BROKE DOWN with the new ASV rt135 on the job!

2022 ж. 30 Жел.
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We broke down with the new ASV rt135 while on the job.
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  • Nice that you, Willie and Josh work so well together. You all could just work together but you are definitely a team! Not only that but you can all laugh about the whole incident. Well done on all levels.

    @eileennacsin4680@eileennacsin4680 Жыл бұрын
  • Your attitude when things go south is an inspiration. Imagine if everyone was this positive about a break down. Gosh. Well done. Awesome content as always. Documenting the good and the bad with a great outlook.

    @RSE328@RSE328 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks so much!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Sorry about the breakdown, I hope you have a hassle free New Year. Keep putting out great content. Always look forward to seeing your videos. Have a great day.

    @FRANKBURNSONE@FRANKBURNSONE Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • It is never fun to have a breakdown but at least you have great people working with you to help fix it. Surprising that ASV has such a vulnerable connection.

    @chargermopar@chargermopar Жыл бұрын
    • Every piece of equipment has vulnerable pieces if you hit them just right. You can't shield everything from every direction. Doing dirt work you could go a million hours and never break that fitting but do forestry work and a branch will find a way.

      @JHruby@JHruby Жыл бұрын
  • You could have cussed and hollered when the line broke but you stopped, assessed the situation and started removing bolts and got the broken line out. You are commended for keeping your cool and getting the job done. Blessings to you all....

    @billroberts3864@billroberts3864 Жыл бұрын
  • Happ New Year John! for you family and work team, Have a blessed year 2023!

    @churchark2953@churchark2953 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Hi Jon, that's bad luck with your breakdown and it's always the hardest to get to. With the terrain you are working I guess this is a common hazard. If I know you Jon, you will be up and running in no time. Keep them coming love em.

    @stevehaines6343@stevehaines6343 Жыл бұрын
  • Well let’s get breakdowns out of the way 2022! The good lord never gives us more than we can handle! He must of thought you had some extra time!

    @robertzapatka1082@robertzapatka1082 Жыл бұрын
  • Wow John, you were quite the trailblazer today. Attack those trees with no mercy. Sorry they fought back, but it could have been worse. Thank you for sharing!

    @leighswogger4272@leighswogger4272 Жыл бұрын
  • Like everyone else I’m really sorry that you had this problem but I do appreciate you showing us how you carried out repairs . Considering you must have been pretty hacked off it was very good of you . I wish you every success for 2023 and plenty of profit .

    @kennethhume8628@kennethhume8628 Жыл бұрын
  • Sorry to hear of your mishap. My friends in the landscaping business who own ASV 135s tell me they have significant undercarriage problems and blame them on the Yanmar buyout. As one says, “It’s no longer American made.” Thank God, he says, he also has a Cat with a Fecon mulcher. Never a problem with that. ASV owes you a free repair. If they had been designed better, Willie wouldn’t be using otherwise valuable time messing around fixing the thing. May you, Josh, Willie and your families have a healthy and Happy New Year. Continued good fortune and may God continue to smile on you. Three more deserving people I cannot think of.

    @edwardgarea7650@edwardgarea7650 Жыл бұрын
  • Merry Christmas and happy new year 🎈

    @geoffreyfox60@geoffreyfox60 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you! Happy New Year!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Best wishes for 2023 and I hope les mishaps and unfortunate challenges in this New Coming Year....Greeting from Harry, Netherlands....

    @kogerlaan@kogerlaan Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you! Me too!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Nice looking little project there,looks great little breakdown end of year what more could you ask for.yea right.2023 will be a great year.made it through 2020,2021,2022.just keep doing what your doing and carry on.great video.on till the next.kudos 😎😎😎👍👍👍🌲🌲🌲🪵🪵🪵

    @tomswindler64@tomswindler64 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! Looking forward to the new year!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Happy New Year to your entire family and workers. Hope you have a very prosperous 2023.

    @wolfpacva@wolfpacva Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Great work. I love your videos. I own 2 gyro tracks, a 25xp and a 13 and an ASV120. Needless to say I've spent many days in the mud working on getting one or another operational. Machines in this line of work will break. The operation is forestry mulching and anything called forestry eats machines. Thanks for the great videos and sharing your knowledge.

    @alohamarta1@alohamarta111 ай бұрын
  • Sorry you had a breakdown. On the bright side you have the team and the skills to get it fixed.

    @joycefuller9177@joycefuller9177 Жыл бұрын
  • Happy New Year to everyone at Upstate Brush Control and all your families.

    @raymondrussell500@raymondrussell500 Жыл бұрын
    • Happy new year!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Very Very impressive! Iv looked at other channels with these machines that don't show half of this equipments capabilities.If your serious about buying this unit watch Upstate Brush Brush Control period!!

    @williamd6967@williamd6967 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Glad to see these videos before I bought an ASV. On paper they look good but engineering like this has me questioning my choices. May stick with a dozer for clearing land

    @scotts6503@scotts65032 ай бұрын
  • lookin' good, HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR, keep safe...

    @bobjoncas2814@bobjoncas2814 Жыл бұрын
  • Sorry about the broken hose. It was interesting that you guys know how this machine is put together. To watch a video of 3 people “ Going ,Huh , Now What ? “ is not worth watching. Can’t wait to see part 2. Be well and be safe going into 2023 !

    @barrymurray8264@barrymurray8264 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for showing a field repair i imagine you don't think about needing a shovel and rake or chainsaw as part of field repair

    @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin7 ай бұрын
  • Hope you guys have a great new year look forward to more of your videos

    @jimmybendfeldt7794@jimmybendfeldt7794 Жыл бұрын
  • Best wishes Happy New Year

    @user-eh7pf3vr7n@user-eh7pf3vr7n Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome people, thank you so much for sharing your experiences,

    @thomaslecour2462@thomaslecour2462 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for watching!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Good job !! Thank you for sharing your experience, and for taking the time to make these videos! We are thinking of buying equipment like yours, to work here in Chile, but we have some doubts. Can you tell us about the fuel consumption per hour? Any idea about the useful life in hours of the undercarriage?

    @rafaeleyzaguirre3718@rafaeleyzaguirre37182 ай бұрын
  • Its alway the smallest jobs that create the most hassle, you would have thought that the designers would have made access to all working parts easy to get to, obviously they have never spoken to an operator or a mechanic. Let's hope that's that 2023 is so much better for you, a Happy New Year to everyone at Upstate and their families and friends.

    @everestyeti@everestyeti Жыл бұрын
  • Making a path through the woods on the way to grandma’s house 🤷🏻‍♂️

    @dixiemae5042@dixiemae5042 Жыл бұрын
  • Perk Test tells you what type of Drain Field you will need... And the size of your Drain Field that is needed for that Ground.

    @MarkORoth-fu2cy@MarkORoth-fu2cy Жыл бұрын
  • Happy New Year John and family and all the Upstate Brush Control team (it's 12.32am on 1 January 2023 here). May your troubles be less than this 'little' incident. What a beauty though.

    @heatherlane9270@heatherlane9270 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! Happy New Year!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • The price one pays for owning a business can be a royal pain in the keester at times. Obviously you & the guys have it under control!

    @detroitnatural9392@detroitnatural9392 Жыл бұрын
  • Wishing you and the team a great 2023 .

    @janecharlton6780@janecharlton6780 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • ANY time you say “this is gonna be a quick fast little job” something is about to ruin your day and possibly the rest of your week.

    @cameronward7137@cameronward7137 Жыл бұрын
    • For sure!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • First from grand junction from a hotel room while it’s snowing outside ☃️

    @dixiemae5042@dixiemae5042 Жыл бұрын
    • I've been there! Stay warm!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • From watching its no surprise this happened 😂👍👍

    @sheepledtotheslaughter4917@sheepledtotheslaughter491711 ай бұрын
  • Been there. Had a skid plate come loose and a stick got in which took off the opposite end of that line. Lucky the near farmer had a portable hose crimper and was able to put a new end on without pulling the track and drivemotor to get the hose out.

    @nathanielroseen5397@nathanielroseen539711 ай бұрын
  • What a fun day you all had!😀

    @terrivandeberg6040@terrivandeberg6040 Жыл бұрын
  • If you have the slack they can cut the broke fitting off and crimp a new one on. I’ve made my share of hydraulic hoses

    @texborn87@texborn87 Жыл бұрын
  • John, I feel your pain on the breakdown. I thought things like that only happened to me in my shop. Oh well, it's off to Cline company for a new hose. Hope you can build and install some type of protector pan in case that happens again. Hang in there and chin up for it could be much worse. Give thanks for Willy and Josh. They are a great help.

    @jamesgantt4369@jamesgantt4369 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for the encouragement! Yes, Cline sees a lot of me! Ha! :)

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • The year is on its back. Prosperity to all. Thanks for all the sharing !!! Would it be cost effective to do the rough work with a dick mulcher. Finishing with a drum. Especially on longer/in distance work. With heavier trees? And yes. I realise equipment costs money. But my take is that the time gained will be advantageous in the long run?

    @antonhuman8446@antonhuman8446 Жыл бұрын
  • Heck of a machine. Love the videos. I’ve had the same thing happen to me working machine in the woods but mine was a rock when it happened. Work at part was having to work in the oil slick but wasn’t to bad. I do favor working on our ASV rt120 over other brands. Much more open for access and love the higher ground clearance so u can crawl under without a jack.

    @AdamSmith-uv6kr@AdamSmith-uv6kr Жыл бұрын
  • Bless your hearts

    @Southernbred52@Southernbred52 Жыл бұрын
  • Man that black hawk head really rips

    @triplesticks@triplesticks Жыл бұрын
  • Happy New Year, Jon and Family and Crew

    @Letsfarm55@Letsfarm55 Жыл бұрын
    • Happy new year!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Breakdowns are unfortunate, but it’s nothing the Upstate pit crew can’t handle! I hope all of y’all had a Merry Christmas and I hope y’all have a Happy New Year! Take care and I’ll see you on the next one. Upstate Brush Control will ride again!!!

    @wendyandjodymaillet7503@wendyandjodymaillet7503 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks! We had a great Christmas! Happy New Year to you!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Those drive hoses should be incased with a steel guard!

    @bobg3034@bobg30348 ай бұрын
  • Takeuchi. Built like a tank!

    @jamiem.6506@jamiem.6506 Жыл бұрын
  • Sorry for your equipment breaking down

    @pattysmith7302@pattysmith7302 Жыл бұрын
  • Happy New Year UBC 🎉🎉🇨🇦

    @gloriafussee3003@gloriafussee3003 Жыл бұрын
    • Happy new year!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • What are the numerical marks for? Och that sucked. Thank you and have a better week.

    @dennis2376@dennis2376 Жыл бұрын
  • Sorry to see the equipment failure but it was interesting to watch the two of you repairing it. Was that the log we saw front and center earlier that was mulched all the way. Oil is bad enough to have to change before climbing in your trucks but ivy..oof. Thanks for another year of great videos.

    @erichwhiteman6373@erichwhiteman6373 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for watching! We appreciate the support!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Indonesia ayo teruslah berkarya dan berprestasi

    @ayampencok4162@ayampencok4162 Жыл бұрын
  • Happy New Year. You were lucky it didn't cause more damage or worse, catch on fire. You all did a good job to get her almost fixed.

    @cyndikarp3368@cyndikarp3368 Жыл бұрын
    • Happy new year!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • John I am surprised this does not happen more. It looks like A bad place for A hydraulic line.

    @Mhurtle65@Mhurtle65 Жыл бұрын
  • How do Josh and Willy like their Rocky boot? I remember in a video a while back you said they were trying them. I love mine, I've been wearing Rocky's for at least 30 years.

    @shaneoates335@shaneoates335 Жыл бұрын
    • I'll have to ask them.

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Being a relatively new to heavy duty mechanics but not being a mechanic I’ve noticed they print these crazy bevels kits on but realistically for what catches the eye but don’t really do a good job of protecting these integral drive lines i mean weather it John cat or kubota or asv I’m surprised they don’t put a steel spring on it or something on these lines to give them a little more dented deterrence I know caterpillar had fixed drive line plates that holds the lines in place and hides the ends of the fittings but this is a common occurance it seems s there trying to think of ways to deter it but don’t have a proper soloution

    @Actionangel@Actionangel7 ай бұрын
    • That's a tough one to figure out, I'm no engineer.

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl5 ай бұрын
  • I wouldn't want a house anywhere near those incessantly barking dogs or the kind of people who have dogs that never freaking shut the hell up.

    @StubbyPhillips@StubbyPhillips Жыл бұрын
    • It really makes you wonder about people who own dogs and just let them bark all day long

      @CrookedlegGreg@CrookedlegGreg4 ай бұрын
    • @@CrookedlegGregI seriously do not understand it. It defies anything remotely resembling logic, reason, common sense or the slightest regard for other people. There is a dog in my neighborhood (on the other side from me thank goodness) that has been barking more or less continuously for about the past four years! You'd think that either the stupid friggin' dog would eventually realize that barking isn't accomplishing anything or that the owner would notice and stop it, but I guess coherent thoughts just completely elude them both.

      @StubbyPhillips@StubbyPhillips4 ай бұрын
  • Happy new yr bro😅

    @samuelkeala7459@samuelkeala7459 Жыл бұрын
  • 3347 is that pipe there to protect the piston rod n seal?

    @organicvids@organicvids8 ай бұрын
  • So they designed this to work in the woods but can’t figure out how to protect the drive lines? Seems like this will be a common occurance.

    @hoytballard5504@hoytballard5504 Жыл бұрын
  • Great videos where do you purchase your equipment Thankyou Dan

    @danfarge7447@danfarge7447 Жыл бұрын
    • We purchase from our ASV dealer out of Waxhaw, NC. Our mulcher heads come from Fecon.

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • You guys do some amazing work! I recently bought a 2022 ASV RT 75HD getting into mulching. Im noticing I have to tighten the tracks almost daily if not the track jumps when I back up. Curious do you guys tighen the track daily?

    @showbiz7753@showbiz7753 Жыл бұрын
    • No, but we do check them regularly.

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • I have a demo showing up on a job next Tuesday....same rig as yours. I'm not too impressed with the debris that build up in the pump box... how do you clean it? Assuming with a pressure washer but looks like will need done often. This is why I'm considering a 150-2

    @MDT-Multidumptrailers@MDT-Multidumptrailers Жыл бұрын
    • How'd the demo go?

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
    • @Upstate Brush Control went good, better than expected, however we know we will need the 150... also looking at some other brands. Wish we had a unit like that 2 years ago, would have saved alot of time.

      @MDT-Multidumptrailers@MDT-Multidumptrailers Жыл бұрын
  • Bad news, it broke. Good news, you guys have mechanical sense. Still aggravating but what you gonna do? Part of it.

    @steverichardson2224@steverichardson2224 Жыл бұрын
  • Whats your take between the 120 and 135?

    @organicvids@organicvids8 ай бұрын
  • It's always something

    @cmyles4522@cmyles4522 Жыл бұрын
    • Sure is!

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Man that sucks! Sorry brother.

    @garybritt1209@garybritt1209 Жыл бұрын
  • I agree gotta go both ways at the start. Lol

    @Michael-fd8ob@Michael-fd8ob Жыл бұрын
  • question, are these fitted with metric or imperial fasteners, I would have thought metric if they want to sell these machines worldwide.

    @mrcamelpmw@mrcamelpmw Жыл бұрын
    • Looks like those bolts have sae grade markings on the head so I’m assuming not metric.

      @chillywilly7454@chillywilly7454 Жыл бұрын
  • What creep mode do you use?

    @lanierwright3179@lanierwright3179 Жыл бұрын
  • Well John, good job on the mulching as usual, but don't get too down about the break down, because 💩 happens and we both know it happens at wrong time and place and I think we can both blame the architect/engineers who designed this flaw to begin with,

    @jamesalinio5277@jamesalinio5277 Жыл бұрын
  • 👍👍👍

    @randybarber5308@randybarber5308 Жыл бұрын
  • It’s always the owner that pays for R&D after it costs you $130k

    @p.b.sHUNTING@p.b.sHUNTING Жыл бұрын
    • Perks of the job.

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • I don’t remember the other skid steer making that high pitch vibrating sound/ whine.

    @nathanscott7910@nathanscott7910 Жыл бұрын
    • It didn't.

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • I’m curious, what made you choose the ASV over others like Cat or Deere. I don’t mean any disrespect, yours is obviously a great machine, I’m just trying to learn more about them all. Thanks for the videos.

    @ErictheAmateur@ErictheAmateur Жыл бұрын
    • ASV are more or less made for Mulching primarily, plus they have the highest HP of them all. As far as I know ASV, Cat, and believe it or not, Kubota are the top 3 for this kind of job. Things like hydraulic coolers and such that are standard on ASV forestry machines are a 5k+ add on for machines like John Deere and they usually sit on top of the cab. Bad thing about ASV is if it breaks down you have to find a way to get it to them because they don’t have service crews that will come out. This is coming from someone who lives in Oklahoma. Idk about other states as far as service goes.

      @rugeryeti460@rugeryeti460 Жыл бұрын
  • Hope you re engineer the covers around those hoses and fittings you know it will happen again Obviously it's a weak spot that should be exposed to anything Certainly a damper on a good days work

    @thatdave86@thatdave86 Жыл бұрын
  • Well John they don't break sitting in the shop do they??!!! But why is it right in the thick of it or on a customers brand new concrete. !!!

    @Andy-ib6xd@Andy-ib6xd Жыл бұрын
  • Is wow that thing sounds like shit, I am a fellow skid Steer mulcher guy, I have a cat 297D And it wouldn't come close to bogging down like that through that type of growth. Thank you so much for the video. No because of it the ASV is not even a option for me. I feel like I owe you guys some money after watching this video.

    @williamguptill8096@williamguptill80968 ай бұрын
  • I dont like the looks of that under carriage! Alot easier to just put a track back on!!

    @GearHardoffRoad@GearHardoffRoad Жыл бұрын
  • Murphy's Law.

    @ronthacker211@ronthacker211 Жыл бұрын
    • Ha! Every time.

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
  • Should have had him dig a trench, so ya could have walked under it to work on it😅

    @58unclesam@58unclesam Жыл бұрын
    • I suggested we dig a pit and pull the machine over it. Jon wasn’t thrilled at the idea!

      @williamwalker6592@williamwalker6592 Жыл бұрын
  • I so want to love ASV’s. But the undercarriages have such a weak set up for mulching!

    @ThrivingEarthFarm@ThrivingEarthFarm Жыл бұрын
  • It never fails…what looks like a relatively easy work day….bam turns into two days of aggravation!! The perils of business!

    @scottlee1211@scottlee1211 Жыл бұрын
  • Sorry yall.. Hope that doesn't happen to our new machine..

    @tiptoplandsolutions1421@tiptoplandsolutions1421 Жыл бұрын
  • Operator error, 💯%.

    @jakezgab8576@jakezgab85769 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for the opinion.

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl9 ай бұрын
  • For a new machine it has too many problems

    @michaelsaint7325@michaelsaint7325Ай бұрын
  • That was painful to watch.

    @Mag_Aoidh@Mag_Aoidh Жыл бұрын
  • Huydrlic hoses on the outside of the frame and let alone on the bottom of the machine, No thanks not for me. My opinion is, it's a very poor design . I just find it amazing that there engineering department can build and design something with this little though. Common sense ASV it's a machine that's suppose to be in the woods and mud all day.

    @anthonycash4609@anthonycash4609 Жыл бұрын
  • ASV suck mine is broke more than it runs

    @standalonelandclearingllc@standalonelandclearingllc10 ай бұрын
  • What a shitty spot for those hoses. They are almost dragging the ground by the track?? They make no sense

    @hellofreeman6653@hellofreeman66534 ай бұрын
  • A Danger Terrain have much slope and hole. A good Machine, but in real facts, the to underpin, the Hydraulic and the Cable have to little mudguard. A Workday wath not good! (💩) Nevertheless greeting and a Happy New Year 2023.. 🍀🍄🐖🐞🎉🍀

    @doritleis2773@doritleis2773 Жыл бұрын
    • Poor machine. You ever used one?

      @Wanous-hv7zo@Wanous-hv7zo Жыл бұрын
    • @@Wanous-hv7zo No. But I love this category from Forestry

      @doritleis2773@doritleis2773 Жыл бұрын
  • No, it’s the worst

    @richscott2952@richscott295210 ай бұрын
  • The more I see of them, I’m glad I didn’t go with the ASV.

    @Mcss-lu5hv@Mcss-lu5hv Жыл бұрын
  • Dude I went to the local spot in Houston to price this unit they quoted me $149,000 without the mulcher then another 50 grand for the mulcher. WTF? So my plan B is to go by a Kioti 7320 with the closed cab, crank up the hydraulic pressure and let it rip. It's not necessary to have a zero turn capacity, and I can do other things with the tractor. What they are trying to change me in Houston is insane as far as I am concerned. The Kioti has skid mount attachments. I my view I can do the same thing for half the price that ASV is charging.

    @andrewells7441@andrewells7441 Жыл бұрын
  • Way to GO you all

    @billfeldman3234@billfeldman3234 Жыл бұрын
  • I rented a asv for some dirt work what a poor machine my bobcat T870 will out work hands down and the asv has more power but it sure doesn’t perform. Poor design that can’t happen on a bobcat they are not exposed like that

    @Wanous-hv7zo@Wanous-hv7zo Жыл бұрын
  • Great video fellas. You must be paying your guys well cause I saw the waist band of Willy’s underwear said adidas. I can only afford ftl or Hanes for my boys.

    @TheEggeee2@TheEggeee2 Жыл бұрын
    • My boys have greasy hands. So I’m guessing they don’t use the fly as intended and use the waistband ,thus the grease. This is why I keep packages for each in the laundry room and if one is nasty it gets thrown out and a new pair enters the cycle. Mom work.

      @TheEggeee2@TheEggeee2 Жыл бұрын
  • Ooooo crappp

    @samuelkeala7459@samuelkeala7459 Жыл бұрын
    • Pretty much.

      @UpstateBrushControl@UpstateBrushControl Жыл бұрын
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