The MONSTER That Never Left the Forest ▶ The History of the Mark V Truck
The GIANT That Never Left the Forest ▶ The Story of Butler Brothers Mark V
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Within the heavy transport industry, the forestry sector has always been a highly challenging environment, even for today's mechanical giants. The complexity of its logistics, combined with the harsh conditions of the forests, has made it one of the most demanding settings for man-made machines. Nevertheless, several adventurers have sought to build a worthy rival in the form of a truck for this task. Stay with us and learn about the history of Butler logging trucks.
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Timeline
00:00 Intro
01:39 The Canadian Forest Monster
02:42 Butler 36
04:05 Butler 70
05:17 Butler Mark 5
06:34 Outcome
08:02 Outro
Hi. I have never seen the Butler Brothers trucks. However I met one of the fellows that drove the last one We became very close friends over the years. Sadly he passed away a few yrs ago. He had some awesome pictures of those days at Butler and we talked about him taking me to see what was left of them. Sadly it didn’t happen. Thanks for the excellent video. 👍
Thank you for sharing your story and connection with Butler Brothers trucks. It's sad to hear about the loss of your friend. We're glad to know our video brought back good memories for you. We appreciate your support and hope our future videos will also be meaningful to you! 👍
I remember those trucks. Mark V was stupidly huge. It moved an awful lot of wood at once. There were several other companies in the area that developed some of the best logging machines in the world. The Butler company still remains active.
I downloaded this truck as a mod for snowrunner yesterday and had no idea what it actually is. Thank god for the weird convenience of the youtube algorithm.
Thrilled that the KZhead algorithm has such great taste! Hope you enjoy the video as much as I enjoy creating it. Thanks for landing here! 😆
What?!…..Can you tell me what the mod is called, please?
@@COD4JESSEZ2 Log Servant Mk.V by zxp990
@@COD4JESSEi think it’s Z2 log servant mk. v
Currently one frame of this truck sits on the property of recently passed logging company owner Andy Byrne, in Stillwater, British Columbia; in a much worse state than the last few images in the video suggest. I heard the remaining frames of the truck will be given/sold to a local organization which preserves local history, and it's up to the family of Byrne. If you look hard enough and use photos of this thing that remain, you can actually figure out where it currently sits on the property. (Took a while, but me and a friend managed to track it down)
It's fascinating to hear about the current whereabouts of the truck and the efforts to track it down. It would be amazing if you could share recent photos of its current state. The story behind its current location and the potential for preservation by a local organization adds even more interest to its legacy. Thank you for sharing this valuable information and for your dedication in following the story of this truck!
Would that be Stillwater Powell River?
@@timwilliams2035 Yea, we believe so.
@@momyour5490 I live in Powell River and had know idea despite loving logging history and all the machines that go with it. Very interesting indeed
Give the info to @heavydsparks he could do some amazing things with it
The Butler trucks were around for a few years, here on Vancouver Island, but they had problems. Like being very difficult to get turned around on small landings in mountain country. They also didn't track very well and ended up off the road more than once. The big Hayes HDX and Pacific's had been developed years before, and sold a lot of units before these showed up. They could turn around in the woods easily, could carry their trailer and packed a similar load. They also could and did pull multiple trailers. More important they could be rebuilt many times. They stopped building them several decades ago, but there still quite a few in use today in BC and Alaska. Lots of very recent video if you look up Logging on Vancouver Island.
I remember reading about this truck in the publication BC Logging and it was a monster at the time and was supposed to take over heavy haul in the forest. Very interesting to see it again.
The air ride cab was interesting, I couldn’t imagine sitting right beside it a 16 cylinder Detroit diesel screaming for 12 hours. Bet it was a truck you would never forget driving. Would be great to hear from someone who drove this rig?
Yeah that was weird. Modern trucks the bags and shocks are at the back of the cab and it is hinged on the front
I had a client who drove one briefly. I don't know which model. He told me the handling on the sidehill scared him shitless.
Thanks for preserving this history. I doubt any of these will ever be restored… but this can live forever
He didn't preserve it. He stole it and dumped his ugly watermarks all over it.
Andy told me he wanted it to go to the BC Forestry museum in Duncan. I was running Brad Greens lowbed at the time. Andy and I went out and looked at it and measured it up, but nothing ever happened. Carrie Miller told me that the driver got tired of waiting one time and hooked up two trailers behind it and pulled it all the way down to the log sort. So that would have to be like 300 tons payload.
This might have been the best video you guys have produced yet. Absolutely awesome find.
You should hook up deBoss Garage with getting that Mk.5 running. He's just awesome at old Detroit's. Or Hamiltonville Farms, another great talent in the KZhead world of massive machinery that needs getting running and moving under it's own power.
something that huge is a job for HeavyDsparks..he'd probably get it running and drive it out of there!
@@tech4pros1We said fix it not ruin it 😂😂
Beautiful piece of mechanical design and engineering. Belongs in a museum. In its current condition or, better yet, restored.
You should do a video about Edison Motors logging truck.
I just looked those up, they look like a really sick truck.
Now that is what I call a truck!!!! Ideal for the shopping run or taking the kids to school!
I loaded fat trucks Hayes, kenworth pacific,lots of them packed 100 tons plus,😃,on the west side of Vancouver island,from 1979 till now.
Can you tell me about LOADING them. I am so, so interested in the HEALING BOOM log loaders of the time. If you could just explain the control pattern of the machine, and what were the company names. Just fascinating about cab layout and control levers, to operate them. I'm a nerd who likes how the operators pulled levers. 😊😊
Mack CL350 and LRSW competed too.
Now she's a relic. A monument for the heavyweight industry.
Did they have to be "tires literally larger than the previous model"? 'Larger tires' weren't enough, eh'? They just had to me "literally larger." I'm glad to know that the tires on the newer model weren't simply 'figuratively larger' tires. I'd have a difficult time imagining that.
I think these videos are made by a ten year old.
it was made by less than a 2 year old, aka chatGPT@@ShEdward876
The narrator only knows one thing: getting paid by the word.
The epitome of HD trucks the Pacific P-16 is a majestic beast.
Never seen one till now. Quite the suspension for the cab of this truck. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks to you for watching and commenting!
I like the forestry trucks.
I see you have used some of my photos here, yes sadly there is no much recorded history but there are still some of us that remember working around this truck.
We're happy to contribute to preserving the history of this truck. We appreciate those like you who remember and share their experiences with these incredible machines. Your perspective enriches the collective memory. Thank you for your comment!
I would love to see Edison motors, make something out of the butler mark five
Would be great to see these brought back to life with a diesel-electric conversion by Edison Motors.
that would be very interesting to see. the Butler Mk5 restored with a diesel-electric drivetrain! with electric motors on all axles including the trailer. would give unparalelled offroad ability! would need a pretty big genset (a v12 MTU marine unit or similar)
The problem is they weren't very good. The regular trucks could carry as much wood and were more versatile and a Hell of a lot easier to drive.
That needs to be restored.
A neat part of trucking history.
Very creative man
Pretty darned amazing story and some incredible aspirations and achievements, it to bad but like so many other great ideas the timing just wasnt right!
The Americans and Canadians have always known how to build trucks that will last for decades and work for decades 🎉🎉
Itd be really cool to see one up and running for demonstration purposes, those were really awesome looking trucks, i like the pacific and hayes trucks that were used in Canadian logging absolute powerhouses
Now I know a little bit more history about the family names. I drive up Oldfield rd past the Butler cement yard. In Keating Industrial area.
About 20 years ago I came across a fellow by the name of Don Calder from Cobble Hill BC. . He had pictures of him driving the latest big logging truck. He also mentioned it was powered by a 16V71 detroit. He also said that the drivers of the monsters only where paid a little bit more than a normal logging truck. Don finally went back to the smaller rigs because it was hard on the nerves.
Impressive the loads they are carrying
Literally overusing literally 😂
It's also tragic how much the script writer likes the word tragic... while not quite understanding what it means.
@@athompso99 You could almost say it was literally tragic.
I have been a truck nut all my life and had never seen or heard of this unique truck. Interesting.
Packed the record loads over the dump at Macmillan Bloedel's Menzies Bay Division. A great mainline machine but it's greatest fault was it's length..it was just too long to turn easily on spur roads. Drivers would comment on how strange it was in cab hanging out in air going around switchbacks. I have often wondered how she would have done with regular traditional design from cab and steering axles back. Thank you for video
Heavy D needs this
It looks like something you would expect to see parading through Red Square with giant nuclear missiles on the back.
😅🤣
There was a bicycle manufacturer called Claude Butler, is it the same chap?
Would be cool if the Snowrunner crew could save this Butler Mark 5 truck, and make a simulation loggingtruck @SaberGames
It's already a mod on it
That’s interesting❤
Snowrunner please🙏🏻
There's a mod already for it.
Wow! That's cool. Back in late 70's and early 80's, I worked at Pacific Truck and Trailer. P16 and P12's were popular for logging.
It's kind of ironic that the forest is now devoring the truck that once devoured it.
I remember the 1970s in British Columbia when we were the world's lumber yard and for a short time Macmillan Bloedel was larger than weyerhauser (which is probably why weyerhauser purchased the company and promptly shut most of it down)
Интересно.
my recently diseased buddys dad worked on building the original prototype and my buddy Henry at 16 was one of the test drivers, later his dad lost most of his companies and money.... and so did hank die drunk and pennyless. he told me tons of storries from the bush and heavyhauling misadventures from around western canada.
EDISON MOTORS! This truck needs your help!!!!!
Butler didn't play by the man's rules. Reminds me of Preston Tucker.
When he said "initiative" to restore it, he meant "money"
Looks similar to russian ballistic missle launchers
Talk about a behemoth!
The tag on my drop top Cadillac is Mark V... Funny because I've been in the tree industry for over 20 years...
👍👍👍
@HeavyDSparks needs to rescue this beast
@kenwhiteconstruction
The car is still around.
The next generation of Logging trucks are being built by edison motors right now
I also read in a logging magazine that they were experimenting with a gas turbine engine, I believe it was in the Mark 5. I guess it used too much fuel. I often wondered what happened to them. Awhile ago I searched for them on y tube but turned up very little. Thanks for this.
What’s funny is that nowadays I’ve worked on a few butler trucks but there now twin steer western concrete trucks have only ever seen a few dump trucks owned by them never any logging trucks
They should’ve preserved it.
literally
Edison motors diesel hybrid will be a game changer.
Call me hater but dude has worn out his welcome in my feed with the always promising videos but yet to deliver anything.. Any old knob can stand by a half built truck and talk about all the modern stuff they dislike. Time for him to put up or shut up.
I want this in Snowrunner
Someone already has, I think it's called log servant
@@builttobeat2741 your right, thank you
Man i jist cant belive these things are just sitting there. Cost so much money and just left a 16 cylinder 2 smoker back to the earth
If it hasn't been scrapped and the V-16 sunk, it'll run. You can't kill a bus motor.
Didnt know they existed . I did see a couple challengers last yr. Sad to see manufacturers shutdown or leave B.C.
Start voting conservative and then things will turn around. Liberal politics is so hard on industry it takes all the money out of it, and if there's no money in if there's no business.
@@robbalinski1606 In B.C. it's more the provincial gov't that's the issue.
Mechanical Cryptid
HeavyDSparks
Sad story.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I hope you still enjoyed the video.
@@GearTechHD A lot! Sad is no one bring back to life and it will be lost in woods forever. Its a history which should-must be saved.
Add it to SnowRunner
Where is the mark 5 located??
They mentioned Sooke BC. So Vancouver Island might narrow your search down a bit.
Powell river BC behind Andy Burns old shop
Enjoyed your video. Been in Sooke for 25 years now. Butler Bros. own concrete company's now and built a higher end sub division just down the road from me. I have been in that Spirit tear drop car with its rear engine V8...noisy as hell! 😊
I grew up in Sooke BC and remember seeing some of those trucks as a kid. My dad did work for Butler Brothers at one point in his long logging career. Great video!!
That's so cool to have such a personal connection to the story! It must bring back memories. Thanks for sharing, and glad you enjoyed the video!
How sad..
Очень интересный канал. Жаль что нету русских субтитров.
открой в яндекс браузере - он тебе и озвучит на русском. Да в принципе и так все понятно.
6:17 ?? What is that next to the truck ??
It's a Log Stacker, used to unload logging trucks quickly, but I'm not sure about the exact model.
I feel like it not being road legal didn't help it any
Now that all Pacific and Hayes are gone, is the reason because logs aren’t as big anymore and heavy spec road tractors are good enough?
причина в том что негабаритная техника очень ограниченна в применении. На таких монстрах из леса нельзя выехать, да и не нужны уже монструозные 40 литровые моторы чтобы тягать 100 тонн - достаточно взять обычные дорожные кенворты, и с прицепами он спокойно утащит те же 100 тонн просто на двойном полуприцепе, но он сможет спокойно выехать на дороги общего пользования и отвезти на лесопилку, которую необязательно строить в лесу. Плюс машины хоть и специализированные но все же серийные и запчасти у них серийные. В общем так проще. И дороги в лесу нужны уже.
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Does anyone from British Columbia know if the Butler Mark 5 is still resting where it is?
The Forest Mu_d_rer
We sure have had a lot of ingenious ways of moving west coast wood. What a shame to see one returning to the earth.
tHE MONSTER , THAT DESTROYED THE FORESTS ,
It so sad she's sitting the woods
This is what started global warming cutting all the tree's down for whatever they needed them for.blame these kind of people for global warming amen
We carry 100 ton every day here in northern Michigan. Still holding it down
It's going to sit there and rot. Nobody's going to put hundreds of thousands of dollars into it.
Sad
Restore it? It's a pile of scrap metal, sadly.
what a terrible, terrible script. ugh.
Shushers
@@minisatan8353 shushet thy speaking hole
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Stop saying "literally". Every time you used that word, you used it incorrectly. It makes your narration sound childish and unintelligent.
Subject material was great but... The narration was awful, "literally" awful
Ohhhhh! Now it makes sense!! A log truck.😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏🪬🪬🪬💎💎💯💯💯🇬🇧🇬🇧