Finally taking a look at my votes for the best FPS mice going into 2023. Its annoying to withhold the list until you watch so we're looking at the Lamzu Atlantis, Finalmouse Tenz, the MZ1 Wireless from Xtrfy, Razer Death Adder v3 & Viper v2 Pro, X2 from Pulsar, and the HSK Plus from G-Wolves. We'll also hear from your favorite (shocking) mouse reviewer.
✅BOARDZY - / boardzy
✅PATTYCAKES - @PattycakesGaming
✅Shown in today's video:
Razer Viper V2 Pro - geni.us/q3Muo
Razer Deathadder V3 Pro - geni.us/qFZVKHi
Finalmouse Starlight - finalmouse.com
Xtrfy MZ1 Wireless - geni.us/92T3DL7
Pulsar X2 - geni.us/zOAfBc
G-Wolves HS-K Plus - geni.us/h2rcBg
Emberedge KX100 Pad - t.co/pThr5QD49X
LGG Saturn Pro Pad - lethalgaminggear.com/collecti... - code 'BadSeedTech' gets 5% off your order
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Chapters:
Intro - 00:00 - 00:20
Lamzu Atlantis - 00:21 - 02:02
Finalmouse Tenz - 02:03 - 03:38
Pads - 03:39 - 04:22
Razer Viper & DAV3 4K - 04:23 - 06:49
X2 BRUCE - 06:50 - 08:33
G-Wolves - 08:34 - 10:14
Xtrfy MZ1 - 10:15 - 12:27
2023 Thoughts - 12:28 - 14:07
truly shocking stuff
TRULY. Now can you please tell your fans to stop unsubbing for ripping you off lmao
@@badseedtech I knew exactly who it was lmao
I'm unfortunately a final mouse fan boy I've coped everything since the Starlight phantom now we wait for the last legend
Haha loves it (shocking)
Boardzy's vids are boring and depressing. Badseed all day.
Super cool, glad you're liking the MZ1! And congrats on 350k! Well deserved 💯 Video quality out of this world, as always
Rjn
Thanks brother, we should catch up soon!
RJN when covered shell? Don’t really like having dust and dirt being collected in my mouse
@@cadmusvictory4956 air duster sprays my brother! :)
The goat himself. Check out that Pattycakes mouse pad will ya.
Great video and mouse recommendations. The production level on your videos is absolutely insane! 🔥 looking forward to more of your 2023 reviews
Banger of a video, BST! I love the fast paced format you used here, per usual. Waiting for your review of the Atlantis mini and XM2we!
Thanks for the shoutout! This video was great, it's crazy how good mice have become over the past few years. So many banger options these days
What a great shoutout, didn't expect two different sides of my KZhead subscriptions to overlap here :P
Big fan of yours from your D2 content, glad to see you’re getting into the mouse space!!
@@Matt-pl7br thanks! I've been a huge gaming peripherals fan for so many years, it's so fun getting into the space on the business side
You are making waves. First I heard S&C talk collab and now to Badseed.
Pattycakes! Your content is great with Destiny, but I think you have even more potential covering more competitive games.
Damn, nice to hear that the MZ1 is so liked! I'm using the Model I at the moment, but have definitely eyeballed the MZ1 in the past few months.
This is the most underrated tech channel I've ever seen on YT. Very simple explanation without too much unnecessary information that makes the video longer with no benefit you just go straight to the point with high quality video and editing. I wish you the best of luck.
He seems lost in most of his videos, where you can clearly tell he is out of his depth and trying to be a sell-out which made me cringe really hard.
@@basicallytroll2705maybe you’re the one out of your depth
Appreciate all the commentary at the end on what's coming up, thanks for that.
Love the video! You slipped the "stay up" in at the very last second. I almost thought I could finally rest. Heads up, the Pattycakes link in the description links me to a "404 Not Found" error. Checking out the mousepad now via the google machine tho!
Glad whenever you release your preferences. As a fellow Tall (6'4") man with a huge head (The largest hat size at Grassroots California doesnt fit my head), your comfort recommendations usually ring true to me. Thanks for your work.
Hey man, I love your reviews as always, the production quality will never cease to amaze me, but is there just no love for heavy mice in the market? I've always been able to land more precise hits with all the weights in my old old g502 than the new lighter stuff, and I just can't seem to get over this hill. Anyways, I really appreciate you mentioning that all the mice in the vid are going to be light at the start so I didn't have my expectations high.
Love the aesthetics of your workspace, audiovisual quality is top-notch!
Love having @boardzy! Need more of this kinda stuff
oddly enough the mz1 is my main. I spent a lot of time going through mice to find the right one as my hand is some what gimped from a dog bite. Got this on a whim even though it didn't look like it would actually work and since nothing else felt good and so glad I did.
the best year in review video fr. so much attention to detail and i love the boardzy ft. can’t wait to see what you drop in 2023.
Yo thanks so much fr
Awesome review, thanks man! I will probably pick DAv3 over Viper though, personally cannot stand the symmetrical design on something I need to use over long hours.
super excited for your videos this year badseed!
Dope video! I'm def taking a closer look at the Atlantis and MZ1. Any chance a review of the MSI Clutch GM51 is on the horizon?
I knew something was up by that title hell yeah i love both of yalls content great vid
I'm starting to love the clutch aspect of my razor mouse, even though I've had it for a few years and didn't know about it. Now I want to find a mouse that maybe has more buttons on it, particularly one with a well placed button that allows me to engage clutch without taking away from my ability to use the mouse. I have the wireless Death Adder right now and the only button that makes sense for clutch is the bottom side button, but engaging it slightly compromises my grip of the mouse and ability to use it.
Love the circle ⭕️ edit in 😂😂 Great vid as usual
@BadSeed Tech Love your videos! I've been watching for 4 years at this point. I wanted to know your thoughts on Glorious. I have a wireless model D with the ceramic feet on their standard desk sized mouse pad. Always loved it and considered myself having pretty high-level aim. I have a similar hand size and was wondering what you think about the model d wireless with those feet compared to some of the options on this list. Hope to hear from you!
took a couple of hours to get used to the MZ1 but after that, my aiming felt so effortless. The single worst mouse I've used, in terms of performance is the superlight. I used to play with the model o minus but chose to pick up the Superlight, which I found to be absolutely massive. I found that with a smaller mouse, I grip further back allowing me to aim with just my fingers for micro-adjustments, rather than my whole hand at once. I'd highly recommend people try a small mouse.
what small mouse you recommend or use daily? I'm looking at buying the Razer Viper Mini v2
Amazing content as always BadSeed ! Can I ask you if it's safe to wash the saturn mousepad? I'm using it too ( the first version )
Great upload as alwyas. so high quality.
Damn boi! This review is THICC BOI! 😲 It's insane how dense and concise the content on your videos can be at such a high production level.
Hell yeah, HSK+/Pro is such a cool mouse, MZ1 still seems slept on, AWESOME vid as always.
Hey Brian, great content. Off topic question seeing that you are also using Zen-dac what sound quality do you set in Windows? I'm on 32 bit 96kHz btw. I know it's probably overkill. Just curious.
Absolutely loved the MZ1's shape and overall feel but had to get it replaced within 2 months due to a defective left click and subsequently a refund after the replacement showed the same problems after 4 days of use. Super unfortunate that I couldn't keep using it. Edit for clarity: The issue I had could be loosely described as double clicking. When I held the mouse button down, I could slightly reduce the pressure I was applying and it would sometimes input another 7-8 times. This was easily reproduceable at 12ms debounce
Question arise the, Is it a shell problem or a switch problem?
You can configure the debounce time of the mouse which can solve that problem. Should be described in the manual if you care to try again
@@papayaaa6033 As stated in my original comment, this was easily reproduceable at 12 ms debounce (the maximum for the mouse) which is pretty bad Edit: I've already severed the battery on my product and received a refund so I wouldn't be able to try anything new with it if I wanted to. I'll probably still give it another shot once I get more disposable income since it was by far my favorite mouse in terms of overall feel.
Thanks for awesome vid! Do check out 36gm gwolves htx - a similar shape to starlight s. Waiting for mainstream reviews before buying it!
Really hope Xtrfy release an updated version of mz1w, with some latest tech applied on like 4k polling and newer sensor/motion sync . Especially the 4k. I'm rly addicted to it even for fact that it only make me "feel" better but not necessarily "play" better. That will be an insta buy for me.
This!
Hi Philip the beard god, what tips are you using on the blessing 2 dusk? Also, unshockingly amazing video as always
Mouse innovations have come a long way the past couple of years, the gliders around the sensors and the wireless with close to no input are 2 upgrades I would like to make. Are there multiple versions of the new death adder or is plastic without rubber grip the only option for the latest release?
It comes with extra rubber grips if you want to add them
Am so hype to grab one of these. I'm on a G305 and my hand just cramps up after long sessions. I haven't played on something as big as a DAV3 in a long time, so I'm not sure If I'm gonna go with that, or the Viper V2.
Just got my Aerox 5 Wireless. I need the additional button for my FF14 grind and the honeycomb style really helps since I tend to sweat a lot when gripping my mouse due to the fact that I live in Asia. I got 2 Ace as well in Valorant.
Hi ! Thank you for this great video ! Any insider info about any mmo gaming mouse in the horizon ? As a very casual fps player, going for any of those mices would be a downgrade for my needs. But i like the wireless, weight, etc, options those mices provide. Aerox 9 got my attention, but i did not go for it (yet?) because i would like a white option.
I have the Lamzu Atantis & the mini I also own the Finalmouse and i have to say the Lamzu Atlantis is my #1 gaming mice it just ticks all the boxes and the shape is incredible for claw!
MZ1W is soooo underrated. Such a bloody good mouse, love the video!
I'm new here and really like the content/ review... But I have mention how amazing my man's beard is! It's like the front of a locomotive
thanks for the review! first i read the tittle i thought boardzy having beard lmao,
The Viper V2 Pro is pretty much my dream mouse, objectively great specs and subjectively great shape, super happy with it. Still would like to try a good mouse with an adjustable sensor some day, but other than that I welcome a break from The Search™ in regarding this particular peripheral. ✌
Do you own it? The shape is not the best tbh, I have a dav3 and i think I would like a mini version of the shape.
@@zappyFPS i own the Viper V2 PRO and it fits my hand perfect the side buttons are not great i think they are small but other than that its a good mouse
Viper v2 pro is the most best sensor as far as I know I might be wrong, too. Just the shape is not for everyone.
Its a good mouse but it feels like sandpaper
The shape sucks tbh. Regretting the purchase, wish I just got the DAV3
these are all bangers. having just started using the wired MZ1, i can definitely say my next mouse purchase is going to be the wireless one
I bought a Glorious Model O because of you. Sent it back and get the O- because the O was larger then I was used to. The O- has been my main for years
at 6:28 .. Ohhh hell ya I could tell right away! 144hz coming from 60z was like stepping into the game in terms of smootheness.
My starlight 12 the last legend is getting shipped right now. Love the vids
I was going to buy a finalmouse last legend medium but after hearing about all of the qc issues I instead went with a Deathadder v3 pro and I'm so happy I did. Since I'm canadian the finalmouse would've ended up costing around $300, for that price the mouse should be beyond perfect so I didn't want to take that chance.
High IQ move
imagine me that for the SL12 Tenz after paying 70 euros for customs in Italy I had to send it back to America for repair (double click) and pay another 15 euros for customs :D
@@97andreaas yeah that is exactly what I was worried about
@@97andreaas I live in Iceland and got a Starlight which I had to send in for a repair. Now 6 months later it has 2 new issues (auto scrolls randomly and sometimes loses signal), hate myself for ignoring comments about qc issues
@@hreidargar663 try to update the firmware at the new version on the site for someone fixed the problem with the scroll wheel
ive used many of these... v2 pro, dav3 and others that arent in the list like outset ax, np01 and finally the gpx and i always find myself going back to the gpx i palm grip and i yet still couldnt get used to the dav3. gpx is just top of the line
would be nice if you compared top mouses from like 5 and 10 years ago to see if there is any actual gaming difference as I feel like it became more of a spec sheet game nowadays.
Exactly what I think. Any of the top tier ones feel identical outside of the shape and buttons. It's really more about a design preference than difference in performance.
Very solid releases lately, I own every mouse on this list (Except DAV3) and love using each one. I think the MZ1 wireless is slept on a ton and is one of those mice it does take time to get used to, I love the unique shape of it. Great review as always B, cant wait to see what comes in 2023 for periperhals and your content.
Which is the best ?
Any new favourites? The mouse scene has been flooded yet again with solid releases this year.
i recently went on boardzy's channel after not following mice for a while. idk if his titles are like that as a joke but yours is really funny. thank you for the laugh seedman
I was just curious, what monitor are u playing on? The one shown in the clips Thx
Yup I knew it such an amazing smooth video brain well done king
LGG Saturn hasn't left my desk since I bought it either and I used to swap pads near daily. Loved it with glass skates on the xm1r and loving it still with the lamzu and stock skates
the regular Saturn or Saturn pro?
im really hyped for 2023, but couldnt care less because the lamzu atlantis just did it for me this year. its the first mouse since the sensei i grabbed a second copy of because i liked it so much and lo and behold, they are super similar im shape. i might get a xm2w when it releases in 2024 though.
I think we can safely say there’s little to no gain in jumping mice if you like the shape. We had a mini boom where everyone pretended to invent the wheel but now we are set.
Been looking for a new wireless mouse that's fully ambi (right side buttons) that's actually in stock and available. Market has been pretty dang dry since the Razer Viper Ultimate. Looks like I'll be waiting another year, oh well! Shoutout to Pwnage for their attempt with the Ultra Custom Ambi one.
Any plans to check out the XM2we? Got mine on saturday and love everything about it! Feels even more solid than the GPX did back when it launched.
Exciting list, can't wait to see what else 2023 has in store!
I have been using the Zowie EC2(medium) for so long..I've tried numerous ones but this one is the GOAT
No gpro ultralight? Anyhow, loving the content
idk man... hsk+ 4k/hsk pro 4k are insane. I had to switch to the hsk+ cause the pro is way too small for my hand, but plus feels great....might have to pick up the tenz tho, its pretty
I am currently using viper mini. my hands are 18x8. which one should i choose for finger and relax claw? OG or Mini...
Love the Pattycakes shout out. Can’t wait for that pad.
Agreed, I'm a former semi pro Overwatch player now going pro in Naraka, and the viper v2/death adder are fantastic. DO NOT SLEEP ON OPTICAL MOUSE SWITCHES.
Any recommendations for a wireless equivalent of the Viper Mini? I’ve been through 3 of them now, I keep killing the scroll wheel click, and would like to switch to wireless instead of buying another wired model. I have relatively small hands so the Mini fits me perfect.
Great video as always
hmmm, I really liked the Steelseries Prime Mini. Surprised how it didn't make the list. My next choice of mouse would be DeathAdder v3 Pro, dying to try it out
I would love to see a review of the new “Pwnage Magnum Opus Stormbreaker” gaming mouse
Hey man, I'm planning to get either GPX Superlight or Pulsar X2. But I saw lot issues on X2. Should I go for GPX instead?
Thanks for helping me spend some money ! Can't wait to pick up a lot of these new mice.
I like the steel series 650 wireless personally, always been my favourite!
Hey Brian, Do you know if the Last Legend will come with the infinity skins?
they def gotta do something about the coating on the mz1, I had the same experience great mouse for aiming but the top of the mouse gets more slippy with some time on the mouse. grips would be nice. Great mouse tho couldn't recommend enough if it fits your hands
Kinda funny the EGG XM2W that went in preorder in February 2022 didn’t even launch in time to get reviewed in 2022. Just a huge misstep from them. XM2we is out in the wild tho - hope you get to review it!
@badseedtech What's the wrist wrest you're using on the asus azoth? BTW love you content!
Would be awesone to see XTRFY beef up the MZ1 with a 3395 sensor and nordic MCU for 2023 :)
I see you have the belafonte key cap set. I grabbed the whole dang set myself!
i just got the Asus PG27AQM monitor, do you have any color settings and settings i could turn on to get the best and full experience?
on mouse, ripple check on or off? I use 800 dpi, in games 1600 dpi (valorant), I would appreciate your answer ^^
Love my MZ1 fitted the XTRFY skins and Glass skates. Would not swap it for any other mouse
So I just bought a new PC, I haven’t been gaming since 2016 and my favorite mice back then were Zowie EC1 and Razor deathadder. I have quite small hands, what would you recommend for me?
What grip do you use with the mz1? I'm assuming fingertip and RJN uses a flat fingertip grip I've never seen in his video when he uses it
1 used the glorious model O for over a year and I liked it a lot I dropped it and it broke. I'm looking for a similar mouse that's "better" any recommendations or do I just go with another model o cuz I really didn't have any issues. I just wanna know if spending money on a 2 year old mouse is worth it or if there is new that's better
Love my MZ1. In my experience, Xtrfy customer service is top notch. I would love to try a Finalmouse but they’re always sold out before I even know they’re available haha, guess I don’t need one that bad 😜
I still have 2 medium sized brand new in box and sealed of the Starlight Pro - The Last legend and a Starlight Pro - TenZ Finalmouse. Lemme know if you're interested in one of them, I'm not like a reseller or anything, they just happened to completely lose my order two times in a row so I ended up finally getting my TenZ, and then a guaranteed spot to buy the Last Legend so I received that one last month but I have still been using my Finalmouse - Ninja Air58 and haven't even touched the 2 brand new Finalmouse models haha. (Long story short, you're welcome to one for around the same price as I paid for them, shipping is included if you're in the US. As I don't think I could sleep at night scalping people for an absurd amount of money) But just lemme know sooner than later as I've had a few people ask about them.
The beard is so crispy I love it
what do u think of the ninjutso sora?
wp on that Circle reference lmao
my red x2 started double clicking 2 months in x.x... its great to see pulsar move to opticals but sad to see we were just a beta test on their way there.
Yo would love to have seen you talk about DPI deviation in this video, its something not mentioned a lot and needs to be talked about. The last 2 mouses you mention are some of the few that don't suffer from this problem. Great video tho and I think Logitech is the Toyota of gaming, they'll get there after 10 years of the same thing
Super shocked! Out of all releases, MZ1 is still the fingertip king and my favorite weird mouse. Can't wait what's in for 2023. The odin hyper nova (am I correct?) is really hyping things up!
quick note on the LGG Saturn, I don't have the pro so it may be different, but to me the Saturn feels like a carbon copy of my g sr se deep blue. so if you dont like that pad don't buy it but if youre one of the many people disappointed by the new rouge the Saturn would make a good replacement for it imo.
ive been using the Bruce Lee x2 for about a week now, and i can say for my hands i play worse with it vs the Atlantis or the Dav3 for some reason, maybe its the flate sides. Im just not as consistent gripping the x2
I've been rocking the Glorious Model O Wireless for about 7 months and it's been incredible. Great battery life, weighs next to nothing and latency so low it's negliable.
What sensitivity do you find is the best for cod?
I have used the Pulsar X2 with the superglides and it is fantastic.
What a good review for me it's about performance I don't mind shape but features are also important. I have been enjoying my Naga pro V1 for the last 2years yeah it's heavy.but you add lexip ceramic feet and it's not so bad at all. I'm a button guy, I'd like a lightweight button mania, high performance mouse yet razer just won't do it and it shows with the naga pro V2 they just make a v1 with barely any new features or updates I'm quiet really irritated at that. They could've added 8k put the weight down, with lighter plastics, even give it glass skates....really upset at how they went about it.
I´m on the Bruce Lee x2 Medium and a Tenz Small as well as an HSK + depending on the day i have. I love the Xtrfy MZ1 but i just have my fingers in a different position and the holes are to annoying for me. Can´t wait for the next finalmouse at 29 grams (if i can get my hands on one. Or the new x2 with a little more hump. Very exiting times for an adicct like me.
I dont think i fully realized how impressive the starlight mice were in terms of weight until the only thing close is basically half a mouse from g wolves
I have the pulsar xlite v2 and the deathadder V3 pro, and i can't tell how perfect is the DAV3 for me
Hay badseed, you make youtube a better place! Thanks the reviews