YouTuber vs Real Carpenter | Deck Challenge
2023 ж. 3 Қар.
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It’s time for the biggest showdown in the carpentry industry, Beat The Bully! The concept is simple anyone from the comments either negative or positive is welcome to go head to head with wood bully and see it really is as easy as it looks! 🤌
In this episode we do a Deck Build Off. We have exactly 4 hours and equal piles of lumber and hardware to choose from.
Parameters;
3x3 deck landing 3’ off the ground with guardrails, handrails, custom stairs and skirting.
Big thanks to our special guest judge: Bryan Baeumler from HGTVs Disaster DIY, Leave It To Bryan, Bryan Inc, Island Of Bryan and Renovation Island.
#deckbuilding #carpentrytips #carpentry #competition
For 4 hours, hats off to both of you. I'd still be arguing with my girlfriend about whether or not I need to put a tarp down or just blow the sawdust off the lawn after.
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Hey after it rains twice that's just fertilizer!
Four hours and I've plotted a centerline and divided the design sheet into thirds..
I wonder if the bully had an advantage by picking out what the build challenge was going to be and having more time to think about design.
Hood point. But we did agree about a month before we filmed
It’s definitely an upper hand, but also fair game as a month is enough time to prep for this challenge
@@woodbullyltdif I was living in the US , I'd be on here!! I'm an Actual Carpenter From Ireland 🇮🇪 If you had a month I'm sorry but that Carpenter should of done better! Jesus 1hr and he should been able to mock up a design and been able to implement it from memory! You need to work in metric guys! I've never in my life seen or heard of any Carpenter using a calculator 😂 maths , geometry is a huge part of the trade!
@@leprechaun7667 I'm not a carpenter, but I would think a system based on 12 would be helpful because it's easy to get exactly a 1/3 of a foot, 1/4, 1/6, etc.
@@bt-lt4os Metric!!! I know what I'm talking about!!
If it makes you guys feel better, at 4 hours I'd still be in the planning stage. 😄
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Yep I would still be figuring out the stair rise/run
Same!
I'd be on my 4th trip back to Home Depot.
I'd be asking my wife "Hey are you ok with this because it's not great but if it looks ok to you then I'll go with it"
More competitions like this. I like the independent judge at the end who points out everything that’s wrong. This is a great way to learn and compare techniques.
I agree. Definitely more to come
I appreciate our judge being fairly raw. It's good to hear an honest judge.
I agree
Thats the best part about this. A Judge that doesnt hold back. Love it
Great advertisement for the guys company honestly, the fact that he can build THAT in 4 hours and have it look decent at first glance, give him a few days, proper material and hes gonna make a piece of art in your yard
He is a beast bro I been watching him for a while now
Pretty cool idea. Haven’t read other comments, but if it were me doing this type of challenge I would reach out into the community to see if anyone needs stairs and a landing or what ever your next project is then donate it to the family that needs what your making. Then make a follow on video of you installing it at there house. It’s a win win. A person in need gets a prize and you get more content and accolades/views for your videos. 🤷🏽♂️
That's a great idea!
100% agree, maybe see what Habitat for humanity (or similar) might be interested in?
Ur basically running ur post through, but yet not, U could have if you banded the outside of deck then putting a little landing on beams….👍. If nothing is to code I’d be done at 2:30
Actually crazy how big of a tv personality and amazingly skilled tradesman Brian is and to be on the small channel is absolutely awesome.
Agreed
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I think for the next challenge the random picked judge should choose what they build so that the wood bully doesn't have a advantage. They should both have access to the same tooling. And not be allowed to see the other guy work, so the work can't be copied or mimicked.
I agree, except that I think they should be allowed to use their own tools - different people like to work in different ways with different tools and that doesn't make them better or worse carpenters imho.
They both knew what they were building a month prior...
well being able to see the other guy isn't unfair. they both can either copy or uncopy the other person, it's not like one has an advantage. but i guess if you wanted something 100% objective and independent, that'd be one way to do it.
There's no advantage because the wood bully and the contestant both have a month to think about what they're going to build beforehand It's not like it's dropped on the contestant the day of
The judge needs to be a 50 year old Indian soccer mom...she'll have blue tape all over it looking like it's polka-dot dotted(I've given homeowners blue tape to stick on anything they feel needs addressing before I leave the job so I don't have to walk around the house or deck with them while they talk about dumb shit) So I just give them blue tape and tell them to stick a piece where the sun don't shine. Well no...I want to say that..but yeah...whatever.
As a fellow carpenter both guys did a great job in the time they were allotted. As with any trade its great to see how other craftsman tackle things differently, because of that there's always something to learn and always new ways to become better, faster, and more precise. That's part of what makes the trades great. Hard hat off to you guys, great jobs!
Thanks man!!
@@woodbullyltdhow do I challenge you if I live in florida
I challenge you to compete against me in sheeting a roof.
Competition is good for all involved, this isn’t easy and we all would like to have a lumber next to entry clients build to solve the lack of materials when they arise, but being able to improvise is critical- they both made it worth watching!
Glad you enjoyed it!
that was super cool. i loved the judge. he didn't sugar coat anything and was very knowledgeable. I could watch many episodes of this format. great job to everyone
"Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast." Mantra to live by. Well done to both of you!
When I was nearly finished with my carpentry apprenticeship I was in a contest at my local union hall, which included a blueprint test, a site layout test, a hands on test to build a Japanese bridge, and a concrete form for a bridge abutment. After that contest I went to the CA state contest. Similar format with different projects. It was a great experience. I was asked to teach apprentices for our local program.
You need to tell people on your shorts you have these build offs. I usually check KZheadrs main page for longer videos and that's how I stumbled across this. Remember KZhead doesn't let you click on links in the short vids.
Thanks for this!
This looks super dope. 🔥 Salute fellow Carpenters ✊🏾🥃 🔨 Was amazing Brian came in a special judge
Here’s a tip, when you cut the stringers, add one more rise and run and tuck it under the deck frame, that way your not putting the weight of the stairs on a little block screwed in from the back, that connection fails in about a year of use
I'm a 3rd generation carpenter, Kudos to both of you. I don't many people that could do that build in 4 hours including me. This was fun to watch, keep them coming.
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I would be down for this. I would really struggle with this specific challenge though even though I’m a 20 plus year career pro carpenter/woodworker. The reason I would struggle is not having any drawings/plans to work off of combined with the time limit. I’m currently building a very detailed range hood vent in my wood shop that is completely custom and has compound swoops with miters made from solid walnut. But I have time to plan it, draw it in fusion360, and build it in a controlled shop and no time limit (other than not milking the time). The other thing I would like to point out is I don’t think “the bully” should come up with the challenge, he should have an independent carpenter brain storm and plan the challenge. The reason being that the bully has all the time to brainstorm and game plan how he would tackle the challenge while he’s coming up with and planning the challenge himself, while the challenger is walking into it completely blind.
I believe they picked what to build a month before filming
Same for me. Want to draw it all in rhino before cutting. I guess more experience or confidence and you can just go for it but it would be a big hot mess if I just went for it like these guys.
He had a month's notice. Plenty of time to decide how to vuild something he's no doubt built many times before. It's a fair challenge.
Not being a carpenter, the crazy part to me is that they did this in 4 hours! I could only wish to be this skilled
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I think for the next challenge, you should both walk in blind as to the challenge, and have to come up with a design on the spot, and use the same tools, and also let loose a polar bear in the shop just to up the intensity a bit, really give it that reality show "vibe".
Great suggestion
That is definitely an 8 hour job for me, not counting running to pickup materials. I'm impressed with both of you and you definitely have a new sub!
Thanks!
3 months in and I have a top and steps...for the most part but hey I can get up and down it lol
It would be really cool to have an average person who has never built anything out of wood, come on your show and have you teach them how to build a quality deck!! I would love to see that episode. Overall, awesome channel. Just subscribed!
Great!
As the regular guy who built his own deck and is really unhappy with how it turned out, I'd be down to be the first person to go on that show.
Finally KZhead sent me something Im interested in, love the concept of this challenge as I’m a big DIY/handyman myself, Can’t wait to see more challenges/build offs like these, May I suggest building a 2 story dog house as that’s my next project and I’d love to see creative ideas I may implement into my build. Thanks in advance! Great Video! 👍🏼
Great idea!
Fair play for someone in the trade actually going head-to-head with this. Two different designs were built for speed and with the materials to hand. I'm sure if they had to do this for a client they would have taken a completely different approach. Great video!!
Thanks!
Thats a good video. Im balls deep in a home expansion doing it all myself. Loving every minute of it. Videos like this help keep me on track. Thanks!
I love this idea and hope this competitive build off continues. I think this could set a tread with other people to get going. Champion build off at the end of each year.
I agree! Let’s hope we can keep doing this!
all i do is build stairs closed , open sets, commercial and residential this was very fun to watch and i can appreciate this very much! good job to both of you.
Awesome, thank you!
Good challenge. 4 hours seems like a lot of time until you start but having a design ahead of time definitely helps.
First time I’ve come across this channel. Absolutely fantastic challenge, I would be completely lost. I’m impressed by both builds given the time constraints and on the fly decisions. Thoroughly entertaining, I doubt any of the trolls online take you up in real life
It’s true. We had a few come close but backed out last minute. Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind words
I would do this just for the fun of it. Wish I had time to squeeze it in.
I like watching your normal videos but man you have to keep pumping these challenges out. Fun to watch. I think I would get way to frustrated with the time limit if I was to try but I enjoy watching some of these other guys take you on and seeing different styles of work.
Definitely in the works
I really like the idea of this video. I’m with several others that I’ve seen that say - next time the judge picks the challenge. Head to the lumber store to buy why at you think you need then get back and have the same amount of time to build
I do like using a miter saw in tandem with a digital angle finder (Husky makes a $20 one) for when you have boards joining that aren't on the detent angles (90, 45, etc) or angles that are slightly off of the detent angles. A circ saw only has bevel angle adjustments but if you have a board that needs a bevel cut to join into another board and the angle is some odd angle like 43.5, it's a lot harder to gauge a circ saw to an angle that's not a detent angle and get it perfect. A miter saw can be adjusted to a non-detent angle just as quickly and accurately as you can a detent angle b/c that's what it was designed to do. They are really nice to have on finish carpentry where you need your cuts sealed perfectly. A circ saw is for rough framing but when you get into something with a lot of miters/bevels - especially when it's some odd angle thats where you'll really glad to have a miter saw (but you need something to gauge what that angle is - angle finder)
I like the footers sticking out tbh, but the banisters being prebuilt is nice, what would be cool is a one piece top rail part, like where it’s attached together first then laid on top
Great video idea. We used to have a TV show here in NZ about Top Farmers going head to head.
I thought it was clever, fun and decently paced. What I admired though was the fact that there weren't 10 youtube ads in the middle of the video... Props for not letting greed take the reigns like so many do.
Super excited that your video popped up in the feed! Made my day. Great job to all!
Music to my eyes!
great looking decks, my fav look for the last step at the top is to plunge cut out the 4x4 or you can drill a hole and jigsaw it out but it looks really nice. Also leaves as much space as possible for structural integrity of that board. Can't tell you how many times i've just knotched it, went to bang it into place and the smallest piece snaps off. Love the videos!
50 year old 🇬🇧 carpenter here. Just stumbled across this video. Really entertaining, you got yourself a new subscriber 👍 keep up the good work guys;-)
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it!
Probably one of the most entertaining videos I’ve seen in a while. Nice job guys
Thank you!!
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I appreciated that the question about if you were proud of what you built was asked, but it would've been interesting to see if the constructors themselves' critiques would have lined up with the judge's given the opportunity to judge themselves prior
I think this is an awesome idea. Super, impressed with both of you. I had to go back and rewarch you freehand, cutting the legs to see if it was sped up. Like watching a Kung-fu movie from the 80s. Well do.
Truth be told, i would rather the challenge be separated, same tools, same materials, same parameters, HOWEVER. the two contestants would be separated and have either 24 or 48 hours to complete it instead. Quality over quantity.
Great concept for a vlog. Be cool to see more of these!
More to come!
Great idea. Friendly competition, everybody gets to put their ego in check, educational, encouraging, and just all-around fun.
Awesome. It's always great to see masters of their craft at work.
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He won it when he went for the beveled edges. That level of know-it polish is the better. Rounded edges always.
Only thing I'd done on Bradley's steps is cut that last step off top and drop it whatever the length is on ur risers. Ull have to add a 2x6 under the band so u have enough to screw to but it saves u a step and looks much better than the top step being level with the deck floor. . And never rely on toe nails only to attach ur stringers to the deck frame.. get under the deck and screw through the band and into the stringer it'll be much stronger. . U can also toe nail it too but like I say I wouldn't rely on those only
The way Brad did his balusters, put a square nut on your speed square to lock the angle, snap the line at your plate offset and use the skill saw (1 1/2 or 3 1/2 depending on side of the saw) and hold the angle with the speed square against the plate on the line. Ik its hidden under the rail, but damn that tool is supposed to stay in the trailer till you fuck up for a reason.
If I were running a job and needed an additional carpenter, I would be torn between two negatives: Brad is less of a craftsman but much easier going, while WB is clever but has an attitude that would immediately draw the fire of any other carpenter on the job. I would either look for a third applicant or go with Brad. Also, having been in the trade for many years, I think 4 hours for this project is too long.
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@@woodbullyltdyou’re cocky but you’re good. Someone will humble you one of these days though
bro you just said you can’t work without plans and you think you can do this in 4 hours 🤣🤣
Dude this was awesome. Both of you lads did a great job given the parameters. Easy there Gordon, you keep this superb content up you’ll be on HGTV 😂🔥🔥🔥
Glad you enjoyed it. Let’s see what happens!!
This is the first time I’ve seen your stuff. You earned a subscribe from me. I really like this and I don’t comment much on vids. I’m all in with the others saying I couldn’t do it in 4 hours. I don’t work well under time crunches. Now if I were the judge, I would have noted that both do not meet the residential code used in my area and most of the cities in the US. The one thing I saw is neither had a separate “grab rail” on the stair required by code. I built my own deck a few years ago & that is one thing the inspector got on me.
As a fellow carpenter, great job by both you guys. Can’t wait to see more
Only thing i would change is maybe offering it to someone who needs a decks built for there home. Would be cool to see it donated to someone in these tough times. Something that also comes to mind. Just an idea would be for kids like building a tree house or play house would be awesome to see. Obviously after the contest maybe going back over it fixing the little stuff.
I agree
I think this is a good idea but if it isnt up to code then liability issues become a real thing.
@@mackinmall i agree but thats the point i made of going back over it after competition is complete and fixing anything that isnt right. Obviously i think they would discuss codes before they started a project like this. They guy seems pretty smart. So id assume something like that would be fairly easy to figure out.
My first thought was what a waste of material.
@@gokrisgaming it would become an issue with people that were out of state.
Never seen the wood bully. Great name luv the attitude. I remember my 1st took around 12 hours with plans then i moved to Denver & perfected it in 3.2 hours. Denver is another level of carpenters. You guys did a great job considering you don’t only build what we call “ trailer house steps” those sell for $780. A pop fyi. Now go bully more people lol
He said to disassemble it and put the cedar to good use!! 😭 Congrats to both of you great job 🫡
Thanks
I would have made those same mistakes and then some without the clock, the cameras and the pressure....and yet watching this video, I learned things from both of you
Amazing!
Amazing idea. I'm subbed. Looking forward to the next challenge
Welcome aboard!
Very enjoyable. Positive review for both carpenters.
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My grandfather was a contractor and construction guy for over 35 years, and he was all about building above code. If he had been involved in any challenge, it wouldn't be speed. He always said people can choose one of two options: speed or low cost, because he always built for quality. I'll bet given twice the time, both of these guys could have come up with something that would have made judging nearly impossible.
That’s very true
Woodworking is for anyone. Only thing that needs to be known is how to and experience for the project at hand. Also speed isn't best , I've woodworked for 30 years and have seen everything that shouldn't be. Framing is where the rules and know how lay and carpenters finish up. If your sanding your mistakes on a deck you got something a little off , more than likely out of square. Pull a tape across your corners and check before laying flooring. The true test is weathering after build
Haven't been able to notch 4x4 posts in a while with code enforcement.. i no decks i built ten years ago are still going strong but i do like the new through bolt style lags. Posts always go inside the box ... Everyone does things differently
it seemed fair, with the judge not being aware of who built what, and leaving him alone to judge everything himself first. he seems like a qualified guy, knows what he's talking about.
Looking at them from afar, I liked the challenger much more. It looked nicer with the wider steps and the overhangs. But then we got to see it up close and there were certainly problems. Overall, yes the bully should have won. But I still like the look of the other one more.
In addition to a blind challenge, let's get an off duty OSHA inspector, not to interrupt or interfere but to present a demerit count at the end
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I gave it to the bully because of the spindles. Even though that narrow space on the stairs bothers me and no overhang on his decking.
This was very entertaining to watch. I know for sure I would not have been able to finish it in that time span.
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Nice job fellas, most people will understand the time constraints. Great challenge and video, count me out.
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I would not even get it completed. Great job! Was a good show.
Thanks!
A couple years ago my father built a extension to our current deck to partially wrap around our pool. Little did we know he was having blood clots through his body and was struggling physically through the entire process, having to take breaks fighting off dizzy spells and passing out. He completed the deck the best he could but since his passing about 2 years ago.. the desk hasent really held up.. videos like this encourage me to learn more about wood working and fix it someday.. but man.. its a lot of work!
So sorry to hear that. Maybe you could finish it in his honour.
I think both did an amazing job! Its all in experience an time you develope that. The new guy did a good job as well an most importantly he learned
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I cant do a test on a time crunch, I would not be able to cut those stairs with a countdown in my face... haha. Glad I found the channel.
Welcome aboard!
"you don't know how to use a skill saw" I love this. my dad always claimed he could make cabinetry grade cuts with one, and I have yet to prove him wrong. or right.
What an awesome challenge! Glad this came across my KZhead!
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I’d love to do a challenge like this… not sure I’d want my performance on KZhead though 😂 maybe with 5 hours I could pull it off
Love the contents, it’s fun to watch and learn.
This was great to watch! I'd like both of these guys on my team, these guys doing a job would be perfect. One person has a different eye than another yet it would be amazing to watch them grow as a team.
Thank you! More episodes to come!
Thanks for the cool content with the challenge- great vid!!
Thanks for watching
As weekend do it yourselfer that built my deck I'm blown away at how poor the quality of lumber is. Not box store stuff either. 4x4s that twist like twizzlers, the cupping, splitting, moisture ect. Props to you carpenters that make it look easy.
Thanks! Yes lumber ain’t what it used to be
So forged in fire with carpentry instead...love this idea
Pretty much
I really like these challenges I subbed glad I found your channel looking forward for more content thanks :)
Thanks! More challenges coming!
Seriously, without seeing the details, I much preferred the carpenter's staircase / deck. Well done to both of you!
Very impressive speed. Both were waaaaaay faster than I could have done it. As a "Weekend Warrior" it would have taken me the whole weekend. (including 3 extra trips for materials I forgot) Plus, I tend to get very picky about the details as I'm getting closer to finishing.
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Gotta get that plan finalized before heading to the yard. Draw it out if necessary but at least sit down and work through each process in your head and figure the materials from start to finish. Then give yourself a couple extra boards here and there. Be thorough and have that checklist in your head. Fasteners, anchors, adhesive, shims, paint, application materials etc.
@@jamesnm21 I agree in theory. The thing that tends to throw me off is when I'm building something I've never built before. There is (almost) always something I didn't think of or just forgot.
@@stevemamooshka3425 you'll never guess how my day went. I found out after 2 trips to the lumberyard for a new straight edge and other jig materials that the foot on my bargain brand circular saw was bent. Hard to cut a laminate countertop miter joint that's straight with a faulty tool. Sometimes it happens. Glad the day is over.
@@jamesnm21 I'm glad it's not just me. Murphy's law is alive, and well.
I already like the challenger when he mentioned as an advantage “…and charm” 😂 that’s right my guy let em know
Very cool and fun build-off.
It was a lot of fun!
disregarding the mistakes because of the time i personally like the look of #2 i didnt like the preframing ballasters i also like how the rails on #2 are al the way out to max width on the treads Great job for both with just 4 hrs!
Love this challenge. Takes a lot to be criticized publicly. Way to go men, this is much more difficult than most would think. Everyone's watches those DIY shows that make everything look like a breeze. That's just not reality.
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Time constraints I would have lost for sure. They both did a good job. That is not an easy task. Usually you have a helper to make cuts and excess wood to ease the stress. Nice video.
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Brilliant idea. Brilliant video. Many thanks guys.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm so impressed with both of them, that's nuts. I mean I get this is a challenge but the format is so constrictive, both these guys are very skilled but the time crunch really didn't reflect that. Well done for completing the challenge though both of you. Edit: I mean the time crunch made it so that they both were doing things they wouldn't do normally in order to slap it together so even if you were great at something every time like mitres or plumb and level you didn't even a chance to get that here. Also no time for finishing, maybe it should be an 8 hour challenge, would alleviate a lot of the issues but that's expensive.
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As a carpenter I would 100% notice and appreciate all routered chamfers
We want more! Good job both 🙏
just building a set stairs and a landing in 4 hours from uncut lengths is a feat in itself, good on ya both
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I honestly think you both did do a wonderful job and would love to see a rematch with either a longer limit or none at all
Great idea
Since going into contracting full-time, I can say that I almost NEVER use a chopsaw, I only break it out when I'm doing crown moulding or trim. If you are looking forgetting yourself tools, focus on getting a really good circular saw, put in the hours to use it expertly and you can do almost anything with it -FAST.
Where the chopsaw shines is with smaller timber. You could use a handsaw for those cuts but a chopsaw will generally be quicker and (for most people) more accurate. I think it's worth investing in both. They're not that expensive.
I dont know how this popped up but im glad it did...i was glued..... This was ALOT of fun.... Look we cant see everything and angles and dont get a great picture but The judge: needs more of a "user" friendly opnion, not just a construction worker opnion.... Example: the wider stairs get more points because they are much more user friendly...walking up with grocery bags or walking next to a dog.... Steepness of stairs, bully gets the win for older folks, just a nicer design Loved the build battle ❤
Thanks for watching and for the feedback
That dual battery makita skillsaw you used was amazing.
Great saw
@@woodbullyltd My favorite saw.
Impressive on the time 4 hours!!! But both decks would fail inspection in Michigan. The handrails going down the steps dont meet code.
Add a grab rail done. Otherwise most builds with grab rails are unattractive.
Are they in Michigan?
What a great video!!! Excellent work both men.. very pleased with the whole video.
Much appreciated!
How can I send you my credentials?
The judge should have declared the winning staircase before knowing which one was built by the owner of the channel. That's the point of the anonymous judging. Still he did pick the one he seemed to like better before (unless that was edited down afterward).
Both did great. They both admit they could of done a better job and are not happy with thier work which let's you know they take pride in thier craft and build. I like the #1s design better. I am going to redo my front porch and stairs as well as our back desk with adding space to them.