How 'Spider-Man: No Way Home' Visual Effects Were Made | Vanity Fair
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"Tom Holland does a ton of his own stunts." Kelly Port, the Visual Effects Supervisor for 'Spider-Man: No Way Home,' gives his in-depth analysis and insider's look at the CGI and VFX in the scenes leading up to Doctor Octopus's introduction during the "bridge fight."
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He could break down the whole movie in this style and I would watch it. Seeing how to movies get made and have a sneak peak at all the archive bts footage is such a treat. Got any take in the movie there is probably 10 different versions or angles of it we’ll never get to see.
Same!
Some unnecessary info: because I found this kind of stuff so interesting, I'm currently studying to become a VFX artist. It's so exciting
@@abhayharikasun Not unnecessary at all, good luck man 👍
Check out Corridor Crew if you haven't. They show you a side of filmmaking you rarely get to see and invite the people who make thе movies to discuss how they achieved these magical wonders.
there is a channel called corridor crew which has a series called vfx artists react, stuntmen react and they react to movies and get the actual artists that worked on these movies to share how it was done fully. higly reccomend giving it a watch :) many big names are coming on tehre as guests.
kinda scary how there’s only 80 shots without visual effects. hats off to this dude he basically had to create the outside world digitally also I can’t imagine how tiring it must be for tom to perform 90% of the scenes in front of a green screen
i mean, that's like every marvel movie ever now...
Did you know that the Social Network had more VFX shots than Godzilla? VFX is not just lazers and explosions.
@@julienpouliot270 That movie had twins played by the same actor so it makes sense
Hats off should also be going to the actual people who created the “outside world”.
now? haven’t they always been like that?
I love that vfx artists are called "artists" and not technicians. They truly are artists. It's magnificent
They’re often referred to as “technical artists”
Those scenes where you normally thought it was practical but it was actually VFX, those deserve a round of applause.
The scenes that everyone though was CGI but were actually practical deserve even more applause.
@@fxrdo So something that is real that looks real (obviously) is more impressive than something that is fake that looks real?
@@FranciscoHOS I think he's saying it's more impressive to make something real look fake, but idk
@@TristenJayW thats not what I mean. Read my reply to Degenerate Hawks that should clear up what I meant.
@@fxrdo just the same actually
i knew tom did a lot of his own stunts but holy crap he’s insane
All that ballet he did really paid off.
Too bad it all gets completely replaced as a CG model
Animators are still using his performance either in mo-cap or actual frame replacement
@@jameshp11 you dont know how it worked man?
@@jameshp11 why are you dumb in public
we seriously need more contents like this to appreciate the people who worked behind the scene...oh wow how one single frame has so many layers and details. Amazing, this movie is even greater than it already is.
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14:30 15:54 Shout out to practical for these insane stunts! Must have been fun to watch on set.
Love ur vids
love your videos 💖
I can listen to him breaking down the whole movie scene! this is beyond awesomeness.
"we weren't able to put the baby in the rotisserie rig." He is like, "we tried, but weren't able to use a toddler in car flipping stunt." Hollywood, don't ever change.
I have no idea how that baby thinks they're going to get hired on other movies if they refuse to do their own stunts. These toddler actors are just getting more and more molly coddled.
out of context, that statement is even more disturbing lol
except the rapes. Holywood could do without those.
I know CGI can turn people off sometimes, but it's still just as much of a daunting task as creating something practical, yes I do think filmakers should strive to be somewhere in the middle, but I say if they make it seamless then that something to praise.
The thing is the cgi can be more than noticeable at times
@@ultrascouter203 especially in a rushed movie wink wink
@@KopiO599 that is probably one of the only parts of the movie where CGI was not very impressive
@@KopiO599 and the part where andrew falls after saving mj
@@ultrascouter203 goes either way. Rushed CGI is noticeable but so is a poorly designed practical element
Hopefully this is just the part 1 because I wanna hear the whole story of the visual effects of the 3rd act!
3rd half
Yeah. They need to go over some of the shots in the fifth quarter, too.
@@tyler-qe7ls that's not mathematically logical
@@imranahmad-uh9fi comment said “visual effects of the 3rd half” before the edit
Act 3
Kelly Port being nominated for an Oscar for this movie really shows in this breakdown. Just the detail and depth of explanation of each shot is quite fascinating for the average movie watcher to see how VFX are actually done.
Too bad Dune is gonna win. They are not even on the same level of production, not even close.
I’m working on VFX for a Spidey fan film right now, and videos like these are like film school. Really cool to see how this came together.
Lotus?? 👀
@@PeterParker-mp7ns no, It's called Miles 2
Watch corridor crew
@@PeterParker-mp7ns OMGGG GUYSS, I found a HUGE LEAK FOR THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 3!!! kzhead.info/sun/etqzkbmQa6ibra8/bejne.html…
@@JoeLoquacious good one 🤣
This not only helps you appreciate what goes into making these movies: it makes me appreciate Tom Holland's acting skills. He has to immerse himself in this world that doesn't exist yet in his eyes. His portrayal of Peter Parker/Spider-Man is absolutely incredible.
Tom Holland actually isn't a good actor .. have you seen is his other movies lmao. He's average at best
@@forzahorizon5clips822 Why are you so jealous? Your most recent comments are all negative things about Tom Holland and Spider-Man movies. That's pretty sad. I hope you find happiness in life.
Physical acting is good maybe high tier not talking about dramatic acting talking athletic stunt abilities, moving his body in space
@@forzahorizon5clips822 shut up
@@Zetsuke4 shut up
I would LOVE to see a VFX breakdown of the final fight scene that would be awesome!
I am an advocate for more practical effects and against overused cgi, but I will forever hold vfx artists in high regard for doing their best to recreate the world and make it look as seamless as they possibly can. When you consider the amount of time the team had, and how much they had to do, you can be more understanding of the final product. I do have issues with No Way Home's use of cgi where there really shouldn't need to be at first (I'm looking at you, Green Goblin) but I'm never going to blame the vfx team for this. It's mainly a decision made during production, especially since marvel movies seem to be increasing in number of projects coming out relatively close to each other, hence not enough time to clean up the vfx shots.
I agree. Love the movie but man it doesn’t look good to me
I can understand why they had to use more CGI for most of the movie, Covid-19 reasons
The Brooklyn bridge is a prime example of why CGI is preferred. It's cheaper and easier to animate. Shots that would otherwise be impossible are simply drawn.
@@fanzon7660 All the Spider-Man mcu films use gci wayyyyy too much and in situations where it just isn’t needed
@@ramito3337 this one took it to another level. Even the guy in the video himself made a joke about a simple shot of a seat belt still uses CGI. Go watch the amazing Spider-Man 2. That movie feels real bc the suit was an actual suit and not cg and they shot part of the movie in New York and not a warehouse in Atlanta
vfx artists are so undervalued, not just by people outside of the film/tv industry but the actual industry themselves seeing as how overworked and underpaid they are 🤷🏾♀️ they have to time crunch all the time and the result is people saying using cgi is lazy. i do agree that cgi can be overused, particularly because studios like to exploit cgi artists, but i would never attack the actual artists or the craft of cgi. i just hope that they have better working conditions in the future
Wait really? Explain why please, i don't understand.
@@cupcakemcsparklebutt9051 Often, regular who have no experience with CGI love to criticize it when they find out it was CGI rather than practical (real), after they’ve already praised it. We say VFX artists are under appreciated because they are. If you’ve ever taken the time to look at credits after movies, there’s a part where they mention the artists and so many other people who rarely ever get credit. It all goes to the directors, (sometimes) writers, and actors unfortunately when it comes to superhero movies. They also get paid very little which is unfair.
@@SpiderManMCUniverse yup, they're very overworked for very little pay. and i can totally understand people calling out bad cgi but even when the cgi is good people still discredit cgi artists by saying stuff like "the movie looks good because they barely used any cgi". for example, the way people talk about dune when in reality theres 1000+ vfx shots in it. its like they cant win even when they do a good job lol
@@SpiderManMCUniverse Thank you for speaking it up. Those ignorant people who just complain about CGI are so annoying and rude
And there’s another video titled “Life after Pie.” That proves, Visual effects artist or animators gets treated like garbage in the industry.
I would literally watch the whole thing if he discussed every big scene
This should be done for so many more movies. It is so interesting to see how things came to life. Loving it!
NOOOOOOOOOOO, absolutely not. I don't want cgi leaves and rotoscoped environments in my drama.
@@EricHamm why? those shots looked very real. now, they can create such scenes without blocking off highways n disrupting public life.
I gotta say I specifically remember the car thrown into the water barrels and thinking how cool that looked that it had to be practical. Props to Port but there is still no beating those kind of shots
This is trully phenomenal. Can't wait for the moment I'm gonna be able to afford at least 50% of this amount of experienced people to do VFX for my movies.
ikr
i can help you , i have a vfx studio , we do industry ready cheap vfx
@@poopiecon1489 you pay minimum wage?
@@BetaBreaking yes i definitely pay good
Lol ok
Dang, seeing Tom Holland do all the movements and flips in real time. Much props, he is a literal Spider-man
Geez Tom Holland really is Peter Parker & Spider-Man! 👏👏
I would love to know more about that Green Goblin entrance, what they wanted to do and what they ended up going with, I was actually really excited to see a fight with the goblin early on especially with the old suit. Really awesome stuff and bravo to the visual effects team for bringing this stuff to life.
8:52. The de-aging technology is amazing 🔥🔥🔥
A huge downside for marvel is its so hard to shoot in NYC so that's why they are forced for use blue screen all the time... I remember at the end of FFH tom is with zendaya doing the final swing.. that was shot in NYC but it took so long to shoot because Papz and people kept walking in front of camera's.
Actually they wanted to shoot in NYC but they weren't allowed Because of COVID
@@user-ft3jo7sr2j wdym, FFH was before pandemic
@@user-oj6gy2wn1c I'm talking about nwh cause you said it's so hard for them to shoot in NYC and they are forced to use blue screen
@@user-ft3jo7sr2j i c
Really justifies the overuse of CGI at least in a business standpoint
i wanna see him talk about the special effects in the dr strange vs spiderman fight :)
Same
This guy and the whole team of effects, camera and editing are the real heroes to me, what a job, one that i kinda want to do but honestly sounds like people are complicating stuff more and more
I am so infatuated with Visual Effects... It's a good thing I chose it as a career path. I just love every bit of the creation process that goes behind it. Bravo to everyone who brought this masterpiece to life!
It’s a great industry, love the people and best advice I could give is having a positive attitude on anything you end up doing.
@@icamarillo121 its a horrible industry fym
@@user-th8pr7no5p how so?
@@user-th8pr7no5p it’s all perspective. The working hours right now are not great but that’s the very reason you have to love to do it.
These VFX geniuses are the true heroes of the MCU who allow all these crazy worlds and characters to be bought to life
He conveys everything so casually and eloquently that it was a really nice experience. I appreciate seeing how much he cares for even the smallest details. Hope they can get him on again for more breakdowns like this.
The fight of Tom Holland’s Spider-Man and doc ock is a epic battle sequence that is the best mix of practical and cgi effects. As awesome the iron spider looks in the film, it’s even so dope that Tom Holland really did the epic stunts in the sequence in motion capture and even have him have a mechanical tentacle battle with doc ock.
this type of breakdown is you usually you hear in masterclass workshops for artist who are trying to learn and understand post-mortem about the film vfx.
Considering the amount of shots they had to do, they did extremely well. The few mediocre shots that stood out were probably down to time constraints and the actual production not providing enough assets to the VFX studios.
As an animation graduate, I live for these breakdowns
They did a really good job making this movie, full of talented people. I love it so much 😭
As a VFX student, this helps a lot to understand the industry.
Theres literally no mention of the industry or tips or anything for a vfx student in this video, but alright.
@@sonofnergal4794 trust me you can learn a Lot with videos like this if you know a little bit of vfx
@@sonofnergal4794 he talks about set extension alteting clips scheduling, what a big film with alot of vfx shots is coordinated talking about references about rigging and what the animators see mention mini tidbits such as the trash that pull a scene together dude i don't think you blinked and missed it you tpok a nap
Plz tell me where did u start to learn vfx. Im interested in learning vfx too.
@@videostarts no ita just basic ..but vfx cg in real ,breaking 1000scenes on vfx is much complex than you think ..
11:26 He sounded so disappointed when he said “we weren’t able to but the baby in the rotisserie rig.” 😂
13:16 Tom Holland doing all those flips in the real world. That's amazing.
he explained everything so beautifully. i wish you put his name in the title. kelly port! a true genius in his craft.
Him knowing the shot number LOL - working in animation and some shots you just see SO often the entire thing is embedded in your head frame by frame. Felt that.
One of the most informative and well-done "Making Of" I've seen so far.
The sad thing is that nobody knows who he is or the team. It's crazy that we know the side characters and they have millions of fans but nobody knows him or the team
He’s in the credits. You don’t know cause you’re lazy
@@sharkiealami7817 Yeah I'm sure you read every single name in the credits..
Not true, VFX leads and Cinematgraphers get lots of credit for production. But outside of VFX fans or movie fans, why would a general audience care who supervised in production?
@@fourcgames7568 only read what I’m looking for. You wanna read every single names then by all means
This Makes Me Think That Doctor Strange 2 Is Gonna Be Insane Visually
It's Sam Raimi so I don't think there will be lots of VFX shots in that movie. Most will be practical
@Parvis wdym? They’ll clearly just have practical shots of Benedict Cumberbatch using magic
Highly doubt that because of the extensive reshoots.
@@BurgoYT there is no way Dr Strange's magic can be done with practical effects. Portals and mirror dimensions and all that stuff is impossible with practical effects. Don't be ridiculous
@@enadegheeghaghe6369 you gotta be the most dense human being on this planet
@11:30 "We weren't able to put the baby in the Rotisserie rig" - maybe the only time this sentence is okay.
This video is just... AMAZING. I could watch him talking about the entire movie without getting bored
I love seeing how the effects were made and how the movie was made. This was a treat for sure, thanks for uploading this, and filming this during covid, man that's awesome.
This is amazing what they have to do in a big movie like this what they have to add to make a lot of it look real I love seeing behind the scenes of movies to see how they made it I have always been fascinated with all this.
I keep thinking “Marvel is Jsut flexing at this point- I’m so jealous” but I realize, it’s WAY easier to use building and animation skills to create a longer set extension, because of Covid, and I’m actually really happy they did this, they are masters and don’t have to worry too much, because a lot of times it’s not noticeable, but it’s really good
Not really, visual effects artists are not unionized and are underpaid and overworked. Marvel uses them instead of production workers who build sets etc are affiliated with unions cuz it saves them a lot of money
Watching this just enhanced my viewing and appreciation of the movie a trillion times over. Well done all who worked on this movie and thank you! So much effort for our entertainment; thank you 👏
Tom is really talented wow
Imagine a breakdown with the whole mirror sequence and the final battle, lit.
This is really great, as someone who wants to go into this type of area for a living, it's amazing to get to see how it's done!
13:13 Tom Holland really went full Spider-Man to do his own stunts while wearing motion capture.
Kudos to you guys and your entire Special & Visual effects team it’s absolutely incredible the attention to detail you guys went to thank you!❤️
the attention to detail is insane
Yes they went through so much to make it look like real life even though they could have just filmed in real locations and actually gave the film an aesthetic
@@stupididiot6993 they couldn't, he basically said that filming in real location was a daunting task.
I love seeing stuff like this and what goes into the CGI. I figured the fight scenes would be a lot of CG but the stuff like environments looked so good that you didn’t realize it was CGI. I’d like another part to this showing off the CG that went into the Dr Strange fight and the final fight as well
I really wished they had more of goblin on the bridge scene
More VFX breakdowns like this PLEASE!
Wowza! Just gives you a sense of amazement at how far CGI has come. Especially the reflections in the windows....
I agree that practical effects often look better than vfx, but most people dont recognize that vfx is almost always invisible. Vfx isnt just in the explosions and costumes, it's in the trees and sidewalks
Was he off the day they worked on Andrew's landing after saving MJ?
LMAO that part looked really fake
Gosh it’s so satisfying and interesting to watch these break down videos
I could watch this for hours, hope there is a part two
23:03 for everyone wanting to see the alternative scene where Tom Holland’s Spider-Man fights green goblin at the bridge.
Yes! Now do a breakdown of the whole film.
I LOVE the mini science lesson on lighting that went into this! Too awesome!
I'd love take you to one of our grey blurry fight scenes or to our apartment and basement sets. What beautiful and artistic filmmaking
14:58 This is why Holland is the best Spider-man, and deservedly Peter #1
Yeah and then they replace his stunts with a cgi model (not talkinh about this particular shot, but since homexoming they are doing that)
We need Part 2!!!
wow! when you mentioned titanic I remembered being OBSESSED with the VFX in that BTS too and it was so nostalgic love this!!!
Reaaaally great video. Best VFX breakdown yet. So detailed and interesting. More please!
Tom Holland coming up with the wrinkly suit idea is phenomenal!!
I am always for practical vs digital. But this was awesome to watch. And I see many film fans say acting today is easier because so much of it is CGI. I disagree with that and say it's more difficult. The actor has to use their imagination and react to things that aren't even there. Or do silly things like talk to a tennis ball lol.
I love content like this. Great poetic and artistic film. Shoutouts to the whole team that worked on this Modern masterpiece
12:26 the epic mechanical tentacle sword fight of Iron spider and doc ock.
11:33 they had a choice to just not put the baby in there. But they did. Respect man
This video was very fun and interesting to watch, so cool to see how this amazing movie was made
That's incredible huge respect to these guys and also tom is an amazing actor not only he does his own stunts but acting in 90% blue screen is a challenge
Bravo! Well done to all the people that worked on this film. I enjoyed the breakdown 🙂 really good stuff
His attention to detail is insane! Him pointing out the trash I didn’t even notice
Kinda surprised that they didn't use the Volume for some of these shots. Disney owns it and I think it's at the same Atlanta Pinewood studios (or perhaps in the London studios) but it would have made certain shots easier for the crew and a faster post-production time
The Volume hasn't yet been used in any Disney movie production. Since it uses a video game engine, Unreal Engine 4, movie producers with years in the industry aren't yet comfortable with using it for $200M+ budget movies, despite the Volume being cheaper and visually superior. They would rather do the tried-and-true way. Hopefully soon the volume can be greenlit for movie production.
It has been used for the Disney+ Star Wars shows and is being used right now in production for Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.
@@Nick-lz5lx and thor love and thunder
@@Nick-lz5lx the Batman also used it too
I think they're building more locations for it to be used, but as others have said, they're using it for AntMan and Thor.
I would love a breakdown of the Dr Strange and Peter scene in the mirror universe. That would nice to hear :)
I could listen to this all day. So much fun to know
This was so interesting to watch! Absolutely amazing!!
I'll be honest i noticed a lot of the visual effects and although i wish there was more real shots, it was the only way we could get this movie during pandemic so I'm OK with it. but i just miss traditional film making where a lot more is shot for real and looks real.
Woah seeing Tom do those stunts with the trampolines and flips was super cool
Man who misses the show movie magic?? The best behind the scenes of fx for movies. This is something like that wish we can get more of this
If if you find anyone willing to break down the VFX of the entire movie please do, I love watching this
How interesting it is to learn how my favorite movie was made! All the things we can do with technology these days...really love the creativity. It's totally impossible to believe that these scenes are all visual effects...
I love the low key shade he throws at Tony Revolori at 1:25 for not being available on the day they shot the scene
we definitely need more of this kind of content!
Kinda sad how more practical shots gets replaced or just for reference anyway. But yeah i get the reasoning behind it. And also makes me realize that a VFX supervisor kinda have a say about the directing especially in action shots.
I actually would have loved to see the fight between Spidey and Goblin on the bridge. I also wish they kept Tobey vs Goblin.
Really enjoyed watching this! So facinating! I could watch Kelly to break down the whole movie!
20:33 That's why I have to wait until 2023 to get a new Tucson! They're all being used as props on sets 😏
The visual effects were truly spectacular in this film! They really did an amazing job!
What I've learnt with Marvel is always have super unnecessary VFX shots for shots that you could make practically.
Yep, and in some cases it’s cg over things that were done for real
It's explained in this video that sometimes that's done when they don't have the option to do it practically. You don't even notice until it's pointed out to you. It's not bad what they're doing, it's just efficient.
There are a lot of practical reasons why the shots weren't as practical as it could've been
And you don’t notice it so who cares lmao
@@BurgoYT We do notice. It looks fake most times. With every marvel movie. Quality lacks
Spider man has had the craziest week of his life lol.
I could watch this man speak for hours and hours on his knowledge of movies and effects. I’m completely invested into this