Revolver - Sorter's Falling Out

He CoD/CS pro xD

Is it, though? Looks more like him succumbing to his ego. Like Jake listening to that voice inside his head earlier in the movie, when he turned the gun on Avi.

Well.. What do you. Expect? this is America.!! To buy a weapon. Just like to. Buy bon bon..

He is angry because the other guy was gonna torture the girl to get answer from her dad. Sorter follow his code .. “No woman nor children”

Absolutely correct. Sorter is listening to his higher Self who tells him that this is wrong

@@thalessilva1 folk, this movie is a bit deeper than that. These violent scenes are there because that's what the market demands. The reality, there is a story within the story. Sorter is an accountant. He doesn't miss because numbers don't lie. Think about all the major corporate cons in the last thirty years. You know who saw the truth the whole time but were scared to act? Corporate accountants. What is Jake Green function throughout the movie; he's loaning money to folk HE KNOWS CAN'T PAY HIM BACK. In the Credit Card industry this type of borrower is called a REVOLVER; they're only able to pay interest, and so they're trapped in an unending revolving line of debt/ credit. The Greek and Egyptian art Macha possessed references to an 2500 year old book called "the Republic". In the late chapters Socrates explains the beginning of the end of an civilization (or at least its political system) when its economy transitions from a money (Mr. GOLD) to a debt (Mr. Green) based economy. In short order, inflation rises to the point only through credit can necessities be bought. The con is very few people realize money (must be pegged to gold) no longer exists and what that implies as far transferring wealth to children, buying a house or taking a large loan; the "money" you're borrowing doesn't exist, there fore the risk of the borrower not paying them back doesn't exist, and yet, borrowers must pay the principle and substantial interest for borrowing "money".

The same school as Leon ;)

No, he shot a woman in that restaurant.

Hitter or no hitter Sorter is a turncoat so he was meant to die no matter what, you were paid and you expect not to go through violent shit

He had morality & code, two strong elements

@@iiiiireserved7516 Morality and code..yes i agree but still a brainless moron. Instead of shooting everyone in the room, he could have kept the second in command (Paul) as hostage but no he went to kill everyone. Dumbest logic from an assassin i've seen. This is what led him to his death.

Right-on, Mejia. I saw the euro version bank in 2005. Couldn't stop thinking about it for months. After six months I thought the film was predicting a rough economic (self-inflicted with a little push) downturn for America. I was wrong. a decade (plus) later., I realized the film is actually a clever story of behavioral economics, the central and fractional banking systems which are far worse than any "accidental" deep recession or depression caused by the "business cycle". Jake Green represents central banking, or the Federal Reserve in this instance because this story is central banking VS. America conflict, and functions throughout the movie distributing his fake 12 dollar bills to first a struggling Polish business man, Japanese businessman, and then a penniless old woman. The fakeness pf the 12 dollar is important because central banks like the Federal Reserve create massive wealth for themselves by printing dollars and loaning monies while collecting interest when they don't have the money on hand. In fractional banking this is called the reserve rate. Now the criminal part of this is the multiplier effect where the bank can loan out 5 billion but is only legally responsible to have 500 million in assets. Because the Fed sets the interest rate, set the reserve rate, and prints fiat monies, this con is systemic - aka too big to fail. Now that you know Mr. Green , who do you suppose Mr. Gold is? That's right Mr. Gold is gold. By the way, you have know econ, psych and history play this game.Historically gold was the motivation for a great deal of mass murder of colored folks by whites and particularly during Bouillon economic eras. They did this mainly so they field enough troops to kill each other. Taking this in account, this is why Mr. Gold is feared. No one sees gold (anymore), because the US Government rounded up all the gold US citizens had tucked away and paid them $22 an ounce to support the war effort and had the Fed control it at Fort Knox. For decades, there were no public accounts of the nations wealth (gold) stored their, and it was much later when President Reagan tried to peg the fiscal budget to back to gold, that the nation found out their was no more gold. The Fed sold it to its Euro counterpart as collateral to our deficit spending for war. By the way, this finite amount of gold was bought from the interest payments from the billions of dollars generated out thin air - 85% of currency and wealth doesn't exist in any tangible form, but records are stored in bank databases. This was symbolized by the sleeping gas robbery scene. Macha of course is present day America who is past its prime although he's not aware of it. I forgot what ancient stated this but to summarize: when empires decay they treat their own like they treat the folk they have subjugated. Hence the gun to the child's head. He only puts the gun to his own head when green gives a slight push. Macha never realizes who the real enemy was because Mr. Green was giving him worthless fiat money. This is foreshadowed when Green's brother tries to warn him off stating: no one sees gold and lives to tell except you. Central banks are the new gold, and they will kill nearly everything on this earth ala global warming. Hail to the Thief - Radiohead.

C Mathews wow. This is very advanced knowledge. Gracias.

Well, i saw the European version in America on the first (and only) viewing. i wonder if there are Europeans who saw only the American version.

@@cmathews5909 brother, I hail thee! Brilliant piece of work there.

But why did Macha kill himself? What was there to gain for the Ego?

It was very methodical.

@Prince Avinash Marina your logic is shit, can't you see that the guy's hand was nailed to the table? he literally couldn't do any hand movements.

@@peanbean1613 do one thing, nail your hand and try to take it out, we will see whose logic is shit!😂

@@princeavinashmishra421 Try to do it yourself and you will see how shitty your logic is

Saul, this movie is an allegory on the central banking system and the economic reality of the world. Sorter represents squared away accountants, regulators and other professions that keep business practices clear for investors and stockholders . When they are not doing their job there is GREAT prosperity in the short term, but in the long term......think Enron. That said, these regulators loose their meekness and their efficacy are highest after economic treachery bolstered by new laws etc.... . The "one shot, one kill" Sorter scene followed by the henchman killing him off sums up reality pretty well - think the Great Recession only a decade after Enron (systemic fiscal Shenanigans). This behavior is the source of "Business Cycle" -(recessions/Depressions). So to answer your question, the killing of sorter is an allusion to agents of the central banking system (JAKE GREEN) killing regulation.

@@cmathews5909 his question was different though

@@MC1995xx fair enough. Again, Revolver is an allegory and Sorter represents government regulation, but today regulators are paid by the corporations they are suppose to govern. So, corporations have regulators under control, but when during major economic scandals or downturns that severely affect "main street America", then they display the same efficacy they show on foreign market competitors. The con is being played on our (boom, X,) generations but the costs of the con will be payed by the girl (generation X, Y and on). As we have witnessed from the Revolving actions of the past, regulators are the only people able to stop inevitable conclusion. If you still can't understand, this stuff is not for you.

It's up to us to intercept it however we want to to be honest, it's true they could have made it a bit less confusing with a line like "Sorter what are you doing?!", but given these people work together, you could imagine perhaps Sorter voiced his disagreement on the way there when they mentioned the guy had a daughter and they planned to use that against the father, and having heard Sorter's gun fire and seen the other henchmen dead, it's within reason for him to assume Sorter went rogue because of the girl.

It was the driver whose name is Lou, he alerted everyone about Sorter's betrayal and protection for the girl bc in the original version he sneaked into the house and saw everything.

Which one?

No shit sherlock

I think it is cut in some versions.

That's not the version where he gets shot by the henchman Lou.

Yeah trying to find the scene where Sorter is killed.

Sorter dies in both versions, because the last surviving henchman manage to take the girl to Macha. As for Billy, he survives. There are two different versions which could have been brought up together. I've also made a theory. kzhead.info/sun/pbt7m66yjHRroZE/bejne.html

@@mafiosoman3891 thanks, I read there are 3 versions, each shorter for the US market, sadly

@@mafiosoman3891 wait, Sorter doesnt die in the cut version, nothing in the movie after suggests that. You say it cause you know its just a cut version of the original, but if you live it like that to a virgin that never access internet, he walks away from the cinema with "Sorter survived"

@@luisbezerrak6727 No, he dies in the cut version too except they cut his death out, probably because they felt sympathy for the character. Otherwise how did the henchman manage to take the girl to Macha?

@@luisbezerrak6727 But at some point you are right, they shouldn't have trimmed down the most importance parts of the scene, I personally think they've messed it up by having two different versions, should have all in one, that would make more sense for us viewers to understand.

not-so-great film? This is his best movie and one of the best movies ever made regarding the story and understanding of the ego. I don't know why this movie has 6.4 rating on IMDB. What is wrong with you people?

@@zajimkujovic7885 It's as pretentious as it is overcomplicated, and covered in kabbalistic bullshit to boot.

He keeps doing his things: Rock'n'Rolla has the same style of the first two films (many characters, dialogs, a non linear plot, etc), maybe not so good; The Man from Uncle is a really good movie and now he's making Gentleman, I think it's also in his original "British" style.

@@zajimkujovic7885 People rate silly TV series like Vampire Diaries and Originals higher than good movies, most of the people are dumb. There are other great movies that are rated lower than they deserve. What is wrong with people? People are stupid and annoying - they like these dumb an irritating pseudo-celebrities like Kardashians and other no-good cunts like that. They listen to dumb pop music and don't read, don't think - they just consume. They don't see the difference between what's good and what's shit.

The film is 10000% great. Big lessons about the mind, the Control of It and the ego.