How to save a bad paint job! Diy Autobody, orange peel, colorsand
How to save a bad paint job! Diy Autobody. orange peel, colorsand. How to color sand properly and remove dry spray, orange peel and dirt. Making it look better then a factory finish.
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Most important thing to me is you understand how we feel and I appreciate your comforting personality. Thank you for teaching us this. Made my day.
You are so welcome! I appreciate your comment and support!
You rock. I’m dealing with the same thing. You don’t need the background music. No one, ever, says, man I wish that how-to video had music in it. Never happened. As a creator, you want it to be more attractive in every aspect. As a sound engineer, who is literally addicted to music, I’ll be the first to tell you how golden silence can be. Not so much silence itself, just less distraction from your words and even the content when you aren’t speaking
I've pretty much come to that conclusion about the music as well. I appreciate the comment and support!
Thanks for the info and taking the time to put it here. I'm 85 yr. old and haven't painted a car in 35 years. Got a truck that needs some cosmetic work, so been watching u-tube to learn the changes that have been developed---- and WOW!!! 3000 grit paper!!! I once used 600 and thought it cut about as good as a piece of "waxed paper"
It's a different game today a lot of great tools and materials. Appreciate the comment and!
This is exactly what I needed and couldn’t have come at a better time. I really owe ya a beer! ‘Cause this is awesome. Thanks for sharing.
Cool brother, happy it helped! Thanks for watching and commenting
Now I don't feel as bad 😆 thanks Chris got one I gotta fix in the morning
This is EXACTLY what I've looked for for years! Thank you so much!!!
Great! If that one helped this one might as well updated version. kzhead.info/sun/g9KDoshtnJOad2w/bejne.html. Thanks for the comment!
@@GarageNoise yoo, can i do this on only paint? without clear coat
or you doing here without clear too??
@@KrC_Games That’s called single stage paint; a lot of older cars used it. I’d look into that
@@kylet3390 i mean i did not apllied clear coat yet, cause i used spray gun first time ever and did a mistake by over spraying, but it does looks decent, so i think i can use this method that's in this video?
Brilliant video once again, thank you! And you are so correct, no other painting KZheadr would be as honest about mistakes like you are. That makes you so much better in my eyes.
Mistakes are a blessing, it's the best opportunity learn and grow.
Great video. Will help me a lot fixing the crappy spray job I just applied. Thank you for sharing.
Wow! Great video! Nice job ! Just the video I've been searching for! Tks man !
Thanks! I truly appreciate the time you took to make this.
Great helpful vid and no irritating music..thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Awesome video really helpful!
Excellent video Sir! Been struggling with my old Bentley for ages and this is the answer! Thank you
Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe!
Dude. THANKS. Just a lot of big thanks to you. This videos help a lot
Awesome! Happy to hear this helped! Don't forget to subscribe it will help the channel!
Turned out real nice Chris, I think it’s cool that you’re showing the jobs that don’t come out clean and how to fix the problem. 👍🏽
Thank you for a great video! That was very informative.
Thanks for the comment!
Thank you for the video great work surely helping me out today!
Your welcome and thanks for commenting !
Your a life saver mate.
I’m thinking you have helped me save a base coat clear coat paint job and yes it was my first one. Amazing info I can’t wait to try. Thanks so much and this was great 👍
Thanks, I appreciate it! If your doing some more painting check out my other videos and don't forget to subscribe.
Thanks for all the good tips 👍
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Brother I need to do the same thing to my truck. Orange peel all over. It gives me some me confidence now watching ur video.
Great job my friend
I am LOVING this video! Just what I need to fix my "textured" base coat...
Thank's ! I'm happy it was helpful. I appreciate the comment and support.
I painted the drivers door on my Mercedes SLK yesterday and the result was disappointing. However, it's mainly just because the clear coat I used was so underwhelming and lacking in shine. Having seen what you achieved with the two stage wet sand and then good polish, I am 100% confident I can get a much better result, when I re-address the job tomorrow. Thanks so much!
Great job
Perfect result. . thanks for the video and explanation, we want more 👍👍👍
As long as your watching I'll keep them coming!
This is what I need a little bit long on explaining stuff more than once. But it was worth it thanks
We all have had less than desirable results. Great video showing this, and what to do to repair it.
Appreciate the support!
Best auto paint channel around!
Thank's brother! Appreciate the support!
Excellent video....you are great at explaining everything. Much appreciated....I'm going to try it on a bad paint job that came with my 67 beetle.
Thank you so much, I hope it does the trick!
Very helpful thank you
You're welcome!
I just had some panels come out like that. I was using high solid clear and a new gun I was trying instead of my trusty W400(which I know how to set up for clear and it doesn't let me down). Bur the dust specs...always. no matter how much I clean, tack, wet floor.... But bad orange peel, texture, bleah! That does not make me happy! I ended up sanding the panels and flow coating with the W400. Still gotta denib. Still gonna buff. But what a difference going back to my normal gun. I need to stick with what works. This is a good video, putting a problem filled job out there. Things happen and this shows it can happen to anyone and its not the end of the world👍
Sir thanks for the reality video. It helped so much.
Always welcome
Nice repair of the repair!
Very helpful! Thanks for sharing the embarrassing stuff so we can learn.
My pleasure!
Thank you so much .
Exellent job....
Thx just what I was looking for well done look forward to more tips
Thanks brother!
I painted the hood with rattle cans. The fender. Came out beautifully. The hood to until I try to get a fly out of my job.
Now im ready to colour sand and buff. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic. It's even better for me because I have the same problem with the same color
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Thanks for the video. 👍
Thanks, for comment!
Great job I learn something 👍
Thanks brother!
Thanks for sharing mistakes too. To show humanity is to give humanity!!
Absolutely!
Thanks so much that will help me alot 😊 thanks brother
Happy to help! Appreciate the comment and support!
Just found your channel and subscribed, great job and information. Goes back to the old saying, "the difference between a journeyman and a craftsman is a journey knows how to fix his mistakes, a craftsman knows how to fix them before anyone sees them. Point is stuff happens all the time, knowing how to fix the problem is what makes one a pro, and in my humble opinion, that you are my man! Thanks for the great video, please keep them coming.
Your totally right half the battle is knowing how to overcome obstacles. Then once you can overcome them you quickly learn how to avoid them! Welcome to the channel! I appreciate the support!
@@GarageNoise Thanks for the welcome, forgot to hit the like button and notification bell, just clicked and rung that bell. Hope that helps your YT algorithms.
@@DavidSmith-cb9yo Thank's brother!
Thanks for the video..
You welcome and thank's for the support!
@@GarageNoise Yea Sir!
awesome!
Gd man just did a bumper and the wind appeared from no where as soon as I mixed clear lol.. resulting in this same finish was pretty imbarrased. Will be doing exactly this to hopefully save it :) it's all about learning and improving.. thanks dude just earnt a new sub.
Welcome to the channel! Appreciate the support there's always an opportunity for hobbiest or pro to build your skill!
nice job
Thanks!
Nice work! What a difference!
My paint job was awesome. But then a fly flew in my work and trying to get it out opened a can of worms.
Thanks I had a great look from the clear but the plastic touched it ,I just started over but now I know
Will try this - got hit with the dreaded orange peel monster.
It happens
I am glad I am not the only one...
It happens!
This Video is awesome. Thanks for sharing. Would this work on metallic finishes as well?
Yes as long as it's base coat / clearcoat and not single stage.
You did a real good job on now that what you after I watched your video I ain't nobody working 25-30 years how long by work working in the backyard plus out of the drywall hanger and finisher for 35 years anybody can do that can you paint it
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Great detailed vided,. Could you comment on what polishing compound you use. Thanks in advance...
I've really become a big fan of CSI compound. They use less filler so when it's buffed it's buffed it doesn't just hide those fine scratches.
Wow, incredible paint work‼️ I took my SUV to shop and he didn’t do a good paint job on my entire ‘19 highlander. I don’t have that orange peel, just on couple small areas. it’s missing that glossy/brightness look like yours. after watching your video now I have high HOPE.am just a beginner but can definitely follow your video. this will save me lots of money!!THANK YOU 🙏🏼 🙏🏼
Thanks for the comment! Happy to help, let me know if you have a question along the way. Remember you can sand thru the clear. If your orange peel isn't to bad i would recommend starting with 2000 grit wet sand paper.
How many coats of clear coat did you apply before the sanding & polishing? Superb job & instructions…thanks for letting me know how to save a paint job that I thought may have needed repainting…you saved me lots of money my & hours!! Thank you!
It was two coats of clear. Your welcome appreciate the support!
Awesome video thank you! Would the process be the same for painted plastic ABS?
Yes it would, thanks for the support!
Wow great job thanks for sharing. Cause most f us have these problems but no one posts it. Will this same technique work with ingle stage paint as well with same instructions? thanks
Not on metallics, maybe a solid color single stage, but it will destort metallics without a clearcoat to sand.
This is good to see now that is orange Peele, your right about anyone not showing to much orange peel my ? Is with that amount of orange peel do you think you could of used a 1000 grit depending on how much clear you put on the other thing was that was a big jump from 1500 to 3000 didnt know thank you for this video
You could start with1000 or 1200 . I start now with 2000 then move to 3000.
Do you sand it after the clear coat or before it when u see the dust and orange peel?
Did your paint have a metal flake to it? You're right the reflection did make it kind of hard to see the paint it came out so shiny and smooth. And if you mentioned the type of paint job you did in the video, I apologize, I missed it. Thanks for sharing your way of cleaning up the paint.
Yes, my paint had metal flake thanks for the comment.
Excellent video brother. I do have question, How do you fix bumpy paint jobs? Much appreciated and blessings from Los Angeles ✌
By bumpy do you mean trash ot orange peel or something else? If you have clear you should be able to wet sand and buff it out.
What compound you use at the end to buff it out here in England we have T cut can I use that
Thanks a lot . This helps! Planning to do the same this weekend. Just a question... My car door paint is a bit dark from the stock paint (30 percentage darker) . Can I make it dull by using sand paper (1500 grid)? Will this work ? Appreciate your expertise feedback. Thanks.
Unfortunately no , color sanding or wet sanding will not change the color of the paint. The way to fix this would be to blend into the adjacent panels with color and clear those panels. Thanks for comment!
Wow
Dude, that’s amazing! I hava a question tho. My car was repainted like 2 years ago and now I think it’s time to make it shine since it has a looot of orange peel. I’d do the sanding proccess and then use a compound with a cutting disc? Or a polishing compound with a polishing disc would be enough? Thanks in advance
If you finish sanding with 3000 or 5000 then you should be able to use a polish with a mild cut rating along with a polishing foam pad.
@@GarageNoise thanks! would you recommend skipping the 5000 sanding stage and going with a cutting disc with compound instead? Or that final sanding step is completely neccesary to achieve that glossy finish?
Going to try and save my Focus bumper I've painted myself. The orange peel I have is real bad. Great video, I don't feel ashamed anymore
It happens to the best of us. “ Many times what we perceive as an error or failure is actually a gift. And eventually we find that lessons learned from that discouraging experience prove to be of great worth. Richelle E.
Hey, Great job. After buffing, should we put clear coat or it is fine to leave after this stage?
Your done after you buff it
hello i tried spray painting my quarter panel on my corolla the outside temperature was cold and the spray paint was horrible i may try rhis ty ..philip.
Will this work on a single stage job also?
Nice work! Do I sand after applying both the colour and clear coat or just the colour coat?
After the clearcoat only
@@GarageNoise Thank mate. Will try it out.
Awsome! I just painted my car mattblack and got some rough parts and orange peel, i asume i should wetsand down before putting of the clearcoat (mattcoat), is there anything that seperates sanding down matt and the finish you just did here? Also, is there cleatcoat on the side you fixed or is it just the paint? Thanks again for a video that gave me faith in what i just did!
If you want your paint a matte finish meaning you don't want the finished product to have gloss . If that's the case you cannot wet sand and or buff it. It needs to be sanded smooth and re-sprayed . I hope this helps if you have any other questions let me know thanks for the comment don't forget to subscribe!
@@GarageNoise Hi and thank you so much for a quick response. I see, so since i want the matte finish, i can not sand or buff, i need to sand it down and repaint it, I guess i don't put a matte coat over it after that aswell? Subscribed!
Yes you are correct that if you want it matte you can't sand it and buff because that will give it a shine in the area you buff.
@@GarageNoise thank you, so, so much! You just saved me a lot of time!
So if I shot a rough base coat, is it better to go ahead & shoot clear over that & then use your method. Or can I use your method on a base coat as well? God Bless you even if you don't answer, I have a ton of appreciation for You & all the GN Educational Videos. Thank You!
I would clear and correct it after. Appreciate your comment and support!
@@GarageNoise Your generosity & kindness will not go unpaid Chris. Thank's for being so cool & of course, thanks for your willingness to share the secrets of your very difficult craft. Even after studying for weeks it's so easy to totally blow it. I've been spraying houses my whole life & I still got a damn orange peel on my truck base coat....frustrating but fixable, thanks to you.
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What color finishing pad do you recommend to use After the 5000 sandpaper. What brand?
Use the grey/black ,I don't have a particular brand that I use.
I had the same problem and I did it like you should. But instead of a nice shine it all looks dull no matter how how I polish it idk why
I need your help! I painted my car matt black and the left side is perfect but on the right the door looks brighter that the rear panel but matches perfect with the front
Ok, some matte paint has different levels of sheen depending on how you mix it. Meaning the more catalyst you add the glossier the sheen. What brand paint did you use? The nice thing with matte black its verry easy to re shoot an side or panel.is there anything you did differently from side to side?
Great video. I'm surprised you started with 1500 grit over 1200 or a 1000. Is that because it was still soft? I'm doing my first paint job with POR15 2k Urethane... I got the temp too hot on the first coat and it was drying too fast without leveling out. It's bit worse than yours but I'm feeling confident about fixing it with an aggressive cut and buff.
Just a preference, I like to keep scatches as fine as possible.
Just a quick question. When you transitioned to your DA for the finer grits, did you use water or dry sand?
I basically dry sand everything. The only time I wet sand is when I cutt and buff clear. That is just what I've found works best for me.
Can anything like this be done with a single stage paint which came out the same way? Can it be made smooth then clear coated possibly if not?
Only if it's a solid color with no metallics otherwise it will effect the orientation of the metallics .
@@GarageNoise Yes its a single color gloss black with no particulates or flake in it. Thanks for the feedback!
My paint job has a loott of orange peel: like your red truck. So you sanded all the way to 5000, then used the black pad with Wizard's compound? Just trying to get that sequence right. I think Ill try that. Thanks again!
Yes that's right
It definitely helped ME out !!😊
Glad it helped!
Just wondering wouldn't a 3000 grit sand paper be good enough to buff after? Thank you
Absolutely, even the 2000 could be buffed. I really just like to limit the buffing time with a finer scratch. Appreciate the comment and support!
Does the clear die back, because you buffed it too soon? How many coats did you give it?? Three good coats to sand the clear coat, to give it a moderate sand and buff it a second time??
No buffing has no effect on die back. Die back has application or the clear coat. Two good coats is sufficient to wet sand and buff. This had two. You should oly have to sand it once in this process. Hope this helps,appreciate the support!
I wish my paint job did look that good. I had tape marks, the paint was too dark and you still see little putty marks. I gave myself a D-. I will not give up. I will try again today.
Yeah don't give up! Preperation is the key. I have some other videos that might help you on your next attempt. Feel free to message me if have questions.
What pad and compound did you use after the 5000? Thanks
I use a soft foam pad. The soft is typically the black. 3m pad but if you buffing 5000 the brand doesn't really matter. I've switched over to wizards finish cut. I like it, doesn't leave so much filler behind . Good question,thanks for watching brother! amzn.to/3b9rSzO
If I paint my car outside where there's plenty of debris, should I wet sand the base coats as well or just apply all the coats and 2 clear coats and sand that?
I wouldn't just wet sand the basecoat. I would inspect the base coat between coats if you see a spec of dust let it dry and then dry sand the dust out with 600 and apply another coat of base then clear when it's covered and clean. Hope this helps appreciate the comment and support!
@@GarageNoise thank you so much for the reply, I was thinking that if I respray the base after sanding, I'll just get the same result with dust specs and who knows what else. Can I just do two layers of base and sand it with 1500 to 3000 to get rid of the contaminants and just spray clear coat over a sanded 3000 base? I'll have to be very creative since I am looking to paint it white and I'm thinking of fixing the defects by polishing alot. Thank you so much for the reply, awesome video.
Hello . What happens if the base has orange peel texture and clear has put on it? Someone painted my car and it has orange peel. I dont know if the base also has orange peel.
It will wet sand out with the clear.
Chris totally different from before that pal 😅
🤣 I just re watched part of that video, oh my I was new to KZhead And that was hard to watch I had to shut it off. Good info but so bad lol. Thanks for watching I appreciate the support.
@@GarageNoise Chris hope you're OK pal I have just painted a wing as there say in the UK 🇬🇧 United Kingdom 🇬🇧 or fender in the USA 🇺🇸 whats happened chris the base coat paint never realy came out right bit like that on the video so shall I just wet sand and buff it its for a young lad mate and the other day Chris painted a aftermarket bumper scuffed it down clean it used upol plastic primer and upol high build primer when I put the base coat paint on reacted all over any thoughts Chris I was before using Mipa base coat paint but switched paint supplier cos there could not get a colour match honnest Chris its been a headache mate 😊
I painted my car flat black with with spray cans and it turned out okay. It all laid down smooth and when I wet sanded it with 2000 grit and it made it smoother but there’s streaks all over the car. I know spray painting won’t be perfect but I’m on a budget and did it on the street outside of my house. Is it normal for it to have the streaks? It looks like the front door did on the truck you were painting but mine has obvious streaks of every motion when I sanded. Do I just need to sand it down with 5k on an orbital sander to make it 1 solid color?
First thing i need to know is what kind of paint you used? You said flat black, flat black is not designed to be wet sanded and buffed. Buffing shines it up. Thats most likely the problem your having. If you painted with an urethane enamel that can be wet sanded and polished.
@@GarageNoise I used rust oleum acrylic enamel. It said on the website it was for automotive. I tried wiping it down with clean rags and acetone before. About 30 minutes Ago I washed it with dawn soap and it got rid of the streaks but still looks a little chalky. At this point I don’t mind having a gloss on it, I just want it to look decent.
It looks chalky because it's flat black . If it was gloss black it wouldn't be chalky looking. Flat black looks good but know this , its not made to be polished. The only way to get rid of the calky look would be to respray it. Then don't wet sand and buff it. Sorry this is probably not what you want to hear but i hope this helps.
@@GarageNoise it’s exactly what I needed to hear, thank you. I think I’m going to just clear coat it.
Before you clear apply another coat of base or the milky look will be seen under the clear.
Will this work on single stage paint ?
Single stage you will be removing color not clear so it will effect the appearance of metallics and make it look blotchy. A solid color you can sometimes get away with it.
Should i start with a 1500 on an older paint job that has some orange peel and bird poop stains or should i use a 3000?
Older paint i would start with 2000 then 3000. If you start with 3000 it won't do much to help with scratch removal. You could try 1500 on a small area be careful tho it will be easier to sand thru a paint thats older.
how do you restore the original colour? cause the product was good but looked like a faded version of the original thanks
Did this happen on your vehicle, when you did the procedure i explained? Or are you referring to the vehicle in the video?
@@GarageNoise both happened, the paint became really dull compared to what the initial coat should look like
If you have clearcoat over your paint, color sanding will not effect the color. If your car is painted with single stage paint, meaning there is no clearcoat over the color then color sanding could effect the color. Even then if it's a solid color with no metallics then it should not change the color unless you wet sand thru the paint. If its a heavy metallic color single stage paint I would not wet sand it. A good way to tell if its single stage paint or not would be to buff a little. If color comes off on to the pad it has no clearcoat. Hope this helps thanks for watching and for the comment
My paint job turned out just like that, what did you use on the buffer ?
Medium cut foam pad, 3m perfect it ex compound
@@GarageNoise I ended up using Mothers, turned out really good for a paint job I had done outside, not flawless but hey when you have to work with what you have. Some place I could send a pic ?
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How do you know if you sand through the clear coat?
You'll see a discoloration in that spot.
What kind of polish did you use
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My question is: did you paint and then Clear Coat and then start this Project? I can’t tell if the paint job was bad or was the Clear Coat bad ?
It was the clear. Heavy orange peel.