Bryan Kohberger Says He Was Stargazing During Idaho Student Murders
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#BryanKohberger's Defense claims the defendant was driving late at night "stargazing". Plus, Court TV's #VinniePolitan tracks Kohberger's alleged movements the night four University of Idaho students were murdered.
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Dumb
I think your panel was very technically weak. I expected the digital forensics "expert" to say that raw cell phone data used by the defense should be given to the defense and confirmed by the cell phone company that this is the complete data set.
Being too far away from the crime is a simple alibi. When your alibi involves being alone you have to hope that an expert can prove it when the police concluded that “they couldn’t track his phone, therefore most likely he turned it off to conceal his whereabouts before driving his own car to the house of some people he had been stalking”… Well so far the car has no victim or suspect DNA in it and the suspect didn’t stalk the victims of the crime… That’s Zero for 2 to the prosecution. Now we hear that as the PCA even states, the possibility exists that his phone was not in a mobile service area or in aeroplane mode. The accused has an expert that’s reviewed the phone data himself (in line of the prosecution or FBI being forthcoming with the CAST report) and the defence expert is saying, the GPS data is there, the accused was in a no mobile service area and the GPS data is in at least one photo he took. Further to this, the prosecution has either been aware of this and concealing exculpatory evidence or has intentionally removed/failed to preserve this exculpatory evidence from their reporting so far. I guess the prosecution has time to conveniently find it and add it to the final report that has been withheld ad nauseam. So far we are looking like the prosecution is Zero for 3
I think and have always thought, This Man is Guilty
@@mindygladsden3048 and it’s people like yourself that decide on the basis of their first impressions that are the reason that jury selection takes much longer these days and void dire is an important part of that selection. Guilt is not found in the appearance of an individual. Guilt is to be proven by the prosecution during trial using evidence that leaves no reasonable doubt
Why turn his phone off in the middle of the night, while he was, "Stargazing?" Does he get lot's of annoying calls in the middle of the night? Get real.
The area he was in has mountains - the park is in a valley.
He didn’t. It died until he got back in his car.
He said his phone died
My battery is low all the time and if I forget my charger I turn if off until I need it or can charge it. You don't need to waste the battery in the middle of the night when you are not expecting any calls. Get real.
@@jlmann8109 that should be easily proven or disproven based on his cell phone data. It should indicate the exact time the phone died due to the battery dying. Let's see what comes out in trial.
The smoking gun moment, two years later, stargazing! 😂 Witness ET 👽
That made me laugh out loud !! 😂ET
I just pictured a young drew barrymore riding on a bike over Kohbergers head
I bet if your surveyed murders many would also say star gazing is nice. Their defense is so dumb
😆😆😆
With no witnesses to said activity .
Stargazing? 😂😂😂 He might as well have claimed "I was daydreaming, but at night, your honor"
did you miss the part " his cell record will confirm his alibi and the 20+ yrs expert witness can testify in court"??? sure.. lets pretend its only a "Crazy Stargazing Alibi" 🤣
@@karaMcg1122I’m going to bookmark this comment so I can come back to you when he’s convicted.
@@karaMcg1122What is your point? A defense attorney can say anything. That doesnt mean it’s truthful
😂🤣
@@Cheesecurd2011 false. thats illegal🤣
Is he going to call Jupiter 🪐 as a witness?! 😂
You’re gravely mistaken. Not Jupiter. Uranus
@@kr1s72 nope, the man in the moon
🛸 👽
Tefillin, says saturn.
@Kay I think he will!
Stargazing whilst doing circles in his car around their home. The jury will love that part.
Defense gets paid by the hour
@@arizonadreaming4183 Ann Taylor is a public defender she's on a fixed salary (approx $120,000 a year)
😂😂😂😂yep right
followed up by.....in middle of the night, re washing his car, putting trash in baggies, and placing the trash in the neighbors trash can? in. the. middle. of. the. night. lol what a sociopath
@@alexperkins8433why do you keep repeating this nonsense? None of that happened until 2 months later. His car was filthy in the body cam footage. Have you seen the weird laws they have in that HOA regarding trash? They have to bag batteries etc. I’ve put my trash in my neighbor’s if mine was full (as they do mine). Being weird is one thing. Being a sociopath capable of this level of violence is completely another. Stop it
The fact that you still have Gray Hughes on is so concerning. The man is straight up abusive. So abusive that he had to delete his live Stream today because the things that came out of his mouth were so awful. He called one of his members mentally ill and bipolar because the person asked why the viewers had to donate right from the start instead of during the show. Gray went into a total rant where his yelled and screamed and called the member the most degrading names. Gray is in this for the money and only the money and if anyone questions him, you get an ear full and then you get blocked. His goal is to cash in at least $250 on every live stream (he even has a bar showing the numbers) and if that isn’t reached all hell is loss. Just think about it, he DELETED the live stream, because what he said was so bad. Please stop using him on Court TV or do you condone verbal abuse? I know a lot of people feel the same way I do, just scroll through the comments. Gray Hughes is giving Court TV a very bad look!
I agree. GH is a nasty piece of work.
oh noe a man on the internet wants money and hurts feelings? cry some more.
Agreed 💯
He's NOT properly Socialized. He has the Social/Mental Maturity of a 9 year old... He's NOT Normal..
Wow…sounds just like my ex bf 😳 Anything for money n infamy, but for some bizarre reason, people still put him on a pedestal.
Gray Hughes makes a lot of assumptions that make him look stupid.
Gary is just dumb…period and greedy!
Lancey-Pants is a Doooosh !!!
LANCE is a Socially Stunted - Bitter - Selfish abuser of the very people that watch him - then he askes for MONEY !!
@@marymarr3 He is just an unemployed you tuber, who happens to know how to use google maps!
Exactly, he gaslights his audience into thinking speculation is fact.
Who cares what Gray thinks
and the same could be said for your comment. I actually know what I am talking about. You will see that whenever this goes to trial. bye.
@grayhughesinvestigates People don't dislike you for your theories, its because you are rude, abusive, angry and threatening to your listeners for money. Your charities don't make up for your personal behavior. Not one group allows you around!
@@GrayHughesInvestigates how many times have you flip flopped on your theories, yet you act like you know everything. Lmfao, whiny baby.
@grayhughesinvestigates you think you know what your talking about but all you do is play with a computer pretending to solve crimes. You are a concerted know all know nothing.
Not even his wife cares lol! She is probably sucking a dude in a 3rd world country rn
Please stop inviting Gray Hughes on your program. He's a toxic and verbally abusive streamer with no special insight.
👍🏻
I agree. He is getting lots of attention lately for his speculations that he backs up by creating little videos that he claims ‘prove’ his point…although they are proof of nothing.
I agree he acts like he's an expert witness.
Some investigator. Why didn’t GH pick up on the fact that Vinnie is pointedly NOT saying the defendant’s name. 🤦♀️
He invites himself!
@Court TV associating with another KZheadr that is abusive is condoning his behavior! The only negative comments about a guest you have on, I see, are about Gray Hughes!
Gary Hughes Investigates is a bum .. wtf is he doing on court tv 😂😂
Thank you!
@@GrayHughesInvestigates Yw Mr. Bias. Keep up the terrible work 🫡
He's terrible I agree
@@GrayHughesInvestigates you are the most abusive piece of s*it and you deleted your stream because you called one of your members mentally ill😡but the internet doesn’t forget!
@@Danish_girlhe also deleted it because he accused court TV of causing him to not make enough money tonight!
Court Tv knows about Gray Hughe's behavior because they've been in his live chats every night for the past week so they must condone the abuse.
It’s horrible. Who you hang with is who you are.
Absolutely Court TV knows about Hughes behavior. Court TV makes appearances in his chat often. Disgusting behavior to have Hughes on a panel that he doesn't deserve nor have the qualifications for.
If you ask me, that Vinny guy looks like a rapist. Something even more wrong with that guy
They like the comments from people…
You seem jealous @CatalinaFOIA
Gray Hughes is a jerk.
Thank you for the kind words
You are never kind to anyone not even people who send you their hard earned money!
@@GrayHughesInvestigatesegomaniac
@@GrayHughesInvestigates look at all the comments ridiculing you. almost half of the entire section is devoted to your offensive behavior! LOL
You think Gray would do one show without begging and insulting. He cant, its an addiction like running his mouth. Every night he repeats himself for three hours like a tape recording.
Why do you keep putting Gray Hughes on your show? He’s a clown
Something real weird between these 2 imo I can't watch when he puts Hughes on and I'm slowly moving away from Vinnie.
Court tv is for entertainment purposes only, and Hughes is a clown 🤡.
Yeah something suspicious going on here with Hughes.
OH NO! 😮 Vinnie didn't provide the whiners, crybabies and snowflakes with a safespace!? You guys are weird enough and probably should just lay off the true crime genre, ya'll might become permanently traumatized and end up with PTSD! ❄ ❄
@@Christina-71 < oh look it's >'I don't have an original thought of my own Christina' lmao
If COURT TV continues to bring on GH you are going to lose many MANY viewers. Perhaps invite Stephanie Harlowe. She is the real deal & does her homework before reporting on any subject.
Agreed. GRAY Hurts The Credibility of Court TV. Guess they Need Content..
Or invite Giesla from Grizzly true crime, she is amazing!
@@Danish_girl Yes - Shes a SWEETHEART & A Very Good "True-Crime" KZhead Creator.. Go Grizzlys !
@@spaghetti.lee-69 absolutely my favourite. She she matter of fact, respectful and just a sweet soul. So I am definitely a GRIZZLY ❤
No more begging Gray Hughes forcing his freaks to donate to him and his tax write off charities! Let him go to the Philippines and try that 💩.
Do you notice that there are never any negative comments against any of your other guest? Yet Gray Hughes is commented about every time he’s on your show by hundreds of people because of his behavior. Doesn’t this give you pause to think about why that is? I know many people that have left your channel because you have that abusive lying greedy horrible excuse for a person on your show.
That’s probably what they want. The comments…
Why is he greedy and what’s wrong with this guy? I’ve never heard of him. What makes him uncredited?
@@beebee337 OMG - Go watch.. Wonder why the Comment section is " Lit-up" ?? Gray is A Horrible Person..
hes going straight to the chair
@showstopas HOPEFULLY!
Actually a firing squad
No he’s not.
Looks like he could be walking out..
Could that actually happen?? If he gets the death penalty what would it likely be??
I’m glad his alibi is crazy because the jury will find it as crazy as we do. 😂
What is so crazy about star gazing? My college age son does the same when he wants to clear his mind and unplug. You should try it some time.
So jury will find crazy when defense expert who has tracked terror operation and other investigations for years?? He did not shut his phone. These prosecutors investigators were inept clearly. This case has been shady from day1, everyone knows it by now. So you can determine victims unalivings from "surviving roommates" phones But you can not use the actual bacround Metadata, most efficient thing existing to determine an alibi 😄 The hypocricity of the media is ridiculous! Defense expert has tracked terror operations. Lets see what "lead detective" Payne has tracked!! Drunk college adults on their own property..😉
Nothing crazy about star-gazing per se. But doing it when no stars are visible makes no sense. It was overcast with a waning moon that night. Were you paying attention to the show at all?
@@jlmann8109 There's no way he's stargazing on an overcast night when it's foggy and cold as balls out. Maybe going for a very short jog, but his phone was pinging all over the place nowhere near there, too, so what's his excuse then?
@@jlmann8109 True! Nothing _IS_ crazy about star gazing...but pray tell how do you do that on a night that you can't see the stars?
If the stargazing defence doesn't work, I am predicting sleep walking next 😬😂 pathetic 🤷
Um, my college age son stargazes at night in order to unplug. Is he pathetic too?
@@jlmann8109 no, the activity itself isn't pathetic. Using it as defence is.
@@agnieszkamajewska4254 well be a lie to say other wise if that is what he was doing that day that is what he was doing 🤷
@@emlove256 So much noise and commotion (major LE incident) was going on just outside his apartment building exactly at that time- it isn't too far fetched that he would want to get away from it all and go for a drive.
Mann kohberger nice last names, fellow Whites.
why does that guy always wear a hat inside? for an older guy he doesn't appear to have been taught manners growing up.
he never grew up at all. Have you heard his Whiney - Baby voices he uses to MOCK PEOPLE with ?? Thats NOT an Adult.
@@marymarr3 the hat is so tight he has to really strain just to blink 🤣
@@marymarr3 Is the vizor to hold up his toupee? Asking for a friend.
Great show Vinnie! But, once again I have concerns because GH was on for at least 30 mins without begging for superchats! This is soul crushing!!! We cannot have a massive LULL like this freaks! You better dip into that social security tonight and make up for the MASSIVE lull he just had to endure! Stop allowing him to milk the same handful of people for every last dime they have, it's shameful! Say no to LULLS!!!
GH is the biggest clown and they bring him on .. I don't get it 🤣🤣
He blamed court tv for only making 200 an hour tonight to verbally abuse his listeners. He deleted the live of course so they didn’t see it. He also called them all clowns a couple wks ago. He cares about money and only money!
@@lyley3309 I heard, didn’t see it though. He’s a chronic lil deleter. Always trying to erase his petulant, childish mistakes instead of owning them like a man with dignity.
So well said. I just made a lengthy comment about his abuse. I hope Court TV, opens their eyes soon. It makes them look so bad!
" and once again we've got a Massive Lull " - LOSER !!
34:24...and Gray Hughes was chased off of that exact carport/porch area by a resident while trespassing & filming😏
hes a TROLL !!!!!! & A Dooooosh !!
That was hilarious ! Ol Grey pussed out
@@tonystevenson26 he did run like a lil bish didn't he 😂
Gray is a complete coward unless he is safe behind his keyboard. His is like his bio dad, sick in the head.
😂 He sure was! "I'm not giving you my phone" Landlord: "What cha' doin', where ya goin'" Gray books it out of there to later call 911 (allegedly). 😂 When Gray was the one trespassing on PRIVATE property.
For real?! I can really say I've heard it all now 😂
Gray is a goose he only knows how things work on a computer not things in reality.
The Grim Reaper, howling at the moon
did you miss the part " his cell record will confirm his alibi and the 20+ yrs expert witness can testify in court"??? sure.. lets pretend its only a "Crazy Stargazing Alibi" 😂
@WalpNacht Yes I'm sure that the original investigators never checked his cell phone records. Get real.
😂😂😂😂
Stargazing 🤩 Now I've heard it all 😅
Exactly! I mean REALLY?!?! THAT is your alibi? 😂😂😂😂😂
@@sunshinegal4294 would you have been happy if he said he was at home sleeping? No, you'll probably find faults in that as well. I think people need to just stop spreading lies and only report on facts and wait until the trial.
@@somboaruna "I was at home sleeping, but I leave my keys in my car beneath the visor so I don't misplace them, and I leave the doors unlocked. I also had left my phone in the car that night." Is a far better alibi than, "Oh I went stargazing on an overcast night that was cold as balls in a closed state park, conveniently in the exact opposite direction four youths were brutally slain by someone driving the exact same car."
Have you read thedumlat though?
On a cloudy night!
He was also Stargazing that late December night when he decided to clean the inside of his car at 4 am in rural ,Pennsylvania. That's why he walked the distance of over a 1/4 of a mile (Google Maps) to toss and conceal the rags and towels in the neighbours trash bins despite the fact there were trash cans on his parents property only 15 feet away . That was videotaped by Pennsylvania State Police who had him under surveillance. Just wait until the jury see's that. Hell even his own sister suspected him of being involved in the murders
It doesn’t prove that his hand was on the weapon as it ended the lives of four people though. Do we even have proof these four are deceased? Police didn’t have to go to PA to get his dna. This case is not normal.
The thought of this man getting away with these horrific crimes is almost unbearable! The evidence seems so obvious it’s him, and yet he is being defended
It's his right to get defended and everyone should have that because imagine if it was you or a family member But this Defence is outright laughable. He knows he's toast if this is the best they could muster
He's going to be convicted, I have no doubt the state has a lot of evidence against him.
an innocent man actually has the right to prove his innocence. crazy right?
@@SherlockHs1 But does a guilty man (if that were the case and in this circumstance would be a mass murderer) have a right to get off and not be held accountable for these heinous crimes due to a bogus defence and a team of people that don't care less about holding him accountable and obtaining justice for the victims and their loved ones? That is a risk to society and that is not justice. That is the point.
@@SherlockHs1So innocent that his DNA is inside of the victim’s home on a sheath; while he’s “driving around stargazing”.
not to mention, if they had a strong albi . would he be out of jail already , instead of waiting for trial..
That’s not true. There are people with alibi witnesses that sit in jail until trial.
Prosecutor is a coward imo. Defense should have had preliminary hearing but bad santa got coward ways and hampers defense work. He did not shut his phone. These prosecutors investigators were inept clearly. This case has been shady from day1, everyone knows it by now. So you can determine victims unalivings from "surviving roommates" phones But you can not use the actual bacround Metadata, most efficient thing existing to determine an alibi 😄 The hypocricity of the media is ridiculous! Defense expert has tracked terror operations. Lets see what "lead detective" Payne has tracked!! Drunk college adults on their own property..😉
@@JohannaTx- I mean, what metadata are we talking about here? Did he take photos of the location while "stargazing"? You can alter those by hand. The digital forensics will prove his alibi to be a lie, don't worry, because those edits will show up, too.
@@cje886 Go check out this expert. You find him in his own podcast 😉 He a A Boss. He should have investigated this idaho4 case shady mess. Sy has investigated terror and criminal tracking cases. People need to admit that very beginning, they purposly or just inept investigators contaminated that crime scene complitely.
@@cje886 So you actually come here to comment digital forensics But then you dont know what are you talking about?? Why not educate yourself and check what backround Metadata, Geoblending means. And he did not shut his phone, he just was not in that area. It says in the PCA, phone is off, airplaine mode or not in reach distance. And if his phone battery went off or coverage is bad in that rural area. That is why there is devices backround metadata yo use. They still track you, and i mean Apps. Too bad this expert was not in idaho4 case from the beginning. Victims got inept investigation. That is not true justice. Besides ISP framed a doctor in Bonners Ferry at 2020. Same lead investigator there. Tolleson and also some woman i dont remember now. Uihh..
When you put GH next to qualified, real experts who speak intelligently and he’s sitting there blinking and fumbling his words then ends up saying nothing at all or repeating just what the host has already said… we are reminded of why he is only a “true crime you tuber” 😂😂
Check out what the weather was that night. If it was cloudy then there weren’t any stars or moon to gaze at lol
I've checked and from 12am to 6am it was patchy freezing fog, overcast in places and -6. Not the best "Stargazing" conditions
I see the moon and stars on cloudy nights all the time, have none of you ever been outside? The clouds move, you might want to take a grade school class on weather. 🙄
@@KevinVenturePhilippineswhen was the last time you drove to closed-off park grounds at 4:00 am in freezing temperatures on a night where conditions are clearly less than ideal to see them? not quite the same as «i saw the moon when it was cloudy.»
@@theconiferoust9598 A few months ago when it was cold. Drove out just like that, middle or of the night, to see the November Leonids meteor shower, possibly like he did that November. Less city shine out there. And I saw other people. It's more popular to do than any of you know, obviously.
@@KevinVenturePhilippines brb, gonna look up murders around that time. ill get back to you if i come across anything, stay put in the meantime. :)
Which Elantra, the 2011-2013? Or the one that changed after they found out about Kohberger to a 2015 plus?
Zero visibility to see the stars in Moscow, Idaho November 13, 2022. Overcast. Fog. Snow.
That was my question👍weather that night
@@pattil7947 i was shocked when they said he claims that he was stargazing, and there was basically no visibility that morning! That's CRUCIAL INFORMATION FOR THE JURY!!! He just keeps digging his "grave" deeper and deeper, everytime his arrogant mind speaks. He's a dumb monster. He's not an expert Thank goodness.
did you miss the part " his cell record will confirm his alibi and the 20+ yrs expert witness can testify in court"??? sure.. lets pretend its only a "Crazy Stargazing Alibi" 😂
@@karaMcg1122 .
Wow, you are absolutely right. I looked it up.
Morgan and Hughes have both already said they think Kohberger is guilty, so their opinions on this new development are pointless. Egos often supersede the search for the truth.
well, since they have apparently made their opinions public, wouldnt it be logical to invite them to share if the «new development» has had any impact on those opinions? i also fail to see any indication of ego that they already know the truth and wont change their minds even when presented with evidence to the contrary.
this episode was a real dud. The guests are so boring and inarticulate.
I was thinking the same thing.
Can't afford to watch Gray. His channel is too expensive for me along with the verbal abuse.
@@marymarr3lmao right. Like we expected his dumb ass to appear on court tv
Totally grasping at straws for content with these interviews
When you look at the evidence, he is definitely guilty… 1. His DNA was on the knife sheath underneath one of the murdered victims 2. He drives a white Elantra that was spotted at the scene 3. He turned his phone off during the hours they were murdered and then turns it back on when he’s away from the crime scene 4. His alibi makes 0 sense, driving around star gazing on a cloudy night. When you add it all up, it’s as clear as day that he is guilty. Just my opinion..
Was it a cloudy night? I don’t know anything about this part of Idaho / Washington. Are there mountains and is cloud cover consistent over large geographical areas? Just curious. Will try to google it lol.
I guess you don’t believe in the constitution either? You know the whole innocent thing
He did not shut his phone. These prosecutors investigators were inept clearly. This case has been shady from day1, everyone knows it by now. So you can determine victims unalivings from "surviving roommates" phones But you can not use the actual bacround Metadata, most efficient thing existing to determine an alibi 😄 The hypocricity of the media is ridiculous! Defense expert has tracked terror operations. Lets see what "lead detective" Payne has tracked!! Drunk college adults on their own property..😉
@@ferrari251I checked the hourly weather for that night through the following morning on that date in that area and there was an icy fog with complete cloud coverage.
@@ferrari251 not only cloudy but foggy as well. Cold & icy conditions.
Lmao at ⭐️👀. He’s so full of it.
Ok so is Stargazing an actual interest amongst People, do People really have an interest in Stargazing?
Two laymen guests regarding this case. One says that bk claimed himself that he switched his phone off (!) and the other is talking about the pca's route like a child learning the ABC for the first time.
It's truly embarrassing indeed
Guess theres no more saying "allegedly" by all these media outlets now..
I don’t know how they get by with it!!
What are you mad that the serial killer has no alibi?
Are you mad that the serial killer has no alibi now? You mad you thinking needs more rights?
He was ALLEGEDLY stargazing 😂
@mrbrightside7193 he's not a c serial killer. Words matter.
And I am the Queen of Egypt.
We gonna have to fight Nerfettiti for that one
This is maddening. Until you can show me that the license plate on the circling white Elantra is the same as on Kohberger’s Elantra, the surveillance video has no relevance to his guilt or innocence.
well, it matters because we are not looking at each piece of evidence in a vacuum. for instance, the cell phone data and DNA evidence at the scene on top of video surveillance of a car matching his at the scene may all be considered to prove beyond «reasonable doubt» that he was at the scene of the crime. even if the cellphone data stops at some point, it may indicate he was traveling that direction at a time that would reasonably place him there.
It was in the 20° temperature range overcast with icy fog overnight that night. We keep historical weather records 🤷♀️
I’ve just posted a comment vetting that there’s someone out there that would know if it was cloudy that night then I read this 🤣🤣
Exactly! I looked it up as well… the icy fog and complete cloud coverage. You definitely can’t go stargazing under those conditions.
They'll just say something like "well, even in cloudy/foggy weather Mr. Kohberger would continue driving around in search of clearer skies or wait for it to clear" the bulk popcorn orders are in....
Yup! I checked Wundergound and it was cloudy and hazy for two days, November 13th and 14th respectively.
His alibi is that he was driving around. Stargazing is something he does on his drives. Doesn’t mean he did that night. 🤦🏻♀️
No one remember when he was arrested he asked " have you arrested anyone else "
That's a rumor!
Even if he said it, I don’t think it means anything. He could’ve said that to throw LE off all the while knowing it was just him.
@opaqueblackhole 🤷♀️ just posing the question didn't he have something on reddit in regards to murder?
@@heathen7416I think you are right. However, I can't help but wonder if his dad was involved. 🤔
@@Amy-oj6lu🤔
Aarrgh god i can't watch this he's NEARLY as annoying as Nancy grace 🤦♀️
It’s unbearable.
grey is very bias
Omg ..He was stargazing his plan!! Sick Monster! RIP for the 4 college students!! We all are looking forward for justice for all of U!! 💫💫💫💫
These prosecutors investigators were inept clearly. This case has been shady from day1, everyone knows it by now. So you can determine victims unalivings from "surviving roommates" phones But you can not use the actual bacround Metadata, most efficient thing existing to determine an alibi 😄 The hypocricity of the media is ridiculous! Defense expert has tracked terror operations. Lets see what "lead detective" Payne has tracked!! Drunk college adults on their own property..😉
So let me get this straight - A guy crippled by the mental torment of snowstorm vision or whatever CHOOSES to nightdrive. Damn I only have astigmatism n I can't see sht at night😂
"Repeated patterns of typical behaviours" yeah when u drive round the same block week after week, night after night in my language we call it stalking lol
Was that ever confirmed to be him or just some rando on reddit?
@@simdal3088 It was never confirmed, these people are all on a witch hunt.
@@KevinVenturePhilippines Yeah, very little factual information out there. Im taking nothing at face value.
@@simdal3088 That was not information gleaned from a Reddit post, it was on Tapatalk and it had a picture of him (as a teen, which fits the timeframe in 2011). But no, he's never personally confirmed that he suffered with that as a teenager.
I have a State Park near my home where most of our town regularly goes (at all hours) to run, sky watch, camp, and do night photography. I go all the time myself. I went last week at 3am. Its looks amazing away from all Light Pollution. Its so common to do this its literally an American pastime 🇺🇸 AS IS PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE
do your townfolk go when it is closed to the public and freezing temperatures outside and there is cloud cover blocking the skies?
This is a joke 😂 stargazing! The most crazy alibi I never hear!
Sorry not sorry but..These prosecutors investigators were inept clearly. This case has been shady from day1, everyone knows it by now. So you can determine victims unalivings from "surviving roommates" phones But you can not use the actual bacround Metadata, most efficient thing existing to determine an alibi 😄 The hypocricity of the media is ridiculous! Defense expert has tracked terror operations. Lets see what "lead detective" Payne has tracked!! Drunk college adults on their own property..😉
And it took them 18 months to come up with this ridiculous story . 😂😂😂
Exactly. The ppl believing it are hilarious 😂
I know. This doesn't really cut it.
Well technically it’s up to the prosecution to prove his guilt. He doesn’t need to provide an alibi. If you listened to them speak, his alibi hasn’t changed. Why won’t the prosecutor turn over discovery? How many people have solid alibis in the middle of the night? If he said he was sleeping would that be ok? Jack Ds alibi is that he was asleep. How did police prove that? Is there a video of him asleep when the crimes occurred? I doubt it.
Wow....these people hate Gray Hughes almost as much as Kohlberger.....lol
Being too far away from the crime is a simple alibi. When your alibi involves being alone you have to hope that an expert can prove it when the police concluded that “they couldn’t track his phone, therefore most likely he turned it off to conceal his whereabouts before driving his own car to the house of some people he had been stalking”… Well so far the car has no victim DNA in it and the suspect didn’t stalk the victims of the crime… That’s Zero for 2 to the prosecution. Now we hear that as the PCA even states, the possibility exists that his phone was not in a mobile service area or in aeroplane mode. The accused has an expert that’s reviewed the phone data himself (in line of the prosecution or FBI being forthcoming with the CAST report) and the defence expert is saying, the GPS data is there, the accused was in a no mobile service area and the GPS data is in at least one photo he took. Further to this, the prosecution has either been aware of this and concealing exculpatory evidence or has intentionally removed/failed to preserve this exculpatory evidence from their reporting so far. I guess the prosecution has time to conveniently find it and add it to the final report that has been withheld ad nauseam. So far we are looking like the prosecution is Zero for 3 As for the gated closed National Park? Most people drive to the gates and walk or jog from that point on. Our skies are most beautiful away from towns, man made lights and pollution. Kohberger used to go jogging at night back home. I’m sure he’s got a track able history in Idaho and Washington States too. Was that white car a Hyundai Elantra let alone the same year as Kohberger’s? Or did the investigators under pressure start making those stars align in the PCA. No pun intended.
Plus there wasn't a scratch on him. Not a speck of the victims DNA in his car. With such a bloody crime scene? I don't believe he did it.
Also the fact that he was driving around late at night really isn't that suspicious I myself suffer from insomnia and often go for drives at 2:00 a.m. 3:00 a.m. and such as far as him cleaning his car in the middle of the night another thing an Insomniac might do and the wearing the gloves whilst doing it normal people wear gloves when they're clean their homes and when they clean rubbish out of their car it's simple hygiene all of this seems very circumstantial
@@awesomebeautiful8782 Yet his DNA was found on the button of the knife cover left at the scene.
I'll say it again, if this Dude is found 'Not Guilty' in no way will I be shocked, something not right from the start before this Dude was even picked up.
Litterally no evidence the prosecution has matters, if Bryan Kohberger can prove he wasn't there.
It’s so nice to see Joseph Scott Morgan not being blessed out by Nancy Grace and actually respected as a professional 😭💀💀
I think we should all get ahold of court tv directly to stop having Gray Huges on the air
Looks like the defense is getting desperate....IMO, of course. Thank you Prof. Joseph Scott Morgan for the weather forecast that evening...can't stargaze with overcast cloudy skies, unless you're watching "Star Wars" on Netflix while sitting behind the wheel in your WHITE HUNDAI ELANTRA.
"I was sleep walking" "Someone stole my car but returned it b4 i could call the cops" "I was at dennys" All better excuses than stargazing
Literally the, "I just really like going for very long drives when I can't sleep," was a better alibi than, "I was trespassing at a closed park looking at dark clouds while freezing my balls off."
Is everyone forgetting/ignoring that BK has images that give time date and location metadata? Digital evidence is pretty compelling.
@@LizzyAnn904 proving he's innocent?
Most, if not all, innocent people being arrested and charged with any crime, let alone of this magnitude, would have put forth their alibi immediately. His attempt to come up with one upon seeing the prosecution's evidence and timeline is very suspect.
He wasn’t able to. The preliminary hearing was canceled and he was indicted.
Stargazing 🔭 but they never found a telescope 🔭 🤔
He also drove down the street that gives one a perfect view of the police station.
He did not shut his phone. These prosecutors investigators were inept clearly. This case has been shady from day1, everyone knows it by now. So you can determine victims unalivings from "surviving roommates" phones But you can not use the actual bacround Metadata, most efficient thing existing to determine an alibi 😄 The hypocricity of the media is ridiculous! Defense expert has tracked terror operations. Lets see what "lead detective" Payne has tracked!! Drunk college adults on their own property..😉
Stargazing or stalking?
It should be illegal to post these nonsense whereabouts
That picture of him when he's looking to the side Reminds me of elf on a shelf.😂😂😂
Haven't even watched the video yet, but its been a year and a half since the murders and THIS is the best he can come up with for his defense??? Hes a criminology major and it took him this long to come up with THIS??? I hope they lose the key to his cell
Unless he has absolute evidence that he was at a park, sitting in or around his car, stargazing into the clouds, that is NOT evidence, thus not an alibi.
A park with a closed gate after sundown mind you 😂
And if that’s the case - who cares about stargazing. He was at this point and it’s proven. Like the stargazing angle is so desperate it’s comical
These prosecutors investigators were inept clearly. This case has been shady from day1, everyone knows it by now. So you can determine victims unalivings from "surviving roommates" phones But you can not use the actual bacround Metadata, most efficient thing existing to determine an alibi 😄 The hypocricity of the media is ridiculous! Defense expert has tracked terror operations. Lets see what "lead detective" Payne has tracked!! Drunk college adults on their own property..😉
I bet he chuckled when he decided that this is going to be his defense. Basically saying F... You, everyone. He knows he has not much time left so he decided to have some more "fun" with the victims families.
Witnesses for the defense:👽👽👽👽
I'd like to call E.T. to the stand.
Nowhere in the text it says he was stargazing THAT night..they listed his habits when goint out at night ..stargazing, running etc. I am trying to help myself, but the more I watch this kind of stuff from USA the more I ask myself what's wrong with people there and how can the media manipulate them so easily..
It is crazy
@iradogaru2114 As an American I find the people in this comment section disgusting. Just two weeks ago the whole world was gazing at the Solar Eclipse. Now, all of a sudden it weird to look and admire to what God have created. As if, Introverts and Loners don't exists.
@@nicolecharles3180 it really shows people’s ignorance. I don’t mean it in a bad way because I used to be more closed minded too. It’s really scary that someone can be told by a reporter that someone committed a crime and the believe it without needing to see actual solid proof. So gullible it’s scary.
Ive been replying to people here who are mocking BK for stargazing that night. They are even looking up the forecast!!. 🤦🏻♀️ It was never said he was stargazing that night. His alibi didn’t change. They were just giving examples of what he likes to do at night.
What a LIAR!
Really? How did you Prove that? Do tell us, amazing that you have this to prove.
Who is a liar? BK? He says he was driving around. We have not heard his dna was found on victims. We have not heard the murder weapon was found and his dna is on it. No proof he was there. So how is he guilty?
Thank you Vinnie. And you have a power tie on 😊
It's still frightening to think we live amongst people that can do such a vile thing.
The thumb nail kills me 😂 it needs to become a meme
And I was getting ice cream 🙄, give me a break this is the worst alibi I have ever heard 🤣!!!!
Circling like a shark. This guy is guilty as hell.
They have never even proven that was his car, the cell towers don't work that way, they can show any phone near any house that is within 20 miles of the tower, it is anything but precise without at least 3 towers for triangulation. No commenters here have a clue. You all just want more blood than the killer.
Per the PCA, they stated Bryan's phone turned on and "connected" with the Blaine City phone tower at 4:48 a.m., South of Moscos 9 Miles South. Yet they are claiming he was miles West of Moscow? This is going to turn into Ray vs the FBI CAST report.
Joseph Scott Morgan you are brilliant!
When the Moon hits your eye Like a big nutso guy… That’s Kohberger!!
i was staring at the sky i swear it is not a lie ...
"Stargazing" he means gazing the victims to attack them.
It's amazing to me that in the USA, everyone is free until proven otherwise. However, in 90%+ of live crime TV, everyone is guilty.
Police must show probable cause to a judge before a person can be arrested.
THAT MONSTER GUILTY AS SIN 💯
THAT MONSTER might be YOU 😂 ‼️...........😮
Yeah??? Where's ya Proof?
How? Where is your proof he killed them?
Great coverage
Court TV is definitely biased! Not great coverage at all!
Historic weather for Pullman, WA on that night says cloudy. Not much to see in the sky.
In reference to the knife sheath. If people like Gray Hughs don't think that police plant evidence look at the Ex Deputy Zach Wester case in Jackson County Florida. At least 27 different people were prosecuted with planted evidence. Unfortunately it does happen.
All the time!
yes, but is seems stupid to plant Touch DNA when they could have planted a fingerprint or saliva, or anything other that could not be argued as touch DNA...also, why would he be ohh so lucky to caught the attention of the police to be framed?? makes no sense.
GRAY is A Law Enforcement Groupie. He is incapable of Critical thinking.
Finally a good comment I can’t stand people most of them have already convicted him like the knife was bought from somewhere so technically it should have at least two people’s dna on it because it was purchased somewhere the fact that it only has one persons touch dna on it is suspicious but most of these muppets cannot think for themselves and have already convicted him in their sheep minds
@@nallelygrisellbenitezrosar248 Because I am starting to think this whole thing is a fraud and I’m not the type that believes in conspiracy theories or psy ops. Nothing makes sense.
How was he searching with an app for stars or taking photos with his cell phone off? What was he using to take photos?
it may surprise you, but sometimes the point of stargazing is to get away from all that noise :) in fact i think that may be part of what the defense is really *reeeaaaaching* for here.
Funny how seemingly intelligent people can't read or comprehend English properly.
For a second there, I thought Harold Ramis was alive again giving his take on this case. 😮
That guy is a biased dolt
@@tonystevenson26 🤷🏻♂️ I had no idea who he was
Remember: He also had not one friend he was visiting. He doesn't have any friends in Moscow. Why visit Moscow? And there just so happens to be murders AT THE SAME TIME according to his phone location.
No i dont remember that, "he also had no friend" is not a fact
@@karaMcg1122 we will see...
Next, he'll say the stars lead him to "Moscow".
@@karaMcg1122 Why are you defending him?
@@patricias5122 bc there is not one evidence against him after one year, and im sick of ppl making crap up
The biggest irony here is that the PcA itself talks about him driving around quote " late night and early morning "
You bring in all these professionals then Grey Hughes?
Stargazing is NOT an alibi
actually it is. his cell data proves that.
Especially not if you have a history of visual difficulties 😂
@@SherlockHs1turning off his phone?
@@nevadatan7323 wrong again. he already proved he didnt turn off his phone. and cell data will show where his location was
@@nevadatan7323 wrong
Why wasn't his nut job lawyer sanctioned for her despicable action sin conducting a phone poll of potential jurors, attempting to taint the jury pool.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the defense survey. You should listen to the hearing about it. Or perhaps you need to go back to law school.
Get over it...nothing illegal was done
Ask tribe member Schumer.
Beyond the stars, the prosecution has FBI testimony that he was sealing trash in baggies with gloves and disposing of it in a neighbor's bin. Circumstances add up
The alibi says he has GPS data on his phone to prove he did not travel to Moscow that night.
He can say whatever he wants, stargazing at 3 or 4am in November. The fact that the prosecution has a witness putting him in that house is so damaging to his so-called alibi. Thats just an excuse for why his phone was turned off and turned back on. LE has the ability to tell whether he shut the phone off or the battery died. Whats his excuse for sitting outside the home in the summer months prior to the murders? Was he stargazing then too? His car will rat him out. How does he plan on explaining his DNA on the knife sheath next to 1 of the victims bodies? This is the stupidest excuse I've heard so far. JMO
What's his excuse for sitting outside of the house multiple times THE NEXT MORNING? Sunrise gazing? Mid morning gazing? College co-ed gazing?
No witness put BK inside that house. Police said DM saw a guy with eyebrows walk past her. It never said the man was BK. 🤦🏻♀️ The dna was touch dna so it’s not reliable and it was on a sheath. The sheath is not a murder weapon. The dna could have transferred on their by him just being in the store it was sold in so it’s unreliable. What was the murder weapon? Ah ha! Police have not told us. It could have been a machete for all we know. It’s not a stupid excuse. He doesn’t need to provide an alibi. The prosecution has to prove his guilt. His phone pings off the king road tower even if he’s home in Pullman. If he comes to Moscow his phone pings. Doesn’t mean he’s stalking.
@@cje886 that hasn’t been proven. Police have already stated his phone pings in Moscow even when he’s not there.
What he was doing in the park is irrelevant if the Metadata shows he was at the park.
I've read somewhere that the park was closed. But I don't know.
Exactly! He did not shut his phone. These prosecutors investigators were inept clearly. This case has been shady from day1, everyone knows it by now. So you can determine victims unalivings from "surviving roommates" phones But you can not use the actual bacround Metadata, most efficient thing existing to determine an alibi 😄 The hypocricity of the media is ridiculous! Defense expert has tracked terror operations. Lets see what "lead detective" Payne has tracked!! Drunk college adults on their own property..😉
Narrator: Unfortunately, the metadata did not show he was at the park.
it might be relevant if he was attempting to hide evidence there. im sure that if the «Metadata» indicated he was there the investigators would already be considering this :)
@@theconiferoust9598 Probable cause is what it is. They can not change that. That is the charges, and it is already very shaky and shady. Search warrant were on the same info too. Paynes and Blakers copy and paste "i believe" and "in my opinion" crap.
So you’re telling me this man might just get a trespassing charge???
them angels ran tha biggest party house on campus
Gray is disturbed, he has issues with women. I don’t give him any of my time.
Gray has Issues with "Human Beings"...
Interesting show with a great guest panel..! Thank you.
Oh! Joseph Scott excellent point! Cloudy skies yeeehaw!