Porsche Cayman GT4RS | Once in a Generation Experience
We do a complete first look and drive on the new Porsche Cayman 718 GT4RS that covers all of the engineering, design, and much more. This is likely going to be a classic car in 20 years, this is the peak of naturally aspirated engine technology. If you are in the market for a driver's car and you want a companion to your 911 GT3 this may be the best car available. Other cars to consider are BMW M5 CS, Lotus Emira, Audi R8, Mercedes AMG GT Coupe, and Corvette Z06.
#cars #porsche #gt4rs
Index:
00:00 The Story
1:07 Interior and Exterior Impressions
3:04 Mechanical Impressions, Aero and Changes
4:28 Body, Brakes, and Suspension Changes
7:12 Transmission, Diff and Engine Discussion
9:11 Intake Design and Engineering
10:38 Driving Impressions
19:13 Final Thoughts
The first time Jack dropped the hammer and got it up to 9k, I made an audible noise that would best be spelled as "fwugh". Emotional is right...this car made me have an emotion through a 6" screen.
Literally, same reaction. Unfreakingbelievable
Mark is literally beaming in the first pull, think that says everything
You know what they say about 6"
It’ll be very emotional for the GT4-RS driver when my Tesla Plaid blow the doors off as I watch on my rear view mirror.
Time for quiet EVs to rule…they will all sound the same with no character 😕
"So enough talk, drive!" **shows video of me holding a tumbleweed** Savage G̶e̶e̶s̶e̶ GOAT!
oh my other favorite youtuber next to geese! :D
I figured that was your gag Jason!
Headphones on moment. This thing sings.
Don’t drive it if you want to buy one cause they’re sold out. It’s okay I don’t think I’ll get to drive one either lol.
Shut Up
We are living in the reality where this got fully green lit through Porsche and into production. Wow
This timeline has some pretty bad stuff but at least we got the gt4rs
This is unreal.
thank you Andy Preuninger, the legend
People have lined up for this car since the 981 GT4
Dunno why it seems so surprising. This is what Porsche does.
The audio engineering going on behind the scenes to vividly capture the visceral sounds from the car ripping through the track deserves a lot of recognition!
Whether you guys are reviewing a supercar or an econobox, the production is always top notch and the commentary always feels "car guy" genuine. Thank you and keep up the good work.
11:09 “Let me show you what this adds up to Mark” And then all hell broke loose. Brilliant. I am vicariously living through you two clowning around in a car I’ll never own or drive. All I can say is Thank You.
Why so low ambitions
That last 500 rpm got me acting up
Savage Geese, IMO provides some the most technical and unbiased reviews available. Thank you for another well prepared, well presented and amazing review of this GT4 RS
Yep. I think Savagegeese truly represents what driving enthusiasts are about. They love driving for the sake of driving, not for the outright speed or bragging rights that certain cars give you. Car guys are not created equal and I think it's rare that automotive journalists are so honest about where their allegiances lie. No it's not going to keep up with a Ferrari SF90 in a straight line, and with the advent of Tesla and the current turbo trend, this car is downright 'slow' for the $125k+ category, but it is still far too fast for public roads. That's simply not what most automotive journalists would admit because they're so inundated with high power cars. But driving enjoyment is rarely rarely about outright speed for many of us in the community. I own a C7 and it is MUCH faster than the miata or mustang I had before. Yes walking up to and getting out of the car the C7 kills the other two in 'curb appeal'. It's 'cooler' less of a hairdresser car, etc and yes that speed is thrilling and the sound of the V8 is intoxicating, but every single time I take a turn, I just wish I was in a miata or mustang instead. Why? Because I instead of being 30 mph over the speed limit, and feeling like I'm going slow, I would only be 10 over, and FEEL like I was going 50 over. The corvette is simply too fast to be 'fun' on most roads even with only 465 Hp because you always feel like you're only using 40% of the cars performance. In my mustang & miata, I could use 75-90% of everything they could give nearly all the time and so there was a lot more drama and excitement on the street.
@@eurly93 Wonderfully stated and I agree with you completely.
Masterpiece once again mate. Fantastic job.
WOW. That engine note gave me goosebumps despite my laptop's crappy speakers
When I was young, our rich neighbour had many wonderful cars. I helped him maintain them and he took me with him for the rides. It was the gran turismo era, peoples where buying fast cars to cover long distances in minimal time, mechanical gems that where incredibly connected to you. I remember myself roaming our little mountain street as a passenger with our neighbour's Lamborghini Diablo, Espada, with the Ferrari F360... those where moments of pure bliss, just remembering them makes me tear up. If I had the money, I would buy myself this Cayman 718 GT4RS or an LFA in a heartbeat.
did he touch you
Clearly the best GT4 RS video out there by quite a margin. Well done, gentlemen.
The sound of the engine above 8500 RPM is mentally satisfying 👌
Like a buzzsaw
Sounds like an angry refrigerator to me. My ZL1 sounds 100x better
@@fzr1000981 lol as an American you would. Your ZL1 sounds alot like a corvette doesn't it...P.S. that's not a compliment
LT1 is one of the best sounding V8s out there and better than any 6 - sorry it's just reality
@@fzr1000981 in that case the lfa’s engine is the best sounding v10 and better than any 8 - sorry it’s just reality
I'm not a Porsche guy... That is, until now. The sound of this alone is bliss. Too bad it's worth a third of my house
Money is relative but compared to a lambo Ferrari and mcl this thing is a bargain. It may not have the badge prestige or the exotic flex those have but this is every bit the drivers car and then some.
@@aceofspades6667 Calling it a "bargain" is a big stretch.
Not a question if you have money. It’s a question of getting an allocation and waiting. Repeat customers and dealer friendly customers come first.
you can live in a car, but you can't drive a house. Make your choice wisely
The thing is, most people will never get one at msrp. This thing will go for 300k or more and at that price it loses a lot of appeal
SG made me turn from a Porsche disliker into a Porsche fan. The production value, the raw, professional opinion on whichever the vehicle you are reviewing, and actual matters that matter to me(audio, sound isolation, reliability, fun, connectedness, how the car *feels*, the whole lot), just... Wow! - Thank you, you make my life more complete and may both of you always be in good terms. You are good men, too few left remaining in this world.
Just hearing that engine note.. Man.. I get adrenaline rush.
I hope you get to have one soon!
The last 1000rpm is incredible
8-9 is just.... bwooooah.......
Perfection on video. 1 of those cars I'll remember this forever. Porsche is a manufacturer who knows what they do and who their demographic is. Yes their products do cost a lot of money but you're not just buying a car but a lifestyle. Nothing even comes close to the experience you're getting once you set foot inside a dealership! Thanks Mark an Jack for this feature. Once again it shows what you get when you bring your a-game to a manufacturer who actually cares!
I can’t wait to get to drive this thing, I work for a Porsche dealer who got a very large amount of allocations, the GT4/Spyder is already the car I would get out of anything in the Porsche range
What Porsche dealer is it?
Yeah… if I could buy one without a crazy markup I’d make it happen.
@@thegosudriver Austin, TX. It doesn't matter which dealership you ask, anywhere in US dealership charge you that much. Even worse is the GT3, the markup is about $120k above MSRP these days.
@@sammylin2459 Not true, there are dealers that are strictly MSRP. The problem for anyone trying to get a car now is that the lists at those dealers are long so your number may not come up before the end of production.
@@sammylin2459 for sure, I left another comment saying that exact same thing. It’s sad, really, and the snobby attitudes of the dealerships don’t help.
That has to be one of the best sounding cars Ive ever heard. I immediately went back and cranked the volume for full immersion XD
Another tough day at the office for Mark and Jack. Thank you for taking us along for the ride.
I'm 28 years old and I own a 987.2 Base Cayman with a manual. Its amazing. And am in a very lucky position to own such a thing at my age. But this is my dream car. But I cant ever see myself being able to realistically afford one. Maybe in 20 years. But by then I think our roads will be a lot different and there certainly wont be a Cayman like this avaliable. Hopefully the world lets us have cars like these for a few more years and I can at least get into a GTS 4.0L before they go the way of the dinosaur.
Yeah this car is going to be going for insane prices. Its sad. But GT4 and 4.0L cars are pretty amazing too.
@Ouchwitz Summer Camp LLC Yep, anyone buying one should give a call to DeMan
@Ouchwitz Summer Camp LLC if you don’t mind aftermarket, this issue is resolved there. I just don’t think this alone should be the reason to avoid such a masterpiece.
@Ouchwitz Summer Camp LLC NO, it's real fault is the 4 corner strut based suspension
I cried with happiness each time a gear shift occurred at 9k rpm. Glorious!
I remember some earlier Porsche reviews on this channel, and Porsche seems to have responded with actually letting you guys talk to engineers, designers, even marketers. Seems that if you're confident in your products, giving people more information works.
You guys have, by far, the best rendition of a car's sound in any video review channel. nothing comes close.
This does indeed sound like an LFA, That high pitched harmonic note is so sweet and distinct. Especially when everyone wants to create that rumble and pop effects.
Every time I'm asked what my dream car is I always say a Cayman GT4. Well now it's obviously this beast. Hats off to Porsche.
To all those talking about allocations -- Maybe at least Porsche will add one of these to the Porsche Experience Center so it's not *only* experienced in collector garages under a cloth next to their 918 😄
We can only wish!
Bunch of these going to be listed with under 100 miles for 100k markups just like the 992 GT3 sadly
@@namir91 They're going for $150k-200k over.
@@overspecced Lol even worse than I imagined. Ridiculous. Porsche could easily solve this but they continue to force base model caymans and boxsters on people that can't afford the markups on GT cars
@@overspecced I heard these are going for 250k in showrooms
Love it! Especially the onboard POV footage. You can tell so much about how a car handles by it, which you cannot via other angles.
I've watch this video maybe 4-5 times now and everytime Jack does that first launch it just puts a smile on my face. Great job guys!
This is simply astounding. Thank you both for the experience!
Jack is so excited, he's spittling everywhere. That's all i need to know
Well done guys! Great coverage and great editing! I know most won't notice the little video editing niceties but I did and they were very well executed!
Incredible review. Thank you for putting in the effort to deliver such an amazing and detailed video. You’re the best, Mr. Goose and Johnny Singapore.
The induction noises are just insane.
14:28 jack's face describes the car perfectly
The cinematography is absolutely next level. Great work!!!
That induction note may be one of the best of all time... along with the LFA.
It’s even better, the way the sound changes it’s note and various parts of the power band is so unique and race car like. It sounds like a Mclaren F1 with that induction noise
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@@jameswillard1 the final 1000rpm is symphony
@@ArtVandelayOfficial I agree 👍🏻
This is the best video, with the best sound capture on the GT4RS so far. Great work
This one of the best car videos on here imo...your understanding passion and enjoyment is second to none...
Keep up the good work guys, this was amazing! always here to support my favorite channel
Best gt4rs video out there. You guys are very special! I’ll keep supporting.
Brilliant review Mark and Jack, definitely your best video to date.
The way you guys captured interior sound is better than any other video I have seen on this car. Excellent job.
The similarity between SG and Porsche isn't lost on me: you both have to deal with all the SUVs and the like to bring us gems like this Porsche. Keep it up guys 👍
Thank you for this classy review. The respect for the engineering and driving experience came through as sincere. I enjoyed the sincerity. Way better than hype. Thanks again.
Can’t wait. I watched the trailer at least 5 times. Jesus, it sounds amazing.
Wonderful job on the sound capture. First class!
Absolute bliss. Wow!! We will remember this car for years to come…Love the style of your content. 😎
Good lord, that sounds absolutely insane! What an amazing machine.
goddamn, never have I been so excited about a car, and who better to review it than my favorite gooseman
i watched all the reviews in the past 24hours and this was the best. great job guys.
You are 100% correct, I had seen a couple of GT4RS video’s before yours dropped, but regardless absolutely appreciated the technical details! Cheers guys great content!
I am a strictly manual person although it does sound great..Y'all boys getting big from Atlanta to California doing reviews.. Congratulations and always enjoyable information..🏁👍🏽
You guys do an amazing job, thank you.
Another day, another extraordinary Savagegeese production. I watched four other GT4 RS videos and I can safely say yours is unmatched. You and your channel will be remembered for your unwaivering commitment to quality and improvement. Keep it up and please don't stop! 💪
Epic video. You really captured the sound and feel of the car. And I was just thinking we need in-car with Long when you served it up. Bravo!
Finally! A Porsche review, it's been so long.
No one is going to be able to afford it with the 50-100k mark up. The last of the greats are all for people who don’t even appreciate the car. Hopefully they don’t sink another boat, and add to scarcity again.
“A few moments of absolute bliss.” Loved it!!!
Great video and thank you very much for sharing the slides; unique content
Fantastic review gents! Had me focused the whole time! I'm so sad that I can't afford one, but the standard GT4 is a lot of fun.
The no dust sheilds for the brakes was the deal breaker for me, its why i ended up buying an 08 pontiac grand prix, there were some other factors too but thats the main one trust me
Lol 😂
Porsche is batshit insane in all of the best possible ways. What an absolute unit of a machine!
Tht new angel of track driving video at the end… jesus love it! Best GT4RS video
The absolute best automotive KZhead channel out there. Another fantastic video, thanks guys.
I think you convinced me to write a check. I’ve never even considered a car more than $70,000 but this may be the one.
Must be nice lol
Bro you definitely should.
If I put all my savings into this car, I could buy it… In Gran Turismo 7.
Out of all the videos released on the GT4RS, I choose to watch Mr Savage first. My favorite in depth car review channel out there
Absolutely PERFECT!!!! Perfect car and great, collectionable video. Thanks
The design looks straight from a video game. Insane looking
At first I thought you were driving a sim. That car seems insane.
Insane! Another great job guys. No one comes close to explaining the the suspension system as you do. 👍🏼👊🏼
These technical breakdowns are great. Good work team.
I am not sure that we can grasp how special this car is, now and in the next 40-50 years…
It will be bought by people who will never drive it or just take it to cars and coffee and then flip it to the next guy who does the same thing. Hopefully I’m just being negative and that’s not the case for everyone though.
@@squidwardshouse67 nah Porsche guys tend to drive their cars hard and put miles on them
@@drunkpolack7612 lots of non Porsche guys buy them and flip them.
@@drunkpolack7612 Maybe 30 years ago but there's tons of low mile GT cars out there.
@@RAZGR1Z I scooped up a super low mileage Gt3 and doubled the mileage in less than a year. Previous owner treated it like a garage queen. Imo these cars are meant to be driven!
This is honestly such a bargain for what you get and it can be driven without worrying about it breaking unlike Ferrari, Lambo and McLaren.
I wouldn't call it a bargain. A ZL1 1LE is going to beat this at most tracks for $70k less. See C&D Lightning Lap Every Car
@@fzr1000981 That's a very different car, 600 lb heavier and with 55% of the weight on the nose. Cayman competes with supercars in terms of the overall experience (build quality, engine location, etc.). It's also quite a bit faster to 60 and in the 1/4 mile so I'm not sure ZL1 would beat it around a track - 992 GT3 is a full 5 seconds faster than ZL1 1LE. ZL1, like C8, is an impressive beast in its own regard but it's not really competing with Porsches.
I haven't seen the Cayman lap time yet, the GT3 is a $180k car so I would hope it would win. The real test is the new Z06
@@fzr1000981 GT4 is 5 s behind ZL1 at VIR, GT3 is 5 s ahead. Figure something in the middle for GT4 RS with a better p/w ratio but still strut front suspension. ZR1 will be interesting given that so far only influencers have had access to it and the whole car is priced like what I would expect the engine alone to cost. I imagine it will be GT4 RS money after dealer markups, too.
I think you mean the new Z06 not the previous ZR1
Probably the best review and track drive ever. Loved watching this.
thanks for including the footage at the end, it's insanely fun to watch great drivers using a car to its full potential only wish i could see the speedometer better lol
14:30 pretty much sums up this car
The engine rev sounds nice. Speed-wise I am sure a lot of other cars can match it, but the engine noise is quite beautiful.
This is not about speed at all, but even then few can match that
Speed..? Did you not watch the video? That’s not even in the top 5 reasons why this car is so special.
Wow, what an awesome car. I love the level of technical detail you provided as well.
Next level car! Next level video. From the editing and videography to the technical aspects. Next level.
Such an AMAZING track for such a mind-blowing car. The sound that engine makes, good GAWD!!!
Can someone please explain how Doug Demuro has millions of subscribers and the Geese are still under 1 million? We should all be ashamed of ourselves.
Simply an incredible machine. A drivers car through and through 🏁 Great video as always! 🎥
Best GT4 RS video by far!! Well done guys
Goosebumps
*geesebumps
I enjoy your reviews on any car imaginable. However, this car gives you the opportunity to really highlight the strengths of your channel. Feel free to read between the lines. Thanks, guys.
Freaking a my man. I seriously love you guys. Masterclass level production, outstanding!
I have about 10 gt4rs reviews in my recommendations but you already know which one I’m watching. Thank you for the great info 👍🏼
What an amazing masterpiece and amazing unbiased review. I don't care how fast your Tesla Plaid can go in a straight line it just can't spark emotion like this Porsche can on so many levels!
You can say that again!
Its so sad that even if I decided to sell everything that I own I still could not buy this car because porsche would not sell one to me. Also, is that the happiest Jack has ever been?
What an amazing review! So thorough and comprehensive even to a layman like me 😊👍🏼Thank you guys! Excellent job 👏🏼👏🏼Keep it up. God bless 🙏🏼
That would be a keeper - having fun during that time - handing it down in the family. That's the car. Once in a lifetime. Thank you for the goose bumping interview :)
jack in a helmet will never get old
The fact that Porsche is releasing this version of a Cayman means it's over for NA GT cars. This is it. If you don't get one, I hope you like electric, or if you're lucky turbo powered Porsches.
I like electric. I think we'll have great drivers' cars in the future. But this still seems absolutely amazing.
What a review! We can actually experience the engine induction noise Amazing stuff!!
Amazing. Well done video guys!
Sounds amazing. If I had 150k to spend on a toy (and could get an allocation) my perfect version would be this without the rear wing and with a manual. Touring edition if you will. Love that the 86 is in the background during final thoughts, as it is what Subaru/Toyota did if you want a cayman on a budget.
basically, it is.
2023 Corvette Z06 would have a word...
If by the grace of god you can get one for sticker it’s a better value
The Z06 and GT3/GT4RS should be a nice comparison. Look forward to it
If it is as mighty as this already seems to be or better? All the more for it.
There may be other GT4 videos, but none of them hold a candle to what y’all do. Incredible video on a truly special car
I just freaking love this channel!!! Keep the content coming guys!!!!