Batman vs Shredder | Batman vs Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Batman vs Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2019)
Scene: Batman vs Shredder
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Storyline: Batman, Batgirl and Robin forge an alliance with The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to fight against the Turtles' sworn enemy, The Shredder, who has teamed up with Ra's Al Ghul and The League Of Assassins.
Director: Jake Castorena
Cast: Troy Baker (Batman / Joker), Eric Bauza (Leonardo), Darren Criss (Raphael), Kyle Mooney (Michelangelo), Baron Vaughn (Donatello), Carlos Alazraqui (Bane), Cas Anvar (Ra's al Ghul), Rachel Bloom (Batgirl), John DiMaggio (Mr. Freeze / Penguin Thug), Keith Ferguson (Baxter Stockman / Two Face), Brian George (Alfred), Ben Giroux (Robin), Tom Kenny (The Penguin), Andrew Kishino (Shredder), Jim Meskimen (Commissioner Gordon / Scarecrow), Tara Strong (Harley Quinn / Poison Ivy / Pizza Delivery Girl)
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I really appreciate this. Shredder immediately recognize Batman as a fellow - non freak opponent - worthy of his full attention and respect.
Batman is a bit of a freak 😂 but I get what you mean
One thing that makes me laugh about this movie is that Batman, a guy whose life is largely devoted to fighting organized crime and secret societies, is apparently unaware of the existence of the Foot Clan, and Shredder apparently came to do crime in Gotham without knowing that the city is protected by a world-famous hero. Obviously the story wouldn't work as well and we wouldn't get awesome scenes like this one if they were all aware of each other beforehand, but it's still pretty funny.
@@ErikHinrichsenwell he beats up petty criminals too tbh
@@ErikHinrichsen Its actually really simple, Shredder is not the kind of guy that wach TV, neither the kind of villain that appears in It much if even sometime did it. So this could totally happen.
Shredder would one shot Batman if it was actually base of their feats, and not some stupid plot armor for Batman.
Batman : "Why do I hear boss music?" Shredder : "You too?"
Underated comment right here
This comment is too underated
Anyone ever tell you how underrated this is?
@@JMHall1117 Underrated response
I think this comment just might be underrated
The fighting IQ these characters both demonstrated was phenomenal. Kudos to the animators
2:45 Except for this ..... **THIS** was just ..... dumb. 🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇
Should've given props to the writers too lol.
@@Need_RnR🧢
@@Need_RnR Yeah Batman would never do that
@@Need_RnRHonestly, I think he was expecting his fear tatic to work, if shredder had thought that “Wow, he got hit and is fine” then it would make him run, but shredder said “Wow he got hit, time to hit him harder”
I love how Shredder is like an actual ninja rather than a goofy 80s villain of the week that superficially resembles a ninja. He kills the Foot Clan member from the shadows before Batman got too much info. He immediately tries to leave before being stopped by Batman. He never once reveals who he is or what his motives are. Once Batman started getting the upper hand, he resorted to debilitating moves in order to escape without being pursued.
No he had to leave for Ras’al Ghul. And explain the second fight?
@@Hamilton-The-Unstoppable. I never stated the reason why he had to leave, just that he tried to leave immediately after killing the Foot Clan member.
Ninja Vanish.
@@jacobcox4565 no he left to do some stuff to help Ras’al Ghul Conquer Gotham and Shredder has the League of assassins.
@@Hamilton-The-Unstoppable. again, I never stated why he was leaving in my original comment, just that he was. Plus, there can be more reasons to one action. I don't doubt he was leaving to report to Ras', but he was also leaving to avoid confrontation with Batman.
Batman vs Shreder: the battle nobody asked for, but everyone needed.
Hell yeah
@@jcnz84 Falmomnl Momomb Cmombo jmomj
"Never before in my life have i needed something so much and not known until i recieved it"
For real though
Amen brotha
You can clearly see Batman's thought process throughout the whole fight. First he goes on the defensive; this is an entirely new opponent he's never faced before, so he tries to get to know his fighting style, speed, and aggression. When he makes a mistake and gets body hauled a great distance, he realizes that shredder is a skilled striker but has terrible defense against grappling. He then adapts his style to incorporate more short range jiujitsu and judo and nearly wins because of it. He then makes the clumsy mistake of assuming that he's imprinted enough of his fear tactics to make Shredder actually fear him. That, coupled with his analysis of shredder's fighting style suggesting nothing about magic based attacks; leading to his coup de grace catwalk jump.
yeah then became braindead all of a sudden, jumping like that vs a skilled striker opponent 😂😂
@@therizzler777Ikr, I was literally laughing when he jumped down like an actual idiot
I don't think Shredder has terrible defense against grappling. When he's being 'grappled,' Batman is counterattacking him. Shredder is in a compromised position where not many people would be able to stop being thrown. That's the nature of martial arts. If you notice, Shredder counters Batman with throws multiple times. That's just how it goes. What really hurts Shredder isn't 'being bad at grappling,' it's when he starts throwing big kicks that Batman easily counterattacks. If you notice, when it's hands, Shredder seems to have the advantage, and when it's feet, Batman does. In my mind, "Being bad against grappling," would mean Batman is actively trying to grapple and Shredder can't stop him. Like Zangief walking up and piledriving him. Not being thrown because Batman has good defense.
@@PainfulEditzboth of you gotta remember both took heavy hits to their heads they’re not thinking right anymore they have concussions
@@therizzler777He was rolling for Intimidation against a weakened opponent, which normally ends the encounter. Unfortunately Shredder had one legendary resistance left and burned it on the DC25 WIS save (or he just rolled a nat 20), which let him manage to get off his BS Polearm Master/Sentinel-esque opportunity attack when Batman entered his extended threat range. At least he just used Stunning Blow instead of Quivering Palm. Batman's usually one step ahead, but looks like this time he forgot to read the Adventurer's Guide to TMNT campaign supplement to preview what broken nonsense the devs gave the final boss. Maybe he was counting LR uses and thought Shredder was out (one to resist the grapple gun, two during the fight) and didn't realize the book actually gave him _4_ (powercreep in 5e is getting out of hand).
2:03 I love how without a word, Shedder looks at his broken arm claws and his eyes have the most "oh hell no" expression. He was genuinely shook cause not even all the turtles at once could do that to him.
Bro was like "Oh fuck, mightve bitten off more than i could chew this time"
That's why Shredder went for the throat strike.
@@ianfinrir8724and then the Sato Oshi when he saw Batman slow down for the more dramatic jump.
The cross over wasn’t cannon. The turtles moly whop Batman. Shredder one shots batman.
"Well... No one's ever done that before."
No one has commented about how great the background music is for this!!
Fr in fact this whole movie soundtrack is goated
Fight 😂!! shredder win!
Holy carp you're right!
2:46 Honestly the only reason shredder won was because batman messed up when he jumped at him like that , he could have thrown something at him first and then jumped but not at him then he could've rushed shredder and then beat him to Pulp 😓
@@nixson8809imagine Arkham Batman
The look on Batman’s face when Shredder cuts his line and the look on Shredders face when Batman breaks his steel claws is priceless. Perfectly done.
The last person I saw cut batmans line was red hood
@@paulshadforth750 know many knifes that can cut my line
@@jaysenbustamante9926 not many
It makes you wonder what Batman’s gauntlets are made of. Shredder’s claws can break Batman’s grapnel cable but Batman can break the claws
That’s when batman knew the threat was serious
*Leads a group called the FOOT Clan *Secret technique is a double punch Me: I mean they'll never expect it.
Because the whole tmnt series are daredevil parody and there is foot clan instead of hand clan.
@@gehbilibili18 Oh God that's accurate LMAO
To be honest, it looked like a special stance with some chi channeling or something. He was shaking a lot. I shake like that when I'm trying to apply pressure or precision, especially precision. Maybe the technique is just a special stance that exherts the body but causes massive damage?
@@TheKing-qz9wd oh im aware of that. I just thought it'd be a funny joke
@@Hashbrown1682 Well, it was funny, I'll give you that.
I love how both of them just have that moment during the fight where they go " oh shit! He's good!"
Love it, they did both characters justice and showed respect to their skill set
Simultaneous "This guy's different" energy
Yeah but Batman was holding back he always holds back
People forget Shredder is a legitimate ninja and not just a bumbling guy talking to a rhino and warthog.
I mean, he IS that, but you're right that he's more than just that 😂
In the 80's..he was just an alien in a robot body 😅
@@Darkstalker212wrong guy
I grew up with the 2003 shredder lol
@@Darkstalker212No the 2003 series is when he was, known as Utrom Shredder.
I thought this was PG until my boy took a shuriken to the head
Look at how they massacred my boy
Dude watch the whole movie. It gets worse than that. There's a head decapitation in here
@@reginaldhall7379 No kidding most of the scene make me go like "Damn" I'm use to see this on DC, they said the word "bitch" in a bunch of the animated movies, but with character from nickelodeon didn't see that coming
@@kamikaze4172 you made my day man, I LOL'd so hard!
@@theradicalden6180 I'm glad to hear it
Batman’s fighting style is simple: slam everyone’s heads into everything
lmfao
Like he did with Red Hood in Under the Red Hood
The Joker telling him that going for the head first before an interrogation is foolish must've put Batman in a semi crisis on how to reform his style.
I feel like in all of Batman's media he is severely nerfed. Kinda like Vader is. Tbh I think this fight would be way longer and way more evenly matched
Batman got beat up
I liked how they were both exhausted and beaten from fighting eachother for only a few minutes this was extremely well done
Realistically Shredder would wipe the floor with Batman.
@@Hamilton-The-Unstoppable.I'm pretty sure this is how the fight would go batman has fought many opponents just as great as him or better this was accurate
@@lifeisberserk9566 Shredder one shoted Rocksteady.
@@Hamilton-The-Unstoppable. Rocksteady is strong, but not smart or a great martial artist. Being strong is not the only factor. Shredder and Batman have actually very similar fighting skills, both are analytic, calculating, trying to trick and outwit their opponent while using martial arts and trying to take down their opponent. This battle was very realistic actually, considering how Batman goes against his own foes, especially if he hasn't any idea what they are capable of. This scene gives both of them justice.
I absolutely love how OUT OF NOWHERE Shedder basically does a hadouken, and not a single soul has ever questioned it.
As it should it be.
A move that shouldn't exist (hadouken) was added
The Sato Oshi
That's not a Hadouken. Not even close.
It looked more like what the Monks use in dnd: Shivering palms. Basicly a death attack if your not Hard enough to tank it.
Never in my life did I expect to see Shredder throat jab Batman.
And get away with it
ThatSpecialNobody ,, facts
That is why Batman has a neckbrace in the early years.
😂😂😂
Batman Lost!
shredder vanishes batman: "so that's what that feels like."
Batman vanishes without even needing for smoke bombs
@@hassanawdi3793I forgot about that.
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@@hassanawdi3793 well.. he only disappears if you look away so same thing really
@@takarahayashi4124 only works with the good guys too
I think Batman tried his cape jump for one of two reasons: either he did it as an intimidation tactic, like it usually evokes a sense of fear in his local thugs, or it was meant to help actually jump & glide down more easily like in the Arkham games
I could see Batman doing it just because he always does that and it almost always works.
It serves both purposes: intimidation and slowing down his descent by making his cape act like wings
Probably could a let him change his direction in case shredder tried getting out of the way. Or assumed because he was higher up, his body was silhouetted, and tried to obscure his kick. Or just you know...force of habit
I like how batman lost mainly because he underestimated shredder's disipline and nerve. Batman's biggest weapon is fear. For as skilled as he is (and he is pretty damned skilled), he specifically became a bat and take on a serious and deadpan persona to indice fear onto his opponents. Makes sense he would eventually grow over reliant on fear and give confident and disiplined opponents who don't scare easily an opening.
"Victory has defeated you."
Also it helps that Shredder has faced a fighter like Batman before, Batman being trained by ninjas and actively use their techniques Shredder would look past the smoke and mirrors of Batman’s tactics and take him out (albeit, with Batman giving him a good fight)
😊
He only lost because Shredder used a very unrealistic technique. If it was regular martial arts, Batman ultimately would’ve won the fight.
Shredder ran the fuck away. There was no loss on batmans part
Got to love how this scene shows that Batman is excellent in hand to hand combat, yet still shows his limit as a human.
Shredder is also just a human. Batman should have flat out won. He is a man fighting gods on the weekends Shredder gets his ass kicked by the turtles and the power of friendship and brotherly love. Aint no way shredder getting that close to batman. Dont get me wrong the turtles are superhumanly strong but batman is a whole other level. He has superhuman feats ON THE DAILY and does it on 3 hours of sleep. Like i can see shredder being maybe bane level strong but batman beats bane up ALL THE TIME... If anything bane is a bit stronger then shredder
@@leoneyamada5408 Jesus dude this aint the comics nor the expanded dc universe
@@leoneyamada5408 and yet, both Deathstroke AND Dick Grayson have absolutely trounced batman.... I'm not sure he's ever beaten Slade, in fact. Mostly a draw, but Slade has definitely won. You're gonna tell me shredder isn't on that level?
@@iami3rian394 Бетмен в ноль слил Дефстроука
@@_jerik_8240 can't translate, for whatever reason. Sorry mate. No idea what you said.
I love how shredder is like WTF when batman breaks his blades off
That made me laugh so hard to see the look on his face.
True: I don't believe there are many fighters capable of surprising Shredder. Let alone like that
I loved batmans eye squint when he looked at his broken grapple fall to the ground, it was just as good
2:00
@@zombies5100 I think that’s the equivalent of him being annoyed that he has to get a new one now.
I love that they both have the moment when they realize “Oh shit, that other dude is about that life” and immediately get serious.
0:49 Now you face... The Shredder. God I love they let Shredder do his jump into the scene intro from the original live action movie~
This movie is just full of references from both series, and pokes fun at them while treating them with respect. Michelangelo using his nunchucks to deflect attacks like he does in the cartoon opening from the 80's, Donatello going "Bosanova", which was a line from the original movie, the turtle's questioning the huge blimps in Gotham's sky while also acknowledging that they are cool, the teens loving the Batmobile, Alfred being a boss, the Joker using the Ooze for a crazy Joker scheme; this movie was obviously made by people who are fans of both franchises.
@@Dragon_Lair And of course MY TOE!
@@Supperdude9 Ugh. Don't even bring that up. I PLAYED the arcade TMNT games thanks to the "Cowabunga" collection. Having to hear that was annoying.
@@SorenDaein >not appreciating that meme Ah, so a TMNT Pleb.
The Batman Vs The Shredder.
I love how both put up one hell of a fight, exhausted themselves, left severe injuries on the other, and most important, each managed to legit surprise the other at multiple points. This is how you do a Vs.
I agree, until Batman jumped down like that. That was so dumb.
Honestly one of the best animated fights period. Just below Rick vs President
I do more enjoy a fight scene from DC animated series than a anime fight
@@putuadnyana3453 same here but fights like taijustu from Naruto hits harder or just as equally hard. The thing is about some animes they don't show enough cool hand to hand combat.
@@othellobarker1291 i totally agree,i undertand some of the DC animated move is also hard to imagine,but their hand to hand combat are just good to see.... Oh yeah dont forget about shout and talk...in anime all about 10% fighting and 90% flasback,shout,and telling your oponent your move,introduce your background etc.... 😂😂😂
Cool fact: in the follow up story to the comic this movie is based off of, Batman is forced to release the Shredder from prison to help him and the Turtles defeat Bane, who has taken over the Foot Clan. Shredder agrees to go back to prison after helping them on one condition: he and Batman face off one on one, in one last fight, before he helps them defeat Bane. They never say who wins, but it really demonstrates just how much respect Shredder has for Batman as a warrior.
name of the comic?
Soooo who won?
@@kojikowatakashi7767 MrPjw5 literally says that it nevers says in the comic who won.
Batman’s the goat
Well, if there's no clear winner, then its a draw.
This was perfectly done. Really did Shredder justice. A mere human who tanks a team of trained mutant turtles for fun. I suspected he’d give Batman a hard time in hand to hand.
Shredder would one shot Batman.
Shredder would beat the main Robins and Alfred and Batman.
@@Hamilton-The-Unstoppable. He can't win against arkham batman. The REC gun will end up knocking shredder over because of his body armour.
@@Hamilton-The-Unstoppable. Main line Batman no way, giving this was more of a mercy for Shredder because Batman has masters every single Martial Art and is one of the most skilled Martial Artists in DC, Shredder almost never fights opponents as skilled as him so he'd have harder time adjusting if we were to assume they're relative in skill.
@@airtiger4577 Shredder absolutely Negs that version.
Shredder: Next time, I will not be so merciful. *Internally:* Holy crap! That was too close! Bat guy almost got me!
Hahahaaaaa 😂😂😂😂
Can't let them know how close it was, the'll never let you live it down lmao
Batman fan cope
@@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964idk man, shredder was kinda getting his ass handed to him before he busted out one of his fuckin magic techniques.
@@tatefreeman4563 sure bud if that's what you saw. It's not like when Shredder activated his hidden technique Batman was on the ground like a baby bird with the Shredder towering over him
The way they both kept having to adjust and learn during the fight as they realised just how skilled each other were was great to watch. Batman dodges Shredder's basic strikes, so he gets more aggressive. Batman responds with gadgets and grapples, so Shredder closes the distance even faster. Batman carefully watches how he strikes with the blades and gets an angle to cut them off. All so good
I especially like how Shredder resorts to efficient, effective blows after his claws are broken. He only lands a couple major hits toward the end, but both the throat jab and chest blow were clearly intended to be as effective as possible to take Batman out before he could gain the advantage from his being unarmed.
@@pocketmonster1088Also notice... Batman controlled the distance as the faster one... But shredder changed his range and aimed for soft spots at the end with that knife hand. Elbows and punched to the stomach and chest not effective because your enemy is trained and well tensed? lets see the fucker tense their throat up.
0:56;Batman, meet... *THE SHREDDER!!!*
I was impressed by how they beating each other in combat. U saw how shredder took the turtles apart. And batman is said to be highly skilled in combat
@@frankdeleon4209 still Turtles have defeated him many times.in the end of the film Mickey attacked Shreader after saying Mickey's catchphrase
Who else thought this movie was going to be for kids until that freaking head shot happened?
I did wasn't expecting that shit to happen I was laughing when that shit happened randomly
Me
Welcome to the DC universe
I was like:DAAAAAAAMMMNN
When was the headshot?
2:30: You can almost hear Shredder thinking "The turtles usually take twice as long to wear me down half this much, and there's FOUR of them. Who and what is this man?"
And Batman was like " i lifted up bane and wasn't really tired i even took in the face grundy's hit and yet i am tired of fighting this guy who the heck is he?"
When Shredder drops down quietly; that was an amazing homage to the 90s TMNT movie
Wow Shredder looks like a proper villain for Batman's rogue gallery.
This is honestly one of the best fight scenes I have ever seen in an animated film. The crew did an AMAZING job here. At certain moments, you nearly forget it's animation. The moves look that realistic.
i mean he's basically just Al Ghul
jaecp5 very true but you gotta admit, shredder fits in nicely with the rest of the Rouges Gallery lineup.
I would like see him fit in gallery of villains.
But as a Bateman opponent he's not mentally ill enough
"Next time I won't be so merciful" _Smokescreen direct to the Hospital_
He might be shredder but nobody's immune to internal bleeding
Iron Duke, lmfao. Both of you got me rollin lmao
@@ironduke5058 That's ok, that's where the blood is supposed to be at anyway.
No I don't think so
Shredder: "ow ow ow ow f*ck that last one stung."
I love this fight. They choreograph it so well to display eachothers skills and level. One the better defender and tactition the other stronger and a better offender. Its so well done and instantly shows that Shredder is on Batmans level making anyone unaware of his character that he's not to be trifled with.
Absolutely incredible fight. Very accurate depiction of their mastery in combat.
Shredder would win easily.
@@Hamilton-The-Unstoppable. I doubt it.
Shedder owned him
Are we just gonna ignore that shredder ended that dude with a ninja star
웃 He was about to talk, that's like the first rule of ninja that you don't talk. This ain't Naruto lol
@@ultraatari9298 Believe it cause i hate that show. Ninja's are more like a evil death cult. They are not nice peoples...
@@kievonJSmoothSoul Have ever seen Naruto if have you would know that there those types a ninja
Not throwing the ninja star to Batman, OF COURSE.
THE 1st RULE OF FIGHT CLUB YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB
Not gonna lie this is the best representation of Shredder fighting I've ever seen.
To go toe to toe, be evenly matched, and walk away from a battle _with_ *Batman* is no small accomplishment for any character
Awesome stuff. Though in reality, there were several exchanges where the smaller blades on Shredder’s forearm and shin armor ought to have slashed up Batman’s arms and legs pretty badly - simply by reason of the sharp edges, and the amount of force they were both putting into their strikes and blocks. But hey - cartoons - right?
Can I just say; Had Shredder thrown that first shuriken at the back of Batman's head, and dealt with the talkative minion later, this fight would have never taken place.... ....or throw *two* shuriken!
@@DeathReviews I'd like to think that Batman's armor, especially his gauntlets, are more than a match for pressing up against Shredders blades (it's for knives and small arms fire and, fun fact: In this batsuit, the reason the icon on his chest is yellow is because it's _literally_ a target, it's the most armored spot on his body). If Shredder connected a hit, like he hit that railing, I'm sure he would have torn right through it, but simply pressing up against it to throw him or block something with his gauntlets, would be alright. Also the wing tips on those gloves are pointy, and sharpened, but they're for defense rather than cutting implements (sharp just in case he _needs_ to cut through something), so they're thicker and practically designed for him to turn away blades, including the Shredder's But, *AGAIN,* as I said above ^
Batman would've beat Shedders butt if Shedder hadn't used "The Foot" on Batman.
That throat strike is one of my favourite attacks in this fight. So cold blooded
You would never NEVER see this scene done any better with a live action performance. I stand by this claim.
Unless is was Michael Keaton against the 90 version it would be close to this
@@lifeisberserk9566 no
@@Marukanitel it would be
@@lifeisberserk9566 I do not recall Michael Keaton using Judo and high kicks
@@isaacyeon6334 maybe not judo but plenty of high kicks
I like that while they're evenly matched as a whole they leaned into Shredder being a better striker and Batman being a better grappler
Makes sense as Batman is probably a more versatile fighter. Shredder also struggles on defense. His style is all about aggression and power hits to kill or KO in one strike. But he should be thankful for that armor. Batman would have split his skull open a couple times.
@@marcusmcneal7453 not really, shredder s defense is impeccable, he casually beats up the turtles for breakfast. Shredder s defense is excellent.
Makes sense that Batman would be superior when it comes to soft martial arts
That’s true
@@nutshot_brawler8466 why are u gay?
Batman: Did he just...cut the the rope? How dare he do most logical thing to save himself!
In some the comics Batman's rope can't be cut by normal knives. Apparently Shredder's blades are high quality. At least that was my interpretation.
Blandco exactly!
How many people you know can cut Batman's cords? Being special polymer tether.
@@Blandco shredder learn to cut through nothing. That is how he did it.
Batman Lost!
B: "This guy is tough, I'm calling a friend. He's a reporter. " TMNT: "Oh, you have one too?" B "Mine is a bit more hands on."
What I Love about this fight is how evenly matched they are and how pissed off they both are about it.
You can actually see the point where they both hit of: “alright, let me stop bullshitting”
Yes, you can
And then you can also see the point where Batman goes: "Nevermind. I'mma ignore everything that's just happened and BS again now."
@@bragnir: I was half-expecting a "Wheeee!" as Batman jumped down, it was so ridiculously out of nowhere 🙄
@@spk1121😂😂😂😂😅😅
The fight we didn't deserve. The fight we needed.
We needed a fight with no winner?
@@ShawnMenchaca shredder could’ve killed him and sparred him that’s def a win
@@ShawnMenchaca Gotta test the waters
I deserved it
@@ShawnMenchaca Did you not watch till the end? shredder won
Something I don’t hear praised enough about this scene is the sound design. Like, that moment at 1:20 when Shredder cuts through the guard railing? Beautiful.
Most of Shredder's sound effects in this fight are straight out of the 2012 TMNT show. Makes sense since this movie is Nickelodeon's. And yes they are amazing.
Why is the fight choreography on this better than like 90% of live action movies, this was insane to watch
This is WAY more violent than I expected a Batman vs TMNT cartoon to be. That's a good thing.
Dc animated movies are surprisingly mostly made for adults, did you see flashpoijt and teen titans?
@Gabe Stein Wonderwoman guts a little kid with a broken sword in flashpoint. they are made for adults.
As others have said the DC movies are for older viewers but originally tmnt was a dark and gritty comic book series kind of similar to the likes of daredevil and the punisher
The original TMNT comics were violent
DC: They are all pg-13 and dark theme. Deadpool: Hold my Beer!
0:40 "He cut my lines. Nobody cuts my lines" 2:01 "He broke my blades. Nobody breaks my blades"
lol exactly
2:04 He be like "how can this be?! He breaks my blades!"
The number of times they're both silently surprised and offended at each other for using ninjutsu tactics is hilarious.
That landing scene with Shredder was perfect. Someone did their homework.
Shredder: "Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!"
Their battle was more tense in the comic this one was cool tho but I wonder how much of a plot device the joker shredder may be
For me is a meme
The Angel wait this was based off a comic I thought this was original
@@goombino_ yes 1984 there are more crossovers too there's a crossover with 6 issues (December 2015 - may 2016)
For once, that meme makes sense unironically.
When they break each other's equipment they both look at it like "that's never happened before"
That want Makes it awesome. For the turtles never have or form what I seen they haven't broken his Blades like Batman did. And Batman has a SMALL list that have cut that Cord. He can count on one hand how many people who can cut the cord without every knowing what it's made form. So again that's AMAZING.
They were like Nani
@@highasmr2950 For Shredder’s case saying nani makes sense because he’s Japanese.
@@ambuknight1567 I was gonna say Jason Todd was also the other person that broke Batman‘s cord. Then I saw “without knowing”, lol
@@rambonambo3510 hehe well again Todd is also one for even knowing the cords material it's a Small list. The shredder made his way on that list now Haha 😆
Looking at how the fight went, it's sometimes forgotten how good shredder actually is at times. He always been a threat, but going to head on with bats, and actually getting away ( this time at least) shows he isn't a goof ball bad guy. Legit ninja.
He didn't get away, he won, could have killed batman, just left because bad writing
No, Shredder was out of energy to finish Batman. It was a draw.@@IronheartvsMiles
@@IronheartvsMilesShredder was exhausted after that fight and Batman still might have a trick up his sleeve better to take the win then overextend and risk losing
I love how although Shredder should have made a final blow, he was savvy enough to realize that if he tried, Batman likely still had some fight in him and would not just allow himself to be taken down. With how drained he was from the blows he took, his main weapons broken, and using that enhanced strike, he knew if the fight continued he had a strong possibility of losing. So although leaving an opponent alive who had learned how he fought would be a bad idea, he had no choice but to back away while he still had the chance.
Not really batman was down, shredder stood up, he could have killed batman but decided to shoe mercy for whatever reason. Furthermore, it took 4 turtles and batman to defeat shredder. Batman was too worn out from the first fight. If he wasnt and could go on then why didnt he get up?
I love how they show the Shredder is capable of fighting someone like Batman. Everyone underestimates him because he fights giant turtles
No one realized this man is constantly fighting 4v1
Shredder usually loses to the turtles because they're unpredictable and fight dirty when the need arises.
and that he's a bad guy.
@@Eternaldarkness3166 depends on the continuity. He ranges from lawful to chaotic evil
From what I saw, Batman had clear control of that fight. He is the superior fighter between the two. A touch of irony, it's actually Shredder who had plot armor with his super ninja attack.
This was probably the first time in a long time both of them found themselves in desperate need of a hot shower, a massage, and some form of pain medication.
Well not for Batman as the Batman vs predator comic exists
I broke the 69 likes
@@basimali2186 ,as if he fought shredder and the predator back to back.
Batman has been owned by Bain a few times
Don't forget the Spawn vs batman comic, I don't remember much but I know that Batman had to be saved by Spawn because he almost died. He was lying in a pool of his own blood after being beaten and stabbed.
Could watch these two fight all day. Pure bliss.
Fun fact, this movie has aired on Nicktoons before. The only real omission is the actual blood (like at 0:31) but otherwise the actual violence and language was intact. It opened with a parental advisory.
Glad to see Shredder being portrayed as the badass he truly is
In the Nickelodeons 2012 TMNT Shredder is a absolute manace, bro one shots mutants like It's nothing
@@G128_cz Oh yeah, that show was in weird timeslot in my country so I couldn't watch that much
Yeah the guy is an absolute beast
@@G128_cz Dayum, well, thanks for the recommendation, I've been watching cartoons and Disney movies from my childhood this past month, I think i'll give 2012 TMNT a shot
Согласен.
After a while of fighting the shredder, batman stopped taking shredder as your average villain and fought him as if he was fighting Deathstroke and ras al gul
when shredder threw batman, batman stopped holding bck
If think enough, shredder actually is Ras Al Ghoul.
@@Jedai_Games no. You clearly haven't watch the movie aren't you? They are two different person
@@kakihustle55 no no no. You miss understand! I mean they just very similar. Very strong man, who is leader of a ninja-killers cult, and wants to destroy everything.
Yeah after he threw Bats. He know they were evenly matched
1:25 “I need to start taking you seriously…” 1:43 “I need to start taking you seriously…”
it is refreshing to see regular fights with skills honed through practice and discipline rather than seeing those op power fights that level a whole block just sparring.
That could've gone on for another 20 minutes and I would've been fine with it.
Miguel Rodriguez nah
@@KZheadsaysimCyberbully Yeppers
I doubt Shredder and Bats would've.
@@irvinmorales1409 They would have been too tired.
Miguel Rodriguez I would prefer another 20 min
Donatello: “I don’t know, Gotham and New York are pretty much the same.”
Spen trav yea except Gotham cities crime rate is up like 100%
Batman Lost!
Shredder retreated instead of trying to finish his opponent. I’d almost call that a draw.
Batman Lost!
Donatello throwing all the shades
I love how shredder only won because of his ace up his sleeve. It really shows exactly how good batman was, because (iirc) he really ever hardly uses it on opponents, only pulling out that absolute trump card of a move when shredder is facing up against someone close to his skill level.
Yeah, shredder fanboys are totally saying shredder one and I'm sitting here counting the million times. Shredder was countered and thrown to the ground and head smashed into beams and whatnot. Lol
Won*.. and I'm not a fanboy. I'm just counting how many times Batman was victorious in combat
@@recon_jon6151they were even that is what makes this fight incredible
Shredder: (uses smoke bomb) Batman: "you dare use my own spells against me potter?"
All these years later, I still can’t believe this fight really happened.
Yeah can't believe I was there.
My two favorite cartoons/characters growing up. Dream come true to see it.
Exactly, same here! @@Soopology
It was a terrific fight
Shredder did more damage in one fight than most of Batman's enemies manage in a week. Edit: Right so I forgot when I made this comment to make it as simple as possible for people to read since reading between the lines is kinda just too hard to do apparently. So the keyword in this post is most; "M O S T". Most as in NOT ALL OF HIS ENEMIES obviously motherfucking Bane is one of the exceptions. Education system man ffs, needs a full work over.
And Batman hurt shredder more than all 4 of the turtles in most fights
@@jonathantadlock-stein2023 Leonardo casually decapitating shedder in multiple media:
@@nocomment6012 funny enough in the comics when Batman fought the turtles he was only impressed by Leonardo like he was surprised Leo dodged most of his hits
@@ASS-tb3mq Leo isn't the leader for nothing. He is the second most strong and well trained Turtle. Losing only to Mike. But Mike isn't that good with focus and responsibility.
@@TheAsmodha sorry but mikey doesn’t come close aure he has potential but he has never shown that potential ever only in the last Ronan comic
Gotta love the slow-mo drop from shredder. Takes me back to watching the 1990 classic as a kid 🥲
I like how Shredder was gonna dip but when Batman grabbed him with his utility belt he was like *”ight bet”*
I love that it was such a well choreographed fight that really did both characters justice while also showcasing their skills. This scene is a cinematic masterpiece!
Your comment should've got 1000 likes
Lol they didn't even show half of Batmans skill.
The choreography from the raid 1 & 2
@dcmastermindfirst9418 You say that as if batman has never gotten folded like an omelet before. Yeah, your favorite "non-super" hero lost a fight. How sad that they made him mortal in one scene.
@tysoncarver5181 He's gotten folded by only two guys really. That's Slade and Bane. Both in which he came back and took both of them out. Shredder is much less intelligent and skilled than both of them.
My man Shedder wasn’t a complete pushover for a change.
@R.E.Z originally he wasn’t, he could take on the entire turtle team by himself.
He was never a pushover, what you were referring was only the Shredder from the 80s tmnt series
@@dakentaijutsu2010 Even then he was able to hold his own against the turtles.
@@Bluesit32 True. But those turtles main style of fighting was throwing a garbage can at their opponents. They're really not very impressive at all.
@@tommoore2012 Not in the old days, man. First or second episode where they go to the Technodrome to find Splinter? I mean, sure, it was just against robots, but there was no tossing of garbage. Just slicing and dicing.
Perfectly shows why the Ninja Turtles have such a hard time with this guy lol
*shredder uses a smoke pellet* Batman: "Theatricality and deception... powerful agents to the uninitiated..."
yes
But we are initiated, aren't we, Shredder?
you think the smoke bombs are your ally? mine are built my me, molded by me.
Excellent reference there
"You merely adopted the darkness.... *But I was adopted by it, too!"*
Every part about this fight is an absolute masterpiece. The tense music, the different fighting styles, both of them realizing they aren't fightjng an amateur, to Shredder using his blades against batarangs and Batman disarming Shredder. Even the way they used camera angle getting tilted as their head slams the ground; an absolute masterpiece.
To even showing you how batman first goes easy, then to *okay I better get serious and bust out some new ancient fighting styles to a enemy he's never fought before* Same with shedder by their facial expressions *it's genius* *I wonder who were the animators they deserve a lot of credit*
Camera?
Tengen vs gyaturo better
@@AYAYA_JUICER agree to disagree
Except the fact that Batman jump from the second story like a fruit basket otherwise it was an okay fight
I love analyzing fights, and this one is worth analyzing. Let's start with Batman. First, he uses his grapple to try to restrain Shredder, and then Shredder cuts it. Not many blades can do that, so obviously, Batman is perturbed bye this turn of events. A boss killing his subordinates isn't anything new to him, Joker does it when he thinks it would be funny, so that's not what makes him put up his guard. It's the very clear danger that Shredder's blades pose. Then when Shredder basically drops down without so much as making a sound, that's when Batman realizes that he needs to play absolute defense until he can figure out how his opponent fights. He's then told that zoning won't cut it, as Shredder effortlessly blocks his batarangs, and notice where Batman was aiming- The _face._ Batman usually uses these to hit the main body and chest area, but he knows that his opponent is so fierce and tough that he can't take chances and is willing to go for the eyes. A lot of Batman's tactics change to using grapples and throws to deal some damage until he's finally able to disable one of Shredder's claws, at which point he takes an advantage and manages to gain the upper hand until Shredder hits Batman's throat and is ultimately able to disable Batman with his technique. But that's not to say that Shredder was flawless here. Admittedly, his experience with otherworldly threats and mutants in general meant that Batman's intimidation tactics weren't going to work here. He had Batman on the defensive until the Dark Knight started grappling Shredder, where his claws wouldn't be as effective. He clearly showed a slight edge in speed, as he was able to react to Batman's batarangs, and as stated earlier: _Had Batman on the defensive for most of the fight._ But once his claws were gone, so were all of his major advantages. Shredder was then put on the defensive, and while he got in some good hits, it was clear that his reliance on his claws is what did him in. His final technique would have likely been a lethal one had his claws not been broken earlier. And while he tries to claim that he was being merciful, it was clear that he wouldn't last that long in a prolonged fight against the Bat. And even if he came out on top, a random thug, or one of the Turtles would have been able to easily take him out. This battle was an intense showcase of both fighters' arsenal and tactics, and while we don't see much out of Batman's outside of his batarangs and grapple, it was an awesome showing of his martial arts prowess and fighting ability. Going up against a foe that's completely new to him and managing a *_draw_* is incredibly impressive for both sides. We like to meme on how prepared Batman is for fights, but he was out of his wheelhouse for this one, and it showed. Meanwhile, Shredder was also in foreign waters as he wasn't prepared for an opponent who could actually disarm him before being stabbed.
The choreography in this scene is honestly incredible
THIS is what makes the Shredder so cool In a world of mutants with varying powers, the most dangerous villain of them all is a mortal man who happens to be a _damn_ good ninja. No magic and no mech suits
100%, being a great human ninja is so cool. And ninja are so resourceful, you can actually believe a great one could stand up to almost anything
Ninja are magic, the magic of OCD drives them to and sometimes beyond the upper limots of potential for human kinesiology.
The funny thing is that the statement can also be said for Batman, who is also a mortal man who happens to also be a Ninja.
Who also sometimes uses Mech suits and magic when needed*
Same goes for Batman
Shredder's slow motion landing, referencing the original TMNT movie was 🔥🔥🔥
Someone gets it.
So glad someone else got this!
Ohh I didn't even notice
I noticed that but wasn’t sure if it was intentional.
Yuppp!!! Noticed that too!
My two favorite cartoons/characters growing up. Dream come true to see this crossover.
0:49 i love this callback to the 1990 TMNT fight
As a fan of both series, this fight is so satisfying. Both characters get their hits in. Both show off why they are some of the best in their respective universes. The fight feels like it could have gone either way and would be hard fought either way. This is how you do a crossover and how you show respect to both characters. This movie is a love letter to the fans.
I felt like the Turtles were a bit downplayed in this movie, but I do agree Shredder and Batman had a hell of a fight.
@@Gigas0101nah let's see it this way the turtles master would trump any master batman has had in a experince however batman trained with mutiple masters and we can say that's what gave him the edge
Yea it’s a great fight I like how shredder has his slow fall entrance like I’m the og turtle movie
@@educatedskeleton1803Well it's not just his training, this ain't year one Batman, he has loads of experience at this point to the point where he'd easily take down his year one self even with all that training under his belt.
@saltyk9869 agreed. I love the fact that both got hits in on each other. It DOES show how both characters are the best. I just didn't know this was a movie. I thought it was an episode from the cartoon TMNT from the 2000s. But I should've known, cause no kids cartoon would allow that killing of the foot soldier
Shredder, being exactly as good against Batman as he should be, is such a treat
Шреддер не хорош против Бэтмена. Он стоит с ним на одном у ровне, что очень ярко подчёркивается.
Batman was dominating the fight. If Shredder hadn't used a desperate cheat, the movie would have ended right here.
@@corjonbett Sounding like some fan-induced rage to me.
@corjonbett Dominating? Nah. Shredder was in control at first, putting Bats on the backfoot and getting past his guard for the throw. From there Batman was able to bounce back, and it was back and forth till the end there. They were BOTH winded and hurt by time Shredder got knocked off the balcony. Give Shredder his due.
Dominating? The fight was pretty even. And Shredder flat out beat him clean.
I think a key thing that everyone is overlooking is that Shredder wanted this fight. He could have thrown that Shuriken at Batman's head on the assumption that Batman wasn't protected, so killing him would also prevent any info getting out and then engaged when it bounced off or whatever, but he didn't. He killed the ninja instead. Shredder was watching, he wanted the fight.
i think he didnt kill batman because it was simply dishonorable to do so
He instead could have easily thrown that shuriken at bat-man’s throat. I’ll bet my bottom dollar that was not armored at all.
Man, it's like Shredder was made to be a Batman villain.
Fr
Batman wouldn’t be able to handle shredder, not even with the Robins and Batgirl and Alfred.
Everyone from Gotham all together Vs Shredder, Shredder wins.
@@Hamilton-The-Unstoppable.good joke. Batman would fold shredder like an omlette.
@@Fauwkes Lmao. Shredder is Better in every Stat, literally Shredder wins every one in Gotham. Shredder easily Defeated Hun, Batman Drawed with Bane, Hun Folds Bane Easily!
Batman's strategy of a 20 foot telegraphed jump with his torso completely exposed into Shredder's ultimate attack didn't seem to pay off...
Batman forgot that this isn’t one of the arkham games
Plot needs a clumsy batman right now. It is not the batman we know its the batman we need :P
Yeah, it showed he could of jumped close the the rail. But of course he can’t go for a kick, it has to be a chest bump
It’s like the scene in kung pow enter the fist where the guy pauses runs through a scenario and ends up taking a spinning kick to the face
It seems that Obi Wan needs to teach Batman about how to win when he has the high ground.
"Who wants to see Batman vs. Shredder? What kind of kiddie bull....." *Ninja star to the head* "Ok, I'm listening....."
Who wouldn't like to see that
Lol 😆 🤣
🤣🤣
Shit got dark quick and that's exactly when my attention was grabbed lol
@oO{ Dawabo }Oo i want to see buu turn batman into a piece of candy and eat him. Lets see batmans plot armor get him out of that.
You know this is real stuff when a ninja got killed off like it was nothing.
They both have moments where they’re like “He gone make me bring out the good shit”
Batman was winning until the throat poke he underestimated shredder big time.
Bro had to sit and reevaluate his whole career after that lol
@@walleo1151 lmao
It seemed pretty even until then. I'm surprised Batman doesn't walk with a limp after that move Shredder did to his leg at 1:52. You hear SOMETHING crunch during that.
Poke poke
They underestimated each other
Batman vs shredder is like trigon vs darkseid No one saw it coming but when it did it rocked
But this is even, unlike Trigon vs Darkseid lol
@@RandalfElVikingo darkseid and trigon was pretty even. Darkseid just had to fight too many people before trigon.
I'd love a samurai jack × batman crossover or ryu hayabusa
@@therulerofthelastcentury871 do you believe batman can tackle the sword of samurai. I know he would easily outsmart him as samurai jack isn't the brightest
@@arslanreact I think they could end up as allies
Batman fighting the Foot Clan: "Ugh, ninjas." Batman fighting Shredder: "OH SHIT HE'S A NINJA"
Shredder had to pulll out a forgotten and forbidden foot clan technique just to not wake up from a coma several months later 😂
I believe the telegraphed leap down with cape outstretched is an intimidation tactic. It probably works on goons and most of his Rogue's Gallery once he's roughed them up, but didn't realize Shredder was warrior to the core, and got hard punished for it.
Especially if when you consider that nearly none of Batman's Rogue Gallery fights to the death, even Ra's will retreat when he's defeated, Deathstroke is kind of a tossup. He acts like he wants to fight to the death, but his self-preservation rivals his desire for a fulfilling fight
Agree bats made a mistake with that one. Shouldn't have assumed Shredder was down or scared.
“In that moment Batman knew he fucked up.”
@@faded9581 he got called a warrior by Batman but I think after he got that hit he realized one. That’s how Commissioner Gordon feels. 2 this is no scum this is a true battle tested warrior.
It’s not really intimidation it’s a sort of glide kick. Shredder punched him before he could land it.
Animator: how detailed do you want the martial arts to be? Producer: Yes
I have to admit this was a a beautiful battle
@@ambuknight1567 I wish this was the standard for martial art fights in any animation or movie. But then again, this probably took alot of effort and money.
@@steponbucket sadly more money then effort no doubt. But this style of fighting in movies and shows. This is what I love. Where you follow the fight clearly and not damper by motion blur or Shakey IN THE CHOAS camera lock.
Whats that punch that Shredder uses to beat Batman?
AND THIS IS HOW IT NEEDS TO BE
Shredder after leaving: "...wait why didn't I just hit that guy in the back of the head with my shurikan instead of that foot soldier? DAMMIT I'M AN IDIOT!!"
This fight I return to because shredder only gets a true fair challenge when he fights splinter. Like 1v1 type fights, seeing these two masters fist fight is a dream come true.
I love how they have they’re own different fighting styles. Batman is defensive and uses a lot of throws and he has all of his gadgets. While shredder is deadly and uses pressure points and weak spots
There is a reason why Shredder's defeats are mostly from a 4-on-1 scenario.
@@briansilva3344 even then, shredder usually 1v4’s the turtles, and sometimes even more than 4. It usually takes splinter to join the turtles or some luck for him to lose
Batman has no distinct style since he basically has mastered every fighting style in planet earth and even knows alien martial arts. Yes you read that right, alien karate
Jalil Johnson yea I know so that means that he adapt a different fighting style for each opponent
Well Shredder goes for the kill, Batman goes for the disarming part. It is indeed both logical and exciting that people who made this thought of that. Batman's tecnique was never about killing, not even for his worst opponents. Shredder seems to be all about taking his oponent's life first and foremost. Bruce did get this natural hatred for killing, at least first-hand ever since the incident with his parents along with other stuff.