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If you are reading this, comment: "Man, that footage of Sonic doing taxes was a crazy thing to add to the movie, though! He's a hedgehog! He doesn't owe taxes!"
y u gotta sneak diss golf like that? ill beat u at golf any day of the week/month/year
there are comments with tens of thousands of likes, and ted pins a comment with 7 likes threatening his position as the golf king
personally I could take him any day of the week, maybe not any day of the month quite yet
@@spiceyicey and that’s why we love him 😊
This guy is clearly a film producer...
thank you all golf a lot
Internet outrage saved the Sonic movie, imagine if he still had those weird ass human eyes? There's no way there'd be a second
Yo Patterrz, what's up. Just randomly looked into the comments and immediately saw you. What a coincidence
And the teeth.. Dear god, the teeth....
@@MidnightDrake What? They were beautiful
Nah man that was all secretly a marketing tactic watch the game theory video
it was because Harvey weisntein was not part of any of it production
Basically it boils down to: Don't change the world or the characters, but write a completely original story using those already established factors. I know it's not a movie, but Arcane is a perfect example. They didn't change what the world is or who the characters are, but they still added completely original character arcs and plotlines, and it worked super well.
same thing with castlevania!
The thing about Arcane is that it's a sort of What If situation. Where had something went differently in the original game plot line, it could have become that
@@samueljacobson470 but the whole story was already canon, it was just fleshed out in arcane.
Doesn't even have to be a completely original story, the Witcher has some plot arcs ripped almost straight from the games (at least that's what I've heard, never played the games myself). I think it depends on whether the games have a major plot or not. For something like Sonic or Hitman, where the story doesn't really matter, an original story that follows the rules of the game but still uses the main characters works best, while more story based games like Halo or God of War should follow the games fairly close since the character and story combo is what people enjoy
@@ast3rix the story of Arcane isnt canon actually
"the sonic movie works because no one really understands the sonic lore" is easily one of the funniest takes i've ever heard and also makes me want to get in to sonic for the first time at 20
Can confirm, every bit of Sonic lore I learn is so out of pocket
its actually a fairly decent story, i highly suggest the IDW comic, its actually fantastically written and the art is flawless
As someone who was obsessed with Sonic from the ages of 5-8, it makes me want to learn the lore
@@strxwbxrry_420 I'll be honest, you should probably ask MatPat to decipher it all. It's a LOT. You never know, could be his new FNAF.
wait until you hear Ace Attorney lore
Another thing about the concept of "meshing Sonic with the real world" that I'd like to mention, is that if you are someone who plays Sonic games, you know how often they like to pair this Hedgehog with anime style counter parts. We as fans are SO used to Sonic actually not fitting his environment perfectly, that it has developed his charm. Making Sonic stand apart from his human counterparts actually made him seem more realistic because of this in the live action film.
The only game where Sonic was with anything resembling anime was Sonic Adventure
Do you not remember sonic 06
@@moolydamoo2267 I forgot that there was one anime character in that game while everything else was “realistic”.
@Confused Memer We don't talk about Shadow
06 wasn't that bad. @@moolydamoo2267
Man, that footage of Sonic doing taxes was a crazy thing to add to the movie, though! He's a hedgehog! He doesn't owe taxes!
Funniest shit I ever seen
I was about to comment this 😔
Wacky
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check the vid description
You forgot to mention that in the Mario movie, their names are canonically "Mario Mario" and "Luigi Mario"
I think that's canon in the games too
@@magziewheeler might as well they never say their last names
they are the "mario brothers" after all
the best movie ever, i downloaded it with and without subtitles, only took 2gb
@@magziewheeler I believe it actually is yeah...that would be a weird read on a passport.
Ted: *tries to figure out canon lore of Sonic* Brian David Gilbert: HEAVY BREATHING
Detective Pikachu was freaking fantastic, I was worried that they'd go too realistic with the Pokemon designs, but it was just the right amount of the anime format we know while adding plenty of real world details. It certainly put into perspective how terrifying/gross some would be if they actually existed.
i was just glad that for the most part they didn't end up doing the 'realistic pokemon' design choice of making them look grotesque, which has always been a fanart favourite for some reason.
@@russianbot8576 They actually had a huge internal debate at one point because The Pokemon Company had a hard stance of "they _all_ have to be cute" for that movie. Sounds doable but then... Lickitung. There was a whole team of people responsible for making a CG tongue smearing across the main character's face look cute and realistic at the same time.
@@russianbot8576 To be fair, Garbodor and Bruxish wouldn’t be cute in our world. Some pokémon would be grotesque. Omastar would be scary as hell, and people would have legitimate phobias of Parasect like they do spiders. Like, sure, Bulbasaur and Purrloin would be cuter and “anime-er” than our turtles and cats, but the throbbing veins on Gurrdurr would be kind of gross in any other artstyle.
For one of my milestone birthdays, all I wanted to do was see that movie (tight on money as we had actually celebrated a while before). I wasn't particularly interested in Pokemon but knew a fair bit about it and my god, it was amazing
@@finalfroggitapproaches6418 they were cowards for not having garbodor.
Speaking of video game movies, this reminds me of a funny story! I was on my way to see the first Sonic the Hedgehog movie in theaters when it came out, and while I was waiting for the movie to start, I saw Ted Nivison enter the theater! I blushed so hard, realizing I was going to be watching the movie in the same theater as one of my favorite KZheadrs! I knew it would be inappropriate to go up to him and say something, so I just looked at him from afar. However, during the trailers, he caught my gaze and immediately stood up and started to walk towards me. Before I got a chance to think, he grabbed my leg and told me, "You're not going anywhere." He pulled his trusty hammer from his pocket and broke both of my kneecaps, letting me fall to the floor. As I tried to reach for my knees and soothe them, he grabbed my arm and whispered, "You're too slow..." He smiled as he poured a bucket of popcorn on my head and covered me in butter. Before the movie could even begin, he dragged me out by the legs, and of course, when the theater staff saw a person with broken knees covered in butter, they immediately kicked me out of the theater for indecency. It was one of the most horrific experiences of my life. Classic Ted!
They had us in the first half not gonna lie
this is real effort
had me in the first half ngl
holy fucking shit
wow! i sure hope i can MEET MY HEROES ONE DAY. NO WAY THATS GONNA GO BAD RIGHT? r-right?
I just love how Ted is just attaching his microphone to random objects to look like a more traditional microphone
Ethan Becker be like
or a pine cone
The horrible human being, Gus Johnson, has been doing that for years
I was waiting for him to pretend to stab or chop something while still talking away.
I didn’t even notice until I read your comment.
I love the fact that Ted's microphone keeps changing. This is incredibly amusing. I want this to happen more in his videos
Ted's explaination of what makes a good adaptation made me think about why fanfiction is so good. You can take a whole show of characters, and write them into a story where instead of doctors they're all members of traveling circus. As long as the characterization (and writing) are good, it works.
The Castlevania show is also a very good video game interpretation. It is obviously way more mature meaning it limits itself in regards to potential audience, but honestly super accurate to the games. Also honestly makes me think animation is the way to go with most video game adaptations.
Yeah I remember that and it litterally is just Castlevania the game, but with a bigger world and setting. It is pretty good
Not to mention they do a fantastic job of making Dracula a sympathetic yet terrifying villain.
yea
It’s truly hopeful how good castlevania is. Like it’s not a good video game adaptation, it’s an astounding show period.
I think it's majorily live actions that do bad. Castelvania is a little easier because the medium is closer than live action. Although we still know there are bad non-live action shows and movies but they are fewer for sure.
Love how Ted attaches his microphone to random shit like a pinecone and a knife instead of just holding it normally
Im glad not to be the only one that noticed xd
The knife one was cool because I could see the reflection of the background in the blade
When I was a kid, my parents bought the Super Mario Bros movie for my brother and I on DVD. We loved every second of it. I’ve seen that movie at least 15 times. Everybody recognizes that movie as a cataclysmic failure at this point, and that’s absolutely fair. The plot is nonsensical, the characters make zero sense, and the comedy simply doesn’t hit. But for me, the nostalgia is off the charts. I could watch that movie 15 more times, and I’d love it every single time. It’s atrocious, but god damnit, I love it.
Isn't this the case with Spy Kids and Sharkboy & Lava girl? I feel like so many movies back then were complete acid trips.
@@extreme989 Bro watching spy kids 3D reruns on cartoon network was the shit. It's awful but the nostalgia bait hits me so hard
My dad made me and my sisters watch it and we loved it. I love bad movie’s sometimes they are so good lol
I would absolutely love a RDR movie because it's just a western. Anyone can make a western.
To be fair the RDR games are basically just western movies with shooting sections.
@@personman8734 with an awesome story though
Cowboys VS Dinosaurs
As a Sonic fan, seeing someone else discover the moon thing is very funny. I can’t imagine how confused you became reading about the Archie comics. That is a rabbit-hole and a half
Oh god I think someone would blow up if they tried to make sense of the Archie comics lore
...you ever seen the Snapcube dub of that scene?
at least the artwork is really nice in those comics.
@@virginiaf4117 I've come to make an announcement-
Oh man, imagine the realization about the Fleetway sonic or the first sonic lmao
The great thing about Tyson Hesse is that he's living proof that being a fan can be rewarding. He made this super popular and crazy funny Sonic parody comic in 2006 (or slightly earlier) that blew up and eventually got him noticed by the Sonic team and he's been participating in Sonic media creation for years now. It's nice seeing a promoted fan actually do great work for the series they love.
@@KINGJERMARCUS and I hope he strikes it down
Sega do be like that
damn, that's really fucking cool
One of the things I love about bad movies is they give me massive amounts of unearned confidence. Movies take millions of dollars, several experienced and talented writers, and involve hundreds of people to work. Comparing (most) professional film writers and directors to the average person is like compering professional athletes to casual bowlers. And yet, sometimes we little people are allowed to, for a brief time, know that we could absolutely come up with something significantly better than someone who secured millions in funding, hundreds of people, and not only wrote but directed, filmed, and produced this incredible feat of making a movie and still failed spectacularly. When someone like me, who has as much confidence in my ability to write as my ability to fly unaided, can come up with a better plot in the back of my head in a few minutes, it makes me feel amazing. It's like it's on purpose just to make us randos feel better. Every time we think "I could do better than this trash" we gain a bit more confidence, a bit more motivation. Maybe the next great film will be made by someone who is just trying to prove it isn't that hard.
Especially since we are now able to look back at a time when people believed it was impossible for Hollywood to adapt certain properties because of how complex they might be. Regardless of what you may think of them, having Lord of the Rings, the Avengers, Game of Thrones, and other properties that were once unheard of come to fruition is just amazing in my opinion and proves that with the right support and resources, any adaption is possible. I’m not saying it’s easy to adapt anything but even outside of video games I think most film and tv adaptations need to just accept the logic of the material they’re adapting and roll with it by getting people who know what it is and how to make it. Especially since I think people who love the material and are also extremely talented creators may be able to come up with better solutions on how the fix minor problems or introduce necessary changes. It’s why I cringe whenever I hear people say an adaptation of Stephen King’s the Dark Tower isn’t possible simply because at this point I think it’s been proven anything can be adapted as long as you have the right people and resources.
This is the same effect that everyone who has even thinked about writing something got when screenwriters wrote the line "somehow, palpatine returned" for the explanation of how the main villain of the finale of a multi-million dollar franchise came back inexplicably
@@BostonMBrandStill holding out for a Blood Meridian movie adaptation...
It’s funny how similar of a problem the OG Mario movie and Velma have “Let me just take this IP because it’s the only way anyone will let me make a piece of media, but I want to do my own thing so that’s just what I’m gonna do” And in the end they both just ended up proving their ideas were in fact not good enough to warrant an entirely new IP, nor should either of them have been allowed to have creative control of… Probably anything
His statement of “it’s not your world to mess with” perfectly sums up why I hated the new Halo TV show. It had the Halo title, and then the only similarity was the names of the characters. Literally nothing else was done faithfully to the games other then the names.
it has like 4 episodes and everything about it has been pretty lore accurate up until this point. idk what ur on about, the only major thing different is that modern weapons are somehow still around (even though in canon a person literally used an MP40 to fight off the covenant during the invasion of earth, so idk) and it's in a different timeline, which is a good thing. the writers have more freedom and fans dont have to worry about anything that could mess with the canon.
Yep. They did master chief dirty
I completely agree, I’ve been playing halo since I was 6 and loved every moment of it (except halo 5) and it just makes me depressed that the halo tv series isn’t close to the story of halo at all. and the thing that made me stop watching it was the producers allowing to show master chiefs face.
@@christophercollins8621 bro u stopped watching at episode 1 and then said "it's not not close to the original story at all"
It sums it up well, as does the following line: "And if you do, it'll *probably* fuck you"
i think it's worth mentioning that sonic movie 2 goes even FURTHER with its dedication to being true to the games, kind of blowing the first one out of the water in that sense, and it paid off in spades. it's now jim carrey's biggest box office opening yet. that should really show how much good it'll do studios to stay true to their source material.
@@waawaa205 bombshell deployed onto a city of 6 million, inches away from detonating
Honestly Sonic 2 is the best video game movie by far
@@i.d.9754 facts
Exactly the first movie walked so the second could run you can't 1 expect everyone to know sonic lore and you can't just shove a bunch of exposition down their throats. The first 1 eased into the lore and the second took off with it.
@@habijjj it ran with it like a certain blue character...
12:35 the rock having a big SEMPER FI tattoo across his back is the most accurate thing about the marine corps in the whole movie
Detective Pikachu is genuinely one of my favorite movies as someone who loves Pokemon, I absolutely loved seeing Pokemon be portrayed in such a realistic art style and I loved the world building. Edit: the writing and acting is not good I watched it again
From what I remember, it was bad. Mainly the writing.
If there's anything previous video game movies have taught us, it's to respect your source material. You don't HAVE to copy the story scene by scene, most movies that adapt books don't follow them to a T. This is a show, but I still think this applies. The people that created the show were fans of the IP and immersed themselves in the lore of castlevania to find a good spot to make a show. They took liberties, merging certain plot points and removing characters to keep the core cast strong, and it worked. It's mentioned here, but detective pikachu also does this very well. It sticks to the lore of the series and makes sure to follow certain rules behind the source material, the pokemon games and detective pikachu game, while also taking necessary liberties to make the movie flow in its screen time. Long story short, video game movies and adaptations just need to be treated like book adaptations: follow the source material as much as you can. If you have to make a change, make sure the movie doesn't stray from what the source material is about.
Yea this is exactly why the Halo TV show sucked. The directors were almost proud they had never played the games. There's such a bourgie attitude against video games in Hollywood despite plenty of them making fat more money than any movie franchise.
Well shit, maybe they shouldn't have copied the Big Bertha crushing on Mario from the Japanese comics, that were under supervision of that hack Miyamoto, what does HE know? Or the fact that originally Mario was MEANT to be like Popeye or Goofy, where the characters just play roles, like, say, the EXPLICIT theater references in SMB3. Almost like the CREATOR is the one who made the games just a retelling, which wouldn't surprise me in the traditional Japanese gaiden-storytelling. Which basically can be summed up "it's fiction, you neurodivergent, there's no 'canon' ". It's not "insane", it's just NOT being on the spectrum. Making these compartmentalized, escapist, "relatively real" stories about "canon" IS insane, it's by definition believing in two contradicting things at once. You peddlers of what Orwell warned us about might be the real bourgeoisie.
@@sboinkthelegday3892 It's good to know the creators of this movie took into account the Japanese comics when thinking about Big Bertha, That definitely would have ruined the movie if they didn't add it in. The creators of the movie may have looked at the source material and taken some things into account. I know SMB3 is supposed to be like a play, so a movie where it's all just a play would have been a cool concept. But a movie where two plumbers travel to a dystopian dinosaur-people world and must shoot plasma blasts at enemies to save the day isn't what I had in mind when I thought of a mario movie. I also have no idea what you're talking about in that last paragraph there, I'm guessing it's about storytelling and what's part of the canon lore or not(?) I also have no idea where George Orwell's warning came from. Either way, I think looking at the "lore" or source material for anything is important when making a production. You don't have to contribute or pander to those that want to see all these things represented within the game's franchise, you just need to make a film that respects the source material and tells a story that would make sense in the game's own set up universe. Or, even easier, just tell the same story as the video game, just make some small changes that would better tell the story in a movie.
@@lanceams483 Referencing 1984 without having read it or any of Orwell's actual work is just trendy lmao
Just discovered this guy and I have to say. He’s freaking brilliant! This is amazing editing and pacing. I want more movie breakdowns
Like Jschlatt yet?
A Marine having a giant Semper Fi tattoo across his back is the most accurate part of Doom.
You absolutely nailed one of the reasons why the Sonic movie works for fans. Even if the movie was fine, it's a breath of fresh air for us Sonic fans because SEGA and Sonic Team have been giving us terribly written stories. Even if the stories are fun, like Sonic Colours, it still doesn't fully capture what Sonic is. The movies so far has given us amazing character writing. The movies aren't groundbreaking but they're so special for me because it's been over a decade since I've seen Knuckles actually act like Knuckles. I can criticize the movies to pieces but I love them regardless because they've given me something that I've lost. Sadly the dutch adaptation is absolute garbage...
I love how they choose the most gameplay-prioritizing games to remove the gameplay from. Like Super Mario Brothers, known worldwide for its excellent storytelling, and Doom for its in-depth and phsychologically neuanced protagonist.
If you ask me, it can be summed up as either of these: "Screw you, fans. I do what I want, and you can't stop me. In fact, I'll beat you up for thinking I suck." The Uwe Boll problem "I never/barely touched the source material, but I know it better than its biggest fans or the ones who made it." The other, more common problem
Idk I kinda like the re movies because they just throw the source material out the window after the first 2 movies and just throw on a bunch of action schlock and set pieces.
Karl Urban playing the dude named Reaper in Doom makes me really want Karl Urban as Reaper in a live action Overwatch movie
The old live action Mario actually haunted my dreams for a while when i was younger. For several years as an adult I scoured the internet looking for what I thought was a 90s horror movie. I could only remember weird details though, like the texture of the fungus and the fact that there was a princess who's dad had been taken over by some sort of weird goo. I spent so many hours googling the things I remembered and combing through lists of movies i thought it might be on. And then last year Jacob Sharpe made a video on the live action Mario and I realized I had never been looking for a horror movie, thats just what my tiny child brain thought it was.
It made me feel really unsettled as a kid too, and spawned several nightmares I can still remember vividly 25 years later.
Imagine a Kirby movie, but since there couldn't be a natural difficulty filter all the young children get to have nightmares for days
So a Kirby movie that becomes as dark as Dark Souls in the last 15 minutes.
@@harlannguyen4048 or as dark as, well, a kirby game
Can we just take a moment to appreciate his pine cone and the knife (there are multiple knifes) AND the spatula microphones?
And the knife 😭
@@kawaii8582 Yeah, I just saw it
not to mention the spatula
@@virginiaf4117 I did not see every single one
The Tetris movie was amazing. Not really ABOUT Tetris but about the legal battle.
9:09 People who force their headcanons do this. I don't mean people who make headcanons in general but people who send death threats to the creators for not making that headcanon true.
I think one of the most interesting cases was Arcane. Sure Riot did a lot of work beforehand with their whole League of Legends universe. And they could have settled for a mediocre story and us fans would have be satisfied. But they didnt. They poured their hearts and souls into it and gave us the best video game adaptation ever.
One of the best, Castlevania is also great
Indisputably the best film of 2021, can't wait for season 2
Arcane was, in my opinion, the best animated series Netflix has produced in a while, much less the best video game adaption.
@@arthuredington6171 Yes it was amazing too
@@bluesilkwing9408 Yea totally. But for me its also the best video game adaptation, because it did not have Sonic's blessing of not having to deal with story. But League of Legends already has their huge universe. And they fitted that show almost perfectly into it. That's not tl say that Season 2 can go downhill, but for me the effort plays a huge role aswell.
when the sonic movie came out my dad agreed to take me and some of my younger siblings to see it but we all had conflicting schedules so he SAW THE MOVIE THREE SEPERATE TIMES with each of us like the fucking hero that he is.
Your dad is THE Gigachad
@@abadjoke1772 absolutely
did he at least like the movie?
@@pansquakes I mean it’s not a bad movie, and he didn’t complain. I assume he at least enjoyed it the first and maybe second time.
the fact that ted will use anything but an actual mic is one of the best parts of the video
Team member: We should make a Mario movie Director: Yes, but the thing is, no.
I can't believe that Ted didn't even talk about the Detective Pikachu movie The first 90% of the movie was awesome, the last 10% deviated heavily from both the core game continuity and the actual detective pikachu continuity but it wasn't too terrible. The designs were meant to be realistic but not to the point where you couldn't tell some of the more 'normal' pokemon from their real world design inspirations, and there were a ton of nice designs just organically in the background of scenes (i.e. there was at least 1 instance of a few Comfey chilling around some plants, and during the abandoned lab scene the Torterra in the tent were just big chillin as their habitat was sprinted through). While not every character had a goal (or at least a good one), that's to be expected (i.e. the police chief is just a police chief), and all in all there were plenty of good character moments and the movie itself never really fell flat with any of the things it tried to do (especially the comedy- it's hard to mess up comedy with Ryan Reynolds there, but then again the Doom movie messed up action with the Rock so it's not impossible)
Don't forget the background golurk
I really liked the Detective Pikachu movie- and I didn’t find too many inconsistencies with the lore of it. Even though the whole “soul swap” situation was pretty cheesy, it’s still accurate to the lore because of the Mystery Dungeon games.
That’s because it was a way overhyped movie after how many Pokémon movies and tv shows.
It's a great family movie, it's not some Homerian epic, it's not the godfather, it's a nice movie you can watch with your family and friends and be happy about. It doesn't give much to be angry about as well, it has the fun pokemon thing for the kids in the audience while the more mature people are invested in the family drama thing. Overall a 7/10.
@@netapel2625 The exact same thing could be said about the Sonic Movie
As an unfortunate child that saw the Mario movie in theaters, I was actually pleasantly surprised by how good Sonic 2 was
It still blows my mind that (so far) we live in a world where the Sonic movies are generally better than the Super Mario movie we got so far, especially considering the Mario games are generally considered better and more consistent compared to Sonic’s high highs and LOW lows. Hopefully the new Super Mario Bros movie will finally give Mario fans something to cheer about outside the games themselves. The fact that it is clearly going to be 100% bright and colorful animation like the games themselves is definitely a good sign, but the other fact that it’s made by Illumination is less of a good sign…
Same. Honestly those two Sonic movies made me feel like a kid again in a good way.
@malchi08 That sounds like a (mostly) awesome timeline where capitalism isn’t obsessed with “unlimited growth” despite the obvious problems that poses to our limited resources and even the quality of our entertainment.
Ngl watching this video I thought this was a joke didn’t realize it was real
@@person-ol5uf very real, very sad
Lmao your transition threw me off at 2:28 I legit for the next 10 seconds thought you were giving a quikc summary for Jurassic Park...im over asking wtf is Ted talking about.😅
I'm glad I wasn't the only one 😂
My friend got me a DVD copy of the Super Mario Bros movie that he found in the bargain bin at Walmart for my birthday a few years ago. We now have a habit of getting super drunk and watching it every year for my birthday, except for the first year, when we watched it sober. After that viewing experience we both agreed that we were never going to watch it sober again.
"No one knows what the lore for Sonic IS." *Looks at Shadow.* Honestly if they just completely make up an entirely new story for Shadow I'd be absolutely fine with it as long as some key elements are there: Maria, Gerald, and G.U.N. With how screwed up Shadow's past is, with no clear cut DEFINITIVE version, they have total free reign to make movie!Shadow's backstory whatever the hell they want. And in Shadow's case, that might well just end up saving this character and making him the best iteration since Sonic X.
to be honest, i still have the soul of an edgy preteen because I LOVE shadow in whatever he's in. he's just such an unashamedly, refreshing edgy character
@@SwizzleDrizzl I think part of that comes from his tendency to be brutally honest. He couldn't give a fck if what he said hurts it's just the truth. Dude didn't even bother explaining himself in Sonic X that episode where he tried to kill Cosmo cause why bother it would just upset everyone. That's where his complexity comes in. He does care, he just goes about it in a really roundabout way 😂 ahh shadow. I can see why people love him as edgehog, but I'm so over the fandom misconstruing this character to the point they think he's ONLY edgy when that's just not the case.
@Nigel Stoney lol I don't condone good actions. I'm just saying I understand it. Shadow didn't know Cosmo so if course it would be easy for him to make that call. Would be be able to if it were Maria it Molly? That's what makes him fascinating. You don't know.
Fun Fact: Bob Hoskins was stabbed 4 times, electrocuted, and had a finger broken while on set of the Mario Bros movie. Coincidentally these same injuries were all caused to Schlatt and Charlie by Ted.
The 1st segment about the ‘93 Mario movie the brought up how, in the director’s mind, the film was meant to be THE true story that the games were a very loose adapted from. Which got me thinking of how that could’ve been explored better in an alternate version (preferably something closer to the 1st drafts). So this is what I came up with: Mario and Luigi are still plumbers, but Luigi is a programmer and has taken an interest in the recent growth of the video game market; believing there’s big money in it. For the last while he’s been making small games on the sidelines. Various of his past game and pitches have flunked, except for one: Donkey Kong. Now, currently he’s been stumped on trying to create a follow up. One for home gaming systems this time. Everything in the mushroom kingdom happens, ya-da ya-da-ya da. Boom! Luigi has the inspiration he needs and the rest is history - this then could lead into future sequels w/ implementing later games and adding in elements from them into the film. Well, what do ya think? Its not much, but hey, a little bit of change can go a long way
Hey @Ted Nevisin, in that Mario movie, Mario and Luigi were actually father and son, and their last names were Mario
The editing in this is absolutely incredible. Great job to whoever edited this. I love all the jumpcuts and different places you show up to talk about the subject.
I wrote it like that! Where I only spoke the lines that meant to happen in each those locations- my boy Archie did a lot of the front loaded organizing work and green screen setup (and also a lot of visuals like that Chris Pratt bit) and I came in and did the rest
@@TedNivison well it’s really cool! the editing is really unique and cool, you should totally keep this style.
That interview with Rocky Morton where he said he wanted to be free from the shackles of making a video game adaptation sure does remind me a lot of an interview given about a TV show adaptation for a popular fps franchise that released recently. It's astounding how those two nearly identical creative decisions were made like 30 years apart and it's been disastrous both times
At least Mario Bros was interesting. That certain series' adaptation is just boring.
@@iamafish7 Should I mention that the directors of the Mario Movie were to never work on a Feature Film ever again?
Trying to figure out what the said series adaptation may have been and by golly the only thing my brain is producing is "high school musical"
@@milk.meister.mcChonky I think they're talking about the Halo series! iirc the creator/writer/whatever of that show said in an interview that they'd never actually played the games or something like that
@@raveng8217 i thought they were talking about Resident Evil but yeah Halo makes an amount more of sense
I really wish more people remembered that the Lara Croft movies with Angelina Jolie were actually pretty sick. Solid action movies that actually involved raiding tombs.
And then the Mario movie turns out to be really good
I’m so glad the sonic movie was actually good. For the past few years sonic hasn’t really been taken seriously by anyone in the gaming community. It’s seriously cool as a longtime sonic fan to see so many new people excited about the franchise
HOPEFULLY, hopefully hopefully hopefully SEGA will turn these brand new Sonic movie fans into long-time Sonic game fans with Sonic Frontiers (or at least a Sonic Mania 2). Given the game franchise’s inconsistency, I’m bracing myself for a Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric-like worst-case scenario where Sonic Frontiers flops hard, SEGA makes some bizarre anti-consumer decisions like making the Switch version Cloud-only or slapping NFTs and in-game ads into the PC version, the new fans are quickly disillusioned, and the inevitable 3rd Sonic movie suffers as well if people decide it’s not a good idea to get attached with the Sonic franchise, even if the third movie turns out to be even better than the second one! I’m sure SEGA and Sonic Team are well aware of this pressure to do better, though, considering they’ve finally realized that releasing one or more AAA games each year is no longer feasible as video games become bigger and more complex…
I have no clue how people can be sonic fans, 80% of sonic games are just total trash, but the other 20% are fucking bangers.
@@natebox4550 It’s that 20%.
@@natebox4550 You just explained why people are sonic fans
@@natebox4550 For me, it was the comics. :/
24:11 Correction: He did not blow it up, he pissed on it.
The "hollywood knows best" mindset also plagued comic book movies I believe? I distinctly remember there being a gritty x-men movie with the characters mocking the idea of them wearing "yellow spandex" obviously meant to be a jab at the source material. And then the MCU happened
To paraphrase kaptainkristian, “Cosplayers have been doing comic-book accurate outfits for decades now. What’s Hollywood’s excuse?”
Man I remember I was walking down the sidewalk playing Mario and classic Ted came over, broke my phone (and my kneecaps), and then stole the remains (of my phone AND kneecaps) and took them to an Apple store, got them made into a phone and he gifted me that phone…Classic Ted always helping the poor
Not going to lie, over the years, the Super Mario Bros live action movie has grown on me. I just see it as an avant garde retelling of the Nintendo franchise lol.
Lol
no.
I feel it's like Space Jam. People thought it sucked at the time but it's kind of loved now (not loved like it's a good movie. It still isn't, it's just fun)
@@KINGJERMARCUS wow mario likes your music thats amazing
So... it's a "So bad, it's good" type of movie?
Another thing. Dont make OCs important at the expense of established characters in the series. Alice in the Resident Evil movies and Cole Younger in the recent Mortal Kombat movie is a prime example.
Or that girl from Halo.
Idk I gotta disagree on the Alice thing I think the movies eould have gotten boring without all the Alice stuff. I really like that after the first 2 movies they just go crazy. Cole 100% is fair as fuck tbh he could have been redeemed if his ability wasn't stupid.
Mission Impossible got rid of all the established characters and replaced them with Tom Cruise's Ethan Hunt. Getting rid of source material characters entirely is a viable strategy that solves some baggage problems.
@@jacobsoper4708 Ok I didnt even know Mission Impossible was an adaptation until you said this so that may not be a good counter argument
This obviously doesn’t pertain to video game movies, but that was one of my major gripes with 2011’s The Muppets. Literally who wanted Walter??
3:35 the towers
19:19 Who needs 'em?
This was a really fun video dude! You went a lot more in depth than what I’ve seen other people do when they talk about bad video game movie examples and even talked about stuff I didn’t know about, like the backwards logic of the director for the Mario movie. But man, am I happy that Sonic is at the forefront of good VGMs. As a big Sonic fan, it feels so rewarding. Also, I was surprised at how much research you actually did for Sonic lore. When you talked about the moon just…turning around I was like “Oh fuck-he DID do his research XD”
You can thank Connor for that moon reference
yea
I remember a MatPat video entailing that making a video game movie in a certain place, where the profit is less than the budget guarantees profit? It’s a wacky idea but I think that’s what happened in most cases
23:51 Personally I believe this is the same reason Arcane’s story worked so well. Even hard core league players I know barely know anything about the lore, and even if they do, the lore isn’t very “airtight” and is more of a “guide”, so the Arcane writers had more free reign to change things up without upsetting people. RIOT helped a lot by being a large part of the writing
It definitely helps that riot completely uprooted the lore and changed it entirely
Same with Mario, barring games like Galaxy which only solidify that the story is fluid. This video is just avalanche of hindsight assumptions and pretending it explains a pattern that "would" work, ignoring when the exact advice is followed and it didn't. And the idea that Hollywood legitimizes comes from games themselves, ALL THE TIME when you hear video game storytelling praised it's because we finally got good CUTSCENES, pieces of MOVIES. Something like Dark Souls storytelling would look like Eternals, and it failed hard.
Arcane's real advantage is that Riot can literally change canon whenever and however they damn please as long as it fulfills certain parameters like the character's place of origin. Anyone who moves in League (specifically Arcane) circles has probably heard of the Vander/Warwick theory by now. Basically, there's this guy in Arcane, Vander, who perfectly matches up with what we know of the champion Warwick before he became all furry and lost most of his memory. The kicker in this case, though, is that Warwick's lore was actually changed a few times and the lore Vander matches up with is the most recent one- which was created DURING ARCANE'S DEVELOPMENT. You can't tell me the showrunners didn't have a hand in this.
thank god someone brought up arcane
@@hypernova8867 well yes they are fleshed out in lore but as some of the other comments on my original comment pointed it, it’s constantly evolving and changing. I don’t really have the ability to describe it, but it’s more of a surface level thing, with so much more under the surface that can be explored. They took the big ideas, like Zaun v Piltover, which is a big part of the game, and fleshed out why they’re fighting, who’s on what side and why, etc.
I love how he attaches the mic to random stuff, like a pinecone or a knife.
The accuracy with which you predicted the COD snafu was terrifying. Show, not film, but STILL.
I watched the original Mario movie as a very young child. Even as a braindead toddler with no concept of what a movie plot was I was confused and, mostly, horrified by this movie. Truly an experience I won’t forget.
The Sonic movie does a really good job on representing the series and sonic 2 knocks it up 10 fold! It feels like they actually know something about the series.
I haven’t seen sonic 2 yet, but sonic 1 was really bad. I don’t get how so many people like that movie.
@@NuggetGX the 2nd is better than the first trust me
@@2Lowfy okay, guess ill have to check it out soon!
15:30 You forgot the main plot point, demons killed you pet bunny rabbit. That is what makes DoomSlayer lose it.
This is only the second video i watched from Ted but i love how he's filming in like 4 different places in his home instead of just filming the whole thing in his chair on his desk 👍
I like the new editing style! It's far easier for me to stay focused and engaged, which is generally difficult because of my ADHD
Thought I’d have some fun with the different angles rather than just me in front of the camera, glad you liked it!
@@TedNivison Weird flex but ok.
Can we talk about how that one dude gaslit himself into believing he was writing the original Mario story and the games were spin-offs despite the fact that there were already seven games with their own lore?
i love how detailed this is, you've clearly done a lot research. also the editingis incredible. awesome video love you ted!
Fun fact about those sonic comics you mentioned: The sonic from them is possibly one of the fastest and strongest speedsters in fiction, rivalling the comic continuity flash in terms of speed.
I'm glad Ted found out about the Sonic lore where Sega desperately wants you to believe that the moon is still exploded without actually showing it. I feel like that's not talked about enough.
Ted and Eddie are like the recasted dad in an 80s movie for the second film. You know it's not the same guy, but it's close enough that you don't think about it after 5 minutes
9:20 Funny. I heared the exact same from the Rings of Power creators and the new SW writers. No wonder that modern entertainment is dog s*it.
A special mention to Arcane, which is one of the top series of all time, despite coming from a game and community a lot of people despise.
league of legends: 😐 arcane: 😍
Both the game and community are especially despised by people within the community too which is funny
@@thefunniestvalentine4789 lmao tru I have played league for 5 years, and um arcane pog, league shit
@@princesstoni8116 I know I’ve been around since 2013 and the depths of my hatred for this game are deeper and stronger than anyone who hasn’t touched it once
I love how Jinx in the game is just WILD AND WACKY WAHOHOHO character but in the show.....she's just sad and needs a hug.
they made multiple Lego movies accually. Lego movie, Lego movie 2, Lego batman movie, Lego ninjago movie... propably others... and the thing is, I think they're all good, as are most of their Shows (the new Show Lego monkey kid already has a hyper dedicated fanbase and it looks rlly good), but I think that's because, and I'm saying this without a hint of sarcasm, Lego has like the best Team of writers of any Company in the world, Lego writers are so cracked!
In the OG Lego Movie, they used actual legos for motion blur on characters! If you go watch the spaceship building scene, you can see our spaceman friend have actual legos behind him as motion blur. Lego Movie writers are genuinely cracked at their movies. And I wish other movie adaptations also worked off of it.
But Lego isn’t really a video game primarily tho
@@bigman7025 you're totally right, but ted mentioned there being Lego movies so I referenced that
@@chanmandeath2993 that's crazy!
I’ve been watching Lego Ninjago recently, I’m shocked by how good it is. Keep meaning to rewatch the original Lego Movie, didn’t appreciate it enough when it first came out
Discovered you from Teds’ RFC road-trip video and your video was on my home page. Loved it!!!! The two videos together are so funny! I’m subbed now, you’re great and hilarious, I can’t wait to binge all your videos
I still remember watching the Mario Movie when I was a kid and being just utterly confused about what the fuck that movie had to do with Mario
Sonic the hedgehog 2020 was honestly the best video gaem movie I've ever seen. It stayed true to it's characters, it's funny, there's plenty of action, and the people making movie literally fixed the original design of sonic because everyone hated the first model.
The thing is, when they released the first trailers, the probably didn't even start making the movie, they fixed it and then made the rest using the fans criticism in mind (which alot of movies do) but while the two sonic movies were really good, detective pikachu was also really good in my opinion
I actually really hate everything about the sonic movie.
@@sophasaf not really if you look at the uncut parts of the movie there's scenes that were totally in the workings that used that original sonic model and now if you look they fixed that really well. Also the uncut scenes were scenes that no longer really exist in the movie's inner workings.
@@NuggetGX is it okay if you elaborate on why?
@@bapple8693 theres multiple reasons. The movie should be 2 seconds long, as sonic is a character known for super speed. Instead of getting an awesome movie in his natural environment, we get sonic in a car for 2 hours ripping of scenes from x men movies for no reason. Like, if he didn’t know where to go to find the city, why didn’t he just run until he found it? Or why didn’t he just run into a store and get a map? Also the shameless promotion in this movie really took away the soul of it and made it seem corporate, like they didn’t care about or respect the ip. Every other scene somebody is talking about olive garden 😂. Also, the final act of the movie is once again pointless, as sonic could have just ran up the wall of the building instead of getting in a suitcase. And they for the most part sideline sonic, and sonic character’s for boring generic humans that serve 0 purpose to the plot, and are just crutches because there too scared to let sonic be sonic and run around like crazy.
anytime Ted posts i feel like the world swallows me whole and whispers "you know what's gonna happen" and i black out and wake up and my watch history is just Ted
The problem has always been that Hollywood looks down at video games as a lesser medium for art and always think that they can "do better"
One of the best Video Game movies that I’ve ever watched is actually a movie most people have never heard of (probably): Professor Layton and the Eternal Diva. The movie is incredibly accurate in translating all of the characters into a movie and even keeping the core aspects of what made the game so special, which were the puzzles. If anyone can find it on KZhead, I highly recommend it, especially if you were a fan of the series
Maybe some of these adaptations should be TV shows instead. But many should definitely be animated. Castlevania showed us it could work. And it could solve so many problems with these mediums. Like, for example, turning goombas and koopas into live action creatures when Nintendo never had that in mind. Or translating a game with complex plot into a much less interactive version to make a equally immersive yet timely experience as it goes on (like, for a Zelda game, that would be perfect).
Super Horni Brother was the bomb though.
"I don't think anyone knows what the official Sonic lore is." Brian David Gilbert knows. He knows. And he's been forever changed by it.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fever dream that was Mortal Kombat: Annihilation that movie was traumatic as hell...
I love the random items he uses as microphones, its amazing.
The Cuphead Show on Netflix, in my opinion, is also a great example of video game media improving. In the same vein of Sonic, there is not a lot of lore built into the original game. It is mostly a bunch of fun, interesting worlds and character designs that you interact and fight with. This allowed the creators to build story around those settings while giving them enough creative liberty to bring their own interperetations of the characters
Another commenter mentioned Castlevania as well! I feel like the few shows that have been made are much better.
And also arcane
I was wondering how I had possibly forgotten about the inter dimension ‘dinoland’ in Jurassic park but then I realised he was talking about the early plot of the mario movie 😅
Literally same I was so confused to the point I thought other countries had different versions of Jurassic park 😭😭 like..”the one I watched was nothing like this😧” and then I clocked that he was talking about mario again 💀
I love how Ted is just hold around a little pinecone as his mic, it’s so adorable
I know it technically isn’t based off a specific movie but I found Free Guy an amazing movie. I think it helps that it was made by Ryan Reynolds. They took in so many aspects of video games today as well as little blimps from past video games. My family had a great time watching it. My parents (who are in their 50’s) Don’t ever really enjoy video game movies because they don’t understand them. Free guy had had enough references that even they were laughing. It was well thought out, and I thought the story was really fun. Some parts of it were kind of cringe he but I think that’s what helped it appeal to the audience is
I love how the mic gets clipped onto different objects each time Also love the vid Ted it's really funny and I enjoyed it :) Keep up the amazing work king!
1993 Mario Movie director "I wanted to find a reason to free myself from the game, it freed me from being shackled to any portrayal of the video game" 2022 Halo Showrunner "We didn't look at the game, we didn't talk about the game. We talked about the characters and the world. So I never felt limited by it being a game" (200 million dollars budget btw) History repeats itself. It just sounds like they couldn't write a story comparable to the game so took the easier/lazier route
Meanwhile people on the Halo subreddit downvote the shit out of me when I say the paramount show blew ass. It's so fucking horribly terrible but these people must be suffering from the same brain defect as the people who *LOVE* all the new Star Wars garbage shows and movies. Sorry about the rant, this shit just gets me riled up lol
This was just another job to them. They don't give a shit about video games and felt that they could wing it with their "superior filmmaking skills" that they got overconfident and didn't take it seriously. Did you know that the guy who directed the Goblet of Fire film didn't even read the book, saying it was "too long"? Pisses me off every time I hear him talk. I wish box office bombing was the kick in the nuts some of these haughty Hollywood assholes need.
To be fair though, the mario director actually played the game and had a vision of how to transform the game into a different movie he (and his wife) wanted to make, and it was the first live action full length one where Nintendo was (mostly) on board with it. whereas the halo people just didn't seem to give a shit and took even pride in that they hadn't even touched the game.
I'm 100% sure that Steven Spielberg wasn't a real producer for the halo show, and was just there to have a recognizable name. When he said *HE* was adapting halo several years ago, a ton of people go excited. A few years ago after seeing no news about the show, knew right away that if the show did come out soon, it would be awful. Development hell can usually be seen as a bad sign for Hollywood
The mario movie is at least fun.
is this your era of your mic being attached to random objects ? i love it. love the clairo merch too, you got good taste in music, ted.
ted i’m begging you to do the differences between the book & movie of farenheit 451. you’d love picking apart the horrible differences in world building and big major plot points
I actually think that another exception to bad video game movies is Uncharted. Don't get me wrong, it's not amazing, but it's entertaining. Yeah, Tom Holland feels too young to be nate, but he does a good job with the character, as he played the games himself and he understands Nate. The games already played like a movie, so it had an advantage here. Anyways thats just my thoughts!
I think a lot of the charm of it came from Tom because he said that he’s played the games himself. He even said he threw in a few references to the games that the directors just didn’t understand I guess and cut. Other than that it’s the same kind of thing that he said about people not knowing much about the games making a movie and then hiring A list actors.
There was a movie based on a DS game, Professor Layton and that was actually very good. It was like an extended cutscene from the actual games and I loved it. Has anyone else watched it
I thought you meant dark souls and i was about to get hella angry
I didn't know there was a Professor Layton movie, I love those games, I own all of them! Thank you for mentioning this, I'll be checking this movie out
@@LibbitySkibbity No problem, it's called Professor Layton the Eternal Diva btw
@@assman3862 why would you be angry about that
I remember my brother got a DVD of it, twas pretty good from what I remember of it
21:20 why did it take me TWENTY MINUTES to realize you taped a pair of headphones TO A KITCHEN KNIFE to represent a microphone????!
Mario teaches typing is how I learned to type. So happy you mentioned it!