2024 Elections | ANC and MK scrap over name and logo: Karen Kitchen

2024 ж. 26 Нау.
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The Durban High Court yesterday heard arguments from the ANC and the uMkhonto weSizwe Party legal representatives over the use of the name uMkhonto weSizwe and the logo. The ANC says it is a matter of public interest that any voter confusion caused by the unauthorised use of intellectual property should be clarified before the elections take place.
Addressing MK Party supporters outside the Durban High Court, former ANC president Jacob Zuma said the ANC should not cry foul as it is the governing party that decided to do away with uMkhonto weSizwe.
Judgment in this case has been reserved. On Tuesday, the MK won the first of the two court battles between the parties when the Electoral Court dismissed the ANC's application to have the MK Party deregistered.
Joining us virtually is Karen Kitchen, an Intellectual Attorney from Breedenkamp Intellectual Attorneys, to discuss this further.
For more news, visit sabcnews.com and #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.

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  • ANC must accept democracy and compete with MK on Ballot,

    @jameskillu9171@jameskillu9171Ай бұрын
  • Little ANT 🐜 vs ANC... the difference is the 'T' & 'C'

    @user-lh2mk4um5s@user-lh2mk4um5sАй бұрын
  • They are not the same

    @victordihangoane9664@victordihangoane9664Ай бұрын
  • Big question why had ANC disbanded this umkhonto we sizwe in 1993 ?

    @famandasibisi7314@famandasibisi7314Ай бұрын
    • Was to protect white establishment and white interest because was going to be always a threat to them

      @jurodahgabriel1816@jurodahgabriel1816Ай бұрын
  • This 😂😂😂 kant which logo Anc is going to use on ballot paper is MKMVA logo now ANC logo isn't the same as MK PARTY logo

    @celumusazikhali7040@celumusazikhali7040Ай бұрын
  • anc must just forget is over they w never win on DALI🤣

    @thabomonyamane3596@thabomonyamane3596Ай бұрын
  • So funny, the lady analyst got lost for whole 15min, 😂😂

    @Nomngcefe@NomngcefeАй бұрын
  • Forget wecongolose kuphelile ukudlimalizethu

    @philagedeza8742@philagedeza8742Ай бұрын
    • Uyahhuma wena!

      @mandlenkosishabalala8890@mandlenkosishabalala889026 күн бұрын
  • U Duduzani wayibona kudala le ngqondo kayise yokufaka kwi Guptas ukuba immoshele ikamva

    @user-ix4mq9fe6j@user-ix4mq9fe6j29 күн бұрын
  • Anc founds king and queens fighting imperialist and the anc did the same as many other organizations and people, ANC have no right to claim that all event or organization formed to fight imperialist was part of anc even 16 June 1976 they claim it their event it a shame

    @nhlanhlakubheka222@nhlanhlakubheka222Ай бұрын
  • How convenient

    @user-lh2mk4um5s@user-lh2mk4um5sАй бұрын
  • This so called expert is blowing hot air. Question is, would a reasonable person get confused in the ballot both when ANC logo and MK logo appears? The answer is no!!! All the other waffling is just to chow our data. Worse, the closely related logo she’s arguing is registered with a different Entity; Legacy Project. I give her 8/10 for retaining the expert gig and then 1/10 on honesty and impartiality.

    @philanisangweni2875@philanisangweni2875Ай бұрын
    • I see you are, like the expert, also an expert and a qualified attorney with legal credentials in intellectual property, trademark and copyright law. Where did you get your legal qualifications and where do you practice intellectual property law? I'll wait...

      @patrickbusschau1559@patrickbusschau155922 күн бұрын
  • Phambili nge MK phambili

    @thatomoso@thatomosoАй бұрын
  • How the snake swallow itself. 😂

    @njala3038@njala3038Ай бұрын
    • ,,😂😂😂ehee 🕺🕺🕺🕺💚🖤💚🖤💚 Viva MK

      @phumlamazibuko3003@phumlamazibuko3003Ай бұрын
  • I wonder where you get these people who know nothing and they talking but they saying nothing.

    @mlungisingobese112@mlungisingobese112Ай бұрын
  • Oksalayo we are voting for MK

    @sellomorabe9274@sellomorabe9274Ай бұрын
    • I'll vote the anc because of the MK

      @comrade9374@comrade9374Ай бұрын
    • ​@@comrade9374😂😂😂😂🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺💚🖤💚🖤💚Thatha Msholozi

      @phumlamazibuko3003@phumlamazibuko3003Ай бұрын
    • Please VOTE Eff From 🇸🇱

      @suzy7348@suzy7348Ай бұрын
    • Jikijela Mkhonto jikijela!!

      @mosesponga6896@mosesponga6896Ай бұрын
    • Asijiki✊💚🖤

      @samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231@samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231Ай бұрын
  • Who cares about either of these 💩 parties. They suck

    @elloohno1349@elloohno1349Ай бұрын
  • This lady is not annalist she is ANC layer but still she is lot

    @PETRUSTEEMatome@PETRUSTEEMatomeАй бұрын
  • Listening to the rational, it then makes sense to create parties like AMC, AandC, MnK with yellow green and black colors and spam the ballot paper.

    @jkoorts@jkoortsАй бұрын
  • Viva MK ✊🇿🇦🌍 power to the people

    @Moonlight-dg9wq@Moonlight-dg9wqАй бұрын
  • How is these logos confuse electorates / voter's whereby the ANC is trading with a completely different sign. The ANC sign, participating in elections, has a wheel on it, MKs sign does not. The mk anc is talking about is not a political party and does not participate in elections.Hope I'm not lost.

    @mikemckerson1527@mikemckerson1527Ай бұрын
  • Kitchen knows nothing about the history of SA politics. MK belongs to the black liberation struggle against white Apartheid regime and not exclusively to the ANC. No one will confuse the ANC with the MKP

    @vusibiyela6032@vusibiyela6032Ай бұрын
  • MK IS THE SAME WIT ANC

    @user-dp3sr6fh1x@user-dp3sr6fh1x29 күн бұрын
  • Common Law versus Intellectual property ( trademark) lets see the evidence play out

    @uYahbonaEmbo@uYahbonaEmboАй бұрын
    • Legally they should protect it as their legacy before disbanding it.

      @user-gu4df7mk6x@user-gu4df7mk6xАй бұрын
  • ANC still has MKMVA and has its members who were in MK still alive and receiving salaries from ANC . They didn't throw away the name MK.

    @Greatness-dd6pi@Greatness-dd6piАй бұрын
  • Logos are too different 😅

    @Hottmilk@HottmilkАй бұрын
  • I'm Voting for MK, mbalula can keep on crying

    @njabulonzimande5806@njabulonzimande5806Ай бұрын
    • ANC will win

      @comrade9374@comrade9374Ай бұрын
    • @@comrade9374 who said it won't win

      @njabulonzimande5806@njabulonzimande5806Ай бұрын
    • @@comrade9374 who told you it will? Open your eyes

      @Coco-kw3iv@Coco-kw3ivАй бұрын
    • You going to vote for a man that's criminal? Yeah the future you dream of sounds fun..

      @dean759@dean759Ай бұрын
    • ​@@comrade9374😂😂😂

      @phumlamazibuko3003@phumlamazibuko3003Ай бұрын
  • If the logos confuse a voter, they should read the name of the party on the ballot paper. Not a rocket science...

    @paulshaw3882@paulshaw3882Ай бұрын
  • MK = ANC Full stop. Even if you disban; is not to say that it gets dis-owned by you the original user owner creators organisation....Disban is on works to memebers as in functions opperations. The files are still there as it is history and is records...I mean...it is news and in the gerner .public......so if the then (so now) owner ANC wanted to re-establish MK they have the right. (ANC MK same whats app group in anycase. )

    @weymouthesterhuizen1145@weymouthesterhuizen1145Ай бұрын
    • It happened a few decades ago when DP was disbanded DA was born. Too scarry😨 🤡

      @christinanxumalo6811@christinanxumalo681129 күн бұрын
  • Life bafowethu😂

    @user-pq7bg8lb8n@user-pq7bg8lb8nАй бұрын
  • No can't be this is not similarity

    @muzikayiseNgubane-gf3rt@muzikayiseNgubane-gf3rtАй бұрын
  • No similarities - voters will decide

    @khonadlamini2948@khonadlamini2948Ай бұрын
  • Hhayi they can cry bafike la bethanda khona, MKP asijiki

    @sicobelelanangolwazi9151@sicobelelanangolwazi9151Ай бұрын
  • Refreshing to listen to someone who knows their thing. If the ANC had done their homework and hired this lady they'd win - thankfully Mbalula is "sleepy SG". The logos are indeed similar but the ANC has no exclusive rights to it. Mbalula was asleep when the ANC was supposed to object. Zuma has resurrected and improved something the ANC tossed to the rubbish bin long ago. The ANC is behaving like an ex-spouse/partner being jerlous of the the ex's new relationship. They must get a life. VIVA MK VIVA!

    @TSG0195@TSG0195Ай бұрын
    • True

      @zandilepatience9219@zandilepatience9219Ай бұрын
  • Abantu mabayeke amazolo abo mababheke inamuhla kanye nekusasa labo bakhohlwe I material things e.g. anc and mk logo

    @user-om8gk9xj9c@user-om8gk9xj9cАй бұрын
  • Utter nonsense.

    @thamimasuku3443@thamimasuku3443Ай бұрын
  • waste of time, ANC

    @BioNetNeta@BioNetNetaАй бұрын
  • Copy right.

    @user-hm6en7si1b@user-hm6en7si1bАй бұрын
  • ANC had abandoned common law right as far as Umkhonto wesizwe.

    @user-gu4df7mk6x@user-gu4df7mk6xАй бұрын
  • I like Zuma bcoz of one thing even intellectually they are confused about his moves.....undermine Zuma at yr own risk

    @thapelohonest7019@thapelohonest7019Ай бұрын
    • If you look away he’ll steal your money

      @elloohno1349@elloohno1349Ай бұрын
    • Whose money did Msholozi steal? The Main Stream Media has destroyed your thinking capacity. You fail to identify the real thieves bcos the same media is not telling you about them. You love thieves and hate innocent people. Birds of the same feather flock together.

      @user-ot2uh5bl4c@user-ot2uh5bl4cАй бұрын
  • This lady is diverting from a question do both logo of ANC and MK of ballot paper the same cause the MKVA logo won't be in a ballot paper but ANC logo to be precise. It confirmed no similarity to confused us voters

    @bonginkosidu@bonginkosiduАй бұрын
    • True

      @lennyphekani@lennyphekaniАй бұрын
    • Exactly she is a liar this one

      @lonwabomlawu1188@lonwabomlawu1188Ай бұрын
  • Main point never bothered to protect it when initially applied secondly it's not confusing at all not identical in positions lastly Zuma & concerns Mzansi citizens who suffered oppression & legitimate freedom fighters have ownership rights not sellouts of democracy therefore Mk party are still qualify as are still in war to gain genuine democracy that ANC abused by defending their power for their gain not for ALL MZANSI CITIZENS as it should be Vuka Mzansi Vuka vote Mk party to arrest protected hyenas who eat Mzansi citizens alive

    @user-ns3zr7yh3p@user-ns3zr7yh3pАй бұрын
  • This lady knows how to defend apartheid gains 😊

    @user-sy1wy6mn3z@user-sy1wy6mn3zАй бұрын
  • Plutocratic ventriloquists laughing at the whole situation, Indeed we the black people are conquered because we are divided

    @leratomrali6964@leratomrali6964Ай бұрын
  • im an eff fan but mkp seems to be rattling the cage..amazing

    @sobaentertainment6580@sobaentertainment6580Ай бұрын
  • This marks are not the same viva mk party yabantu

    @celumusazikhali7040@celumusazikhali7040Ай бұрын
  • This lady must not insult herself in the Near future to say the Logos are Similar or People will be Confused. People born in 2005 are voting this year they know nothing about MK and you telling me I cannot have a Spear and Shield as a Logo is a Joke😂😂😂

    @SphakamisoDaProposal@SphakamisoDaProposalАй бұрын
  • MK party can't stand on its own. It lacks confidence

    @hgfku-tn6hb@hgfku-tn6hbАй бұрын
    • 😂😂😂😂 with 9.7m members sizimele futhi asinyakaziswa lutho sobonana kwi vote 29/05 is a set date💚🖤💚🖤💚🖤💚🕺🕺thatha MK

      @phumlamazibuko3003@phumlamazibuko3003Ай бұрын
    • ​@phumlamazibuko3003 it's 10.3m now😂😂😂😂

      @isintu1044@isintu1044Ай бұрын
    • It's doomed to failure.

      @harley1450ification@harley1450ificationАй бұрын
    • Your story doesnt add up. They are standing on their own, as u lie in this comment section😂😂😂

      @phillipmoagi883@phillipmoagi883Ай бұрын
    • 😂😂😂 interesting

      @Ankiazuza@AnkiazuzaАй бұрын
  • 😂 you are confused yourself.

    @michaelmbetse340@michaelmbetse340Ай бұрын
  • MK is noble and strong. MK is the future. They should take Anc & EFF teach them a lesson they will never forget.

    @user-ez9en7vk2z@user-ez9en7vk2zАй бұрын
    • Are you sure of what you are saying?😂 come 29May you will swallow your words

      @user-wo7fe7bd9r@user-wo7fe7bd9rАй бұрын
    • Are you stupid? Zuma was president and he stole more than anyone. Why give him another chance to take more from us and ruin the country further? WHY?

      @elloohno1349@elloohno1349Ай бұрын
    • @@user-wo7fe7bd9r Nope.

      @user-ez9en7vk2z@user-ez9en7vk2zАй бұрын
    • Manje EFF ingena kuphi la, EFF is far way much bigger than MKP, you will see just after 29th

      @MzeeLusiki@MzeeLusikiАй бұрын
  • Please help me make sense of this Zuma is to sick to go to jail but his “bek” is not sick to go flapping and making trouble outside

    @blueberryhill6948@blueberryhill6948Ай бұрын
    • DID YOU CMPLAIN ABOUT CLIVE DERBY-LEWIS FLAPPING HIS BEK AFTER BEING RELEASED ON MEDICAL PAROLE? NO. SO KEEP YOUR STINKING BEK SHUT.

      @muzigumede9861@muzigumede9861Ай бұрын
    • You have a stupid mind set 😮

      @michaelmbetse340@michaelmbetse340Ай бұрын
  • This lady is reasoning without reasons

    @kansiiimebrian5254@kansiiimebrian5254Ай бұрын
  • U are captured wena

    @Hottmilk@HottmilkАй бұрын
  • Bottom line is they don't care spending our money,fight for nonsense,obaba is the spear,none can deny it,vote mk. Obaba will win this fight,too wise,too quick,squirrel is an old snail,go obaba,we love you

    @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrouАй бұрын
  • This woman must go study MKMW constitution before commenting 😂😂😂😂

    @isintu1044@isintu1044Ай бұрын
    • She is lost

      @lennyphekani@lennyphekaniАй бұрын
  • MK after old age Zuma is nonexistent, now it's at sunset stage from its birth for any of us with logic to worry about, come voting day, let public judge

    @ManteMumty@ManteMumtyАй бұрын
    • 😂😂😂😂😂😂 you shortsighted

      @isintu1044@isintu1044Ай бұрын
    • The ideology never dies

      @fredyprintworks@fredyprintworksАй бұрын
  • Which logo will be on the ballot for ANC. They will use Mk logo that they claim or they will use ANC logo

    @muzichonco6134@muzichonco613428 күн бұрын
  • Viva Mkhonto wesizwe...✊💚🖤💚🖤💚🖤

    @nkosinathimgidi-xy4zx@nkosinathimgidi-xy4zxАй бұрын
  • What people must know these Elections are addressing the Elections of 1994 of Mandela (White Chosen) vs Chris Hani (Majority people's interest). The Spirit of MK soldier's has been crying this is lond overdue. People with Vote for MK for the Love of MK not cos its Similar to ANC.

    @SphakamisoDaProposal@SphakamisoDaProposalАй бұрын
  • aibo nangu umlungu bo esangana

    @mlungisingobese112@mlungisingobese112Ай бұрын
    • Sengathi kusangana wena!

      @mandlenkosishabalala8890@mandlenkosishabalala889026 күн бұрын
    • @@mandlenkosishabalala8890 uneminyaka emingaki?

      @mlungisingobese112@mlungisingobese11225 күн бұрын
  • Viva mk viva✊💚🖤

    @samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231@samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231Ай бұрын
  • A very dishonest analyst. You can see she is lying right through her face.

    @lonwabomlawu1188@lonwabomlawu1188Ай бұрын
  • What difference will Zuma now make? he was the worst president when it comes to corruption..handed the country over to the Guptas

    @user-ff3qz4mc1x@user-ff3qz4mc1xАй бұрын
    • 😂😂😂😂😂😂Propaganda imnandi inenze nikhulume izinti ezingekho

      @phumlamazibuko3003@phumlamazibuko3003Ай бұрын
    • To you was worse,to us was the best president now he is standing for himself not for ANC zyakhala manje.

      @musamkhize9328@musamkhize9328Ай бұрын
    • Uyisilima awunamahloni ukubhaka into engekho,wezwa bekhuluma babhala amanga ngo Msholozi usukhuluma into engekho.what about Phala Phala and throwing our country down to the drain.mawungazi u othula amanga awasansndawo.indaba ye Gupta kwakuyinto yokumsusa into engekho😅😂😅.

      @ntandoshezi7874@ntandoshezi7874Ай бұрын
    • Msholozi is much better than ramadollers, what have big nose done so far?nothing!so stop talking if u have nothing 2 say viva mk viva chest pains all over.

      @user-wc6de1ws3l@user-wc6de1ws3lАй бұрын
    • The mostly uneducated voted for the ANC. They've just moved their vote to the worst most uneducated president since 94. Cyril is weak, JZ the other side of the coin. i.e stupid.

      @harley1450ification@harley1450ificationАй бұрын
  • You sound like you don't know what going on In south africa. When you say Zuma did nothing 🤔

    @brianmbongeni1986@brianmbongeni1986Ай бұрын
    • Maybe also the forgot about State Capturing and the Gupta's, zuma and Zondo commission?? Dont be ignorant!! South Africa nearly bancrupt because if them!

      @corneliacoetz243@corneliacoetz243Ай бұрын
    • What hepen

      @muzikayiseNgubane-gf3rt@muzikayiseNgubane-gf3rtАй бұрын
    • @@corneliacoetz243 results of watching eNCA and reading news24

      @lennyphekani@lennyphekaniАй бұрын
    • IF YOU REALLY HAVE EVIDENCE THAT ZUMA STOLE YOUR MONEY, THEN WHY TAKE HIM TO THE ZONDO KANGAROO COURT (AKA STATE CAPTURE COMISSION) INSTEAD OF A REAL COURT OF LAW?? IT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT CAN STAND THE CROSS EXAMINATION THAT YOU WILL BE SUBJECTED TO IF YOU MAKE YOUR ALLEGATIOS IN A COURTOF LAW. AT THE ZONDO COMISSION YOU CAN TALK AS MUCH B!@#S ABOUT ZUMA AS YOU LIKE KNOWING THAT YOU NOT BE CROSS EXAMINED. IN SHORT, IF ZUMA STOLE YOUR MONEY GO TO YOUR NEAREST POLICE STATION AND OPEN A CASE, SIMPLE AS THAT.@@corneliacoetz243

      @muzigumede9861@muzigumede9861Ай бұрын
    • You are condemned

      @marshalmagoae1252@marshalmagoae1252Ай бұрын
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