Mci bus has some very serious safety issues to address. Mci 102D3
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The wheels were about ti come off of this bus. Stripped out wheel studs, very dry rotted airbags, bad shocks and more.
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That shop is getting better looking every time you show it
If this channel has taught me anything it is to give a wide berth to any converted, non-fleet bus I see on the road. For every one that BGM sets right how many more drive around with wheels about to fly off, wobbly suspension, clapped out bearings etc?
Makes you wonder if these RV's should be made to have mandatory DOT inspections like a truck considering the state so many of them seem to be in. Maybe not as frequently as a truck - possibly an initial VERY thorough inspection after conversion and a regular inspection every 2-3 years would be pretty fair considering they're not doing the mileage of a commercial truck.
Many states have yearly inspections for cars, why not a bus?
@@harveynailbanger Massachusetts does have inspections for all vehicles, but I don’t know if they are going to catch all these issues.
@@harveynailbanger Most states' annual vehicle inspections are a farce anyway, so I don't know that there's much value in expanding them.
@@markjames8664 ye I agree there not going to catch a lot of this stuff unless they jack up wheels and pry on them, pull tires and drums to see brakes and check bearings.
I can't believe he never lost a wheel! Amazing!
Thanks for keeping your customers safe along with the traveling public. You guys rock. 👍🐕😎
Great to see your videos back. We are also interested in how the home build is coming in the back of the shop. Thanks for posting as often as you can. Love these videos.
Happy Father's Day to you guys haven't seen sign on the TV lately or fixing any good busses but still happy Father's Day to all you guys thank you
That rust remover is freaking awesome! I will get me some of that. Thank you Scott and Tyler for what you do and for providing the videos. This is education and entertainment.
This is reminding myself of a safety blitz done on U-Haul truck rentals in the Province of Ontario Canada. Our Ministry (department) of Transportation Safety department along with Ontario Provincial Police vehicle safety officers stopped every U-Haul Truck on our major Freeways for a week+/- period. Sadly there was not a single truck that was allowed to continue without having safety concerns fixed. The poor people that rented the trucks were stranded as a replacement trucks were bought to Scales to change out there belongings to a better truck, before the transfers occurred the replacement trucks failed the roadside safety checks. Your past two videos have shown some dangerous buses that were on the road, In my home province of Ontario Canada all vehicle's over about 10 pounds must have an complete annual safety check done before a new licence permit is granted. Is there similar safety steps in the USA? If a tire came off these buses the result is a death sentence to the small car they may hit, let alone a bus that is out of control that lands upon a small car. Thankyou for cleaning up two buses that can now travel the roads protecting other road users from an unsafe vehicle.
Unfortunately here in the US the powers that drive DEREGULATION are to blame for a lot of safety standard removals!.......
As well the MTO would pull over a lot of US tour buses for inspections and the most troubling story we heard was the brakes where only operating at about 13 percent capacity. I can assure everyone in Ontario that the Provincial Transit agency of Government of Ontario. Keeps their buses in top shape and the drivers are never made to move a bus that they feel is unsafe. Safety is job 1. I know it might sound like a no brainer but there are companies that can pressure drivers to take sketchy equipment on the road. That’s where the problems start and lives are lost. And you’ll mostly see that in the private sector.
That's terrible, but that's good, without safety checks done we are all in trouble on the roads.
European here (Austria). We have very strict inspections for buses and trucks (well, cars too) and no way something like this would have escaped our inspection. Years ago after the end of Communism we used to get old East European coaches and trucks which were like that but nowadays even they caught up (and our police does stop and check anything from a "suspicious" country like Moldova, Belarus or (until recently) Russia).
Even with MVI there is a way around it. Hell for $100 in Nova Scotia anything is safe. If you know what I mean.
Thanks for posting All the best from Scotland 😁
Shop looks really great gentlemen, shes come together lovely.
Great vids. Thx for the mass upload tonight.
I used to drive the MCI J series coaches... those were awesome rigs!
Scott and Family , what a great time to have your shop up and running and producing with onsite repairs ..With the price of fuel , traveling just isn't economically doable .....Good timing....
Wow Scott that guy is sure lucky he didn't lose a wheel or three ...holy cow that one was BAD. Good work to you, Hunter, and Tyler... and Keep on keeping on!
I must have missed the video of you putting up the garage, to work on the buses, so glad to see, you have now entered the big time, so glad to see, as I said. but I have to ask is there a part 2 to this video, would like to see the new parts installed,
Hello the bus mechanic warriors :D The rust remover seems tp be really good ! I have a wheel stud to replace too but I ordered the wrong ones ^^ not an easy thing to find the right ones. Cheers from France, full support! !
That Fertan Rust Removal is very good at removing rust.
Nice job on the rust remover !
Those damn shocks!😄 I just did the same for our bus.
"The Wheels on the Bus go round and round" ... till the threads on your Studs give out ... LOL
It's an eye opener to how safe buses and campers are save on all roads in every country here in England a truck and trailer are tested every 8 week's as the carry heavy loads to our shops and ware houses and docks and they are people that will pull you over to check on health of vehicles if not pass the company or owner gets fined and it's towed to a compound till the work is done and everyday it's in there you pay a daily fee for storage.
That theme song is really good 👍 love it!
Hey, look at the bright side on the shock. It sounds good!
He wasn’t saying I have enough air pressure! He was saying I need to build up air pressure! Lol 😃
It scares me to think there's these buses and trucks out there are less than professionally maintained like this bus, overtightened, not paying attention to detail. We buy these big rigs putting our life at risk when we trust certain so called mechs, I'm happy someone like you point it out and sometimes go after them to fix there mistake. Maybe you should be a master consultant somewhere, I don't know. If they are not watching your channel to get a clue we are all in trouble across this country and maybe others I fear. Thank Bus Grease Monkey, greatly! You actually save lives.
The rust remover was amazing.
It’s very sad that you guys don’t do KZhead videos anymore we sure missed them they were really interesting and informative to watch you will be missed
Just been crazy busy.
@@BusGreaseMonkey I understand can’t wait to see you guys again
regular maintenance ?......GM appreciate your observant eye👍
Neet! This what I bought and am converting to an RV. Got it from Rochester City Lines in Rochester MN, so it has had regular service and maintenance.
They put it on one of their pits and I got to do a visual inspection of the underside. I did not see any of worn bushings, shocks, and rust (and looked for after watching your videos). I did not do as through of an inspection as you do. I also got some of the history of the bus from Boss, mechanics, and drivers. They have been really great to work with.
That rust stuff was crazy! Can't believe how it made those chrome tools look! Have you ever used any other rust remover products on similar tools to compare those results too?
SKIN IN THE GAME! thank you!
I like your different, Video Outros
Good evening mr. I’m running a Detroit 471 two valve head on a sawmill. This is my second 471 on this mill (first one number 2 piston came apart) anyway, the mill bogs down more than I think it should in the cut. Do you have any governor videos? Can I even adjust the governor? It is a “sw-vs” and it has HV6 injectors in it. And advice would be great. Thank you.
This Bus BARELY made it to the top of the Bus Grease Mountain! It must have know it was going to get a new life if it got there!
Howdy there. I just started watching your videos, Some really awesome coaches and awesome mechanical work. I was wondering if there is anything specific that y'all think I definitely should check for on a 1992 MCI 102c3 with 6v92ta and an HT740 Allison and possibly a 1997 MCI 102dl3 with Series 60 Detroit and Allison b500. I'm decently familiar with 2 Stroke Detroits, Series 60 and both Allison's. Basically anything specific or unique to those years and models, that I might not be aware of. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Liked and subscribed. Sincerely, C.M.
keep the clips coming
This is why I highly recommend before purchase inspect as much as possible(if you can bring a bus mechanic, thats even better). Then after purchase take it directly to a bus mechanic. Fortunately, I live near US Coach (and know Bill and Luke well[great guys!])and that's exactly where mine took its first trip after I bought it. Bill found quiet a bit that needed attention(all not visible unless you are under it). The scary part is this bus was driven from Ohio to NJ by the previous owners and was allegedly purchased from a bus company.
As a coach driver for the past 38 years (and still going), I can tell you from experience that coach companies will run to death a coach and then sell it. It's very common that none of the systems will be ok to drive for any distance. But the new owners take it down the road anyway because of not knowing how to check the coach out.
I’m just wondering is the house bit finished yet have I missed that episode 👍👍
Ive been having an issue with my gillig phantom with a detroit series 50, I get 2.9 volts at ecu fuses. I cut the two power wires going into ecu and got same 2.9 volts coming from ecu... my question is, the starter is 24v is the ecu supposed to be 24 or 12
How many lives have you saved now? As long as this channel's been going, it has to be in the hundreds.
I can see why you have an infinite work supply given the condition of your customers equipment. 🖒🤠
Awesome
After derusting, polish by hand with a mixture of bee's wax and mineral oil...
Changing all the lug nuts also?
I've watched a few of BGM videos and I'm wondering if these busses all have non-independent solid front axle suspensions? Recently a MegaBus was on the news for having crashed ending up on its side. Now being able to see the underside of the bus, the front suspension on the MegaBus appeared to be independent A-arms. The busses in these videos appear to have independent suspension tag axles with a second rear solid axle as the driven axle. Those MegaBuses are exciting to kids. My cousin's kids thought they looked so cool they arranged a trip so they could ride on a MegaBus on one of he legs of it. A doubt there has been that much excitement for choosing the bus since the GM Scenic Cruiser of the 1950s.
lemon acid works realy good to remove rost
Scott your a god scent. I can't believe those air bags held air. Those studs for the wheels; unbelievable he was able to travel down the road to get to your place. Like the song say's: if you can get your rig to the top of the (Bus Grease Monkey) mountain, Scott will bring it back to life. The shop entrance looks great. You seem to let the owners of the bus(s) drive their rigs into the shop (I would never in a million years let that happen, but that's me, I'm very anal that way) may I suggest using tennis balls on a string, spaced just so as they pull into the shop the tennis balls will hit the corners of the bus as they enter, and maybe one located when the bus is in the shop where you want them to stop. Just a thought. If you should go with the tennis balls, a trick to use is, after you get the STRING through the tennis ball, tie to a tooth pick, to keep the string from pulling through the ball. Stay safe, and god bless you and your family. Woof woof to Leroy. PS., I used very thin welding rod to get the string through the ball, just used tape at the one end, to secure the string to the rod. I'd used a 1/8" drill bit.
Where are you located.
Scott I wonder how many buses are on the road that have that some issue with the wheels, thousands….
To those saying this is an example of why there should be mandatory DOT inspections, I say it is a perfect example why such inspections should not be mandatory. If a shop can miss these issues, how is a DOT inspector going to do better? A shop is much better equipped than a DOT inspector. No, what needs to happen is these shops need to be held accountable.
Oh boy overhaul isn't the word Scott. You're gonna get this bus squared away and back on the road
I wonder if a canvas sleeve made to fit over the air bags would help the life span. They are certainly exposed to the worst conditions.
Those wheel studs were scary. Another case of a tire shop with a REALLY BIG impact gun and no torque wrench somewhere.
Besides the lug nuts, the bus wasn’t too bad. The air bellows were past their service life, but not too bad. Over torquing the lug nuts on these stud pilot wheels really does them in.
Where are you guys from. My neighbor. Has charter bus but he also has. A mci 102a3 that he would sell it needs a motor thow. You can look up and ask about it at. Universal stage coach in talladega alabama
Ballpark figure on the parts replaced in this project? Just curious.
2500 ish
As you're all probably aware, ALL Trucks and Lorries & busses, no matter weather they are used for business or pleasure, by law must pass an annual MOT inspection by the DVSA here in the UK, and most are subject to 6 week safety checks. That bus in the video would have failed so badly on many many issues, it would have been instantly impounded by the DVSA. They are ruthless and the level of standard for a pass is very high, (dripping oil is frowned upon) and you as an operator are scored on your level of 1st time passes for your other vehicles. If you fall to an amber or red (from a green) you are much more likely to be pulled over for road side inspection to the MOT level of standard.
Wondering what's going on, on BGM.... thing have gotten quiet. Hope you're doing well!
Which fleet did that come off, and is their local equivalent to "Officer Hoover" know about it yet?
Hi! How can we prevent Rubber of the airbag to dry lire this?
You can't really, just like tyres they have a finite lifespan due to rubber perishing/dry rotting. Certain things like making sure the air dryer system is in tip top shape helps but ultimately you just have to accept they have to be replaced at some point, they're a wear and tear item. Buying high quality replacements is the best solution. Also air bags aren't massively expensive all things considered - they're very mass made, standardised heavy vehicle parts. It's just having the skills/facilities to replace them.
Maybe I’m an ass for saying this, but does anyone know how to perform a pre-trip inspection before taking their busses on the road?
Watching your recent videos, it feels like there is a common theme. Do you have any advice for someone who wants to get into a bus/conversion/skoolie with regards to how much they should set aside for these types of repairs? If a person spent $N amount of money, is there a good estimate how much they should expect to need for repairs such as these to make them safe and reliable. Also, any opinions on early 2000’s rear engine school buses with the 8.3l Cummins? Seems like a lot of what you do are two-stroke Detroits. Really enjoy your videos. Appreciate the insight.
Spending a couple of hours inspecting it wheel by wheel. Making sure it would pass a commercial dot inspection. Plan on replacing all rubber. Purchase price is always the cheapest part of owning a bus
A pre-purchase inspection by a 'competent' bus mechanic would probably save thousands (and possibly your life). It can tell you which to avoid, and/or provide a negotiating tool if not too far gone. Next bus I buy, the first place I'll go is the roof and then underneath for a stem to stern scrutiny.
@@BusGreaseMonkey I know right? Tires, airbags, brakes, registration, tax, title...I would save a bundle if I can find a place to do the work myself. Maybe one day.
They way I read the title I thought all MCI buses has some serious safety issues. Which I can believe lol
🎵 The wheels on the bus stay on by luck! On by luck! Just by luck!
Why did those tools have that rust on them? Is that normal from just the humidity in the air there? Jow often do you have to treat them?
They were gifts from texas that sat in a toolbox and the humidity did that while they set for years unut
Where can I get "Fertan" de-ruster???
Why do I suspect you are not done finding the issues on this one yet?
why do the wheel studs have threads on both ends ?
Because they are held on by a nut on the back side
Wow that's amazing those airbags held air, looked way worse than the ones I changed out of my bus last month, I realize the outer rubber is to protect the belting and the inner surface holds the air but still those looked way to close to being weak enough to rupture o_o
Looks like an ex NJT (?) Commuter bus with the commuter door and wheelchair lift door....Definitely not "fleet maintained"....
Ah!! So YOU fix the Banana Splits 6×6s....Nice job!!@!!
Shop is amazing. Rust remover amazing. That bus is amazingly neglected and what’s up with those drive tires heavy lug tread must ride terribly. Getem straightened out buddy.
Snow tires ;)
Bud Knutz Cornfuse so many Tire swappers.
No a torque wrench would confuse them
D3 with transit doors ! Series 60 ?
Yes
where ya go ?
do you sell T-shirts ? I love the smell of diesel in the morning
Whoa a lot of these buses barely made to your shop. The bus will be so much safer when your done.
I worked for a company that had these buses in their fleet . I wasn't impressed , constantly breaking down !
That has to be the record up the hill
With a towed behind
I have one of these, and am missing two lug nuts from the drive axles (one on each side). Does anyone have a link to where I can get the lug nuts?
Budd nut one left and one right hand thread. Any truck tire shop will have them for you
@@BusGreaseMonkey it seems as if all threads are regular clockwise to tighten. I don't know if the previous owner (transit company) made that modification, but I can't figure out the thread pitch. I bought m22x1.5 but that doesn't work because the thread is too fine.
Never fails to amaze me how poorly maintained some vehicles are, I am paranoid as hell about brakes, tyre conditions and lights and check them a lot.
How often do these busses have to pass any sort of test?
In most stares never. Once the title is changed to RV it gets exempted from any regulation requirements including dot pre trip, annual, or any other inspection requirements. It also in most states never requires and special drivers licenses or training to operate that the vehicle with just a title change to rv. Once a bus identifies as an rv it’s got a free pass to the basically the same operating restrictions and requirements as a moped.
Scott, is that rust remover solution legit? It almost seems too good to be to true. Anyway, great channel and content.
The walkers family of the KZhead channel (catching up with the Walkers) the have adopted two orphan children from the Cherokee nation! That’s a lot of children I’m sure they’d like some words of encouragement 😁
could you please tell me the name of the song? thanks
Bus Grease Mountain-Tom Feller and the Farm Hands.
@@digitalrailroader thank you
Isn’t chelation great?
Magic
Wow~It's like that Poor Baby had a Curse Cast Upon It! Could've been Disastrous out on the Road!
your drive way is a diagnostic tool ,can you right it off ?
Nearly everything here is for our business.
I wonder how many buses are on the road that have the same issue I bet thousands…..
Is bus grease monkey still in business? Haven’t seen a new video put up in almost a month . Sure do miss the videos .
That rust remover isn’t ferten around!!!
Cool a d model ahaha
If it wasn’t for the bus being all-painted and no stainless steel ribbing, I swear that would be an ex-N.J. Transit bus.
It that's actually the source, makes you wonder about their fleet buses too?
@@stephenhunter70 As I’ve said on another video, you don’t know what you’re getting into when you buy an ex-N.J. Transit bus.
@@josephheston9238 I could say that (from experience) about most second hand vehicles, it's why you should get a professional to inspect them!
No vids for 3 weeks...what's up with that?
And please adjust those mirror arms in for him. Looks like a dodge pick up going down the road. Just sayin
That is one unsafe vehicle
I was watching one of those toe shows heavy truck toe in one of the guys was putting on a front steer tire they had that air hammer wrench on that one lug nut all of the Lugnuts for like 10 minutes each I was trying to jump through the screen idiots
You need to speak up it’s hard to hear you
Biden. About some new content.
Did this guy just buy this bus? It looks like it was used on the North Slope to transport oil field workers.... I think if you go into these buses knowing you are going to drop a lot of money and parts, knowing that you now will have to make up for the past sins of the previous owners. I try not to be judgmental as we are only seeing a very narrow slice of the life of these coaches... But someone needs to bitch slap tires places and others who see these obvious defects and do not correct them or refuse to do the work if the owner does not want to take care of the problem...I understand now why State Police stop and inspect trucks, busses and others now..