Troy Deeney QUESTIONS Man City Players Who CLAIMED They Were "TOO TIRED" To Finish Playing Madrid! 😬
2024 ж. 17 Сәу.
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Troy Deeney & Andy Goldstein discuss Man City being knocked out the Champions League and if questions need to be asked about players playing too many games.
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2:59 ‘’I have never played at the highest level’’ NO GOLDSTEIN! You haven’t played at any level! 😂😂
😂😂😂
😂😂 cook
Jumpers for goalposts in the park level.
What’s worse is he said to Troy Deeney, “I have never played at the highest level, you have” - I don’t remember Troy Deeney ever playing in a European game, not to talk of a Champions League quarter final, when you’re in a very tough title race. 😂
@@atowari lol deeney playing in the premier league pretty much supercedes anything you will ever do in your life Atowari. Even a 15th place team has players who are some of the best football players in THE WORLD. Thats what he means by 'the highest level'. Grow up.
How can Haaland ever claim to be "too tired", exactly? The only time he ever breaks a sweat is eating a curry on a team bonding exercise in Delhi!🍛
U r weird‼️🙄
Pure cringe
😂
Thought the same, apparently he'd a muscle injury!
Ofcourse they’ll be tired, marking vinicius is a whole different level from marking luton’s morris.
Kyle walker wasn't tired 😅vini was burnt out 😅
Imagine Roy Keane saying to Ferguson to please take him off cos he's tired. My god.
Im.stunned
No winter breaks, these players need to be playing while I'm boozed up on boxing day
You would for 200k per week lol
@@djbarbergreen3388i'd do ballet for 200k lol
Winter breaks are for weaklings
Man city has two legit squads.. winter break is not a reason.
So when they win, no problem.? But when they lose, no winter break is a problem?.
Madrid looked more tired and beat them
Mental composure
Penalty shootouts are 50/50 don’t be silly
@@libby4608 Yeah and they beat them, like I said,, whats silly about that,, bloody weirdo
@@carlstartupYou're the weirdo.
As for the Premier League, why would Arsenal play on a Sunday and not a Saturday? Bayern played on a Saturday at home. They had an extra day off and Arsenal traveled to Munich. Wake up PL.
Troy keeps it so real.. more of him is needed
One might think that they didn't have the bottle to take a penalty and wanted to go off before they needed to. We will never know.
😂😂😂😂 you will make fans boys upset
You're probably right. Same with that crybaby Rodri who complained about seeing only 1 team play this match. Meanwhile he's an Atletico product and defended with the entire City team like crazy vs Atletico in that 2nd leg. Instead of complaining he should have taken a pen.
De Bruyne gets injured a lot so i can understand him coming off but Haaland 🤷♂️
Haaland, surely could not be tired??
@LA-fr7fx yes he shouldn't have been tired, he did nothing in the game
De Bruyne just had to last 9 more minutes
I said the same thing Id clut KDB some slack becauue its obvious he has not fully recovered from surgery but Haaland does absolutley nothing every single game exactyl what is he tired from?
Staggering two players of this magnitude would bottle take in penalties
De bruyne n haaland saying they are tired but didnt run around nearly as much as camavinga jude n valverde. they played the whole 130min while runnin their hearts out.
Looool how many men work 12 hours a day all week and play footy 3 times a week , quite a lot , so how can these people who work 90 mins a week be tired
becasue they play less games and at a lower intensity, KDB only just back from a long injury haaland is bang average if he was a foot shorter he would be playing sunday league
@cheesybellend6842 not even the same level. Dont think you relise the commitment to be that fit
@@scottking869people think they do a kick about each afternoon then play a game on the weekend. They don’t realise the constant wear and tear of muscles, pressure, mental fatigue etc. Bunch of grown men that never made it to that level can never talk about “how are you tired?”
lol. Running where? Barely To the center of the field? Ofc man city did most of the running, they were the ones attacking. Plus KDB was at the verge of passing out😂
You can trust the English media to make these all about the premier league like this is the first time we've had a non-english semi-final, i don't get it.
They are English media. They will talk about English things obviously
Your one brain cell really chugging there eh
It’s been a fair while since an English side hasn’t featured in the semi finals so of course they’ll talk about it. Do you think Spanish football radio stations are talking about anything other than Spanish sides?
This is the English media 🤦🏻♂️🤡
In Spain, Italy etc they always talk about Prem?
HAALAND asking to come off knowing pens were likely is a disgrace...... The guy never broke a sweat...... Get rid for me.
Once Rodri started his foolishness, I knew the others would follow
If I were his teammates I would be furious seriously respectfully I am glad Haaland is getting exposed he is a fraud
injury
De Bruyne and Haaland asking to come off? Doesn't sound right to me... something is wrong here
Probably LIES and Fake news IMO?
Match was fixed in favour of VARdrid hope you get it now look at the body language before the shootout
@@virtuallimit3619course that’s what happened. You do know Man City are actually the biggest cheats in football ? 115 charges and var always actually goes in their favour we’ve seen it time and time again
You must be one of the board of directors in Manchester city to know that the match was fixed.@@virtuallimit3619
Oh boo hoo cry me a river@@virtuallimit3619
How exactly would a winter break improve fixture congestion? All it would do is cram more fixtures before and after it to squeeze it in...it doesn't reduce any fixtures.
They had a Winter break in January One week half the prem then the other teams the following week.
Remember how crammed the fixtures got in 2022/23 just before and weeks after the World Cup
Here's an idea. Reduce the Premier League to 15 clubs. Play 28 games. Top 6, still compete. The 9 clubs left are fighting relegation...instead of a "safety zone".
@@garywallace5602be serious
Last I checked, if Madrid went all the way to the Cup final, they'd have played the same amount of minutes as the English teams.. Spanish teams play similar number of games. Stop making excuses
As a wolves fan I’ve never been a Troy deeney fan but I’m actually surprised at how well spoken he is. Fair play 👍🏻
You are not alone! I thought he was a Neanderthal.
No Premier League teams in neither Champions nor Europa Leagues. The world is so much better today!
That's cold
When players are tired, they need a passionate crowd to help get them through. That's just not going to happen these days at the Etihad.
Zzzzzzz
115 and counting how can they be tired?
@@GWJUKYep, exactly. No passion
@@PerfectMask1 clueless have you ever been? Off the sofa global glory boy?
@@GWJUK Yep, I've been. Easy to get tickets.
If you want the MASSIVE wages you have to play the games required. If you want games off go part time like normal people. Makes me sick hearing this. I’ve just done a full 12 hours today again non stop
Yes well done.
My first reaction to the Man City players that asked to come off was they didn't want to take a penalty and bottled it before the end of the game, but after thinking about it, how could they foresee the result when there was 10 mins to go in normal time and then extra time, anything could happen. Its more likely that they felt they couldn't give 100% and it needed players on the pitch given the magnitude of the game to have everyone at 100% and wanted to give the team the best chance. Most players moan and whine when they are brought off, unless Pep is your manager that is. However I can see why De Bruyne was tired, but Haaland I am not sure about, the strikers do the least running of all the team, plus he didn't do much when he was called on.
KDB just got back from injury in Jan and he hasn't played even full 90 let alone 110 mins.... And tbf h worked his head off in that game eventualkly getting that goal... Haaland on the other hand basically sat in Mr Rudiger's pocket and then limped off when penalties is something they desperately need him for... POOR
Get Troy on more.
The problem I’m seeing more and more with City is Pep instills such a possession obsession ethos into his side that it eventually makes them very predictable. Grealish and Silva do not provide any width and just constantly cut the ball back inside and recycle possession over and over again. On top of that, Walker, Gvardiol, Akanji, and Ake do the same thing as fullbacks. They constantly cut the ball back instead of putting in any service from out wide. The end result is everything is far too narrow and teams are increasingly just packing the box against City and making it very difficult for both Alvarez and Haaland to get any type of consistent service. Wenger said it best very recently. He said De Bruyne is the only City player aside from Haaland who wants to “progress” the ball while the rest want to “possess” the ball. The problem becomes when the possession is so extreme, bordering on an almost OCD like obsession with never losing the ball, that it actually hinders the attack and makes it far too predictable.
Great point. And that is the opposite of what Pep did last season as he was flexible in his tactical approaches to games sometimes even letting the opposition have more possession and was rewarded with a treble. Yet what does he do this season? Revert back to the same old intractable self from his obsession with the possession to playing a such a high line with players who cannot execute it properly over and over, it is like he has forgotten everything he should have learned from last season. I would also say that the players are too afraid to lose the ball in possession with few exceptions and do so to the team's detriment. Slow buildup cancels out most of Haaland's talents and will always allow teams with a low block plenty of time to reset and have 11 in front of the ball thereby making it nearly impossible to score against. Again, Pep's inflexibility on full display. This doesnt mean we should have a basketball game, but certainly a few quick transitions would be useful and could have helped with the attack
@@MCFCTheMadHatter they played possession vs Madrid Last season
@MCFCTheMadHatter Great points as well. I’m glad someone else can tactically see what’s happening instead of the typical “Haaland is a ghost” rhetoric that’s all the craze now. Likewise, far too many people are obsessed with trolling Haaland that they don’t realize the exact same thing is happening to Alvarez when he plays the forward position. Alvarez gets nothing in the middle of the pitch and is instead forced to go out wide to get touches on the ball. But then he invariably just recycles the ball himself. The biggest problem facing City is teams have overwhelming realized they can’t play an open space, back and forth game with City. Luton were naive enough to try that in the FA Cup, got destroyed 6-2, and Haaland showed what type of player he actually is in a typical game where the game is not just camped out in the opposition’s defensive third all game long. Like you said, Pep needs to intentionally concede more possession and actually force teams up the field. Because teams are taking away two thirds of the pitch nearly every game against City and making the pitch tiny. The contrast is obvious if you watch City and watch virtually every other game. The pitch looks tiny in City games because it’s just played in the opponents third of the pitch the majority of the game by design.
Overplayed in the final third far too often.
@@thayyibmahmood4025 And we had quicker buildup play and actually had a few counter attacks at pace too. THe complete opposite of last night
They ask to be substituted because those boys are not use to playing 120 minutes. They beat everyone in the England in 90, and by the 75th, the game is pretty much over. On the other hand, Real Madrid has the heart of a lion. They refuse to give up
Yes Madrid had it tough on the Saturday before against Mallorca.
Use ur own opinion n not what u heard smh ..tired lol they have days off training 🤣
wish we would get Bayern v Dortmund, old German Klassiker final 🇩🇪
Funnily enough the last Champion League final Wembley in 2013 was betweem Bayern and Dortmund.
That would be nice for you if you're German, because I doubt that your national team, even at home, is going to win the Euros.
If a player is no longer able to give 100% to the team due to fatigue, then it is better to request a substitute.
With a bench like citys , it makes sense to use the bench in games like these with extra time.
Troy is so honest and objective...
It's all well and good comparing the Premier League to the Bundes Liga but the winter break only works in Germany because there is only one domestic cup over there and 4 less league games. So my point being there are less fixtures every season to be fulfilled in the first place which allows there to be a 4 week break mid season. If footballers really are playing too many games now then either get rid of International friendlies or the only other option is you would have to start the season earlier or end it later. Suddenly inserting a 4 week winter break wouldn't address the problem I mean if anything it would make it worse because all of the fixtures played over those 4 weeks would just get moved and then you'd end up with fixture congestion in other parts/months of the season instead of the winter.
tiredness isnt just physical its mental as well but when you see the finish line insight & your in front so to speak that should be enough to see you over line .
Why are players too tired in the prem? They do realise teams in the lower tiers literally play 2 times every week all season ffs. And they don't have the luxury of having huge squads and the best medicine available to them..
Do those guys have any big matches?? Do they play against the top teams?? Sushhhhh
Both looked shattered at the end, so just being honest than make mistakes and cost team.
i think pep meant , tired mentally maybe like " man I'm tired of trying we ain't scoring " not like physically
Pep should have shielded his players like a leader, and let the truth come out when he retires. True leadership. Not Pep-”Dont ruin my manager's legacy”-->🚌
Literally makes no sense.
They're constantly told they 'need a rest'...most of the top players hardly ever complete 90+ minutes. They've had that mindset installed in their heads by their managers.
Goldstein feeling smug at city being knocked out.. meanwhile his beloved club could finish at all time low position 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A nurse doing a 12 hour shift gets “tired”.
they should have stayed on harland , debryne, penalty takers, and Rodri bottled it which i was surprised at
Pep loves sarcasm. Enough said
I think part of peps success isn't just that he is a master tactician. He gets his players to push themselves beyond what would even be reasonable at that level. I think this is why some high profile players have left the club over the years as well because it is a work ethic where you just suffer under that manager. Also pep has been honest with the media because in a way its calling out those players. What would you think of your manager and how would you reflect if you were publicly named as someone too tired to play and wanted to come off?
troy questioning man city players 😂😂😂😂😂 give it a rest
Bet he wouldn't ask 2 come off in the last 8 of the champions league all the same
haha Liverpool players not tired because they never go deep in comps, never win year in year out. City won the treble, went to world cup, and were going for treble again..also there is a myth they have a large team.
How can Troy Deeney of all people even comment on champions league football?😂...mans never seen the bus let alone a game
Don't get why Troy is mentioning Saka with the Man city fatigue. Saka has stated as long as he has two legs he wants to play. Injured and all
Troy for England manager in the future, he has what it takes to lead the country to greatness. Just my opinion!!
Is it hard to just share credit and acknowledge that you were outplayed, I will always love Klopp for being honest
Lol, what? The excuse master and "honest" in the same sentence?
you can’t tell me that harland ran more than valverde. no way he was tired.
What if he had other reason than running that made him tired? Like fitness?
@@NATAR160 Then he's even worse of a player then we already think.
It's easy to know why the were tired. They caught the lazy English bug. If the work was in the bed they sleep on the floor.
I don’t think it’s right, but I do think there’s a lot to be said for the amount of games that they’re now being asked to play, alongside pre-season tours and international tournaments. Players aren’t machines and the human body can only take so much.
City don’t have a right to complain, they have the deepest and best squad in the league. Their second team would start ahead of most PL teams outside the top 5.
Thry miss the playerd that left at the end of last season
Rodri did say last season that he’s tired
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Rodri said last week he was tired !! If the players are tired surely you just keep it "in house" you dont want anyone outside the camp to know what is going on. Surely if a player looks jaded the manager should know, I would just leave them out ,if its a week with no midweek game they get10 days 2 weeks off .
De brawna face was literally like a tomato 🍅😂😂😂😂😂
The PL already has a winter break.
Would they moaned of being tired if they had won
Yeah, probably.
I think the miners starting at 4am shift with hard labour all day would be tired, or SAS training, but professional footballers at peak fitness. seriously. Might also benefit having some training sessions with rugby players instead of rolling around after being tapped on the leg.
How can these top players complain about being tired. Half the game they are at walking pace. Put them up against a top class cyclist who rides in the Tour De France and they wouldn't live with them. Also a top tennis player who has to play five sets. A top class athlete running a marathon at less than five minute pace. These players should thank their lucky stars that they train a couple of hours a day , if that, and play ninety minutes, or they are on the field for that length of time. Time to stop pampering them
Get rid of international friendly if you only win the premier league poor season disrespectful
I have to question the Premier League with the new rule. The Premier League matches now frequently have 50 or 55 minutes half's now which Serie A do not have. Look at the injuries the big sides that are also playing in Europe had. Over a match or two it won't be too bad but when you're facing opposition sides that play matches with a 47 minute half like the Premier League had last season then over time it surely must make a difference
Troy deeney cannot talk about decision making of managers. Bottled it at forest green. Should stick to just causing headlines for talksport
Other countries have one cup tournament. England has 2 maybe completely remove the EFL cup or keep it fr teams who don't make the CL
who said that?
Well, City won the treble last season which means they played the maximum number of games in a season. And towards the end of the season the games were more intense with much more at stake than a regular league game. There's the travelling, the media availability, the club PR events, which now includes going to far away lands and playing exhibition games. For City, it was just a few short weeks before they were back at training camp getting ready for pre-season. And of course they have to workout a good deal of the time. The more you succeed, the more you have to work to keep succeeding. Tired? Exhausted? I can understand it.
Pep obviously is lying about that no player can want to be subbed off in that magnitude of the game and it was 8 minutes left before end of the game.
Not a City fan but they played the 1st leg on 9th April. Madrid hadn’t played since 31st March. That time must help Madrid.
Madrid looked more tired than city
Questioning Troy deeney regarding tiredness and players playing 3 games in a week… when has he ever done that? Come on Andy at least ask somebody who has done it before
De Bruyne has always had stamina issues, some can go on forever. Not a good message to the boss though to ask to come off. City were unlucky during the game they just totally messed up the the pens.
Nothing is wrong with being tired
Nothing wrong with it but adrenaline should override tiredness in this sort of game
Unnecessary international breaks only to go and play friendly games. Why not give them time to rest?
Roy Keane has destroyed both Haalands 😂
🙈🤣
International break only to go play friendlies doesn't make sense
Imagine being paid for your football expertise and believing anything that Pep says to journalists.....
Spot on..💯
If they didnt ask to come off and Pep claims they did, he may have a problem. I can't see Haaland being tired. KD maybe because he's coming off an injury, however wasn't he recently substituted and he was pissed off. I can't see him asking to come off, but maybe. I just don't see it in Haaland. If that's case, that's wrongly putting it on those players andI wouldn't be please if he did that to me.
You'd never see Ronaldo asking to be subbed out in a clutch must win game.... nor benzema nor Ramos neither Marcelo neither pepe nor casimero not even bale.. not dani hes always up for a battle.younger luka would play 120 mins nonstop. never vini.. rodyrgo would always be mad if he was subbed... cama would never ask to be subbed nor Fede.... different mentality I guess
Deeney thats not a good point
Why is it so hard to phathom that human beings getting tired..amazing
The amount of games City played is always more than everybody in the league
There is a reason you have a squad not only for injuries, but for rotation. Adding on that, these players are getting paid millions to play soccer, so play soccer.
I’ve never understood why we have 2 domestic cup competitions in this country? What’s the point? Everybody else has 1 and that makes sense. Plus, even when you win the League Cup everybody just turns round and says, it’s a worthless trophy anyway.. So what’s the point in it?! Common sense would be to have the Premier League and FA Cup. The next logical step would be to reduce the number of teams in the Premier League to 18. That way, the league is more competitive, there’s fewer games and you can take a Winter Break. Plus getting rid of replays, you’re losing a good amount of games which means players aren’t getting burnt out by the end of the season and there will be no excuses for England in major tournaments. Could even use the “League Cup” as a trophy for clubs in the Championship, League One and League Two. Or turn it into a British Cup and allow the likes of Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish teams into it.
How would deeny know? He never played anything apart from the Premier league
Deeney have never played CL or WC how have he played on the highest level?
If they have a winter break. ? What are they going to do. ? Rest ? Not a chance. They will go on an around the world tour. Make more dough for the sponsors
very insightful mate, it'll be monopolised and monetised for sure
Big Rob with the chicken fajitas!!!
De Bruyne I can understand asking to come off but no excuse for Haaland. He was a passenger for most of the game.
Rodrid literaly said a couple games ago he was tired. Not really a get out
Bruno Fernandes play 120 mins against Liverpool in FA Cup, last 30 mins played with 1 leg hanging off, and he also played in CB like that. bless these primadonnas, their hair got abit too messy with all that running
Bringing a nobody like Fernandes in conversation like we won't notice lol
@@virtuallimit3619he's currently the best Portuguese player
Bro I’m a Manchester United fan gtfo with that talk.
worse example. Bruno never tracks back too help defenders.
because Bruno is grifting. If the guy was a baseball player he’d have .100 batting average
Troy needs to be a permanent host with benty and goldstein. Can also put fat gabby in his place the drip😂😂
Both of them have been injured for some time maybe it's a knock on effect from that
Winter Break NEEDED
Always astonishes me that an armchair critic can doubt that playing any sport at the top level can be Tiring Try training everyday and playing three matches a week at the top top level Of course you’re gonna be tired whether it’s your job or not These players also have the same lives outside of football Regardless of money you can still have stresses and strains Kids Wives Family etc Other business interests Even machines get knackered
Troy Deeney is such an upgrade over Gabby.
Players arent helped by fifa and uefa making more and more international fixtures or club competitions. The FA have taken a step in the right direction by doing away with cup replays as of next season. But why the English and scottish Fa dont move fixtures to aid their clubs in the latter stages of european competition is a mystery.
People that have never competed in sports don't understand that even athletes too get tired, running around for 90+ mins breaks the body down, regardless of what science they have etc the body and the mind needs resting.
When Pep did that KDB substitution against Chelsea him KDB was done
Foreign team gets knocked out: farmers league English team gets knocked out: tired
lol so true
Raz turns up and Chelsea may have a chance. Otherwise Cole Palmer alone cannot wiggle himself to a goal against City
They didn't looked tired they had the ball more pressed more and looked the better team on the night.
The European competitions are the real issue. Too much travelling an two many games. Reduce the games by going back to knockout format and require the players to take a pay cut accordingly. Not tired anymore then?
Why would players do that because MAN CITY PLAYERS were tired 😂😂😂 no one else but City fans and players are complaining so why does everyone else have to change their format for City. Get real
Man city run alot especially kdb and benardo. I dont understand people saying that how can they be tired. Its bonkers
Ammmmm didn't Arsenal have a well publicized winter break with the family and all kinda stuff in the middle east that all the pundits were talking about their revival in the title race?