Simon Jordan DOUBTS Any BIG Premier League Club Would Take Tuchel Due To His Divisive Nature! 😳🔥
2024 ж. 30 Сәу.
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What next for Thomas Tuchel? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Danny Murphy have their say!
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This is how you know that their comments about Tuchel lacks any form of objectivity..... "He didn't do well at PSG" The truth:Won all trophies in France, went to back to back semis in the CL, first manager to ever reach a semis with PSG, first manager to ever reach a final. "He is onky in the semis of the CL with Bayern" The Truth: he is the first manger in the last 4 years to bring Bayern to a CL semis I an not even a Tuchel fan but talkSPORT too often lacks any objective discussion....
It’s Talk trash for a reason. Only people I listen to is ally McCoist he speaks sense
these guys are clowns man, These guys are clowns, Notice they managers they hate are also the ones who seem to win trophies! The ones they love, have won nothing😂😂😂 They love the Dezerbis and Sean Dyche, bcoz thats as far their brain allows them to
It is a truly ridiculous assertion to say he didn't do well with Paris Saint-Germain ... He won EVERYTHING with the club domestically, and failed to beat one of the biggest European clubs on the planet in the final in 2020 ... Sometimes I wonder if even the well spoken Simon Jordan does enough research on a subject before he opens his mouth ... remember not all of your football audience only watches one league
Tuchel could be on his way to winning 2 CLs and losing 1 CL final in 5 years. That's pretty damn good for any manager. Why the hell would no one want him but Arne Slot, Ten Hag, Rueben Anorim, and others should be jumping off the page? I would take Tuchel in a heartbeat at United with a commitment to clearing the squad out.
Totally agree. Would love Liverpool to sign him.
He can't win a league to save his life. He's a cup manager like Emery
Because I have heard stores of his behaviour behind the scenes is horrendous and falls out with everyone at the club
Which simon is saying but won’t speak out load
Facts
Tuchel is no way as bad as Simon is making out
@tomhunter4991 TT has been fired four times for being difficult... It's a fair observation. He also pumped Chelsea player's girlfriend...
Simon knows nothing about
These guys are clowns, Notice they managers they hate are also the ones who seem to win trophies! The ones they love, have women nothing😂😂😂
He knows something about Tuchel but doesn't say what it is. There is an obviously some sort of issue with him. He has been told he is out at Bayern but could still win the CL. That says something. Then again Simon should stop dining out on what he has heard ie Gossip and say this is the score.
4 times sacked … 4 times in a row . Each time issues with his board or owner . 4 times cashing in . Says enough .
Guys won the Champions league ,Club World Cup UEFA Super cup , French league German league ..pretty sure he could get a job in the Premier league again
Didn’t win the German league
He hates players managers and other people in sport who are successful!!! He’s very bitter or he’s a clown just to get attention and views
@@Olli967 yes he did last season
Simon basing his judgement purely based on tuchel match of the day interviews. Plonker
That and the fact he’s been run out of every big job he ever had for being impossible to deal with.
I'm a Bayern and Chelsea fan (one through choice, the other blood. Don't kill me), and having seen him manage twice now he is clearly not an easy person to deal with for club higher-ups and players that need an ego check. We joke about the Tucheliban but I find his style of football to be effective and enjoyable to watch, and I was genuinely disappointed when they announced he'd be leaving (even if it was obviously going to happen). But if he rubs the owners and certain key players the wrong way, even if he's right to act that way, no club is going to keep him around. Which is a shame, because he's finally hit his stride with Bayern and it seems like the players are back on side too. Which is a very long way of saying Simon's not really wrong in the reasoning but certainly in the conclusion.
The rumour is that Boehly disclosed to Simon that Tuchel likes the “white stuff”. This is what Jim was hinting at one point today.
Perhaps watch it again as your comment is ridiculous. Plonker.
Where did you hear this @marais-cu3vo
So Simon is basically saying... Be a YES MAN... and never question the AUTHORITY... FOOK Simon
Exactly, chelsea owners are example of that, he didn’t agree with them getting rid of all the experienced players and buying random players and they sacked, they’re mid table team now.
Some very simple minds on here. He didn't say that did he? He said that's how owners will see it. Didn't say to actually do that.
@@saimo2498these guys are clowns man, These guys are clowns, Notice they managers they hate are also the ones who seem to win trophies! The ones they love, have won nothing😂😂😂 They love the Dezerbis and Sean Dyche, bcoz thats as far their brain allows them to
@@saimo2498 the downfall at Chelsea started with Tuechel. In fact , after they won the CL , the next season was poor . A totally disoriented team with poor tactics . Tuechel had no idea how to manage them .
@@wengelder9256 he finished 3rd, Liverpool and man city were ahead of him, he was top of the league till chilwell, james and kante got injured snd the sanctions happened, its wasn’t easy sweetheart
People forget Tuchel was in CL final with P$G as well
Yeap. The media is so slack omitting basic football knowledge.
Almost went out to Atalanta, beat Leipzig and lost to Bayern in the final. Not much of an achievement.
Todd Boehly mate is obsessed with Tuchel wtf😅 I don’t see why United wouldn’t consider him at some point should they look to move in from ETH
Bayern Munich's problem is that Uli Hoeness, who has made the club great over the past decades, simply cannot let go. Without an official function, he pulls the strings in the background as honorary president and publicly dismantles anyone who doesn't dance to his tune. Any coach with a difficult character like Tuchel will fail because of his own ego and the ego of Uli Hoeness.
exactly this
PSG and Bayern fired Ancelotti. PSG also fired Emery and Poch. Bayern fired Nagelsman mid-season when he was doing a good job. These are difficult clubs to work for because the owners make strange decisions. Chelsea's owners are clueless. Chelsea dismantled a UCL winning team and that was incredibly stupid. They spent £1 billion making the team worse. Tuchel knows what is needed to be successful. He should be respected.
100%. What Simon is putting or claiming about Tuchel makes zero sense and meaningless if he doesn’t give at least some details.
these guys are clowns man, These guys are clowns, Notice they managers they hate are also the ones who seem to win trophies! The ones they love, have won nothing😂😂😂 They love the Dezerbis and Sean Dyche, bcoz thats as far their brain allows them to
Simon needs to say what Tuchel did rather than insinuating. We need facts not gossip
These guys are clowns, Notice they managers they hate are also the ones who seem to win trophies! The ones they love, have women nothing😂😂😂
Chelsea’s mistake letting him go
Chelsea were already free falling at the tail end of Tuchel’s tenure but things definitely wouldn’t be as bad if the new owners had just kept him.
@@blackkid128sorry mate im a chelsea fan, bad seasons happen! It was a time to rebuild and this manager had just won us 3 trophies and taken us to 6 finals with 18months! He shouldve been given time! Now we are pub team, this is what happens when u listen to guys like Simon, u hire Graham Potter and Lampard to replace Tuchel😂😂
Scoring a penalty doesn't mean you had a good game 😂
Say that to Ronaldo
@@fromahappy5536 never met him
Divisive nature? I beg to differ!!
5:39 "jettisoned" that's a new one from Simon 😅
What is it that SJ knows privately about Tuchel?
Who cares. If he's unwilling to say it then he should never being it up. Absolutely bullshyt to make a claim that someone has bad character and refuse to elaborate.
I'd take Thomas tuchs at United in a heartbeat
We’re take him West Ham all day over moyes
It would be a bonus if he upset Sullivan, as well 😀
Being fired by Todd Boehly and the owners of PSG is hardly high criticism as they are 2 of the worst ownerships in all of football. The "gossip" about him being problematic is only relevant depending on where it has come from.
Simon will never never criticize club owners but always against coaches that Speak out.
He wants slave managers like ones he had at palace and led to his demise! Bup team mentality and won nothing😂😂
Howe at Newcastle is so good at managing upwards. You get the impression the hierarchy are very comfortable with him.
Simon keeps saying about if you knew what we knew about tuchel you’d have sacked him as well. Do what you’re always going on about and have the balls to say it or shut up about it.
Simon holding onto billionaires secrets? I would have never guessed.
Kane never plays a bad game!?!? What the heck hahaha watch his champions league games at spurs two years ago.
Watch every 1/4 final, semi final,or any game with any jeopardy any he's awol
Would love to know what Simon has heard in Qatar regarding Thomas Tuchel
Tuchel if he was to return to the Prem next season would be the second best manager in the league...he gets overly criticised for his personality and demeanor but there is no doubt in his quality as a manager .
these guys are clowns man, These guys are clowns, Notice they managers they hate are also the ones who seem to win trophies! The ones they love, have won nothing😂😂😂 They love the Dezerbis and Sean Dyche, bcoz thats as far their brain allows them to
Conte’s behaviour at the end of his Tottenham reign was unreal 👍🏻👏🏻
Freak.
Well he still qualified spurs for UCL in his first season and was sacked while spurs were 4th. Spurs hired Postecoglou and have a better squad but can't get 4th
As a bayern fan he’s a good 1 off game tactician but he’s so toxic
To be fair not one of us know what really happened at Chelsea but Simon does and he seems to have gone off him because of it. Plus now he’s fallen out with certain players and the hierarchy at Bayern as well. Like Simon said, if everywhere you go you keep falling out with people then it’s probably something you’re doing.
No we know what happened, It was clear! And then we hired pub team slave managers like simon wanted like Graham Potter and now we are pub team shambles! these guys are clowns man, These guys are clowns, Notice they managers they hate are also the ones who seem to win trophies! The ones they love, have won nothing😂😂😂 They love the Dezerbis and Sean Dyche, bcoz thats as far their brain allows them to
Tuchel reached the UCL final with PSG also 1 year before he joined Chelsea, which is a great achievement also. Tuchel is a UCL knockout cup manager. He is not perfect but he is a top 10 manager.
Tuchel is a good manager but am glad Jordan has recognised he over praised him at the time. Tuchel was poor in the league at Chelsea. He was lucky to get Chelsea into the Champions league in his first season, only due to the fact Leicester lost their last game of the season when Chelsea lost theirs'. I put Tuchel in a similar bracket to Rafa Benitez, capable of brilliance but ultimately a bit arrogant and overrated.
Chelsea were ninth when he took over then finished fourth whilst winning the UCL👍oh and then third…maybe do ya research first …
Wow , i take it back , he isn't just a good manager.Finishing 4th and 3rd in prem makes him truly élite.
NEVER done it a BIG game when it REALLY counts. Known as a penalty scorer but missed one against France when it really counted.
This Danny Murphy fella kills me. Kim made 2 mistakes in 90 minutes. You can’t judge the whole performance on two split second mistakes against flipping Vini Jr
He has made mistakes all season. Hence why he is now behind Dier
You get punished for these mistakes against world class forwards in the champions league
You can.
Totally agree. Man united fan. From Manchester. 50 years old.
Yh because most teams nowadays are just happy sell a process to their fans and try to play like Pep, not win trophies and compete. There are only 3 clubs interested in winning and he’s at one of them.
Man !! No one says it better than Simon … not easy to find someone to give you a better opinion anywhere , outstanding !!! Tuchel is a sivider, true!!!
Winning isn't divisive. The man wins. Winning = business in football.
Tuchel is a genius manager, he proved it to me on his away game with Chelsea against Madrid 2 years ago, after losing 1-3 at home
He can be the perfect England team manager - he will make them click in big games and get Foden , Bellingham , Kane play together
Not a bad shout…
They dismiss top managers but make out people like Lampard & Gerrard are good managers clueless
Danny the expert; Arsenal plays man City in the Champions League Final.
What is it Jordan’s knows about tuchel that he won’t say ?
Curious to know - I heard possibly drug use.
Your are pushing this narrative of Tuchel being devisive, protecting Chelsea and PSG owners, which is understandable given the fact that Simon is an ex-owner. What you have to remember is you never heard Tuchel side of the story, you just decided that Tuchel is difficult to work with and that is baseless, just like saying Tuchel is a Cup manager when he won the league in France, and challenged Pep and Klopp and got 3rd twice
lol ole and Jose got United 2nd twice doesn’t mean they was good
How did he not do well at psg ? He won everything domestically? And took PSG to the finals? Look at the great Pep, he never won the ucl at bayern and has only won the UCl once since joining Man City.
yes simon like moyes saying winning is what i do.and saying West Ham be careful what you wish for.Tuchel is a top manager who wins trophys,
boehly likely sacked tuchel because he didnt like him
If you listen to Carra he'd have him at Liverpool
I see Tuchel as a good replacement for Southgate if he leaves after the Euros. He's a good manager for cup competitions and a good tactician. Exactly what England needs to go over the line.
I would take tuchel back at chelsea, For england i disagree, im actually african born, but i think national teams should be coached by citizens of that nation! It has never worked to have foreigners who barely even meet the players bcoz of busy club schedule
I love how when Simon talks about Tuchel, he never takes into consideration he was managing Chelsea through an ownership change that was on the back of an incredibly strange period with the war. Every press conference was about the war and its impact on Chelsea. Not only this but he then went through a divorce. Like, cut him some slack. He deserved at least one more season at Chelsea, the owners just wanted to make a power play.
these guys are clowns man, These guys are clowns, Notice they managers they hate are also the ones who seem to win trophies! The ones they love, have won nothing😂😂😂 They love the Dezerbis and Sean Dyche, bcoz thats as far their brain allows them to
He did well at PSG he got to the champions league final these guys talk from both sides of their mouths
these guys are clowns man, These guys are clowns, Notice they managers they hate are also the ones who seem to win trophies! The ones they love, have won nothing😂😂😂 They love the Dezerbis and Sean Dyche, bcoz thats as far their brain allows them to
Lot of teams looking for a top manager!? TT is a top manager no brainer!
finally someone noticed the flaw. He loves controversy with players
Sometimes I think Tuchel is a good manager and sometimes I think he isn’t - can never make up my mind with him.
Tuchel should've been sacked the moment he benched Lukaku. 😡
5:07 it was never that
So if PSG and Chelsea get rid of a manager your first assumption is that the manager can't manage up? HE won the German Cup at Dortmund and In 2 seasons at PSG, he won the league twice including the quadruple in the 2nd season and he got them to a final in the Champions league. He won the Champions league, Super Cup and club World Cup at Chelsea and the League Title at Bayern but Simon doesn't like his attitude. The problem is that Todd Boehly is not exactly an elite sports director and Simon was hardly in a position to win anything major as an owner so he thinks managers shouldn't voice their opinion and owners are always right because they hold the purse strings
Tuchel to me is like the old school managers from the 90s , very hands on and no nonsense to both players and dumb owners.
Simon doesn’t like Tuchel based on a story Todd Boehly told him. That's the reality. The problem was always Todd and his group of friends who thought they knew everything about football and were arrogant enough to sack a world class manager and bring in absolute wasters to run our club. And look how that has turned out?
I’ve just done a whoopsie on the carpet 😳
I think he’s exactly someone that Man Utd needs
Yeah he’ll fit right in with the glazers won’t he toxic players and a toxic manager how great would that be and he’ll on,y be there 2 seasons so wouldn’t help in any way
What’s this nonsense about defensive style? Tuchel is a tactical genius sets up his team depending on who his playing. Bayern balled out last night if anything Madrid played a low block and tried catching Bayern on the counter
Mourinho WAS a serial winner. Yes. But also, only short term in every club. He would set them “on fire” and leave them in ashes
Simon is crazy
Football management is a merry go round always has been. There are exceptions but geberally managers stay at a club for 3/6 years and move on. That’s always been the case
What divisive nature ? The guy was working with Cech and Maria in peace untill cowboys hit the town. Tuchel is perfect coach for United
Do you mean he doesn’t take the various owners’ 🐂💩? Boehly sacking Tuchel was bizarre and at a time the owners didn’t have a bloody clue what they were doing…Surely with a brain cell they could have just let him finish that season and see what happened? 🫣
Jordan’s still thinks he’s got something personal on Tuchel he’s not saying and that is clouding his judgement. He doesn’t think Man Utd would take him 55555
Could see Tuchel in Italy.
Simon Jordon is clueless
I'd swap Big Ange for Tuchel. More tactically astute.
If he wins trophys prem will be looking
He has no chance
Better chance than any English Manager could ever @@jkjk6671
So youre telling me if Aston Villa make UCL for example and Tuchel wins this year's UCL for example.. They wouldn't want him ? Chill, at the end of the day football id a budiness these owners want trophies and make money. He can be that manager that goes to clubs stays for a year or two. But dont downplay his value just cos youre wagging your tail for Boehly.
Look at the situations Tuchel has found himself in. All had major issues going on that had nothing to do with him. Chelsea, Boehly and the ownership change. PSG, a total basket case. Bayern, already in serious decline. I think be deserves more credit for the success he had in these placed than be deserves criticism for how they've ended. And mind you, his Bayern time still has the chance to end in a Champions League trophy.
Didn't Tuchel take PSG to the UCL final?
He must be doing smth right if its his 3rd semifinal in last 4 years with 3 different sides.
Tommy-T is a top, top coach!
Simon: “he didn’t do well at PSG” Lool Tuchel won everything domestically in France and got PSG to the UCL Final 🤷🏾♂️
Ipswich are not "over the line"
WHEN WILL SIMON EVER TELL US WHAT HE KNOWS ABOUT TT
Danny 'the reality is' Murphy
Conte was right in every thing he said and I'm a spurs supporter he is a winner and the Harry Kane Show was not doing it for him.
Simon hates Thomas Tuchel almost as much as anything to do with Newcastle Utd.
Godness me, he left chelsea and he was right because that club is mess right now, managers arent robots they have opinions and if they aren’t satisfied they should speak up, gave psg their first final ever and dortmund aren’t elite club that he can win everything, idk what this simon guy know about tuchel
I'd take Tuchel in a heartbeat.
Tuchel is one of the best tacticians in europe. He took over lampards chelsea and won the ucl taking out real madrid and man city. Any top club would die for tuchel... With regard to kane never having a bad game... Missed a penalty in wc quaterfinal against france. Was ghosted against croatia wc semifinal. Did nothing against italy euro final. Ucl final against liverpool , did nothing
Chelsea would have him back tomorrow
They will get Summerville and Geertuida
Simon keeps alluding to some.dirty secret about tuchelm.... Just spill rlthe beans already ....
United is preparing his offer while they laugh at this in background
They aren’t they wouldn’t get a manager who will only be there a season or 2 would ne pointless and. It the right manager for the toxic players
Wouldn’t mind Tuchel for England 🏴 although it will probably be Potter ☹️
Yeah I'm with Danny, I hope Kane does, he does deserve it
We'll take anybody rather than Southgate
So when Chelsea was sanctioned, he held the fort. Took PSG to a final. After tuchel left psg let go of their sporting director who was subpar. Sure, he "divides", these guys will heap praises on klopp despite horrible behavior....
these guys are clowns man, These guys are clowns, Notice they managers they hate are also the ones who seem to win trophies! The ones they love, have won nothing😂😂😂 They love the Dezerbis and Sean Dyche, bcoz thats as far their brain allows them to
Ok so Simon heard from Bohley why he sacked Tuchel. So that is now gospel? Maybe hear from both sides before putting out into the world how bad a person to work with Tuchel is. And let’s remember, Jordan got his side relegated and bankrupted them. He was only ever chairman in the Prem for a year. So he’s got about as much experience as the Luton Town chairman!
He keeps bringing up what he heard happened, but never says what
Tuchel is a big game manger
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Preposterous!
Kane never plays a bad game what BS, he never turned up for spurs in semi finals - finals - and the big one the CL Final.
Plus for England semis wc , final euros and wc 2022 - he is a small team bully - rather play foden , watkins , saka
Tuchel is a quality manager and will be in demand. Probably Man U next he’s far too good for West Ham and the likes
Not Utd they won’t be stupid enough to out a manager in charge who could only be there for a seasons or 2 again it’s pointless
Hence why he failed at palace