It's worth mentioning also that the Clint Malarchuk incident in 1989, popularized the wearing of neck protection which was mostly inexistent at the time.
@MightyPumaman2 жыл бұрын
That was a wicked injury. I remember seeing that and saying "Wait, that's possible?" It just didn't seem real.
@augustussohn8932 жыл бұрын
@@augustussohn893 Yeah they cut to commercial real quick. They didn't want to show a man die on TV. Paramedics must have done a really good job for him to survive. edit: apparently his trainer served it Vietnam and knew to pinch the artery.
@boltinabottle63072 жыл бұрын
Bro I remember that blade
@bloodylizard31582 жыл бұрын
My guy has PTSD when he sees a skate now
@CB14.2 жыл бұрын
@@augustussohn893 oh mini b
@karlosda59 Жыл бұрын
Original goalie equipment: used to protect the player wearing it. Modern goalie equipment: used to stop the puck.
@the6ig6adwolf2 жыл бұрын
Having played since the 60's, I can say that equipment of that era did a lousy job of protecting the goalie! Today's gear is leap years ahead. My current pads and gloves are actually smaller than the gear I wore twenty years ago.
@tedlane98772 жыл бұрын
@@tedlane9877 never said the old equipment was good, stated why it was originally worn.
@the6ig6adwolf2 жыл бұрын
@@tedlane9877 you’re still tending the net after all these years? Good for you guy 👍😃
@mondoseguendo61132 жыл бұрын
These days it also protects the player wearing it. But if it can both improve your ability to play your role on the ice, while keeping you safe why not?
@greathoonta3461 Жыл бұрын
I started playing goalie in the 80s. I stopped playing goalie in 2008 because my knees couldn't take it anymore. The evolution of the equipment has been amazing and I can't believe how light the gear is now. I was the first goalie at my high school to wear a modern day type mask. I got a hard time about wearing one. But I think my senior year GAA still stands today (~1.15). Probably because I felt invincible behind it. :)
@shrekvt2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to play butterfly.thdre are still some companies making traditional goalie leg pads like brown Miller and kenesky. Brown will make you an old school pad in 3 weeks. I have 13.25 inch wide pads from brown hockey
@mikejones3rfs2 жыл бұрын
I had a couple of good goalies. I couldn't do your job. Thank you.
@extremelycareless25412 жыл бұрын
What do you mean modern day mask ? Like the ITECH ones that Bauer took over and are similar to the masks all goalies currently wear ?
@oneone62682 жыл бұрын
You should talk about how the butterfly style revolutionized leg pads by incorporating large, padded knee landings and a square profile that lays flat on the ice, and how this led to the adoption of modern styles like the VH and Reverse VH post stances. And, how goalie skates started increasing the angle of attack on the blades to make lateral toe pushes easier to do while in the butterfly.
@jongeo2 жыл бұрын
...aaah ok ... i get it why today they all go kneeling. crawling and creeping on the ice 90% of the time. They look like garden gnomes, they pull themselves up only when the siren will blow. The upper side of the net is always open and free to all, more goals should be scored.... It's not the case ... Strange !! **** A reminder : Glenn Hall has "invented" this " Butterfly style" (for those who think hockey is a robot game) but G. hall was not sleeping laying on the ice 99% of time, he was alert, fast and nimble. A pleasure to watch. That's long gone .... Video game's style of incompetent goalies is the norm today. No wonder why the Vezina today is given only to those friendly with the GMs, goals against don't count anymore.
@catholiccowboy85452 жыл бұрын
I was going to suggest this. Lighter materials that don’t absorb water and take on weight allow the up and down of the butterfly without exhausting the goalie. Mask shape has also been optimized to reduce impact of shots allowing goalies to stay down in the line of fire.
@bobreid50792 жыл бұрын
The " butterfly style " was " invented "(lol) long ago by Glenn Hall in the late 50s, early 60s and it revolutionized nothing .. lol .. . Today they invented the " bed and box spring " style. There i corrected it, it's more accurate.
@catholiccowboy85452 жыл бұрын
To hell with the butterfly style.. be unpredictable and reactive. All this bullshit with going down on every shot I see now. That’s how I play, and it works.
@lo-fi85582 жыл бұрын
@@lo-fi8558 .. actually today's style it's anything but butterfly because they are + 3/4 of the game crawling on their knees, stuck on ice and logically it should be called the Suction style. Today really anybody could be a goalie even a great goalie because they look like and they are robots, square and large and wide (they remind me of 2 barn doors) and i think they are on wheels too. Even the catcher's mitt is enormous ... lol why so big really ???!!!! The leg pads, those Styrofoam boards, go up to the navel ... so funny .. lol ... They are stuck there real monolith, they move as little as possible because they can't .. Oh yes sure they have great fancy moves sliding on knees from left to right and right to left. Better than nothing ! The only true real improvement today is the mask- helmet, nothing else.
@catholiccowboy85452 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how old hockey actually is, and the fact that most rules and equipment remained so similar.
@m-h12692 жыл бұрын
5:31 - whait a minute here, in the earlier 80's we saw the introduction of caged-helmets for goalies. They where heavily used on international ice such as in the Olympics and in the World championship tournaments. Heck already in the 1980's Olympics, Sovietunion goalkeeper Vladislav Tretiak used such helmet as seen on pictures. So NHL was just slow to adapt.
@WarioSaysSo2 жыл бұрын
That was a cage and helmet combo, vs the cage/mask which was introduced in the 80's and is the standard today. It has also become the standard for baseball catchers.
@tedlane98772 жыл бұрын
@@tedlane9877 It was sooo weird the first time I saw that Jays highlight clip on espn, "the eff?! Is that guy wearing?" Irbe and Dominic wore those extended metal face-cages--which swing open on a hinge from where they attached to a regular forward's helmet--as "the cage and helmet combo" well into the late 90's
@jppatterson71422 жыл бұрын
I grew up watching 80s hockey. Many goalies were small and the position wasn’t evolved like it is now so yeah they let in some bad goals. But it was fun as hell because each goalie played a unique style and there were a lot of acrobatics and some amazing desperation saves. Some of those 80s goalies went on to win Stanley Cups in the mid to late 90s when guys like Jagr and Lindros were playing so I guess they weren’t that bad!
@Keplerb-od1lr2 жыл бұрын
Hasek was one of the most entertaining goalies ever. He had the best desperation saves I have ever seen.
@leeham62302 жыл бұрын
I didn't know the cageless fiberglass masks were still being worn in the 80's. Glad i grew up playing goalie in the 90's lol
@josephwright88392 жыл бұрын
His dates were off I'm pretty sure it was around the 70's when the modern masks showed up
@spooniiboii2 жыл бұрын
@@spooniiboii Fuhr and several others wore cageless fibreglass masks into the mid 80's (check 1985 Stanley Cup FInal). No relevance as to when modern masks first showed up.
@95PoundMole2 жыл бұрын
His research is wrong. I played in the 80s.
@PeteV802 жыл бұрын
The form fitted mask went away when they started to certify equipment
@bobchisholm90952 жыл бұрын
Got my first mask in 94. It was kevlar reinforced fiberglass with metal cage. Felix Potvan had the first cats eye cage like shown in the video, right? I didn't see Plastic masks like Itec come out until ~98-99.
@jppatterson71422 жыл бұрын
Considering that Tony Esposito retired in 1984 it’s hard to understand how he did anything in 1988…
@shylawild2 жыл бұрын
Lots of misinformation in the comments as well. He said early goal pads were made of plastic and leather, leather yes, plastic as we know it was not invented yet.
@jethro1963 Жыл бұрын
As someone who played in the 80's with 70's equipment, and then again 2010-2017 with modern equipment.. MAN I feel bulletproof in the newer stuff.
@innercityprepper2 жыл бұрын
For sure. It makes you that much better in newer equipment to cover the whole net and to move around so easily. I played with 80's equipment. It was terrible. I couldn't move because the pads were to heavy and it wouldn't cover a lot of the net.
@tonyp93132 жыл бұрын
This guy is the definition of underrated
@joeylyons62103 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@charlie88942 жыл бұрын
he only ever made one video what do you expect
@grapefruit93082 жыл бұрын
The information is 90% correct, but the narrator is horrible
@XapnoMapkc2 жыл бұрын
@@XapnoMapkc 90% is pushin' it. Somehow Eddie Cheever somehow jumped from the race track to the Bruins goal :)
@jethro1963 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, man! I don't think I've seen one that's gone this in-depth and so far back in history. If this is the first video, I can't wait to see what more you bring.
@wakuljrv2 жыл бұрын
‘Gerry ‘ Cheevers. His back up goalie was Eddie Johnston. Though I’m a Montrealer I was a Bruins fan when I was 12 and Bobby Orr was my hero. They had Espo Cashman Hodge Green Bucyk Sanderson they were great. I am however a Habs fan now. Lol
@johngore77442 жыл бұрын
John gore thanks for catching Eddy cheevers..I m less forgiving than u. It would be cool to have been to a game at the gaaaden w you. I saw lots of good stuff, Bobby hulls 600th goal at my first game. 14500 fans standing o, except 1 little asshole miffed that game would end in a 5to5 tie. It was me btw.
@stevesmith21392 жыл бұрын
Thanks... finally someone else knows it’s Gerry
@zacharychandonnet42892 жыл бұрын
I believe Eddie Johnston was from Montreal.
@vincentlefebvre92552 жыл бұрын
Woops I posted this same thing, beat me by 6 months tho 😀 kinda
@Jingling-MelO2 жыл бұрын
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@Jingling-MelO2 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO! Loved watching the progression of hockey!
@stephenmason57732 жыл бұрын
There were some changes not documented. Some manufacturers changed the shape of the blocker from a rectangle to one with a parallelograms at the top and bottom. Brian's came up with the toe shield that covered the gap between the boot of the pads to the ice. Both aren't around anymore. Chest protection changed from being two separate pieces, the chest protector and arm protector to one-piece. Goalie pants also evolved and some manufacturers developed the girdle and shell design like CCM. Straps on leg pads went from being leather to now being replaced with elastic straps held on with velcro. Toe straps are gone and toe ties are used. The hole in the front of the leg pad's boot section is gone and is one continuous section of padding in the front of the foot. Skates have changed to from a one piece metal blade like figure skates attached to the bottom of a boot to a cowl covering the bottom of the boot that holds the blade. Now, the cowl has been replaced with a blade holder riveted to the bottom of the boot as goalies. A thicker shell is attached to the skate boot's toe area.
@place_desjardins2 жыл бұрын
The blocker change was from Vaughn Vison blocker. The B3500 model. The toe shields were called 'puck foils' and were banned.
@oscarwinner20342 жыл бұрын
You have something going here man dont stop on the Hope's of a one hit wonder! Love the content man, goalie history videos are few, and far between.
@daneneedoba89302 жыл бұрын
Nice video i learned a lot of stuff! Earned my sub
@regnarix85573 жыл бұрын
I love this you deserve more subscribers ❤️
@tokay87303 жыл бұрын
Remember us when you get big
@333general3 жыл бұрын
Won't get far with one video unfortunately lol but hopefully more comes out!! Great video
@notveryobviousguy43732 жыл бұрын
@@notveryobviousguy4373 it’s only one video but it’s still amazing
@iguanamisbeaver32802 жыл бұрын
He won’t get big with this horrible audio 😂
@maliksumner5022 жыл бұрын
@@maliksumner502 wasn't that bad, couldn't been worst. This Audio was still better than most NHL interviews this year lol
@notveryobviousguy43732 жыл бұрын
*NOTVERY* Obviousguy It's crazy how he went from zero to almost 500 (probably more now, depending on when this comment is being read) with this one video though. Every time I check it's grown by almost 100 subscribers.
@Nate-12442 жыл бұрын
Great video, very well done!
@maestroff27683 жыл бұрын
keep posting! really enjoyed this video.
@oofer342 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting together a great video.
@thisguyagain78572 жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching me more about hockey
@ironmanfann19793 жыл бұрын
An awesome production, I didn't know why Cheevers mask had stiches until this video, Thank you for this video...
@macahdahma73822 жыл бұрын
Kids used to write to Cheevers asking for a mask like his. He'd write back, telling them to send him a dollar. The kids would send him a dollar and he'd send them a marker. 😂
@magich8ball2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Very helpful, and informative! Keep up the good work!
@Nate-12443 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zachary Quinto. That was fun and informative
@rzgrimes Жыл бұрын
Great job on this video! Super informative!
@matthewlopes86892 жыл бұрын
You earned another subscriber
@homeofhockey70713 жыл бұрын
Ya
@king_m46962 жыл бұрын
Great vid!!
@pixxy_kidlink76423 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Keep up the great work!
@cdrhiggins2 жыл бұрын
Dude its crazy how hockey was created in 1895, and its a huge thing in 2021. Btw, i have goalie content if you ever want to check that out. 🙃
@lucaromeo75502 жыл бұрын
Hockey has become so different man
@rphilly66442 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I remember some goalies in the 90s like Chris Osgood would wear a baseball catcher face mask.
@HereRightNowEternally Жыл бұрын
My first 'pro' goalie pads were Cooper GP59s, cow leather stuffed with deer hair. Chest-arm pads were wool felt with little rubber patches sewn onto elbows. They were heavy, got soaked and smelly from sweat but would last a century. First mask was a catcher's cage. No foam, no plastic, no carbon fiber sticks with varying flex. Couldn't believe the difference in weight from the Cooper to the Vaughn foam. Better living through chemistry!
@massivecumshot3 ай бұрын
Nicely done! Very interesting!
@danf.29712 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of 70's Kennesky pads squirrelled away.Nice vid.
@individual19772 жыл бұрын
Sweet video bro.. so authentic compared to all the glossed up shite people put out nowadays.. subscribed!
@senna1382 жыл бұрын
Good video.U have my like!!!
@marek33962 жыл бұрын
@3:38 that goalie is gilles Gratton, look him up, he was so crazy he would bark at players and growl at them , he was nicknamed gratoony the loony for a reason. Someone wrote a book about him, you should make a video about him lol
@notveryobviousguy43732 жыл бұрын
I played goal in the 90s, and pads were nowhere near the lightness and slickness of today where you can slide on your knees and have very light pads. However, my pads were probably bigger though heavy. I was also one of the tallest goalies at 6’0, but would be considered small today.
@luvslogistics17252 жыл бұрын
awesome video! thank you!
@kevindavidparra85572 жыл бұрын
You got yourself a sub. Amazing video.
@drfritz35172 жыл бұрын
Cool video bro, thanks
@diggydumbo92943 жыл бұрын
I used to use those old brown deer hair filled pads and waffle board blocker and the equivalent of a Carhartt jacket for a chest protector....those shots hurt! And the pads got wet and heavy! I'm surprised I still keep playing goalie! I must be into pain and punishment....LOL!
@shawnwhalen83143 жыл бұрын
Yeah same here minus the carhartt lol. I did use my Vaughn chest protector til i stopped playing. I got that thing when i was in 8th grade and I stopped around 36 year old. I tried to replace it a few times but i HATED how bulky the new chest protectors where and felt they would hurt my game more than help it. I was never very flexable so speed and quickness was my game. Having that old Vaughn allowed me to move fast.
@beezer56232 жыл бұрын
@@beezer5623 I swear my stuff belonged to Terry Sawchuck! LOL! I eventually got modern gear. I just recently gave my stuff to my buddies kid. It was early 90's Bauer/ Cooper and Vaughn gear. I'm 50 yrs old now...a few knee surgeries from being a butterfly style goaltender put an end to my Goalie days....but I still play Forward and Defense though!
@shawnwhalen83142 жыл бұрын
@@shawnwhalen8314 48 today, hip replacement 3 years ago, next one is on 6/28. I’ll be back on the ice at some point. Lol can’t stay away. Hockey is like a drug. No more goalie of course but I love skating up front. I’ll just mess around with my grandsons for now 👍
@beezer56232 жыл бұрын
When I started playing goal, we used community-donated equipment that had been used for at least two generations before we got it... this was the early/mid 70’s so the pads, gloves and chest protector/arm pads (separate units) were at least 20 yrs old when we got them lol I got my first set of my own equipment when I was 13 😂
@melgreier16302 жыл бұрын
@@melgreier1630 oh yeah I remember those days. Lol they still do that at my local rink. I’m going to donate my stuff so maybe someone will use it one day.
@beezer56232 жыл бұрын
The biggest change is isn’t the dimensions it’s the mechanics of the goal pads and how they can be used allowing tenders to move while in the butterfly .. therefor they can go down seal the Ice and stay down .. rather than dive or pop up and move across . This is a a why taller goalies have had more success . Once down the taller goalie still covers a good portion of the upper net and can move in that position across the net
@bobbyhulll87372 жыл бұрын
Ron Hextall was the first to score a goal and the first to place a water bottle on top of the next. Now there is a slot behind the net to store the water bottle. Before these changes, goalies used to skate to the bench to get water, slowing down the game.
@robertfeinberg7482 жыл бұрын
bro this is sick he put the time tn to studying goaltending for are enjoyment love it
@bubdooberg69812 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Sir! I played goalie from 1980-2000. I tried to get back in in 2010. Aside from my body not doing what it used to, the gear and style of play was drastically different. Gone are the days of the two pad stack and skate saves. I was good, key word was. Without $4000 to drop on new gear my $2000 did not buy the best tech in pads and I could feel it. The angles In the he butterfly were just off enough to present a gaps. Also the positioning of the goal and the crease were a big change. A video on that would be cool.( if not already up). I could go on. I was taught it’s not the arrow it’s the Indian that makes a worrier. But in a ice hockey goalie’s case there is a lot in what bow one has. Thanks again for the video.
@Bekind-442 жыл бұрын
You can still stack the pads in the modern era! I don't have many opportunities to use it, but man does it look good when I bust it out :D
@warmpie13162 жыл бұрын
Tony Esposito retired in 84, he was wearing that mask in the 70s
@burrcrank2 жыл бұрын
You've just earned a subscriber!
@Nate-12443 жыл бұрын
I subbed to
@hockey91963 жыл бұрын
Same
@homeofhockey70713 жыл бұрын
Me to
@Pshl1233 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, I was his first subscriber
@Nate-12443 жыл бұрын
You can see goalies dont do up their pad straps now. They used to cinch them up tight. Now they leave them extremly loose so when they drop to their knees the pads go horizontal without trying.
@rona6063 Жыл бұрын
Good video thanks for posting.
@johnnyboy4me2 жыл бұрын
New sub, what a video!!!
@goalie_joan122 жыл бұрын
I get wanting larger pads, however personally I wear one size smaller. My style requires as much movement as possible so I need as little bulk as possible. My only complaint about my leg pads is they need to add more cushioning to the landing area for your knees. I get really bad bruising on my knee caps from dropping unless I have volleyball knee pads on under my leg pads. I'm sure they could come up with some type of internal system that cradles and cushions the knee cap area.
@dimetime35c Жыл бұрын
This is a underrated vid
@dallasstarsfan84062 жыл бұрын
Great piece! I've always loved goalie equipment. You missed just one thing- you went from Tony Esposito's hybrid cage/mask to the late 90s when companies adapted the model modern skipping over the birdcage. Russian goalie Vladislav Tretriak was the first to use it, then Billy Smith, Glen Hanlon, Hasek and Osgood wore them too. Smith was also the first goalie that I knew of to use colored pads beginning in 1980 along with a black goalie stick. I guess you can say he was ahead of his time esthetic-wise.
@anthonyriche5522 жыл бұрын
Well, this video is centered around NHL goalies - forgetting that there were other countries with goalies just as good.
@Vinterfrid2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, u got ur 500th subs, congrats
@meduxavision60272 жыл бұрын
You got my sub!
@nutrock5222 жыл бұрын
Can you make a Evolution of hockey Equipment plz. I really like this video!
@ksnortyrocks34922 жыл бұрын
No one will ever look cooler than Dominick Hasek in his gear and black Sabres uniform.
@dr.loomis4221 Жыл бұрын
Well done.very fascinating
@MrFennmeista2 жыл бұрын
I subbed!!!
@jennamanji46763 жыл бұрын
This is simply amazing, And also that this is your one and only upload. You're a natural!!
@dvorgur2 жыл бұрын
In the 70's, our upper body protection was mostly thick cheese cloth, with a baseball chest protector. About every other shot, to the arms, hurt and frequently left a bruise. Modern goalie gear is so protective, that you no longer think of blinking, because you don't expect anything to hurt.
@laserdad Жыл бұрын
I love your videos
@Gabriel-mp8yi2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really interesting, just what's up with the music at the end ?
@elieenquatrelettres58052 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: I’m related to the one and only, Jacques Plante
@Noodles-The-Hunter-Vanguard2 жыл бұрын
Ok
@R0n1n8092 жыл бұрын
Ok
@michaelreyderman79112 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty cool man, ignore these 3 kids who are just saying ok in an IDC style
@AWCTB2 жыл бұрын
Hello from Toronto Canada May l be so bold and ask would you join a friendly podcast with a bunch of great goalie guy’s. No pressure happy to answer any questions.. JP was an innovator. Cheers
@smartergoalie812 жыл бұрын
@@AWCTB ok
@michaelreyderman79112 жыл бұрын
If you watch highlights from 80's and earlier, so many goals scored along the ice. Today with the "lie-flat" leg pads and prevalence of butterfly/hybrid style those shots have basically no chance.
@spectre2052 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video! Please do more evolution videos! Keep ‘em coming!
@ducksfan35252 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 1k
@elitenerfnerd2.0682 жыл бұрын
2:09 I dont know why but those old school blockers always reminded me of ice cream sandwich bars.
@DevilFish69 Жыл бұрын
Underrated!
@contentcrasher7512 жыл бұрын
nice video, i wish I had the current style of goalie pads back when i was playing. They would have fit my play style perfectly.
@beezer56232 жыл бұрын
The goalie equipment I wore in the 70s was like newspaper compared to today's.Plus it weights a ton. I'd take shots from a cannon with the new stuff.
@kevmac12302 жыл бұрын
I subbedddd!
@hockey91963 жыл бұрын
Now this is what I call a good video
@hegoingxgamemodes41912 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@rusevdai58102 жыл бұрын
keep improving those editing skills man, especially with the background music
@Habibihaboobie2 жыл бұрын
Great Video…. id love to see a video on the evolution of Goaltending and not just on the Equipment or the Mask’s. Awesome video, thanks brother
@howardcraigiv518 Жыл бұрын
A couple of corrections 1) plastic wasn't invented till 1907, so it couldn't have been used in goalie eq prior to that as stated, 2) the correct name is "Gerry Cheevers" not Eddie, 3) Teiji Honma, of the 1936 Japanese Olympic Ice Hockey team, wore a goalie mask with a cage over his face and eyes. However, it is a nice overview. I started playing goal in 1970 and still play today. I've been more of a "Gump Worsley" model of a goalie, rather than a Ben Bishop model.
@thecaptainonline8 ай бұрын
Eddie Cheever is an American fotmer F1 , Indy Car and Prototype Sports Car racer. 😆
@413TomaccoRoad6 ай бұрын
the butterfly stance chased gretzky to retirement
@graz9372 Жыл бұрын
Subbed
@mariamagiba75703 жыл бұрын
right vid bro high 5 from the uk
@jamescoleman60483 жыл бұрын
Very interesting content, thank you so much for putting this together!
@jetovpici2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t mention how much the butterfly effected equipment design. It changed the design of sticks to have blades that could sit flat on the ice in the butterfly, pads with lips around the outer side of the goalies leg to help with rebound control, thicker padding to protect a goalies inner side knees for dropping in the butterfly, the adaption of thigh and rear leg protection, and the adaption of double netted gloves allowing for more energy to be taken away from the puck to assist in rebound control. I’m also quite surprised you didn’t mention the change in goalie skate design from players. Goalie skates began to be build heavier and with double outer edged blades so that goalies could move more laterally, and have less risk of damaging their skate blades from kicking off the posts. Another one you missed is the hybrid pad type. Butterfly pads are wider and have a much softer surface to aid in rebound control at the cost of speed which is fine because butterfly goalies play a positional game where they can control rebounds and stay square with shooters well. However, the hybrid pad innovation which has recently evolved to also have the qualities of butterfly pads are designed more flexible and lighter allowing goalies to move faster and more flexibly at the cost of rebound control and equipment that needs to be replaced faster. Recently however True and Bauer have been able to make butterfly pads as flexible as hybrid pads without the accordion design in the pad making better rebound control. Lastly, I’m surprised you didn’t mention the brief period where visors and what were basically just player helmets with neck protectors were used. Hasek and Tim Thomas were well known for that old helmet design.
@greathoonta3461 Жыл бұрын
This was absolutely amazing for a first video. Was surprised when I saw that it actually was.
@zekejenrich50233 жыл бұрын
Curved goalie sticks were in the NHL by the late 60's- early 70's. I went to a small day hockey camp in 1973 that was run by Billy and Gordie Smith. Billy (yes THAT Billy Smith) had a curved goalie stick.
@413TomaccoRoad6 ай бұрын
Great video
@zsoltszabo64822 жыл бұрын
Love the video
@jonyy22682 жыл бұрын
My grandpa was at the game when the first mass was introduced against the rangers
@rollercoastermike46732 жыл бұрын
Nice vid!
@thehungrynoodle25452 жыл бұрын
Goalie masks showed up in the 80’s. Helmet and cage combos first debuted in the 70’s with Tretiak I believe.
@JamesWilliams-kt5qr2 жыл бұрын
There were some before but Tretiak's model was a giant leap. I had started playing with a fiberglass mask before.
@vincentlefebvre92552 жыл бұрын
helmet and cage were very common in the 80s
@rona6063 Жыл бұрын
I think the curved stick was invented by accident in the 60s when a player named Boom Boom Geofreon broke the blade of his stick in practice, putting a bend in it. He kept using the broken blade stick during practice and noticed he could raise the puck way easier with the curved blade. Later players started heating the blades of their sticks to bend them. The curves of the blades got so ridiculous they had to enforce regulations on the extent of the curve
@drfunk4442 жыл бұрын
Mikita was first
@Bruins-vq5ey2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I enjoyed watching it. Just an FYI tho it was Gerry Cheevers, not Eddie Cheevers, of the Boston Bruins that had the white mask with stitches.
@Jingling-MelO2 жыл бұрын
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@Jingling-MelO2 жыл бұрын
Just 11k views for this masterpiece
@m0nkitaped9573 жыл бұрын
billy smith was first goalie to wear colored goalie pads . started wearing them in 1976
@bb-gc2tx2 жыл бұрын
Wow so good. This guy is gonna become famous :)
@campaign2743 жыл бұрын
Tretyak started to use the primar version of the modern hockey goalie mask already in 70s fir the USSR. NHL lagged really behind
@Bahhir281 Жыл бұрын
Yikes, you got over 300 subscribers now. I've never seen anyone jump so fast. Last I checked, which was like 2 days ago, you were under 300. Keep making videos as good as this, you'll have millions. How could anyone dislike this video? Must be hockey haters. Haha
@Nate-12442 жыл бұрын
Lol... Idk if they still make them, but as kids we used to use phonebooks for pads and chest protectors...
@philminkeesickquayash89882 жыл бұрын
You forgot to to indicate that the first proper cage mask where the helmet masks introduced by Soviet Goalie Tretiak when they played against Montreal in 1975 they were more primitive; goalies wearing this masks was mike Vernon, ken wregget among others, then the mask became the fibre glass modern styles we see today
It's worth mentioning also that the Clint Malarchuk incident in 1989, popularized the wearing of neck protection which was mostly inexistent at the time.
That was a wicked injury. I remember seeing that and saying "Wait, that's possible?" It just didn't seem real.
@@augustussohn893 Yeah they cut to commercial real quick. They didn't want to show a man die on TV. Paramedics must have done a really good job for him to survive. edit: apparently his trainer served it Vietnam and knew to pinch the artery.
Bro I remember that blade
My guy has PTSD when he sees a skate now
@@augustussohn893 oh mini b
Original goalie equipment: used to protect the player wearing it. Modern goalie equipment: used to stop the puck.
Having played since the 60's, I can say that equipment of that era did a lousy job of protecting the goalie! Today's gear is leap years ahead. My current pads and gloves are actually smaller than the gear I wore twenty years ago.
@@tedlane9877 never said the old equipment was good, stated why it was originally worn.
@@tedlane9877 you’re still tending the net after all these years? Good for you guy 👍😃
These days it also protects the player wearing it. But if it can both improve your ability to play your role on the ice, while keeping you safe why not?
I started playing goalie in the 80s. I stopped playing goalie in 2008 because my knees couldn't take it anymore. The evolution of the equipment has been amazing and I can't believe how light the gear is now. I was the first goalie at my high school to wear a modern day type mask. I got a hard time about wearing one. But I think my senior year GAA still stands today (~1.15). Probably because I felt invincible behind it. :)
You don't have to play butterfly.thdre are still some companies making traditional goalie leg pads like brown Miller and kenesky. Brown will make you an old school pad in 3 weeks. I have 13.25 inch wide pads from brown hockey
I had a couple of good goalies. I couldn't do your job. Thank you.
What do you mean modern day mask ? Like the ITECH ones that Bauer took over and are similar to the masks all goalies currently wear ?
You should talk about how the butterfly style revolutionized leg pads by incorporating large, padded knee landings and a square profile that lays flat on the ice, and how this led to the adoption of modern styles like the VH and Reverse VH post stances. And, how goalie skates started increasing the angle of attack on the blades to make lateral toe pushes easier to do while in the butterfly.
...aaah ok ... i get it why today they all go kneeling. crawling and creeping on the ice 90% of the time. They look like garden gnomes, they pull themselves up only when the siren will blow. The upper side of the net is always open and free to all, more goals should be scored.... It's not the case ... Strange !! **** A reminder : Glenn Hall has "invented" this " Butterfly style" (for those who think hockey is a robot game) but G. hall was not sleeping laying on the ice 99% of time, he was alert, fast and nimble. A pleasure to watch. That's long gone .... Video game's style of incompetent goalies is the norm today. No wonder why the Vezina today is given only to those friendly with the GMs, goals against don't count anymore.
I was going to suggest this. Lighter materials that don’t absorb water and take on weight allow the up and down of the butterfly without exhausting the goalie. Mask shape has also been optimized to reduce impact of shots allowing goalies to stay down in the line of fire.
The " butterfly style " was " invented "(lol) long ago by Glenn Hall in the late 50s, early 60s and it revolutionized nothing .. lol .. . Today they invented the " bed and box spring " style. There i corrected it, it's more accurate.
To hell with the butterfly style.. be unpredictable and reactive. All this bullshit with going down on every shot I see now. That’s how I play, and it works.
@@lo-fi8558 .. actually today's style it's anything but butterfly because they are + 3/4 of the game crawling on their knees, stuck on ice and logically it should be called the Suction style. Today really anybody could be a goalie even a great goalie because they look like and they are robots, square and large and wide (they remind me of 2 barn doors) and i think they are on wheels too. Even the catcher's mitt is enormous ... lol why so big really ???!!!! The leg pads, those Styrofoam boards, go up to the navel ... so funny .. lol ... They are stuck there real monolith, they move as little as possible because they can't .. Oh yes sure they have great fancy moves sliding on knees from left to right and right to left. Better than nothing ! The only true real improvement today is the mask- helmet, nothing else.
It’s crazy how old hockey actually is, and the fact that most rules and equipment remained so similar.
5:31 - whait a minute here, in the earlier 80's we saw the introduction of caged-helmets for goalies. They where heavily used on international ice such as in the Olympics and in the World championship tournaments. Heck already in the 1980's Olympics, Sovietunion goalkeeper Vladislav Tretiak used such helmet as seen on pictures. So NHL was just slow to adapt.
That was a cage and helmet combo, vs the cage/mask which was introduced in the 80's and is the standard today. It has also become the standard for baseball catchers.
@@tedlane9877 It was sooo weird the first time I saw that Jays highlight clip on espn, "the eff?! Is that guy wearing?" Irbe and Dominic wore those extended metal face-cages--which swing open on a hinge from where they attached to a regular forward's helmet--as "the cage and helmet combo" well into the late 90's
I grew up watching 80s hockey. Many goalies were small and the position wasn’t evolved like it is now so yeah they let in some bad goals. But it was fun as hell because each goalie played a unique style and there were a lot of acrobatics and some amazing desperation saves. Some of those 80s goalies went on to win Stanley Cups in the mid to late 90s when guys like Jagr and Lindros were playing so I guess they weren’t that bad!
Hasek was one of the most entertaining goalies ever. He had the best desperation saves I have ever seen.
I didn't know the cageless fiberglass masks were still being worn in the 80's. Glad i grew up playing goalie in the 90's lol
His dates were off I'm pretty sure it was around the 70's when the modern masks showed up
@@spooniiboii Fuhr and several others wore cageless fibreglass masks into the mid 80's (check 1985 Stanley Cup FInal). No relevance as to when modern masks first showed up.
His research is wrong. I played in the 80s.
The form fitted mask went away when they started to certify equipment
Got my first mask in 94. It was kevlar reinforced fiberglass with metal cage. Felix Potvan had the first cats eye cage like shown in the video, right? I didn't see Plastic masks like Itec come out until ~98-99.
Considering that Tony Esposito retired in 1984 it’s hard to understand how he did anything in 1988…
Lots of misinformation in the comments as well. He said early goal pads were made of plastic and leather, leather yes, plastic as we know it was not invented yet.
As someone who played in the 80's with 70's equipment, and then again 2010-2017 with modern equipment.. MAN I feel bulletproof in the newer stuff.
For sure. It makes you that much better in newer equipment to cover the whole net and to move around so easily. I played with 80's equipment. It was terrible. I couldn't move because the pads were to heavy and it wouldn't cover a lot of the net.
This guy is the definition of underrated
Exactly
he only ever made one video what do you expect
The information is 90% correct, but the narrator is horrible
@@XapnoMapkc 90% is pushin' it. Somehow Eddie Cheever somehow jumped from the race track to the Bruins goal :)
Awesome video, man! I don't think I've seen one that's gone this in-depth and so far back in history. If this is the first video, I can't wait to see what more you bring.
‘Gerry ‘ Cheevers. His back up goalie was Eddie Johnston. Though I’m a Montrealer I was a Bruins fan when I was 12 and Bobby Orr was my hero. They had Espo Cashman Hodge Green Bucyk Sanderson they were great. I am however a Habs fan now. Lol
John gore thanks for catching Eddy cheevers..I m less forgiving than u. It would be cool to have been to a game at the gaaaden w you. I saw lots of good stuff, Bobby hulls 600th goal at my first game. 14500 fans standing o, except 1 little asshole miffed that game would end in a 5to5 tie. It was me btw.
Thanks... finally someone else knows it’s Gerry
I believe Eddie Johnston was from Montreal.
Woops I posted this same thing, beat me by 6 months tho 😀 kinda
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GREAT VIDEO! Loved watching the progression of hockey!
There were some changes not documented. Some manufacturers changed the shape of the blocker from a rectangle to one with a parallelograms at the top and bottom. Brian's came up with the toe shield that covered the gap between the boot of the pads to the ice. Both aren't around anymore. Chest protection changed from being two separate pieces, the chest protector and arm protector to one-piece. Goalie pants also evolved and some manufacturers developed the girdle and shell design like CCM. Straps on leg pads went from being leather to now being replaced with elastic straps held on with velcro. Toe straps are gone and toe ties are used. The hole in the front of the leg pad's boot section is gone and is one continuous section of padding in the front of the foot. Skates have changed to from a one piece metal blade like figure skates attached to the bottom of a boot to a cowl covering the bottom of the boot that holds the blade. Now, the cowl has been replaced with a blade holder riveted to the bottom of the boot as goalies. A thicker shell is attached to the skate boot's toe area.
The blocker change was from Vaughn Vison blocker. The B3500 model. The toe shields were called 'puck foils' and were banned.
You have something going here man dont stop on the Hope's of a one hit wonder! Love the content man, goalie history videos are few, and far between.
Nice video i learned a lot of stuff! Earned my sub
I love this you deserve more subscribers ❤️
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Won't get far with one video unfortunately lol but hopefully more comes out!! Great video
@@notveryobviousguy4373 it’s only one video but it’s still amazing
He won’t get big with this horrible audio 😂
@@maliksumner502 wasn't that bad, couldn't been worst. This Audio was still better than most NHL interviews this year lol
*NOTVERY* Obviousguy It's crazy how he went from zero to almost 500 (probably more now, depending on when this comment is being read) with this one video though. Every time I check it's grown by almost 100 subscribers.
Great video, very well done!
keep posting! really enjoyed this video.
Thank you for putting together a great video.
Thanks for teaching me more about hockey
An awesome production, I didn't know why Cheevers mask had stiches until this video, Thank you for this video...
Kids used to write to Cheevers asking for a mask like his. He'd write back, telling them to send him a dollar. The kids would send him a dollar and he'd send them a marker. 😂
Great Video! Very helpful, and informative! Keep up the good work!
Thanks Zachary Quinto. That was fun and informative
Great job on this video! Super informative!
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Great vid!!
Great stuff! Keep up the great work!
Dude its crazy how hockey was created in 1895, and its a huge thing in 2021. Btw, i have goalie content if you ever want to check that out. 🙃
Hockey has become so different man
Nice video. I remember some goalies in the 90s like Chris Osgood would wear a baseball catcher face mask.
My first 'pro' goalie pads were Cooper GP59s, cow leather stuffed with deer hair. Chest-arm pads were wool felt with little rubber patches sewn onto elbows. They were heavy, got soaked and smelly from sweat but would last a century. First mask was a catcher's cage. No foam, no plastic, no carbon fiber sticks with varying flex. Couldn't believe the difference in weight from the Cooper to the Vaughn foam. Better living through chemistry!
Nicely done! Very interesting!
I have a pair of 70's Kennesky pads squirrelled away.Nice vid.
Sweet video bro.. so authentic compared to all the glossed up shite people put out nowadays.. subscribed!
Good video.U have my like!!!
@3:38 that goalie is gilles Gratton, look him up, he was so crazy he would bark at players and growl at them , he was nicknamed gratoony the loony for a reason. Someone wrote a book about him, you should make a video about him lol
I played goal in the 90s, and pads were nowhere near the lightness and slickness of today where you can slide on your knees and have very light pads. However, my pads were probably bigger though heavy. I was also one of the tallest goalies at 6’0, but would be considered small today.
awesome video! thank you!
You got yourself a sub. Amazing video.
Cool video bro, thanks
I used to use those old brown deer hair filled pads and waffle board blocker and the equivalent of a Carhartt jacket for a chest protector....those shots hurt! And the pads got wet and heavy! I'm surprised I still keep playing goalie! I must be into pain and punishment....LOL!
Yeah same here minus the carhartt lol. I did use my Vaughn chest protector til i stopped playing. I got that thing when i was in 8th grade and I stopped around 36 year old. I tried to replace it a few times but i HATED how bulky the new chest protectors where and felt they would hurt my game more than help it. I was never very flexable so speed and quickness was my game. Having that old Vaughn allowed me to move fast.
@@beezer5623 I swear my stuff belonged to Terry Sawchuck! LOL! I eventually got modern gear. I just recently gave my stuff to my buddies kid. It was early 90's Bauer/ Cooper and Vaughn gear. I'm 50 yrs old now...a few knee surgeries from being a butterfly style goaltender put an end to my Goalie days....but I still play Forward and Defense though!
@@shawnwhalen8314 48 today, hip replacement 3 years ago, next one is on 6/28. I’ll be back on the ice at some point. Lol can’t stay away. Hockey is like a drug. No more goalie of course but I love skating up front. I’ll just mess around with my grandsons for now 👍
When I started playing goal, we used community-donated equipment that had been used for at least two generations before we got it... this was the early/mid 70’s so the pads, gloves and chest protector/arm pads (separate units) were at least 20 yrs old when we got them lol I got my first set of my own equipment when I was 13 😂
@@melgreier1630 oh yeah I remember those days. Lol they still do that at my local rink. I’m going to donate my stuff so maybe someone will use it one day.
The biggest change is isn’t the dimensions it’s the mechanics of the goal pads and how they can be used allowing tenders to move while in the butterfly .. therefor they can go down seal the Ice and stay down .. rather than dive or pop up and move across . This is a a why taller goalies have had more success . Once down the taller goalie still covers a good portion of the upper net and can move in that position across the net
Ron Hextall was the first to score a goal and the first to place a water bottle on top of the next. Now there is a slot behind the net to store the water bottle. Before these changes, goalies used to skate to the bench to get water, slowing down the game.
bro this is sick he put the time tn to studying goaltending for are enjoyment love it
Great stuff Sir! I played goalie from 1980-2000. I tried to get back in in 2010. Aside from my body not doing what it used to, the gear and style of play was drastically different. Gone are the days of the two pad stack and skate saves. I was good, key word was. Without $4000 to drop on new gear my $2000 did not buy the best tech in pads and I could feel it. The angles In the he butterfly were just off enough to present a gaps. Also the positioning of the goal and the crease were a big change. A video on that would be cool.( if not already up). I could go on. I was taught it’s not the arrow it’s the Indian that makes a worrier. But in a ice hockey goalie’s case there is a lot in what bow one has. Thanks again for the video.
You can still stack the pads in the modern era! I don't have many opportunities to use it, but man does it look good when I bust it out :D
Tony Esposito retired in 84, he was wearing that mask in the 70s
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You can see goalies dont do up their pad straps now. They used to cinch them up tight. Now they leave them extremly loose so when they drop to their knees the pads go horizontal without trying.
Good video thanks for posting.
New sub, what a video!!!
I get wanting larger pads, however personally I wear one size smaller. My style requires as much movement as possible so I need as little bulk as possible. My only complaint about my leg pads is they need to add more cushioning to the landing area for your knees. I get really bad bruising on my knee caps from dropping unless I have volleyball knee pads on under my leg pads. I'm sure they could come up with some type of internal system that cradles and cushions the knee cap area.
This is a underrated vid
Great piece! I've always loved goalie equipment. You missed just one thing- you went from Tony Esposito's hybrid cage/mask to the late 90s when companies adapted the model modern skipping over the birdcage. Russian goalie Vladislav Tretriak was the first to use it, then Billy Smith, Glen Hanlon, Hasek and Osgood wore them too. Smith was also the first goalie that I knew of to use colored pads beginning in 1980 along with a black goalie stick. I guess you can say he was ahead of his time esthetic-wise.
Well, this video is centered around NHL goalies - forgetting that there were other countries with goalies just as good.
Nice video, u got ur 500th subs, congrats
You got my sub!
Can you make a Evolution of hockey Equipment plz. I really like this video!
No one will ever look cooler than Dominick Hasek in his gear and black Sabres uniform.
Well done.very fascinating
I subbed!!!
This is simply amazing, And also that this is your one and only upload. You're a natural!!
In the 70's, our upper body protection was mostly thick cheese cloth, with a baseball chest protector. About every other shot, to the arms, hurt and frequently left a bruise. Modern goalie gear is so protective, that you no longer think of blinking, because you don't expect anything to hurt.
I love your videos
Great video, really interesting, just what's up with the music at the end ?
Fun Fact: I’m related to the one and only, Jacques Plante
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That’s pretty cool man, ignore these 3 kids who are just saying ok in an IDC style
Hello from Toronto Canada May l be so bold and ask would you join a friendly podcast with a bunch of great goalie guy’s. No pressure happy to answer any questions.. JP was an innovator. Cheers
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If you watch highlights from 80's and earlier, so many goals scored along the ice. Today with the "lie-flat" leg pads and prevalence of butterfly/hybrid style those shots have basically no chance.
This is an awesome video! Please do more evolution videos! Keep ‘em coming!
Congrats on 1k
2:09 I dont know why but those old school blockers always reminded me of ice cream sandwich bars.
Underrated!
nice video, i wish I had the current style of goalie pads back when i was playing. They would have fit my play style perfectly.
The goalie equipment I wore in the 70s was like newspaper compared to today's.Plus it weights a ton. I'd take shots from a cannon with the new stuff.
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Now this is what I call a good video
Awesome video
keep improving those editing skills man, especially with the background music
Great Video…. id love to see a video on the evolution of Goaltending and not just on the Equipment or the Mask’s. Awesome video, thanks brother
A couple of corrections 1) plastic wasn't invented till 1907, so it couldn't have been used in goalie eq prior to that as stated, 2) the correct name is "Gerry Cheevers" not Eddie, 3) Teiji Honma, of the 1936 Japanese Olympic Ice Hockey team, wore a goalie mask with a cage over his face and eyes. However, it is a nice overview. I started playing goal in 1970 and still play today. I've been more of a "Gump Worsley" model of a goalie, rather than a Ben Bishop model.
Eddie Cheever is an American fotmer F1 , Indy Car and Prototype Sports Car racer. 😆
the butterfly stance chased gretzky to retirement
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Very interesting content, thank you so much for putting this together!
I’m surprised you didn’t mention how much the butterfly effected equipment design. It changed the design of sticks to have blades that could sit flat on the ice in the butterfly, pads with lips around the outer side of the goalies leg to help with rebound control, thicker padding to protect a goalies inner side knees for dropping in the butterfly, the adaption of thigh and rear leg protection, and the adaption of double netted gloves allowing for more energy to be taken away from the puck to assist in rebound control. I’m also quite surprised you didn’t mention the change in goalie skate design from players. Goalie skates began to be build heavier and with double outer edged blades so that goalies could move more laterally, and have less risk of damaging their skate blades from kicking off the posts. Another one you missed is the hybrid pad type. Butterfly pads are wider and have a much softer surface to aid in rebound control at the cost of speed which is fine because butterfly goalies play a positional game where they can control rebounds and stay square with shooters well. However, the hybrid pad innovation which has recently evolved to also have the qualities of butterfly pads are designed more flexible and lighter allowing goalies to move faster and more flexibly at the cost of rebound control and equipment that needs to be replaced faster. Recently however True and Bauer have been able to make butterfly pads as flexible as hybrid pads without the accordion design in the pad making better rebound control. Lastly, I’m surprised you didn’t mention the brief period where visors and what were basically just player helmets with neck protectors were used. Hasek and Tim Thomas were well known for that old helmet design.
This was absolutely amazing for a first video. Was surprised when I saw that it actually was.
Curved goalie sticks were in the NHL by the late 60's- early 70's. I went to a small day hockey camp in 1973 that was run by Billy and Gordie Smith. Billy (yes THAT Billy Smith) had a curved goalie stick.
Great video
Love the video
My grandpa was at the game when the first mass was introduced against the rangers
Nice vid!
Goalie masks showed up in the 80’s. Helmet and cage combos first debuted in the 70’s with Tretiak I believe.
There were some before but Tretiak's model was a giant leap. I had started playing with a fiberglass mask before.
helmet and cage were very common in the 80s
I think the curved stick was invented by accident in the 60s when a player named Boom Boom Geofreon broke the blade of his stick in practice, putting a bend in it. He kept using the broken blade stick during practice and noticed he could raise the puck way easier with the curved blade. Later players started heating the blades of their sticks to bend them. The curves of the blades got so ridiculous they had to enforce regulations on the extent of the curve
Mikita was first
Nice video! I enjoyed watching it. Just an FYI tho it was Gerry Cheevers, not Eddie Cheevers, of the Boston Bruins that had the white mask with stitches.
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Just 11k views for this masterpiece
billy smith was first goalie to wear colored goalie pads . started wearing them in 1976
Wow so good. This guy is gonna become famous :)
Tretyak started to use the primar version of the modern hockey goalie mask already in 70s fir the USSR. NHL lagged really behind
Yikes, you got over 300 subscribers now. I've never seen anyone jump so fast. Last I checked, which was like 2 days ago, you were under 300. Keep making videos as good as this, you'll have millions. How could anyone dislike this video? Must be hockey haters. Haha
Lol... Idk if they still make them, but as kids we used to use phonebooks for pads and chest protectors...
You forgot to to indicate that the first proper cage mask where the helmet masks introduced by Soviet Goalie Tretiak when they played against Montreal in 1975 they were more primitive; goalies wearing this masks was mike Vernon, ken wregget among others, then the mask became the fibre glass modern styles we see today