Viewer requested video for a long term review of our CF Moto Cforce 600 ATV and Uforce 1000 utility side by side
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Viewer requested video for a long term review of our CF Moto Cforce 600 ATV and Uforce 1000 utility side by side
Link to CFMoto USA Parts
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I purchased a UForce 800 1 year ago partially because of seeing CFMoto on your channel. I have almost 500 miles on it now, use it everyday during the summer and occasionaly during the winter. My only complaint is the jumpy reverse and low range. I have pulled heavy trailers with zero problems. I have loaded heavy pieces of concrete in the bed with zero problems. I have gone through snow drifts without even a thought of getting stuck. I have pulled downed tree limbs. In short, I use it, try not to abuse it and have had absolutely no problems. Starts first time, every time. Goes everywhere I want to go. I have 2 friends that have Kawaski Mules. I wouldn't trade with them. Thank you for an honest review
I viewed a video showing a RNG clutch kit that provides a smooth take-off.
I have one, just bought a cf110 for my son, dealer told me they have discontinued the 800😢 only gonna carry parts for a little while longer
I love your channel. Found it last night. I’ve owned my cforce 600 since July of 2021. I love it. I have changed my clutching in mine so the engagement is totally different. I recommend do this for you! I have a zforce spring and have added Pennys behind my clutch weights. This has helped me out big time.
I wasn't aware of CF Moto until I saw it here on your channel. After doing my own research, I purchased a '23 Uforce 1000. I have a similar set up as you. The CF Moto solid doors on mine are able to split top and bottom for summer use and better airflow.
How much$ ?
$14,000 plus options the website let's you build one with the options you want. The price was spot on to what the dealer charged.
I’ve got a 22 year old atv that I can still get parts for. Longevity is the biggest factor for me. Time will tell if price point is worth it in the long run.
that becomes absolutely irrelevant if you can`t afford it. a CFMoto might hold 10 years compared to a Polaris, Canam, Yamaha etc which might hold for 20 - I simply can`t afford an ATV which is 30-50% more expensive. Your argument makes perfect sense when I can afford the long-term reliability of a product.
When we were shopping for a SxS stock was limited and after trying out all the brands we liked the UForce 1000 best. I was worried about going with a Chinese brand but researching other name brands I found many that quietly use Chinese engines and drivetrains. Our dealer sold many name brands but offered an extended warranty for the CF Moto, so we purchased the UForce almost 18 months ago. We use it every day on the farm and have enjoyed it. The drive by wire throttle and jumpy clutch is the biggest difference between other brands but it can be minimized with a clutch adjustment or by changing out the spring and weights. We added a $200 kit and that helped a bunch. Overall CF Moto is priced a solid 30%-40% less than the competition and a value bomb IMO.
Good information to know. Your equipment shed looks so much bigger from the road than it does on camera. Good job on that Adam! Have a great weekend,take care and God Bless!!!❤😊
Thanks for the comparisons and updates. Personally, I’ve always been the guy that buys the name brands and for good reason. Equipment brands that have been around for over 75 years or more, are proven. Sure, you have to pay for that quality, but I keep my stuff for a loooong time and maintain them. I will have my Yamaha 4 wheeler till I am too old to ride it. I currently drive a 17 year old Silverado that has no rust and I’ll have that for at least another 10 years. So, buy once cry once, but I’m happy the whole way!
Agreed, a few extra dollars on a tried and true brand is way cheaper in the long run, like you I buy it once and use it for as long as possible.
I would hardly call $8,000 A few extra dollars. If it was $1,000 or even $2,000 more maybe I woulda gone with a different machine. But I’m not rich enough that $8,000 doesn’t mean something to me and my family.
It’s all good Adam just different approaches man. Seriously though you have more equipment then me and all my neighbors so if you aren’t rich you are extremely leveraged.
@@scottrivers6472 nope. I have so much equipment because I buy Hyundai instead of John Deere and CF Moto instead of Polaris. Like I said. 2 for the price of one
I do think that older folks sometimes assume that those 'older brands' or more expensive brands always mean that quality or service is actually higher, and that is not always the case. I have off-brand versions of a lot of things that I also have the big-name player brand and a lot of times the off-branded one ends up being better overall.
Great overview of your experiences with these machines. Like you, I use equipment without abusing it. I see too many people treat equipment like they've got WAY too much money.
Great review Adam. We have the 600 and the uforce 1000xl. One thing on the uforce that may help you. When in low, for the work you do, keep it in “work” mode. You will find it isn’t as lurchy as what you are experiencing. The switch helps with gearing and helps us around the farm. Hope that helps.
You’re able to take the top section of the door off for summer riding. My doors came with a second set of seals that seal up just the bottom section of the door. It’s a very easy switch over. There’s guys also removing the center hinge pins and installing roll pins and then you’re able to remove the entire door jeep style. There great machines!
Adam, As one of your original subscribers, I am glad to see you succeed so well on KZhead. I hope you and your family have a great Christmas and a prosperous and safe 2024.
Have my cfmoto 600 single seater 2022 still looks brand new always take care of it no issues
Great review - lots of detail on pros and cons
I got the Uforce 1000 a month ago and youre right on every mark. The jerkiness taking off is a bit excessive. Ive plowed with it once and it was something to get used to. I got the superatv vented glass windshield with manual wiper. Im still considering the hard doors as this is mostly a winter machine. Im in NY so we get similar weather as you. But I love it. The $1800 end of year discount helped alot!
I’m glad to hear so many other owners agreeing with the review
How much $?
Get a clutch kit from Main Street cycle and it helps.
That jerkiness of the uforce 1000 is a deal breaker for me. In low and when using it to work, hook up trailers, tow, loaded bed, etc would make this a unit a problem. One should plan on getting an aftermarket clutch kit at the time of purchasing the unit.
Thanks for the great review. I’ve been running on Polaris Sportsman’s for the last 20yrs. With the price of the new ones, I’m a little nervous, but I think I’m ready to make the switch to CForce Moto’s. Your review has helped me with my decision to brand switch. I’m like you, I don’t abuse my machines, keep them clean and serviced to last the long haul. Great help. Thanks again! Maxx
Great review! I have the Kawasaki Teryx and have been very happy with it. I did buy it with a rebate for $13,500 back in 2020 before everything went through the roof. Then, as you mentioned adding the accessories gets very expensive. The Kawasaki didn’t even come with a winch. Accessories add up very quickly.
You will always be an Accountant at heart Adam. Not a bad thing. Great review.
Thank you for an honest review. Especially pointing out the gas pedal issue. I agree that you shouldn't need to purchase a clutch kit for a new machine. I am a Polaris fan. Have had my scrambler for 24 years. But I am currently looking to get something a little more utility rather than a sport utility. Polaris has never left me sitting in the woods.
I bought a U1000 in September and pretty much use it for what you do. Only difference is my deer plot work. My ground work I do with a 55hp 4x4 tractor but spraying and spreading is done with the U1000.. You should talk to your friend at 3Seas about a clutch kit and get your handy neighbor to help with installing it. Would make a good video, especially if he makes a couple tools for it👍
Great in depth review on both your machinec. CF Moto sure seems like a brand to seriously consider.
I've been in the market for a new machine for snow removal as I've gotten OLD (60s) and CFMoto is a brand I'm strongly considering. That being said, I still have a 1998 Polaris Sportsman that's still going strong and only had one drive belt replacement in all the years. It's been used heavily on the farm towing, working, running trails, pushing snow. But a side by side is more my need now as I've joint issues. The price all in with enclosed cab sounds good to me. Great video!
Old guy here-73-just bought a CF600 in Oct and am very pleased so far. Only knock so far is that mine came w/o battery hold down strap. Dealer caught it during presale prep BUT their shopmonkey torqued the seat support bolts so tight I needed my impact to loosen them when I went to install the strap. Oh, and it wouldn't start today after a -20F night😢. I see a battery warmer in my future ...
Thank you for the review very helpful as I thought it would be keep up the the good work thanks again
GOOOOOD MAAAAAAAAWNIN EVERYONE!!!!…. Still in New England visiting my Son in CT… Thanks for the walk around & info. Keep up the great work Have a day
You bet jack. Good to hear from you this morning!
We could be friends. I too like to take care of everything I own. Money is hard to get, so I don’t waste it. I bought a 2022 CFmoto 600 Touring and I love it. It’s been flawless. Thanks for posting another great video.
Thanks Adam. A truly useful review.
Glad it was helpful!
I have a 2023 Cforce 600 and love it
Force red
Your "lurching" issue is simply due to primary clutch calibration which is causing it to engage at a high rpm for performance acceleration instead of a smoother low rpm which benefits its use as a workhorse. CFMOTO units use CVTECH primary clutches which are built in Canada and are extremely easy and inexpensive to calibrate for a much smoother engagement.
Great videos and channel. I also have a '22 Uforce 1000 with the full doors like you. Don't know if you know but the upper half of the doors can be removed to allow for more air flow. I agree, it gets a bit warm to say the least in the cab. I do have the CFMoto full glass windshield that has the vents in it. Doesn't help much if slow moving. Also, do you care for the passenger side mirror placement? Can you see out of it at all? I had trouble with mine with the doors on. I actually relocated them both to the doors. If you take the upper inside panel of the door off, you can see where there is welded in nuts that can be used for the mirrors. Tricky part is lining up the outside skin to drill. I also designed and 3D printed a tapered spacer to fill the void between the door frame and outer skin so bolting the mirrors on wouldn't buckle the skin.
The doors make the heat in the cab worse but even with them off the passenger side on mine gets too hot to go for a very long ride. I started taking the rear inner fenders off of mine in the summer to let some of the heat out. It's only a couple bolts and plastic push pins on each side
I bought a UForce 600 last fall after seeing you get your 1000. I kept it until this spring and then moved up to the 1000. The 600 was great and better than the 1000 in some ways but it was a little noisy with the single cylinder engine. A few comments on what you've talked about on the 1000. You're bang on with all the dislikes. They are real and unfortunate but not deal breakers. 1. Get a clutch kit. Seriously. Big difference. I went with RNG Performance. There are others out there but at the end of the day they are just weights and a spring (for the entry level primary kit). Super easy to install and they really do make a difference. 2. Use work mode. Night and day difference in power. I'm the opposite of you. I always use work mode. I put it in normal is my wife is using it or someone who is not familiar with the machine. 3. Definitely switch to a flip up windshield. I went with the Super ATV flip up. It makes all the difference to even be able to open it on the first notch and for driving slowly on the trails on property having it wide open lets the air in that you need. Mine only has the half doors and even it gets warm with the windshield down. You really can't beat the value for what you get with CFMOTO. I have a friend that has a Can-Am Defender. It's the factory cab model with all the bells and whistles but to buy it new it's probably $35,000-$40,000 (Canadian) vs. about $21,000-$22,000 for mine with the aftermarket windshields, front and rear bumpers and rock sliders. Dave
This is a great comment with lots of additional information. Thanks for sharing
Everything you said about the Uforce 1000 is exactly the same for mine.
Most OHV's, you put the key/switch to on, but don't start. Wait for the fuel pump to finish priming. You can hear it priming for a couple seconds. Then start.
AWESOME! THANKS!.... AGREE TAKE CARE OF THINGS!
Thanks for sharing!
Love my CForce 600T. Like you say great price for the product and good running machine
Have virtually identical Uforce 1000 in Australia. Except CFMoto ship it with a flip up glass windscreen with wiper. Agree with what you say about the side windows providing insufficient cooling. Fortunately the flip up windscreen in the cracked open position provides plenty of cooling air when driving. So yeah I can recommend a flip up if it has a intermediate position where can be secured open a few inches at the bottom edge.
I have the UFORCE 600 and have the same issue with the hurky jerky take off especially reverse with a trailer otherwise very happy with the machine. Looks good drives nice over all and definitely a more manageable price point. Would buy again.
Good stuff I just got a touring 600 will be looking at the side by side with the snow blower...
I have the same machines (my uforce is the 600 though) and totally agree with everything you have said here. The jumpy action on takeoff seems to get a little better with mileage, but you're right that it is there and some may not be expecting it. I am sooooo glad I did my research and didn't pay more for the popular brands. My buddy with a 'north star' version is really jealous of mine 😂. A+ video!
The atvs have the jumpy action as well, did you find a fix?
@@danlux4954 no, I just got used to it. I know there are aftermarket clutch parts that supposedly fix it, but I'm not interested in changing anything yet.
Good review Adam. I have the same machine. The jerkyness is aweful I agree. We have gotten used to it unfortunately. We take the upper parts of the door off and have a vented windshield and we still take the windshield off because it gets way too hot in the cab. I’m gonna try the lynch pins on the doors and see how that goes. I live pretty close to you I could always help if you need assistance with it.
On the Uforce 1000 put a sponge behind the gas pedal if you don’t want to spend the money on a upgraded clutch kit.
What's a sponge have to do with clutch engagement? That would be awesome if it was true, however I don't think so!
Love my 22cf 600. I have beat the snot out of it through rocky trails, rivers, and making my own trails. Runs well and have had zero issues.
I have a 2018 Uforce 1000 and did the clutch kit from RNG Performance, it did make a noticeable difference in the jerking but NOT a night and day difference. I agree 100% that for an extra $9000 I'll live with the jerking.
Found out about this brand a couple weeks ago. I’ve been looking for a small sxs for awhile. I think I’m going to go with the uforce 600, the only thing I’ve noticed is people either love cf Moto or hate them. There really is no in between. I’m traditionally a Honda man, but their prices are ridiculous, and don’t even get me started with Polaris. I just need something to drive around my 14 acres, and keep up with land and fence maintenance. New subscriber here, thanks for the information.
For the starting issue on the uforce, you need to let the fuel pump prime before you crank it and it will fire right up
The side by side starts at $12,999 now according to their web site. So it’s only gone up $500 from when you purchased yours.
I agree, take care of the equipment. It's an investment and should be treated that way. I live in Montana and I own a 2022 CFORCE 600 Touring and a ZForce 800 Trail and I ride them everywhere. It's a way of life here. Thank you for a great video.
Next year is the side by side. Just got the touring 600 8400 out the door with plow
I love my Uforce 1000XL
Great review!!
Thank you!
Hey Doug help him out on that white switch device!! Duck tape to dash???
I like the color on you atv and side by sides look good
Great review bud thanks for sharing
The duck tape on the white switch is awesome holing it to machine!!!
It works lol
Love my side by side I have C f moto 800 use my hard been very good
Hi Adam, I don’t consider you cheap or even a value shopper. You’re just smart. You understand depreciation and replacement. You have no one to impress but you and your family. I know from past episodes you value maintenance. With Doug close by, you’ll always have help and or a fix. Speaking of fix, I bet CFMOTO or an aftermarket company could get you the stripped part on the right grip. I know you or Doug could do a video on its repair. Given the condition of the CFORCE, it looks new, maybe you could update with a newer more improved model. At any rate you will figure it out. As far as the UFORCE, would Doug have a better way? Maybe a chain drive conversion if it exists? Well, enough of me trying to fix everything, you are in control and know what you need to do and not to do. Hopefully the folks at CFMOTO will see this outdate and reach out to you with some fixes or, offers. All the best to you and all of your family! Merry Christmas Adam! 🎄
Thanks Jim. Definitely some ideas in there to think about
Clutch kit would likely get you that low end you’re looking for on the C Force. Around $150 I think and easy to install
super helpful vid! Thanks.
Iv, both owned Yamaha and Polaris side-by-side and there have been people on other forums complaining about jerky throttle Response as well and the most cases a lot of individuals do used aftermarket clutch kits
Sorry, I thought of one more thing on the troublesome starting on the UFORCE. How about a one way check valve between the tank and lift pump, if it has one. We used to use those on trucks with hard starting. On the section of your cup holder and storage that folds down, I’ve seen nylon bushings that look like a T. One end of the bushing has a nylon washer end formed on it, hence the T. My local Ace hardware has a nice supply. That may take out the play. I’m done, really. 😂
I've seen a few videos of the same CFMoto that you have,& I think that is the one that I'm going to go with.
Starting is a voltage issue, the system is voltage sensitive. With a jump pack assist they start first time with very little cranking. We tested this from learning on the Yamaha YFZ 450's that went to fuel injection. Yes, a better clutch kit should come directly from the factory in every model.
I would recommend a stage 1 clutch kit from MSC ( Main Street cycle) especially running a plow. It really really smooths it up!
Your UForce 1000 does the same thing my 2020 CForce 500 does when starting. I have to turn the key on-off an extra time to get enough fuel for it to start it seems. Like you, it’s not a deal breaker for me, just something I’ve gotten used to having to do. Also, if you don’t get the gear in just right when shifting, it’ll make a horrible grinding noise. I had it to the dealer and they claimed they fixed it, but it’s no different. Still, I’d keep buying CF Moto just because of the value. I got my 2020 500 for about $6k out the door. I’ve gotten used to the “quirks.”
Hard to start grinding noises yep sounds like a great investment to me lol
I don’t think you even read the comment…it’s not hard to start. Please, spend $6,000 more for a lesser machine at your Polaris dealer mudbug, leave the deals to others.
I would check out RNG Performance. They have clutch kits that fix the jerking.
Work mode actually changes throttle response on the machine. So it will smooth out your start and stops. Definitely better for slow riding or snow plowing.
Adam I have the same machine. One big thing I feel you forgot was the fact that the doors can be taken down to half doors. I leave it that way all summer. Also I have the flip up windshield and am a big fan! However I did strip the torx screw once taking the doors down to a half door once. It was covered under warranty. How do you like the front and back bumpers? I’m still on the fence
RNG clutch kits will help with that problem
Amen ❤
You can take just windows out. Easier than taking doors off. Yes I have same with lurching forward or backing up. Got use to it. Price was great compared to all rest.
Clutch engagement is at 2350 rpm you have to treat it like a stall speed converter in a drag car.
The Polaris wouldn’t have gotten stuck in the snow bank. Glad to see you take care of your machines and don’t beat on them. Don’t understand people who trash their equipment.
Yes it would have. Buried up to the frame is buried up to the frame. Doesn’t matter the machine lol
The turning radius on the Uforce on the spec sheet is a lot longer than say a Honda pioneer or Defender...do you notice it or is it a non issue?
By what I am hearing the first 2 minutes of this video, I'm certain you are my long-lost brother. 😄 🤣
What are you running the snow blower off
You treat equipment is a reasonable owner. Most of us can not afford to spent $25k just to tear it up. That said - some do. Good review.
Adam, nice review on both these machines. Think you’ll have any snow this year to warrant using the snowblower?
I hope so. But now I’ve got a plow as well for the smaller snows and I can choose between the tractor pot blower or the Rammy snowblower. Maybe do a comparison between all 3
@@HometownAcres Sounds like some good content! Last year we did that tractor snowblower vs utv snowblower and it was a fun video that got a lot of attention.
Thanks Adam. I have owned honda, polaris, and suzuki. My brother has ridden cf moto's for years and we ride hard. His cf moto's have ran just as good, just as strong and held up just as good as my rides have. If I ever buy another new one it will more then likely be a cf moto. By the way, unless a person has plenty of money value shopping is the way to go. Ive seen people live in a shack that was trash and drive a 40,000 dollar car. How dumb is that.
Couldn’t agree more
When comparing them from the upper class ones do you ruggedly access them across trails and back?
You can get a clutch kit for them and it will help
When you turn the key "on". That is the electric fuel pump. Try waiting for a minute and allow it to stop. That will prime the system and it should then start on the first crank of the starter.
I thought the same thing so I listened again and the pump did turn off.. 14:00 min mark. Actually the key was on during his dash explanation. Then he cycled it again, the fuel pump stopped. No start. Cycled again and it started.. How about a fuel leak down or a weak fuel pump?
So what you’re saying is i need one! Thanks
I'd think the automotive paint would be a negative . They do look like great machines
Change the clutch with after market makes huge difference and it won't mess with warranty... no atv has good head lights. Only thing I think is bad about cfmoto is most dealers are not helpful. If you want anything extra for you cfmoto they are clueless but thank God for the internet because after I bought my 1000 2 up I found lots of helpful people on the internet that walk you through finding anything you need or even working on them and it's to bad they don't work for cfmoto because 99% of them are awesome people that go out of their way to help and all they want is a thank you. My 1000 is an awesome machine and I love it. Touching on one thing you said about the low end torque is do to gearing which I believe is I guess I want to say is a plus because me and my wife have put a lot of road hours on ours and I can run our 2 up at 55mph and it doesn't bother it a bit which I couldn't do that with my polaris or my brute force 750 so kinda used to if I need low end torque I just use the low range. I watched cfmoto for 6 years before buying and I'll say I think I made the right choice and just love this machine. So hands down it was by all means the best bang for the bucks and would do it again. The big 4 better come to their senses because cfmoto is going to give them a run for their money. Great review you did and thanks for taking the time to do it and being truthful. No machine out there is perfect but when you know the down side going in it sure helps to make your mind up going in. It's guys like you the helped me make my decision so my hats off to all the people out there that take the time to do stuff like this... again thanks for the honest review.
I agree. I have UForce 1000XL. Jerky start. I need to put the after market 1st stage clutch kit in. This is supposed to solve the issue. I don’t understand why CFMoto doesn’t fix this as a free recall. It is definitely a design flaw.
Probably because they're a smaller company, it'd be an expensive recall, and ultimately it doesn't affect the reliability or the usability of the machine. Maybe they'll engineer the change into future models.
I bought a cf moto 600 touring 2024 40 day ago and has been seating in my garage for the past 3 weeks with a fuse 15 amp signal B blowing every time I turn the key and my next appointment to get it service is mid April 😢
Does it Have a limited slip rear differential I’m curious can you use it on your lawn without tearing it up?
Where did you purchase the two vehicles ?
Watch the whole video
You can take just the top half of the door off. Does not look too bad to do.
I'm intrigued in the cfmoto sxs, I have a Polaris 800 Ranger and want to update, and the price of a new Ranger is ridiculous especially if you look at the 1500 but resale value on Chinese equipment is questionable.
I think the resale on those new Ranger 1500’s is going to be horrible. They’re $40-45k new. You’re not gonna get anywhere close to that once you drive it off the lot let alone 2, 5 or 10 years down the road
@@HometownAcres 66K Canadian peso after tax for me,(13% sales tax here) that's more than I paid for my 2017 Lariat F150
Sounds like you need a couple RNG clutch kits. Also, your starting issue is most likely a weak fuel pump due to a stopped up sock filter
It’s done it since it was new
Try turning key on 2 or 3 times then try starting
Polaris ranger 1000 premium roof and mirror no winch $15,899 before taxes
Adam, I not sure if I understood your meaning at the 14:00 min. mark. I'm a back yard mechanic (not a pro) but the noise you hear is the fuel pump priming the system/injectors. Maybe the fuel pump is a little weak. IMHO. Did I miss the amount of miles on the quad? Merry Christmas! A Savior is born!
Does anyone else have a problem with the uforce not starting? Is that a thing with these?
Does it hsve a heater?
Love my '21 U-Force 1000. That being said I did have to install a MSC Stock Tire Clutch kit (Helped the Jerky Takeoff). I also went for a lower cost DIY Rough-Country M1 shock setup that helped the ride out immensely (Writeup on CF Moto Forum). I 'gotta say I am impressed so far!
Nice video. how old is Mr. Anderson? I just bought a 400. And He looks like he is enjoying that ATV.
You make a video of your atv trailer for firewood in the wood
Those factory cfmoto doors you can take the top half completely off in summer. As for the starting situation you should listen for the fuel pump to prime which coensides with the gauge cluster showing all the vehicle details then crank it. It will start first try every time. Every utv is this way now with FI even polaris, Can Am etc. I have the same 22 model uforce and the dealer told me this and he was right, tried it on a friends ranger 1000 and a kawasaki, and honda talon, he was right. Your dealer should have told you.
Yes you can remove the upper half of the doors in summer and I am sure OP knows this. It is a PITA do do so though. You really need to remove them to halve them, at which point you could just leave them off. When you take the top portion off you also have to remove the entire door seal for the bottom as well and then replace it with a shorter length on bottom half. I agree with what you say about the fuel pump - disciplin your self to wait until its cycle is complete and the cluster comes up. If it fails to start wait for the pump to run again & generally starts fine.
I have a Massimo T-Boss 550, and even though it’s small and underpowered it works perfectly for me around my 3 acres. I use it to haul brush and wood and plow my driveway up here in upstate New York. I use it for work and really not for play. It was a way better option than buying a Ranger or Commander.