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When the old guy said "it's not a belief it's a fact" Everybody was like:👁👄👁
it is a fact tho
@@jaimesalazar4759 nonnononononon
It kinda is a fact
Santiago Gil citation needed
♡︎ 𝗆𝗂𝖺 𝗆𝗈𝗌𝖺 ♥︎ Hi, I’ll pray for you. 😊
Old man: God is real Atheist: Well, personally I think... Old man: *I have spoken*
Elias IA The atheists weren’t chill either tho
@@alncrts4936 everyone was speaking from both perspectives. The old man though was very defensive and argumentative.
I don’t agree completely BUT in the Bible it states to scream it from the mountain tops and just let everyone know. Spread the word about God. So... I get it. I understand him in that way.
@ルカ it's ok to think it's facts, I mean you either believe in God or you don't. But he doesn't want to listen to others is all
Cue mandalor theme
Can't believe they brought Benjamin Franklin back to life for this one
Omfg I thought I was the only one who thought he looks like Benjamin Franklin 😭😭
Bro this guy looks like he has burned at least one witch at the stake
Ben Franklin was agnostic
@@acfkelly6291 based Ben Franklin
@@iangochenour158 I sont know much about past presidents beliefs so I'm not going to argue but why did you quote "your wrong"
Old man: "i'm just giving facts" Other ppl: 👁️👄👁️
@Creative Like how you hate the truth of the fact that your god is the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
he made me cringe sm
@@Isabstoppoppingbloons The flying spaghetti monster doesn't judge my child, eat the pasta, you will see the truth.
He was right about that though. Atheism is the disbelief in god while agnosticism is stating "we don't know" or "there could potentially be a god". I'm all for atheism I'm one myself, but the lady was objectively wrong there it wasn't a matter of belief but a matter of the definitions of words. when that lady said "Atheism doesn't deny that god could exist" she was patently incorrect.
@@Isabstoppoppingbloons The truth, is drenched in marinara 🍝
Old man: "God is real, it's a fact" *Atheist rate goes down to 0*
God and fact never go together
Mayra Martinez Except for when God is Thor
@@TabooGroundhog Or Kratos
I love your profile name and pic it's amazing
@@mayramiranda5854 Hmn! Really?
Old man - talks Everyone - 😐
Its not a view its fact. Dont call yourself something and not know what the definition is. The old guy was right in calling her out and for someone on a committee for Atheist you should know the difference..
What is a fact?
Night NDay Atheism is the lack of belief of a higher power, that is a fact. Agnosticism is the belief that there may or may not be a god. If you don't believe in a Flying Spaghetti Monster you aren't saying that you believe there might not be one, but you see zero evidence for it and thus do not conclude it to be real. Atheism is the same, most atheists acknowledge that they may be wrong, but there is zero evidence and thus they have no belief in a god.
Agreed. I didn't know what he was referring to.
that guy is literally squidward
The dead silence after “it’s not a belief it’s a fact” spoke louder than anything they could have said
They where looking at him like he was crazy 😭🤚
Yeah but why didn’t the other Christians not say they agree? It’s giving lukewarm
@@melaniemars155because it’s not a fact and can’t be backed with objective evidence
@@melaniemars155they’re called “believers “ for a reason
It was the wisest choice on their end, because had they tried to rebut him they would have been exposed as the fools they are. But by choosing to remain silent, they don't expose their own stupidity... AND many uninformed viewers interpret silence as an actual rebuttal.
I think it’s impossible that a Christian has never once doubted higher power, I am a 100% Christian, and in my life I have had doubts. there’s moments when a Christian has had those doubts.
You have to start somewhere. I think that most people have to research and learn different religions before they can officially say "I'm all for it!" Or "I'm all against it!" And like you, I'm also Christian and I've also had my doubts in the past.
I've never had doubts. But I think we all struggle with the idea that so many people will probably go to hell. Especially if people we care about are not on the right path.
@@prod.deathwish Um, that's why we said we "used" to have our doubts. No need to bring another fellow Christian down.
@@cpiep you are a Protestant right?
Yeah dude honestly, I’ve definitely had mines, but I’ve done my research and now I can say I’m Baptist and I’ll never question my faith. Just some people and their pov don’t really sit with me, and would not too often have me questioning my faith, but if you can’t even prove morality or how the Big Bang was created than I can’t throw away my faith from what their opinions based on
The atheist lady wearing purple and the asian christian guy are the most open and tolerant ones here
violentroll, I agree, the others don’t really want to listen, they just want to argue, but the purple shirt women kind of laughed sometimes which kind of annoyed me sometimes.
Well, the Asian Christian guy was atheist only a short while before this video...
@@gaminglegend what does that have to do with it?
@@menchacism5327 He can kinda see both sides
@@menchacism5327 he can see both sides of the point sir
That old man came to preach, not have a discussion.
LMAKSHDJAJ
Yoo same last name as me
First Impression We have closed minds (being a conservative Christian) because we don’t need to be influenced by society (this world). We are called to be apart of it. We don’t “aggressively” force our religion.. we tell it as it is. There’s a reason why other religions don’t spread their beliefs... because those are just BELIEFS. We Christians know our religion is the truth. We spread the gospel in urgency because those who are unbelievers are ignorant on the subject and need to know about God before it’s too late.
@@radachelkollie4048 thats literally what all the other religions say. What makes yours any different?
First Impression It’s honestly my truth. I’m not simple minded. I just believe what God says. Period. You ty tying to tell me other wise is not going to change my views/ mindset.
After he said "I'm just giving facts", that woman's face is how i felt this entire video.
I'm a theist, and yet I have to agree.
He was explaining the definition of atheist as it contradicted her beliefs. She is agnostic by definition
@@jakesabean No, her definition of atheism is the correct one. She could be an agnostic atheist. His definition is another type of atheism (I forgot what it's called). The point is that atheism encompasses both types.
@@jakesabean it is still atheism
@@bozabati3984 incorrect
Every time that old man opens his mouth the conversation goes stale😭
Many entitled and "mr. Moral"christians are present in the philippines. Hate them. They think what they believe should be the standard.
Yes it goes down hill like a thermometer 😂😂
the other christians didnt seem as studied in scripture as he did tho (in my opinion)
@@jennies.herrera7144 So? He was still the most ignorant person in the room.
@@roems6396 no his response to the questions were exactly how the Bible teaches you. Down to the point, everyone has their own beliefs and they didn’t like what how his belief is written
That old man annoyed me so much. If you want someone to listen to you, you need to listen to them as well.
I agree with you so much! I also love your channel!
Yes
That’s what I’m saying
Cinnamon The Cat not facts, agnostics claim neither disbelief nor belief in god, she claimed disbelief in god making her by definition an atheist.
Cinnamon The Cat he said quote “an agnostic believes in the supernatural it just doesn’t believe in god.” that’s incorrect. he does not know the true definition. agnostic people don’t deny or believe in the existence of god. atheists lack belief or do not believe in god. so no he does not know the true definition. also anybody can write a book.
Old dude: *talks* Mostly everyone: 😐
Na everyone: 🤨
More like: 😖
Christian religion thinks so and against humans.
@Justin Gary God bless you I know he has a special place in heaven just for people like You.May the unholy see the error of their ways and turn to a life of Christianity.🙏
haha
“an agnostic is someone who believes” you have defied the definition of agnosticism in so many ways
😂 fr
It’s the exact opposite lol
Exactly she literally use the definition of an agnostic then got mad when the guy called her out on it lol
@@prod.deathwish lol fr
Exactly lol
The old guy is the embodiment of "old" age. He's so engrained in his ideologies and opinions that if something shook his perspective it would diminish or destroy his life and everything he stands for. It's hard to be open minded when you are afraid to die knowing your wrong/ideas aren't important.
That’s true, I can only hope to work to become more open-minded, even in old age in the far future. But what you said makes sense for the majority of people.
Ad hominem aren’t refutations.
Never mind I just finished the last quarter of the video yeah he’s pretty much wrong. Don’t force Christianity nor atheism on anyone
Soon the world will end. Then everybody will know
@@Ertto54 by soon you mean in the next million years
That Asian guy is so awesome, he’s not stubborn about what he believes and is willing to listen to the other side whether he likes it or not.
Lub Tearts the old guy was better you only like the Asian guy because he was siding with the aethiests for some topics
Gh Ydghg lol
Gh Ydghg the Asian guy was hopeless! He's a believer yet it seemed as if he was siding with the athiests. Atleast the old man had a strong belief, faith and passion for his opinions.
Aqeel Hussain n1
Lub Tearts ?
The old guy completely missed the entire point of this. It wasn't to debate and argue, whether or not there is a god, it was to explain their perspectives and ideas.
I agree. It was so bad they should have a do over
Why not?
That’s what I was click baited for
Yes, I am a Christian and I admitedly got a little angry. Not only was he being rude, but I was worried that Christians would be stereotyped because of his rude behavior.
No the title says that they are debating truth and belief
Peter was ridiculously respectful I am a atheist but he is the best kind of Christian
I go to Peter's church. A lot of us are like that which is what I love about our community. The way Jeremy spoke seem very Evangelical Christian while Peter's was more in line with traditional Protestant Christian.
Yeah you like him because there's 0 conviction
@@kendricklamar56 He seemed firmly held in his beliefs he just wasn’t belligerent about it, he was tactful.
watch haitham talaat videos
he's not the "best" kind of christian because there is no "best" christian because everyone is inherently sinful
When he said “ it’s not a belief it’s a fact” I internally died
I can't see why they didn't immediately get him to define 'fact', because he was clearly speaking a different language to everyone else.
@@nikipedia2818 agreed
He is
@@m3m437 well I mean everyone has a belief and u can stand by that belief and still think that it isn’t a fact but a belief
@@m3m437 yes absolutely you can value others beliefs while still being positive about your own
Old man: DING DONG YOU"RE OPINON IS WRONG
Lol
opinion*
*your
alannacrystal you’re*
@@eeeeee7389 you're means you are, your is correct.
I don't think that old man wanted to find a middle ground....it seemed to me he wanted to convince everyone else that he was right.
N. Lopez but he wrote two books where he gives the whole history of the Earth.
Fortricity Christianity is the real religion.
what do you think is more accurate? Mathematics or Christianity revelation?
@@hmc.yiyelzedekalphametamor550 They are probably published by a christian publishing company. I would actually like to take a look at them to see how he conducted his findings and whether it is just theories.
but if they are a hundred and fifty pages each oh, it's likely more like a study guide which you have to go check in to see if there's even any connection between one event and the next. herein we find the outlandish philosophies. then again, being the Christian that he seems to be, it is likely an account from Genesis to the Roman Empire to the British Empire to today. with a few maps and names of historical and foreign countries.
For me as an atheist, I have lots of very religious Muslim friends. Sometimes we question each other’s beliefs or lack of. Questioning religions should be normalized as long as it is respectful.
It should, I wish we could all find common ground
I agree, it makes my beliefs even stronger and tests my faith.
That old guy is so toxic it’s actually hilarious. I love the absolutely horrid energy he brought!
pure comedy lmaooo
"It's not a belief it's a fact" *long silence*
y u sad lmaoooooo
Fact is not something u believe in by a bible that written by human
Seth RoS Which was influenced by God
supposedly was*
Why would God have a gender? Only a human would give something a gender like their car, their gun(s) and their imaginary friend. That's like... A funny giveaway TO ME ... Just to me.. it's funny.
"I'm an atheist" Old man: "NO YOU ARE NOT"
I am real Nope
Religions create a lots of jobs. Religions minimize jobless.
@@alanmoon636 nobody said having a religion is bad to the world or that we shouldn't have religion in our world. As atheists, some can view belief very objectively, without getting offended when someone has different beliefs.
@@viviana9725 religion contribute jobs
@@alanmoon636 did I say anything different?
wether you are religious or not i think we can all agree the old guy was obnoxious
rude
@@yuichirohanma10 true
Dude was the definition of nice on outside but if you disagree with him he goes full on jerk mode
@@angryboi595 He wasn't even that nice.
He was right though the lady used the wrong definition of atheism she used the definition of a agnostic
the old man is a writer because nobody wants to hear him talk and go on and on and on... so he just writes it all into a book
I want to hear him talk. So your statement is false, and don’t speak for me.
@@acemxe8472 whatever ur ideas are on his thoughts the way he presented his info and attacked the others was not kind.
@@acemxe8472 plus she is just stating her opinion on the matter so chill
@@daytondog8940 And she said “nobody wants to hear him talk....”. So she is talking about more than just her opinion and everyone else’s as well.
@@acemxe8472 and do you really care enough about a simple sentence to have an argument?
If I were to debate with a Christian, I would want to debate with someone like the Asian man. Do you wanna know why? The old man said he’s never doubted god, meaning he was presumably raised Christian. The Asian man said he used to hate Christians and then chose to become one. The old man was presented with the idea of God when he was young and impressionable, and Christianity was introduced as fact immediately. He has devoted his whole life to God, and he is stubborn about his ways because he doesn’t want to consider that his entire life could have been a lie. The Asian man chose faith. God was presented to him as a choice, and he chose to believe. He, at one point, had to contemplate whether or not he believed, and had a logical reason to decide to believe. God was not shoved down his throat. People like the Asian man will be able to give you an actual reason that they think is enough to prove that God exists. People like the old man have never contemplated why they think God exists- He was shoved down their throat- so they won’t be able to give you proof for they have none. That is why this old man is simply screaming at people and forcing them to accept god as truth without giving any proof.
Brynn Rumfallo it doesn't mean he was raised Christian because he doesnt doupt, Iv been raised Christian my whole life and I doupt more than l like to admit.
Brynn Rumfallo lol his name is Peter
I love this comment but ffs man call the guy by his first name lol
Katelin ussery By the way, it is spelt doubt. :)
Brynn Rumfallo well said Brynn.... are you the real Brynn from dance moms?
Benjamin Franklin gotta chill tf out
nice, girl. we could all learn a thing or two from Uncle Ben.
He’s rolling over in his grave because of that comparison.
Madie want to see the facts?
are you holding onto your britches?
Gold!!!
The old guy was so ignorant and disrespectful😟 Like damn, you’re there to start a conversation, not force your beliefs onto others. He is the perfect example of why i feel uncomfortable around most Christians.
how is he forcing a beilef
That's something else making u feel like he's forcing it on to you ....
These are just random people on the street, from both sides, most Christians that are really working on themselves, are loving and non judgemental. It’s not about perfection, it’s about working on yourself each day
Yep
@@casperr253 ??!!
I like how no one takes the old dude serious
Maybe coz everyone knows that he's from a different era where atheism was not openly discussed like it is today.
@@user-vj9hb3gy6d 😂
Seriously*
He's clearly not there to hear anybody else's perspective, just to "inform" everybody 😂
it's awkward because everyone in that room hated the old guy 😂
Jesse Ml I hated him too lol
His voice is so annoying 💀
True! But he was wise to back off after he himself was getting pretty offended; he is a lot more educated than the others, anyhow.
Yes hahaa
Ryan Ramsay she is saying it was wise for him to back off, which I totally agree, but seeing the way he acts on the comment section, he is definitely NOT more educated than the rest
My aspiration is to be as respectful as that Asian man. He was respectful of others opinions and still stood by his. What an amazing man.
Aspire to be respectful? Isn’t that a choice? Admit it u just want dat Asian dik, this is me choosing to be respectful
John Doe it's hard to be respectful to someone who does not share the same opinion as you so yes it is a choice but it can be difficult to choose that option when faced with conflict. (:
The two young Christians were respectful but weak in evangelizing or in defending the faith with apologetics.
Aniston Grace I think why he can do that because he once had in that situation " religion journey situation" that made him atheist for a while then back again in Christian faith
John michael Meow?
Atheist: I am an Ath- Old Man: YOURE WRONG! I SAY YOURE WRONG!
What if she is wrong ? What's your point dude
She is wrong by the way 😂
@@jakesabean plus he was still rude
@@kingbear7590 I will not defend the man’s attitude 😂
@@jakesabean ofc not
I love their compliments at the end. Very specific and heart warming. These are lovely people. The old guy just needs to work on his listening and communication skills.
That old guy is the definition of a person that can't have a healthy debate because they believe that their BELIEFS are 100% factual and anyone who disagrees is wrong. What a farce. The other two Christians and the Atheists were engaging in an inspiring debate while he just had to ruin everything with his talking points. Edit: woah honestly expected this to get lost in a sea of comments. Thx :-)
That's not true, she actually said she can't claim God doesn't exist...
He is the definition of fanaticism
i think that's part of the Christian faith because it's pushed that absolute faith is the goal and without it then you're not christian
I mean that's great and all, and I respect that, but that gives no one the right to be an asshole to someone who doesn't agree/believe in that that. It just ruins understanding.
she really wasn't. I'd respond with a longer comment, but I don't feel like debating with someone whose name is about cream in your holes. :)
As an atheist I have such respect for the Christian guy in the plaid shirt, he was compassionate and was actually listening instead of interrogating the other people
Skylar Betts finally someone who doesn't fucks christains
JMTeen13 Munoz Christians*
Skylar Betts Thanks, not all of us are like Jeremy
Being a Catholic in all my 17 years of life, I've been taught scripture and tradition to the point where it's all just common knowledge and habit for me and it has become my ultimate truth. However, I'm also aware that this isn't everyone's truth and the things that my faith believes in and has been teaching for years isn't accepted as factual by many. Peter, to me, was very relatable and a good example of how a conversation about faith and belief (which is one of the touchiest topics in my opinion) should be approached and handled. He never imposed his beliefs on the other participants and opted to just listen and politely raise some of his inputs and opinions during the discussion. James on the other hand, was very passionate about Christianity which really isn't a bad thing in the slightest. In fact, it's great that he's so proud of his beliefs but how he interjected people and practically shoved his personal truths in the faces of the non believers was incredibly disrespectful. It's important to be true to your own faith but it's also important to respect other people's beliefs and be open minded enough to accept that not everyone shares your truths and understands things the way you do.
S K while I understand what you mean when you say different people's truths, there is only one correct ultimate truth. The problem for everybody is their confidence in their conclusions. The religious position about deities isn't supported by the evidence but is continually thrust forward like it's a given. Overly confident conclusions without evidence coming down the tubes over the years do not a god prove. Atheism requires fewer assumptions about knowable reality. I agree with your analysis of how each christian conversed.
"Pineapple belongs on pizza" The most controversial question before people of all walks of life.
Jeremy is such a bad representative for Christianity.
@Dumisani Nkosi does what?
@Dumisani Nkosi In love. Which, I don't see much of from him.
Why cause he's blunt and doesn't not Suger coating the (facts)
@@MRWattsonclips Cause there's a right and wrong way to share the gospel, and he's doing it the wrong way. I see too much flesh and not enough Jesus from him.
Actually, he represents almost all religions. Extreme arrogants, extreme incompetence, extreme narcissism. He'd fit right in with the Taliban or the Catholic priests.
I want to see this done again with teenage christians and athiests
YES
Y e s
Boys let's get this to happen
Agreed
Perfect
When old man said "its not a belief its a fact" I knew there would only be tension from now on.
My neighbor said that today.😅 I said "You're free to believe what you want" and she says "no, I KNOW it to be the truth"
it is true, eventually everyone will find out!
@@XxANGELTEARxX8 you can only believe that it’s true but you don’t truly know.
@@user-wy1ys8xf6l yep we only have our faith until that day
@@XxANGELTEARxX8 It is not a fact until you have proof. It may be true to you but until you have evidence, it is not a fact!
I'd love to see this topic revisited now that they've gotten more comfortable with this series 😊
I like the fact that this comment section isn't toxic... some comment sections on these types of videos are just full of people arguing, I'm glad that this one isn't like that :)
this should be renamed "people with varying beliefs debate a stubborn old man"
I'm a christian and he makes all Christian's look bad. I wont force my beliefs on anybody.
Janina Camp he had some good points, but I think he tried to force them into the conversation.
Amira he deleted his comments did he say something racist
True af....and it's really sad that people like them exist
Amira wow that’s horrible why would someone say a whole country is cancer
I read the comments before watching the video - now I can’t wait to see the old guy
Lol i did the exact same thing
Eve907 same 😂🤪
Same here x)
Yeah, reading the comments give me an idea about how worthwhile is the video
Omg same
It wouldn’t cost millions for a human to make another human. Clearly he never got the “talk”
Lol my boy Benjamin Franklin never heard of the 'birds and the bees'
Those were some soft-balled questions.
That old dude needs to chill out when everyone else is being open minded
Yeah. As a christian that dude bugged me the whole video. I loved the other guy saying that he disagreed with his argumentativeness.
Also being a Christian, I didn't like how he was making the Christian faith appear. We're not all like that. But I think for older people it's more difficult to be open to the changes that the world has gone through in the past half a century or more because it's a completely different world from what it used to be and they don't feel as though that's right. For example, my grandfather is pretty racist, sometimes without meaning to be, because that used to be okay in society and now it's not. I'm not sure if it's fair of us to ask older people to conform to new societal standards and be perfectly okay with that
Well I understand this guy has studied and he has researched his points of views but that lone doesn't validate his ignorance to someone else's views.
Freaken whites convincing these Chinas and they havw done it well.
Mike C 😂😂😂
Me: breathes Old Christian guy: YOUR WRONG AND THATS A FACT
this is funny , lol
Lmao
💯
You're*
Oml so funny you almost make me pretend to laugh
I'd absolutely be willing to watch the unedited discussions regardless of length.
I love this series! I want MORE subject matters to discuss!
The Asian dude was very respectful allowing them to all speak without confronting their information they were providing even if he disagreed of what they were providing to the group
People that come from one background into another are usually more understanding
Any parent who uses the "you're going to Hell" line is using manipulative tactics to get what *they* want. Period.
That's kind of the idea of hell
@@wachyfanningmost christians who say that have most likely been preached the wrong thing, or there is something seriously messed up with them.
exactly my parents are raising me in a christian home and they have NEVER said that to me
@@softvtae Interesting fact. Hell was never once mentioned in the Bible. I believe that he’ll is just nothingness. You are no more. No more soul. No more self.
I will tell them you are going to hell for telling me I’m going to hell.
I love this channel. its so interesting to hear people share in a safe setting. I wish I could participate in this somehow. its done really well.
This is the funniest shugga hunnie ice tea I've seen on YT in awhile. Every time the older gentleman speaks the look on everyone's face can be made into a meme. It's hilarious.
“God is real, it’s a fact” “We did it boys, Atheism is no more!” Mmmm. A bunch of theists have started a very long argument in the replies. I’m sorry to say that I joined in on the dog fight xD
😂
Everyone’s facial expressions were hilarious after he said that 😂😂😂
Atheism is foolish
@@elias6113 and why is that?
N 17 because they go on and on a bout sience even tho the whole consept of atheism is based on the scientific impossibility that «nothing created everything» as in the big bang.
The old guy didn’t contribute to the discussion. He just spent a lot of time telling other people he was right and they were wrong.
Lol that's what a lot of old people do
cause he saying facts 😂 atheists are mad cause he’s right
Hilary Molina thats exactly what i was saying. They got mad whenever he said something that was actually from the bible. Most the christians there are what I like to call “feel good” christians which bend the words of the bible and leave out some lines to fit their lifestyle. The bible is a strict book and has strict rules.
JakeRGaming and im sure that’s what you and the majority of other christians do. the likeliness of you abiding by everything the bible states is unlikely, and atheists don’t get mad at you for claiming the bible. like the old man, y’all just claim you’re right & other ppl are wrong based on your personal belief.
JakeRGaming yes you are completely right
I love people like Peter. Does not impose his beliefs on everyone and is willing to listen and remain open minded. Unlike a certain somebody who just spews nonsense and declares it as fact without even providing any sort of evidence to back his claims. Damn, this one frustrated me!
Ikr, Peter is the kind of person that has friends of many different religions and never makes it a problem/argument Also yea that old guy was annoying af...
Proud to be an exmuslim atheist from Pakistan I believe that no religion is greater than humanity.
"I believe that no religion is greater than humanity". This is the greatest quote I've ever come across. William, I don't know how u came to the realization of this, but what I knw for sure is, u're gonna have a really smooth life. Cheers brother🥂
Damn! Stay safe.
I love the young guy he’s understanding
Michaela Suorsa I read it as the "old guy" and almost flipped out
He has an accepting warmth to him. He’s what I grew up thinking of as a good Christian, he aims to be kind and open and do better.
I am along the same lines as him.. I have struggled with faith but I also believe its also important to be open to others points of view. I am not God so I don't know what ultimately is or isn't.
The old guy needs to chill though
@@camille19691 I liked the old man though, he was a barrel of laughs. Though I agree it might be rude to disrupt discussion for a comedy break.
Everyone in the comments: We need more Christians like "That Asian Guy", what an amazing human. Also everyone: Unable to remember that his name is Peter.
To be fair, half of the comments are calling the old guy, old guy, and not by his name either lol
@@DaoWoW That is fair. But most people also hated him, so they didn't want to remember his name.
Athiest can't remember names ,. They can't even remember how they here
@@kojakbraddy2338 Scentists want proof. Believers of god have faith. You can't prove something if it's not accessible. I personally believe in god. But giving scientists the benefit of the doubt is correct. We can't prove it. There's no physical evidence of God's existence. We have a choice in almost everything. We create as we are.
@@45zombiemaniac there's evidence that god exist , you gotta think , we didn't create our selves , Galaxy didn't create it's self , every thing has a pattern , even before we were created , darkness it's self was created , every thing around us was put here with its own design , that's why god says have faith , and one day those with faith will get to see him , those with out faith will be begging to find death it's self ,
the old christian guy is literally a boomer, completely entitled and arrogant, the atheist lady in purple and the younger christian guy is the most tolerant and open minded people there
You're attacking him b/c of his age...how intolerant is that?
@@RS54321 Boomer is a mentality, not an age thing
As a Christian, I sincerely apologize about the elderly gentleman
how tf are you a christian in 2023
@@jarodhiggsdude just let people belive in what they want to believe in
@@Courierman6 most people dont even believe in it tho its just what is normal so they follow it
@@Courierman6 thank you
Didnt ask dont care
I'm a Christian but that man who kept cutting people off is annoying. Great representation of us dude
As an atheist, I'm glad to say all the Christians I've met are like the Asian guy.
I know, embarrassing, right?
Same, I hate how any sort of group is stereotyped by the most vocal people in it or the worst people in it.
@@Noone-zo3tu Atheist means you *don’t* believe in a God/Jesus
We don’t claim that guy, but we claim the Asian guy.
Delusional/Close minded old Christian man and young Open-Minded Christian man. Now we all see the difference of beliefs in terms of age.
What I see is a young Christian guy who doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings with what he believes and an older christian who is just okay with voicing his opinions. Period! For goodness sake the issue was 'who is an atheist' and you calling him delusional because he was saying the RIGHT definition of an atheist doesn't say well about you.
i like the green shirt lady and the guy with the checkered shirt because they were both respectful and open to conversation which they were there for rather than what the old guy was doing which is just yell at everyone. He knew when he signed up for this that people were gonna dissagree with him bc thats the whole point and he should know that this is meant to be a discussion not fighting
Abel Abel I. Atheism don’t believe in a God, that is it. Theism is the beliefen in a god.
It was his turn to talk tho lol 😂 He walked in
@@abelabeli.9389 I hope this is a toll because it's sad to know that there are more are as mislead as this guy. I hope you're not a creationist like he is. Atheist means without belief in gods or god. If you check "None" on the religious section a form, you are an atheist. Agnostic means without knowledge. If you are not making an claiming knowledge on the existence or lack there of of some sort of god, you are agnostic. This is like atheism 101, very fundamental to how atheists label themselves. I understand different people use labels different ways, and words like atheist and agnostic have multiple definitions depending on who is asked. The reason she got so upset at him, is that he was defining labels in ways she disagreed with, and assigning them to her, even though she didn't fit those labels. Essentially, lying about her beliefs, and using definitions not used by atheists themselves.
The start of it all…the best series in Jubilee! I like that the questions are more serious in modern episodes though 👍
"I choose not to be missunderstood" Thats not how anything works
Atheist: breathes Jeremy, raising from the grave: MY NAME IS JEREMY AND IM HERE TO MAKE IT CLEAR
Say say true
I'm Roxxxy Andrews and I'm here to make it clear
Well Guess What Mimi We Did I know you love me baby, that’s why you brought me here
Was the bitch on season 5
I’m gonna make it right. Give me a sewing challenge and I’ll get you watchu like.
old man: “God is real, it’s a fact” *all atheist found dead*
Hahaaha
Bruuuhhhh 😂 😂 😂 😂
@Pretty little thing subliminals It's a joke
@Pretty little thing subliminals Oh it's fine lol
It's funny how he says Christianity is a fact. What about other religions? So he thinks that Christianity is the only true religion based on nothing. It's hard to believe that there's people like this in the same time period as scientists
Wow, that's intense. But I love to hear their thoughts and their experiences. Jubilee, you're my current favorite YT Channel. Loving all your contents. I'm so entertained and at the same time learning a lot of things. You guys makes my mind more open. 😍
The fact that he wants to brag about how many books he's written while still not comprehending what the word FACT actually means 🤦🤦🤦 You can't claim something as a fact when you have no evidence to even back your claim up
Clearly you can claim something as a fact when you have no evidence to back your claim up. People do it all the time.
Atheist: *cough* Old man: *GODS NOT DEAD HE’S SURELY ALIVE*
A's Art hE's LiViNg oN tHe InSiDe, RoArInG oN tHe oUtSidE!
@@vlone.8437 GODS nOT dEaD HEs SureLy alIVE
@@navitalksalot4642 hEs LiVinG oN tHe InSiDe RoArInG lIkE a LiOn
Hallelujah😂😂
Amaya Garcia mY gOd'S nOt DeAd hE's SuReLy AlIvE
Even the younger Christians were looking at the old guy like "You are the reason why so many atheists hate us"
I mean, I'll definitely say the dude made himself _way_ too convenient, but...
The more you are like Jesus, the more the world will treat you like they treated Him.
Weird.... Jesus Christ said " love as I have loved you" or something g along those lines. Yet most Christians that I hear, will condemn before love
@@joeweaver1004 Maybe you are not encountering real Christians. :)
@@veritasetlibertas7889 well I'll be honest... I don't even call my self a Christian. I am a follower of GOD though
I wished religious and atheists people can treat each other with respect, kindness and generosity like that.
It's only the Abrahamic religions who seem to have problems with the atheist/non-believers whilst in other religions like Hinduism and Buddhism for example it's fine if you believe in God(s) or not.
@@terminator-from-another-planet That's a pretty big generalisation. Discrimination can be found across many ethnic groups when they're large enough to support mob mentalities. But stereotypically speaking, you would be correct. Buddhists and Hindus do seem generally chill.
Jeremy knew his stuff and people are salty about it for some reason🤔
The old man is the reason why you cant debate religion. People will do nothing but force their views on atheists. I’m religious, but I don’t do the things he did
Some Christian's, such as the old man, don't accept the definition of atheist and/or create their own definition. Luckily these are in the minority, at least in my experience. (A)gnosticism is about knowledge. (A)theism is about belief. That's it. You gain nothing from asserting the other sides position, other than destroying your own strawman.
I mean, I've met atheists with equally closed minds as the old man. I'm an atheist myself and that made me realize that the danger is not ignorant religious people but ignorant atheist people for the future. Though they really didn't hide the fact that the old man most likely is a scam with all of those different fields he's writing about. It's hard enough to be an expert in one area... I guess you need to write about everything in order to be able to fight the entire body of scientific evidence.
Tim Rasmusson AMEN!
Adrian Lind af Hageby I really appreciate your honesty, I think the old fella needs to learn how to give information and not enforce his opinions. Might I ask why or how you are(became) an atheist?
I think he was awesome
It’s funny how the Asian guy cringes every time the old guy speaks 😂
Rightfully so
Yeah he agreed with him but he knew off the bat that is not the way too get through to people like that. He lacks the experience to question the bible so he cannot relate to people who had those problems and work with them. I want to sit down with an evangelical and have a chat with him for a couple hours too see what his true philosophy is down to a tee.
@Justin Gary that’s too long for me lol... do you have a tldr or something?
@Justin Gary it's pretty funny how people like to disregard the evolution when were have bones and tons of other stuff to prove it. it isn't even a argument to say there must be a god because it is impossible that everything is created from nothing and to perfect that it can't be without anyone creating it (btw there are many theories of how something can be created from nothing like in the quantum theory). because this makes the existence of god far more illogical. why would the possibility be higher that a God (a being that is so powerfull he can create everything and any natural laws doesn't mean anything to him, is the definition of the word Perfect and should be by far more complex than the whole Universe) can exist without any reason but humans and other species (that have flaws and needed to go through million of Years of evolution) can't exist without anyone creating them. That doesn't make any sense
as soon as I read this comment I looked at the video and it was a shot of that guy cringing
I'm so glad I'm not religious.
That means there is no purpose of your life!
@@sportsworld662 why does there need to be a purpose? Can’t you just live your life and be happy?
@@sportsworld662 just because they're not religious doesn't mean they don't have purpose. They have dreams and hopes. It's time for you to stop being ignorance.
@@Unknownplsyer I considered him as a brother And want to see him in heaven if I also their. You have to getup from childhood dud, dream and hopes is not the purpose of life it's need of life, Purpose means that why I am her in this world? I was looking for his reply but I think he will be looking a answer or may be searching for the purpose.
@@sportsworld662 Your life must be very sad and pitiful if you need an imaginary sky daddy to have a purpose.
No one is important, we are just an organism flying through space on a giant ball. If the earth disappeared the universe wouldn't notice...
Edgy
The Christians we want: Asian guy The Christians we get: Rip off Ben Franklin
BEN FRANKLIN LMBOOO
He low key looks like the founding fathers of you bought the founding fathers at Walmart
Not all Christians are like that
@@ANGELZBUM I know. I'm actually a Christian too, it's just that most of them are like that and that needs to change.
The old man is the kind of Christian that I want gone. I go to church and I see people like that everywhere 😩
"does pineapple belong on pizza" *Thats deep*
What does that mean? 😂
I actually like that mix
ADude21 truth. Because i love pineapples on pizza but I don’t think that it is only meant to be eaten on a pizza. I can eat it by itself, or eat it in a meal. Try pininyahang manok y’all!!!
ADude21 I agree. They should have stayed on that topic. Imagine the implications if it’s true!
Why is deepdish even considered a pizza just like canadian bacon being considered as bacon
I love that elderly guy❤️, he made me cry😭
The old guy is exactly why I don’t care about religion anymore. I’m not atheist but I’ve just been confused and burnt out with all this with no proof or evidence. Then people like him chime in and try to tell you who you are.
@Barislav No. He’s an example of the type of people who think they’re right about everything because of their faith. Just like all the other Christians, doesn’t respect others opinion’s and forces their own beliefs onto people. Calling them “facts”
@Barislav I said PEOPLE LIKE HIM.
@Barislav well I worded it wrong that’s my whoopsie but my opinion doesn’t change. I don’t care how someone lives their life. Believe what you believe but I just find it wrong to say an opinion is facts just because that’s what you believe. I’ve met people and grew up around many people just like that old guy, you’re right.. I shouldn’t let someone else dictate how I feel but mind you I said I’m confused. Confused because there are so many contradictions that I can’t even make sense of the explanations. Burnt out because of the constant negative things that have happened on Earth over the past 10 years or so.
@Barislav So forgive me if I offended you, I was harsh with my opinion. I’m not gonna disrespect someone who’s standing up for their belief.
Old man: *says anything* Everyone else:😐
As an agnostic atheist I respect Peter aka the Asian guy, as he is very respectful and open minded.
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I wish all Christians were like that. Most these days just preach and force their beliefs on others.
@@Taschip is that just in America or? Because where im from in New Zealand its way different
@@hazzah274 It's big in America and Europe.
@@Taschip racism is bad right? America should make a rule about these obnoxious forcing Christians.
it's interesting to go back and see this first episode compared to newer ones.
5:18 woman in the green is correct. Humans give value to anything they assigned. Life matters depending on the connections and ideas that the people have. People still buy devices knowing it comes from inhumane working conditions but do they stop buying it? No. It’s all subjective. There was slavery with Christian owners.
Christians never owned slaves, thats ignorant.
Can you define Christian?
Atheist: God doesn’t exist. Old man: So you’ve chosen death...
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Spirit World exists. Anyone who has been to funerals of young people KNOW that people are spirit and have souls. Example: Ten year old child gets run over by a drunk driver . At funeral, something extraordinary usually happens. A whirlwind will come down into the funeral home, or the Gathering at the restaurant, or in the Church Basement or Parish Hall. Or, on an overcast black day, a beam of sunlight will come through for 5 minutes at the internment. OR INEXPLICABLY a car will drive by that just happens to have the person's favourite song playing !!! The spiritual world exists. Spirit create matter. God is Spirit, and those who Worship HIM must Worship In Spirit and In Truth. ( The Gospel According to John , Chapter: Verse 4:24 ) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Rita Bailey can you not? Like, you don’t have to say “God exists” just because you think he exists and don’t say “wow, you’re an atheist” cause’ I’m a Christian too but I don’t say God exists whenever I want
Lol he forgets that everybody died and he is the closest one because of his age
Ur profile was everyones faces
Fruity_Cereal3 I mean that’s not the atheist believe. It’s literally the lack of believe in a god not stating in the affirmative there is none. There’s a huge difference
I think they choose the elderly man to show the "Christian stereotype" and had the two other Christians there to show that not all Christians are like that. Low key I felt the same way with the atheists, they had the "atheist sterotype" who talks about all that went wrong in her life and says well "if God existed I would've never went through that" and then the two others who also showed all atheists aren't like that, Just me who noticed that?
kim keiko I don't think the atheist lady was blaming any god for what happened to her, but instead was saying that it didn't make sense for her that a god would punish her for leaving an abusive marriage.
Agree with the comment. Regardless or faith, the elderly man is wrong in a sense that he cannot push information and opinion down someone's throat. Also people cannot blame God for "bad events" if they don't believe. That's faulty reasoning. The best conversation came from the 2 non stereotypical theists and 2 non stereotypical atheist
kim keiko this is very true, I feel as if most videos on KZhead misrepresent both Christians and atheists.
Natalie, it's true but we can only imagine how bad it must have been for her to be that aggressive towards God. One way or another, I feel like she was only trying to explain herself but couldn't realize that no one in that room was against her.
For me the Redhead woman (Nancy) wasn't agressive, more likely salty or bitter. Her life wasn't good and basically she told people how she lost her faith because the events what happened to her (abusive relationship - and her father said that she should have suffer her whole life in that marriage for the sake of Heaven) and the image what she got about God, like God is loving, caring and protecting was totally opposite. There was no room for both statements in her life. But the old man (Jeremy) was freaky. He was like those people who you don't want to talk to in any way, because he doesn't listen, just talks. He didn't care about anyone in that room, he just went there to vomit his opinion and that's it. This kind of people are exist in every culture and every place, and all of them are pain in the a__.
As a Christian the old guy went about this all wrong and i think that Asian guy and girl did great displaying how a Christian should act in an environment like this. The girl in green was a little aggressive to me
We really need an updated version of this with harder questions for both adults and teens.
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Yeah I was excited to watch this because these kinds of conversations are not very common but was very disappointed. The questions were terrible and very little actual discussion was had. I think this episode was awful. They need a redo.
Me:this is about to get serious Guy:pineapple belongs on pizza
😂😂😂😂😂
Burn him by the stake.
I love warm up questions they always lossen up the room.
Virginia Harp yeah that’s the point of them. They ask them on serious topics.
They did the same kinda thing for the pro choice vs pro life, they asked a random question to lighten the mood
The Asian Guy is trying so hard to get Ben Franklin to calm down.
😂😂
Bruh he more knowledgeable and wiser than him
Bon frinklin
LMFAOOOKOKODnjnswfcnis I cant with y'all
🤣🤣🤣
People who believe in evidence and people who don't believe in evidence.
Which one are you talking about?
@@DanTheMan4176atheist:belives in evidence Religius people:dont belive in evidence Hope this helped you understand wich he was referring to
@@COSmicFingers Id say there is evidence for both sides
@@DanTheMan4176the only evidence christians have is a single book which they cannot prove to be accurate
@@DanTheMan4176 i doubt.. religion is more attibuted to wishful thinking.
I love the guy in the plaid shirt, he understands that listening is better than forcing
*clicks on an atheist vs christian debate* me: ooo spicy the first question: *pineapple belongs on pizza*
Doesn't get spicier than that
I'm ur 100th like
Yeah🤣🤣
lmaoo
I don't get the joke?
The Asian guy is such a great conversationalist and seems like a really positive dude to be around
It's the Jesus in him😊
@@MiaB907 ...
The only one i would ever wanna be around with is Jesus for his will is righteous. Do not hang out with people who do not seek the kingdom of God.
@@DarkSide-kj2vs dude
@PiK oh ye... When did jesus said for us to do that... Read it before u say something....
Alternative title: Everyone vs Jeremy
“We’re always learning” but says everything is fact lmao. I can’t.