A complete guide in the explanation of snowboard angles and widths, and how to determine your stance. And how to properly mount both 4-hole and Burton EST Bindings.
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0:00 - Stance Explained
0:21 - Stance Preference
0:43 - Stance Width
2:10 - Stance Angles
4:15 - Mount Bindings
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Anyone feel like they’re going 150mph down a mountain like the first clip… and then you watch yourself on a video and feel like it’s being played at .25x speed? 😂😂😂
Hah yep, same with longboarding.
That's why you've got to ride with style so you look good no matter what speed
Always
me with tricks 😂 I’ll hit a smooth 180 on a side hit or something & feel so badass. go look at the video & I look like an amateur going 2 mph 😭
So true!
Good video and no one looks more credible as a snowboarder than this guy.
Yeeew 🤙🤙
I'm about to buy a snowboard and I had no idea how to adjust the bindings before I saw this video. Thanks a lot mate for sharing Your expertise
Great, now you're set!
How do you not have more subs? Your videos are probably the most informative out of all I have watched… thank you!
Thanks so much! We're working on it, but proud of the community we've already grown
This is the perfect video to jump from beginners snowboarding stands to more advance ones. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
Randomly had tape measure and measured my leg, then compared to my current setup... exactly the same. Can confirm!
Same story!👊👊
So funny how that works
Yeah that was super weird. I ride 21.5 and measured and it was exact 21.5. Kinda creepy
Thanks so much! I just adjusted my dad's old snowboard to my size, and it looks great! Keep up the good work!
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great explainer on stance angles! especially love the reference stances for particular styles of riding :D
Thanks dude, Wanted to make this because I know how confusing it can be
Great recommendations. I have been snowboarding since the '80s and this is a good summary of stances. Wish I had this when I started.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the really informative video! Helped me set up my board perfectly this year.
I'm riding 60-80 days a year for the last 20+ years and I change my stance 15x a year. Helps my knees. I have a baseline that I consider the "best" for my ankles and my knees. But I still change it ALL the time. A little wider is always always ALWAYS better for me. Even though I'm considered short at 5'8". Don't be scared to change your stance. Buy your own screwdriver and take it to the mountain with you, It takes 5mins to do at lunch time. One notch in degrees can make BIG differences in feel, how your edge holds everything. Keep it small and incremental unless you know what you are doing. Another thing that people seem to forget when it comes to bindings is FORWARD LEAN. This makes MASSIVE differences in your edge hold especially your heel edge...... If you have heel judder or want more power in your heel edge add in some forward lean. HUGE HUGE difference in edge hold. If you ride Freestyle I understand why you dont want forward lean, you want your foot to be able to tweak and move for presses and stuff... I get that. BUT if you want to go FAST or ride all mountain forward lean is a MUST... With these two things you end up with like endless combinations to try even in a small stance window. If you cant remember your settings cuz you dont change them often take a picture with you cell phone of your favorite stance. Then go nuts and start trying new shit. It can make you a better rider in a day..... Literally. AND KEEP YOUR BOARD WAXED!
All great tips for everybody
@@SearchofSnowboarding Yeah good video man. I rode a Mega Merc last season and loved how light that board was.... but it kinda bucked around in the spring snow. So I Switched to a Never Summer this season but I'm keeping the mega merc. That board has POP and its so so light. Love that board!
I think this advice/comment deserves its own video!
@@suz4359 there is no wrong and wright angle.
@@suz4359 i d like to go for a shred with you. I have proven many people
You explained stance and everything really good, I do a lot of sports so I got it down fast but if I had no idea where to start, you put me right on track
Sweet, thanks dude!
Great explanation, this is just what I was looking for and more
Awesome! Stay tuned for more videos like this
As a new snowboarder what seasoned athlete.... I appreciate mastery and expertise and you really know your stuff. Thanks for helping me fix my stance!
Right on, happy to help!
I started snowboarding in 1989 and I'm still going now at age 60. My first board had a fixed +45/+0 stance which I later changed to +45/+30. I'm still going that way today. Needs less twisting of legs and body, but of course is one way only.
Right on, keep it going!
By watching all these videos, it seems there are so many varieties of setup combinations. This video was the first I saw to measure the width of stance. Thanks! Will try this out tomorrow
Oh yeah, stance measurement is a major adjustment to know
this was super useful. very short and informative the whole time. perfect, thanks!!
Glad it was helpful!
My wife brought me new snowboard for Christmas & I bought some new bindings, so I’ll need to set/install these soon. Thanks for explaining what it all means!
Glad it was helpful, sounds like you found this video at the perfect time
Appreciate the information. I’m trying to absorb as much Information as I can before I take the first trip on a board in early December. I’ve skied, but never snowboarded, so I’m learning a ton of new stuff.
Hell yeah, you're starting out right as opposed to most people who think they can figure it out on their own. I will say one lesson on the mountain will go a long way for you. Stoked you're getting on board!
Thanks for the info Shane. It’s a reminder for me to play with the stance angles some more.
Yeah I think it's something everyone should mess around with a little more, including myself
That was really well done! I've been riding for almost 30 years now, and I adjust my stance often. Love the Burton channel system for that. Great for a bad knee and constantly changing conditions (and energy levels lol!) Subscribed 🤙
Much appreciated!
super helpful and best explanation I've heard; thanks!
You're very welcome!
Duck foot +12 -12 baby, all day. Freestyle Arbor Camber and for my All terrain board a Capita Mega Mercury with rear at -6 and front at +15
The only video that should be about this topic is your. Huge thanks dude!!!
Than you, appreciate that!
Wow this was the most helpful video honestly. Thank you
Glad it helped you out!
I ride a 163 wide as I'm 6 foot 1. I ride 21 inch stance set back a bit for more powdery days. And my angles are 18 forward and 12 backwards to save my knees. Been riding since 92, and my stance has definitly changed as I've gotten older
Anybody getting older and not riding park anymore, I’d definitely recommend trying out a slightly more narrow stance and also bringing that negative back angle down to zero if you’re still rocking the early 2000’s wide duck. Feels amazing ripping pow turns!
It is nice to adjust your stance for your body over time
Have been thinking I need to do exactly this. Glad to hear it worked for you, im gonna try it
Agreed
Just starting my first ride since 2012. I was just wondering if I should change something.
@@pointtheblame Go out and ride and see if your current stance feels comfortable first
im from iowa and im a newbie.. thanks a ton man i appreciate you!!
You got it, hope you're ripping it up this winter!
Very helpful and great details and videos. Thank you!!!
You're very welcome!
Thanks for the trips bro! Great video!
You bet!
Been snowboarding for 20 years and still found this educational haha. Thanks
Awesome, great to hear!
DUDE! Thank you. Exactly what I needed to know. Setting my unions right meow.
Right on, rip it up!
Great video. Super helpful!
Great video. really well put together. 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you 🙏🏻
Helpful for beginner, thanks 👍👍
Of course! More videos like this coming soon
Very useful information in a concise video. Thank you!
You're very welcome!
You just cleared up so many questions I’ve had about my bindings and stance. Thank you! 🥲
You're welcome, one more thing you should be confident with boarding now
Super helpful tips
Glad it was helpful!
From Texas so I snowboard once a year at most. I'd say I'm on the upper half of intermediate. Park, pow, switch, carve, etc. Started off 15 0, but I found out after a few more trips that I love +12 -12. Going to Steamboat NEXT WEEK. Time to try something new? Loved the vid man, thanks!
Hell yeah thanks dude! Rip it up, Steamboat has been getting great snow recently!
This was the most straightforward video I ever watched yet 😅
I'm glad, my goal with these is to make confusing points understandable
Great explanation. I would add boot size= centering is equal toe and heel overhang, if any. This is one of the most problematic thing I see with newbs. But very informative and done well
Good point, that will probably be in part 2
My man. I agree with you. And those adjustments make such a difference on kinks I have come to notice. I ride Unions (as I’m sure a ton of us do) and I always am curious on what is REALLY centered. The heel cup adjustment on the recent unions is dope. But when I look to see if my boot is centered, it gets tricky because of boot material and curves of boot. For example, the heel of boots almost all slight angle up the heel. I wonder does anyone else slide there heelcup forward to really get true center?
@@INTHEFIELD777 cereal box…. Boot centered not binding
@@INTHEFIELD777 There will be another video I publish explaining more adjustments such as Union's heel cup. It's a little complicated to explain in a reply comment haha
I completely agree. However you get the boots that fit right, so a lot of toe/heel overhang ultimately comes down to binding choice. The problem is that a lot of bindings don’t have that much range of adjustment. If a new rider is looking to even their toe/heel overhang, then their best bet is probably Union bindings. I don’t want to discourage anyone from purchasing bindings from other companies, because they all have their pros and cons, but Union probably has the most amount of binding adjustment on the market.
Very helpful! Also, that mega merc 😍
That's my new baby
Sick video! Thank you brother!
You are totally welcome!
Good job Shane 🤙🏽
Thanks, Jimmy!
wow I really like this video! thanks very informative
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the video!
My pleasure!
I just found the right stance then I saw this video ...and so I measured the distance to my top knee ....and it perfectly just like in the vid !!!! wow !!!!
I know funny right, I had actually never measured my leg and it was the same for me haha
Awesome video ! Thanks so much !
I've been using +15 -15 for 20 years. Freestyle for life!
I'm with ya!
Tanks - 6 Minutes and exactly the info i needed 🏂
Just trying to give you all the info without any fluff
I wish I had seen this video years ago. So many things make sense now. Thank you so much!! This has been an invaluable video!!
Oh thank you, that's great to hear!
Been riding +15 -15 for years until I started riding directionals. Some days I set my stance at +18 +6 & other days I can get super aggressive with +21 +15. I have to say there's a bit of a learning curve for riding possy possy. Technique is a bit different, but the turns are so much fun. It'll be cool if there were more videos on turning techniques for riding possy. :)
i was riding like this my first 6 years, i switch to +21 -12 and for me its the perfect MIX!
a lot of the japanese riders do possy. I been doing +36, +24 the last two years, so fun on those aggressive euro carving turns.
It might be fun if we made a video on totally changing our stances to posi posi
@nichlive this EXACTLY what I ride. I feel it gives me the aggressiveness I need on the mountain.
@@hamedrubio yeah!! and riding switch and landing 180s i felt good too!
thanks bro great video
You got it dawgie!
Great vid helped a lot
No problem 👍
Great video 🤘
Thank you 👊
Man good video thankyou it is very logical
Great vid !
You got it!
Snowboarders from all the World UNITE !!!
That's what we're here for!
Could you do a video on reasons to change your stance? Like what issues or feelings you might have while riding, and what is the corresponding adjustment of the stance to improve the issue?
That's tricky because it involves slightly tweaking your stance to see if it helps with a specific issue. If everything feels comfortable, you shouldn't need to change your stance unless you are curious of what something else might feel like. An issue like too much pressure on your knees might mean that your stance is too wide and/or too angled
awesome video! superhelpful🤩
So glad!
Thanks dude you Rock!
You rock!
Handy. Well played bloke.
Ay you got it
Great video. Now more snowboarding
More shredding coming really soon!
This is a good clip! Nicely done. You could mention two more things: - Centring the boot across the board (equal toe/heel overhang) is wildly important. - Finding the overall angle that works best for you and then keep it (at least roughly) regardless of riding style (Say you ride and love 18°/-6° as an all mountain stance, that's an overall angle of 24°. Now you go carving and want to ride double posi. You should probably start with something that has the 24° overall, like 30°/+6°. 30° on the front foot is absolutely not crazy for a directional setup. It really helps opening up the hips towards the nose, which is very important for hinging forward from the hip to get the torso over the front of the board....). And then there's all that stuff about highback forward lean and rotation.... I love the stance width thing with the lower leg. Been using that method for a long time, and it's mostly quite accurate as a starting point. Depending on pelvis width one can add or subtract a little. Say you're skinny and wear 30" waist pants, you could subtract about 1", while being rather 'wide' in that area you might wanna add an inch... Pelvis width determines how far apart your legs naturally are, and the lower leg equation doesn't factor that in. Anyhow, good stuff!
Trying out the +12 -9 Tomorrow ❤
Sweet!
thank you!
You're welcome!
Yo this is crazy that this is in my recommended. Im Dan from the beach, nice video Shane!
Daniel what up! You gonna be shredding a bunch this year? Stoked you found the channel
@@SearchofSnowboardingIll be out there!
back in the days (1989 😬) they would tell us the stance width corresponds to your shoulder's width. I've been riding like this since! guess I'll have to try your advice 🙂
The info I shared about width in this video ends up corresponding to a stacked shoulder width too, but it ends up being a little wider than shoulders for most people
@Suz Are you really spending your time going through every single word I've written and said to nit pick and tear me down? That's how I talk, "stacked"meaning arranged above. You should spend more time shredding than arguing with people in comments, it will be good for you ✌
@Suz Your best angles are going to be what works best for you. His recommendation is just that, a starting place. 18/6 will still give you toe/heel drag on all but the widest boards. Soft boot carving on your setup may require risers or more forward angles, or both. What stance width and angles allows you to flex, move and stay centered comfortably on your board? What combination of angles and risers keeps you from boot out when carving? Depends on a lot of things.
@Suz Well done for riding on the top sheet of your board, you must look so f'ing cool on the mountain. People must dig you so much that they shower you with many bottles of champagne at the apre ski!
Thanks!
Thank you, my dude!
Super 👍
Wow I never knew this before. I’ve been riding with my bindings at 0-0 for years
Hope it helps get you a little more comfy out there
Oh man, 0 0 will kill your knees if you ride alot. Try doing a squat and open your toe angles up a bit until you see what is comfortable for your body.
I snowboard 33 years already and learned it old school. Still riding old school with my binding angels front 30 and back foot 27 into the same direction. With my hard boots and board this was even 36 and30. 😅
Old school for sure haha! Ride what you know
Why I didnt realize that something was off about the secondhand snowboard with bindings I bought😂😂the left side is angled and the other one is straight AHAHAHAHHAHA. Thanks for doing this kind of video it gives me idea on what adjustments i should do now
Hahah, oh no. Getting it set correctly should help a lot
great video!! i have a burton channel board and union binding, how do set set it up? i'm totally new to doing it myself
On the Union disc there will be two corresponding holes in the center. It should even say "channel" where those holes are too
Can you allow additions to playlists? I'm a new boarder and trying to organize and collect all my fav videos for improving and learning everything about snowboarding. Loved your video and want to add it to the collection!
You can add any video on KZhead to a personal playlist for yourself
I was on PC which I’m usually not and didn’t find the button 😅 thanks for responding!
I would also add forward lean adjustment as well....
Absolutely, that will be in the part 2 of binding adjustment video
What do you think about +24 -9 and +21 -12? I was using this since 2 years and for me its the sweet spot to ride almost everything!
Doesn't matter what I think, as long as it feels good for you. 21, -12 sounds like it would be more comfortable
Thanks man, I didn't think to change the position all the time as you explained, like it. I started snowboarding at +15/-9 and then moved to +21/-9 What is the next step you would recommend for me? And yes, this stance is less comfortable for me in bidirectional ride
If you're trying to mess around to find a more comfortable stance from where you started, I can't really tell you where to go next. If it feels like too much angle on the front foot, dial back a little. If it feels like too little angle on the back foot for switch riding, try another 3 deg
I haven't snowboarded in a while and plan to get back into it. I ride a skateboard goofy but remember riding switch for snowboarding. I think I had a 15 degree angle on both feet.
Start there again when you get back into it and see how it feels
cool shirt!
Classic Jamie Lynn
Great video and the info is top! I wanted to ask something: if you ride a board that is bigger than your normal , should you increase the stance width also for the bindings or keep the same, which should be the measurement of your lower leg?
Thanks! You'd want to keep as similar of a stance as you can
With a Burton EST (channel), it is possible to loosen everything, stand in your board on a carpet, and adjust for comfort / perfect stance. Then carefully step out and tighten the screws. This is why I won't ride anything that forces a compromise.
Yeah never thought of that but that would definitely be a good way to figure it out too
Hi, great vid, just a question, when you are measuring the board to find the holes, where do you hold the tip of the tape measurer, at the other holes?
You measure from the holes in the same position on the other end. So both middle, both one out from middle, both one in from middle, etc.
Nice video! Greeting from Russia
Thank you! Cheers!
I remember having to drill through my 94 joyride to change the stance lol +15 -15 22 is the only stance allowed : )
That's so funny, I was just talking to somebody about that yesterday about back then needing to t-bolt the stance you wanted
Just measured my leg and checked my setup and it's exactly the same.
Nice, it really works, I wasn't lying
So my Burton blunt I have union bindings and at 15 and 15 I was only able to use 3 screws. Does that sometimes happen or the did the tech shop not now what they were doing. It was an old og snowboarder that was a coach for one of the Olympic teams so i figured he knew what he was doing lol.
If the board is older and has a 3-hole diamond pattern, then yes you would only use three holes, but only if you have the proper Burton 3-hole disk. Otherwise if you have a 4X2 patten on your board you should be using 4 holes
I have a question that i may have missed, or didn’t get answered. For the binding adjustments, I always thought the micro adjustments were up and down to help prevent dragging your toe or heel into the snow if you had harder turns. Is it supposed to go side to side, or does the direction of the micro adjustment matter more going left to right (time stamp 5:03)
Good question, You can do either for the union discs, but the binding is usually centered on the width so most people like to have the adjustment side to side.
Some bindings adjust heel and toe drag with a movable heel cup not the baseplate. Some examples include Union, Ride and some models of Bent Metal Binding Works
Depends on the brand of bindings. Burton disks mount with the adjustability side to side. The disk holes are slightly off center. So to move your binding more toe side or heel side, you rotate the disk 180 degrees. Most other brands' disks (like Union, for example) are technically supposed to mount with the adjustability fore/aft (forward/backward toward the nose or tail). So you can make micro adjustments in your stance width. And then you adjust your boot centering side to side by adjusting the bindings' heel cup. That said, you can always just rotate the disk so the holes give you toe/heel adjustability if you want. Won't hurt anything. But those bindings already have heel cup adjustability, so it doesn't really make sense to use the disk for that.
3rd attribute is: Goofy or Regular stance :--D 4th for a carving style rider like me is the putting plates under my bindings to make them higher. I just ordered Palmer Power Link System (PLS) 13mm plates to put on my new board: Lib Tech's Skunk Ape II 170 Ultra Wide. Because it's not quite wide enough for my big feet and carving.
Really, how big are your feet? I've put people with size 15 boots on that board and they can carve fine
@@SearchofSnowboarding It's a combination of big feet (Boot size 46 EUR) and STEEP carving. I've been riding a Burton Factory prime race board with hard boots for 10+ years so I'm used to steep/extreme carves. In those carves the board can be at 90 degree angle i.e. straight up on it's edge. In that situation it's very frustrating to fall out of the carve due to the bindings hitting the slope.
Im always an inch closer to the tail, it helps keep the tail from wondering when you're leaning forward for aggressive carving and floating in powder.
I’d love to see an explanation for high back angle
That will be in the next binding video
Впервые вижу такой метод !!!!
Very interesting! I am considering to try out snowboarding for the first time next year because skiing puts a nasty strain on my knees and hips - I have a misalignment in my legs and joints so the angle between my feet is ~60 degrees when in a resting position. When I'm skiing I have to force my feet to run parallel (obviously), but my legs form an upside down Y shape, the skis run 1 1/2 feet apart from each other and I put more pressure on the inside edges. Not very ideal... Do you think I can adjust your recommended angles for that when I try out snowboarding or does that have a negative impact on the pressure I can put into the board?
Yeah absoultely. I would suggest standing in the bindings on the carpet before going out on snow to see how different adjustments feel for your body
@@SearchofSnowboarding thanks for the helpful and reassuring response, I really appreciate it :-) looking forward to learn how to ride a snowboard!
@@AraniaTwoFer Get after it!
following the reference stance makes sense if your board has a hybrid camber profile or weird flex patterns. in that case, being at ref stance means that your board will perform exactly how it was intended to. problem is if you’re heavy for your height (like me) or very light, ref stance on your board size will not be correct for your body geometry. in conclusion, if you’re not exactly spot on with your BMI, buy a board which is very uniform in flex and camber profile. all hard, all soft, all rocker, all flat, all camber. it’ll be more tweakable and it won’t behave unpredictably
Weight should not affect where your stance is on the board, picking the right size board for your weight is more the issue. Reference stance will help you to determine the proper alignment on a board regardless of rider weight
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I've been riding +15 and 0 since I started. I just got new bindings and set my stance to +15 -15. What can I expect? easier carving? more control?
It will definitely be easier to ride switch, but your original stance will be a little better for carving. Everyone's different so you'll just need to see how the new stance feels with body positioning
I ride +9 -9 but I like the carve, freestyle, and ride switch. Do you think this is a good setup or should I change it up a bit?
It sounds good, but maybe try one more in each direction to see how it feels, like 12, -12
@@SearchofSnowboarding ok thanks man
@@SearchofSnowboarding good advice. 12 -12 is a better spot. Gives your knees enough mobility to push power down using your quads. 15 -15 is too much for most cases as mechanically, your knees are designed to bend at a 90 degree angle relative to your hips. It is a more stable stance but does not allow you to be knee mobile and will stop you from doing jibs, butters, etc
I have a question regarding the first-time trial angle at 3:25; my right foot is my dominant foot. Just to confirm, I only need to flip the bindings to face down and the angle would still be the same right?
Don't know what you mean by 'flipping down', but the front foot should be rotated towards the nose