Zach’s finding the best chronic pain relief products on the internet. Which of these Amazon 5-star products will do the trick and pass today’s pain test? Watch to find out!
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“This is pain I can control.” Warning: It’s easy to cross the line into self-harm territory when you’re just seeking pain relief. If you’re using products like the spike mat or tens, don’t let yourself get too desensitized. If you start feeling anxious because you’re not getting as much relief as you once did, try to reset-focus on the textures of everything you touch, alternate between hot and cold water while showering, walk barefoot in the grass/dirt. Pain relief in and of itself is addictive, especially for chronic pain sufferers, and the desperation to feel that relief can make us do crazy things. Proceed with caution, and take care 💐
I need one of those. Because the way I relieve my pain is just violently scratching my neck till it bleeds and burns. So thanks for this. I’ll keep note of it.
This is important
wow i actually needed to hear this. as someone recovering from self-harm, this means a lot
spike mats are amazing
As someone who used to use s/h as a pain coping mechanism, this is so incredibly important. It's never the answer. Stay safe loves❤
I love how Keith kept asking Zach about his pain, and acknowledging how hard it is for him. "Does this hurt less than the pain you feel?" was a moment we needed to see. I'm glad this is going to become a mini series of sorts.
Agreed, that was weirdly comforting. I feel a little more seen.
That interaction really helped put it in perspective for me. When you've only really experienced pain as an acute or transitory thing, it's hard to even start to wrap your brain around just how impactful chronic pain must be. And then on top of the pain itself, the rest of us just expect you to act like it doesn't exist... I can't imagine.
His silent nod in response *sent me*
@@avclayton5 As someone with several chronic illnesses, I want to say thank you. So many of us wish for this level of understanding from our peers, but most people can’t or won’t even try to understand. Your comment literally moved me to tears. Thank you.
@@DingedDragon That's really sweet, before I heard Zach talk about this in another video I didn't even know what exactly is Chronic pain. I respect everyone that suffers from it so much, it must be so difficult. I feel like we should be taught more about this kind of stuff, 'cause a lot of people are ingnorant to these subjects. Hope you're doing well 🥰
seeing zach who doesn't "look" disabled talk about being disabled and being in pain as someone else who's young and doesn't "look" disabled is very heart warming
i really appreciate is especially since his whole shtick at buzzfeed was just being the fragile looking one but to know there's more behind that is nice because at the end of the day he still "looks" able bodied and the way he speaks about it is a good reminder that not all disabilities are visible
🥄💕🥄💕
I’m in kinda the same position. Like I’m only 21 and have like arthritis and scoliosis and an arrhythmia and nerve damage and like this is heartwarming to know that I’m not like the only young person who is relatively “healthy” with chronic pain conditions
Me too I'm only 20 and was recently diagnosed with arthritis
Same. As someone who is "too young to be disabled "
I just love Keith here. "This isn't your level yet? Give me more!" His willingness to suffer to feel some of what Zack feels is incredible. We all need friends like that.
Yes!!! I love Keith, he is such a good friend.
Zach: this will help me relieve pain Also Zach: we shall torture Keith
Misery loves company, and a friend in need is a friend indeed.
@@aldendomino3523 not to mention it's also funny
I think it’s kind of cute how Keith is so confused by the products actually causing pain, but since the brain is made to focus on the most intense and current pain happening, a smaller, focused and controlled pain can actually help distract the brain from chronic unfocused pain throughout the body. It’s sort of like how when you have a paper cut and you randomly fiddle with it to get a small not really bad pain, for the rush of endorphins when you stop and the pain stops? It’s distracting in a controlled, safe way - as opposed uncontrolled and exhausting lol.
same thing
I needed this video
Sometimes I legit forget that Zach has such bad chronic pain. I'm finishing up my first year of med school and we've discussed ankylosing spondylitis many times and it is a bitch of a disease. Shout out to Zach for being so strong
I’ll second that AS is a bitch of a disease! And so is FM/CFS, Fibromyalgia, Hashimotos/hypothyroid, osteoarthritis. When you have chronic pain on top of chronic pain you don’t have a life. Chronic pain suffers are warriors!
@@jennifermurdock945 i have AS, hypothyroidism, fibromyalgia, and osteoarthritis..... yaaaaaa
Yes chronic pain sucks I’m 15 iv had chronic pain my whole life but it got really bad 3 years ago
@@jessikajones934 oh my..hang In there buddy
Do you learned about Ehlers Danlos Syndrome?
I clicked on this video, knowing absolutely nothing about the Try Guys, because I have chronic pain. I was expecting to see a bunch of able-bodied guys making fun of products that were not made for them. I am SO happy to find that I was wrong and I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I loved all of the representation of different chronic pain sufferers, and adding in someone who doesn't have chronic pain was a really nice touch to show how different life is when you have chronic pain. Especially with how it showcased how much higher your pain tolerance gets to be when you live with pain every day.
if you haven't, i would highly recommend watching more of their content! As a person who suffers from chronic pain, it's been incredibly uplifting and cathartic to watch their videos (esp during harder days)
Watching Keith (able bodied guy at the beginning) say “this is less pain than what you have daily?!” Was a good representation of like ppl not understanding. Everyone always says “wow your pain tolerance is so high.” Yeah cause I’m at a 5 constantly, so this is nothing.
Zach's been a part of the try guys longer than he's been diagnosed with AS and his journey with treatment has actually been pretty well chronicled since the beginning! Some of it is on b*zzfeed (where they worked before they were independent) tho :/
@@taylormorency3936 lol for real! That pointy mat thing looked fantastic for my back (lower back nerve pain/damage, mostly left side) but not sure how it'd work for my leg, ankle, and foot haha.
Alexandria has back pain from carrying ned’s weight
Zach talking about heat pads not being hot enough is a mooood. Almost every time I use a heat pad for pain, I’m just thinking “more! MORE!”
Same here and they don’t make them long enough to heat my entire back just a portion at a time
I gather that in America, there's no hot water bottles! I couldn't cope without one for a few days a month.
@@purplesky001 yea, I do know what you’re talking about, but I haven’t really seen them around
Boil water, fill up a thin plastic bag, tie the bag, put on skin. It is so hot and so comfortable I will never ever buy a hot water bottle or a heating pad ever again. Literally just boiling hot water in a thin plastic bag and we're good. Also, it is cheap AF
@@aurora7442 Most plastic bags will just melt. You need the proper stuff
"... And Keith... Who I just wanted to see suffer."
If that isn't the most Zach thing to say, I don't know what is.
Lol. Exactly. Was just gonna write this. XD
@@LegallyLeader so true lol
My favourite line so far just starting the video 😂
Us @ all of our non chronically ill friends (playfully)
"Bye Garrek! Hope you feel good!" "I don't. Its fine." I felt this in my SOUL
Same
Yess!!!!
Me too.
That's a total mood
i am 25 with chronic pain and it’s so frustrating the way people treat invisible illness, especially when you’re younger. “you’re too young to have that pain!” “just wait until you’re older, then you’ll know pain.” “it can’t be that bad.” it’s so disheartening and frankly infuriating. i don’t sleep well, i have a hard time working out, and some days getting out of bed is extremely painful. but seeing videos like this make me feel much better and like there are people who understand.
Yes!! i have fibromyalgia and i am always in pain and the older people i work with always tell me i'm too young to have my hips and back hurting and that it "only gets worse as you get older!!" which is like.... not helpful At All
I love loved when Keith asked when he laid on the mat "is this pain less than your constant pain?" Bc that's such a good explanation for someone who just, doesn't get it (it also looks amazing I wanna try it lol)
Same, I've had a few days where I'd be stuck in bed I've even had to call into work because I can't get out of bed I'm working on pushing through for workouts more so I can get back into shape
Gotta hate those comments. I do with chronic pain. I have Fibro and Psoriatic Arthritis, perio osteoporosis, chronic migraines, and nerve pain. I'd be somewhat rich if I got paid for the number of times people have said that. So hurtful and unhelpful, ageist, and ableist. I hope we find the things that help the most in the future! Maybe we should take a jab at someone once they say that ;) lol jk😹
i got a brain injury at 14 and developed MS at 19 and yeah, doctors were ALWAYS convinced I was lying, same with the seizures I developed. I'm 22 now and it's still definitely a challenge:( I'm so sorry this is such a struggle for so many people
Ableds: "I don't have chronic pain, but my knee hurts." Disableds: "how long has your knee hurt?" Ableds: "few years." Disableds: "yeah that's chronic pain." Ableds: "F*CK!" 🎶 Tale as old as tiiiiiime... 🎶 😂🤣💀
...except when I got a referral for my chronic knee pain (that started in my teens) to the pain clinic in my 20s, I wasn't painful enough to be eligible.... so... yeah. Now in my 40s it's faster to list off what doesn't hurt, but nothing is generally even painful to consider medication, just enough to make me crabby and tired.
I've had a "bad knee" for 4+ years. Sometimes it hurts... sometimes it hurts a LOT... but it ALWAYS hurts. Recently I've added a "bad back" to my list of ailments. Again sometimes it hurts... sometimes it hurts a LOT... but it always hurts. I didn't know this was chronic pain.. I just thought it was getting old.
@@sallyhamilton7202, try 37 years. I get flack for always taking the elevator down, no one believes that if I walk down even one flight of stairs I won't be able to walk the next day. I was offered a medical discharge from USN basic training at 21 years old (was able to push on and get through). My healthcare profession involves a lot of walking. Soaking in hot water with Epsom salt, TENS and wrapping is what helps the most.
@@bcaye “try 37 years” is a really annoying sentence to say to fellow people with chronic pain. It’s not a competition and your situation doesn’t devalue theirs just because you’ve had pain for longer. Comment could’ve gone without that little snarky sentence.
@@aloeleaf, the longer it goes on, the worse it hurts. No, it isn't a competition but I do get comments from people many years younger saying " I have bad knees too, I don't baby them". That was my focus, sorry I didn't make it clearer. I truly feel bad for younger people with this problem because I can look back on my own journey. But belittling someone older just tells me you don't really have an issue or else you would understand that it doesn't get better over time.
"I have joint pain, muscle pain, and nerve pain. And frankly, it's hard to tell the difference between them." I have never felt more seen and understood by the Try Guys.
Once you get all of those mixed in together it really is damned difficult to tell!
I doubt this will be comforting at all, but after 15 years, it's *finally* getting easier for me to tell the difference. But they all suck, and sometimes it's still hard to separate them.
Same! People will ask what hurts and I can only reply with everything. Then I get "yeah but what exactly". So I start listing body parts lol. I find it's also difficult to explain to people without chronic pain how exhausting it is to hurt all the time.
@@premieress2623 I tell them the parts that DON'T hurt 🤣 usually that list looks like "forehead, belly button, chin, and eyes." anywhere there is a joint, I hurt. Where the cartilage of the nose meets the bone, I hurt. Where my collar bones connect to my sternum, I hurt. Where my eustachian tubes connect to the bone of my inner ear, I hurt. and they all dislocate often, which 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 HURTS 🤣
I am in the same place as him. I’ve tried nearly everything. I have the mat, I have the neck traction device and back massagers. I just want to find something that works for me
As a fellow chronically ill person, it means a lot to see other people talk openly about their pain too. Seeing other "healthy-looking" people talk about their pain is really validating. Thank you
I agree I know this series is meant to help Zach but it is amazing that you are willing to talk about chronic pain it is so validating to the struggles we face.
dude so many people have chronic pain, we are human and we get hurt. i def think there needs to be more of a community and informative conversation among peers for those trying to live "normally" with pain.
like you said "healthy looking"
Yes! It is so nice to see others like you, even if it is other illnesses. I have chronically ill friends but most have a visible thing to it, mostly due to mobility aids, and the internalised ableism hits you hard sometimes. Loved seeing this❤️
same, I am still going through the "no one knows whats wrong" phase (3 years of tests in) and I often feel so guilty, like maybe im just making it up and its all in my head. I don't look ill, but I am so ill with pain that I can barely function any more. My tests all show a healthy 30 y/o woman, nothing flags up other than the signs of pain. It's so frustrating and sometimes I wish I had a visible disability just so it can actually get some treatment or even a name. It's good to see other people who look young, fit and healthy talking about this!
I love that this gave Keith a reference point like "Your pain is worse than THIS?!" It helps people understand why we can't do as much as everyone else, even though we look healthy. I told my spouse it was comparable to how we felt the day after the 2nd COVID shot 😆
Thanks for the great idea. I was knocked on my ass for five days after the second Covid shot and I would take that every day over my chronic pain. Also Keith with the TENS. I use a TENS at a 5 to *help* with my period pain. And a 6 supposedly simulates birth pain? Wow.
My fiancé randomly had sciatica, only lasted a week or two. But I have severe, sharp chronic back pain from some sort of inflammatory disease. He was describing the pain of his sciatica and I was like….sounds like every morning to me
I wonder if my son and I had a placebo 2nd shot. Everyone else got a reaction. We felt perfectly fine
@@sunnylilme my mom and brother had absolutely zero side effects. I was knocked down for a week haha
@@Kat-qr7hv sciatica effing blows! I'm sure what you've got must be rough because I have mostly localized nerve pain and damage in my left lower back, plus some nerve damage and pain on my left leg, left ankle, and portions of my foot, and occasional sciatica and that stuff is rough for me. Sry for the run on sentence, just sharing some info ig lol. It's crazy how much we can all go through, but cheers to you, I hope you can get some better relief for your pain if possible. :)
As someone who is 20 with EDS it’s so nice to see a younger adult make content making invisible illnesses more seen and understood
hello fellow zebra (eds type 3 here) i agree
I absolutely love this video. I have hEDS so I love to rewatch this video to see more people around my age who have chronic pain.
@@jorwayblacknight3619 I also have hEDS! Watching other people talk about their pain helps me alot too
I have it to. I'm glad people can talk about their pain. I may also need to try some of these things.
Nice to see another zebra here!!
As a person with IBS who is constantly treated like a big, fat liar because "I don't look sick," thanks for this. Also, can we just appreciate Keith? "This is unpleasant...CRANK IT UP, DADDY."
Having used TENs, I knew exactly what he was experiencing just watching his FACE hahahaha
YES. I also have IBS (recently diagnosed after years of my old doctor ignoring me) and it's hard to explain why my body hurts and how, yes, I am ill even if I don't appear to be.
Anyone who says "but you don't look sick" has a special room in hell set aside for them and they will be getting stabbed with a lot of pitchforks
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEEEEEE
Feel you there. I have endo and i had many doctors tell me my pain was in my head before i had surgery and got a my diagnosis. And not one single apology afterwards go figure 🤷♀️
This taught me that the line between managing chronic pain and BDSM is a circle
True
@@Ace-jk8mq it's spelled masochist :) it's because of a dude called Leopold von Sacher-Masoch who wrote a book about a masochistic character, similar to how sadist comes from a dude's name (the Marquis de Sade) too who wrote books about sadistic characters - btw I'm not saying this to sound condescending or bossy, just thought maybe you'd like to know or be reminded idk man I just want to clarify that I don't blame anyone for spelling errors
:)
...but that makes so much sense 👀👀
@@leorolfert9723 it really does though.. My boyfriend got kinda scared when he read this...
"Hope you feel good." "I don't. It's fine." What a goddamn mood
the laugh (in person!) from “hope ya feel good-“ “i don’t. it’s fine” is just perfect and reminds me that there are casual chronic illness friends out there. thanks zach and everyone else on the try guys.
It's cute how they just have a community of people with chronic pain and they're just sharing chronic pain relief stuff with each other
This is how my friends and I are. We're prior military and all have chronic knee and back pain with some other bonus pains occasionally. Lol
Not “cute” when you are in pain ...
I love this community. Everyone is so sweet
@@greeneyesyesterday they were saying the sense of empathy and understand was cute, not the fact they're in chronic pain.
I would still say that saying that the pain community is "cute" is still not okay. By all means say "it's great" or "I'm glad" about the community. "It's cute" is unhelpful...
“Does it hurt less than the pain you have?” Yes. I feel this question in my whole body
I hope your day & evening go well, and may it hurt less tomorrow. Also, hilarious handle! 🐼🐼
My WHOLE body!!!
I also felt this in my whole body
Big mood, body and soul
Or, "is it at least a new and different pain?" Some types of pain (or places) stop you doing something, but a different pain can stop you doing something else.
When Keith says “does this hurt less than the pain you have” and Zach nods, I felt that.
I'm 22 and have had chronic pain since I was 14 and this video was so reassuring. Having Keith ask about it hurting less than our every day is the realization I wish a lot of people in my life would have.
it’s also cool that they can have this understanding *and* work together. whether it be the perk of having an understanding coworker (who has a longterm, equal connection so that they don’t hold any power over the chronically ill person) or the perk of a deep friendship, they really bond in this video without pitying and i love that.💗
Dude, as a fellow chronic pain spoonie, I feel so seen. And I love that we have able-bodied Keith as a control to this experiment. Him kinda having a moment of realization like "oh you're in so much pain that this pain is relief? Holy shit" was validating af. I'm excited for the rest of this series. Thanks for discussing this topic, Zach.
true!! Before your comment I didn't even realise that about this comment of Keith but you're so right!! Shit. Just gave me perspective on my pain experience.
That is a bloody good idea!!!
@Lanae!! I caught it too and had a split second thought of im buying one of these and taking it to my next grade level team meeting and letting them have a 'keith' moment.
Out of topic, but you are so pretty 🦋
That last one, "the little moments of nothing", its crazy that when you have chronic pain, feeling nothing is such a luxury
Yea... It's kinda like when ur sick and u got the sinuses, that when you can finally breath again after like a week it feels like heaven Except chronic pain is... Chronic...
This is more important than a lot of people realise as well. My pain is in my wrists which is extremely hard to manage especially with working. I also find that the only real solid way to stop the pain sadly is drugs (prescription). But those few hours of being pain free are just a god send especially for mental health. Pain is exhausting and the relief is just so important for you that you dont even realise how tired you are just dealing day after day.
One reason why I'm so hesitant in going for the strong painkillers. Feeling nothing is good but it's really jarring 😭 PS. I'm Not against taking medications at all. Just relaying a personal feeling. I take them a lot of times especially when I need to be functional. The strange feeling of numbness still gets to me
God yes.
@@candycanenee Personally I keep them only as an extreme pain day backup. I dont want to rely on any pain medication for daily use and end up doing horrible damage to my kidneys or something along those lines, but there are some days when you simply can't exist the pain is so bad and none of your normal tricks and treatments help. For me personally, thats when the narcotics come out.
The Try Guys try walking in the shoes of others, whether literally in stilettos or by wearing simulators to mimic labor or old age. Zach’s personal health journey made him the right person to review chronic pain treatments, but I want more! More chronic pain education & outreach, please.
It takes some time to get used to an acupressure mat, but it's seriously incredible for chronic pain. The trick is to stay on the mat until the pain goes away. If it's too intense at first, you can wear a thin piece of clothing over the mat but stay on it until the discomfort turns to relief.
"Do your streches." Me, a person with chronic pain who loathes her streches: *hides under the table*
“Do your stretches” Me: rabid badger snarls
I wish I could GET under the table...🤣
Girl, I’m there with you l HATE them.
every time i use one of the dumb bands for my stretches i smack myself in the face with it 😭
Claws coming out
Zach wanting heating pads with SEARING heat is one of the most (if not THE most) relatable thing he's ever said. I don't have chronic pain, but I used to get HELLISH periods as a teenager. As in, can't go to school, can't eat, can't move for 2 days, every month. Even with pain pills, the only real relief I got was a heating pad cranked up to the highest levels.
Thanks for this comment. I'll try it next time I get my period lol. Also, I feel so bad for the people with chronic pain because it's basically intense pain that you can't tell anybody because they can't see it. I have it hard enough trying to keep my mouth quiet while I'm on my period and pretending everything is ay ok but like always being in pain and even more intense? That must suck so much!
The only thing I found that can get hot enough for my back pain is a microwaveable lavender heat pillow. Microwave it for double the recommended time, then be careful not to burn urself
@@lilsdreams4075 the problem with those is that they don’t STAY hot for long enough, I just need a heating pad that can borderline burn my skin off at this point 😂
wait that's bad?? :> i thought everyone got that pain oh god ive just been living through this lmaooo except that i can move but the pain is barely tolerable well shet
@@jaymieetc it’s really bad and unusual! Period pain is so normalized that not enough people think to see a doctor about it. See a gynecologist and/or family med doc ASAP! They can help! Sometimes just a little, sometimes a lot. Mama Doctor Jones is a KZhead gynecologist helping with information on periods and other gynecological issues and stigma
I bet the guys wanna hook Ned back up to the shock stuff from the pregnancy video 😂
Dealing with chronic pain when you are young and look "healthy" is a lot, to put it mildly. This made me feel seen and smile a lot. Thanks TG for continuing to shed a light on us. We know what it's like. Also so relate to Garrick's response "I don't. It's fine"
"I need heating pads to singe my fucking skin off" is the true chronic pain experience
My husband is ALWAYS telling me that my heating pad is too hot! No it’s not, and yes I took the cover off to make it hotter.
@@beckymrtn81 it's funny because the heating pad they showed is either a lemon or I got a lemon because I literally can't go over a level 3 for more than 30 mins, that's sitting against it, which I know you aren't supposed to, but I always have. The one I have, the exact one they are showing, I can't sit against it at a level 6, and I'm like you, I usually have it so hot and without a cover. This one you can't take off the cover, but like I said, either they got one that doesn't get hot enough, or I got one that goes too hot. I've slept on and sat against heating pads for at least 10 years, and this one is by FAR the hottest one I've ever tried. But maybe mine is broken with no heat temp top off. You should try it. They have a great return policy and I also bought it off Amazon. Less than 30 bucks.
My heating pad is always at the highest and it's not enough for me either. Lol
Y’all, find a vintage heating pad from like the 50s-60s, companies that don’t exist anymore, that shit get HOT
Yesss RIP it all off. Lol
"I would call it a peaceful pain" As a chronic pain sufferer that sentence makes total sense to me. Also, I feel very called out by "Gotta do you your stretches. I know you don't want to. Do it."
Also feel called out
Right?! I also feel called out. Have DJD throughout my whole spine with the severity increasing the lower you go. I'm just used to being in constant pain. The stretching definitely helps but man it's just such a pain (pun intended) doing them.
I call it the relive pain
Sameeee
This is exactly the same comment I wanted to type lol
I had been staying away from this series because I come to KZhead to forget about my chronic pain but these are frankly the most validating videos I have seen in a long time, thanks Zach
“Hope you feel good” “I don’t, it’s fine” NOTHING sums up my experience with chronic pain more than that. All the “hope you find reliefs soon” and “feel betters” in my life culminated in that one line of dialogue. Because most likely I won’t. But it’s fine! 😂😂
We give Zach stuff for being the weakest try guy sometimes. But my God, he is metal as frick here. Mad respect.
I feel he's only the weakest because of his conditions, so he has to be more careful. It's not really something like being lactose intolerant or you can say screw it and know you'll be fine if you take a pill later. Tbh feel like it's weird flex to think of him as weak. What he goes threw takes a fair bit of mental and emotional strength in order to not let it tear you down. He might not be has physically string, but weak he is not.
Surviving is badass, take it from a guy two people tried to beat to death with a hammer. This video meant a lot to me, it's tough to never feel "heard". People do not understand when you don't 'look sick'. If one more person tells me "You'd feel better if you took a walk", I may commit an atrocity.
If anything, Zac is the strongest for almost always doing the same thing as the other boys despite his body hurting.
@@emmidjam2307 Definitely!
@@_IVXX I don't think of him as weak, like I said earlier in the comment I have mad respect for him. I see a lot of people being bad or giving him flack so I'm really proud of him.
watching this after everything seeing alex was like a jump scare
I came to the comments section looking for this comment lol
Same
as casual as they could make it, but yessssss this
I can tell shes being more reserved to not attract hate too
Thank you cuz same lmaooooo
After watching this… many times…I finally bought the neck traction device and it has given me so much relief! I have EDS and NO curve in my cervical spine. I use it before bed and in the morning to stretch my neck and WOW so worth the money!!!!
I bought it after watching this, but I've been too afraid to use it yet. I hurt my neck spring of '92 and have never seen a doc for it even though it hurts every single day. Not nearly as much as you probably hurt though. :( I wish you all the pain relief possible and no furtherance of your condition.
2020 and 2021 has taught me that I'm most like Zach and he's actually a piece of sunshine we all need.
He really is 💛
THIS. Same for me!
Agreed.
Keith is the friend everyone needs and deserves.
Nice pfp picture ! I like the purple monsters personally , but I wouldn’t drink it by choice
@@eliandabilities thank you! And I’m not much of a fan either. Hadn’t drank one since middle school and that one matched the shirt I was wearing so I gave it a try. Not a fan. I only like the monster coffee line because I very much enjoy flavored sugar milk that pretends it’s coffee.
I've had a headache pretty much every day of my life, which honestly didn't used to phase me until they morphed into blinding, skull splitting, horrific tension headaches, but I also have stage 4 endometriosis and have chronic moderate to severe pelvic pain which radiates into my hips, legs, and knees, sometimes into my feet. My daily pain level hang out between 4 and 6. It's invisible so I get treated like I'm being dramatic or faking, and it's so often minimized or written off as a "female problem." I appreciate the shit out of this and I hope the series continues 🙌🏻❤
My heart breaks for your suffering. My daughter and her daughter have endometriosis plus several debilitating diseases. I too suffer terribly every waking moment. Can’t wait for the next life!!😢
I can't count how many times I've watched this video just to feel less alone in the isolating experience of chronic pain life... but definitely also to get product recommendations. Zach's response to Kelsey's soas/hip flexor device is *priceless* and soooo accurate I love it
I'm not the only one who comes back to this video to hype myself up haha. I have arthritis in the hip though that flexor thing looks legitimately terrifying.
I love how the Try Guys are all still together but have their own separate ventures as well.
I like how they participate in each other’s ventures too because they support each other 🤍
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this aged poorly
@@elizasavage8994 OHNOOOOOOO
WELP
I would just like to thank Zach for being so open about his autoimmune disease. Last summer, I was binging old try guys videos and watched his first two videos about his AS journey. I found a lot of similarities in myself in what he was describing. I did some research on my own, and decided to ask my doctor for some tests. I had been struggling with chronic fatigue and pain for seven years without any answers from doctors. It turns out I’ve been suffering from an autoimmune disease, undifferentiated connective tissue disease, the whole time. I’m getting treatment now and I haven’t felt this good in years. My life is somewhat normal again. So thank you, Zach, for sharing your story. Without it, I probably would have gone many more years without a diagnosis and treatment. 💚
I’m so glad you were able to get help!! Man, chronic illness representation is so important, it makes me so happy to see ppl finding themselves, realizing they’re not struggling alone... I hope you’re managing well💖
I only got these symptoms recently and I thought its something similary. Turn out it is not. My joints hate winter.
I had a similar experience! Zach's videos on AS definitely helped me get diagnosed more quickly than I would have (I have AS too).
As someone with chronic back, chest and stomach pain as a teen this has really given awareness to the fact we can look healthy and still be in so much pain. As someone who doesn’t have a diagnosis for my pain and is usually discredited by doctors because of the way I look, I’m hoping some of these products could help with my pain!
the difference in pain tolerance is SO real haha! When I got my first tattoo I told the artist that I have chronic pain in my back and legs and she was like "oh this will be fine then" and it was
As someone who doesn’t have chronic pain, this is super interesting and educational - I can’t wait for more in this series. To anyone reading this with chronic pain, you are a total badass.
Yess!! I was thinking the same
Yeah we are! It's no joke
thank you :) and if you wanna know more about disability and chronic illness, i'd recommend checking out some disabled youtubers! lots of them make fun and interesting content like this while spreading awareness about disability issues.
As someone who has been dealing with a rare disease for 9 years now 😂 this sounds awful but thank you I’d prefer not to be badass but thank you
Thank you! It’s hard... but being seen feels good!
salonpas is literally pure heat and otherworldy morphine levels of numbing and I live for it
Salonpas does NOTHING to touch my pain. 😔
I love Salonplas very much as person with scoliosis and (as a result) a fucked shoulder.
@@KristiWilson I know it's so late but I guess u should try the red salonpas, it's way hotter than the normal one
It’s so comforting to hear others stories about chronic pain! I’ve had psoriatic arthritis since I was teenager and when I was 30 started experiences osteoarthritis
R C I’m right there with you. I recently got diagnosed with Osteoarthritis and no med for it.
Similar for me...psoriatic arthritis and osteoarthritis. Constant pain. Constant fatigue. But I'm trying to live my best life.
Zach's image is always like "weak" but having to deal with chronic pain takes some MAD STRENGHT, and this video showed it
Yeah, it really does. My bf is always so amazed by how much pain I can handle since he says he'd never be able to go through all this.
As a viewer who has chronic pain and chronic illnesses, I love that Zach discusses/is open abt his pain and illness
Completely agree. As someone with nerve damage in my lower back and spine it’s comforting seeing an influencer talking about it.
Sending you, and anyone else who suffers, so much love 💕
Combat related chronic pain. The strangest things can help. My vehicle is a manual, its a nightmare on the left leg and back. Voltaren (might be misspelled) is OTC and might offer some additional relief.
Agreed!!
I have chronic pain thanks to scoliosis and I wholeheartedly agree. I actually have one of those acupuncture mats and I love it. It’s oddly relaxing
I’m 17 and I have had chronic pain for basically 10 years (idk really I just remember I have had it since I can remember) and it’s really nice to see a lot of people openly talk about their chronic pain (and Keith and his old knees, love him XD) so I just wanted to say thank you for making this to not only talk about it but also help people calm their pain
kelsey walking in with the giant bag of gadgets was too real for traveling as a chronic pain haver 😂
I think ppl suffering with chronic pain should go around for one day with a t-shirt or something saying, "I'm in pain right now". We would be shocked to find out how many actually soffer with it
Omg that's a great idea!
Heh, that's a good idea.
I have a pin that says this
Honestly more people suffer from it than we know because many people don’t know the definition of it so don’t know they have it
It would be nice to find more people who get it
“It would wreck your orifices” Sam: whoo hoo Zach: and not in a good way 😂😂
If Sam had his own show I’d watch that shit. He seems so down to earth and funny
It looks like a hand mixer for your muscles.
I love the person Zach becomes when he’s with Kelsey🤣
As someone who was recently diagnosed with Ehler's-Danlos, I cannot tell you enough how appreciative I am for your little mini-series on chronic pain.
I definitely would give Keith a 5 star review for that body Don't forget! a thirsty comment for Keith!
Oh yessss so I will help this become a top comment
Keith will be so happy!!
HOT KEITH APPRECIATION TIME!
I'm excited for this series. As a black women it can be difficult to find a doctor that takes your pain seriously. You end up spending a lot of money for nothing. I hope you have more guest on. The diverse range of chronic pain would be so helpful.
Same when you're "too young to be in so much pain." Docs don't always work with you on it. My friends and I are all veterans and we all have various issues from our time in service. It sucks.
“You end up spending a lot of money for nothing.” This seriously makes me cry. As someone with an autoimmune disease I know how frustrating and unfair the medical world can be. Good luck to everyone on their journeys. It’s a tough road but there will always be a community here for you
Even as a white woman, doctors do not believe me, they think I am too young to be in pain or that is is because I am over weight. no matter how many doctors I talk to and tell them the pain came before the weight and that I miss working out and playing sports and being more active. that the pain is what stops me.
I'm a brown woman and I've been dismissed by so many doctors, put down as dramatic or overreacting. It's so hard for us to be taken seriously.
Agreed its rough. Ive had back pain for years but i never mention it when i go to the doctors partially because im scared of bad news but also because of fear I'll just be dismissed/not taken seriosuly because it happens to women (espeically black women) so often
This is just a testament to all those that deal with chronic pain / illness. Seeing the representation through these videos and comment threads makes me happy. While I don't personally suffer from anything chronic like this, I'm glad videos like this exist so I can understand everyone's challenges and how to respond/help better. I wish y'all ease and comfort, mentally and physically.
I own… most of these. Zach’s melancholy at the end I relate to so deeply. It’s hard having a chronic illness/pain at an age where many people are at their healthiest. And like how do you respond when someone asks how you’re doing when every week is a new medical problem, when a good day isn’t an absence of pain but just a less exceptional level?
I feel you as someone with chronic pain, I'm in my mid-twenties.
It's hard having these as an older person too. It's not easier for older folks to hurt. I've been the young person with chronic pain and now I'm near 60 with chronic pain. It just gets worse.
i never get a sense of what normal people's pain levels are until something like this. i lay on my acupressure mat for 30 minutes and don't think it's painful at all, lol.
I've slept on mine overnight; hardly feel it.
I know just Keith being like this pain hurts less than your pain, and Zach says yes, and keith is just like well that's unfortunate. like it bc it's so hilarious and true but also not being oversympathetic about just like damn, that's unfortunate
I honestly think this is why i went so long without pursuing any kind of a dx for my pain. My baseline was always "not as bad as my period". Someone told me that the baseline should be No Pain, and i thought they were lying 😭
Yeah .. My threshold and tolerance are a horse of a different colour lol
I use one for my migraines, stress, and back pain, and it feels AMAZING. so I got one for my dad who has back problems, and for him it's too intense, which is something I don't understand. Some people have 0 pain tolerance!
"Uh hope you feel good" "I don't- it's fine" I know this was said from one person with chronic pain to another but MAN nothing sums up the awkward 'get well soon' interactions I have with not-chronically ill folks better then that.
UGH YES. THANK YOU.
hello! im so sorry you have to go through that. if you don't mind, what are some things that people w/o chronic pain can say that goes along those lines ? I've been guilty of using that line and id like to know how to properly show my empathy
@@ayamsmol9589 Thank you for asking! "I hope that you feel as well as possible" and "I hope you have a low pain/pain-free day soon" are a great stand-ins in my opinion, they doesn't hold the same assumption of future health that "get well soon" does.
I just end up putting on a really fake smile and trying to contain my sad laughter
“Get well soon!” “I physically can’t, but thanks for reminding me!” I know people are well intentioned, but as someone who has lifelong chronic illnesses and has chronic pain, it’s so goddamn annoying. Marginally beaten by when I was in school and kids asking “CaN i HaVe A gO iN yOuR wHeElChAiR?” and saying I was “lucky” because I didn’t ‘have to’ walk, as if it was a ride and not a mobility aid I needed because of the aforementioned disabilities
I watch this when I'm feeling down about my chronic illness (I have ankylosing spondylitis as well) and it's always nice to see someone talk about their pain, it makes me feel so much less alone. Side note: Zach talking about how he hovers around a 3-4, my TENS go up past 30 and I'm always around 15-20
'hope you feel good' 'i dont' THIS IS SUCH A RELATABLE SENTIMENT! i feel this every day
it’s so weird seeing the ways former buzzfeed people cross paths like when i saw garrick i was like “hey he was on puppet history!”
I always get excited when I see Garrick because my dad's name is Garrick and in 30 years of life he is the only other Garrick I've ever seen 🤣
Garrick does the Guilty Pleasures podcast with Zach and Kelsey!
I remember him from opposite sex room mates
I don’t think Zach will ever see this but by the end of this video I was sobbing. I’m only 20 and have been living with chronic pain since I was 9. I just relate so much to trying absolutely everything and at the end of the day still hurting. But Zach still shows up and not only shares his story openly but he makes us laugh along the way so thank you Zach❤️
I'm pretty much in the same situation as you, I tried going on a pain management course and that kinda helped
I bought one of those guns lol
Jasmine I have been in pain since I was 15 and my migraines started to get worse. But I completely understand where you’re coming from. Maybe one day we can all relieve our pain
Hi sunshine, I’m 25 and have been dealing with chronic pain for as long as I can remember it got worse when I was a teenager and could walk for two years. The hardest part part is finding doctors that believe you then are willing to help you throughout the process. Feel free to reach out anytime 💕
Honestly just watching this and seeing people who look like they're fine but they are in pain, was so damn validating. Also might try some of these things!
I’ve been dealing with chronic pain covering the areas between my waist and knees for about 3 1/2 years now and it’s still unknown what’s causing it, although since I’ve had an MRI and been to a rheumatoid specialist as well as having blood tests and nothing is coming up, it’s now suspected fibromyalgia. Seeing other people being able to live a happy life despite their pain and despite other peoples opinions (it’s all in your head, or you’re exaggerating, or essentially assuming nothing is wrong with you because you’re young). Thank you for showing people there is hope to live a somewhat normal and happy life ❤️
Kelsey saying "this is so stupid but you get to a point where you go I'LL TRY ANYTHING" made me feel more seen than I realized I needed. Thank you for the video.
Literally.
Honestly the shit that chronically ill/disabled people have to go through just to be comfortable existing is insane. The world just isn’t built for us yet :/
Zach should start a podcast where he reviews these types of products and talks about pain and the science of pain relief. Call it the painkillerz podcast
I really hope they do more chronic pain videos. I'm 21 and was recently diagnosed with fibromyalgia after 8 years of symptoms. Seeing people I admire talking about having chronic pain was amazing and these product reviews and recommendations were really helpful! People just don't get chronic pain and invisible disability, so it helps to see it treated as real and normal enough to earn a KZhead review video. Every time I have a bad pain day and feel really alone, I just come back and watch this video.
Please be careful when using the tens unit. They are never supposed to be placed over the heart or the neck. Do NOT place the adhesive electrodes on/or near the heart or across the chest because the introduction of electrical current into the chest may cause rhythm disturbances to the heart.
I understand the heart but why not the neck?
As a graduated medical student (aka doctor), knowing that your PMI is in the 4th intercostal space is completely irrelevant to whether or not the TENS unit is actually dangerous to use. I can't find any evidence that anyone has ever been harmed by an inappropriately applied TENS unit, and a few studies even seem to investigate TENS as a method of controlling post-sternotomy pain. I'd need more information on the actual electrical current, etc. before I could even begin to agree or disagree with this statement.
My Ireliev tens unit manuel came with a list of warnings. The warning about the neck says, "Stimulation should not be applied over the neck or mouth. Severe spasm of the laryngeal and pharyngeal muscles may occur and the contractions may be strong enough to close the airway or cause difficulty in breathing."
This is also true on the spine. Do not place the tense electrodes directly on the spine.
says that on the box too thankfully
“Definitely doesn’t look like I’m in a body bag” Flashback to when Ariel killed him and Keith covered him with the trash bag
Wait when did that ariel thing happen 😂😂
@@vishakhasingh3293 in a F***, marry, kill video
I cannot stress the amount that this video means to me. I have never seen so many different types of people with chronic pain in one video, sharing their struggles and coping strategies. There is so so little chronic pain representation in the media and it means a lot that you are doing this series. I have chronic pain myslef, and it is so meaningful to see this in the media. Thank you.
I really love Kelsey’s personality, she’s really funny and the life of the party😂
I agree, Kelsey always makes me laugh. Have you seen her in the video where Keith eats expensive cheese? She's sooooo funny in there too (:
"Gotta do your stretches. I know you don't want to. Do It." Me who actively avoids their stretches. "oops"
Me too, but less oops, and more "Hate them, hate them SO much".
I felt so guilty when Zach said it
i havent willingly stretched in years lmao
Huh
Friendly reminder to do your stretches today
5:48 Keith: "Oh it's unpleasant..." Ned watching: 👁️👄👁️
I read that as the quote played, great timing!
Zach and Alex seem like they were good friends... this is hard to watch
"This is a pain that I'm choosing. And it's a pain to give relief." So interesting!! That reminds me of how some people choose certain painful (physically or emotionally) BDSM things and it's a huge deal that they consent to it as opposed to if they once had no choice about receiving certain pain. Being in charge, in control, at choice can make all the difference. (Plus of course there are many people who experience certain physical or emotional pain who then don't choose to actively seek it out again.) I know that tangent is different than chronic physical pain sufferers. I just thought I'd share what my brain came up with here. That tangent aside, this was a great video!! So educational! That ending WAS melancholy. Sending love to everyone in any form of pain.
I feel like I have the choice to brave the pain because I know mentally I can ‘tap out’ or ‘safe word’ anytime it gets so bad I can’t take it physically or mentally and that is honestly what makes all the difference. Of course having chronic pain daily, all the time wears on you and exhausts you way differently but during flares, for me at least, the control thing is definitely true.
"it's a pain you choose"when zach said this, it hit hard for me.., the worst thing it's not having control to me...somehow this gives him control 😔
When I have really bad IBS flare ups, the only thing that gives me any relief is digging my fingernails into my thighs as hard as I can. The sharp pain of that blocks out the gut wrenching gut pain just enough for me to not keel over on the toilet ☹️
@@Spectrarian I've got a lot of joint pain, if I'm doing anything that's particularly aggravating it (ie. Walking up a hill with a bag over my shoulder) the only thing that makes me stop feeling like I'm going to either throw up or pass out is biting down really hard on my hand. Nice to know this isn't just a me thing
@@Spectrarian I found out i have ibs last year and my life has changed so much. I found tea helps me. Idk why but its something that keeps my stomach and guts a little more calm.
i have fibromyalgia and understanding that I can learn to live with it, I can't go back to how I was living because that's what caused the sickness, but I can learn to listen to my body and what it needs, yes it can't be cured but I can have my life back, it's like riding a wave, if you follow the wave, you'll eventually learn what your body needs and when. it's a whole process of compassion, love and patience.
also, we have 70% of our immune system on the stomach, that's why many of us have problems with certain foods or with stress or really big emotions.
I didn't realize how ✨cute✨ Alexandria is. Seeing her with Zach, our og cutie, they look like brothers and sisters.
Yes!! She's so adorable. Each time I see her she gets more adorable.
I felt it when Zac said "do your stretches". There is not a day that goes by that I can go without stretching thanks to years of chronic pain. It wasn't until recently that I realized that not everyone has to stretch all the time. Lord forbid I go without stretching and I like cannot move 😂
It’s comforting to see young people with chronic pain, I’ve had pain since I was 12 and I’m 24 now and it’s nice to be reminded that we aren’t alone
I feel like when God made Zach he really said “we’ve inflicted enough pain to the humans let’s just give them a bundle of happiness”
I honestly don't know how he stays so bloody positive and chipper. I've dealt with chronic pain for 20 years and it's a constant struggle to not be a rage monster.
But I have to say, I met some people with pain above average on the daily caused by multiple things from birth. And they are always the most positive people, just ray of sunshines. I had a friend in school who would regulary collab on long days and had on top of that breathing problems. We always carried her to lay down with a paper bag and while not being able to breath properly, she smiled and laughed through her phases. It makes you appreciate health more
@@missdire genuinely, I have the same disease as him and I dont know how he does it. He seems to take good care of his health though.
And thena gave him a lot of pain?
@@jasperj.d.g.4147 for real. I dont think they understood that he's literally always in pain.
Sometimes I forgot not everyone has chronic pain and let me tell you, it creates the funniest situations when I talk about some weird thing my body does and the other person is just completely confused and I’m like ohhhh...
I forget this too! I’m disabled (autistic, PTSD, and the chronic pain sure doesn’t help) and when the people in my life offer to help out I’m always so hesitant to ask for something that would require some sort of physical labor bc I just assume it would hurt them as much as it would hurt me 😳
Omg me too! like it's so normal for me to have my stomach not work fully (gastroparesis) that when I told someone about it being partially paralyzed they went "wtf!!!"
Same. My doctor once asked if I had pain anywhere and i said "just the normal amount," and he told me the normal amount was none. I was so baffled i laughed
Spoonies: You know when you're just sitting there and your body [insert chronic pain thing here]? Normal, healthy people: Uh... no?
This was great! Thanks Zack! I have AS too, but also EDS (along with other stuff). When you have AS, because your bones fuse, your ligaments take over for much of your movement, but, with Ehlers-Danloss (EDS) your ligaments are degrading at the same time. It's shit. I'm 20 years older than you, but now in a wheelchair when I go out of the house, and the pain is... exceptional... I love the chair seat you showed, but I admit, I was disappointed when there were no links in the description. I'll go hunting for it, but it would have probably been good for you, and handy for us, to have put affiliate links in the description!!! The neck blow-up pad things looks awesome for those days when I wake up with a migraine (also have neck injury from MVA)... I'm looking forward to the next edition of this series!
"but this is a pain that I'm choosing." exactly this though... I will gladly self-inflict pain for the rest of my life if it means I can get rid of the pain I have no control over. cupping sounds horrifying...! When I was little I sucked really hard on my arm for no reason (I was bored?) and I had a mark for MONTHS afterward
"Hope you feel good" "I don't, it's fine." Honestly mood. the pain doesn't ever really go away T-T
I am both of them, the awkward well wish and the honest response
Jup, me in a nutshell and then you always have those idiots saying things like 'but no one can be in pain 24/7'. Well I am and many others are, so stop questioning us! Any second of relief is like paradise!
Yeah when someone asks me "but don't you hurt?" before I go do something I just say "Yup, but I always do so its fine"
zach trying not to laugh while massaging alexandria who is laughing uncontrollably had me ROLLING
So I am two years late to comment on this video, but I have been living with chronic pain for over a decade. In order for me to be able to sleep at night I almost have to cook my skin off in the shower in order for my muscles to feel comfortable enough to sleep. My husband just doesn't get why I have to literally roast myself in the shower, no matter how many times I have to explain it. I am glad to see I am not the only one that uses extreme heat as a way to cope with chronic pain.
This was a video I didn’t even know I needed. I’ve suffered from back pain and neck pain for almost as long as I can remember. I also have a joint disorder in my jaw that causes extreme pain almost every time I open my mouth. I’ve been trying everything to help it and this video makes me want to test out so many of these products. It’s also so relieving to see all these younger people that “look fine” tell their struggles with chronic pain because everyone always tells me that I’m too sensitive because im only 19 but I feel so bad all the tome
Try guys video idea: The guys spend the day feeling the same amount of backpain as zach
I'd be so down to watch that!
Totally!
Holy shit yes
Yes
Love that Zach is continuously bringing more awareness to chronic pain! Chronic pain isn’t always visible to other people, and what is normal for us would be debilitating for those who don’t have chronic pain.. Your life changes whether you want it to or not, and a lot of us learn to just laugh and live with it to cope 🤷♀️
If we can't put on a brave face, everyone goes away! Nobody wants a friend that talks about how much it hurts all the time.
So true! I thought my pain and tiredness was how everyone felt so I never mentioned it until my mom said something to me about it.
@@devodavis6747 It’s true, unfortunately. I think we particularly don’t want to have people invalidate our pain if we’re always talking about it. If we’re lucky, we find a special person or two in our lives that is always happy to listen. It’s also especially nice to find other people who suffer with chronic pain because they actually understand the struggle!
@@earthtovesna Such a good point! Not everyone’s chronic pain has a definitive “starting event” that caused their pain. I hope you were able to have helpful doctor(s) figure out what your cause is ❤️
@@glacierwhispers I actually didnt need to find a Doctor, my mom suffers from chronic pain as well as she put me on an elimination diet to see if a specific food was the issue. Food was the issue so I never felt the need to go to the doctor. I just stopped eating the things I reacted to. My only issue is that I don't know what disorder/disease I have.
I am so grateful to come across this video cause I’ve been hesitant on buying things to try to deal with the pain. I have chronic pain and it’s become so debilitating lately it’s costing me my career and mental health. I ended up buying some of these products (oddly enough most are hsa eligible) and the improvement to make my day a little more bearable during this flare up is amazing. Thank you Zach for being so open about your pain. I had to go back and find this video to just say thanks because these have helped so much.
Honestly no clue how Zach was able to stand on the acupressure mat barefoot. I tried that once for shoots n googles and my feet were literally bleeding
The concept of giving yourself controlled pain to distract yourself from chronic pain is something that most people luckily don't understand. I pinch and slap myself, even scratch or dig my nails into my arms or apply extreme heat to distract myself from my back and other pain.
I really hope Zach knows that whenever we make jokes about him being lanky or small etc is always just banter, and in reality we're all aware of how strong he is
I’m pretty sure he knows that
Zack should work out though, it would help the chronic pain.
@@darkylinky288 just wondering, how do you know that he doesn’t?
@@darkylinky288 I’m just talking from my perspective as someone with chronic pain. For me (not speaking for Zach) but working out doesn’t help my pain in the slightest and a lot of times it makes it worse. My joints dislocate daily & my discs in my back slip out of place all the time and it’s very painful. I use way more of these pain relief toys or little angels than I would like to admit as a 21 year old. For some people working out can relieve some of their pain, for some it provides a distraction and for some like me it makes it worse.