This is how Challenger 2 got Destroyed in Ukraine
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We now have the footage of the Challenger 2 tank getting hit and destroyed. The video was published by the Russians and stated that the Kornet missile was used...
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Damn bro those long range Russian Molotov cocktails are crazy.
Even crazier than their long range shovels.
@@nemiw4429come on now we can't be misnaming them they are called hypersonic shovels
@@josephboustany4852I thought they were from moscava
@@josephboustany4852Unironically hilarious. I o l
shovels with chips from washing machines?
What I'll never understand, is how people can take a video of a tank being destroyed in an active war zone to discredit that specific model. No, the Challenger 2 isn't terrible, neither are the T-90, Leopard 2, T-80, T-64, T-72 and so on. The older models are simply designed for a different era, while new ones are unsurprisingly susceptible to contemporary ATGMs, as well as the good old mine or artillery barrage. It's worth to remember, all tanks burn the same.
Because the Brits have been talking it up as it has yet to be destroyed in any of the theaters it has operated in. This is the 1st time it has happened. That is why its begin discussed.
Agree. Only idiots are using tanks without aerial protection ...
I think you should blame the people who wanted to make it a dick measuring contest in the first place.
Most of us are just reacting to Ukrainian fan-boys who think every new development will change the course of the war. It won't. Just like a certain someone from WW2, who will remain nameless. (The guy who shouted "nein, nein, nein!" all the time maybe) Most of us know the reality of war with Russia. It won't go the way the neo-cons or the neo-libs think here in America. And THAT is what we've been saying over and over.
You could have said that when they were making fun of "inferior" Russian tanks getting their turrets blown off unlike the "technological ly advanced Western tanks"
Since the western media claims Russia has no Atgms left, does the infantry fighting shovel now have a top attack mode?
I’ve never once seen this claim in any major media source. If you look up Russia is out of atgms you actually get articles saying the opposite. Cool straw-man though
They are running out of missiles and atgms, they aren’t out of them no, but their supply won’t last forever, they aren’t the Soviet Union anymore, infact quite weak
@@LewisB3217they're not running out of shit, every single weapon system's production got multiplited by times and times. Stop the copium. Everything you've seen about russia in this war is a pure lie, probably. They will never run out of anything and remember this comment.
@@Saad-ih3ys yeah, I’m sure it’s all a lie comrade, just keep hoping 😷 I’ll see you in Moscow 😁
Who ever claimed that?
According to the tank manufacturer , what happened is the crew spill a cofee inside the tank that caused a short circuit in the electronic and the crew abandoned the tank .
Well that explains it, I mean coffee? The tank is rated to handle Tea brewing not Coffee...It was doomed from the start. :)
@aaronosborne4906 The explosion is from that cofee too . It's not from Russian ATGM , DRONE Artillery or mines . So yeah challenger 2 is immune to that
seems like coffee is a big issue for ukropian army these days given how their offensive goes.
Heresy....!!! coffee in tea powered tank !? No wonder it exploded.
Also on the video we have 2 BMP1s, one M113 and a pick up truck. That assault detachment took a heavy beating.
There are Z's on the BMPs and they are facing the other way...
@bigegames2019 What? Where did you see her there?
@@bigegames2019 you can see the blocky pixel paint on the bmp, that's a clear sign of a Ukrainian vehicle.
@@bigegames2019they are in Ukrainian cam. 🤷
@@bigegames2019Russia has m113 i don’t think so
To no one's surprise, the best weapon against tanks is still the anti tank mine.
well I don't think the mine degraded the tank's armor. Kornet/Vikhr would have done the same dmf if the tank was moving.
Joining the Ottawa treaty was stupid.
@@tunisiandom9318its very likely that ch2 frontal armour can stop kornet, but when the target is stationary not only do you not have a much easier time hitting it, you can hit it as many times as you want under no stress and even aim for weak spots.
The best weapon against a tank is 90% of the time........a tank.
@@pierluigiadreani2159 The Ottawa treaty doesn't forbid anti-tank mines. It's only about anti-infantry mines. My country is in the Ottawa treaty too and people in general think it was a bad idea. But you know how it goes... it's trendy to join and some politicians wanted to get some international points and the defense of the fatherland can go screw itself.
These unbiased, no-BS, expert reviews are a godsent in these times
he is not unbiased, he is VERY biased and has clashed with several other channels that are less biased. want proof of that? Look at the video description and you will see 0 sources.
@@AtemerusRhayli i hope you're not referring to laserpig and his childish responses to criticism
History legends for russian bias LazerPig for ukrainian bias
@@vladcadar8557 He is making childish remarks in this video that the turret was blown out... after the tank was abandoned... and inhis mind this is confirming that the tank is as prone to turret tos as Russian tanks... 🤣 Before the invasion i was preaty sure he is Russian as he was so into all the Russian propaganda and repeating every fake Russian claim about its hardware without any hesitation. Now when whole world is fully aware how amazing and unique are Russian tanks and other Russian wonder weapons he is sounding much more less biased. But the fact stays that his analitic skills sucks and trying to prove that there was a problem with the ammo left in abandoned tank is solid prove of that.
Bro HistoryLegends literally took at deal to go to Dubai from Russian sources and contacts. How is that "less-biased" in any way? not to Mention LazerPig Being A NATOpig??! Your comment has to be some CHAT GPT generated shyte, like it looks and reads real, but a real human can just not say that and mean it@@AtemerusRhayli
How the hell do the Russians throw their shovels that far and with such deadly force?
With guidance from washing machine chips.
Still nothing on the Palestinians who throw rocks kilometers that leave huge craters on impact.
@@imrekalman9044so a broken old Russian washing machine chip from Soviet era is equivalent to western latest tech?
@@lorden3657Yes. 🗿
@@lorden3657 Apparently so.
Lol you don't need to even penetrate armor to destroy a tank. -tank gets tracks blown by mine -by artillery -crew shit their pants and just leave -runs out of fuel -runs out of ammo -mechanical break
Runs out of tea.... remember its a British tank
@@kirgan1000 😆
This was bruning like bonfire tho. The "crew shit their pants and just leave" is probably right, nobody likes to roll arounf in a burning tank.
Calling the shop,track off!
-The teapot exploded.
Lazerpig on life support
Why?
@@MrJC1he’s a shill for NAFO and is violently anti Russian.
@@MrJC1does he pay u to bot?
@@saloenjoyer3266 okay, any negatives?
@@saloenjoyer3266 Wtf those are only postive things?
Lazerpig - the tank got abandoned and the crew threw a molotov inside for it to avoid being captured. When asked since when do tank crews carry molotovs, this genious came with the explanation that it was made from a vodka bottle (vodka, inflamable because its 40%abv and not 50%) the crews carry around for sanitizing their wounds. (again, anything 40%abv can hardly be used to sanitize wounds). The whole twitter thread is a goldmine, some of the best self owns ive ever seen anyone come with. I fully expect this dude to get an aneurysm after another one of those tanks inevitably ends in flames.
Lazerpig is talking amazing nonsense ....
I saw that Twitter thread as well. Dude was huffing copium 😂
They probably got the bottle of vodka from a dead Russian. Very powerful stuff.
Laser Pig is a joke, as if a Molotov could penetrate the armoured boxes and cook of the ammo.
So now ukranian crews are so underequiped of grenades and stuff that they're using molotovs? yeah... no
"it's not destroyed, it's just completely burnt down but it can be repaired"
Yeah it will be dragged to Poland and repaired. Like NAFO likes to say.
we can make stronger faster the 6 billion dollar tank starring boris johnson as idiot number1 and the lettuce as idiot number2 and co starring ritchie sunak i wasn't voted for as idiot number 3 special appearance by pedo joe as the where's my 10% man
keep the russian cope flowing. 700+ confirmed destroyed russian tanks and you are flexing about 1 british@@Boyar300AV
@@Boyar300AVcan even Poland fix challenger?
I imagined Richard Hammond saying that for some reason, while Jeremy Clarkson is angrily stomping his way and yelling.
The British forgot to make their Challenger tanks shovel proof.
again, WTF is with these shovel comments
@@juliuszkocinski7478because the Russian army uses shovels instead of actual guns
@@juliuszkocinski7478 i think its just a joke lol
@@juliuszkocinski7478you must be really new to the conflict hejeje
@@juliuszkocinski7478it’s a joke that started when some news organizations claimed Wagner mercs at Bakhmut were “under equipped” to the point they were “using shovels”. The reality is the reason they were using shovels is because after Wagner assault detachments captured an area there would be men behind them with shovels who would immediately begin to dig entrenchments within mere moments.
It was a shovel wielding Russian that destroyed the challenger, rumor has it he charged the tank and repeatedly smacked the hull with his shovel until flames engulfed the vehicle.
I heard it was a flying shuffle they made using chips from washing machines
Perfectly normal Battlefield 2023 gameplay
@@jasonz2736hahahahhaah
@@jasonz2736I wish the shovel wasn't a pay to win feature, it's nearly impossible to grind for it
Shotwell in 1 hand and a overgrown bush in another.
To think that Russia destroyed it with shovels, Molotov's and a T-34
Russian anti-tank missiles, aviation, smart projectiles krasnopol- will destroy any equipment of any country .... hundreds of armored burned-out vehicles from Germany, England, the USA, Spain, France are standing in the field ... NATO equipment burns very well ... Russia showed this around the world.
Ha, ha, ha. It was a Russian cornet.
@@BN-ym3fpRussia has no more ammo and fancy weapons, they're now even using T-70s, Believe me.
@@BN-ym3fpcant be, we were told Russia ran out of missiles and are fighting with shovels by the media 💀
@@Brslldsure bro
It rolled onto a russian shovel and the handle bounced up and hit it in its one weak spot. They have already fixed this in new updates.
LMFAO Sanest NAFO enthusiast
The crew survived because the BBC said so. Then again the BBC also said it was hit by a Lancet....
Big black c**k ?
wth challenger-2 destroyed lancet not cornet ? it's joke 😅
Doesn't the BBC also say the UKs borders are secure? They are a farce. If it was a lancet where is the video?
Did you watch the video?
Oh it must be true if the BBC said so!
The reason why this is the first enemy killed a Challenger 2 is because it’s fighting in an even war. When it was in Iraq, it was an asymmetrical war
T90 have been destroyed for the same reason and if the Armata is sent in that will be destroyed as well
@@Stephen-bq4nq the only difference that russian militaties and media do not claim that T-90 or Armata is undestructable. Anti-tank weapons are far ahead of the development of tanks. This is a trend all over the globe... Not to mention that tanks are vulnerable to drone attack
@@science_engineering true tanks and anti tank weapon is as old as fire and wood sticks today tank protection is lagging behind, in yesterday world you have maus, which most tank cant even penetrated and then HEAT shell comes, in ww1 days you have Mk.II, german makes the first anti tank rifle, then the british respond with the Mk.IV
Stop calling it aiyolmaosymetrical. Just keep it simple and call it conventional. That phrase was perpetrated by the mainstream media because those dumbasses wanted to pretend like they’re smart or something. If the Iraq war was a aiysymetrical, then so was WW2.
@@science_engineering The Russians have been beating their chests about the Armata yet they won't send it into battle
The wide of steel that thing can pierce is astonishing,what a shovel.
at least this bro is not lying to people, respect for you bro.
Most have reported the same thing, I've seen one out of ten who said there was no lollipop turret, so I mean he isn't the only lad
@@commiemethLazerPig has been lying all day on Twitter and then started deleting tweets and pretending it was a joke.
Nobody has lied. This was confirmed by Western media yesterday.
No, hes super lying. It has blowout panels.
@@Seth9809umm where?
2 morbillion dollar tank vs anti-tank mine from Stalin times
you must've meant a 10$ shovel
$10 anti-tank shovel)))@@J--12
Please educate Yourself on the subject. It was in fact an anti-tank SHOVEL!
Soviet weapons They never disappoint
Destroyed by "Cornet" laser guide anti-tank missile
Funny detail, when T-72s were burning during the gulf war them being downgraded export versions didn't matter, but now that the challenger 2 is burning it being a downgraded version suddenly matters a whole lot for some strange reason.
😉😉😉the holy grail broke😁😁😁
In Syria they have Russian tank commanders with a Syrian or also Russian crew in those T-72M tanks there only purpose was to destroy rebel concentrations to support friendly infantry to advance
It matters for military contractors profit. I'm surprised they are sending Abrams over there now, going to be a real bad PR day when a bunch of burnt out abrams are plastered on the internet.
I was gonna say the same. They will say it about the Abrams too when those start burning
I think the only reason is that at the time of Iraq war there was no youtube and communication wasn't easy as today
I like how they play it off like it's no big deal it's only one loss but when you only have fourteen to begin with losing one is a pretty big deal imo.
Let’s take note! All those tanks has had their CHOBHAM armor removed…what country is stupid enough to send tanks with top secret armor out?
@@ebperformance8436 whats the point of "top secret armour" if you dont even use it
@@ebperformance8436 Right.... and that armor would make them invincible? The tank would be destroyed just as well. This was a consequence of mistake made mid battle or bad luck. These factors will remain even if this super GOD TIER missing armor was applied on the tank. This wonder weapon mentality (now wonder CHOBHAM armor) is why the poor challenger is receiving this much shade lol
@@alispeed5095 the armor is not the only thing removed….and I’m not saying their Invincible, I’m saying, many features on the tanks have been removed. But I think you already know this.
Can't wait to see some pro-Ukraine dudes salivating when the Abrams will go to the frontline, only to be just as 'bad' as Leo2s.@@ebperformance8436
Best Tank KZheadr, hands down
nah The Cheftain is, RedEffect does other content outside of tanks.
Im glad other comment section guys told me about redeffect...thanks Internet comment section dudes and dudeets
Chieftain is best. Red get just copy pastes press releases from the Kremlin. 😏💁♂️
Hes one of Kremlin biggest propaganda puppets
@@teentitanss1845 I never knew the Kremlin paid people to make videos on problems with every tank they have 🤣🤣
Challenger 2 got those cheeks clapped.
Just like muslims all over the world
Ha... wrong... an M-kill isn't a write-off, 🤡... But if you hit it with a missile, or 155s, or several drone strikes, it adds up... 🤷🤷🤷
Those Western Tanks has had their CHOBHAM armor removed! The CHOBHAM armor is top secret. This is why you see other countries Losing M1A2 Abrams. CHOBHAM armor removed and the Depleted uranium panels removed = weakened tank,
@@ebperformance8436 They also get blown up because they're used wrong. They're meant to be part of a combined arms battlegroup blitzkrieging the enemy lines at top speed, like the battle of 73 Easting. A single sitting tank is a dead tank. If you need a pillbox, its best to leave the MBTs home.
@@ebperformance8436they also took out their Engine, and the ultra top secret gun as well. Essentially it's just metal coffins powered solely by Ukrainian crews with cycle wheelie below their feet.
It's good that the T 72 finally has friends who enjoys the same hobby, Turret tossing.
Becouse both do not have a special storage compartment for shells ? But the Russians have an automatic loader , so its shells are much heavier and destructive. + Russian takns have ATGM rockets
2/10 throw Turret too heavy for real acrobatics.
@@JAnx01Leopards 2 held the highest flying turret record for now. Combination of lightweight and just two screw to secure them on the hull.
@@free4photoLook at leopard 2 in syria, ammo explosion was so big it evaporated the front hull of the tank
@@deathmetalfan There is footage of one Leopard 2 shooting its turret far up on the move in Ukraine.
Its kinda funny how so many people in the comments try to protect the challanger at all costs but when a Leopard is destroyed almost everyone is sh*tting on it
Right? Unlike the Challenger the Leopard is still in production xD
Barely any comments are defending it. Like... 2? While there are 30+ comments from Z and rus flag profile pictures shittalking these nonexistent "Challanger 2defenders" and talking about how T72 is superior to it. This shit is why neutrality doesn't work. These russian trolls pop up in mass numbers in any comment section not actively banning them and being the most hateful people imaginable.
@@DefinitelyNotEmma Yeah and people forget the leopard might be less armored but is overall a better tank than the challanger, especially its gun. And wasnt it the british who wanted and actually made a joint Programm with the german tank manufacturers to develope the challanger 3 ? Lmao Hypocrisy at its finest
"Its kinda funny how so many people in the comments try to protect the challanger at all costs but when a Leopard is destroyed almost everyone is sh*tting on it" 😀 What else did you expect then the comment section becoming a playground for p...ssed Britaboos desperately trying to perpetuate the myth of the Challenger being an awesome weapon system intead of simply admitting that it´s just a load of cr...p?
@@kodor1146 you are right 😂
Lazerpig tomorrow: so what if i told you a challenger didnt explode?
New videos show that it got hit by a Kornet ATGM
virgin challenger-2 vs chad cornet : cornet still winner.
@@scpgaming-452its kornet not cornet noob
@@scpgaming-452kornet beats literally every tank that has ever existed
@@dessirangelova2676Nope, not Merkava 4 with Trophy system.
This is mine, after that he was hit by kornet.
The British MSM have tried to portray the Challenger 2 as a game changing wonder weapon. It was knocked out in the same way as the rest of the tanks in this war.
Nope, that has never been suggested anywhere. It was just to show the world not to be scared to give the UA the proper tools to spank Ivan that bit harder...
14 relatively old tanks were never a game changer, but started the supply of Western tanks. Tanks have been knocked out in many ways in this war. Like many, it was likely disabled by a mine and finished off later.
Yeah, the europe has a rich history of collectively spanking Ivans. Once it all ended up in Paris, once in Berlin.
no they havent, media may have but challenger is an old tank. hence why challenger 3 is coming. the tank fought and defo hit a mine but crew survived which is what makes nato tanks better than ruskies - crew survival
Challenger 2 is outdated junk mate, stop dick riding the propaganda.@@jrtunderground
The Challenger 2 was never rated to deal with shovels.
And hedges. Those bushes are really dangerous now that they are overgrown.
Too bad it lost the Turret Throwing competition to the Russian T-72...
@Mortablunt when I look at your videos I just confirmed my beliefs about who the people are that find shovel jokes funny. Never understimate how many mentally challenged people are out there choosing sides egging on deaths like it's a game.
@@quickschweezy Oh no, I've been roasted by a gaming shorts channel, I'm never going to recover from this!
Lazerpen1s wrote that the crew molotoved the tank LMFAO
lmfao, no crew ever would try to blow up a tank in proximity, because there is just too much shit that can fly your way after powder charges cook off.
@@iMost067 yeah... run away and order artillery strike on it or other tank doing it. on the other hand it seems ukraine always hopes they can recover and they are not doing that. also lack of tanks in general on their side.
@@iMost067 *throw Molotov on engine, run away* Do you think the tank will just implode as soon as it catches fire? 😂 I guess you’ve never heard of scuttling?? 😂
@@LewisB3217If the tank is already disabled why bother even throwing a mollotow on the engine bay tf?
@@tadejloncar so the enemy doesn’t capture it?? Have you heard of scuttling before? It’s not even a new thing lol, I mean just look at ww2, crews blew their tanks up or otherwise irreparably damaged them to make sure they wouldn’t be captured, setting them on fire, leaving tnt blocks or thermite in barrels and inside etc. I’m not saying it happened here, but it’s definitely plausible on the battlefield, esp with tech Russia doesn’t have (a western tank they’d want to capture)
If you're in a tank on a modern battle field and you suffer a direct hit and you dont suffer serious injury and are able to bail out before it catches fire you were in a good tank. There has never been an armoured vehicle in history that couldn't be knocked out
you are damn right! this Challenger's turret was displaced due to detonation, and if the crew didn't leave the vehicle beforehand, no one would have survived a direct hit from a Russian missile. so I guess you can't call the Challenger a good tank? if you want to survive in a Challenger, leave the tank BEFORE a direct hit
@@user-eg9vn3jz9y you're clearly stupid the tank was going to catch fire and was immobilized so the crew abandoned it. If the tank was no good they wouldn't have got the chance to evacuate. Just because a tank loses a turret or gets it turret partially displaced doesn't mean the crew has no chance to get out of the tank sometimes a tank is hit and the crew is able to get out before the ammo cooks off the fire and explosion doesn't happen instantly.
Uhm the Bob Semple? Please do some actual research before shouting nonsense like "there are no invincible tanks"
@@thechickenmaster6543 yeah I forgot about that unbeatable machine🤣
Even for its time the mighty cats
Another excellent video, great work Red Effect.
The best thing about this Challenger 2 story, is again the great reaction of LazerPig. Gold.
what was his reaction? i dont follow him
@@anton_melnikov He said that the crew was saved, and no one destroyed the tank, that the tank was destroyed by the Ukrinsky crew itself with a bottle of vodka )) you may ask why he came up with this story? There is no answer ...
He initially claimed it wasn't actually destroyed, just broke down. Then he claimed that it was intentionally destroyed by Ukrainians with molotov cocktails to prevent capture by Russia (even though it got destroyed behind Ukrainian lines). When asked "since when do tank crews carry molotovs?", he came up with the explanation that it was made from a bottle of vodka (vodka, inflammable because it is 60% water) that the crews carry around for sanitising their wounds. (again, anything 40% abv can hardly be used to sanitise wounds). When asked for proof or sources, he simply claimed that he used his "private sources" that he wasn't going to share, again. Now that the video proving him wrong has been released he's changing his story AGAIN and is now claiming that he was just pretending and acting dumb on purpose.@@anton_melnikov
it's like saying that the whole crew used the teapot inside the challenger 2s to make a reaction inside the tank that detonated the whole ammo stock in it lol @@user-tf4lh8oq8u
@@user-tf4lh8oq8u What's probably even more funny is that vodka is just 40% alcohol and 60% water, the only way that shit was flamable if they'd had barrel of it and get enough fumes for it to be flammable.
Challenger 2 + Kornet = British space program
That makes me think. Did british ever went to space? Do they have space program?
hahaha that was a nice one mate ahah
It should be "British Space Programme." 😐
@@MOHAMMAD_JALAL_UDDIN_RUMI no it shouldn't
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Lazerpig heard to be saying it's a moltov cocktail I think the kornet is a very advanced molotov cocktail
Lol True
Laserpig is what is truly is. A pig and no honor
I dno what pig is trying to say? Tell us the challenger cant even protect against home made molotov cocktails?
It's similar tech to the Russian shovel hypersonic missiles that they've been using for over a year (because apparently Russia ran out of missiles more than a year ago and only had shovels left 🤣)
Lazerpig is just saying dogshit all the time (that's pretty much his gimmick). I don't understand why people trust his word so much.
Here faster then lazerpig changing a subject to pretend it was always his point
I love the fact this guy has done all these graphics. When it was confirmed as a Challenger 2 yesterday.
Only when facing a small army of a country which has a small military budget and not a self-sufficient military industry, the Challenger is invincible. Otherwise, it has nothing special.
Not even small budget but effective weapons and training 😂
All small armies and irregular military have Kornets, or another ATGMs, it's a cheapest way to fight tanks. What you point?
Just like Abrams, u can send T72 to destroy a village armed with kids with AkS and then claim u have the best tank and not a single one was destroyed in battle
As someone who used to operate these things. We were never under any illusion that they were invincible, and our training/doctrine accounted for this.
@@charger6634 Irak didnt in 1991 and 2003. Irak stll had Milan 1 and HOT from the early 70´s.
Sometimes the story moves in a spiral) British tanks Mk.V in Lugansk - two British-made Mark V tanks installed as a monument to the Civil War in Lugansk. The tanks were supplied by Great Britain (allies) to the Armed Forces of Southern Russia in the spring of 1919, and then were enlisted in Wrangel's Russian Army in the Crimea. Then, as a military trophy, they fell into the hands of the Red Army after the fighting on the Kakhovsky bridgehead in the fall of 1920, where about 30 tanks out of 60 tanks that participated in the battle from the white side were more or less intact and captured by the Reds. After that, these tanks entered service in the Red Army, making up mainly the Lefortovo tank brigade.
There is one in Archangelsk, another British WW1 tank from civil war days.
It was quite nice you mentioned "help" of western "allies" in occupying and separating Russia back then. Just like "NATO wont expand" today
@@raketny_hvostthe Tsarists were the heirs to Russia. The revolutionaries destroyed Russian culture to such an extent that it hasn't fully recovered today. The internationalists doing.
@@raketny_hvost Oh no, the military alliance established to protect countries from russian attacks has "expanded" by allowing countries begging to be part of it to join! Oh the humanity! Well, sucks to be you, no attacking Finland and Sweden now. The number of plundering targets is shrinking.
@@raketny_hvosteven Gorbachev calls the deal false. What else do you have besides saying a fake deal should still be upheld with an entirely different nation. Not like NATO is forcing most of these countries either. Is it really even aggressive expansion when they join nato freely?
Your ability to recognize tanks from 5 pixels is now at completely new level X)
Thank you for your analysis
LazerPig said he had sources in Ukraine and told him that the crew set the tank on fire with a Molotov cocktail. 😂 The pig never learns.
How is this information less likely than a Russian outlet stating it was a kornet? Especially if you consider that the location is not close to the front line and that you cannot identify a kornet on the Video neither? Did you learn you shouldn’t jump to conclusions? LazerPig didn’t say it was fact, he said a Ukrainian source claimed that. RedEffect didn’t say the kornet was fact, he said a Russian source claimed it. Watch both again if you aren’t sure…
Because the video is only possible, if you have a high explosive device, not an accelerant!
Interesting fact. Factory in UK which produced Challenger II was demolished like 20 years ago. So every loss of Challenger II is kind a big deal.
Especially since they have cannibalized many tanks for spare parts to keep some of them running since the factory don't produce them anymore.
They literally made a new facility in Telford. Its where the Chally 2 is getting its Chally 3 upgrade. So no, its not a big deal, you're just ignorant 🤣
No worries, you'll get to see them in russian museum after they scrap the burnt ookrainians from the walls of these tanks.
i thought it was only the bundeswehr doing that @@zascoco6617
@@Mal101M Production at Vickers Alvis ended in the early 2000´s, production line was closed and dismantled after that. Since then for almost 20 years the UK is canibalising its fleet for spareparts
Don't bring A Challenger Tank in a Shovel Fight!!!!!!
They seem to burn better than the leopard 😮
Yea,,,,leopards are eco burned designed
Посмотрим как будет гореть абрамс
Another great video. Thanks for all you do and the detail you go into.
Why did it need detail? It's pointless when it was accepted as a Challenger 2 yesterday.
Hes a liar, the tank has blowout panels.
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@@Seth9809it doesn’t, the challenger still uses a inferior two stage ammo system, which puts the propellant charge in the crew compartment only the ammo is in blowout panels
Thanks Red!!
I thought my knowledge on tanks was fairly decent prior to following your channel, I've since been humbled and have learned a lot more but don't undervalue the level of expertise you have. I was listening to a podcast the other day from one of the most prestigious journalistic outlets in the world with a number of genuine experts in their field writing their articles. But one of their journalists focussing on Tanks was calling the Abrams the "Abraham's" and claimed the Challenger 2 had blowout panels and generalised that "Russia has only really focussed on mobility and firepower with their tanks, whereas the west has always prioritised protection". That guy used to be a tank commander as well. Fortunately another journalist corrected him on the name of the Abrams but that's basically your competition You're likely more advanced in your respective field than the VAST majority.
The major difference is, RedEffect seems to genuinely research the topic he is about to discuss. He will visit primary/secondary/tertiary sources for his information. e.g. his video about the T-90MS he checked out the formal production chains claim of how many they shipped and then calculated how many T-90MS's there roughly are. or about how he went through great lengths for his T-14 Armata video. He is genuinely a really good yt channel. I enjoy the fact he brings out (what feels like) unbiased news/information about war time vehicles.
At least cite it with the telegraph. It was called that in his basic training so the names been drilled into him that way. He wasn't trained on the chally 2 either he was a Cheiftain tanker. Your comment is rather disingenuous as you've picked and chosen what to include to suit your narrative.
This is good evidence as to why you should not take someone's credentials as a 'former tanker' as an indicator that they have serious knowledge of the topic. Soldiers are taught a level of propaganda about their opponents, to encourage them to actually fight. This depends on the country, and the state of war that they're in, but beyond that most aren't taught anything close to what subject matter experts know. They're taught things like how to safely operate the loading mechanism of the gun, or how to tension the tracks, or even at a more advanced level, how to coordinate with infantry. Another perfect example of this was a conversation I had with a Seargant from the Australian Army standing next to an M-777 he ran a crew on prior to the escalation of the war in Ukraine. He told me very matter of factly that they can (and did in combat in Afghanistan) only fire 8 rounds per day due to the risk of developing side effects from the concussion. When asked about rocket artillery as counter-battery fire, he drew an absolute blank and told me that he "had not heard of that". When your opponent has at best a man portable mortar, your world is very different to a NATO trained army facing off against the Russians.
@@antlerman7644Cope
Reminds me of a hilarious Times Radio interview with an, allegedly, experienced tank commander.
The Sky News " expert " claimed that the turret wasn't dislodged , trying to imply that it was superior to Russian tanks
It is superior, and if you think one tank getting destroyed proves me wrong then whatever
@@delsymdrinker8064 in what terms is superior?
@@dariopesic4935 Chally has better armour, optics, space, reverse speed (than most Russian tanks) and better survivability. The chally 2 is superior, not invincible.
@@delsymdrinker8064 Whether or not a cook off dislodges the turret does not indicate how good a tank is at all
@@delsymdrinker8064 No tank in Modern combat is superior to the other especially when it's peer-to peer or near peer adversaries, modern MBT's are vulnerable in modern combat more then ever before. AGTM's, A-T mines, Helicopters, Aircraft air-to ground missiles, drones etc. If you think 14 Challengers would've done anything to sway the balance of power due to them being 'superior', then look deeper then that.
"a chally is blown up...have a nice day"
RedEffect is STILL THE CHAMPION of AWESOME tank videos! Love you brother! ❤❤❤❤
I think it happened here. 47.4620, 35.8792 The view is looking West (the Kornet could have come from somewhere else). The Challenger is moving away from the Russian lines. Based on the lack of long shadows the Kornet hit is either in the mid-morning or midday. The shadows at 0:24 indicate the battle damage assessment was done in the late afternoon.
Looks like the road they were on wasn't even moving south. So all vehicles got their sides exposed. Tanks were supposed to be used off road to avoid these situations, but oh well.
@@AndrewVasirov Its the road leading to and away from Verbove. A possible senario (of many possiblities) is the Ukrainians moved up to shell positions near verbove at night and were then caught by russian artillery while withdrawing to the West. The T-64's turret is pointing forward (west). The challengers turret is pointing right (north), probably blown off to the right by ammo cook-off, so it doesn't seem like they were engaging the enemy when dissabled. The russians then wisely finished off the tanks with ATGMs to stop them being recovered.
@@AndrewVasirov off road means more anti tank mines that havent been cleared yet
Was it British article about shovels? Now i get the irony about challenger destroyed with a russian shovel. Former general of a British army (Richard Barrons) still calls Russian army "red army". He seems to live is a separate reality, as most brits
Just like the rest of the "western world".
BBC over a year ago said Russians had no ammunition and only had shovels to fight with. Thats why we mock the BBC lies, by praiseing Russian shovels.
he's likely to be a total moron like the most of the brits/americans that conduct foreign policy
Goood Job als always! Alsway the inner question: do I research my self or do I wait for RedEffect.
very informative. Thank you.
Nice piece of analysis. Thanks
Do you have any comments about Lazerpigs statement he has a source inside Ukraine who said the tank was destroyed by its own crew after being immobilised with bottle of vodka?
thx for making videos
Thanks for the great analysis.
I bet laserpig gonna say either that Challenger has been operated by Wittman or that missile was a new super weapon made by aliens or how else could an english shitbox got destroyed.(It was the tea cattle all along )
using his secret ukranian sources
Actually he already claimed it simply broke down and the Ukrainians burned it out with a molotov to prevent capture.
@@tsp312 when did he say this lmao
@@tsp312 highly suspect that the russians release the hypersonic Molotov footage just to back up his claim😂
The Ukrainians probably put an X layout engine from their museum into it secretly for reasons, which is why it broke down
Russian turrets go higher because they are lighter, superior challenger turret barely leaves the hull because it's so heavy.
It's just that there are no high-explosive shells in Challenger 2. This is in most cases a useless tank.
@@user-zz8pu5yu2x What? They use HESH - that's a High Explosive Squad Head, or in other words... A high explosive round.
maybe they just have weaker ammo, so tamer explosion xD
easier to just push back in place with a screw driver
Consider the difference between deflagration and detonation. The challenger's turret pop is consistent with the former, in short the ammo burns violently causing a high pressure inside the hull that lifts the turret off its ring, but does not explode all at once in the manner of the T-72 series under the same circumstances. This probably is due to different propellant charge formulations. Furthermore the Challenger has much larger internal volume so the pressure will build more gradually, which reduces the chances of deflagration turning into detonation.
And Lazerpig tried to say that it was a molotov done by the crew that destroyed it. Because his "trustworthy Ukrainian sources" (which he did not list nor name) told him.
Source: crack-fueled dreams
There is no such thing as a trust worthy Ukrainian source. This is a country that brought you the snake Island markers, who all lived the alleged mass rapes that turned out to be fabricated the ghost of Kyiv, who never existed the mobile crematoria that were never in country the supposed phone calls that could never be made on the networks they were intercepted from supposedly and so on. The Ukrainians are pathological liars. Are you sure the people who lie to their own populous to keep them in place so they could use them as human shields. Imagine the contempt they have for non-Ukrainian, not even Slavic people.
Did you just assume lazerpigs gender?
actually i also heard from ukraine that no challenger or abrams is to be captured and put on display in red square so crews under orders to scuttle the tank if any chance it can be captured
Very good Analysis :) thanks for the info
Abrams: wait what, we were just looking around...
*Russian tanks destroyed* People: Hah inferior design *western tank destroyed* People: eh no tank is invicible
literally no one but propogandists are calling them invincible
Those are not mutually exclusive.
bro over 1900 russians junk tanks have been violated and yea no tank is invicible
I mean, tanks are not super weapons. Plently of advanced western and Russian tanks have been knocked out during this war. T-90Ms have been knocked out just like Leopard 2s. Tanks are some of the tools to win wars but they are not the only deciding factor. Really wish Putin and Zelensky would just go to a boxing ring and square it out already.
@@jacob-lf4id Yes because russian tanks are employed in large numbers..large numbers=larger casualties same vice versa
Russia will have to construct a new wing onto their tank museum very soon
I mean, Challenger 2 kinda does belong in a museum to be brutally honest. Multi-part ammunition and a rifled gun in 2020? ^^"
Trust me on this, they never capturing that Tank. My source? Ukrainian artillery.
Ukraine will have to invade a Russian oblast to have space to put all the destroyed Russian tanks.
challenger 2 is a "modern" tank though, it got introduced in 1994. Leopard 2 is from 1978, abrams from 1980. challenger 2 is simply a failed modern design which got really overhyped because it fought sandal wearing ahmeds with kalashnikovs for 33years without one being lost@@whitescar2
@@chrisbacon3071I remember that exact same claim being made about every tank/IFV that they are currently exhibiting
Very good reporting.
When will the bits be on sale on Ebay ?
Great job in a non-biased video, and simply stating the facts.
Me too. I just subbed. To me this is not some exciting game of football. I am not barracking or wearing a colorfull hat. I just want to know what is really going on.
When I watch these videos where you analyse 77p quality videos I just imagine you sitting at your desk at a 27'' monitor and using a magnifying glass in one hand to examine each pixel. :)
Can you make a t44 or bmpt video?
The tank hatch was blown away .... which means it was locked and closed ..... which in turns mean that crew was inside 🙄
yes because it only has 1 hatch. they removed 1 hatch before sending them so you could feel intelligent.
I love how everyone is trolling lazerpig after this, this is only a single tank but Ukraine and the UK have a very limited amount of those. The excuses of the Ukranians missusing the tank, and claims that this is a "sniper tank" not meant to be used like that are just cope. This is the same environment all those Soviet tanks are being destroyed, it wasnt hard to imagine that the Challenger has nothing special to survive against the multiple threats. Every single tank in active service can be used from long range to "snipe" enemy tanks, the problem arises when the tank has to be used offensively. About the crew, they probably werent the most experienced tankers on the specific vehicle but this is far from being their fault. The loss of the tank was a result of the multiple threats, not missuse by the crew or commanders.
We can make more of them. Dont worry. Lmao.
I hate the copium because its honestly cynical and absolutely a mark of garbage people. "russians killed" they literally cheer and masturbate over this, not a single thought to their humanity. Any atrocity by ukraine - ignored. Ukranians killed or lose equipment - cope + muh heroes. Few people if any are capable of witnessing what is effectively the genocide of ukrainians by their own government using unfortunate soldiers or Russia, and Russia probably making huge money. PS: ive seen videos of people cheering on the literal bombing of invcapacitated wounded russians, or their execution by drones when surrendering / by grenades/ by baiting them out telling them "surrender" so they do and they get shot. And the comments literally cheer this on.
" and the UK have a very limited amount of those." And are beyoned cheapskate government won't even bother replacing them.
No tank is invincible. This CR2 was operating without its add-on armour package - the British Army would not have sent a CR2 without the TES package into a battle like this. All the crew survived, which is good.
you can be the best tank crew in the world in the best tank in the world and you'll still die on a battlefield where you are being shot at simultaneously from all directions by three various types of weapons designed to destroy you.
Brits: Ukraine? Did I give you the best tanks we have? Ukraine: Yes Brits: Then where are they? Ukraine: They had too many shovels!
They did gave only 1 challenger? 😂
@@johnweak6788 Yeah, they though 1 challenger would easily destroy the entire Russian army.
14 actually, but initially planned 28@@johnweak6788
@@johnweak6788 well 14 but lets do a countdown: 13,12,11...
@@vadencium1615 no, let's count down russian tanks, 2145
What is the outro music? Also, what was the previous outro music?
Keep up the good work
Thank you for your research and analysis. Also shout out to the community of commenters on the channel. Majority of comments are interesting, add helpful context, and are respectful.
It was much more difficult to destroy a tank during the ww2 than now, now even the actual heavyest tank could be destroyed by a single shot
У вас есть возможность попробовать уничтожить танк. 😁 Попробуйте и сообщите нам, насколькои это было легко.
@@user-hk6te6gc8j everyone has the different types of ammunition to take down a tank but back then technology was hard , the T34 was one of if not the best tank in world war 2 and it was also the fact that the germans did not have the strength on the panzer to penetrate the armour of the T34 as the slope technology was farelly new
@@brunobitcharratithe prose of war is radically different from what you see in the spectacular videos. Existing tanks are extremely protected combat units and it is much harder to hit them than it seems to you watching the videos. To begin with, you need to get into the tank with anti-tank weapons, this is not an easy task. The hit must be in a certain place, at a certain angle, in order to cause significant damage. And even the penetration of armor does not guarantee its incapacitation or destruction. Therefore, the real percentage of the effectiveness of anti-tank weapons, whether RPG 7 or Javelin, is 2-3% for T-90M, 12-15% for T-72B3, 25-30% for T-72A, B, T-64. My friend's tankman's record is 18 hits in his tank in one battle. My friend is alive! There are few videos posted online where the shooter misses, you won't get a like😁 there is a video where tanks withstand a hit, even Javelin. But most of the likes are collected by tower flights.😏
@@user-hk6te6gc8j there is different armour technologies too, many country have different approach to how they want to fortify their tank and its future models
I'm not sure how you could draw that conclusion since somewhere around 40 to 50,000 tanks were destroyed in WW2.
I’ve got on good authority that a “charge bag” was put in backwards and blew the turret off the ring - world of tanks player confirmed it for me who did a few weeks of basic training
It’s a metal box on wheels “I assure you it can sink”
Great info. Thanks. I didn't know that Challenger didn't have its ammo behind blast doors.
Me neither. I thought it was common to all Western tanks. So what's in the bustle then?
@@ald1144 More Ammunition. Challenger 2 and the T-72, T-80s, I think the T-90s (m) and Leopard 2 to a degree in the hull suffer from having Ammunition in the crew compartments and I mean the crew compartments as in the T-72 it isn't the Ammunition in the Autoloader that gets hit and blows up its the Ammunition that's literally above the Autoloader and around both the commander and gunner. For challenger 2 it's the more or less unprotected Ammunition that's more exposed then the T-72 in the hull and turret
@@theoriginalcornisgood2.0 Thank you. Very interesting; trying to cram in more ready ammunition was likely why there 'was something wrong with their bloody ships' at Jutland, to paraphrase Admiral Beatty after two of his battle cruisers blew up after only a few hits.
@@ald1144 cramming in ammunition till it's full seems to be something that's very british
The ammo situation is more complex, Challenger uses 2 part ammo generally the turret is full of rounds that are less/not explosive. The charge bags, which are the most explosive part of the munition, are kept in the hull. This should mean in a hull down position you have little to no risk of ammo detonation. As for cramming in as much ammo, it doesn't actually have that many rounds comparatively. It's an average amount of ammo for a tank.
Cheers red honestly one of the best for a neutral honest update or info on tanks of every nation stay safe big man.
Man he's good for checking your biases but he's no means neutral
@@antlerman7644 soo who does is he favouring???
@@modeltankswithspartan0866You only have to see his uploads that he most likely favors Russia. But at least he's no lazerpig, actually gives out sources and doesn't make shit up.
@@adambrande i don't feel favours Russian Tanks but everyone has right to opinion, but yes he's factual and tells it like it is.
The Challenger 2 touted to be the most uncrackable Western tank, destroyed by a Kornet .How would the M1A1 Abrams gonna fare better is hard to think now
Especially with its downgraded armor.
The thing is mate it's a regular challenger 2 it has no Dorchester armour package on it or anything else
@@thomasdavies7592 Dorchester armor a.k.a. Chobham armor is still present on the Challenger 2s sent to Ukraine.
@@thomasdavies7592 Doesn't matter especially about how it was taken out, its not only Kornet but also mines and artillery
M1 Abrams ain't gonna fare better because they'll end up shooting each other
There's images that show the track off the tank, possibly going over a mine. And looks like they attempted to recover it, causing the loss of more equipment
Leopard 2 was a game changer, now Challenger 2
So far Ukraine is advancing. The video wasn’t made by Russians but Ukrainians driving slow speed in a civilian car. Nothing you’d normally do close to a contested frontline…
@@Grimshak81your comment is based on your opinion right? It's not based on facts.
Mobility kills will rapidly turn into catastrophic kills in the battlefield unless you are successfully advancing at pace and can secure the battlefield in minutes. There's nothing here which makes me think less of the challenger 2 or the Ukrainian army. Anyone objective already knew that C2 was not invincible. And expecting the supporting arms (artillery + infantry) to suppress modern low signature precision ATGMs out to their entire engagement 5kms + range for a period of more than an hour is asking far too much. There aren't any systems that would survive a mobility kills in the front line. Even a Abrams or Merkava with an active protection system will not have an infinite magazine depth sat immobile in a minefield. At the moment the most decisive weapons system of this war appears to be the TM-62 tank mine.
It's Soviet cleaning robot*
Meanwhile NAFO sources were claiming that C2's would sweep through Putin's troops and showed footage of it going through dragon teeth defences which their catatonic fascist supporting population ate up. Now that reality has proven that the C2 is a paper tiger all of a sudden people are brining out the "not invincible card" it didn't even get a chance to get anywhere near the frontline before getting clapped.
The only reason why it's talked about is because it's written on the site of British Ministry of Defense that "it was never destroyed!". Ofc it wasn't destroyed - it wasn't used in a real war before!
@@ImperativeGames It was used in a real war before, the difference was that the West was actually fighting that real war and enjoyed air supremacy.
@@TheFiretonic Yeah, and also the fact that there weren't really any modern AT weapons avaliable to their enemies. Still, no modern MBT is that well protected from the sides and rear anyways, so even older weapons can take out a tank if you get a good angle, but I guess the western forces were so overpowering that they were rarely or never in such an unfortunate position.
Red effects’ mouth watering. Been waiting for a chally to get knocked out all war
good video !!! Thank you
If the cupola was blown completely off then it suggests that the cupola was closed when the explosion happened. This then suggests that it is quite possible that the crew did not abandon the tank in the way they would like us to believe. It is commonly said now that the great thing about western armour never was that they were so hard to destroy but rather its survivability unlike the dreadful Russian tanks.
Correction: Soviet Tanks, which the Ukrainians also field. Technically, there are no fielded Russian Tanks. Even T-90 was designed in the Soviet era.
The problem of Russian tank's cook-off is their advantage - using of HE shells.
Cant the tank be immobilized by a mine or artillery bombardment, the crew abandon the tank, later the tank is hit again by somthing big, and suffer massive damage. The tank was not moving then we see the explosion.
Good point i could imagine that the hatch might have fallen shut when hit and then when the ammo went boom it made enough pressure to rip it out whilst being shut but not locked in place. Anyways as already said great thinking.
they closed the door behind them so that rain would not get inside later.
The tank detective strikes again.
i've been wondering how powerful lancet warhead is. i have heard its equivalent with rpg-7's but it seems its stronger than that
the lancet 3 has a 5.5 kg tandem warhead or 6 kg thermobaric warhead
Thank you for the breakdown, bound to happen in peer to peer conflict. Just goes to show how times have changed but, tanks have always been vulnerable and more so these days. It does show that the newer designs such as the Abrahams are really on the money with the blowout panels. Not just crew survivability but much less damage to the turret and hull. Which means that there is a possibility that the vehicle can be recovered and refitted so long as it has not burnt out. War is qualitive but mostly quantitative. Both sides are making sure with multiple hits on abandoned equipment, they are down to 13 of these. Probably less with servicing factored in.
Russian just attack tank 3 times Anti is burnt
Its not a breakdown, its lies. It has blowout panels.
@@Seth9809 that's not what breakdown means in this context. Breakdown here means analysis.
I doubt that there is at least some kind of economic feasibility to restore a burned-out tank. It still needs to change everything. In addition, the steel of the case loses its characteristics with such strong heating. Cheaper to make a new one. In the west, some kind of mania began about the tank turrets, as if the only possibility of the death of the crew was the detonation of ammunition. In fact, there is much more chance of dying during the evacuation from the tank under fire, or from fragments that penetrated the tank, than the fact that the automatic loader located at the very bottom of the tank hull will be hit.
@@Seth9809Challenger 2 doesn't have blow-out panels.
Love your coverage
Ça fait plaisir de voir ça et ce n'est que le premier d'une longue série qui va exploser
Russian anti-tank missiles, aviation, smart projectiles krasnopol- will destroy any equipment of any country .... hundreds of armored burned-out vehicles from Germany, England, the USA, Spain, France are standing in the field ... NATO equipment burns very well ... Russia showed this around the world.
Well that answers my previous question.
There is no secondary explosion or fire from the missile impact so it's likely that isn't what killed it in the end. The Russians themselves said it burnt for days so it's hard to place the time of the Ukrainian drive past video. The images of the tank once it's finished burning show a deep crater just behind the tank which would support either one of the artillery or mine strike stories. I think there's a reason the Russians didn't upload a longer video and its because Kornet failed to have much effect, at least from that firing. The turret being rotated 90' for the driver to escape would also indicate that the tank was unoccupied.
Pretty effective russian millitary issued shovels I might add !
B-but Hamish assured me confidently that as Challenger 2 Commander it'd send Putin's conscripts running!
Whats funny is no conscripts here.