Why Are Classic Pokémon Games Not On Switch?

2024 ж. 16 Ақп.
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Where in the world are the retro Pokemon games? It's been so long since NSO launched on the Switch and we still haven't managed to see even Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow on the platform. Now that the 3DS and Wii U eShops are shut down, there's no way we can buy these legally anymore.
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  • What’s your favorite Pokemon game? Comment below! ❤

    @JacobCruise@JacobCruiseАй бұрын
    • palworld

      @payne3133@payne3133Ай бұрын
    • @@payne3133 Why

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruiseАй бұрын
    • @@JacobCruise BD is a lot of fun, just started Legends Arceus and im enjoying that a lot too. But my fav would probably be Soul Silver

      @ContentCreature@ContentCreatureАй бұрын
    • HGSS ez. But nearly every game from gen 1-5 are good so it's hard to rank #2-5. But HGSS is 100% #1 for me.

      @tetsushinjou6456@tetsushinjou6456Ай бұрын
    • Crystal

      @GreekSouvlakiFtw@GreekSouvlakiFtwАй бұрын
  • short answer: nintendo sucks

    @gabriele433@gabriele4332 ай бұрын
    • Lol

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise2 ай бұрын
    • Nintendo only owns 1/3 of Pokemon. I’m sure Nintendo wants the old games on their system but The Pokemon Company doesn’t.

      @letsmakepancakes3@letsmakepancakes32 ай бұрын
    • I wonder if TPCI investor reports might have more info 🤔

      @Shogun_A.I.@Shogun_A.I.Ай бұрын
    • True

      @huynghiepdu@huynghiepduАй бұрын
    • It’s game freak’s decision. Can’t blame daddy nintendo on this one regardless of how much they suck

      @parkerbrandner9428@parkerbrandner9428Ай бұрын
  • so that they can sell you the eventual remakes for full price 70$

    @kephalai@kephalai2 ай бұрын
    • yes

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise2 ай бұрын
    • With half as much content and subpar graphics (not including DLC)

      @jokerpilled2535@jokerpilled25352 ай бұрын
    • They are on the switch, u need the 3.99 live to play the old school Pokémon game. I don’t even own a switch yet and haven’t barely played any Pokémon and I learned this already in a few days of research

      @TheWalkThrewer@TheWalkThrewer2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@jokerpilled2535and even more bugs but not the type

      @miguelcrafter2997@miguelcrafter2997Ай бұрын
    • If at least they remade those games… as a kid I missed in particular Gen 2. Ended up buying a second hand DS just to play Soulsilver (even if that’s already a remake). Thanks for nothing, Nintendo

      @alvaropalomoh@alvaropalomohАй бұрын
  • Because GameFreak don't want people playing 25 year old games and realizing they have more fun with them than they do with the latest titles on Switch.

    @Galo994@Galo994Ай бұрын
    • Seems more likely that they have no reason to release them. You got the Game Boy games so you could transfer easily. Until you stop being able to there is no reason to put them on Switch

      @mrbubbles6468@mrbubbles646822 күн бұрын
    • Lol this is true.

      @ltdzinger@ltdzinger19 күн бұрын
    • ​@@ltdzingerbecause Pokemons the only game with that capability 🙄 nintendo fan boys will always play the new stuff cuz its new, they will suck off whatever nintendo puts out and not care about the classics

      @colinmarch30@colinmarch3019 күн бұрын
    • Well if they would've made pokemon scarlet and violet less buggy and not rush it, or even release their pokemon classic collection on the switch, they wouldn't have this problem.

      @NeosparkJ80@NeosparkJ8019 күн бұрын
    • @@mrbubbles6468and you think anyone who played the old games still have there cartridges? :´)

      @MedokaLightning@MedokaLightning7 күн бұрын
  • I'm so happy I still have all my old Pokemon games and orginal hardware. But it is terrible there aren't easy ways for the fans who don't, to play them. New fans are missing out on not only great games but also pieces of Pokemon history.

    @ilovegarradors@ilovegarradors2 ай бұрын
    • just lol at you claiming that people dont have a way to play them when pretty much everyone play them on emulators on their phone

      @GamingPlanet2077@GamingPlanet20772 ай бұрын
    • @@GamingPlanet2077 but not everyone is that smart, there are still people that don't understand what even an emulator is or just don't want to emulate it. And why on a phone? Without buttons it just feels wrong af. A BT controller for this screen makes no sense either xD

      @adrenaliner91@adrenaliner912 ай бұрын
    • @ilovegarradors the problem is they will die sooner or later. First the batteries of the first three generations and then the rest even faster than a disc rot of a GameCube disc could be happening (and that's really often, especially with NTSC-U games)

      @adrenaliner91@adrenaliner912 ай бұрын
    • @@adrenaliner91 Not only on their phone, on the pc as well, no need to be smart, just open the emulator and load the game

      @GamingPlanet2077@GamingPlanet20772 ай бұрын
    • @@GamingPlanet2077 haha you overestimate most people. Those who just can turn their machine on and maybe write a word document and write an e-mail still don't know how to install a program, let alone load a rom or find one.

      @adrenaliner91@adrenaliner912 ай бұрын
  • Greed is truly something else

    @blue_wolfproductions12@blue_wolfproductions122 ай бұрын
    • Nintendo deaerves another Wii U era to make them humble again and not so money hungry. Too much success is bad for the company culture.

      @HAFBeast91@HAFBeast91Ай бұрын
    • So painful to go on the nintendo store and look at a $120 bundle for scarlet/violet like bruh im not gonna buy both lmao

      @Jaymo00@Jaymo0028 күн бұрын
    • If it was greed wouldn't they just re-release a bunch of Pokémon

      @keithflippers4429@keithflippers44298 күн бұрын
  • The 3DS versions of Gen 1&2 had the savestates and rewind disabled so that could absolutely do it the save way on the switch.

    @doopness785@doopness78514 күн бұрын
  • To be fair, if they hadn't built up such bad will with the new games then the "Awesome classic releases might take away from modern sales." idea wouldn't be a worry. Also, I personally really love the idea of keeping every Pokémon I care about and grow attached to. If they don't allow me to transfer up a Shiny Rattata I find and I have to just delete it for a new file then it's a No Purchase from me.

    @Mage_Nichlas_@Mage_Nichlas_2 ай бұрын
    • Dude, it’s not a worry anyway? Just why release a port for next to nothing when you can revamp the game and sell it for full price. There isn’t as bad a reputation as you think.

      @mrbubbles6468@mrbubbles646822 күн бұрын
    • @@mrbubbles6468 revamping would probably take more effort. It's very likely we're getting gen 5 remakes and so on so fourth leaving gen 2 out of the picture. The older gameboy games will likely return once they shut bank down.

      @alienxotic5028@alienxotic502821 күн бұрын
    • I think the idea of "classic games take away sales from modern games" is probably also a thing Nintendo believes in, which is why they use the NSO releases as filler.

      @LG555@LG55520 күн бұрын
    • Pokémon games still sell extremely well, like the drop in quality hasn’t really effected them at all. Sw/Sh and S/V are both in the top 10 selling switch games of the consoles lifespan, also Lets Go, BD/SP, and Legends are all in the top 15.

      @bigsoulja73@bigsoulja7317 күн бұрын
    • @@mrbubbles6468 🤓

      @aaisusgamingchannel@aaisusgamingchannel5 күн бұрын
  • In fairness, BDSP was likely not meant to be a thing. They were pretty slap-dashed together because more time was going to be needed for Legends Arceus, but it does still run back to the point that the remakes were meant to be a holiday release to make sure they could get money from that big rush of sales. That said I don't actually think retro games rereleased on Switch would even hurt modern sales. The Virtual Console releases of Gen 1 and 2 sold relatively well for what they were but nowhere near the sales of the actual 3DS mainline titles. I *would* like RBY and GSC on NSO though, specifically because it's been shown you can connect them to Stadium on NSO through unofficial means and it would be great to have that connectivity again.

    @AzureFlute@AzureFlute2 ай бұрын
    • yes.

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise2 ай бұрын
    • I wouldn't even buy the current generation, the last one was Sword and I feel even that was better than that thing now. I don't like digital games but I would buy the older Pokémon games without a doubt. So, it wouldn't even not hurt the sales it would generate new sales. The current gen already hurts itself imo.

      @adrenaliner91@adrenaliner912 ай бұрын
    • They could have slapped together a 3 game "collection" with 3 versions inside: Red/Gold/Ruby, Blue/Silver/Sapphire, Yellow/Crystal/Emerald released it physical for 60 bucks each and they would have tremendously outsold bdsp for a fraction of the work while bringing something "new" to the fans as we still haven't had a port of the gba tittles.

      @cloudwalker9572@cloudwalker9572Ай бұрын
    • @cloudwalker9572 No 20 dollars each with a 60-dollar bundle containing all 3 collections with Pokemon home compatibility

      @trashboat5388@trashboat538829 күн бұрын
    • @@trashboat5388 nah you are not greedy enough. I would love it but let's be honest it's TPC

      @cloudwalker9572@cloudwalker957229 күн бұрын
  • I’m glad you made this video, we were talking about this during your livestream chat and it really puts into perspective Nintendo’s current meta and how the OG Pokémon fans should move forward instead of hoping Nintendo gives us what we want. As long as they don’t start copyrighting emulated games, there shouldn’t be a big issue. We just need to make it more easily accessible and convenient to play classic games.

    @jokerpilled2535@jokerpilled25352 ай бұрын
    • yes!

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise2 ай бұрын
    • You should move foward. Stop asking for remakes of your childhood. It’s literally because of OG fans wanting nothing but that Gen 5 undersold and was hated which directly led to every issues you have now. And despite that the only isdue people bring up is BDSP, which was, again, something you asked for. We could do with realising what we are asking for has brought nothing good

      @mrbubbles6468@mrbubbles646822 күн бұрын
    • True

      @JohtoMaster_Gold@JohtoMaster_Gold18 күн бұрын
  • Because if you could catch certain legendaries in them they wouldn't sell you DLC that's only purpose is making them available.

    @GalcianBTH@GalcianBTHАй бұрын
    • That makes 0 sense, the legendarys are available in basically every single switch game.

      @alucard8433@alucard843346 минут бұрын
  • I mean, transferring Pokémon from older games to Pokémon Home isn’t impossible. We could transfer Pokémon from the Gen 1/2 games to Pokémon Bank back in the day.

    @pokeman260@pokeman2602 ай бұрын
    • You still can. Which is likely why the old games have not come to NSO yet.

      @mrbubbles6468@mrbubbles646822 күн бұрын
    • @@mrbubbles6468 They just shut down 3DS online, So unless you already had a 3ds with Pokemon bank downloaded you can no longer do that without hacking the 3ds and downloading it off a program that is illegal.

      @alucard8433@alucard843348 минут бұрын
  • Well, time to emulate!

    @champcee7@champcee7Ай бұрын
    • Steam deck with Emudeck runs games better than the official hardware anyways

      @FlyThrone74@FlyThrone74Ай бұрын
  • I mean, DPPT EShop release that's sold for like 5 million copies and sold for 15-20 bucks each, or two brand new games that's sold for 30 million copies in total for 60 bucks each It's just too simple to answer this question Look up VC releases of RBGY and GSC if you think that I'm underestimating things

    @minislayer3241@minislayer32412 ай бұрын
    • DPPT was already playable on the 3DS, so tbf, was kinda a stupid decision to release it on the ESHop though if you look at BDSP instead, and how much they sold despite being bad remakes, we can only assume how it would sell if they made it good games >.>

      @hypario@hyparioАй бұрын
  • My cope is that they're waiting as long as possible to release them on the eShop, that way they maximize profits. If they release them too early, people will be busy with those and take away attention/sales from the mainline games. However, the way they released them on 3DS was Gen 1 eight months before the switch was announced, and then Gen 2 six months after it had launched. They're banking that the majority of people that'll buy it are the hardcore fans that'll buy it regardless of when they release it (which would probably be right). With 2024 being late into the switch's lifespan and all of the Scarlet and Violet DLC being finished, I think this coming Presents is a great time to announce them coming to either eShop or NSO over the next year or so.

    @yesntbrenda@yesntbrenda2 ай бұрын
  • I’d love to see a Let’s Go version of Gold/Silver. Gold/silver/crystal were my absolute favorites in the series.

    @joshuaowens570@joshuaowens570Ай бұрын
    • yes but with traditional battling mechanics and the capturing like GO

      @BasedMace@BasedMace5 күн бұрын
  • yo where is that goldenrod city border from?

    @koozbot@koozbot2 ай бұрын
    • official Nintendo trailer for Pokémon gold silver crystal 3DS port

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise2 ай бұрын
  • I hate all the pokemon games on switch, this time will be remembered as the "Dark age of Pokemon"

    @codingjhames@codingjhames2 ай бұрын
    • Well, I don’t know if it’s it THAT bad

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise2 ай бұрын
    • @@JacobCruise remember, if says "Dark age" is Bad

      @codingjhames@codingjhames2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@JacobCruise High quantity doesn't necessarily mean high quality.

      @UnwantedGhost1-anz25@UnwantedGhost1-anz252 ай бұрын
    • legends arceus was really good tho

      @twaffelz@twaffelz2 ай бұрын
    • @@twaffelz personally I don't liked 😥

      @codingjhames@codingjhames2 ай бұрын
  • I think it would be very simple to make it work by disabling rewind and only allowing you to save manually

    @aidandrury9542@aidandrury95422 ай бұрын
    • And I'm fine with that. Rewind, while handy for farming/grinding and getting out of impossible situations, is fairly pointless if you save before progressing, after a tough fight or after getting a coveted item. I save lots- and often, so I don't ever see the need to use that kind of feature.

      @MLPIceberg@MLPIcebergАй бұрын
  • One thing is that even tho the pokemon ip is shared by the 3 companies, nintendo is a big share holder of both gamefreak and creatures inc, so if they really wanted they could add them to nso at any time

    @sakhiy@sakhiy2 ай бұрын
  • 5:46 WOOOO i feel represented

    @pancake891@pancake89122 күн бұрын
  • I feel like at the very least they could add gen 1 and maybe gen 2 games. It could be a way to reinvigorate interest in the series and provide a simple way for new generations to experience the games. Plus, people could trade and battle without having to buy a link cable.

    @lethalinjection145@lethalinjection1452 ай бұрын
    • Make them compatible with the emulator in the stadium games too. And left players transfer their parties in.

      @Tophadoodledoo@TophadoodledooАй бұрын
    • They did. It was Lets Go. It worked just fine at doing that as well. Fact is games take time to make

      @mrbubbles6468@mrbubbles646822 күн бұрын
    • @@mrbubbles6468 remakes shouldn’t exist solely as a way to play the game on a newer console. They need a purpose. Besides, they wouldn’t be making anything. It would probably take like two seconds to port Pokémon red and blue on NSO

      @lethalinjection145@lethalinjection14521 күн бұрын
  • Also, the 3DS pokemon ports don't have rewind or save states, and that fixes the issue with exploitation.

    @wunder4402@wunder4402Ай бұрын
  • Does anyone know the Name of the theme in the beginning ?

    @draggy725@draggy72512 күн бұрын
  • I never thought of that... Makes a whole lot of sense 😢

    @KurtzFrayless@KurtzFraylessАй бұрын
  • The optimist in me hopes that they’re waiting to announce them for the Switch 2. The realist in me knows they haven’t and they won’t because money from new, rushed, soulless remakes is what makes more money.

    @Tristan_Shuler@Tristan_Shuler2 ай бұрын
    • I mean, the fans asked for those ‘souless’ remakes. And the only example of that is BDSP and we are only saying they lack soul due to bugs. Not because they actually lack soul.

      @mrbubbles6468@mrbubbles646822 күн бұрын
  • Your brought up some really good points, this is some underrated content, keep it up!

    @Tropix_02@Tropix_0212 күн бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise11 күн бұрын
  • It this point I’d be more excited for ports of the old games more so than the new games or remakes themselves. I do wonder how much work adding a trading system (preferably Gen 6’s system) and Pokémon Home compatibility would be.

    @_GuestFive@_GuestFiveАй бұрын
  • It may be also that they want to have working Pokemon trading and multiplayer battles, but they have issues getting it work within NSO.

    @UltimatePerfection@UltimatePerfectionАй бұрын
  • Great conversation here. It really worries me that they've begun signaling to users that Transporter and Bank are invetiably going to be discontinued applications. I fear sooner than later. They are only thing keeping us connected to the Nintendo DS era (including Virutal Console), and by greater extension, the GBA+Gamecube era via Pal Park and other methods. It's annoying to think that without new virtual ports, it will be impossible to source a HOME living dex from the original Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh, and Unova. Even though old hardware has shown us that it's possible, I sadly can't see them being bother to both give us back these games and make them HOME compatible.

    @MrBISHOP826@MrBISHOP8262 ай бұрын
    • They obviously will do though eventually.

      @mrbubbles6468@mrbubbles646822 күн бұрын
  • I just started playing the fan games and other than keeping some bizarre choices from the original games, I am having a blast with them.

    @steven20653@steven2065318 күн бұрын
  • Good video and interesing points but what about the Casino ? During the 4th generation a topic around game addiction in video games appeared in the European Union, it affected Pokémon in the way that while Diamond/Pearl had an operational casino, Platinium did not and HeartGold/SoulSilver got the Voltorb Flip game (at least in Europe). After this no more functional Casino in Pokémon games anymore... Maybe it has an impact as why we did not see these games (during the release on 3DS Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver and Cristal got a Pegi number higher than usual).

    @Eclipse-kf7eq@Eclipse-kf7eq18 күн бұрын
  • What’s the music starting at 1:57?

    @iwanttoboxing@iwanttoboxingАй бұрын
    • Lake theme - Pokémon BDSP

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruiseАй бұрын
  • It’s obviously so they can sell us them in a “classic Pokemon” bundle or something.

    @Goremejy@GoremejyАй бұрын
  • why arent the pokemon pinball games on gameboy NSO app tho lol

    @feIon@feIonАй бұрын
  • I think that they're just saving them for this year because of last year they had the DLC and and if they also announced at that last year present the Game Boy games on Game Boy online it would effect the sales of the DLC so I think that they were just waiting for the DLC to get its sales and for 2024 we will get the Game Boy games

    @user-hq2ce6gq2f@user-hq2ce6gq2f2 ай бұрын
    • I hope so

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise2 ай бұрын
  • wish they would bring them to switch if they did something like Super Mario 3D All-Stars with pokemon old games i would buy it

    @cody_king1994@cody_king19942 ай бұрын
  • My theory is Game Freak/ILCA can't figure out how to make them compatible with Pokémon Home

    @MysteryLJ@MysteryLJ21 күн бұрын
  • They could be saving them for 30th anni like they did for the 20th on 3DS, but also Nintendo hasn’t treated their eshop the same. Old games are relegated to NSO, while the eshop gets remakes and remasters and bundle collections but I can’t think of just an old title on its own being resold, so the Switch’s treatment of old games has changed. And with how underwhelmingly profitable old games are when made legally available, I dont think Nintendo feels any warrant to push them out faster. They’d be nice as a consumer even if I still own my old cartridges and a DS to play them on, but from the business side, they probably think its better served as a celebration release than just an addition to the market.

    @JRPOGM@JRPOGM2 ай бұрын
    • This makes sense

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise2 ай бұрын
  • They're going to resale it at some point like how they did Gen 1&2 on the 3ds

    @SmittyMacJones@SmittyMacJones4 күн бұрын
  • I believe they are saving it for the 30th anniversary. That would be the best way to give us a master collection of most, if not all of the hand held games that currently are not accessible in the Switch. And it would give them time to plan for the compatibility of the master collection of the old games with Pokémon Home and other potential Pokémon projects they might be working on for the Switch 2.

    @danieldishon688@danieldishon68821 күн бұрын
  • Even thought I love Pokemon I just bought a rg35 xx plus emulator to play the old Pokemon games. A game series I want on the switch is the Yo Kai Watch series since the first game got a remaster in Japan and only Japan.

    @sadoonlittle@sadoonlittleАй бұрын
  • You have a point, but look at it this way they still can come out with them on switch. The pokemon home has quest to have pokemon from older games and now with ds servers shut down only way we could complete it is modding or forced to buy them again on switch

    @zombiepetmonkeyofficial@zombiepetmonkeyofficial18 күн бұрын
  • I already purchased gold silver yellow blue I’m not rebuying for a new console

    @Drop0sauce@Drop0sauce18 күн бұрын
  • Someone needs to come up with a mod that connects a GB/GBA cart reader to the Switch USB C port or Switch cart reader, allowing the Switch OS to recognise and run the carts.

    @TwinFlyDSW@TwinFlyDSW16 күн бұрын
  • I think the reason for it is both cloud saving and the fact that nso has save states and rewind functions which could lead to way too easy rng manipulations and a flood of cloned mons. i highly doubt we will get it on nso it would be more likely to get it on a seperate emulator that doesnt have rewind or cloud saving

    @keoplays167@keoplays16719 күн бұрын
  • I think we just need to wait it will come at some point but I wouldn’t be surprised if had to pay to use Pokémon home to vc

    @Liokid20@Liokid20Ай бұрын
  • I’m not a huge fan of emulation, so I’m glad I already have a game from most of the regions. I just bought an authentic copy of Emerald yesterday. I’m now just missing gen 1, 2, and 4.

    @manslug1345@manslug13452 ай бұрын
    • 2 or 3 years ago, I scowered ebay and eventually got an authentic copy of every mainline Pokemon game(both/all versions of each gen) going back to Pokemon Red/Blue all the way up to UltraSun/UltraMoon. They weren't cheap even a few years ago but nowadays half of them are nearly expensive as a new AAA title and last time I check Black/White were the price of 2x AAA games. I got all their respective consoles too(the ones I was missing anyways) got flash chips or modded some of the systems, ripped the roms and store them on my server for emulation.

      @m.devellis@m.devellisАй бұрын
    • A copy of emerald? Rip your wallet mate, awesome game but it's so expensive nowadays.

      @cloudwalker9572@cloudwalker9572Ай бұрын
    • @@cloudwalker9572 yeah, it really is

      @manslug1345@manslug1345Ай бұрын
    • @@cloudwalker9572 Yeah, I was in my local used media shop and found a copy of Ruby I think that was going for like 90 bucks. Thank god I still have my Emerald.

      @chasemathis2016@chasemathis201624 күн бұрын
  • Vimms lair is OP lol

    @Travis_DeGee@Travis_DeGee2 ай бұрын
  • The way I would suggest going about the gen 3 games is to sell each one and for the mythical events a dlc

    @Rfl-ff7mj@Rfl-ff7mjАй бұрын
    • DLC noooooo 😭😭

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruiseАй бұрын
    • @@JacobCruise it won’t be too bad, my interpretation is like a 2 or 3 dollar dlc where you get the event tickets

      @Rfl-ff7mj@Rfl-ff7mjАй бұрын
  • What if we end up getting an ultimate pokemon retro collection from Game Freak for one of their anniversaries or something. A collection that would have all of the old games up to ds and has a monthly/annual subscription. This would solve the rewind and glitch problems if handled correctly, plus they could have compatibility with home if they wanted to.

    @ultrazombieYT@ultrazombieYTАй бұрын
  • indeed im already taking it into my own hands with my practice and firered tails fan game work in progress Tails Pokemon Adventure and Firsty his female vulpix companion!

    @tails_the_god@tails_the_god13 күн бұрын
  • I did buy an anniversary game pack if they had all the games in one

    @user-id2mt3ry2b@user-id2mt3ry2bАй бұрын
  • They sold them for 10 bucks red blue and yellow for awhile on the eshop I just found my old switch lite and realized I did T have my paid download of blue version and was like wtf so I came here to see why I can’t find it again and buy it if I had to. I’m so upset I was so excited to replay old Pokémon on my switch again

    @kellyroyal9579@kellyroyal957924 күн бұрын
  • U can even play old school pokemon with multiplayer with PokeMMO available on ios, android, pc, and Mac it's awesome!

    @trashboatex@trashboatex9 күн бұрын
    • W

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise9 күн бұрын
  • Hey, I quickly wanna add something: In the middle of the video you dismiss the idea that ports to NSO should be compatible with Home. However, the 3DS re-releases on Virtual Console were compatible with Bank and had trading capabilities through local wireless communication. The transferability mattered a lot, as it was the easiest, and sometimes only way to get Pokémon with their Hidden Ability or certain movesets for competetive Pokémon. Drought Ninetales or Chlorophyll Venusaur are good examples of this.

    @pokepha8379@pokepha8379Ай бұрын
  • It’s wild to me that they put the Stadium games on there. Those games were designed around the assumption that you’d be using your RBY and GSC Pokémon. There’s really no point to them being on there, besides the mini games.

    @tlucas7031@tlucas7031Ай бұрын
  • Gen 3 is still pretty good, even compared to current gen and the formula for main games is still really similar with recent new features being poorly done. This make them direct competition to the newer games (compare Platinum to BDSP) and I think that's why they're not available. The games not being available gives Nintendo/Game Freak more room to release games and make profit.

    @s0lsticefr4@s0lsticefr4Ай бұрын
    • You should really be comparing BDSP to DP, not Platinum. Platinum was not the remake fsns asked for. What fans actuslly wanted was a Legends esc game set in Sinnoh with all the benefits of Platinum. Which we did in fact get.

      @mrbubbles6468@mrbubbles646822 күн бұрын
  • Because gamefreak has been making terrible pokemon games for a while now. If they rerelease the old games, more people would play them and prefer them over the new games. This means that if gamefreak released another terrible pokemon game after porting over the old good games, people's taste would be accustomed to a level higher than the slop gamefreak pushes onto shelves. A lot of people may still buy it, but the reviews would be so terrible that they would be forced to put work and effort into their games.

    @SGT_Squid_Dog@SGT_Squid_DogАй бұрын
  • Maybe, they are waiting for the 30th anniversary. Thats how they were released on the 3DS they waited for 2016 even though the 2DS virtual console has been available since 2011. Red Blue and Yellow were added in 2016. Gold and sSilver were added in 2017 and Crystal in early 2018.

    @jcg7609@jcg760924 күн бұрын
  • Greed is one hell of a drug.

    @taylenday@taylenday4 күн бұрын
  • It's probably that they just want to sell the games as near full-price separate titles, but Nintendo is probably wanting to throw them on NSO. It may also be that they want to cut off the route of creating hacked Pokemon in the older generations and transferring forward to bypass the extra security they've been adding to keep hacked Pokemon out of newer generations. The consistent stream of cloned legendaries coming in from Gen 1-7 is probably something they really want to stop even if they aren't sure how.

    @KertaDrake@KertaDrakeАй бұрын
    • They have proven time after time they do not care about hacked mons, Multiple World Champions have used hacked teams and been proven to be hacked and they did nothing to punish them so i highly doubt that is the reason.

      @alucard8433@alucard843335 минут бұрын
  • Maybe once they run out of ideas for new generations, they'll start rereleasing hard copies of the classics, with their corresponding hardware even if we're lucky. They might even make ports that can connect link cables with Home. Not saying they'll do that but it'd be awesome if they did.

    @TheGigaOnion@TheGigaOnion2 ай бұрын
    • I doubt they’ll ever run out of ideas

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruise2 ай бұрын
  • Red/Blue/Yellow were released on 3DS eshop on their 20th anniversary. I could see them getting a release on their 30th anniversary on Switch. That would be 2026. Timing is everything for Nintendo/GameFreak. They dont just throw their Games on NSO for fast money. They wait for the perfect Timing.

    @wilkobadberg5272@wilkobadberg5272Ай бұрын
    • RIGHT!I had it then I tried it was gone off my switch went to see if I could re buy it on the eshop and well let’s just say I was very disappointed lol

      @kellyroyal9579@kellyroyal957924 күн бұрын
  • As someone who's forcefully ran these games on switch through modding my system, I can confidently say they run at a buttery smooth 3.2 fps, specifically the ds and 3ds games I don't see why they don't. The games run perfectly!

    @thisunknownusername5295@thisunknownusername529514 күн бұрын
  • I was thinking exactly this.

    @carltonleboss@carltonleboss23 күн бұрын
  • I would prefer a collection of every game from Gens 1-5. They can even sell it at full price if they want. Honestly, given the current Pokemon Go situation, a Pokemon collection would be the only new Pokemon thing I would buy until something changes.

    @marplatense31@marplatense3112 күн бұрын
  • Wait, are the Wii games that people bought now unplayable?

    @dabrams84@dabrams84Ай бұрын
    • No. If you bought games u can still play it. But if not, they’re off the market

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruiseАй бұрын
  • If we ever got them, it would be from an alternative app. This way save states/rewind are removed. But even that is too good to be true due to, you guessed it, CANNABILIZATION.

    @chrisgill326@chrisgill3262 ай бұрын
  • Why aren’t they on my phone. I can play every gameboy game on emulator on my phone but I would pay like 20 dollars for each game if they were official apps.

    @Tolandruth@Tolandruth19 күн бұрын
  • It looks like remakes are gonna be a thing on a side and the main games will the focus point

    @Manster559@Manster559Ай бұрын
  • If they released the pokemon games with national dex and veteran difficulty i would buy it in a heartbeat. Plenty of ROMs already do it! Such a wasted opportunity

    @Jaymo00@Jaymo0028 күн бұрын
  • im actually pretty convinced they will come with the switch 2 release, they seem to be scraping every single game to be in the lineup for that release, maybe even restrict them to be playable on switch 2 only and bring them to switch 1 later on. regardless i think playing them on the switch on the tv is a better experience than playing it on an emulator on pc, i would love for them to come out sooner

    @iclg777@iclg777Ай бұрын
  • Gens 1-4 classic games can't come back without an Adult only rating due to the game corner being a thing in them, real life problems are holding their return back. Think gen 1 and 2 got bumped to rated e10 or t on the 3ds instead of e.

    @makuta294@makuta2949 күн бұрын
  • ill just use emu on mobile like delta.. (i own the games)

    @peeratatr1492@peeratatr14926 күн бұрын
  • If I’m being honest imo without home compatibility bringing the old games would be pointless they are entirely too easy to emulate which is basically what you would be playing but with home compatibility that would be such a big selling point since there’s no real way to get some pokemon other than older games or go. Why pay to play something when you can emulate it for free personally that’s what I want I want a way to get pokemon from older games such as shiny legendary Pokemon you can’t get currently

    @blazeestes468@blazeestes468Ай бұрын
    • true

      @JacobCruise@JacobCruiseАй бұрын
  • Basically, you can blame players for the states companies are treating their customers. Why spend the extra money when you guys will just buy it either way.

    @nilsirrah7672@nilsirrah767219 күн бұрын
  • There are people that up to this day, play the older games because they want to transfer the pokemon caught in there up to the modern games. If these games are in the swotch and if they'ye compatible with home, transfering would be so much easier.

    @robinchrisb_@robinchrisb_24 күн бұрын
  • Simple answer is, the old games were released on the 3DS so you could trade up to the newer games easily. Which they do not need to do for the Switch yet until Bank goes down. And even then, they seem set on releasing new games that will give you those old mon instead of throwing ports onto a subscription service

    @mrbubbles6468@mrbubbles646822 күн бұрын
  • The optimist in me subscribes to the Pokémon home theory.

    @Theresabeltinmyhand@Theresabeltinmyhand20 күн бұрын
  • But wait, the 3DS had the classic games with Pokémon Bank in Pokémon home

    @coolerguy64@coolerguy6417 күн бұрын
  • I had to buy a hacked ds to play fire red and emerald and black and white

    @pumista818@pumista81815 күн бұрын
  • I would give my right kidney to have these on switch with Pokemon home

    @warrenwymore6631@warrenwymore663113 күн бұрын
  • There’s already a Pokemon trading card game on the gameboy app. Might as well give us red and blue.

    @DangerousMoviestar@DangerousMoviestarАй бұрын
  • I'm a big fan of retaining a history with my pokemon. So being able to transfer pokemon up from my older games, using both Pokemon Bank and Home is great. So personally, I'm hoping the only reason we haven't gotten these old game titles on the recent console, is because they are working out a possible solution for trainers to bring the pokemon forward, or even have backwards compatibilitiy with the current Pokemon Home system, where you can take say a pokemon you caught in the most recent games, and transfer it into one of the older games when on switch.

    @tonystar73@tonystar732 ай бұрын
  • Tad; Are reason because it only 1 save file on all classic pokemons & Impossible transfer on to n64 controller pax as well pokemon home That right? Nintendo need add tho games instead of switch online it can put on eshop for $5 Each

    @dorisshields816@dorisshields816Ай бұрын
    • They were 10$ each on the 3ds, and they sold really really well and Nintendo is greedy so im assuming the games will be in the 10-50$ range for each game depening on the system and how much they were brand new as we both know Nintendo loves to sell older digital games for full price.

      @alucard8433@alucard843329 минут бұрын
  • Hey hey! At least they put Mario 1, 2, 3, world, and yoshis island on there twice between the SNES, NES, and GBA online.

    @Whatisthis195@Whatisthis19521 күн бұрын
  • Another reason to not drop, for example, gen3 games, is how exploitable they are with all their bugs and the fixed rng in Emerald and ACE

    @lordinfernape4753@lordinfernape475321 күн бұрын
  • But real talk though. I think the reason also might be that people don’t really buy the old games. I’m just talking from experience but I only remember playing like the more recent games and when I was a kid I thought the gen one games look ugly or their not the crazy new pokemon that’s gonna follow the anime and the trading card game and all. If I did want to go and play the older pokemon games I don’t really want to buy em

    @elwen8525@elwen852517 күн бұрын
  • They are doing a proper damnatio memoriae to the older masterpieces as to rewrite their entire franchise as if they never existed. They split the fanbase in two: older fans playing older games, outside of the market, and newer younger fans, buying the latest products not knowing the past.

    @MarioBeart@MarioBeart3 күн бұрын
  • To slowly drive up the cost of the originals to un-obtainable prices on ebay so that you will be forced to buy re-makes and new pokemon games (cause really, not much has changed since pokemon red/blue... really)

    @invisiblemango3536@invisiblemango353620 күн бұрын
  • They could do what they did with the virtual console games on the 3ds and disable all save states and rewinding

    @jamesrgamesoffical@jamesrgamesofficalАй бұрын
    • 3DS doesn´t really do "Virtual console" as these Pokemon-games are all just emulated on 3DS. With all downsides to emulation. Virtual Console means you NATIVELY run code! Virtual Console means you run a Virtual machine = Virtualization.

      @user-in3br2qs8x@user-in3br2qs8xАй бұрын
    • @user-in3br2qs8x well it's is being emulated on switch too

      @jamesrgamesoffical@jamesrgamesofficalАй бұрын
    • @@jamesrgamesoffical On WiiU (true Virtual console, thus the name btw) it´s not being emulated. It´s virtualized = max. compatibility. This is why VC of 3DS was discontinued early. Because emulation can never give you 99% compatibility.

      @user-in3br2qs8x@user-in3br2qs8xАй бұрын
    • @user-in3br2qs8x when was VC discontinued early? The last 3ds VC was pokemon crystal in 2018

      @jamesrgamesoffical@jamesrgamesofficalАй бұрын
    • @user-in3br2qs8x every virtual console was done using emulation, the switch online emulator is just updated versions of the wii u VC emulator which was an updated wii VC emulator

      @jamesrgamesoffical@jamesrgamesofficalАй бұрын
  • I’m thinking they just won’t come to the Switch, even in a year where there is no new Pokémon game, they’re still not putting the first 3 gens on the eshop for sale. It’s sad as people shouldn’t have to emulate to play a 25 year old game on Nintendo’s own hardware.

    @SuperRobbo92@SuperRobbo92Ай бұрын
  • I say they should port the GB/DS games to switch and sell them in pairs or trios for $40-$60 per set. It wouldn't be part of NSO or Home-compatible.

    @oliverimhoof@oliverimhoof18 күн бұрын
  • i sold my switch and bought the best console they ever made: the DS Lite, along with pokemon white, white 2, Emerald, HeartGold, and Platinum. The only games I'll ever need.

    @tempideus@tempideus15 күн бұрын
  • You don't even need to include it into NSO, they released the OG Fire Emblem for what, 5 bucks? I don't think many people would say it's unreasonable for them to charge 10? Bucks or so a copy for RBY and GSC

    @KyleHedricks@KyleHedricks21 күн бұрын
  • The only real way to deal with this issue now in days is just to homebrew all of your Nintendo consoles. Since they’ve been closing everything left and right, recently with the 3DS and the WiiU, now the only thing that can realistically save their own consoles is the homebrew channel and other similar alternatives. You can’t come up to me and say that the remakes are just as good as the originals when, that’s genuinely not the case.

    @RuthlessXNexus@RuthlessXNexus21 күн бұрын
  • There is definitely a money-related reason for why they did not add them to the Nintendo Switch. While we wait on Pokemon Z-A, there are a lot of monster taming games to play.

    @TheOFCMedia@TheOFCMediaАй бұрын
  • They could release all the old Pokémon games for 20-40 bucks and people will still buy them and I’d be one of those people

    @trentDaily@trentDaily17 күн бұрын
  • If all the old gb and gba Pokemon games came to switch I would buy a switch

    @randomkid1267@randomkid126713 күн бұрын
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