2024 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road Proving Grounds Test
On a cold and wet January day, we test the 2024 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road at the Driving Sports TV Peninsula Proving Grounds to see if this trail-ready crossover is actually trail ready.
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9/10 for me. For a SUV that's suppose to be on the road 99% of the time with good mpg, this does the job. No wonder it sells like hot cakes
Agreed. It's a very useful and practical car for my around-town driving in the Puget Sound area, and also gets me out in the Arizona desert for remote photography and camping when I want. It's not a Moab rock crawler, but most of us don't want to accept the compromises that involves (*cough* 17MPG *cough*).
Just received last week my new RAV4 PHEV. What a machine! A 10/10 on fuel consumption and reliability , and a 8/10 in all the rest! Comfort, design, capacity, interior, options...
This is my first viewing of this kind of content from you with the course layout, testing etc. Love to see it and from what I've seen the format is informative and well done. Liked and subbed, looking forward to seeing more. Thank you!
rain makes videos look incredibly good though
Thanks for your video i just got one RV4 yesterday , I'm very satisfied with it
I have a regular 2023 RAV4 Hybrid and I had zero issues moving in my driveway after approximately 12" of snowfall in Pocono Mountains ,PA just about 3 weeks ago.
Great Video, all the best from Germany!
Great episode. Thanks a lot. i think about the over heated gearbox in the snow that if you'll take the subaru crosstek sport it will alsooverheated because it does not have a cooler oil gearbox. this is a big reason why the crosstrek wilderness pass the test so good, Apart from the improvements in the Xmode system and the gearbox with the improved transmission ratios. Thanks again.
Don't forget that this thing's I will drive system appear to just allow the wheels that were in the air or had no traction to just sit and spin sucking up all the power and not clamping down the brakes to transfer power to the wheels "with traction".
Great review Ryan ! Since the Rav will be redesigned next year in 25, have you heard of anything about Toyota carrying over the TRD suspension system to the 25 year model or will there be new features?
Thank you for this video!
Good looking car. Not unloading the Bronco any time soon to have one though. lol Great vid Ryan, that cold and wet is miserable like you said.
Such a great video. Thanks. Love the color (!) but the bouncing would bother me after a while.
Ryan, your new course is eating up new vehicles, first the Honda Passport and now the Toyota RAV4. 😂
Oh we need the wilderness to try that one spot in the same conditions. Head to head combat haha
Love your content ❤️
I can't wait for you to put the Toyota Land Cruiser through these courses.
Hey Ryan! Another great video! I just picked up a new '23 Forester Wilderness and, for the price the FW and RAV4 TRD sells for, I don't think there is any comparison.. the FW wins all day long it seems like.. esp as I got my ~$39k stickered FW for right at $35k.. it feels like the FW is a bit of Goldilocks vehicle if you want a capable vehicle that gets decent milage, has some room, and still has some physical buttons etc.. the CTW and OBW are both really nice, but I just don't like the lack of hard buttons..
I like Toyota, but I just don't see this being worth around $42k. I really think the Forester wilderness and the Grand Cherokees are better values for unibody. You can even get a 4runner SR5 for $40k too.
Agree 100%
Yeah, unfortunately if they don't make the clutches strong enough it will do less in heavier load then brake traction, it's happening to Honda too... That's where the Subaru deserved credit in your other video because over it's CVT it still held better then this, even the IVTM4 response to traction loss on other videos was so slow in comparison to top brake based systems just like this Rav4 here, so many wheel spins before it finally sends power, while i've seen some brake systems take half wheel spin and off it went
Just a better tires and lift- kit .. that’s all Nice job 👍
Toyota always skimps out on tires
Funny enough you can get a lift kit for the rav4 from 'torq engineering', albeit it's just strut spacers
And there is no such thing as just a a lift kit. 😅 To do that right it's a bunch of money not just $150 deal. And then you're messing with reliability, geometry, gas mileage, and hoping the install job is done right. There's no such thing as just a lift kit. The ground clearance should always be set up properly from the manufacturer.
Love the Army green. Are the TrDs models rated for 3500 pound tow capacity?
Toyota needs to step up their AWD game in the next gen Rav4. I believe even a base Forester would have performed better. Much less a Wilderness.
This is when it would be excellent to see a direct head to head with the Forester (regular & Wilderness) vs the TRD Rav4, same day same course.
Am I a bit disappointed? Maybe. Okay, it's just an off-roadie looking suv but it's a Toyota with a trd batch on it and maybe because of that I was expecting more. But I bet with better tires and a slight lift it would do better. Thanks for another great video! 👏
If the wheel in the air is just sitting there spinning and getting all of the power because the AWD system is not clamping down on the brake to transfer power to the tire with "traction", that also will make it so that it does not matter what kind of tire you have because no powers going to it😅 but yeah most of the car manufacturers "traditionally"don't want to put a decent tire on, they just put on " Sedan / passenger car tires" on all of their vehicles.🙄 In this went down version of wildpeak tire instead of installing the "stock/retail /manufacturers version of the tire is also a fairly lame move. 🙄 But I guess it's a bit better than a straight out 100% Street tire like they do on all their other versions 😅
This Rav4 offroad actually did better than I thought it would. The price seems a little higher than it should be. Though the gas mileage would be noticeably worse, you could get 4×4 Sr5 4Runner for close to the same price as this particular trim Rav4. Thankyou for sharing.
you need to have a leader board!
Yes
The proper Land Cruiser is about to be released though at the next price point over this or the 4Runner. I would wait a model year to see what the portfolio is going to look like first!
I have a rav4 trd, with Maxxis Razr upsized tires on 17s and have ripped it around all sorts of true ORV trails in the San Juans Colorado and beyond and never had a problem. It’s a great car and very capable. Obviously being a CUV you’re gonna have to play with your momentum when off roading more than is done in these videos. In reality nobody is isolating variables to test the torque vectoring, you just punch it up the hill and it goes lol.
Did fantastic especially with the wet, slippery conditions.
Subaru better. Toyota only makes good 4wd. Their awd are inferior to everyone except honda. A car could get through that course so not sure why you call this fantastic
@@billricheter5678 it did get through the course….
@@Redhawk24no it didn’t. He had to back up and exit the course a different way.
@@billricheter5678 Nobody asked. This is a review, not a comparison
@@billricheter5678which one of Honda’s awd is inferior than that of Toyota? You’re not talking about the vtm-4/sh-awd I hope?
RAV4 is perfect car for comfort and commute.
these have been so useful, a tree fell on my beloved honda fit this week and i'm looking to upgrade so i can stop borrowing a subaru every weekend. the fit can get to most of my trailheads, but not all of them, and it's not great in winter as soon as i pull into a parking lot. so if i can get to my trailheads for the same or better than Fit mpg + cargo space, well, it could be worth an overall bulkier machine especially since i do so much less city/town driving now. i do kind of feel like i wouldn't need a super powerful machine to do what i want if that machine was just compact and lightweight. but the hybrid HRV isn't on this continent :/
Ryan, These are the exact conditions where the upcoming, affordable, body-on-frame Land Cruiser FJ should shine. 😉🤞🤞
I really hope it’s body on frame. That would bode well for Toyotas Corolla truck as well. Unless it’s EV only and bigger than the name “compact cruiser” would suggest
Really. Why would you need a body on frame for that. A decent car could get over most of that course. This thing is garbage for offroad
I would argue that it was the tires that failed not the system for the snow/ice review Toyota is notorious in putting trash tires for their "off road capable" vehicles with the same tire as the subaru I would say it will be closer
If the wheel in the air is just sitting there spinning and getting all of the power because the AWD system is not clamping down on the brake to transfer power to the tire with "traction", that also will make it so that it does not matter what kind of tire you have because no powers going to it😅 but yeah most of the car manufacturers "traditionally"don't want to put a decent tire on, they just put on " Sedan / passenger car tires" on all of their vehicles.🙄 In this went down version of wildpeak tire instead of installing the "stock/retail /manufacturers version of the tire is also a fairly lame move. 🙄 But I guess it's a bit better than a straight out 100% Street tire like they do on all their other versions 😅
@@RRr-yl8zr so you're already paying a premium for the RAV4 and then you have to buy a new set of tires as well? I love that Ryan tests the vehicles with the OEM tires.. "run what ya brung"..
The tire choice from the factory is an odd choice.
love this car over subaru
I would love to see a comparison to the TRD vs RAV4 Prime.
apples and oranges
RAV4 Prime wouldn’t make it very far with lack of ground clearance… it would lose its front bumper at the first dip in the trail
@@solidsnake2030😅 No 😁
@@Fabulousprofound168traction, torque, and power delivery, (to the wheels with traction/the functional quality of the all-wheel drive system /drive train) could make a drastic difference on a nasty or steep dirt road. Depending on the version of the RAV4 Prime you've got around 8 inches or 8.2 inches of ground clearance. Best TRD version only goes up to around 8. 6 in of ground clearance. Nothing impressive.
I believe there is a video of a Quebec Toyota dealer drag racing these two in deep snow, and the TRD did better off the line while the Prime closed the gap near the finish. Off the line capability, IMO, is more important if you are doing a lot of stopping and going, which is what you will be doing in these conditions.
I have this exact same trim level 2024 Rav4 TRD and it DOES have tracking on the backup camera. I noticed an "X" in the field of view on the backup camera, and that leads me to believe that there was a system issue on this vehicle where the display software was not getting the proper steering angle input data for the overlay.
I think it's a decent value however not compared to the Subaru Forester which could handle those off-road situations much easier and not fail
@@kidamere2408 Wanna bet? Just watch Ryan's other videos on the Forester.
yeah i seen this guy drive so if your impressed with that ill pass on any "bet" with you@@eskieman3948
😂 I would say it is not even remotely a decent value it is very overpriced. Are you trying to sell somebody a RAV4 trd? 😅
i seen him drive its not that impressiv at all@@eskieman3948
Looks good in Army Green!
My first experience with 4-wheel drive type stuff was a 1969 Bronco at the Ford dealer I worked at. It had factory limited slip on BOTH ends. It never failed - even on ice covered uphill pavement. Watching this Toyota spin one or two wheels- and having to use the brakes to stop the spin - to me, that is just dumb. Mechanical limited slip is rock solid simple - and it works. Limited slip doesn't need a computer, wheel spin sensors, or any other useless crap to work. In that wet stuff you were failing to drive in, ALL the wheels would be driving and there would be NO wheel spin.
Army green is such a great color. Had a 4Runner in AG and regret selling. The Rav4 did much better on this course vs the deep snow. That deep snow was pretty extreme for a crossover though.
The CrossTrek Wilderness kicked butt on the same snow trail (plowing the trail ahead of the Rav4 TRD OffRoad no-less) that the Rav4 TRD OffRoad failed on, so some crossovers can take it in stride...
Tires were a big factor in that test@@miller1
Tires make big difference even in deep snow
Yep, and how much more money will it cost you to put decent tires on the RAV4 which is already over priced. All cars these days are overpriced but this is pretty wild
Sure they were. Amazing how the WildPeak tires made the Rav4 "TRD OffRoad" AWD system overheat and shutdown like that isn't it...
I paid the same price for my Tacoma TRD off-road 6-speed manual transmission & 120K 7yr warranty with gap insurance! 🆒 lil suv tho. I would get the hybrid wilderness package little bit cheaper & you get an extra 10 mpg
TRD❤
TRD used to really mean performance but in the last 10+ years, TRD is usually nothing more than a pretty appearance package on most Toyota’s. Seems to be the case here again. All bark and no bite :( I really miss the Toyota’s of the old days that had some actual muscle behind the punch
Would love to see the hybrid
This may be a silly question but, at what angles do you need to worry about oil starvation?
For about $8k more than a forester Wilderness or $10k more than a Crosstrek Wilderness, this seems to be missing a lot. How can you not have tracking on the backup camera? That's stock even on the $25k Crosstrek. Nice car but seems really expensive for what they give you.
I have this exact same trim level 2024 Rav4 TRD and it DOES have tracking on the backup camera. I noticed an "X" in the field of view on the backup camera, and that leads me to believe that there was a system issue on this vehicle where the display software was not getting the proper steering angle input data for the overlay.
ARMY GREEN IS BACK
Yeah for 40K + in a vehicle that had obvious no business being offroad
@@IowaHiker fair enough, but you can still get army green which is arguably the best color ever put on a vehicle. You don't need to Offroad, because as you said the rav4 has no business going there.
@@FullsendOffroad army green is great! I just wish they would make affordable off road vehicles again. This TRD BS needs to stop
@@IowaHiker yeah, it's an appearance package. Toyota only does this to attract customers, and it worked for Honda, Mazda, and Nissan with "rugged" vehicles with appearance packages. It's working and brings more buyers. Plus the TRD is the same as the Adventure model. If I could get an Army green rav4 that's like an LE or XLE for like 30 grand that would be great.
@@FullsendOffroad so true! I know it's just for profit. If they really wanted to bring it the Rav4 Off Road would have 4Runner esque lift and manual transmission w/ manual 4x4. What we have here is a joke and for 40,000 (we all know it's more like 45k) forget it. I'm a huge Toyota fan but I will call them out all day long
I love cvt
Is this channel sponsored by Subaru? I really like his reviews. They are so good and cover what I want to learn and know. Just seems to lean toward Subarus on a regular basis. I like Subarus also. Just some Toyotas don’t seem to get a completely fair shake. Life happens.
Wish they’d make a TRD off road Prime!
are you in good standing with toyota ask them why the system over heated when you were going through all that snow maybe they saw your video
It is interesting how he mentioned the RAV4 over heating in the snow and not the subaru. It didn’t mention both vehicles made it up the snow covered road/ trail. Just interesting to mention the negative and not the positive.
The dual clutch system was unable to transfer power to the passenger rear wheel on the last obstacle
The gasoline Rav4s awd system on the Limited, Trail/adventure/trd pro, is great on road with its torque vectoring systems as it improves handling, but off road they are bad. We had better experience with the standard awd system found on the LE awd and XLE awd. Hope you can do a comparison.
And this is supposed to be a " rugged SUV" version of a vehicle. Not a sports car. It is not even supposed to be a laid-back 4 door sedan
And yet this is marketed as a SUV and not as a sports car. Not even a 4 door sedan 😅 oh wait this is the TRD version of an SUV 😅
About the hard climb-out: would a 4runner without front or back lockers have done significantly better?
Way better if it was 4x4 4runner. The power delivery to wheels is going to be stronger than the AWD system
Most likely. The 4Runner has larger tires, better articulation, and a far superior traction control system.
I think Army Green looks the best on Rav4
The sh1t you gotta go through filming your video. Appreciated the hard work.
Test the new Outlander PHEV.
great review, just keep in mind that the rainy/wet condition adds about 30-50% difficulty to the trails.
But when he was stuck and only the wheel in the air was spinning.... The system can't move enough power around to get unstuck. It wasn't about traction, at that point, it was about lack of power.
@@mtbrdudenah. When the ground is wet the wheels which are contacting the ground gets less friction therefore less maximum traction, therefore couldn’t move forward compared to dry
it doesn't matter how much traction the wheel on the ground has. It has more traction than the wheel/wheels sitting in the air that the all-wheel-drive system is allowing to just freely spin and not transfer any power to the wheel touching the ground .
@@RRr-yl8zrsure but when you throw traction control into the equation, the same amount of brake power and time to a free spin wheel would be enough to get the vehicle unstuck in dry and not enough in wet due to the contacting wheels don’t get enough traction in wet.
The wheel up in the air free spinning not touching the ground with zero traction being the one getting all the power is not going to get you out of anywhere /anything. You can't contradict that fact😅😉
Can u do outlander sport plz
$42k?! How much is a 4-Runner? If you want do off-road stuff. Wonder if you just get a base RAV add a lift, wheels, tires etc for the occasional trail ..
I think it would be silly to take a RAV4 off road, maybe a dirt road. I have a RAV4 hybrid 2024 and I wouldn’t scratch it up in the woods. I’ve also had 2006 Tundra 4wd for 18 years and I wouldn’t go up a steep grade in deep snow. Unless there was someone around to tow me out.
Many people think it would be silly to buy a RAV4 or any SUV if you're not going to take it it "off road". Then you just got a car with worse gas mileage worse ride quality and worse handling. Well there are a couple of other reasons to buy SUV that is weak on a nasty dirt road, But those reasons never seem to be offered when people a Suv😅
Thanks for all the effort that you put into these reviews, Ryan. You looked absolutely soaked and miserable in the beginning.
How much capability difference is there in snow between trd RAV4 and the hybrid RAV4?
Never lift a Toyota.
@@billricheter5678 I don’t believe I implied I would 🧐
The rear axle electric motor fails to provide enough power to move the hybrid in some situations. In more normal snow driving, the hybrid is almost as good as the traditional awd setup.
But it will provide pretty much instant power and instant , no having to wrap the crap out of the engine. And how much power do you want to be putting down on snow and ice? So...
Very tough conditions for RAV4. I think that over half of 4runner owners will not do this course which Ryan does with RAV4. Greetings
😅
Thanks for the laugh! Off road proving ground!
My question would be, is it worth going up the trim from adventure to trd?
IMHO… no.
Curious about people's thoughts about buying this over an Outback wilderness or Forester wilderness which are the same price if not a little cheaper? I feel like from the reviews I've seen Ryan do and other car reviewers is that the Outback and Forester outshine the Rav4 in capability and comfort. Rav4 to me only has an edge on ventilated seats, Toyota reliability, & good MPGs
I think some people, me being one of them, would also point out that the RAV4 has an edge by having a traditional 8-speed transmission vs. the CVT in the Subaru models. The Subarus are exceptionally capable vehicles, of course, and the Wilderness models will certainly best this RAV4 in deep snow conditions (as seen in the recent video) and in more rugged non-snow conditions, but long term, that tranny in the RAV4 is going to be near bulletproof. Not sure the same can be said of the CVTs--I have relatives who have Subarus but not with a ton of miles not them, well under 100K (and so far, so good on the CVTs). I have an 06 Sequoia with 235K miles on it, and the transmission is smooth as silk with no work being done on it other than transmission fluid flushes.
Toyota gives you reliability, Subaru don't..
@@solidsnake2030 I feel like this take is pretty pedestrian / outdated. Subaru's reliability was really only an issue when they were having the head gasket problems. I'm not sure exactly when that ended (around 14'?) but since then I've heard nothing major about repairs or reliability issues in all the Subaru groups I'm in
@@TeamMasterFunky CVT has always been a problem and these Subarus are still new and hasn't been through the reliability test, give it more time and you'll see the difference. Toyotas also keep their high values
@@solidsnake2030I have a 2022 Outback XT and a friend has 2022 Rav4, whenever I’m in the Rav I feel like I’ve gone back in time with dated interior and it’s slow vs my turbo. The Subaru CVT has been around for 15yrs. Go to any Toyota Dealer or any Dealer/Make including Subaru, guaranteed that every Service Dept has replaced transmissions, engines etc under warranty, they’re not just doing oil changes.
What I don’t understand is if Toyota owns 20% of Subarus shares, why can these two giants share their mutual expertise on Hybrids vehicles and AWD systems. Doesn’t this make more sense? I guess we will have to wait until Toyota buys another 30% of Subarus shares.
For an offroad-capable CUV, at this price point the Bronco Sport Badlands trim seems like a better choice.
Just get a 4Runner or Tacoma if you want to go off the path. I almost made the mistake of getting a rav4 it’s not capable for what I need. But it’s a great soccer mom suv though.
I wonder if it will drive any better with good tires.
Yeah you should always do better with better trials with better traction. But what it do better with it's all wheel drive system compared to a Subaru or the Ford bronco sport/baby bronco. I am kind of doubting it after seeing 🤔
I own this car. The first thing I had to do is replace the fake off road tires which have only about 1/4" of tread, for the real Falken tires, which are severe snow rated. The stock tires are not snow rated. Shame on Toyota for putting these 01 tires on this vehicle. The real Falken tires are not noisy, and handle much better in the snow. Other than that, it's a great vehicle.
Bronco Sport 2.0 is still the standard.
Come on, Toyota! Add a front facing camera to the RAV 4.
Especially the 2024 TRD!
I have a fwd 2011 rav4 4 speed transmission and it’s faster than today
So remedial but thanks
They need a trd version of the hybrid rav4.
It's funny that my 19' rav4 adventure model goes through deep snow with ZERO problems. I have everything that the TRD model has (just not the badging).
Me too I have no problem with m 2019 rav4 adventure going to deep snow and mud specially around the farm
When does the Toyota Camry TRD come out 😂 will probably be better off-road hahah
We're just tough on it because we know they can do better. And we know it's the bean counters that are causing this loss of potential. Also, CUV's can be plenty capable off-road; just look at the Defender; it's just a giant CUV on air bags, independent suspension, and real lockers, or an optimally aggressive traction control system. Just like you can't build "Defender" without a low range and locker availability, you shouldn't have a "TRD Off-Road" badge with a low stall weak transmission, poor gearing, and a watered down version of their traction control system, or a torque vectoring unit that hardly works
I like the Army Green, but it would look a LOT better if it had Brown interior.
Don't like army green. But it would look better with a Brown interior.
@@RRr-yl8zr I Love the Saddle Brown leather interior in my Forester Touring.
cybertruck next lolol
Will you guys be testing the Santa fe 2024?
Probably. Not on schedule yet.
Would rather get a Subaru wilderness.
Yeah, CVT FTW /s
I have a Forester MT, my wife has the Premium Outback CVT. Gotta say, that CVT is...unnerving. I have NO feedback from the road or car. The manual feels bette rin every way. And I'm getting better MPG than her currently, but it's the first winter she has had it, and it's been subzero for two weeks here.
@@js2000hondaDid you see the video when Ryan compare this one against the Crosstrek Wilderness? The Subaru killed the RAV4 and, the RAV4 AWD overheated few times. That never happened to the Crosstrek (so much for not a CVT transmission). I am like the other guy. If it’s an off road vehicle I will never buy a Toyota before the Subaru. I got over the CVT transmission like 11 years ago.
Only toyota I’d buy over a Subaru for heading off the paved path is a 4 runner or Land Cruiser. Anything less, no way!
I think the Subaru takes the lead in off roading with a crossover.
I am shopping for a RAV4, but I realized the "off-road" features are a waist of money because I already have a lifted FJ cruiser and a Hilux. I am not driving a $40,000+ car, where my other two 4x4s are purpose built to go. I ding one of those on a rock or tree, it just makes them look cooler. which after watching this, has me questioning the whole point of buying a Rav4 when what I need is daily driver. Perhaps a really basic version. No need to pay to push all that extra wieght around for no good reason.
hey ryan the heated steering wheel is the whole steering wheel heated or just at the 10 and 3 position,i have a 2020 trd off road my heated steering wheel is only partialy heated i whish toyota made the whole thing heated,there reason i read or herd is thats the your suspose to drive 10 and 3 position .poor reason in my eyes,toyota has more than all the money in the world,so cost is no excuse.
My 2024 Rav4 TRD w/weather package has it heated from 8-10 and 2-4 positions. The heat strips run about a hand width above and below the crossbar on each side of the steering wheel.
Great review. I gotta say though, for THIS type of vehicle/class, I'm going to miss the much more practical forest road reviews such as found in one of Ryan's many past reviews: kzhead.info/sun/frBwpKqsnXiMeK8/bejne.htmlsi=9Hsby0tg6lcswaFm&t=773 I feel people with this type of SUV/CUV would never go into this type of no-man land / terrain. This course / terrain is more suited for Jeeps, 4 runners, etc. This is just my opinion.
Hyundai palaside did same without any off road package
15:20 Why did you choose Mud and Sand mode if you know it would only dig holes?! Just keep it in Rock and Dirt!
so disapointed with this rav4.. Guess i will keep hyping with the new tacoma
This is a great example where all 8.6 in of ground clearance are not created equal my Cherokee Trailhawk is 8.7 stock and technically after the lift it's probably only 8.8% even though the rest of the vehicle went up 2 in but I'm going to tell you I can guarantee you that my lifted Cherokee Trailhawk would obliterate that rock or even though they might look the same on paper
You need better tires. When comparing car. They should all have the same tires
How does this compare to the Forester Wilderness?
The Toyota Maybe has better gas mileage? And maybe better reliability? Subarus probably going to do better on a nasty road. But the Subaru Forester is pretty slow. I can't remember what the 0 to 80 time is on a Toyota RAV4 🤔
Last trd rav4 couldn't make it up a tiny hill
What a beautiful vehicle looks much better than those cheesy garbage Subarus😊
We would love these colours in the UK. All we get is bland, bland, bland. Any colour so long as you like white, grey or black.
How many miles does a full tank of gas get you
350 miles for a 10 gallon tank
The fuel tank is rated for 14.5 gallons. I'm not sure if that is max capacity or usable capacity. IIRC when full the displayed "range remaining" shows to be about 390mi. I get about 32MPG freeway, 27 in city driving on main city streets with minimal stoplights, and 22-23 in cities with obnoxiously short distances between stop signs/lights.
So basically get a Forester wilderness.