Who caused the Bite of '87? - Five Nights at Freddy's theory/analysis
After a short break, I have finally returned to making Five Nights at Freddy's content, with my first new video being my analysis of one of the franchise's oldest mysteries: 'Who caused the Bite of '87?, plus a bonus theory on which animatronic killed Phone Guy.
All of the Help Wanted and Special Delivery renders used in this video are from the Triple A Fazbear Wiki.
Most of the renders done in Scott Cawthon's art-style are done by Enderziom2004 on DeviantArt.
The non-UCN mugshots are done by CircusRama on DeviantArt.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:25 Current information
6:23 The Bite of '83 and a hypothetical Pizzeria Simulator incident
10:24 The suspects (Part 1)
13:22 The main trinity of suspects
20:51 The suspects (Part 2)
24:35 Overall conclusion
26:36 Bonus theory
32:49 Outro
*sighs* No, it was not Fredbear.
I remember when i thought that the bite of 83 was the bite of 87.. Good old times
FredBear87 Debunked.
It was not Fredbear.
@@tylerredforge5563 that was the bite of 83
@@NoahFilms15 that’s debatable
Kids: *tears apart Mangle* Mangle: You have lost your frontal lobe privileges
😂
@@joshuagomez1866 I know you didn’t actually laugh at this you just thought it was a *little* funny and put an emoji
I must admit that was my exact feeling-
@@ranch4683 True
@@ranch4683 Who asked
Everyone knows Scott caused the bite of 87 to make matpat’s brain explode
True very True Scott made the game so he did the bite of 1987
Yup
@@nicefloweytheoverseer7632 just turn the mega virus into a jaw like shape and *chomp*
Same
*The bite of 21*
I always hated how everyone assumes the victim was a child at the party. Remember the Night 4 call, where Phone Guy states the animatronics were acting aggressively towards the staff and get along fine with the kids, but stare when they see an adult. I actually think Jeremy Fitzgerald was the victim. He was on the day-shift that day. And the animatronics have been trying to jump him for the past week, and it was a perfect chance to do so.
I think the victim was Jeremy too but I believe the misconception that a child was bit comes from mangle's radio where people hear an officer saying there's a little boy who's missing their frontal lobe. Honestly it throws me off too and i noticed it's disregarded in the video because no one knows what to make of it
I think also, the audio is just a stock sound effect so in reality, the message is just random gibberish that doesn’t have anything to do with the Bite
Exactly. Angry robots have been trying to get to him for the past week. So when he's given a role to stand close to the animatronics in the day shift, it was the perfect chance to jump him (thanks to mangle)
Yep thats the victim
Jeremy Fitzgerald is The victim. Because in the last night. It's Frtiz Shmidt
I could see Scott one day revealing the culprits randomly online in like 12 years. It just feels like such a Scott move to wait years after his retirement, and to never mention the series for ages, and then just return from the grave and casually unveil one of the greatest mysteries in the entire series
Scott do be trolling the entirety of the fnaf community
when withered bonnie looks like an accurate depiction of what the bite of 87 victim's face would look like
Bonnie also got bit
@@Dipsy_5 no
@@F-15E_StrikeEagle ITS MY IMAGINATION I CAN THINK OF EVER I WANT! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
@@F-15E_StrikeEagle AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@@Dipsy_5 he-he’s to powerful...
I always felt really bad for phone guy. He seemed relatively wholesome, and even though they never met, it felt like he was a friend of the night guard. He seemed genuinely terrified upon his demise
Yeah, he was always really comforting too, he probably helped Mike a little by just talking to him.
yep your right bro
Especially when he asked the nightguard to check the suits in the morning, he knew exactly where he was going to end up, and he tried to calm himself by saying it wouldn't be that bad and that he would get out soon.
@@frezomereseraphim9164 yep
@@gonkderheilige6379 how?
I always thought it was mangle, the way his jumpscare animation is literally her swooping down and biting you in the head gives you obvious clues that he's the one who did it. I also always liked mangle because of her design, and because of the brand new mechanic he introduced.
You're going to give me an aneurysm
@@officialpeeper5189 💀💀💀
I like how you called mangle he and her
@@jacobsworld7573 mangles gender is confirmed yes by Scott but I think that mangle might be genderfluid because in fnaf ucn mangles description changes from he to her in mangle and phantom mangle and nightmare mangle
@@Swiftoverdoseif scott confirmed its a boy, its a boy.
I like how scott made the lore so confusing people need to create 34 minute videos just to explain who bit someone in the frontal lobe
Because he makes shit up as he goes. And the bite has little to no significance to the overall lore, so is it really a good thing??
I love how realistic Scott sounds in the phone calls, like he’s actually relating information about events he saw
Fact: Scott used his natural voice acting on voicing the phone guy
Best game developer and a good voice actor bro lol
@@long-nose-james6336 kind of sad that he’s problematic :(
@@sunbea4477 how is he "problematic"
@@muggs9977 he donated a l o t to anti-lgbtq organizations/politicians
I'm glad someone decided to finally solve this mystery once and for all. It really feels like you put a lot of effort and dedicated a lot of research into this.
Great deduction, that really makes a lot of sense. Good video!
5:15 "They interact with the kids just fine, but when they encounter an adult, the just. . . stare." that gave me the chills lol
Hi!
You haven’t seen sh*t until you’ve seen Toy Freddy about to enter the room that mf genuinely scared me the first time
considering that the children are the ones possessing animatronics, they most likely do not know how to act with adults or do not due to their deaths caused by the man behind the slaughter
@@ShaboingboingBouncer its been so long
Every time
It’s all fun and games until Scott reveals the culprit as balloon boy. This would be absolutely terrifying.
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Imagine just minding your own business when BB waltzes up to you, floats up to your head with a balloon, and just takes a bite out of your head like an apple.
clearly it was the paper pals
Scott Already revealed Who it was, it was Toy Bonnie, in 1 minigame when you can wander the pizzeria when you get to the main stage you can see there is pool of blood below Toy Bonnie, and just Next to it is body of an child
@@molten3450 ty
For the Freddy handprint: It is seen on FNAF 1 Repaired Freddy. The bite took place back when Freddy was withered (FNAF 2), and Withered Freddy lacks the prints. That means they are literally not connected to the bite in any way
I think phone guy’s death went like this: he closes the left door, causing Foxy to bang on it. He pulls up the camera, and opens the kitchen cam where he hears Freddy playing the Toreador March. Chica sneaks in while he’s looking on the cam and starts making noise, and phone guy then switches to the left door cam, where he sees the Golden Freddy poster. He quickly pulls down the cam, where Golden Freddy kills him before Chica can, explaining why we hear his jumpscare. Despite being paranormal, he is capable of killing, as he can do so to Mike Schmidt.
despite being such a huge debate in the fandom, the bite of '87 is nearly irrelevant from a plot perspective, aside from leading to the closing of the fnaf 2 location. but great video- i love this analysis.
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@@communistdoggo8465 what
5:13 I like how the "they just STARE" perfectly syncs to toy Bonnie opening his eyes
Yes samme
i was just about to comment that
@@loogidarealdealme too
I think that was the point 😅
@@clockspeed1836 lmao
Thank you for informing me about your transformers videos imma go and watch them after I finish this video!
You are literally the best text-to-speech channel out there.
Wow, can’t believe you hired Candy Cadet to do the voiceover for you. Must’ve been hard to get in touch of him due to how famous he is.
About 5 keys
I know this is a joke but candy cadet sounds way too different
@@dabmonstr7403 ??? It's the same bot what are you talking about
@@matpal6 Candy cadets voice is much deeper
@@MaxwellChen38 nope
Alternate title: Candy Cadet Talks About Who Did The Bite of ‘87.
Lol
Y E S
Love that
Oh damn it is
Candy Cadet: *Telling the tale of how a worker was mauled by a robot dog and how a worker of Freddy Fazbear’s pizza was murdered* Child: wtf and where’s my candy
I personally think toy chica could be ruled out because unlike many of the other animatronics, toy chica doesn't have a jaw hinge. Looking at her design, it doesn't look like there's any way for toy chicas mouth to open any more than it already is, so she definitely couldn't have bitten down on somebody's head.
5:15 bro this is just perfect when he says the word “stare” toy bonnie opens his eyes its just perfect
I always thought the Bite of 87 was highly over analyzed by the Fandom. It's clear Scott Cawthon never intended for it to be important, and I think he just needed a way of telling the player that the Robots are dangerous and are capable of hurting people, so he added a small story about one biting a kids frontal lobe off. That sends the message that they're dangerous perfectly fine. However it became another case of Fans taking something in the lore and ramping it up to grand importance.
well to be fair you could argue that scot kinda hyped it up himself in FNAF 4 with the iconic 'Iz ThAT THe BiTe Of 87!?" only for it to end up being a 'gatcha!" moment and it's reveled to be a completely different biting event that we've never heard of until now
@@camoking3609 I'm pretty sure the entire purpose of the bait-and-switch was to get people to stop theorizing about the Bite of '87, because he never really intended for it to be important. He was basically saying "Ok, you want a bite that's actually important? Here you go." (turns out it either wasn't important or we just haven't figured out anything important about it)
@@nts0n well, the only important thing i can think of, is Fredbear having 2 souls (Crying Child and Cassidy)
maybe the handprints on freddys face were people touching him resulting in the rule dont touch freddy?
I mean, they don’t like people breaking the rules (stated by FNaF 1’s first phone call) so maybe withered freddy did it (being used to the “dont touch freddy” rule)
@@That1Legendlol Withered Freddy walking around during the day?
@@anexistingperson8540 Nope
But hats in fnaf 1, and it was confirmed that fnaf 1 takes place after fnaf 2 and even sister location. I think that detail is there because it genuinely annoyed the staff because kids would touch Freddy, which is why he has handprints on his face.
@@waylonjones1752 Put your finger under your shirt. Touch something. Does it leave a print? It doesn't, and Freddy is a bunch of fur, incapable of leaving handprints.
7:42 Thanks for bringing up the counterargument for the Fredbear and Friends! 1983. It grinds my gears when people use that piece of evidence, I also like how you present evidence in favour of bite of '83 with better weight.
As a wise man once said, WAS THAT THE BITE OF '87!!!
well, markiplier is wise
Mark be like: Was that the bite of '87!? 😱
Mark thot fredbear did it lol
Well maybe he did
Mark saw the Bite of '83.
@@nicefloweytheoverseer7632 mark: ima pretend I didn't see that
@@altlolol2237 MatPat: YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM ME!
I would like to add something! It's implied the '87 bite victim was an employee rather than a customer! The toys are connected to a criminal database so they can protect the kids from possible predators. However this facial recognition system doesn't really work well, causing their staring problem with adults. In the same line where phone guy 2.0 states they act differently with children, they also state they're almost aggressive towards staff workers. Due to their nature, I doubt it would be a child victim as they show no resentment towards them and that includes Mangle so that slightly makes her less likely.
to my knowledge the toys don’t actually detect predators or connect to a criminal database, they’re actually set to detect william afton, to keep him away from this location. the animatronics messed up and mistook you (micheal) for him, which is why THEY are trying to attack you.
Actually- FNAF 2 isn't Michael, or at least he isn't Nights 1-5. Michael is theorized to be Fritz Smith aka the guard during Night 6 but the guard transferred to the dayshift during the party at Night 5 is actually Jeremy Fitzgerald, the paychecks are different. And yes, the toy animatronics' purpose was to prevent William from keep him away but they actually are connected. In fact it's theorized by some that William, using the Spring Bonnie suit, actually tampered and with the sensors to make them malfunction.
While you're right about the employee getting bit, there's a different reason for it. The malfunctioning facial recognition is a lie, made up by Phone Guy, to explain Toys' behaviour, just like the endoskeleton lie in FNAF1. Remember that they're possessed by 5 kids, killed in SAVETHEM minigame. And as we know from FNaF2, William is the night guard before Jeremy, which is exactly why the animatronics try to kill Jeremy too. They don't need to recognize the face, they just see the uniform and go insane. Posting him next to the animatronics during the day is asking for trouble. What did the PG say? "Stay close to the animatronics. Remember to wear your uniform."
Imagine it's because mangle is so broken down (kids taking her apart and stuff) that the criminal database corrupted in mangle's system and mangle just attacked someone
I think it's most likely that the victim was Jeremy Fitzgerald
We could also imply that Michael Afton was the character we played as, this would explain how FNAF 2 was set in 1987. As you researched before mine cannot speak, move, or problem solving. We know that Scott (creator) hasn’t always exactly been perfect with medical accuracy but we can certainly assume this is not Michael. Fitzgerald can be confirmed as a character but a side character. Due to the fact pointed out that he was sent to day shift where the bite occurred. - So sorry if this was already mentioned >_< : Tysm if you read!
5:14 the way you perfectly timed him saying "stare" along with Toy Bonnie staring at you is such a cool yet subtle detail
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"they just.. stare.." T. Bonnie: well hello there.
@@taki7346 😪🥶🤪😜😝😂
inget freddy did the bite of 83
It's nice knowing am not the only one who noticed that :)
I believe that those handprints on Freddy's face are actually from the bear himself. In the West Hall corner, there is a rare chance that the Freddy poster hung up on the wall will change to a poster of Freddy pulling his own head apart, with his hands in the exact same positions as the handprints on his head in the photo.
also an important argument against the hand thing is: its the right hand on the left eye and thus the left hand on his lower jaw which is very unlikely if u fight against smth and then you wouldnt cross ur arms in such a weird way
game theory 2.0
Genius
@@I_eat_skz_fans but doesn't the handprint have 5 fingers? freddy in the first game has 4.
@@IUseRandomPfps o- You're right lol, srry
5:15 i love how the word stare syncs with bonnie opening his eyes, attention to detail man
5:13 That gave me chills. Bonnie opening his eyes when PG said "they just. *Stare.*
The bite was probably caused by one of the toy animatronics, because they were noted to have gotten more aggressive, even at daytime. My guess is that it might have been Mangle, because she was torn up by the children. This could lead her to do this because of two reasons. First reason is that because of how damaged she was, she could have malfunctioned, and bit the child. The second reason is that she held a grudge, and couldn't take the pain anymore. I don't blame Mangle, though. If I got torn up by children, I would be mad too.
but their mouths are so tiny
@@Pyro_03 still
I wod play dea...
i believe it was a child bitten, but jeremy had to go threw lots of therapy probs
It was Fredbear the animatronic
I've always thought it was Mangle, and since the mystery of the bite has been silently dropped, we'll never get any evidence disproving Mangle and no other animatronic fits the bill as well so my verdict is that it had to have been Mangle. As for who killed the Phone Guy, I loved how you were able to use sound to determine who it was, I think there aren't many people out there who really think about the fact that Phone Guy was in your office at the time of his death, so game rules and sounds apply, I've never really seen an analysis like that. However ii still think Golden Freddy killed him, just the fact that he can jumpscare the player and end their game in both Fnaf 1 and 2 proves he can kill and interact with physical objects to a degree. Also its possible that the Fnaf 1 GF is not exactly the same as Fnaf 2 GF, we know that two souls inhabit GF, Cassidy and Cryingchild, it's possible that Fredbear/Fnaf 1 GF represents CC and Cassidy is represented by Fnaf 2 GF so different ghostly rules apply. Since Fnaf 1 GF only disappears and reappears as apposed to having a floating head appear in a hallway, it could suggest a more physical presence than Fnaf 2 GF. But that's just my interpretation, since Chica was in the office at the time of the attack its always possible that she held him in place while Golden Freddy actually did the deed, but I'll let you decide what you think
I personally think there was no bite I think the company forcefully removed someones frontal lobe after discovering secret then removed it and created the whole bite of 87 situation to cover it up
I think it was ennard become of the multiple sounds
If it was Golden Freddy then where is the little girls laugh in the call
I mean foxy, in fnaf 1 he’s out of order, could be why
The part when chica held him in place was pretty clever ngl
Bro really ruled out the puppet before the paper pals 💀💀💀
It also makes sense for Mangle to be the culprit because phone guy said "stay close to the animatronics make sure they hurt anyone" and Mangle is literally torn apart and is the one to most likely to hurt someone due to malfunction sense her circuits are scrambled.
5:42 Yeah, I personally believe that Jeremy Fitzgerald is the only night guard without any prior affiliations with fazbear entertainment. He's just a regular guy with no idea what's coming for him.
Yea. Why do ppl ship him with Michael?
@@cramcooki5567 yeah Micheal is a teenager lol Jeremy is an adult I think this ship doesn't work
Well no In 1983 he was like 18 or something, and so that would make him like 23 in 1987. But yes i agree it is a terrible ship and i don’t understand how ppl came up with it. 😑
There’s multiple things we need to know. Withered Bonnie, Balloon Boy and The Puppet get eliminated because of no functioning jaws to bite with. The Withereds can’t do it, because if they did, the toy animatronics wouldn’t get scrapped, the older models would. That eliminates Freddy, Chica and Foxy. Then the Toy models. I doubt Toy Bonnie. His jaw doesn’t open that far. Might scrape a bit of your head, but thats it. Same goes for Toy Freddy. I also doubt Toy Chica. Can she open her beak? She can remove her beak, but can she open it substantially? That leaves Mangle. The perfect culprit. Close to the kids and the adults. Kids keep taking her apart, Jeremy tells the kids not to mess with Mangle, boom, Mangle strikes.
@KimberleeT That took place in the current newest pizzeria
Ye, and with her jumpscare she bites your head, where the FRONTAL lobe is
Wrong. It was obviously trash in the gang who did it
It’s definitely not the withered animatronics because think of it. Withered. not the 1993/1990 animatronics Small theory: maybe W. foxy did the bite but fazbear entertainment blamed the toy animatronics maybe because they thought that the animatronics weren’t working out or something plus the employees said that the toy animatronics were acting creepy around them or something idk.
Another thing is the withereds can only move at night, and the bite happened during the daytime
School starts in 10 minutes for me, but I still have enough time to watch this
Это очень интересная теория/анализ. Вы приводите много доказательств и ваши слова звучат убедительно. Конечно, грустно что мы не скоро узнаем правду, но это даёт нам повод продолжать размышлять и делать новые выводы.
I always though the Bite of 87 was a Lobotomy Coverup where an employee saw the Withered Animatronics with dead children in them but since Fazbear Entertainment wasn’t gonna shut down another restaurant the Employee was Lobotomised
That's an interesting Theory even though I don't think it's true it's still a interesting take on the FNAF series if it was true even though I doubt it
Wut
It's a massive company with (a) sorted history. Of course they would want to protect their reputation. So they could do shady underhanded things to cover up their past so that is a plausibly.
That's actually really interesting.
And in fnaf6 in the insanity ending they give you a lobotomy because you saw some secrets
Also, consider the following: Foxy is thought to be, even by the employees, the most dangerous animatronic of the original four, with sharp teeth and a metal hook. Other Foxy's keep the tradition of looking stabby like, but that's because they look like FNaF 1 Foxy. Mangle, on the other head, looks way too nice and friendly to ever be considered scary, with a white and pink body color palette and red rosy cheeks. Funtime Foxy also looks a bit like Mangle, albeit with more parts everywhere. Funtime Foxy actually has no hooks, if you notice; both are hands. But how do both Mangle and Funtime Foxy attack when they get you? They appear from below/top and open their mouths wide. If they can't claw you, then they'll have to bite off, keeping the Foxy tradition of being dangerous. Edit: Forgot to write this here but Mangle's circuits and body parts being mish-mashed by kids could also explain the hostility of Mangle, allowing her for maybe even sharper teeth than they seem. I dunno, they took out an eye and put on a freaking head on him from nowhere, so really these kids' magic have no limits to whatever they feel like pulling out of their asses.
They just stuff you in a suit then ig
Wtf, foxy looks like an adorable plush compared to Mangle, in it's withered Form ofcourse.
In the unlockable character viewer, Toy Foxy (the unbroken version of Mangle), technically has two heads, as it has a parrot on its shoulder (a callback to the pirate theme, I suppose). This explains a few, though certainly not all, of the seemingly anomalous features seen in the final state of Mangle.
Ah yes, the time-honored tradition of the Foxy Clan; being a menace to society.
>Named Charlie >Immediately disqualifies Puppet as a potential biter Damn I wonder if there's any bias involved there 😆
Reasons why I think it’s Mangle: She has a large enough jaw She can open it big enough No, it isn’t Withered Foxy, since he is deactivated in Parts/Service during day Mangle can be the ONLY animatronic to dangle on walls and knowing now that the bite was on the Frontal Lobe, she might have swung down from the ceiling and bite him.
Personally, I think the night guard bit himself to he wouldn't have to witness the awful ships.
That funny
The true TRUE ending
@@Lay_ray simple really. Just remove your jaw and use it like a vice
@@Lay_ray *I a m h e r e t o a n s w e r t h a t h u m a n s a r e a v e r y i n t e l l i g e n t s p e c i e s.*
Really bro
In an alternate universe "And then there was the Bite Of 87, yeah, it's incredibly confusing how a character like (*insert character name here*) could bite an entire frontal lobe off."
Balloon Boy lmfao
In an alternate universe "And then there was the Bite Of 87, yeah, it's incredibly confusing how a character like witherd Bonnie could bite an entire frontal lobe off."
@@chippdbanjo notice the exo-teeth are blunt. Even Mangle's end in a blunt top rather than perfect points like the Nightnares' teeth. The endo-teeth, however... at least in the models during 1987 are sharp. Mangle's long snout and well as dysfunctional jaw would make biting a human head hard. Toy Chica? Remove the beak. Bam. Endo teeth OUT. Further proof could be the refurbished ones have DULL endo teeth, and Chica (FNAF 1) cannot remove her beak. And they aren't allowed to leave the stage. It also had to have been a toy because the toys were scrapped.
"And then there was the Bite of '87... Yeah, turns out the Paper Pals had little tiny razor teeth all along... We had to use over a dozen pairs of scizzors to stop those monsters..."
@@chippdbanjo Withered Bonnie had his face missing before the Bite even happened.
I think that it was one of these animatronics, toy bonnie, toy chica, or mangle. My reason is that all of them attack the frontal lobe (or the head) like mangle comes from above, toy chica says her beak is logged in our head, and toy bonnie lunges at us
In five nights at Freddy’s one, the phone guy also says that it’s against the rules to have an endoskeleton without a costume on. I’m pretty sure it was most likely on night one.
I always took it as mangle due to how he swoops down but I’ve always liked her as a character due to his name, design (not in a weird way), and just the unique gameplay mechanic she introduced.
lmfao i love the wording in this comment
Love how you switch from he/him and she/her
both female and male nouns while talking about mangle, i see what you did there :)
mangle is female :)
@@youaretooyoungtofallasleep1009 Scott himself uses both pronouns, so you’re objectively wrong
I'd like to add onto the evidence for Mangle a bit: during the phone call where he brings up the party, Phone Guy mentions to not let people near the animatronics (or something to that effect). However, since Freddy, Bonnie, and Chica would be on stage, it's unlikely anyone would be getting close enough to get bitten by one of them-but Mangle, as a take-apart-and-put-together attraction, would be getting close enough to bite someone. Love the video, and great video ♥️
If chica was reserved for birthday parties she would be up and close to the guests
Well, before the bite, they would have been allowed to get off the stage and wander around. Remember - Phone Guy says they used to be allowed to wander before the bite.
@@chieff_T yeah but she doesnt really have a proper mouth which can really bite since she has a beak, worst she could do is just like crush an arm or something
Wanna know something? If you listen to the noise mangle makes, it's a radio convo with two security guards. During this convo, we hear "We have a kid without a frontal lobe!"
the gamble that the mangle plays is a stock audio but modified
i love that half of this video is just him repeating things
And than you realize the phone calls were prerecorded. Though yeah the call asking what you're doing there (can't remember if it was night 5 or 6) had to have been made in the present as you're playing since he wouldn't know you were at all. Also about the Phone guy death, honestly the scream makes it likely that it was Golden cause it's his scream. Considering that Foxy was banging and Freddy had the music box, Phone Guy might have been in the kitchen. We may not be able to leave the office during the night but he can Holding the door shut with Goldie being the only one able to kill him. Maybe that's why the camera's broken his body's in the kitchen and they tried to destroy the evidence. -starbonnie
honestly to me this is the most convincing theory, I'd never even considered that he might not even be in the office
@@MarvelousButter Guess the fact he was using a phone made people assume so but it makes sense giving the circumstances and in game mechanics. Gives a reason for the broken camera too. Literally thought of it while watching this :P -starbonnie
I agree
I never realized this
@@MarvelousButter Golden Freddy is in the office he just gets seen when you active his easter egg he is just turned off
if it was mangle, she really do be like "im done with you crap"
I also think that it's mangle because why the toy animatronics get destroyed and the withereds get move to the fnaf 1 location. It means that one of the toy animatronics cause the bite. The only logical candidate is mangle
Could be withered chica I mean she does have blood on her top jaw of her endo
@@Mr.StopMotion yeah but its established that none of the withereds did it
@@Glitch1718 yea your right I posted that before watching the full vid it’s probably from the stuffed kid
@@Mr.StopMotion oh lol that makes scence
"non of the fun times will be included" Toy funtime foxy as mangle: are you sure about that.
I honestly think there’s a good chance the Bite of 87 was retconned altogether. All the lead up to FNaF 4 pointed towards it being about the Bite of 87, with the teasers saying “Was it me? Or me?” And with Fredbear being the culprit of the bite of 83, and Golden Freddy appearing when putting 1/9/8/7 into fnaf 1 custom night, and the numbers 8 and 7 being in the source code for fnaf 4 teasers, and the fact that the bite of 87 is never mentioned again and seemingly unimportant, unless it was retconned to be 1983 and the victim possibly indirectly caused the murders. Scott has confirmed that there has been one major retcon in the series (after SL came out iirc?) and I think it’s possible that the retcon was either the Bite of 87 or Dream Theory
5:11 I like how toy Bonnie opened his eyes as phone guy said stare, was that intentional? I hope
It was actually intentional. Thank you for noticing that detail.
@@charliedixon4465 cool
@@Vixinity82 Hello!
I Aldo noticed that
It was actually terrifying
The animatronics don't see you as a endo skeleton this has been obvious since 2014, hell bonnie in fnaf 1 walks past a endo skeleton and did absolutely nothing.
Or the animatronics are bias and only stuff you because you get to leave
Bonnie is a dum dum.
I think it was because he wasn’t outside of the parts and service where all the guest wouldnt be at. Not 100% sure but could be a conclusion.
@@jamesmylife6578 but how would he know that the backstage room was somewhere the guests didn't go?
@@horn_and_halo becouse he got programmed to see that part of the pizzeria a Place where he should not go and he can go there only when the soul control him
5:15 I like how when phone guy says stare toy bonnie immediately opens their eyes
I Love The Thumbnail Because Fredbear Is Crossed Out But Toy Freddy, Springbonnie, The Balloon Kids, The Puppet, And The Paper Pals Are Definitely Suspects
Can we talk about how genuinely scared phone guy was to hear that someone used the spring bonnie suit
wdym
RIGHT, it makes me wonder what he knows about the murders
@@proud_2b_427 when he says it he sounds shocked, scared
Its so odd how The Bite of 87 honestly does not have that much significance in the plot at all. I just feel like it's just supposed to be some scary thing just to be scary personally. But honestly, the Bite of 87 I believe is linked to actually trying to fix Mangle back together by the staff and that managed to fail.
The bite is literally why fnaf 2 ended
@@androognoix1685 and im pretty sure the restaurant was due to close because of missing kids
@@SkullzDied That's true because in the game it was hinted (Sorry don't remember rn where) that the pizzeria is closing to the years end and i think it was also hinted at some point that the party was the last to be held in the pizzeria before closing(Don't remember the point of time this was hinted either tho)
Actually mangle doesnt only have a static sound but a broken radio like sound And you can hear that in the radio a police officer says that a kid got bitten and his frontal lobe is missing and things arent looking great
@@bodorerik9014to be fair Scott used stock sounds for the first few nights
Game theory needs to hire you.
If Toy Bonnie did the bite, the pizzeria would need three garbage bags, a shovel, some disinfectant, some latex gloves, and oregano.
There's two details you forgot: Mangle is a canine controlled anamotronic. They were a result of Afton learning to use remnant. They were given a voice in UCN due to fan's arguing about it's gender so you hear both in its speech. Hilarious. Golden Freddy is controlled by two souls - Cassidy (the vengeful child of UCN) and crying child (Afton's youngest son). There is no endoskeleton in his suit. He most likely left an opening for Chica. (Also yes, the second teeth are indeed of her endoskeleton)
Hello.
William is a smart killer
Wait I got a question do the soul of the kids control the toy anima Tronics
the “mangle is a dog” theory actually hasn’t been proven! it’s just a matpat theory iirc
@@cheerytears yea no actual empirical evidence. Mostly just circumstantial
5:15 The timing on Bonnie is just so perfect
Yeah he djd good at timing that
“But when they encounter an adult, they just stare” and then toy Bonnie opens his eyes just as phone guys says stare. Best unintentional timing ever.
Amazing
Another reason why Mangle may br the victim: Shes the only one who theoretically could probably do very serious damage to someone, sue to having a large mouth and sharp teeth
But he can't attack from down
There is no way for the costume teeth to do so serious damage. It could have only been the endoskeleton theeth.
Withered Freddy is the most active (jk lol it's Withered Foxy) Withered Freddy is the least withered animatronic he can walk and talk well. Even tho he is the least damaged.
@@dani-boy6420 *The originals DIDN'T cause the bite.*
@@dzidkapl but still, none of toy animatronics accept mangle can fit children head in their mouths. Plus, of course costume teeth cant so damage like the real beasts teeth, but dont forget that mangle is still an robot, who can squeese someone in jaws pretty easely cause of the fact that robots is stronger than human. The bite was called so, because it is the most logical name for such an incident. The animal-like robot squeezed the child's head between its teeth, how would you call that?
"i have a slightly shorter video for you today" *looks at length* *34 minutes* SLIGHTLY SHORTER YOU SAY? tho seriously I'm glad you're making long uploading they are really good.
imma say something random
BEANS
@@winstonscott8572 ah yes BEanS
34 but add rule before it and say of circus never mind
@@cruixxv290 get out
I always believe it was Mangle. As you stated it is kinda impossible for Foxy or Freddy to be ones since they were locked away in Parts and Service during the day. The other Toys I don't think would really have caused the bite. Plus Toy Chica's line could be referring to how she kills the Night Guard. With Mangle being most likely as stated she would have a reason to cause the bite since she was abused so much would most likely hates all humans espically kids. Poor Mangle. She probably only wanted to make children happy at first. (Yes I see Mangle as Female don't argue with me with that.)
I don’t think it’s Mangle because of a few big reasons: The Phone Guy told Jeremy to stay near the animatronics during his day shift, and where are most of the animatronics? The Show Stage. Mangle is being taken apart by children, so they couldn’t do anything unless they were quick enough to escape the children (An unlike the logic in SFM animations, Mangle couldn’t have used the force to pull themselves back together). The bite victim couldn’t have been a child either because according to Phone Guy again, the animatronics interacted with the kids perfectly fine. Another thing, the way the jumpscare is positioned makes it to where Mangle bit off Jeremy’s entire face instead of just the frontal lobe. Mangle’s jaw size also is too big to do solely damage to the frontal lobe, unless they didn’t use their entire jaw to bite the victim, there’s no way they could have done it.
Bruh, this just convinced me that mangle did it even more.
@@SG-jc1pe mangle can crawl on ceilings, they could crawled to the main stage and then chomped on jeremy's forehead
Mangle has always been my favorite animatronic. Her schtick is just so unique and the fact that he's so uniquely tortured by her role as a "pull apart and put together" animatronic adds extra intrigue to the character. I also wonder if maybe Foxy's "Out of Order" sign and the general belief from a lot of staff that he's uniquely dangerous could be related to Mangle causing the bite - as they see Foxy as a different version of Mangle and therefore just as potentially dangerous.
Hey it wasn’t mangle that did the bite
Charlie Dixon was wrong about his belief
@@nathanaeltaylor690 and you are not even using the actual fnaf wiki for proof
He was wrong it was toy Bonnie
@@nathanaeltaylor690 popgoes isnt a canon game it's a fangame
I personally think it's Toy Chica. She can remove her beak so the endo teeth, the ones that would actually deal damage (A sword made out of plastic sucks compared to actual metal.) so it would make less sense for somebody like Toy Freddy with their big snouts to be able to deal enough damage to straight up remove a frontal jaw. This is also why I don't think Mangle could've done it, she has the most amount of plastic teeth so her endo teeth would be the least exposed. Also, Mangle gets tore apart everyday. Her jaw would be quite bad. The kids have to had messed with her head since one of her eyes are messed up. Toy Chica has A. Easy access to actually sharp teeth B. The easiest place to bite people, most people would be at the stage. C. A jaw joint that hasn't been beaten up. These points are why I think Toy Chica did it.
there’s also the motif of toy chica’s bib and her characters association with food that may be hinting or foreshadowing a bite! its kinda overlooked which is really upsetting bc i think it’s one of the most unsettling uses of silent storytelling in the franchise - the implication that she’ll eat you. plus one of scots clues was literally “why is toy chica missing her beak?” and i don’t think that’s ever been solved?
@@user-xh8tl1su6x that clue was relating to fnaf 4 in the minigames between nights
the question is. can a head fit in the area of where Toy Chica's beak is removed?
Also, during a stream, Scott posed the question as to why Toy Chica is missing her beak. I think after people kept saying it was Mangle, he tried throwing more evidence out to it being Toy Chica, especially with the UCN line.
toy chica doesn’t have a jaw though after her beak is removed so how could she bite down?
I've been falling asleep to fnaf videos for some time now holy this is one of the best theories break downs ever, I believed in the 1983 bite even tough I thought that the only evidence was the tv screen and u made so many more convincing arguments, really great job gotta catch up on more vids from u!
i know this is like 1 year ago but i think that the handprints of freddy are actually the handprints of freddy himself as in cam 2b sometimes the freddy poster will turn into freddy opening his upper jaw and is extremely unnerving. Suggest that gabriel is trying to escape freddy.
Here’s why I think it’s Mangle ultimately: If one of the original bit them (which the old ones shouldn’t even be OUT during the party lol) there’s no way those old models would later be redesigned to the FNAF 1 location. Phony Guy wants the guy to carefully watch the animatronics to “make sure nothing goes wrong” this would entail to the “FUNCTIONING” animatronics, we would assume the party would take place in the main dining room so try all of the toys to perform for the kids, and with Toy Freddy, Chica, and Bonnie all present, including BB and Puppet, there’s only ONE animatronic that was NOT present! Mangle stays in KID COVE! Also, people say Mangle is just a take apart/put back together attraction now, so they could assume they wouldn’t really need to watch out for her since she’s not even physically capable of doing anything, or so they thought… Here’s comes to the final evidence that PROVES it was Mangle! Mangle can crawl on ceilings, and kids and adults would be focused at the party and the animatronics performing, and of course, if the security guard (the one who got locked in the pizzeria on night 6) was having to watch on the animatronics, he would’ve been able to get away from the animatronics if they decided to start attacking him, as he’s supposed to be keeping a close eye on them! BUT! Nobody is checking mangle as there is no need to! And this ultimately shows how the security guard lost his frontal lobe… JUST LIKE FNAF 2, MANGLE COULD’VE DANGLED RIGHT ABOVE THE GUARD, AND THEN BITE ONTO HIM WITH NOBODY NOTICING! To recap, here’s the reasons why I KNOW it’s Mangle! 1: None of the old animatronics coulda done it cause they were broken down therefor wouldn’t be at the party, this also would make sure the old models were gone for good IF they DID do it! 2: Bb and Puppet don’t have mouths able to do that, and they are attractions so somebody would’ve noticed them. 3: The main 3 were performing on stage while being watched closely by the security guard in the purple uniform. 4: Mangle was the only one not where the party was being held, so nobody had to bother keeping an eye on her, plus, she’s mangled up so they, again, can assume Mangle wasn’t physically capable to even more around at all. 5: An animatronic fox jaw would definitely be able to cause fracture to your frontal lobe knowing the animatronic’s design. 6: Mangle is able to crawl on the ceiling, which would prevent her from being noticed more easily. 7: Everyone else was focused on the other animatronics and the party, they would have no reason to look up at all to see Mangle crawling forward across the ceiling. 8: Mangle is logically the ONLY animatronic that could’ve done it based on where the animatronics were and what state they were in! 9: While the security guard would possibly be able to get away from a bite from the other animatronics that he’s right next to, watching over, he wouldn’t notice Mangle, so he wouldn’t have ANY way to to escape her bite on him! And Finally…The Key Evidence…! *10: Notice how up to this point every animatronic has been used in the same restaurants, despite being on display, or even just for parts? Well, in the FNAF 1 pizzeria, there was no trace of the toy animatronics AT ALL! Just the old models! This is because MANGLE was a toy animatronic! So when she BIT out his frontal lobe in 1987, the company would completely scrap the toy animatronics, for safety precautions, and to avoid future law suits!* With all of this info, MANGLE, WITHOUT A DOUBT, WAS THE CAUSE OF THE BITE OF 1987!!!! >:D
well done! this is quite reasonable.
I actually agree with this!
This is pretty reasonable, and it makes sense. You actually made believe that it could have been Mangle. :D
I see one little problem here, Chica was not on the stage, she was giving out cake or something like that.
Sure, the withereds aren't supposed to leave parts and service for the day but... Literally every night they open the door of parts and service and go out to attack you, who says they can't do the same for the day xD
I've actually been a Toy Chica accuser since FnaF 2 originally came out, due to the fact Toy Freddy/Bonnie have heavily obstructed jaws. Sure, they could _absolutely_ rip your face up but they'd never be able to chomp down on a skull hard enough to remove part of your brain, but Toy Chica (and Mangle, of course) absolutely have that capability.
But toy chica’s endoskeleton mouth is still obstructed so it’s impossible for her to even bite anyone. Mangle’s mouth actually opens fully for the endoskeleton to bite down.
And toy chica says in UCN “where’s my beak lodge in your forehead of course”
@@jaxsonsnell4306 yes,execptshe was saying that to William Afton
Mangle is not even worth mentioning, cuz she was locked out like the withereds and there was no acess to anyone, the closest suspects are T.Chica and BB, but BB Has no endo so Toy Chica is the one who coused it
I think Toy Chica cant even bite since her beak is obviously loose and thus prob doesnt make much damage and her actual mouth is just a hole and immovable
I always thought toy Bonnie did it, since I believe the shadows have something to do with agony (example: shadow Freddy, agony from the missing children who were stuffed in the animatronic bodies, therefore shadow Freddy is the agony of Gabriel’s, Cassidy’s or possibly crying child’s death), and then we have shadow Bonnie. If he was formed by agony, like shadow Freddy then something must have happened in order for him to become a corrupted sorrowful figure of his original form, which led me to think he caused the bite, bringing shadow Bonnie to existence as agony of previous events (AKA the bite of 87).
In the bonus theory, I think there actually can still be an argument for Freddy. When your power runs out, animatronics cannot attack, except for Foxy on rare occasions. But since Foxy had knocked so much already, it's safe to assume he returned to his curtains by this point. The power goes out, Freddy plays his music box, and while that happens Chica and Bonnie can't attack.
Freddy's Handprints are him ripping his head off in the easter egg because his jaw is on his right and for you it would be your left and he would put his hand across his eye and to rip the top off he would grab the outside and inside his jaw thats why you can't see fingerprints on the jaw print and then he would break his head... -Confusing Facts 2069 😜😉
Bro I like your pfp
That would make more sense to why there was only four fingers I guess.
But how does a robot leave a handprint
@@ChaoticJester maybe it wasn’t a print. but the phone guy said they haven’t been washed so maybe it was dirt or something like that.
@@ChaoticJester well maybe the "fur" was folded the opposite way that the rest of it was
I think it’s toy chica, due to the fact that she loses her beak all the time and she has the voice line Where’s my beak? Lodged in your forehead of course.
And beakless toy Chica also appear in the secret boss of Fury's rage that is supposed to represent all the unsolved mysteries of the story. I also think that it's Chica, Foxy and Mangle are way too obvious and if such an accident happened with an animatronics like that I doubt they would have kept the design of sharp teeth in the new Foxy
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Good theory
@@evalinksarchives4045 the toy chica beak from fury's rage is a reference to the toy chica beak in fnaf 4 it has nothing to do with the bite
Good point
The bite of 83 wouldn't have happened if the crying child wasn't crying because his tears set off the springlocks and chomp bye bye
Well he couldn’t help it he was terrified of the animatronics and he also didn’t know that
@@mev1221 ik im just saying
You know what always pissed me off? The fact that FNAF4 wasted it's chance to show the bite of 87, and arbitrarily made it a SECOND BITE (technically happening before 87) for NO reason! Thanks Scott, thanks for never answering this big mystery for us...
I don’t think the bite of ‘87 could be that important to the story and besides some things are better left forgotten, forever
@ReddX how about you shut up?
@ReddX okay loser
@ReddX go back to TikTok
@ReddX cause you type like one
I believe it's Mangle because it makes the most sense to me.
Yes I agree because when yes jumpscares you yes bites your face but wait was Mange active during the day?? Because they said the Mangle was part of a pull or take a part attraction
@@ElectricMan3444 of course she was active in the day all the toy animatronics are active in a day
@trollge Thanks you for information I was asking because they said that Mange was a toy where the kids would take her apart and put her back together so I didn’t know if Mangle was on during that time BUT THANKS YOU FOR INFORMATION
@@ElectricMan3444 you're welcome
I believe that too because mangle bites in Jumpscares and crawls on the ceiling at the perfect angle to damage their brain when biting the night guard
I also beleive that the attack was coordinated amongst them, with Foxy notifying the others by banging, Freddy playing his music box to distract Phone Guy, Bonnie and Chica BOTH moaning, and Golden Freddy appearing as Phone Guy lowers his camera, killing him.
Awesome video!!! Also I subbed :) also I believe either it was Foxy or Golden Freddy and why I think them, Foxy because he is the most agressive out of all of the Animatronics thus is why he could be most likely to attack and in my opinion more likely than Mangle to have caused the bite, Golden Freddy because he throws his head at you thus would cause a bite, thus is why I think its those two, and I respect your opinion about Mangle causing ut
But gf can’t even stand up and walk so he wouldn’t be an attraction at fnaf 2
Funny's line ever "the act of retribution that is the bite of 87."
Wat
"Its amazing that the human body can live without the frontal lobe" -Phone Guy
What I want to know is that when where the Toy Animatronics commissioned for use so we can properly clear out the old Freddy Fazbear animatronics.
One thing I realized about Golden Freddy and Springtrap that is weird compared to later games is that they were spare suits and weren't repurposed or even changed to not be springlocks suits or anything. Every other animatronic either seems to be reused or recycled after Fnaf 2. The Funtimes are made from Remnant from the original 4 or 5, or at least are in the books. Springtrap was eventually reused as a prop but way after Freddy's has closed. The Scraps were even reused and even the Rockstars and Mediocre Melodies and other animatronics and side creations were implied to be recycled or used from previous Pizzarias or from the original Freddy's animatronic parts or at least some of the parts. Golden Freddy, being a phantom that takes the form of the current Freddy due to likely manipulation of their target's mind, obviously due to being unable to actually move, is pretty much the only one in the original four games to not be reused in any way. The first 2 had him as a spare FNAF 3 didn't have him at all physically or spiritually, and FNAF 4's is just a kid's twisted nightmare of him that escalates to Nightmare himself after the bite fully occurs.
Interesting theory, old sports! I've always been thinking that the culprit was Toy Chica, mostly because I always had the thought that during the show, Toy Freddy and Bonnie were occupied with singing and playing while she was the only one "free" to do anything, haha- Again, great video!
that plastic paultry's beak is too small the plastic fox on the other head has wide mouth and sharp theath
@@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780 Friendly reminder Toy Chica can remove her beak. If you look up close at both Foxy and Mangle's teeth, they're capped off in blunt edges rather than coming to a pure point like the nightmares' teeth. However, their endo-teeth were super sharp. We know it must have been a toy animatronic because the toys were scrapped. Mangle's long snout would have prevented the endo-teeth from piercing skin. Meanwhile, if Toy Chica had to do it, she could take off her beak and do it, which we know she can remove her beak. I came to the conclusion the endo teeth had to have been the set that did the damage because look at the classic animatronics (FNaF 1); their endo-teeth are flat and harmless by comparison. On top of that, Mangle's jaw doesn't seem to work. It is also implied that victim was Jeremy, since after night 6, on the Custom night, you play a different character named Fritz Smith. The buildup in the calls also makes sense, and at present, the toys don't seem to be possessed at all. The buildup being the toys not acting right around adults, and eventually leading to an attack. This can also be used to explain why the classic Chica can't remove her beak, and why most of them had upper teeth removed (friendly reminder that Freddy, Bonnie and Chica don't have upper teeth in FNaF 1. On top of that, Mangle wasn't the only toy animatronic to come into physical contact with people; they were allowed to move a out the restaurant as they pleased. As for Foxy being out of order in the first? That's probably because they assumed he would be too scary. But it's really up to the imagination since a clear answer was never given. And at this point, I doubt there will be at this point.
@@themaskedtalker2171 the other toy anintronics have tiny mouths mangle has one that can actully fit a head in it
@@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780 Yes, but, that would be more of a crushing. And they just need to take a small chunk out of the head, not eat the entire head.
@@bigpoggers6507 the frontal lobe is literally the biggest part of the brain
I can't believe that people sometimes confuse the bite of '83 and the bite of '87
It's Mark's fault "WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87!? "
@@dani-boy6420 that was old vid and we didnt know snything st the time but most people should know now
Why the most people think that fredbear caused the bite of 87 I mean it's confirmed that is the bite of 83
@@user-gh2yh8yg9b Fredbear just malfunction it's Mike's fault.
@@user-gh2yh8yg9b ya i know that
Very analytical approach to something that most people don’t cover with this level of detail. I think your conclusion is probably the most likely one. Also, the way you went about refuting the date FNAF 4 took place was very intelligent. Enjoy this incredibly late sub and like 🫡
in UCN one of tou chicas voicelines are "lets go somewhere private... so i can eat you!" meaning she does actually want to at least eat someone
5:11 The timing on that last word was impressive
Dang, I was almost 100% sure it was caused by the desk fan.