How to Fix a Jittering Scroll Wheel (& Razer Deathadder Elite Dissasembly)
2023 ж. 11 Мау.
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Today I will show how to fix a glitchy mouse scroll wheel, a problem that also seems to plague a lot of razer mice. Keep in mind that you will likely need to take apart your mouse for this.
My niche hobby is fixing gaming mices (I fixed dozens of them for my friends, family members etc.), so here I am with few words of my unsolicited advice... Part which you were repairing is called "mouse wheel encoder". Almost every mouse on the market today is prone to scroll jittering after some time of mouse use (1-3 years typically), because there are microscopic metal shavings which accumulate inside encoder on the contacts of encoder wheel (it's the part you was cleaning in the video)... they are causing false connections between contacts when encoder parts are moving (rotating). The rule of thumb is - the more you scroll, the sooner those metal shavings will accumulate there and sooner you'll encounter jittering during scrolling. So it's a good practice to not use wheel to scroll web pages (use MMB or scrollbars instead) and use wheel only when absolutely necessary (in games), so you preserve it's lifespan as much as possible. Only mices which are imune to scroll jittering are the ones with optical encoders. Sadly, novadays those are only few models from Logitech with "infinite scroll" feature... rest of the mices on the market (99.99%) have mechanical encoders (like this one in the video), which are ALL prone to scroll jittering after some time of use. Why almost every mouse manufacturer use them? Because they are cheap, easy to implement in the mouse design and it's a good thing for manufacturer (planned obsolence), so you have to buy a new mouse every 2-3 years. Sigh. Anyways - if you want to fix a problem with this type of mechanical encoder properly, you have to change it for a new piece. Blowing, disassembling, cleaning with isopropyl etc. of the old one are temporary fixes which usually last few months only. Those new encoders can be bought really cheap from Aliexpress (just search for "mouse wheel encoder"), they are like $1-2/piece. You just have to know *exact* height of your encoder, it is measured in millimiters from the base of encoder to center of the hole (search for "mouse wheel encoder height" on Google and switch to images... you'll get it). Typical height of encoders in the last generations of DeathAdders is 14mm, but it can vary from model to model, so double check it to be 100% sure when buying it. My advice is to buy few pieces (3 - 4) to have some stock of them for future repairs... they are really cheap, so why not ;) When you get them, disassembly your mouse, desolder old encoder, clean holes on the pcb, solder in a new piece and assembly mouse together. It's not that hard, but it's not easy either. People are mostly struggling with desoldering, because there are 5 contacts which are almost impossible to heat at the same time with regular soldering iron, so if you didn't do it before, watch some YT tutorials how to do it with ChipQuick, soldering wick, desoldering pump etc., or ask someone with good soldering/desoldering skills to do it for you. Soldering new encoder in place is relatively easy then. Pro tip for desoldering of mouse encoder - if you have soldering gun (not iron.... GUN), it's matter of seconds with custom made soldering tip to desolder it, because you'll be able to heat all 5 contacts *AT ONCE* - here is a video from my 2nd YT account for that -> kzhead.info/sun/qbZ6lJiQoWZ6YIk/bejne.html Good luck.
thank you so much!
@@BlueSkyEyes np, bro.
This is 5 times more helpful than a guy with a video going, "Umm... Uhhh..." So thank you very much even if this is not the news I wanted to hear. 🫤
THIS!
Well I think it's the sticky condition of the mouse wheel encoder you are talking about. In some countries including Asia is hard to find all these parts, my advice is just to roll a little piece of metal or any substance which can attach to the mouse wheel permanently. Per my experience, I use glue gun to fill the piece and make it more contactable between the wheel and the encoder. And guess it works as it improves the tightness.
Thank you for making this! I haven’t worked on my mouse yet, but this tutorial gave me faith that I wouldn’t have to run out and buy a new mouse. Thank you so much! ❤️
Hey look, I love the fact that you took time out of your day to fix possibly the number one problem most people are having with razor deathadders (I actually dont know about most people but I do know it is my number one problem) which has earned you a sub by me but can you please upload a video like this without the music? I just find it hard to focus on the important part of the video when there is music in the background, but anyways thank you for uploading this video and i hope you have a great day today!
This is my first time trying to fix an electronic thing by myself which I never dared to do before but because your video is showing such a calm explanation so that I finally can fix my Deathadder after suffering from the glitchy of the wheel for months. Glad to found this video before deciding to buy a new one! haha
I'm glad to have helped!
Thanks for the help. Apparently a SINGLE hair was stuck down in the scroll wheel. Had to spray air at it for like 2 minutes before it dislodged.
Thanks mate it was really helpful, I was able to fix my Deathadder with this guide, the key not to break those pins are bending them very very slowly both in an out, just be extra careful and slow!
Good to know. I'm glad I was able to help!
Thank you so much I followed ur instructions and amazingly got my deathadder fixed! Ive tried to clean up the dust and cat hair stuck inside the mouse by myself before, but not as thoroughly as how you did it in the video. Now it's really fixed and the scroll wheel works great!
did you usewd40 ? if yes is it still good working man ?
damn bruh just stumbled upon your video so i tried the same. Disassembly, cleaning everything. now fixed. You deserve a medal my dude
I have Razer Viper 8khz and i had the same issue. Tried blowing up but didn't work. I raged and went to the bathroom with my mouse. I washed it with just water, I also scrolled the wheel while doing that. After washing, I had to shake the mouse fast so little water drops came out of it, after that i dried it with towel. Lastly, I also used hairdryer in hot mode and with full speed to dry inside and out. Believe it or not, I connected the mouse after I was sure it's almost (or fully) dried and it worked. I know this is risky, but it worked for me and I tried that last night, tonight I'm still using without zero problems. I'm not taking responsibilty if you try and damage your components. It worked for me so I wanted to share.
Props for the video , I've just opened my Deathadder Essential . Literally had to go the last step and just open the sensor (almost broke it and totally remove any force feedback while scrolling) But now works just fine.
Ha, all I had to add was blow on the wheel to clear the sensor. That had been so annoying for weeks, I feel a bit daft but am so very grateful. Thanks!
No problem!
worked just by blowing into the wheel without even taking it apart! helped alot !
Ty, it helped me fix the wheel on my DA mini v2, another tip for anyone trying, the little plastic wheel that you take of the thing to clean, it has 3 little point arms inside it, make sure they're not all the way flattened inside the wheel, if they are, take something very sharp/thin and pull they up a little, if they're all flattened inside the wheel they might not trigger the scroll signal.
TYSM MAN I WAS GOING TO BUY A NEW RAZER MOUSE YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER
This worked on my Deathadder v2 Pro. Thanks bro!
Dude I just fixed my Ninjutso Katana, which is notorious for QC issues regarding this. I can use it again! Thanks sooo much!
Thank you so much for this! For the past few days I've been having to use my Deathadder Essential mouse for everything because the touchpad on my lenovo laptop isn't working anymore, and this has been bugging me so much! All I had to do was blow into the scroll wheel, and now it's working perfectly! Thank you!
i swear i was trying to fix it 4 5 months and the way worked thx
I did this and with just a little cleaning, it got fixed, Thank you so much.
No problem!
Thank you! This worked on my Deathadder Essential that I bought 2 months ago. I found what looked like tiny plastic shavings lodged in one of the 3 contacts on the rotating side of the sensor, other than that it was clean, seems like a factory defect. Thanks again, the scroll jumping was infuriating me!
has the problem resolved totally not annoying from anymore ?
Thanks for the video. It worked for me but without taking apart the scroll sensor. I just sprayed air and alcohol on the wheel and sensor. Now my wheel scrolls normally.
Great job!
this helped me so much the 1st 2 steps did it for me and i did not even have to disasemble it
My scroll wheel had become almost unusable, the contacts on the wheel were completely black. Now it works good as new thanks so much! I managed to do it without breaking the metal arms that hold the wheel in place
Hey thanks for the video; I did the full deep clean of my mouse (also a razer deathadder elite) and it fixed my problem. You saved me like $70!
I have razer death adder essential like it glitches whenever i want to go up or doun so i use a diff mouse for scrolling i was about to take it apart but as i was watching a tut i saw ur vid and it worked but the thisng is u have to blow air with ur mouth stuck to the scroll wheel area so that ur applying pressure to it
So instead of potentially breaking the sensor for the wheel i would suggest getting an ESD brush and some 91% IPA, with the ipa saturate the sensor and then go get the bristles into where the sensor is while scrubbing just to break up the debris that builds up and then hit it with canned/compressed air to dry it off
Thank you!! though when I took apart the scroll sensor to clean it, the scroll snapping/force feedback didn't work and the scroll wheel was moving freely. But, it works great! I've been struggling with this issue for so long.
I'm glad I was able to help! You may want to try the paper clip trick in the video or tightening it further if you want to regain force feedback. Just be careful not to break anything!
Thanks for the video! Fixed my mouse with your help. A tip for anyone else who doesn't want to bend the tabs: I just used a q-tip to express some iso-alcohol into the wheel sensor a few times, then used compressed air to blow out any debris. That fixed it for me. Might be worth trying before tab-bending as last resort.
Couldn't remove the sensor so i tried this and it worked, thanks!
Was looking for some mice shaped like old DeathAdder and stumbled upon your video. Remembered that one of the last of my faulty deathadders from 12 years ago must lay somewhere in the closet - decided to give it a try just for fun. Hadn't alcohol but thought that some Hilti spray for 'lubrication and cleaning' can't do harm, so cotton swab, just a drop of hilty to rub the wheel contacts - and after 3-4 full turns of the scroll wheel it began to work properly! Mouse which had a crazy wheel and wasn't used for 12 years - returned to life. Lol. Great success =) Edit: Somehow before writing this comment got wd40 can before my eyes and in the original comment typed wd40 without noticing it, but in reality I used Hilty spray for lubrication and cleaning.
Nice!
Thank you bro , you helped me alot it worked, I tried other methods but none of them worked but you are on another level 🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️
No problem!
thank you sooo much the first method worked u saved me from buying another mouse
holy shit bro, i was thinking i had to buy a new one, but u just fixed my problem, THX!!!
it worked on my essential v1, it was a haircomb on sensor
Thanks for the vid, for me worked at stage 1, to dismember and clean from cat stuff.
Got my mouse refurbished on Amazon. That sensor was super dirty. Great explanation. Mouse scrolling great now.
Glad to have helped you!
i didn't expect to fix it, but the results were so satisfactory, now i can still playing with this mouse that it was a gift, i appreciate it, thank, you earn my like, i wait that you can fallow help all people like me!! pdt: the mini scroll sensor of the mause was hard to take away, but there were my problem, i had had to clean there, it is my advice. i'm learning english, i hope speak clearly and helpful.
Hi, did this completely fix your mouse? Is the fix temporary or did you get the issue again? I have a Viper 8KHz that I was really hesitant to buy because my Mini had this same issue but I went for it anyways, and it's been only 3 weeks since buying it and this is starting to happen again :(
Thanks mate I did this fix minus the part about taking the sensor out and it seems to be working perfectly fine now!
Thanks for the vid it was a lot of help, my deathadder was reverse scrolling and jumpy so I did this exact process, the wheel encoder thing didnt have any dirt in it or anything. (its been only 2 months since i bought it anyway) the stick going thru the middle of the wheel had a slight bent on the encoder side but I dont know if it happened during my disassembly or if it was already there. So I fixed that and put it back together, it doesn't skip anymore but it has no increment like its very smooth if that makes sense. I am not gonna bother fixing that because it works now but im surprised it happened so quickly, my previous deathadder had no problems for 2.5 years almost.
Glad to hear it helped you! The smooth scrolling is likely because you didn't put back the metal piece that clicks into the wheel.
@@Val9kIsTaken Alright so after this I wanted to fix my old deathadder too (it had the same exact problem) instead of opening and cleaning that piece I just got and sprayed some wd-40 on the encoder and it works like day one now, so if anyone else has the same problem this is the less risky solution 👍
@@OnlyVuimo Nice!
Thanks bro! i'm using the first method (which is just clean the sludge on the mouse rolling thing) and it working 🙂
Thank you very much. It works really well on my hp pavilion gaming mouse 300. just wow!
Hello from Brazil, fixed my mouse with your help, thanks!
Thank you, works fine here!
No problem!
You can use also something like contact cleaner. It cleans out anything without shorting risk
You don't have to open the encoder. I dropped a couple of drops of 95% alcohol over the encoder and spun it a couple times in both directions. Repeated it 2-3 times and let it air dry. Afterwards I reassembled the mouse and it worked without a problem.
Good to know!
Thanks, my mouse wheel was nearly not reacting at all any more and some drops of Isopropanol on the encoder worked perfectly!
bruh you are right! i spray a couple of hand sanitizer and it works! 😎😎😎😎
Thank U so much bro 👊🏽 This video help a lot cuz I live in brazil and buy a new deathadder elite it is very expensive nowadays 😅
Thanks for this video I was able to fix my mouse scroll wheel! Doing the last part worked for me.
Your vid helped me fix my mouse :D thanks. Turns out it was my cat's hair that was causing the double-click and unresponsiveness on the middle mouse button lol
LOL bro I was about to buy a new one and then I saw your video, after I just did the first tip with my mouth to try and it resolved ahahah, I've been struggling with that for months thank's bro
Exactly what i was looking for!
thanks for the tutorial my guy.. I will try it later
No need to disassemble the wheel. Just pour some electronic safe isopropyl alcohol (99%) onto the encoder (the thing with the metal brackets), scroll up down a few time to cleanup the dirt and spray some air to dry everything.
The fact im gonna have to try this on my £150 mouse for the sake of only the wheel doing this is annoying, hard to justify buying a new 1 because of the scroll wheel so thank you for the vid!
Worked so well thank yoy so much
Thanks for the vid..it worked! I have an ASUS ROG Gladius II Core...just be careful and careful with the metal legs, they don't need to be 100% closed, they could break I guess. By closing them until the small wheel does not move, it is ready.
Thank you very much for the guide! I was able to fix my old HyperX mouse. Now it has much much less scroll glitches!
Worked, thanks for video. Damn I somehow wanted it to be broken to get a g502 :)) but now that is fixed will have to use it.
I used my fingernails to bend the little metal pieces and they didn't break. I thought steel screwdriver tip was too hard on them and I was definitely going to break it if I tried so. İt hurts a bit but I was able to bend them back easily. Also I discovered scroll wheel works best if you push that little scroll piece that we cleaned to the left as you can and make sure they are hold tightly.
Bro i am 40 seconds into your video and i already fixed the problem , there was dust inside the wheel thank you my guy keep rocking !
so i did this and it actually got fixed but i broke 2 of those pins and the tactile feedback from scrolling no longer works lol. Now i have a smooth ass scrollwheel with no jitter but no incremental scrolling feedback
I just blew really hard into my scroll wheel and now its fixed. Thanks for the knowledge lol
I wish this worked for me. Blowing didn't work so I busted out my 100psi air compressor and that didn't work either.
@@angryroy6277 have you tried blowing harder my friend
I broke 2 of my tabs the last few times, and the other 2 were really weak too. This time, I took it out and 1 broke, and the other one was really wiggly and wouldn't keep the scroll wheel in place (i tried to move it back into place but it would swing back out again). Fixed it with a rubber band, but that paperclip trick is pretty smart. Gonna try it next time I open this up.
nice video I hope I see more of u
Thanks, I ended up fixing mine by blasting each side of the wheel with a can of compressed air. No disassembly required 😊
For me the problem was that if i scrolled to fast, the wheel lost friction in the sensor (at 4:44 the white rod that connects the wheel to the sensor) So i but a little silicon seal piece and showed it in with the wheel when i put it back together, so it has a tighter connection, if it makes sense. That fixed it for me, hopefully it would be useful for others aswell
i won a death adder essential mouse and its been great for the few months I've had it but now the scroll wheel randomly scrolls in the opposite direction. I am beyond disappointed. my friend bought a razor keyboard and the I button will randomly type I twice or not work for a second. i thought razor had good products but now I'm not so sure.
thanks so much it fixed the issue
if you don't want to open the wheel sensor you can try drop some oil on it and it works for me
thanks so much the last one worked for me thanks a lot again
thanks man!! i fixed my mouse !!!
awalnya gw kurang yakin sama ni orang, soalnya sensornya sebelum dibersihin dan sesudah dibersihin sama aja, (sama sama bersih), tapi tetap aja gw coba, dari pada beli mouse baru. bener aja ternyata berhasil.. thxx
moving on from razer after multiple mouses with this problem
Bro i want to buy this mouse but scroll issue confused me what you suggest?
buy it, and if it starts to do this come back to this vid
Thanks, it works! Also I didn't break the pins :) Paper clip solution is amazing.
Thanks You so much. I have the Mamba Elite and its easier to repair.
Thank you so much!
thanks man
This worked perfectrly but my mouse wheel became hyper sensitive now I have to deal with it :D :D
Great ! . It helped a lot !
10/10 didnt know that there could be sth in the sensor.
Incredible, the video with the fastest resolution ever... I had this problem, just blew 2 times and it was RESOLVED! I can't believe I hadn't thought of that, thank you! It may sound stupid, but it worked.
It actually worked!!
YOOOOOOOOO That fixed my razor naga. Now the problem is that it made my scroll wheel less resistant which is a downside for me. Great video tho thumbs up from me
i agree with using IPA. today i used water, but discovered there is water-soluble glue used in the wheel.
Quick Fix: Just blow really hard as close as possible near the scrolling wheel, I got it fixed without needing to open it.
well, you can use thing call RP7 , spray direct to the contact wheel and will fix it, atleast for 3 or 4 month before do it again. Mine work like champ
What about if you don't have compressed air?
You could try using a bike pump. I've used one before, and it's pretty effective at blowing out dust, as long as you put in some effort.
I don't have one of those either@@Val9kIsTaken
thx
hotglue to rescue
dude i was following your tutorial and at the point you started to disassemble fragile stuff i got scared and didn';t want to do it and just sprayed WD-40 on everything... assembled the mouse and it got fixed.. so happy but still don't recommend it hahaha maybe i just got lucky
tnaks i just needed to blow my mouse
TY LAD problem fixed
Just buy some Kailth encoder according to the height and solder it. This method is risky
so ur telling me for the past yeard of that shit annoying me all i had to do was blow in the wheel whole to fix it , goddammit
Damn, that mouse is a biohazard 😂
If Razer makes so shitty mice you have to fix them yourself, don't buy from them.
7:58 🐈⬛
Never had this problem with my Logitech mice. This garbage is unique to Razer.
i just blow it and it worked thanks