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Due to this week's giveaway, there is an overwhelming amount of comments. Please understand if I don't respond to yours.
My head's too big for it anywho.
MAD HATTER
We'll, we axed for it. Yeah, you got to the root of the matter and went out on a limb for us all. Great episode!
Well, we don't like to leaf things laying around.
Cut it out! 🪓
@@AgentXRifle OK! I'll pack a trunk.
@@ArizonaGhostriders You guys are going to have to do a lot to bury the hatchet after those puns. :)
Hey! Santee's a good sap. You're barking up the wrong tree when you say he's got a heartwood. Leaf him alone and just go with the phloem.
I didn't think, logging in, that I would find such a good, clear-cut video on Lumberjacks. Truely a cut above, what I saw didn't leave me board at all. I was always curious of how they lived and flannely have an answer. I epsecially enjoyed the swing between comedy and information passing without milling about on too much. I also guess I'm not the only one doing puns...
YOu could leaf it alone... Thanks!
@@ArizonaGhostriders I come out of the wood-work to give you a compliment, and this is what I get... You and I have an axe to grind. I hope all these puns are above board.
@@Camdor5 i am willing to step out on a limb, and say T H A N K YOU TO ALL , involved here. May peace and security, arrive at your places of residence, always !
My family logged the Rocky Mountains...Pa Pa was a skidder using his own mule to skid the felled logs out of the stand. My mother and her siblings lived in the timber camps growing up. It was seasonal so they moved back to the family homestead during the winter months. My husband just retired a few years ago from loading and hauling the logs to the sawmill.
That is so cool! Well, then you know all this stuff and more!
@@ArizonaGhostriders It is still so fun to see all this on you show! It was a hard life for the families but my mom and her siblings have kept the good memories of growing up 'wild and barefoot' around the camps.
I have worked with a 2 man cross saw and an axe. I can tell you those guys were in good shape. I knew you had to do The Lumberjack Song
It was a given. Thanks!! Wow....that's some hard work
@@ArizonaGhostriders Yep but my Grandfather didn't have a chainsaw on the farm until I was grown. It was a saw pit for. Boards and timbers. 2 main cross cut for felling trees or an axe. It was hard but enjoyable work in the mountains of Virginia. I have no idea how many fence post and timbers and boards I helped him cut but he built a new barn for calving and treating injured animals. I enjoyed spending time with him so I always volunteered to help no matter what. A story you might enjoy. On my honeymoon we went to Williamsburg, I think it was the Cooper's shop. The apprentice was cutting with a 2 man and asked me if I wanted to try it. I went to it. I settled in to a rhythm and cut a couple of staves. My wife told me he was starting to drag a bit during the second one. Me I just fell into the rhythm I had always worked at. I wasn't trying to show off and apologized to him.
Thanks again Santee & Co . RIP Doc . You showed everyone that you have the chops for telling the story of lumberjacks in the Old West .
Thank you!
Love watching these every week. I'm from big timber area and back in the day a single redwood would yield 25 houses. We have a logging museum that is an old cookhouse for the logging town with all kinds of memrobillia like handle bar chain saws and bread baking pans welded together to bake 6 or more loaves at a time. The Samoa cookhouse if you are ever out in Eureka Calif is a great place to see and catch a meal.
My great granddad was a logger in Alabama in the 1920's and 30's. I'm not sure what job he had though. It always surprised me because he was not very tall and quite thin. He was born in 1890.
Cool!
Mad hatter. This is by far my favorite KZhead channel. Never disappoints.
Thank you!
I was a Mad Hatter after hearing Santee's puns. Lol He was pretty sharp with them and branched off into a real good story. He stayed on course and didn't bark up the wrong tree. He cut to the chase and didn't put me to sleep sawin' any logs! Condolences To Doc Davis' Family and Friends. Rest Easy, Cowpoke.
Thank you!
I work with trees now and always find it fascinating to learn about how it used to be done differently back in the day. It's also interesting how the skills that were brought to America by Europeans were adapted and improved upon to process much larger trees and transport them over longer distances. The elbow grease and guts these guys had to work in these conditions everyday really puts modern life into perspective!! Great video. Mad Hatter!!!
Mad Hatter When I first saw this I thought about saying let me axe you a question lol Santee beat me to it in like 8 seconds......lol where's the bar tender 😂 haha
LOL!
Wonderful episode as always….glad it’s finally getting cold enough to wear my lumberjack flannels
Cool!
I would love a mad hatter to add some bling to my winter attire. Keep your powder dry.
Thanks for that, Santee. The first chainsaws were used by surgeons, though they were somewhat smaller as they were used to cut the breastbone. Interesting how the meaning of words change. A lumberjack was a fellow, a jack, who cut timber into rough planks. The man who cut the tree down, or felled it, was a treefeller. In Medieval England both jobs were probably done by the same men while working in the forest. The tree would be cut down and the wood was shaped before being transported to save weight. So all the posts, roof beams, floors et cetera would be prepared then shipped of to the building site. Almost a flatpack home.
There were other names I left out for each job those fellers had.
Great video. Logging was huge here in Michigan too especially after the Civil War. Many of the lumber towns were just as wild as those out west, except they tended to use knives and fists instead of guns.
They were not men to get into a fight with!
@@ArizonaGhostriders No they were not they were in perfect shape , and mean, probably the nearest woman was often 20-50 miles away that will make you mean .
Great video. I always enjoyed the Paul Bunyom folk lore as a child. My great Grandfather owned and worked the saw mil in Edgerton Kansas. You might say it brought the Mad Hatter out in me. See what I did theere, ehh yea you see that LOL Also that was awesome how you got a dinosaur in that one.
Thank you! Great info on your GG!
“Where’s the bar tender?” It took me literally one second than I laughed so hard I woke my wife up. MadHatter. 😉
That was my brother Steve doing the voice.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Very funny.
I grew up hearing stories about my Great Great Grandpa Colomb whose name was Louis Pierre and he was a French Canadian Lumberjack who was born in the 1850s in Quebec and moved to the US where he married a French immigrant named Delema, who he had six children with. He was 6 foot 4 inches in height, had size 6 feet, a huge handlebar mustache and shoulders as wide as an ox. You know those cartoon French Lumberjacks? That was pretty much him. Once carried a stove four miles on his back to a log cabin because he didn't want to hurt his pack horse!
That is some lineage! Cool and thanks for sharing.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Happy to share and I have an interesting family tree! Louis Pierre's son, my Great Gandpa Colomb was a bootlegger during Prohibition. My Great Great Grandpa Lazier was a Metis buffalo hunter. Great Grandpa Ross was a Scotts-Irish horse trader and my Grandpa Ross left home at thirteen to work as a ranch hand during the Depression. Not to mention my half Sioux great grandmother who was a . . . lady of the evening . . . lol I'm from Northwest settler stock, we have interesting family histories . . .
Mad Hatter Lumberjacks have cool jackets and I didn’t know there history went this far back thank you for the great and entertaining video content keep it up
You bet
I logged in the '80s in Wyoming, living in the woods it was hard enough work hella hard with a chainsaw and a log skidder, even did some firewood in and log those with horses but I can't imagine felling trees with axes like they did back in the day
Wow!!! That's impressive, Michael.
Thanks for another great episode. Merry Christmas my friends. I think I speak for many of us, you all have become dear friends to us out here in KZhead land. We look forward to your wonderful episodes and escapades weekly.
Thank you! Much appreciated!
it’s definitely required that you include that song, it’s right up your alley and Rex being Paul’s ride makes more sense than Babe, but Rex prefers to keep a low profile 😎
He is more useful in tough situations.
Seven brides for seven brothers, fellers, buckers, peelers, and a mad hatter. What a crew!
Thank you!
I gotta say Santee your channel and videos are standouts. Having always had a interest in history but always wanting to know specific topics this channel definitely fuels that desire. Its also so cool to hear & see all of you western / frontier reenactors and how much yall put into research & recreation. Someday Id love to see all yall Arizona Ghostriders :)
Much appreciated! Very nice thing to say
Excellent video Santee. I LOVE how you chop away and debark the story to expose the pulpy truth to history. Exposing those roots to the tales is how you keep the history of the west alive...Doc was wrong ya know, it wasn't Wyatt, Santee, you're an oak.
I just wish you'd leaf these puns alone, Drew. I'm getting board with them.
My great great grandpas brothers died on a log jam in the late 1800s and all he (his name was Axel) could do was sit there and watch... which is what (I think) caused Axel to immigrate to the US from Sweden in 1902. It's also probably part of why he was a bad alcoholic. (After he immigrated he switched professions and worked in a mill.)
Sad story, but great that you have that history of your family.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Ive always found it odd how little some people know about their family ancestry. I also know Axel used to go to bars, get drunk and fight the cowboys regularly lol. It was sort of like his pass time... Some people watch base ball, football, or fish... Axel used to get drunk and fight lol.
Thank you Santee for another wonderful show. Always learning something. Also, if you remember North To Alaska; John Wayne's character climbed the large tree for a Loggers's reunion. All those Yentleman were there. Thanks again! I was glad to see all those Yentleman did not have a Axe to grind among themselves haah.
Thank you!
Rest in Peace " Doc." The Good Men Always seem to Leave us Too Soon. Jim Obviously was Not the Mad Hatter. Best Wishes from Montana! M.H.
Thank you!
You are very Welcome. I've Lost a Few Great Friends myself. M.H.
@@mikehagan4320 😢
Thank you from Oregon in the pacific northwest. That was another great video! You guys do a fine job to say the least. People need to know more on the timber industry side of things these days and that was a great short video on it. Have a Merry Christmas this holiday season 🌲🌲 Mad Hatter
Thank you!
Mad Hatter... I live up in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, the type of men in those photos built this area, there are remnants of old sawmills everywhere. That was back in the days when the Cavalry was chasing Joaquin Murrieta and Three Finger Jack were robbing lumberjack payrolls and Chinese miners. He had a camp up in the table Mountains.
Very cool! Thank you!
Because of these videos, I find myself making puns and immediately thinking "this is just stupid" in true Dirty Dan impression. You'd think I wood stop but I can't seem to leaf it alone. Who knows, everyone just says I'm mad as a hatter. The good old Mat Hatter and his puns.
Thank you!
Definitely a hard labor profession. Thanks as always, Merry Christmas!
You too!
Santee, thanks for another good un'. My favorite scene of North to Alaska was the lumberjack picnic scene. I always wished we saw a bit more about them in westerns. I was sorry to see about the passing of Jim "Doc" Davis, while I didn't know the man, I know how hard it can be to lose a friend and mentor. I'd try for the hat, but it wouldn't fit my melon, but thanks for doin' a giveaway (and thanks to whoever donated it), and I hope it finds a great home! Keep 'em comin', and God Bless!
Thank you! Richard. Much appreciated!
Ok so " Mad Hatter " that being said I can not describe the joy I get from your channel . My area ( South East Texas) Economy was first built on logging and it is still part of our economy . Any one who finds themselves in Forks Washington ( if you can avoid the damn sparkling vampires ) see the logging museum it is amazing how hard they lived and how much they ate to support themselves .
Thanks and appreciate the tip on the logging museum
The legendary blue T-Rex! Legend has it Smokey the Bear actually said "Only BLUE can stop forest fires."
Babe the Blue Rex
Love to see one of the pictures featured is from Michigan where Im from. We have a very rich logging history and were known for being one of the key states for sending white pine out west! Excellent video Santee! MAD HATTER !🔥
Very cool!
Muskegon really got going because of all those logs being shipped out... then the logging stopped and I'm not sure Muskegon ever really recovered. Mad Hatter!
@@JeffDeWitt Indeed, its sad to see Muskegon isn't too much together these days. The Manistee National forest was rich for its lumber too.
@@unragazzonormale8732 We lived there years ago, and while the SD Warren paper mill provided needed jobs it certainly... had a certain air about it. We had eventually moved to Cary, NC, and sometime after we moved Cary was on the list of one of the best places to live in America and I think poor Muskegon hit the #1 spot as the worst place to live.
@@JeffDeWitt wow no kidding! Im not surprised its ranked as worst, its been through the ringer. I live in Grand Rapids so I have to get out to Muskegon occasionally, but yeah its always unfortunately rugged looking
Good Morning Santee! Another excellent informative video… Thank you for all your hard work at introducing us to western history! Mad hatter
My pleasure!
I really enjoyed this one. Thanks much. My grandfather was a steam engineer for donkey engines used to haul logs out of the woods. My dad was an all-around logger that could high climber set chokers faller you name it. I set chokers and was a landing chase when I was younger.
Very cool!
I would have been bitterly disappointed if there were no Monty Python reference. Bless you. Mad hatter.
This was a great video. Very interesting. My dad and his brother worked in sawmill and lumber camps way before I was born. I don’t think my dad was a lumberjack because of his size ( he was short and small ). Wish I had asked more questions when he was alive. Thanks for this episode.
You're welcome. Much appreciated!
Greetings from Ireland. Mad Hatter eigh. Great episode as ever.
Thank you!
Mad Hatter: How do trees get online? They just log on.
LOL!
The guy at 1:35 is a 'highclimber', for obvious reasons. He tops off the tree to make a spar tree for cable logging. They attach a giant pulley at the top, and basically create a winch system with a steam engine at the landing to pull the logs up the hill. Guy wires also have to be put in to keep the tree in place when it's under tension. Mad hatter!
The clip continues as the guys sways back and forth in the "recoil".
@@ArizonaGhostriders Not a job for the fainthearted. I used to work with a retired logger who did that, and he showed me a photo of himself after he somehow climbed on top of the topped tree, 100' up in the air, and was standing there doffing his hard hat for the camera.
“Glad you axed...” Sweet! Nice to see how your channel is growing! 5000 calories just for breakfast!?? I’m 6’1” 250 and used to work the flight line at two airports in my youth handling heavy fuel hoses and freight and that breakfast would kill me!!! Good grief! Heck, I think Denny’s lumberjack if it is still on the menu is only 1000 calories... 🤯😱🤢🤢
🎶" I cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers " ha ha ha Thanks guys !!!
Our pleasure!
Fire edits as usual and informative - Merry Christmas!
Mad hatter lol
Thanks! You too!
Good to see. I mentioned earlier, my great grampa and his two older brothers left Maine after the Civil War and moved West as lumberjacks and cut all the trees down. Supposedly they were called the "Giants of Maine", they being robust and 6' 6" and taller. They moved all the way to Washington, down to California and moved back to Spokane. The Old West was more than cowboys, miners and cavalrymen. Lumberjacks, store keepers and farmers were in the mix. I have family from Alaska down to Oregon and in between. Back in Maine all the way down to Florida. Tennessee, West Virginia and here, in the Shenandoah Valley. And can't children in Wyoming and Missouri. Even have a cousin in Germany, staying after he left the U. S. Army in 1968. I'm sure there has got to be some some logging camo shootouts or axe murderes to do some shows on. Good shows. Reminds me of my family 110 to 130 years ago.
Once again, great family history!
Mad Hatter, thank you Santee for the videos! I appreciate you man, happy holidays and I wish you and your entire family healthy, happy holidays!
Thank you!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Yessir! And try to keep that T-Rex locked up before he tramples the tree haha.
My favourite lumberjack is the cheese stealing villainous rodent Savoir Faire from the Klondike Kat cartoons (that's showing my age). "Savoir Faire ees everywhere!" I also have a dvd copy of Kirk Douglas in The Big Trees somewhere. I have a Border Collie, the second BC in a row, I love them. I was watching Shane the other day and I suddenly wondered about the role of working dogs in the West.
nice
You guys have great content. I love you how you’re educating people about the true wild/old west.
Great grandpa was a logger foreman in the 1920s before that he was a freight wagon driver at the end of the century one of his freight wagon stops is actually at my dad's ranch in parachute Colorado so it was crazy to be at the same place he was at over 100 years ago
Cool!
the axe in the stump then the outlaw pulling the gun was good… lol love this channel..
Thanks
It's funny. In Seattle near Pioneer Square part of historic Seattle is a nice slope. When Seattle was a logging town, they would skid the logs down near there. Claiming this is where the term skid row came from.
Cool!
Last month on Halloween I went to an estate sale of a retired antique dealer. Picked up a small 19th century hatchet for about three bucks. One of the best deals I've ever gotten on an 1800s antique.
Very cool!
Mad Hatter. I love watching your videos every Saturday before my western themed D&D game. Great job as always!
Thank you!
Choosing to take up such a lumbering job would make you bit of a "Mad Hatter". 😁
👍🏻 LOL
The logging industry used to be pretty big here in the Adirondacks. Unfortunately almost everything got clear cut so now all we have is new growth forests.
New growth is good.
Just reading the title, made me go - "MY BROTHERS!!!" LOL, I would totally fit in at a frontier logging camp, I pretty much dress the part on a daily basis. I also love swinging axes into bits of wood, or into burglars (sinister laugh).
Cool! Thank you!
Great video. I worked with loggers for 15 years and their history has always fascinated me. Your puns were better than ever Mad Hatter.
Much appreciated!
I can't be-LEAF the amount of lumber puns in this video. I can't believe I FELL for them, I must be a real SAP! Or maybe just a MAD HATTER! 😀
Nice
I might not be a lumberjack but I used to help cut down trees for firewood when I was a kid and I use a axe during the whole time with wood chopping because gas powered log splitters were expensive which in the end I had talent for wood chopping where I never had any accidents of any type.
Cool!
Love learning about lumbering back in the day. Thank you!
Our pleasure!
Mad hatter. I work for a tree service up in Connecticut and I always wished I could have seen how it was back then, it's kinda what you wish you could've done when you are 12 years old hearing of Paul Bunyan
Mad Hatter.. Awesomeness. My ancestors here in western North Carolina were loggers. Raised on stories of those days. Enjoyed it. Keep them dropping.
Awesome!
It was noted on Monday mornings back at the mill or forest after a hell-raising weekend many lumberjacks suffered from a local case of 'smallpox'-getting stomped on the face or hands in a drunken brawl by another lumberjack's metal spike soled work boots. They felt naked without their 'corked' boots much like a cowboy without his six-shooter. Popular saloons like Humboldt's in Seattle had to replace their hardwood floors every couple of years because of the wood getting turned into toothpicks from this. The owner of Humboldt's, Fred Hewlett is a story in and of himself who always looked out for the lumberjacks' well-being by letting them deposit their pay into his safe and he wouldn't give it back until they sobered up enough. He didn't allow shifty 'dudes' in his saloon trying to cheat or steal the lumberjacks out of their pay as he was the bouncer as well, thrashing and throwing them out. Fights were ALWAYS taken outside under Fred's watchful eye and the lumberjacks knew Big Fred had their best interests in mind. He even collected Indian relics the lumberjacks would bring in offering free drinks in return and soon had his own considerable museum inside that patrons could admire.
LOL!
I've worked as a lumberjack once or twice before funnest job I've ever had
Nice!
The mad hatter is so mad he up and went to the state hospital of his own free will.
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"MAD HATTER" Good information Santee.
Thanks
Another great episode! And I'm not sure if I've said this or not, but I love the intro you guys have now for your show.
Another fine report, Santee, thanks for spreading the word and keeping it interesting. You are wild as a “Mad Hatter”. My friend. :-)
Well said!
Another great video. Thanks again for the time and effort
You're welcome.
That last part of having infinite pancakes would make anyone happy
Right?
Fun, educational video as always. My deepest condolences on learning of Doc's passing.
1:10 made me spit out my Drink laughing 😂
👍🏻 YAY!
OK Mad Hatter, another good episode as usual. Those redwoods in California sure took big axes and saws. See 'ya down the trail.
Thank you!
Congrats on winning the hat.
Man I'm really glad I found this channel. After playing red dead redemption it gave me an itch to learn more about the old west, this channel certainly helping with that. Thank you. History deserves to be remembered. Mad hatter.
You should check out Legends of the Old West Podcast, you can thank me later. Up yonders . 🤠
Thank you! Much appreciated!
Mad Hatter . My dad was known as a Topper. They would cut off the top of the trees. That way when they fell them. They wouldn't split the wood. Love your videos, have a great day.👍
I left out Topper! Sorry to your Dad!
Never miss a show! Great tale as always. Mad Hatter
Thank you!
I eat a 5000 calorie breakfast, unfortunately, I probably only burn 1000/day! I really like hats but they have to be about a 7-7/8 to fit my noggin! Great video as always Santee.
Thank you, Richard!
I went to college in Humboldt, CA. One of the neatest things in the area was the Lumberjack history museum in the Samoa Cookhouse, an actual still active dining hall for Lumberjacks that worked in the region in the 1890s. It is now a publicly available resteraunt with great grub. It is also cool to go out into the redwoods, throw down a blanket, and lay down on the stump of an ancient Redwood long since turned to timber.
Thank you!
Great bit of history! I always look forward to your next video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I got very happy when i saw that you uploaded a new video, Thank you Santee!😃👍 PS: Could you one on how the nativeamericans lived on the frontier?
Big subject....may take many videos!
Great video! I've heard River Rat was/is an incredibly dangerous job...those logs get angry and take their revenge in blood and bone!
Wow!!
In my area of Canada there was a lot of logging surrounding the nearby creeks and rivers. So there are a bunch of old saws axes and other tools around garage sales and such. We once even found a log riders pole in our shop up in the rafters and like many others we have a large two person saw decorating the wall
So cool!
Doubt you’ll see this but. My family and I recently moved further west and found a great antique store. I somehow ended up with a pile of old tools and a nearly empty wallet. I’ve now got a late 1800s double bit axe and a draw knife from around the same time. Among other things.
How did I miss this one this channel is the best
Thank you very much.
Mad Hatter. Great video, I always enjoy learning more about the old west from you.
Glad to hear it
Great video Santee, Some interesting tales about wood choppers too, Mad Hatter as well!
Thanks 👍
Santee - your channel is perhaps one of the most entertaining on KZhead. Your production and editing are great! Thank you for bringing the Old West to life in true style! Perhaps you can find me on the Peralta Trail in Gold Canyon someday. - Craig - mad hatter
Wow, thanks! If I head up there maybe we can meet
I’m glad he axed that question too 😂😂😂😂
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Mad hatter! Thank you for keeping the old west alive and keep the videos coming. Merry Christmas!
Lumberjacks were definitely some tough dudes, i'll bet not to many people messed with them!
Right?!?
Mad Hatter ! So love your videos. You teach facts about the old west in a fun way.
You're welcome. Much appreciated!
this was a great vid. really enjoyed it. thanks.
Mad Hatter! Thanks for this episode! As an arborist i really enjoyed it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Santee be the mad hatter! Great video as always. I was waiting for the north to Alaska reference lol
Too many references, too little time.
Great episode, keep the content coming, Mad Hatter.
👍🏻 Thanks.
Great episode on lumberjacks! I've had a couple in my family. The work is certainly no joke. As soon as I saw the subject I knew the song was going in
Ha! Cool!
The only place I've heard that lumberjack song before was on an episode of the A-Team. Murdock started singing it when they were transporting truckloads of logs. I'm currently making a character who had a background being a river rat (which I now know the term for) so thanks for all the info you packed into this video! Mad Hatter.
Originally in a Monty Python sketch. kzhead.info/sun/o8qLlNmqb3mCdYU/bejne.html
Yep!
Mad Hatter is an excellent choice as a keyword for this channel, let alone this particular episode.
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Thanks for talking about some of the least talked about subjects in the old west times. They give us things we take for granted today like homes furniture and etc. MAD HATTER.
You're welcome.