Johann Hari - Depression: The Real Causes (& Unexpected Solutions)
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What really causes depression and anxiety - and how can we really solve them? In this talk, award winning journalist Johann Hari will discuss his recent 40,000-mile journey across the world, where he interviewed social scientists uncovering evidence that depression and anxiety are not caused by a chemical imbalance in our brains - but rather, are largely caused by key problems with the way we live today.
Hari’s journey took him from an Amish community in Indiana, to a mind-blowing series of experiments in Baltimore, to an uprising in Berlin. Along the way, he uncovered nine real causes of depression and anxiety, which eventually led him to the scientists who are discovering seven very different solutions - ones that work.
Johann Hari is a New York Times best-selling author. His book ‘Chasing the Scream’ has been translated into 15 languages and is currently being adapted into a major Hollywood film, and into a non-fiction documentary series.
With over 20 million views, he is one of the most-watched TED speakers of all time. He has written for the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Guardian, and was twice named ‘National Newspaper Journalist of the Year’ by Amnesty International.
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I was a psychotherapist for 32 years. The field in late 80s shifted from psychotherapy to chemical therapy. No, drugs was not an add- on, drugs replaced psychotherapy. There is no brain chemical imbalance as the root cause. No study supports this manufactured explanation. He's absolutely right. But good luck finding a therapist that has the desire, the skill or talent to treat the actual cause.
@@poollife777 I have never met a medical professional group as pessimistic as psychotherapists. They have no faith that depressed or anxious individuals can actually get better. Perhaps the root of their pessimism is from their own lack of talent or skill to make a difference. Over 32 years of a clinical practice, I treated the most severe mental illnesses, and with very few exceptions the lives of my patients improved dramatically. And those that didn't improve, I referred on to other professionals for help. I considered it my failure, not the patients. Something is seriously wrong with a profession that "treats," an individual for 5+ years. It's appalling what damage we are doing to adults, and an absolute travesty what we are doing to our children. Sex changes that will render them sterile for life, and vaccines for Covid-19, children not only do not need, but will damage many for life.
@@poollife777 sometimes it is not a bagagge but jutst inability to find a solution...or preceonceived ideas we have about ourselves..
Someone I care about very much takes a “cocktail” of anti depression drugs for melancholia. She is convinced that her brain does not make the right chemicals because her psychotherapist sent her to a psychiatrist and he said so. She refuses to look into alternatives such as working out or different food choices or supplements. She is a highly educated woman but will only consider the “official” solution. I think that is sad.
@@margomoore4527 She is not being told the truth. But she is a money generating return customer. To be honest with patients is difficult but mandatory. I made it clear, that if they kept their appointments, were honest with me and willing to " work," toward a solution, I would help facilitate the change they wanted. Some wanted a place to complain and vent, week after week; they wanted an enabler. I told them the truth and let those patients go.
The MSR reference manual for psychiatry was formed by consensus using no actual science so it was completely arbitrary as a guide to determine a 'pathology'. Even though it cost $80 or so, MSR-5 (5th edition) was the #1 bestseller ahead of Harry Potter. A guy investigated because it did not make sense, and he found out that Pfizer bought manuals for doctors offices across the US. The MSR has had a huge role as a tool to promote chemicals beginning in the '70's I believe.
Absolutely. My mom made it horrible. My son's father made it horrible. Living in a moldy low-income apartment in the ghetto made it horrible. Own my own place now and no depression on lowest dose of two antidepressants. Was 50% situational.
Agree
That's wonderful, your life is better..now....it's the environment we live ,...that can definitely effect us...
I agree with situational depression
Mold causes depression.
100% environment
So right on. I’m sending this to many others. I can relate to the information on environment and friends and family. So much of my depression occurs when I am lonely or not feeling needed. I am 71 retired and miss work. I have to make myself go to the park, stop and smell the roses ect. It helps every time. Thank you for this video.🙏❤️
Good for you, happy to hear that you go out to the park and smell the roses. When I'm feeling good, l love to be out in nature but when I'm depressed, all l want to do is sleep. I'm waiting patiently for retirement because work stress often brings on my depression. Hoping for brighter and happier days for us all 😁🙏😁
If you’re physically able, I beg of you to get a “job” volunteering in your community in whatever field you have skills & talent: tutor children in after school programs, work with free food programs for the needy, etc.
Sue you can still work my mum is 78 and is still very entrepreneurial and working pits and bob jobs she has huge networks of friends and networks from church to local community... try it dont wind down in life keep going doing what you enjoy... want to work look for a new job! best wishes
Most of my friends tell me they will be glad when their spouse dies and they can live alone! " I'll never get married again!" They chortle. I tell them not to be so hasty. It's not easy to be alone. I have been single for 26 years and am now not hopeful of finding a partner . I was married for 18 years prior to that. I quit my job of 20 years 3 years ago, because of stress then COVID hit and we all locked down in our houses. I now work full time from home which is great because it pays the bills, but now I don't have lunch with my friends and I don't have professional support either. Thanks for this info. It's important.
Me too. Learning from different ideas now
I like doing my own thing, this makes me happy. Not adapting to suit others , no desire to be in contact with superficial people who just fit in.
Me too 😁
Same here
I agree. Especially, since most people are so gullible and believe the news, the government and what’s in their (history) books 🤣
@@redwingsfan3621 , yes, I get accused of thinking too deeply...I can't tolerate superficiality anymore... Send me the deep thinkers. 🙏
Walking... making myself walk outside (even though I am often resistant) for 40-50 minutes ALWAYS makes me feel better. Today I listened to this talk on my phone and it is totally uplifting and validating. Thank you for all your wonderful work and research. Feeling more hopeful. Would like your email or website if you have one. Blessings to you.
I think I heard walking in nature, provided there aren’t howls, growls, insect buzzing sounds (unless maybe you’re a beekeeper), satanic chanting, a drug activity or poison Ivy around, is even more a boost. 99% of nature trails are probably safe in the daytime. I was just making dark humor.
Interesting - I discovered that my adoration for longer pilgrimages has deeper reason to overcome my losses and clear the horizon in my future life 🔥
Yes!!!!! WALKING!!! LIFE CHANGING!!. even though sometimes it is difficult to get up and get going' once you do..the difference is amazing! Praise God! 🙏🙏💕
Very true, I walk for at least 2 hours every single day and it really helps
Splash cold water on your face and chest early in the morning. Work on the things that are wrong in your life. YOUR BRAIN WILL QUIT MAKING ITS OWN SERITONON. Like the constipation or insomnia for people, drugs should be a short term treatment, only part of a solution.
Thanks for this great presentation. My depression is partly hereditary and mostly childhood abuse. My favorite "medicine" is volunteering. Find something you love to do and look for someplace that needs your help doing it.
That is wonderful advice. I'm glad you found this way of feeling better!
Yes...love it.
Jane, no study has validated that depression is hereditary. None. We see patterns of depression and anxiety in families because the environment (parents) perpetuates the same maladapted behavioral patterns from one generation to the next. Unstable family environments produce unstable humans.
busy-ness is sometimes a trauma response, I did that and got very taken advantage of.
Volunteering saved me from a dark depression
I lived in my house with various dogs, cats, rabbits and fish, running my own business from home, for 27 years and I was very happy. Before that I had a job I loved for about 20 years. My employer decided to move to another country and I had to regroup and carry on by myself. We still worked together on projects remotely, so that helped. Towards the end of the 27 years I had a health crisis and decided to move to another city to be with a longtime friend, so that I would no longer be living alone and have a back up person and he would have me as a back up person and we could have fun together, since he was retired and had the time. The year I decided to do this COVID hit and I was in a strange city, isolated from everybody I used to see all the time, stores and restaurants I visited all the time, and I could no longer just go somewhere and do what I wanted, when I wanted to. I don't drive and catching a bus in this city would mean I'd have to walk to, or get a ride to a bus stop first. The worry about catching COVID made me stay in my new home even more. Gradually I hated where I Iived, not only the city but also my new dwelling and I hated being dependent on another person who was not into helping me, unreliable, set in his ways and negative towards me at least once a day and always late for everything. The first week after I moved into my new space, across from his house, I wanted to leave because I was so unhappy. It has been more than two years now and all I do is work from home, buy food, walk my dog, not in the woods like I used to, and wait for this friend to take me to stores and back, which is the only time we go anywhere together. In all the time I've been here I've been to three Malls and have seen nothing of the city, except two parks while walking my dog. These walks are not relaxing, or restoring of my calm, like they used to be, because I am accompanied by my friend who talks about the cost of gas, the state of the world, foreigners being the problem, how it's only going to get worse, the idiot who bought the company he worked for and ruined it, etc., all negative topics he always talks about and certainly at every walk, and on the ride to the park and on the ride back, so all I want to do is get away from him. He is down on everything I like doing, my plant collection, drawing, aquariums, working for my company, crafts, finishing furniture, US politics, British shows, cooking, decorating, tile work, antiques, gardening, he has no interest in what I do and is really the only person I speak to on a daily basis and he has very little to say. He has still not looked at my second book, which I recently had published, when it arrived in the mail four months ago. He has an aversion to being happy for anyone who has accomplished something and adverse to paying compliments. These days I avoid him whenever possible because every word out of his mouth is to blame me for something petty, like a stain on his driveway, or bring up something I did wrong ten years ago, call me names, asking me if I'm weird because I'm doing something he wouldn't bother with, and not understanding any of my concerns, or why I am unhappy living on his property and listen to him bitch about mundane things every day all day. I am spending a lot of time now trying to find somewhere else to live. Depression can come just from something a simple as being around a person who makes your life a misery. For me being alone and in charge of my life, my days, and what I did with those days, was totally right for me. I thought I should be around people more, and that may still be true, but being around the wrong person will mess you up. Being alone and happy is a thousand times better than being around a negative, depressing person just because we should be, or need to be with other people.
Dump that friend. Let him be alone
Do you have any online friends? Sometimes just someone to communicate with in some way helps. I enjoy my online groups most of the time.
Yep I totally agree. We are not all the same and I too happy with my own company. Good luck.
I am happy with my own company's damp this friend good luck too you from Cape Town Iva.desk
You know yourself Annette. And that is all that matters. All the very best for the future. Take care.Be strong.X
This channel is amazing. Please never leave
I’ve had severe depression since age 13. I’m 41 now. There are a TON of known AND unknown factors involving depression & anxiety. Everything from your climate (CT dweller here sadly), your income, your nutrition, your physical fitness, your genetics, your living condition, and your support system or lack thereof. I was improving MASSIVELY after having ketamine infusions in Feb of this year! However, my beloved senior pup is on the brink of death. He’s literally my best friend & my constant workout buddy. I’m beyond devastated and my depression is back in full force now. I think now that I had a taste of being depression free-I’m almost worse off now that I am re-experiencing it. Anyway, take care everyone.
It’s very unfortunate timing that your best friend is dying. Many fur baby parents suffer enormously when they leave our lives depressed or not. I have always felt that depression is a Pit of despair and the longer you are depressed, the further down the Pit you are and the higher you have to climb out of it. To do this requires hard work, so I would consider the loss of your best friend as another hurdle into the road to recovery. Keep fighting and never give up.
@KemM2 I'm sorry for your pain and your furbaby. I think being from the south, we love our pets and miss them when they pass, but raised as everyone, including animals, all have a purpose in the home. Chickens-Eggs and meat, Cows-calves, milk and meat, Pigs-food compactor and meat, Dogs-Protection and companionship, Cats-mice and mole hunter and companionship. We are taught young, for everyone and everything, there is a season so maybe that helps with loss. It's human mistreatment that is the hardest to deal with and probably causes the most depression in the south. I hope you feel better soon and can find light and wonderful memories to get you through the hardships of your eldest pup.💖
Ketamine affects kidneys. I would not take that
Every dog is different and irreplaceable, but every dog gives joy, I have had depression all my live and every time I have lost a dog, have suffered too much. But a dog soul have been there for me to cure every lose. Now I’m grateful for having all of the good memories for each one of my dogs, that I know I only can have because when they died then give space for a new friend. Some people say God give a short live to the dogs because he wants us to enjoy many of them in our life time. Now I have an old dog, I’m afraid of not having him in my life, but at the same time I am hopeful that god will sent me other perfect best friend to heal. Believing in that help me to cope with the certain lose of my best friend.
@@the.blue.raven7777 I know its mostly unsupervised use but ketamine can have all sorts of horrendous side effects. Is def used medically but very very last resort imo
Makes SO MUCH sense! We all need more gratifying connections with people, jobs we feel gratification with, and to belong to like-minded tribes! Nice presentation!
The question is how to get that all?
@jim My grandfather drank all his life and smoked a pipe around the clock, never had a single ailment until he dropped dead at 92. However, his wife smoked 5 packs a day of Pall Mall, had repeated bouts of pneumonia and died of emphysema at 72 i think. Some people are naturally stronger and some arent but lifestyle definitely plays a part. How much? We dont know until it hits us.
I believe in being grateful...it distracts me from pain
Pavlov way
Tribalism is a major problem..were not animals
Thank you so much for your words! I've been severly depressed for more than 6 years and went straight to the 51st level, twice, and I've been the last 22 years awakening and healing all the inner traumas and trying to keep my self "safe" from the "normal society", and the best antidepressant has been doing holistic practices, like Yoga, and that is my profession right now, where I try to help people with depression and anxiety, building the most wonderfull community! And i must say that the thing that triggered my "so called depression" was to question who was I, what was i doing here, what was my purpose, I was then diagnosed with bipolarity, personality disorder, severe depression, OCB and so on... I was just trying to figure out the meaning of life, alone!
Study the yoga practice of equality consciousness. It works.
@@daryjohnmizelle Olá! Yes it does! Thank you!
People hate when someone is questioning the meaning of life and who they are. I don’t know why either except a guess that they don’t want to think about it themselves. People like to pretend we know everything already and we can easily categorize everything and everyone around us. Fear of the unknown?
Jesus loves you more than you could possibly know. He is our only hope in this world. Could you say that you are 100% sure that you would have a home in heaven? What are you basing that on? If you are basing it on anything other than your faith in the finished work of Jesus on the cross, you do not understand God's way to heaven. The Bible says that we are all sinners. When God created Adam and Eve, He made them perfect without sin, but they chose to disobey God and became sinful in nature. This sin nature was passed down to all humanity. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Our sin separates us from God. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. Sin must be paid for and God's price for sin is death, but not just a physical death, but a spiritual death which means separation from God forever in hell. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. In the Old Testament when man sinned, God required the sacrifice of a perfectly spotless lamb as a substitute in the place of the sinner. The blood of that lamb was only a temporary payment for their sin and so this had to be done often. Jesus Christ, God's Son took on flesh, was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life and offered Himself as that perfect, spotless Lamb and shed His blood as payment for the sins of the whole world. John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and scourge Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and nailed His hands and feet to a cross. He hung in agony for hours bleeding, thirsting, struggling for every breath. He died innocently in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else. There is no greater love than that! John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He promised and He still lives today! Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. 6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the FREE gift of eternal life in heaven with Him! You cannot do anything to earn your own way into heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a FREE gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must repent, change your mind and admit you are a sinner headed for hell. You must believe that Jesus died and paid for your sin with His own blood on the cross, was buried and 3 days later rose from the dead. Then you must simply call on Him and ask Him to save you. Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. None of us deserve God's mercy and grace, but let me warn you that if you reject His FREE gift, you are already condemned and when you die, you will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW wherever you are at because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word, ask Him to save you and He will! ---------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like more information or don't have a church to attend, we livestream our services and would love for you to join us. God bless you. facebook.com/regkelly.table/ www.libertyfaith.net/contact-us
There's actually a lot of research showing yoga and meditation actually makes your depression far worse. Do a search for Stephen Bancarz and the dangers of meditation and yoga. I used to do these things and I ended up suicidal.
I only feel depressed, when I am bored..as soon as I keep busy, that feeling goes away...changing the way we think ,...just keep busy..
I’m happy that works for you! But it’s way more complicated than that for others
My happiest moments in life that changed my depression were: my brother moving out of home. Me moving out of home. Moving interstate lol. Moving back to my original state. Living alone (having unfettered control over my environment), meeting my ex, leaving my ex, meeting a new family pet. It's sad that none of these happiest moments involve family. My family are strong in some ways but we don't touch, they don't ask me questions about my life or my thoughts on issues. I envy families who seem to want connection. My family are loners, we don't get involved in communities. Hence I find it hard to relate to communities. I'll get there one day.
Empathy
Such a great talk. So much to think about & experiment with 👍🏼 Thanks for this Johann 🙏 Just what I needed to hear 💜
Gardening and nature have been my saviour I’m now 75 and I’m starting to feel anxious as I can’t get so much into the garden due to a wet summer and now a wet winter with torrential rain here in Australia and due to covid which has cause so much upheaval and anxiety 👍🌺
Being outdoor depresses me even more
Can you do any gardening indoors? In pots or a mini greenhouse? A sunporch to keep plants or perhaps indoor plants or dwarf trees?
Great suggestion!
Remain STRONG ☮️
Brilliant and great book also - 'Lost connections'. Cleary this man is the kind of person we need more of. Huge respect to you Johann - Thank You and a giant hug my friend
A huge heart burst of love for Johann Hari! Good work! Good clarity! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️.
Oh my goodness on top of this being an amazing informative lecture incredible answers to my years, my parents, children (1 of 2), and now a granddaughter with depression it all makes sense. And the answers lit up in my head. Thank you 🙏🏽 The other astonishing thing was his knowledge of Knox College. That was where I grew up in Galesburg, my dad the doctor for Knox and traveled to Barcelona living there and interacting with the university students from Knox now in Barcelona Spain and I was only 8-10. Amazing memories!! You were excellent with such important knowledge! Bless you today and throughout your lifetime.
You are so absolutely right, unfortunately, most are worried about protecting their own behind. It takes such bravery, logic and an enlightened being to speak the truth. Bravo and Thank You
You hit every mark within my therapy steps that I've been working for the last 4 years. You explained and defined what I've been trying to tell my family about how my life has changed SO MUCH for the BETTER because of my therapist and putting in the WORK by following her program. Thank you for putting into an easily understandable and comprehensive definition what I could not. My sister shared it with me and I've shared it with MANY OTHERS! You've NAILED IT!!!😁😁😁 THANK YOU!!!
I've suffered with depression for most of my 22 years of existence. I've also suffered from manic depressive episodes, severe mood swings, even anxiety. Then I decided to try something new and a little out there, I began to fast every once and a while, it indeed did help. But I knew in the long term I wasn't going to be able to fix whatever was broken within. Then I heard about a strict way of eating called carnivore, I did a deep dive into science for quite a while, and found that most nutrition science is just epidemiology (And not very convening ones for that matter) A field of study that can't prove causation. So I looked for answers on KZhead and found a whole sort of anecdotes and supposed benefits. Which somewhat disappointed me because I'm the type who searches for answers . Eventually, my perseverance paid off, I found fellows who've had experience in the medical field and are advocates of a carnivorous diet, Bart Kay, Dr. Ken Berry and Paul Mason. And they themselves offered good advice on how to get started on the diet, as well as Bart going so far as to give examples of Comparative anatomy and evolution. I decided to do my own research with anatomy and human evolution, and found his arguments rather compelling, and next thing I knew I was on board. And after a year and a half (Maybe two years at most) of self experimentation, I am proud to say that ever looming cloud of depression was gone, along with mood swings, anxiety, manic episodes, and hell! I'll even go so far as to say I feel as though my autism is slowly receding (That's not to say I don't need something stimulatory from time to time, just not at nearly the degree I once needed). All of this combined with the fact I'm not longer fat, I've become more of a morning person, I have more energy and I'm just all around in a better state of mind. All in all, I'm glad I turned down prescription drugs and started to decide what's best for me, in spite of the condescension I've gotten from everyone else. If you take away anything from reading this. Just remember that it's okay to go out on a limb and try new things, and sometimes all that needs to change to feel great, is diet and sleep.
Can you say that the carnivorous diet indeed helped you? Or you focusing your attention in researching and getting your mind busy helped you? I re-read your text, but I wasn’t sure of your point. Thank you for reading me.
@@costa2ber It was a carnivorous diet that deeply helped me. I'm a researcher by nature (One could've classified my "researcher nature" as an obsession before the diet soothed me out).
Married to a man who can’t love or affirm has no ability to be demonstrative. Up until the last week when I got sick I could cope. Now I am just hanging on with a new antidepressant and a better understanding from your video
I’m sorry. Wish I were your guy instead of that creep.
I relate to your situation...I married my high school sweetheart and that started my nightmare of 29 years...I have been divorced now for 20 years ..I am finally happy with my life ..I am alone..I cannot trust myself to find someone to share my life with...but I like myself and love my freedom...this talk was amazing..I wish that I had heard it some 50 years ago....keep on helping people in whatever way you can as it really does help yourself !! hugs to all those who need one!
Listened to this while working. Excellent speaker and on the spot with subject matter.
This makes Perfect Sense to me. I’ve got good reasons to feel depressed! I need to change my situation to change my depression! May not apply for everyone but it does for me.
" felt like pain was leaking out of me" 😳 that hits home!
something that slowly came to me, my answer to long term anxiety, which led to, or with me, goes hand in hand with Iong term depression, is to pray, moment by moment, & not a prayer for anything but healing, and to feel it around u, thru u, within u, and allowing it to overflow to all around or in contact with you. the way i describe it is to feel the feeling that u are being held by someone you love and who you know loves you. you can feel this healing feeling, can bring it on in waves, any time that you want & remember to feel it, it may take practice, but it is worth it. to quote Swami Vivekananda, (1863-1902): "prayer is not an attempt to change gods mind; it's an attempt to let god change our minds."
“Felt like pain was leaking out of me”….Yup. Spot on. Whole soul like an angry abscess under a rotten tooth, pain leaking out like needful relief. Consumption of strong flavoured or sugary ideas ( such as are found in The Guardian newspaper) to distract from the cause of the rot. That WAS me. I say “was”. The antibiotic cure? Well, just as a shorthand answer, ( cannot be reproducing a life story in a YT comment), I listened to every Jordan Peterson thing on You Tube…all the stuff published BEFORE he blew up into a huge phenomenon. His books are…meh..okay I guess. Early YT stuff is the thing. I HAD a loving family, friends, steady job, roof over my head, food to eat, etc etc etc ALL the basic , needful things for happiness, everything that anyone living in real Hell ( Venezuela , Russia, China) could possibly ask for and was NOT grateful for it. I was a Guardian reader..or Independent, or anything Johann might write for. Johann is a lovely guy…but ALL the left wing ideas are pure poison. All, deeply, fundamentally, basically poisonous and wrong. It is like wandering around with your shoes full of broken glass…you CAN walk…but you make it HARD with every step. Giving that stuff up? Like giving up smoking. BEST thing I ever did. Giving up pride, and hate, and nihilism ….pride mostly. My social justice religion. I say “religion” and I am not joking. If you feel a compulsion to stone me, to silence my blasphemous words….I invite you to NOTICE that. Anyhoo. Peace. Out. Be well.
I had to pause the vid and did a hard thought about that one 💭 Powerful! 😮💨
Sure did
I just pretend i shoot my head off.. And all that feeling goes away.. And makes me feel better. Then i have nice music on a coffee then go out in nature when o am ready to leave my apartment.
This is one of the best talks I have ever listened to. Time valuably spent
I think it might be the case for some people. I’ve tried gardening, exercising, walking, hobbies of all kinds, therapy, countless books etc...and still could not get past my terrible anxiety and depression. How I worked full time during this is a freaking miracle. My last bout was last year and lasted 8 months. I needed relief and went back on my Zoloft. I’m so thankful for my Zoloft, I couldn’t go one more day of feeling like total crap and was just plain tired . I started getting depressed with anxiety in my early 30’s . I’m 59 now and thankful that I live in a time where there’s something that can help people. 😊
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I don't think gardening, exercise or hobbies are what is being referred to hear. It's what comes with these activities when done with other people. A sense of community is part of what is required but that in itself was not enough for me personally. I could be around people all day long and feel like the loneliest person in the world. I had to find a community of people where I felt I actually belonged. People I could relate to, feel comfortable enough around to let my guard down, communicate honestly and be myself. Easy to say, hard to do. The other component for me is service to others, helping others. I often don't feel like doing it but I've had enough experience in doing this that I know it works. I don't just mean helping friends or family but helping strangers with no expectation of anything in return. The irony being it does make me feel better in general, or at least normal but i generally do some sense of fulfillment from doing this that stays with me longer than anything else I've tried. Suffered from depression my whole life but when I do these things it's mostly a non issue
Hang in there. Glad you found some relief
@Tracie Hedin It's not about the hobbies. It's about community. You can have the hobbies, but if you don't have a carrying tribe with you, you'll still be suffering.
@@bristlefist I have found that helping animals also helps me. I started going to several feral cat colonies, at night, with a friend, and we would feed the cats. Also worked with a private local humaine society to find homes for the kittens we could catch and socialize. Very rewarding.
That was one of the most powerful videos I have watched. Thank you so much
Same here... very uplifting and hopeful.
Good point about multiple traumatic events.
You are so right. 100%. Community is the key. It's why my classroom works. I create community and monitor and trouble shoot and it works. They learn and reach functional English in a relatively short time.
Excellent Video and true. My depression was gone when I started drinking Magnesium and Vitamin D3. I never went to a shrink.
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Revegetating a patch of bush down the back after discovering native orchids coming up in spring. Moved semi rural after my son died in a motorcycle accident. Daughter loved horses so that was the reason we moved. That was 24 years ago. She became a jockey.
Beautifully said!
I'm so sorry for your loss 😢 Rural living is very healing. I'm sure it helped the whole family. I'm glad your daughter is doing what she loves 💘
Patch of bush?
@@kristieoliver6750 bush is the name we give the natural vegetation in Australia. Amazing flowers in the spring
Valuable lecture! Thanks for sharing!🥰
Very nice of you to do extensive research into the cause for Depression. The things you’ve discovered I cannot challenge,but there’s an area of this study I’ve found to be very valuable that I believe in my research was not incorporated to help victims of this horrible experience that is called Depression. I was married for 34 years to a man who suffered manic depression. I hadn’t known what I’d been dealing with until a few years into the marriage. I became a counselor more than a wife out of necessity in order to help him have a quality life. I felt compassion for him since I knew that he was being tortured by something whereas I could feel comfortable within myself. I had the need to go deeper into what he actually felt. To make a long story short we discovered that there were triggers that took him into the phases he’d get into from time to time. He took medicine that was prescribed by his doctor, but I continued to lift his self esteem and remind him that he had a life that God gave him that was his and that his life was precious! I let him know that he was responsible for that life and that no voice , thought or idea that wanted to assume control of him was just an invader that he had to vehemently repel! This was so successful that he’d come home from work and tell me how he recognized things that caused his triggers and how he avoided them. However, we were divorced after 35 years because taking care of him all those years started to affect me and I had to get out! I feel compassion for him to this day and am always concerned for his well being and remained his friend.
wendy wilson-granger Your ex-husband was a bitch. I have a depression too and I just punch it in the face! (metaphorically, I am not actually punching myself in the face) Anyway he must have been super hot and good in bed, cuz if I had a depressed friend or girlfriend I would dump them immediately. Not my problem, suckers!
@@nihilism6226 she specified her husband had manic depression which is Bipolar disorder - that's not comparable to your personal experience with just depression. No need to be rude.
I had a very similar experience. Its soul murdering to be the spouse of someone who is checked out so deeply.… I don’t understand how to file away these paradoxes exactly ….
Your such a wonderful person Wendy Wilson !♥️ Selfless giving and that has helped that husband of 35 yrs... in ways of such healing for him and permanently . Nothing is perfect..but what you gave to him is real selfless love . ♥️
@@annstar4306 Lovely comment. 👍🏾❤😊💚
FANTASTIC conversation. Thank you for sharing this!!! You are very deep and this is really needed in our world.
I enjoy being alone. I don't have to deal with other people negativity. I found inner peace being alone.
This was a very good presentation with helpful and interesting information. I would have loved it if the camera had been zoomed in on the speaker. But I loved it anyway.
Yes he should step out from the desk
Thank you so much. I really learned a lot.
I'd never heard the pre-ACEs story. I was in tears, and understood the impllication for you. Hugs.
Absolutely amazing. Talking is key. Thank you so much . Love and peace to all💞💞
This is truly inspirational 👏 thank you 😊 for this knowledge.
Sounds right. Seems so obvious when you hear it, yet so many people are being medicated for depression. Thanks for this.
One of the best on line lectures on depression!
Awesome 😎👍 I am sharing This!! Thank you again so very much and I am so grateful to KZhead and the random way that this turned up in my life!!
Great speaker 🤗♥️
Thank you so much for making this valuable information available to us.
Thank you so much for sharing " felt like pain was leaking out of me" literally what I'm going through right now😥
Same.
Just brilliant! You’re openness, humility, the thoroughness of your research, your empathy and love. Thank god for you and your work! I 100% agrees with all your findings. There’s a fundamental paradigm shift which needs to and is happening to drop the ineffective systems we’ve devised which sweep symptoms, so called, under the carpet and clearly aren’t working. Symptoms of a sick system. Love your examples of the bicycle shop and Berlin demonstrating efficacy, love, listening, being heard and agency vanish anxiety and depression. Thank you 🙏
My depression is mainly caused by lonliness and not belonging. Sometimes are worse than others. I do things I enjoy. But, I always do it alone. Which then triggers the next bout. Im 56 and always get told be happy with yourself. Suppose oneday I will have true human champanionship. Until then Ill take my tabs because I dont know what else to do. Keep smiling x
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@@maijab I have and do. Im glad they understand my depression. Because, I sometimes cut them off when im inside myself. But I do smile more than I use to. Thats a blessing.
Depression is focusing on the negatives in one's life instead of the positives because we think that life should be perfect. Life is never perfect so we have to focus on the good parts of our life instead of the not so good things about our lives. Very day write 10 things that are good about your life and gradually you will retrain your thinking to focus on the positive.
I just read your post. You are doing all that you can. In my life - 51 - I don't expect people to be on my wavelength or be there for me in anyway. I just feel being kind is the best defence and attack! You have to share a pastime with a group - start gently and be a good listener. Life is practice - and I'm still learning! Just trying is enough- really it is. Keep going. Julie
@@sallybyrd3712I don’t think it’s that at all
As with all emotions, chronic depression conveys a message and signals to the individual that things need to change. Depression does have a purpose. The essential elements of depression are these clues and suggest what environmental and self-controlled elements can and should be changed. These include: helplessness (I have no control over my situation), hopelessness (sense of permanence), low self-esteem and shame (self-loathing), avoidance of interpersonal relations and social connection (social isolation as both an initial cause of depression or as a symptom of established depression), replacement of external purpose with self-absorption and thought loops (the me focus which develops as depression deepens), and no plan or goal for the future (causing nonspecific anxiety and helplessness). The anhedonia and loss of interest in pleasurable activities is an early signal that depression in present, but it does not mean that pursuing fun activities will reverse depression. It is a signal that change need to be made more than just taking medicine (which can help in the short run). Each of these elements can be changed by the depressed individual, and it is certainly easier to make changes as depression is starting before these behaviors and thought patterns become established . I was depressed once long ago for several years with a strong family history of depression (including my mother, a powerful predictor of chronic depression in offspring). I will never be depressed again since I listen to the above emotional signals and make immediate changes. It is a very liberating and powerful feeling. For individuals who get secondary gain (financial, emotional, social) from their depression this self-directed approach will not work and they are truly stuck in chronic depression. The key elements to eliminate or prevent depression are a short or long term plan (activated immediately), a focus and purpose outside of yourself, connection with other people, and addressing low self esteem and avoiding exacerbating situations. Get Outlook for iOS
You speak to me, but no matter if I lean in or out of social engagement,drink or don’t, take SSRI’s or not, stress myself physically or mentally ( I’m a marathoner and Triathlete) I cannot break out . Became very active in my Church. Nothing F- ing helps. So , dude, explain myself to me. Oh ,yes, I did talk therapy too. So , maybe my life actually doesn’t matter. There are some wonderful things I’ve done in my work life, now I’m retired I just don’t matter AT ALL. Good grief when my pain ends, it won’t be long they I’m just a forgotten ghost
@@jeannineserley2295 First thing I needed to see is how long ago you added your comment 18 hours ago, I was shocked after what you wrote there wasn't any response and I was pleased that it was only 18 hours ago. I don't have a magic bullet for you Jeannine but I just wanted you to know I HEARD YOUR PAIN & EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T KNOW ME AND I DON'T KNOW YOU BUT IF ANYTHING KNOW THIS.. IM THINKING OF YOU 💞
@@biancamomot3980 bless your heart! I’ve been watching quite a few talks on the subject of mental health and I’m thinking more and more about depression as a response to life situations that we all can work on and work out day by day.
Fantastic, comment.
@@jeannineserley2295 I am sorry you have had such frustration moving out of your depression. The sense of permanence that comes with long standing depression can be overwhelming. I suggest that you look into psilocybin assisted therapy in Oregon. They should be on line in 2023, they are getting it set up now. Psilocybin seems to alter chronic thought patterns by creating a soothing and spiritual moment of connection with people and nature and also experience the real and viable thought that things can change - a foreign concept to the depressed mind. You have pursued some intensive solutions, but have you tried some smaller less ambitious activities which may result in a greater sense of connection, improved self esteem and quiet, gentle spirituality. This may include for example, a commitment to volunteering with handicapped adults or children, cancer patients, burn patients, kids without a parent, foster kids, recording for the blind, many other options. Not what many people choose to do, but it may be the tonic to help. I do not trivialize my suggestion as simple to do, as a depressed person does not easily pursue those activities, but it may help to move you from your depression rut. If you do so, for it to help, it will take a focus, a commitment, to these people. I hope this may help a little.
So fantastically on the ball. I just love you for this research and sharing xo
this is a brilliant talk. i have lived with sadness, depression & anxiety for my whole life. community is vital. ALSO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE GUT/BRAIN CONNECTION IS CRITICAL..MOOD = your microbiome . brilliant joann. will be sharing this talk. blessings to all who are experiencing or know someone experiencing depression.
Loved my job. Love retirement more. At my job, I was the only one without a counterpart. It was great. Fast forward 15 years, they brought in a micromanager. Two years later, I retired. I now volunteer in my field. It's on my terms and I feel appreciated again as well as helping others
Can you put what she said on the screen. We can’t hear her. Love your research. Belonging is essential having purpose and feeling loved.
This is what I’ve been telling people I need that will help is supportive people in my life other then my family who’s not supportive or understands me or cares
Dear Johann , thank you 🙏
Dr Sam Everington is an amazingly caring and insightful practitioner who is way ahead of his time. I lived in East London and worked in NHS for many years and found him impressive even at his young age back then as a newly qualified doc.
Could you say that you are 100% sure that you would have a home in heaven? What are you basing that on? If you are basing it on anything other than your faith in the finished work of Jesus on the cross, you do not understand God's way to heaven. The Bible says that we are all sinners. When God created Adam and Eve, He made them perfect without sin, but they chose to disobey God and became sinful in nature. This sin nature was passed down to all humanity. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Our sin separates us from God. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. Sin must be paid for and God's price for sin is death, but not just a physical death, but a spiritual death which means separation from God forever in hell. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. In the Old Testament when man sinned, God required the sacrifice of a perfectly spotless lamb as a substitute in the place of the sinner. The blood of that lamb was only a temporary payment for their sin and so this had to be done often. Jesus Christ, God's Son took on flesh, was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life and offered Himself as that perfect, spotless Lamb and shed His blood as payment for the sins of the whole world. John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and scourge Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and nailed His hands and feet to a cross. He hung in agony for hours bleeding, thirsting, struggling for every breath. He died innocently in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else. There is no greater love than that! John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He promised and He still lives today! Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. 6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the FREE gift of eternal life in heaven with Him! You cannot do anything to earn your own way into heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a FREE gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must repent, change your mind and admit you are a sinner headed for hell. You must believe that Jesus died and paid for your sin with His own blood on the cross, was buried and 3 days later rose from the dead. Then you must simply call on Him and ask Him to save you. Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. None of us deserve God's mercy and grace, but let me warn you that if you reject His FREE gift, you are already condemned and when you die, you will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Please don't wait. 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The 'chemical imbalance' in the brain is a symptom, not the cause. I always knew this, even 20 years ago when all doctors believed the lie that it was the cause. My depression is caused by life circumstances.
Great comment. This is partly why I am afraid to bring this up to doctor/counselor. Be because they may jump right to drugs.
its part of why chemical drug does help but only temporarely. In response to stimulus our bodies and brain constantly re-adjust and maintain homeostasis. Tolerance to drug develops over time and vice versa. Antidepressants fix the chemical imbalance, but since brain still perceives that conditions for depression are still in effect, it leans towards homeostasis - and suppresses the serotonin activity to the point where it doesnt inhibit depressive symptoms anymore and until the conditions for depression are not changed the brain will keep returning to that state and there's no quick way to get around this mechanism because of how deep inside the core brain structures it is. brain is a complex network that is selfregulating and has a mechanisms inplace that track whether its out of order of homeostasis or not. And when antidepressants increase serotonin acitivty, this triggers the self control mechanisms and the brain adapts by downregulating the serotonin neurons to be less receptive to serotonin levels. this lessened serotonergic activity and thus set the conditions for depression again and until life conditions are changed the brain will keep returning to this. You can try many things but if it doesnt help depression it merely means that it doesnt change the fundamental conditions that your brain perceives as a trigger for depression. it merely means theres something wrong with the way you live. now its very hard to change and process the things that need to be changed but thats all it means. That's why depressed people sometimes try something or experience something that suddenly gives noticeable relief from depression, its like suddenly your consciousness was dormant and was woken up, and you felt drastically lower levels of depression and anxiety and higher levels of meaning and positive emotion. It means it hit somewhere close to the root of the problem, it affected some of the conditions triggering depression. since brain increases serotonin and dopamine activity in response to meaningful engaging conditions, and meeting your mental and physical needs like sense of community and acceptance and future, so taking antidepressants temporarily does give relief but the problem is that the brain will dampen the serotonin receptors because the fundamental conditions of life havent changed, just serotonin levels. Of course brain will return to depression. Some people do get significant permanent relief from antidepressants, because brain is a complex thing and can often get stuck in feedback loops where simply unstucking them helps, it works like clearing cache on a computer. Often that relief is enough to change the conditions of life to some degree, which gives relief and then you can do even more about it, so its supposed to be a positive feedback loop, thats why for a lot of people can be helped with antidepressants only. It doesnt fix root problem, simply gives you momentum that you can make use of to actually change things which may have no happened before antidepressants if you get so depressed and stuck that you are unable to start moving.
@@timfronimos459 I've read some of your other comments. Look into Functional Medicine and Dr. Mark Hyman, here on YT. There may be a center where you live. They offer alternatives.
Crescendo, so true. I'm sure my depression is caused by life circumstances. I watched some videos by Dr. Peter Breggin....he is psychiatrist and he said he never gave any of his patients medication. He said love is what he gave them. Love is the cure. Unfortunately many of us are never truly loved.
@@ravenraven966 Sorry to interject on someone else's message but you are never alone and you are allowed to be on measure. Should you want to hear more just ask but I would never want to reject my face or spiritual journey onto someone else without their permission.
I just want to clarify one thing as a therapist. Not shaming people and affirming them is not the same thing as affirming the behavior.
Well done.
I do have unmet needs, but I can't meet them on my own, hence I drink as it's my only friend. If course it's not a good friend but it's all I have. Also I understand this choice of alcohol is a symptom initially of depression but now it's largely the cause. It's a tough cycle to jump out of. Great talk.
In idee fixe. Obsess about something else, money is popular. Food is the hardest addiction to beat, you have to eat.
Good luck to you James, you have some work ahead of you. With alcoholism you might need supplements. In your own time, you might want to research microdosing (yes, mushrooms). Radiola rosea is another one, a root from a plant that is a mood enhancer, an adaptogen. That would be my choice, it helps me sometimes to get through the depths of depression. There are others that i dont know the name of right now but temporary help from a supplement is ok, whatever does the trick right? They are not addictive like prescription drugs, those i would stay far away from. Reach out if you can, know that with or without support you can do this. Guidance can make it easier. Strength and love to you James.
@@splijter thanks for the detailed advice, adaptogens interest me but I remember taking ashwaganda and becoming dangerously lethargic, haha, though if I am sat at home and need to chill out maybe these are useful if used correctly. Thanks
@@chrispaul4599 I do need more fulfilling things to do. It's definitely also a product of self induced boredom due to feeling isolated and then isolating further. I only feel comfortable some days if I am tipsy, but again this is a terrible way of curing anxiety. God it's a hard battle I have for sure
@@jamesbyrne9312 i have used ashwaganda. It is to calm down the nervous system, works well for me. So, ashwaganda relaxes, radeola is a light energy booster. Actually the combination (ashwaganda and radeola rosea) works well for me to steady my energy and up my mood ever so slightly. Thanks for your reply, today i speak with someone who knows much about adaptogens, if i learn something new i will post it to you, good day
this is an amazing video..I totally agree it is about BELONGING..to feel important to someone.
Yep but then we get pulled down by the very thing of being important to someone.
Incredible video, thank you!
Thank you so much. You are a life saver for me today.💞
I lived on my own for 10 years. From 22 to 32. People constantly asked me about depression, loneliness or even boredom. How can you stand living alone? I was BUSY. I worked, I went to the gym, piano lessons, calligraphy classes, self defense classes, gardening. I never felt lonely. Not once. Never felt depression. I still think to this day that it was because my life had meaning. I think that's all you need.
@Rather B Hunter than Prey - I can be doing all those things, and depression will strike out of the blue
@@montesa9136 it's not just blindly doing, it was having goals, a purpose and as for working, responsibility. All those things gave my life meaning. I wish you all the best!
@@KissingTrolls17 I had all of that. It did not prevent to have Major Depression.
@@KissingTrolls17 @Rather B Hunter than Prey - Absolutely! Goals, Purpose, Responsibility, a Sense of Belonging .... ect ... are all ESSENTIAL for good mental health. Unfortunately, Severe, Chronic, Major Depression has robbed me of all those things decades ago. Nobody can do any of those things if they are severely depressed ......
Far from abstract, spot on. We have to be so strong, children were raised by a village, the nuclear family doesn't work. But we are all so busy surviving. We can work less if we all helped each other, we are constantly fighting each other, for money to survive. Exhausted depressed ..... means deep rest ! We need to rest. We need to be more self sufficient within our community, to relax and know someone will be there if we need them. Support, we no longer support each other, I think if 30% of people it could even be less, have a similar mindset it tips the balance. But how do we promote it in a non monetary form. Money is the root of all blocks in life, it blocks us, it becomes our focus. Blocked .... Frustrating. So hear you, with the work thing, everything I want to do means I have to get a degree, missing natural talents. We need to be trusted, kill the ego, respect for employees, most of us work really hard and get nowhere, no wonder we feel sad, and dis respected, never being heard. Fantastic, been a pleasure to listen to your mind, I can totally relate, progressive. Value, what do you think of when I write that word. What is value What is it worth, What's valuable in you life Think of something you value. 1. 2. 3. 4. Money ?
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I agree with that opening statement.
Ive read your book. So pleased to hear you speak. Working in the NHS for years as a GP was like swimming against the tide. Everything I thought about mental 'health' rather than illness has now come to light. I went through criticism and ridicule for my ideas and opinions. I had to take 8 weeks off for depression. I felt isolated as a single parent and shame for that too. I was prescribed antidepressants and nearly killed myself. The cure was decorating and walking my dog. I came back to work with clarity that I was doing a great job both at work and at home. I didnt have many friends but connected well with patients. In the end that was what matters not who was pulling more money into the practice. In fact I had the highest face to face consultation rate and in charge of palliative care. I was exhausted with on call. Fortunately that was removed but by then I had decided to retire early. I had already missed out on so much in life. I now have the life I dreamed of at 72.
Wonderful lecture. It would have been even better to be able to hear the audience comments and questions better.
It's about 20 years ago when I took an antidepression medicaments and it worked in a way I didn't feel pain anymore but I have stopped to feel absolutely everything. Neither negative feelings nor positive ones. Just like a robot. This "zero" state feeling was so terrible for me that I haven't even finished the dose what doctors don't recommend. After this experience I said to myself that's better to feel misery like absolutely nothing. I guess the meditation did help me much to get my mental balance back 🙂
I suspect your depression was not as serious as other people's. When I was depressed 21 years ago I was put on an anti-depressent (Wellbutrin) and within a month I wanted to live again. I was excited about life like I hadn't been in at least ten years. I went to school and was able to funtion. I could look at a beautiful tree and see beauty again. It sounds hokey, but it's true. I have a suspicion that your depression was much milder than mine so you decided to live with the depression vs. medication. If I don't take my meds I become suicidal. I'm only writing this so that other people reading our comments won't think that anti-depressents won't work well - especially if anyone reading this is suicidal. There are different levels of depression and medication can make the difference between life and death.
@One of those Creative types Oh yeah, that seems to be right. I fully understand my depression experience, feelings and consequences just personally in particular time and subjective point of view. Generally I'm just a laicus not aspiring to substitute any expert on this or another field. However my life time experience did learn me to deal with personal troubles in natural way as much as possible. What I'm trying regarding to experts, doctors and scientists only, is to learn and grasp their subject as I can, from lectures like this one. Thank you 🙂
@@oneofthosecreativetypes24 I suppose @Dusan simply had a different sort of depression. Just because anti depressive medication helped you, does not mean, it must help everybody. I also know a woman, who is all good since she gets her medication. This actually was the reason why I truly believed this MUST help me too. But they didn't and made everyting worse, even though I tried several products.
@@oneofthosecreativetypes24 there is an explanation to suicidal tendency. It’s not just depression. And although it seems archaic. I believe there is spiritual connection with serious depression that is suicidal. I think a good book to read is “ the people of the lie” I’m glad that medication has helped you though. I don’t know who you are but I care for you. If you live, there is always hope as long as you have life. God bless you.
@@oneofthosecreativetypes24 you took a dopaminergic drug, he took serotonergic drug. Big difference. While both can work they are totally different.
This must sound like a breath of fresh air to lonely and depressed people the future looks bright if people like you keep spreading common sense
The speaker makes a a lot of sense. Because I experienced it
I’m an introvert so I kinda like being disconnected from people. 🤷🏻♀️ I think I was born depressed. And I could see a flat affect come and go in my daughter since she was an infant! She, too, suffers from severe depression, even though we’ve been very supportive and very positive. We’ve both tried the positive thinking to a very committed and deep degree. But when the valley is low, it’s insanely impossible. If someone is situationally depressed, then this video makes sense. But clinical depression feels like a black hole. It literally feels like I have those horse blinders on, like I have tunnel vision. I feel foggy and confused and make wrong decisions. I love sleep. I can barely speak without tripping over my words when I’m depressed. My face looks flat, like the muscles that express joy are broken. Trying to smile when I’m depressed always looks fake, and I’ve been called out on it many times. Etc, etc. I do agree with trying to look at things differently. But this whole video is probably best for situational depression.
How do you think it influences your daughter ? Werent you raised that way too? My parents raised me in separation, because of their unsolved childhood wounds, it was so painfull and I have problems to connect with people whole my life, I thought I was an introvert but I am noy. Please dont do it to your daughter, you can heall for her and try to open up more
@@beingbeauteous8092 my daughter is 32 now. She’s had all kinds of love, praise, freedoms, joy, etc. I tried not to show my depression to her. I did everything the opposite of my mom, who raged at me all the time. Nonsensical rages. I never raged to my kids. My mom got mad about the dumbest things and consistently made me feel like I was stupid and an awful person. I told my daughter positive things and gave her so much love. I think its just inherited. I have thought about this tons.
@P T That's great that you were able to stay positive after all the abuse you went through and raised your doughter better way. Its normal reaction to become depressed when your own mother treats you that way to be honest. Im not a psychologist, it might be inherited. But at least partially, it can be an intergenerational trauma carried in subconciency. It took generations to create it and it has to take generations to heal it. I disvovered this way to look at my problems last year and it helped me do much, im a different person now. Stay strong 💪
I feel for you and your daughter. I was born depressed too. I have an identical twin brother who doesn't have depression. I was incubated for about 3 or 4 weeks as we were premature; my brother went home that first day. I often wonder if I wasn't held enough in those critical first few weeks, or that part of my brain didn't fully develop or something. From the earliest baby pictures and on, they always show me not smiling (or trying to but can't) while my brother is all smiles. People claim that depression is a choice or "You just need to think positive", "Pray to Jesus" and the like have no idea what they are talking about and end up trivializing my depression, as if there's an easy fix and I just am too lazy to do it. Situational depression certainly can be treated with proper talk therapy and the like; biological depression is much harder to contend with. I'm 44 years old and I still haven't been able to improve much, even after spending easily $100,000+ on different treatment options (psychotherapy, meditation, TCS, herbs, and prescriptions (all have helped to a limited degree, but not enough to be considered passable; going from a 8 or 9 in depression down to a 5 or 6 on occasion temporarily is still a challenge. Opioid based products (such as kratom, tianeptine work in a little while but come with a huge cost once they stop working). I'm researching psychedelics such as psilocybin to see if increasing neuroplasticity and other neurological improvements may help. Best of luck for you and your daughter on your journey and God Bless.
@@Secunda001 oh, Ryan, God bless you, too! Heavy duty prayers for you tonight!
Dr Gabor Mate’ lectures on all of this. Many of us have never had our needs met since childhood. Dr Mate’ has written books on this also.
That story at around 40:00. so touching.
Wholesome and inspiring. Amazing. ❤
This is so on point ...
Take v D3. And litium oratate. And a good veggie diet. Plenty of sun and good friends. It works.
What an exceptional speaker. Excellent!
What a brilliant talk....thank you...
This is so empowering…thank you very much:)
I agree with you in many ways. Growing up with stepdad that was very untrusting and unsociable . Has made minimal progress in life i know why now but it definitely stunted me . Him not wanting people around negativity. I wasn’t really used to that intensity of unhappiness but i was the most exposed being the youngest. I felt like why God. He was just trying to help my mom raise us asap so we would be gone and unburden them. They are still often weird like this very isolating. Funny I am too to a degree and ny husband. I tried helping my hubby but I decided to hrlp myself i gave him choices. Working at the local pet store in my neighborhood was amazing and helped me have a buffer with people and i saw much more positive energy came at me . My dog got to come to work often too. I don’t know how people get up every day to work at things they hate. But often they are afraid of failing or was used to being told . I guess my hubby likes his list of ehT to do but he gets to be by himself and his chores and being helpful. I had a blast to a degree in two different types of pet jobs. Now no pets no pet store on new wave trying to figure it out. I thought of dance but injured exercise too shy. I saw my hubby do tons of jobs . He would get bored. I never ate enough in my adulthood often and snd teenage-hood. Spent many years trying anti depressants. Ended up with the most effective and minimal. Dealing with others in very negative situations havr been hard let slone someone cranky . Learned alot sensitive to moods of people. Most people do seem meh. Oftrn . Following scripts of what they need to do. Now have most debilitating physical issues finding ways to be happy eating right trying relaxing exercising. My grandmother had depression issues after having first child. In the end of life lithium helped she lived in dark ohio had childhood trauma, probably post pardon depression ate horribly. How many people feel accepted these days maybe their family does but gets bullied . Crazy life just try to be as willing to grow test your feArs try things you want . I find a sadness after dog died and . I rotally agree that food diet vitamins are very helpful. I hate cooking but if i can eT good food I don’t cook mostly i am happy. Good time trying to figure it out. Its definitely connected to traumas . Fat people make me think they are often traumatized in some way. I get scared for that when i saw younger girl that was obese in dance. Interesting answers. I try to be skinny perfect as i can be would get me happy attention. My bro had brief sex with me once . I told somethingto my mom but not exactly what he did at my age of about 6. I tell my mom and sister in a letter describing the thr event. I asked my mom why didn’t she do more to ky brother she said if she told our stepdad he would have killed my brother who chose to be a juvenile delinquent. Yay he went yo his dad. Reading why we feel ir do and going to talk therapy was helpful never told the therapists or that i did not eat hardly. My stepdad made me feel shameful to be alive a white girl i was so spoiled compared to his horrible upbringing. My youth and sensitivity was sll over these off feelings. Ugh. Tired of dealing with other unmet issues. I am caring for self again. Not pleasing others joining in on negativity or gossip. Knowing life is usually a mix. Deciphering people and dealing with safe Christian groups helped alot as well . Having a faith my own chosen . I have God the father bible reading as well . He explained people big time and myself.
My depression I believe comes from people around me. That don't take responsibility for their actions. And they are narcissists. And they are very deceiving
I Loved this presentation ! So totally right on !! BRAVO!
I need this man as my guru
After you skim these comments, read his New York Times Bestseller, LOST CONNECTIONS. Thanks Mr. Hari for your research.
I feel sorry ,for people with depression, I think we all suffer from it....sometimes...I have lots of sympathy for those who have it badly.....glad there are solutions to it....and people can get help....it can be...treated....
@Jane Johnstone - Solutions for depression? What? There is no cure for the disease! The best they can do is numb the symptoms .....
Powerful message
What an amazing bloke!
great stuff 👍
Seroxat gave me suicidal ideation. 15 years of SSRI drugs & they nearly killed me. Now I'm 8 years clean of pharmaceuticals & my "illness" is much better. I had CPTSD not depression & anxiety. Misdiagnosed for 12 years.
How do you cope with your CPTSD?
So sorry for your suffering. I’m glad you’re doing better.
@@margrose5 Thank you for your kind words. x
For ages... Now I know, thank you
Thank you for your excellent message.
Johann, I suffered from terrible anxiety in my early twenties, and what I found was that if I engaged my Anxiety it became real; and that if I didn't engage my anxiety it eventually blended (- it might sound easy but it wasn't).
Please can you elaborate your experience ?
Johann Hari... everything we know is wrong and he has unexpected solutions!!!!
He is a journalist. They are experts in everything.
I don’t usually listen to anything longer than 30mins but this was so informative and engrossing. It should be on the National Curriculum. I would have liked to hear the audience questions.
Well done Johann!
Read religious scriptures it builds up positive thoughts in mind. We are just thoughts depending on which thoughts we have negative or positive that’s fruit we eat in life.
17:02 to get Beyond being controlled one must go inside and ask oneself who is it that feels they are not in control... There is a way of healing problems through self-inquiry. You must understand duality first.
Usually i dont mind people but i feel much better when theyre not around. Flow states are the best therapy
SO interesting! Thank you. We nead to be aware of all this.