Is the 57" Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 the BEST sim racing monitor ever?
2023 ж. 19 Қыр.
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They need to make an ultra wide equivalent to 3 monitors and it’ll be game over.
Yep. Still a dual mon 32x9 aspect. If it was 3 wide it would be 48x9. Has a bigger form factor tho. Taller and wider. The 49's look crunched and narrow in height. 3 x 32" lg nano IPS at 1440 are a true 3 wide and are 17' in height. 1440p is plenty for monitors that are 16-17" in height. Imo 1440p is a sweet spot for quite a while. Who needs 4k on a monitor that is only 14"-17" in height even if 57"? Notice that most specs don't reveal the actual physical height of monitor. My guess 15 or 16", maybe 17". That makes it equivalent to 2x32" lg nano with no IPS.
@@DownTheRabbit-Hole the screen is 2 inches higher than the 49"
@@DownTheRabbit-Holewell spoken but I HATE BEZELS for triples that’s why I consider this 57”.. Some persons don’t see bezels but I just see them 24/7
The camera work and sock game were on point in this video!
That looks amazing! Congratulation's on the sponsorship Matt!
We think it's the best and glad you do too 😜
I love racing on my SE790C. Samsung is the gold standard in the world of monitors and TVs.
Can I trade in my G7 for this? 😊
Does it have the same problems I'm having with my G9 OLED? 😭
@SamsungUS I just ordered one in large part due to Matt’s influence. I found out about the $500 Samsung credit through this video.
curious how many of these monitors were picked through to find the perfect panel with no samsung QC issues that the gaming community has been plagued with for years. If only the QC for these screens were the same quality for all customers and not just reviewers or CES models.
Why can't Samsung make a monitor equivalent to 3 x 32" screens? It would be the end of bezels.
Honestly it's fine. Atleast for me with the asus bezel free kit.
Cause no graphics card would be able to support such resolution at 240Hz at the moment.
Or make and sell bezel free kits
Double 32
@@fan2hd277120hz will be more than enough. It's what we're used to @4k triples anyway.
Man this video came out so nice! Will definitely be keeping an eye on this monitor moving forward. Props to Sam's camera work, as usual.
57" of Samsung, still couldn't see me pit in AMS. :D
Awesome video man! I’ve got the 49” G9 and was considering triples, but think this might be the way to go. Look forward to Sundays sponsored stream!
I went from 49 G9 to triples 32's and would never go back to a single screen, I have also tried this 57 and again I won't give up my triples any day soon. Cheers
@@adrianmilanesi9143 I'm currently leaning toward triple 32s too...These big ultrawides look so nice but I it's just not quite enough side view on both sides for me. Now I've just gotta decide whether 4k or 1440p ... My 4080 will handle either , but I don't know if the FPS sacrifice would be worth it for 4k
@adrianmilanesi9143 yeah, i got the 49inch g9 and with correct fov i cant see the sidemirrors, thought die 57inch version might be big enough but as seen in this video the mirrors only can be seen in the wrong fov. Have to switch to tripples
This is equal to two 32" monitors. A triple monitor setup with the Asus Bezel-Free Kit is the way to go in my opinion because you can see out of both side mirrors.
Did you drop in FPS though? I just gone from 32" single@165fps to triples and am only getting 55-60 pfs. Its a big difference that definitely affects my driving performance ive found. Im thinking of getting this screen just for the fps and resolution factors. @@adrianmilanesi9143
That looks SICK! How was setting up in the OBS with such resolution Matt?
Not too bad. Just resized the game capture to match the height of the canvas, then centered it
I am really happy for you - well deserved
Very Nice!!!! dont be crashing me off now! you can 100% see me along side you no excuse, thank you Samsung for saving me some deaths on track with this crazy person behind the wheel!
Way to go Matt. Nice new monitor
Samantha is becomming an expert with the camera. Excellent shots!
Great monitor to go with your 4090! It's an experience alright! Also, love seeing you and Samantha working together to get these videos done!
It doesn't even work at 240Hz with a 4090...
@@omegaPhix He needs to utilize the DP 2.1 port to get 240Hz. The HDMI port is limited to 120Hz (even labeled on the monitor port)
@@weikagen The 4090 has Displayport 1.4. Only the 7000 series AMD cards have Displayport 2.1 and that's why Samsung used those cards at their booth
lol.... irrelevant. You really think you can push 240 hz at that resolution anyways with decent looking graphics? Not gonna happen.@@omegaPhix
@@sirgriffinman Any e-sports title will run at 200+ fps, even at that resolution
Currently running a G9 49 inch ultra wide was real close to wanting to go triples but this might be the route. Think I would need to upgrade to the RTX 4090 for it? Currently running skytech 3080 with i9. Love the vids bro
You could always use DLSS or FSR balanced
so glad you wrote monitor on that one bit of 80/20 never would of guessed what went there lol
Hahahah. I get confused. Might of mounted my pedals there. Lol
That a huge monitor you have there, Malone ❤
This looks amazing! I have a 55" LGC1 that I'm using currently. I'd like to get a monitor or triples so I can use my lgc1 for my consoles and movies. How would you compare this to a Oled?
Matt, what vesa mount is that?? the way it slides on to the profile is awesome
You can tell the sponsored reviews from the non-sponsored ones. Sponsored reviews fail to mention that there isn't a graphics card available that can adequately drive the display to 240Hz @ 4K over DP 2.1. I believe the RTX 4090 doesn't support DP 2.1 (which is needed to attain 240Hz), and the AMD 7900 series can only do 1440 @ 240Hz over DP 2.1. A non-sponsored review would have told you this. Otherwise, it's a fun video.
True. But this is more of a product showcase video rather than a review.
Or maybe samsung released this knowing the soon to be released 5090 will breeze this monitor 😉
@@boosivemotorsportofficialThey killed SLI at the worst moment. 😂
@@boosivemotorsportofficial Yeah. only $5000 later youll be fine haha
Honest question with this monitor and the whole view of the car/track did your level of driving get better? If so can you explain?
how do u get duel 4k monitors in one single package... well... ya gotta link em!
Congrats Matt! Where is the extra 8" coming from vs a standard 49" superultra wide? taller or just wider?
Taller, like 2 32 inch monitors side by side instead of 2 27 inch.
It's 4in taller and 4in wider than a 49"
Thats not how it works @@drunkhusband6257
@@drunkhusband6257 Its actually 2 inches taller and 7 inches wider
You'd run that on display port for best results wouldn't you? Looks awesome
He specifically mentions using DP 2.1 for full 240Hz. HDMI yields 120Hz.
Asetek wheel bases are so cool i think they are the only ones who put Led strips on the base your rig is awesome
I see you brought out the 'professional matt' for this video and left 'unfiltered matt' in the cupboard, great video 👍
Hey Matt. Any chance you can share your picture settings? Brightness, contrast etc
Nice video! Ordered mine yesterday. Was hesitant since I’m currently using triple curved 32’s with a 4090 as well. What did you end up setting the FOV at for this monitor in Iracing? I’m hopeful that I can get it around 120 degrees (I should be seated around 21” away from screen). Hopeful that Samsung or Invidia provides an update to utilize the 240hz through display port.
Fov calculator using 20.5" viewing distance put it at 135 fov
how come you are swapping from triple 32's with more fov to this?
@@cmason87 I'm happy with my triples. I'm currently using the Gigabyte G32QC A 32" 165Hx 1440P curved and they work really well and get a full 180FOV. However, I feel like I hardly ever use the extra "back half" of my side monitors. Driving some of the cars they even have a safety net or other obstruction blocking your view in this area anyway. I typically don't "see" the bezels between the monitors but I thought if I can get at least 120FOV bezel free it may be the sweet spot. I also think it will be easier to run at a higher resolution/frame rate. I've been on triples for several years and this is the first monitor that I thought might replace them.
don't the triple allow you to see all mirrors vs the ultra wide that usually only get the left one? I mostly race gt3 so I'd like to have both mirrors and hesitating between UW and triples
@@MattMaloneTV I have the same monitor coming with a 4090 gpu in my pc would you mind sharing your Iracing graphic settings thanks love your content.
Can you capture 4k window in obs ? Or must capture the complete 8k ?
My OBS canvas is 1080p. So I resize the game capture to match the height then center it.
Samantha walked in the room, looked at Matt and said "oh my god, its huge!"
I bought the monitor, but where did you get the mount for the 80/20??
How did you mount it now ?
is there a noticable difference between 120hz and 240hz? i plan to play with RT and DLSS because i like the technology behind it. So 120hz is fine for me (and the 4090 required i guess?) i am just worried that i might get a worse experience working with half the framerate. my objective is to reduce eye strain and have a great working experience. mostly reading and writing code and related stuff all day. i am currious what you guys think, any experience?
From 120 to 144 there’s a little bit of noticeable difference but from I’d say, 144 and up there really isn’t any noticeable difference to your eye. I jumped on the bandwagon really early several years ago and bought a 240 Hz monitor for FPS gaming and the difference between 120 and 240 was Not really noticeable
@@Zairn12345 I couldn’t confirm this. On my 27" Oled I can clearly see the difference between around 140Hz and 200Hz, it’s pretty obvious. Not sure if related to active G-Sync or the Oled panel itself. I’m also considering the 57" Samsung but not being able to run more than 120Hz seems like a big downside. Since there is no RTX5090 or any alike down the road it might be better to wait another year or so…
That thing is huge!
cool🔥, how we can get that monitor mount adapter for profile?
Do you not miss the extra width of a triple screen setup for racing? From the videos, the 49” version didn’t seem like it gave sufficient vertical height for sim racing, the 57” looks like it might have addressed this though.
I had trips years ago 24" I do not miss them. I really like the ultrawides. 49" was nice but the 57" is miles better. It's not that much bigger but it is noticeably taller which helps a lot. Love it. But the debate will always continue over single ultrwides and trips. But fov isn't the only thing to consider
@@MattMaloneTV I think I'm largely in agreement with you. I find my 24" 16:10's not quite tall enough. I measured up & compared to the 49" sammy ultra wide & it gives little advantage in vertical height vs 3x 24" 16:10's & would not be as wide (~1200mm vs ~1550mm). The new 57" is more favourable - it would give a closer width to my 3x24" 16:10's (~1394 vs ~1550mm) & it would have a little more vertical height (~392mm vs ~323mm), so an extra 69mm of vertical height. The downside is driving the resolution of the 57" - my aging 1080Ti can cope with 3x1080P screens, I doubt it will cope with the 57"s resolution...fine, so you'd need to factor in a new GPU, but nothing currently available really does the 57" justice. the nVidia 40 series all seem to use displayport 1.4, where as the AMD use Displayport 2.1, but otheriwse seem less powerful to drive such a monitor than the best of the nVidea cards, & with the cost of the high end GPU's, I'm not sure I'd want to buy one right now that wasn't able to fully drive the monitor immediately.....its like buying a ferrari & being stuck driving it in the new 20mph zones in the UK that are stringing up all over the place!
What do you need vertical fov for? To look at the skies while you’re racing?
@@adf286 I only have triple 24" 1080P at the moment. I find that if I adjust my in game 'drivers seat' to get what feels to me to be okay, then I typically only see the top half of the rev counter. I'd like to see more of the instrument panel. Also, on some circuits where it is not on a flat terrain, its helpful to see more of the 'sky' because when you are going down hill, it allows you to see more of what the road is doing up ahead going up hill....for example Eau Rouge at Spa. If I set my screen so I can see the instrument panel okay & less sky, then on a section of track like Eau Rouge, I'd have a limited view of the road ahead when I was heading down into Eau Rouge. I also find I don't want to lower my 'drivers seat' view too much because then the wheel & instrument panel obstructs my view of the road. I wouldn't have such an issue with FoV with monitors that have greater vertical space I think. I could be wrong though, but I feel its a function of having relatively small screens
@@adf286I am using triple 32, had 27 before. The vertical gain is very very nice for me - I installed my VRS wheelbase behind the middle screen and have a longer adapter to my wheel, so I use the ingame dash with my wheel in a realistic position to the dash now. This is looking ultra realistic and just feels right. You can’t do this with 27 because of missing vertical high.
How tall is it on the stand at the minimum height?
I get mine tomorrow 😁👍
Classic Malone video, good job!
Think only the AMD Video cards can utilize the 240hz atm. Nvidia i think is limited to 120hz at high resolutions because of the limitations of their current GPU's.
@@kamxam1384well that sucks 😂
I LOVE the idea of that size, but I do wish that they would release a 1440p version. Unless you have a graphics card that matches the price of this monitor, I'm afraid that it's a lot of pixels to push. All said though, the price doesn't seem too outrageous, considering what the 49" ultrawides go for, especially with that preorder discount they are offering for anyone willing to bite.
At 7680x2160 there really isn't a GPU out that can even really handle that resolution. I mean that's dual 4k, even my 4090 would struggle to even get 50-60 fps in a lot of modern titles.
You can run it at 2k resolution if you want you don't have to do 4k unless this is like any other monitor I have seen?
Sub native resolutions look like junk though, blurry mess@@Circletakesthejake
1440p is already terrible on 49” monitors (and suboptimal at 34”). Also anyone getting a 57” will want to use it for productivity where such a bad PPI will be even less acceptable. It’s probably better to accept this will have to wait until we have the RTX 5090.
1440p on the 49" is exactly the same as 1440p on the 34" monitors.....@@magicmulder
Triples or big screen?
Just ordered mine!!
For a sec I thought this was a Butter sponsorship video, the display so smooth 😉😉 and seamless. For sure will be the next monitor standard in a couple of years... joining the bandwagon.
I hope they paid you well for this commercial you just made me watch
Dear Samsung: you can tell by Matt's voice he's taking this seriously
Holy cow I hope my mom lets me buy this
Ok hear me out, this with dual inputs plus a 32” G8 for a triple screen setup 😮
Dear Matt! What a screen mate!! I'm in the market to buy one. Would you share with us with vesa adaptor do you use with this huge screen? Many thanks in advance!!
Hi Matt, fantastic vid. You convinced me to get this monitor! Do you think my i9 10900K with a RTX 4080 and 64Gb ram is enough for this monitor in iRacing? I already have the 49"1440p version.
I have the same CPU but an RTX 3080 can i run ist with this Monitor?
im sure it will work but check with samsung to make sure?
Love it!
But 27UDS in freight for your cool cap...
Me too! 😊
5:42 - make sure you set it to 240hz on the monitor settings and on Windows :) my G9 49" required an update to run it @ 240hz
I think 7680x2160@240 requires DP 2.1
He also needs to use DP port and not HDMI
I can't wait to buy someone's used 49inch when they buy this!
_"This video was brought to you by Raid Shadow Legends!"_
Oh my god. The crashes Malone is going to put us through are going to be MASSIVE.
Looks good, I still use VR for my iRacing but I have a 49" G9 on my desk and it's great for normal work! I don't think my GPU would drive this bad boy though! :)
What sim rig do you use?
4play sim racing
probably better than my 13" b&w. I will have to save up.
Matt, do you have a video on your PC using to power the 57?
no, i have a 4090 GPU
how much more vertical screen do we get on this please compared top the g9 49 inch
4inches
Straight answer. thank you
Matt, what kind of mount are you using for this monitor? Asking for a friend.
Just some aluminum 80/20 hardware I got a long time ago when I got my 4play racing rig. To be honest, I don't know where you can buy it
What's the fov you are getting? Most important stuff.
16.5 Mpix - that's going to need one HUMUNGOUS GPU.
Hello, I have the same screen, can i have the graphics settings for iracing
Straight answer. Thank you
triples or vr can see more of sides on car without pushing driver view so far back from wheel. Beautiful resolution though.
You've come a long way since the 24" 1080p screens!! This looks awesome. Also, Canadians only get 400 loonies instead of the 500 greenbacks, yikes...
@Conrad709 lucky us Aussies get nothing😪
Returned my second 57 :/ dead pixels on booth, hope the 3rd one does not have, so bad for such expensive screen...
Any change 3090 will manage this beast in iRacing?
Probably at a lower resolution. 8K would be choppy, but 4K would do decent i'd imagine.
What graphic card are you using to display it? Regards.
4090
Great! A perfect monitor to play Mario Kart now!
I love mine. Got it on sale for $1800 USD
man you should fix your FOV! I don't know why 99% of simers keep the wheel in game on. You should aim for a perspective where your physical wheel is in the same place as the virtual one. Otherwise you loose a ton of impression of speed and hitting apex is more difficult.
But then everybody would have noticed that this monitor isnt the best for simracing because u still cant see shit compared to tripples
Triples have always been best for me but nice monitor.
Hi Matt, I purchased the Samsung 57" Odyssey Neo G9. Can you share screenshots of your graphics and monitor settings in iRacing? @MattMaloneTV
i love my 49".... now im drooling..... welp....there goes some more money
What would you guys recommend for people though? Triple screen? VR? Or a single ultra wide. This is the question I’ve been looking for to finish my setup! Thanks :)
really depends on what you're looking for. VR for highest immersion, triples for best non-VR vision but requires more tinkering, single ultrawide for convenience/simplicity and usefulness outside racing
Thanks man! I’ve got a vr headset but it’s really choppy due to my low end pc, planning on upgrading soon so maybe it’ll be better!
@@treycleveland3986worth noting that your average gpu wont power this screen either so if you are considering replacing vr with this screen you will be disappointed until you upgrade your gpu as well.
Just picked up this behemoth! Freaking awesomeness. Unfortunately I can’t get the res 7680x2160 to match 240hz. Keeps caping at 120hz. And would like to get another monitor connected. Guess I have upgrade my graphics card
Only a couple graphics cards from AMD support the DP 2.1 which gives you the full 240hz refresh
@@MattMaloneTV makes sense. Nvidia hasn’t gotten that far yet. Either way, love the size of this much easier than triples.
@@MattMaloneTV when type of fov are you getting. Sitting 24 inches from the screen I’m getting 130 fov. Just curious what setting you used
Hey Matt, just curious what monitor settings your using and if you’re using the curvature radius
If you're not aware, 4090 does NOT support the full resolution of this monitor at 240hz due to the lack of a DP2.1 port.
True. With hdmi I get full resolution at 120hz
It does support it with hdmi 2.1 though with display stream compression.
@@drunkhusband6257 unfortunately no, it doesn't. Source: I bought it lol. No way to get it to do 4k 240hz currently. It's an awesome monitor though, 240hz at 2x2k res looks AMAZING.
Hmmm well that's kinda garbage. Oh well it's not like you can get 120fps in much at 7680x2160. I wish they would have made this monitor 5120x1440 instead, dual 4k is just too much to run.@@jetstream01
They need to do the same but with OLED technology!
True but that would nearly double the price again.
Discount is two of my monitors (almost lol)
My missus said thats too many inches to have in the house sadly 😢
How great the monitor is, it will be difficult to replace my 3 x 32 samsung g7, because I will miss the right side of the car. They have to make some software so you could spli this monitor in 3 screens or something.
What GPU are you running with this rig man?
4090
Once you say $500 discount I went yup out of my budget for sim racing. Looks nice though.
Not a discount but a Samsung credit so you’re still paying full price.
Probably a stupid question but would a ps5 run on this with gt7? Or a no go, my GPU on PC wouldn't it's old
i don't know
The $500 is a credit to be used at Samsungs store, better than nothing!
I guess it's a bit like a the bottom half of a high refresh rate 60" 8K?
I just got a 4070 Super GPU.. will it run this display well?
yeah probly
Yep I upgraded from a g7. Couldn't be happier me old fruit 😋
Will Matt ever venture into the rest of the house again or will this become his mistress?
The Neg g9 86 will be the one to get, triple 4k in one screen, paired with a 6090 rtx at 16k at 120 hz across the panel with 0.03 response time. Probably looking at 2028 for that however!
I have a previous 49" model and now i feel i need more. Size doesn't matter, they say. Bullshi@%
Is this worth with an Xbox Series X?
3 monitors still does a better job of seeing left and right on sim racing though. I'd rather spend less on 3 27 or 32 inch at 1080 or 1440 so I can see what's happening on the left and right sides by simply turning my head. That's so much more important.
WAIT, doesn't this thing do 7680x2160 almost similar to triple 2560x1440 screens ? Or is a single 7680x2160 somehow not seeing the same FOV ? Seems like it should even be better then triple 2560x1440 screens. 1080 triples is only 5760x1080. How is this better then 7680x2160 ? Seems like you should see left and right same or better.
@@stevecunningham3475 you need to count the dimensions of 3 monitors vs. one. you talking about pixels that makes no difference in how much you can see. 3x27 4k will be 11520x2160 so 3x27 1080p can get you still more to see around you.
@@Matiz69 I had 3 32's and set them undividually at 1920x1080. And then 2560x1440. This provides no more or less FOV at either setting when spanned from what i could tell only height dimension changed as expected. But pixels is squeezed into the same dimention resolution whixh is why it is more clear but 57inch is surely smaller then 27x3 for sure. But 57 should have exactly the same view asaik. I thought it should be like 3 19inch monitors at 2560 or something. ??? Won't it do that without bezel same as 3 27@2560 ?
This or triple moniter for sim racing'?
personal preference and depends on your hardware
Holy Cow!, There I was putting money aside to get the 49" and then you drop this on me! Now I need to readjust my plans, new GPU then this! It's beautiful!!
Honestly I’d wait for the 5090 in the future
Good luck running 7680x2160 at any kind of decent framerates. I have a 13900k and a 4090 and I still would be getting junk framerate in a lot of modern titles.
If you just game and don't stream etc. Go top spec AMD. It's better for gaming. Intel will be your bottleneck.
lol at 7680x2160 it's not gonna matter how fast the cpu is. It's already mostly gpu bound at 4k as it is, with dual 4k there would be absolutely no bottleneck even with older cpus.@@boosivemotorsportofficial
Still no second side mirror…
Sadly, these super ultrawides still miss a TON of fov compared to triples. its easier to run, but you don't need 4k at all. 2k is absolutely more than enough.
All they need to do is make an oled version
Oh man 4k is the best my pc get 60fps easy with max settings in pretty much any game bare minimum definitely glad i invested in a good gpu