Dr Jordan B Peterson | *full-length* 2014 interview
*Religion, Myth, Science, Truth* | an evening with Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
This video was filmed prior to JBP's 2016 statements on gender, and neither condones, nor addresses, his post-2016 work.
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Table of Contents:
0:00 INTRO: PETERSON'S JOURNEY
9:45 RELIGION: CROWD-CONTROL, NAIVE SCIENCE, OR NEITHER?
10:08 "They're straw man arguments"
11:45 Multiple motivational systems, different levels of thinking
13:32 Fundamental presuppositions
14:13 Dawkins vs. Christianity: like a "smart 13 year old boy"
14:36 INTERMISSION: PETERSON ADDRESSES HIS DOG
14:44 SCIENTISTS MISREADING RELIGION
15:52 Different systems of thought, different purposes
16:00 More than one basic assumption is possible
17:13 ENTER: DOMINANCE HIERARCHIES
17:19 What's real is what's persistent across time
17:33 Dominance hierarchies and lobsters
17:58 We're evolutionarily adapted to hierarchies
18:14 HIERARCHIES, RELIGIOUS THINKING, AND SUBJECTIVITY
18:42 "Being" as not reducible to material reality
19:12 The road to nihilism and authoritarianism
19:57 DETERMINING THE TRUTH OF A THEORY
20:07 Newton or Darwin? Choose one. You can't have both.
20:20 Nitzche's "Truth serves life" is a Darwinian idea
20:38 No idea if our knoweldge will help us survive over deep time
20:50 Answer to: "But look what we've built with it"
21:20 Crossing Ebola and Smallpox: some science is clearly insane
22:30 Check your assumptions about reality
23:45 Darwinism: truth is what enables survival within chaos, period.
25:03 Dawkins is a Newtonian not a Darwinian
26:09 Reductionism leaves things out. This has consequences.
27:27 The pragmatic problem: truth for what?
28:09 DEEP DARWINISM & RELIGION
28:15 Religion as evolved knowledge about action
29:40 American Pragmatist philosophers: the true Darwinians
30:17 Godel, the stock market and reality
31:02 TRUTH AS ACTION
31:44 Truth from the bottom up: lobsters, wolves, humans
34:27 Ethics: evolved patterns in dominance hierarchies
39:23 Dogs, chimps and humans: hierarchy navigators
44:45 From dominance hierarchies to archetypes: ancient Egypt
52:36 The soul
55:50 Jung on Christianity, truth and speech
59:07 Truth versus the lie
1:00:52 THE INTELLECT
1:00:52 The totalitarian intellect
1:02:43 Have you made thinking your God?
1:03:38 Attention trumps thinking
1:04:11 EVOLUTIONARY ROOTS OF WESTERN RELIGION
1:04:33 Christ as a metahero
1:04:43 The deep roots of myth
1:07:00 Chaos monsters
1:08:55 Myth as behavioural truth
1:09:37 "Darwin trumps Newton"
1:10:02 "Dawkins is a rationalist...not a darwinian"
1:10:07 Darwinian time, Darwinian truth
1:13:57 Mesopotamian myth as successful behaviour blueprint
1:17:36 FROM NATURE TO HERO MYTHOLOGY
1:19:33 Religious stories model being as a field for action
1:21:13 Our religious task
1:21:47 Religion as hero mythology
1:22:30 "You...don't know that you know the story."
1:23:58 PIAGET AND PRE-RATIONAL MORALITY
1:25:16 We learn to act before we learn the rules
1:26:18 Moses the Judge: observer of emergent moral patterns
1:27:54 "Opiate of the masses" as naive industrial era thinking
1:28:43 METAPHORICAL THOUGHT
1:29:11 Hyperactive agency detection module: it goes deeper
1:31:00 The brain as archetype detection organ
1:32:08 Women are nature
1:33:48 Metaphor, myth and science
1:36:00 SCIENCE AND MORAL TRUTH
1:37:52 Are all scientists devoted to the truth?
1:39:44 How do we judge if science is ethical?
1:42:57 Evil as archetypically real
1:44:06 The reality of good and evil
1:45:09 Science and mythology: which is embedded in which?
1:48:17 EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY AND DEEP TIME
1:49:13 RELIGIOUS METAPHYSICS: OPTIONAL?
1:49:20 Is God an old man with a beard in the sky?
1:51:12 Hurricane Katrina, corruption and poverty
1:52:12 The significance of the bible
1:53:43 The genius of the sacrifice
1:55:50 INTERLUDE: TRIANGULATING MEANING
1:58:02 END OF RELIGION?
1:58:02 On new atheists' claims of a secular rational future
1:58:29 On new age spirituality
1:58:49 New atheist rationalist optimism so absurd it must be motivated
1:59:18 REDUCING RELIGION VS. EXPANDING EVOLUTION
1:59:40 "[The Jungian alternative]...is terrifying [for people]"
1:59:57 "[Jung's work]...puts enlightenment thinkers to shame"
2:00:17 "Which ideas have you? ... We're like playthings of the gods"
2:01:09 JUNG: STUDYING INFORMATION, NOT MATTER
2:02:23 "If you study religion properly, it'll demolish your personality"
2:08:16 METAPHOR VS REALITY: NOT OBVIOUS
2:10:11 Ancients: phenomenologists, not scientists
2:12:24 Religion as spatial
2:13:24 HUMANS: EFFICIENT COMPLEXITY MANAGERS
2:13:48 Reality in terms of resolution
2:15:52 There's lots worse than death
2:16:46 On Becker's "The Denial of Death": smart but mistaken
2:19:40 Death's not the problem, it's complexity
2:21:06 THE MULTICULTURAL DIMENSION
2:27:35 FROM THEORY TO ACTION
2:28:40 Fixing what bugs you
2:29:30 Overcoming the lie
2:31:54 Peterson's experience with truth
2:34:45 The most powerful thing we can do
Ever watch a 2 and a half hour interview and wished it was longer?
Its a cue for you to look up the details for the rest of your life.
Yes, the Joe Rogan one he did recently, even moreso. I've listened to that one 3 or 4 times. I'll give this one another go when i've had lots of sleep. Philosophy is tough sledding for me. Peterson is the only one who doesn't make it boring as paint drying. But i have the deep religious background as well as lifelong interest in psychology to keep me anchored.
*Philosophy is tough sledding for me.* Mate, it's like that for _everyone_, even the people who make it look easy. *Peterson is the only one who doesn't make it boring as paint drying.* Sam Harris does that for me as well on his podcast, though I may be more interested because I'm an atheist, and he often presents how spirituality (for lack of a better term) can be pursued without the metaphysics, which is a relatively new idea (sorta, depending on how you look at history).
If you enjoy listening to philosophy Stefan Molyneux is another incredible voice to listen to. Stefan has the largest show on philosophy in the world and is possibly the best example of someone who elicits philosophical thought in an effective yet entertaining way.
J Puleo Stefan Molyneux is a fraud! The only original thing he ever created was UPB which is nonsense that he doesn't even bother trying to defend anymore. Every good idea he has he ripped off from some other philosopher (mostly Rothbard) and pawned it off as his own. He is a liar and an unstable megalomaniac who thinks he is the most important philosopher of all the past 5 thousand years. He just abandoned Anarcho Capitalism for Trump-ism... I guess the grass was greener. As an Ancap I'm pretty ecstatic that an embarrassing fool no longer is associated with my political position.
I just discovered this man like a week ago. I'm convinced he is the true successor to the likes of Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, Jung, and Campbell, along with being one of the most important geniuses among the living. I just ordered his book "maps of meaning". Can't wait to read it! More people need to know about this man!
William Koscielniak
William Koscielniak very interesting but don't fall under the spell of someone who is erudite. Give it more time to consider his positions and his ideas, just because someone sounds convincing doesn't make them a genius.
+mwnciboo Brilliant man who spend his career builder exploring the meaning of singularity.
Marion Deleon i would agree but the word Genius gets bandied about far too much by people who don't understand the subject who are bamboozled into awe. His explainations and suppositions often are predicated on his own beliefs the whole "Snake piece" and the stories of early man was conjecture and pseudo-science e.g Belief without firm evidence , based on conviction.
I agree! His views offer a very refreshing alternative to the nihilistic or morally self-aggrandizing doublespeak I hear from many so called deep thinkers today. I also hope/suspect listening and thinking about these ideas may one day allow someone to pull others out of the same philosophical swamp I only recently realized I was standing in!
It hurts, therefore I am
LOL
Man this guy is brilliant.
Never saw this interview before! It’s nice to hear “Jordan Peterson the professor” and not “Jordan Peterson the political/anti-woke commentator”
Agreed I lobe Jordan's philosophy and psychology even though I disagree with his politics.
This is truly the peak of Peterson's philosophical veiws. He is so sharp here and doesnt leave questions hanging like nowadays
I think his illess really took a toll on him. He's still great but it seems as though his ideas are sort of rehashed now rather than new insight.
While listening to this a memory bubbled up which reminded me how wise children can be, and which confirms what Petey is saying about one essential difference humans have from other primates is that we can invent new dominance hierarchies: "That's what creativity is." When my son was about 8, and being a single Dad, I took him to a holiday park where there'd be lots of other kids. He used to run around the adventure playground having a fine time. One morning he noticed I was sat on my own reading the paper and he trotted over and asked "Haven't you got any friends?" I said "Well no, not here." So he said in all his genius, "Oh, it's easy, Dad. All you have to do is make up a game, teach people how to play it and then you'll have some friends." He'd consciously accessed his hard-wired instinct for surviving in a hierarchy. So then the little fecker ran back to the group, whispered something to them, came back to me and said "Right, you're the monster and you have to get us!" and ran off. As soon as I stood up all the kids started screaming and ran off into the undergrowth or climbed up into tree-houses. How archetypal it that!
Richard Elliott Funny story.
i love that story ,if that story was a movie it would win an oscar
+Richard Elliott One other thing that you're eluding to, is that kids, cross culturally, that are isolated from one another seem to make up the same games. "Monster. You're it and you have to catch me and I am afraid of you touching me", that's a game virtually every kid will conjur up, because it's embedded into them, an archetype dramatized. PS: Not a good look, a grown man in a Park, chasing kids. :D
The story is funny and real, I laughed so much. It shows that you are bringing your son up in the perfect environment for him, respect.
Wow, your kid very smart
man I love this guy.
I know, same. He actually looks a lot like my father. It is scary =s
Would he be the archetypal father?
woden1809 I think he is. He wants to toughen you up. I also think this is a father's role. This is what my dad has told me too. But his face looks like my dad's face as well. Like, fuck mate
Lol you racist always think you have so much influence and the rest of the world pictures a bunch of lunatics dressed in tank tops who reside in the woods drinking beer. We nod our heads and smile as you work yourself into frenzies about how "you are the superior race." As you walk away and turn your back to us we say to each other "poor thing, god bless him." We try to avoid you on the streets because we don't know if lunacy and a low IQ is catching, but we aren't taking any chances.
@@hydraelectricblue Whhhhat
When I first found this guy, I thought he was just your regular college professor but with enough common sense to see through the PC bullshit. But I never expected to find him so interesting. Now I want to read everything and everyone he mentions.
@Kosumo how did you come across Dr. Peterson?
This man has changed my life so deeply that it is totally beyond my ability to articulate. It’s not an exaggeration to say that he has saved my life. From the bottom of my heart, thank you Dr. Peterson!
I didn't know how to articulate how I felt but I think you come very, very close to this feeling and you say it well!
I just discovered him last week, how he changed your life? happy that it turned good for you :)
This is the Dr. Peterson i miss
Same. I am much better working with people than ever before. When you understand human personality traits, it really helps you figure out what people want. Especially when your job is to talk to people for a living and inspire them
Me too! He was min-expanding, non-divisive and exploratory!!! When the world has not inflated him yet. I always come back to him around this time of his life, because there is just no better thinker/articulater around!
This is the best distillation of Peterson's overall worldview that I've found. Thanks for evoking it from him, and capturing it for the rest of us to see
Definitely the best distillation I have seen throughout all of his lectures and interviews! Thanks!
I admire how he can hold an argument with himself for 20 minutes and when he's done he looks like a combination of someone who has just came and a paranoid schizophrenic. A true philosopher. I wish my professor was him, not an elderly gay man who spent 6 weeks explaining why God wasn't real and made us read the colour purple.
you have articulated my already existing abstract thoughts in your words in a beautiful way. I also enjoy it tremendously when he is arguing with himself.
I spat on myself while laughing out loud reading your comment.
Best commentary on JP I've come across. My first read had me picturing a group of students reading the color purple the way they might try to read the color red. I like my version a bit better. ;)
Haha!!..excellent comment!!!."the test of a first rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time".Scott Fitzgerald...most of us end up with cognitive dissonance and fall into one camp or the other. not this man!!..I think he is a secret Jedi zen master sent to save humanity from the clutches of soulless Marxist professors...:-)
Tyrone Slothrup And this lunatic uploaded his damn lectures to his channel. I'm going back to university on his channel. It's absolutely amazing. When I saw this one I went "YES! Two and a half hours! Oh man this is gonna be awesome."
I can never seem to get enough of Dr. Peterson. I started sometime in late 2012 with his Maps of Meaning and never looked back.
I feel the same.
Damn you really got in early!
@alexander petrenko how did you come across Dr. Peterson?
@@mrthedarkknight3 he sold edibles across the street from where I live
You should consider looking back
he is a global treasure - even if you disagree with him
Disagree with him? can anyone claim to follow what he says? sounds like esoteric woo to me.
waksibra if you're predisposed to dismiss religious or mythological truth then I agree that it could be just so much woo. However, he's a trained psychologist, former Harvard lecturer, and a tenured professor with oversubscribed courses and hard nosed corporate clients seeking his services. Watch some of his online lectures. (You know you left the door open for me to make a typically dumb internet putdown about your intellect but Professor Peterson's videos ain't the place 😆)
Feral try Carl Jung, Friedrich Neitzche, Alexander Solzynitsin.
Blue Jacky name 1 original thinker that wasn't inspired by someone else and didn't depend on anyone else's research to study
Blue Jacky If you even understood half of what he was saying, you wouldn't be using the term "original thinker" as a tool to dismiss his ideas.
Holy shit, a Canadian figured it out.
Team Canada.
Jeff Schoolmaster LOL That should piss of the Americans :)
good one!
He is my favorite Canadien , but he doesn’t come across like the know it all canadiens I saw every winter while they were ( being Canadian .......in south Florida) lol
Captain America! Wrapped in a red oak leaf flag! Oh, the beauty Canada exports.
I believe this is possibly the best material on JP available online. Not that the lectures and newer interviews are not worth listening to, but there is something about this interview that seems to me at least to be unadulterated by his more reactionary/ideological thoughts. There is value in both to be sure, but you get a Jordan Peterson here that is truly in his element as a humble meta-thinker. It also helps that the interviewer was great and could actually follow along with the conversation, which is more than I can say about myself at certain points.
14:50 This is why I often scrap my own KZhead comments before submitting them... I write them, then re-read them, then realise counter arguments and solutions in a cycle until I find that I don't have a concrete position. :/ It dawns upon me that what I initially wrote was what I wished to be true, rather than what after careful thought I honestly believed to actually be true.
I too find myself thinking for the deepest rationalist comment before submitting to viewing. Abraham Lincoln had similar struggles before addressing his generals but made great historical narrative in context...it served its function.
Ostsol me too! If only more people did it as well.
I just deleted my comment to this.
Congrats, you have a brain that appears to be functional! Seriously though, Ben Franklin was bang-on when he said confidence begets ignorance more often than it begets intelligence.
***** Confidenception.
I firmly believe that his brain uses his body as means of transportation.
This is the way it should be. The tragedy is that we can't say that about most of humanity.
Yep! That is what bodies should be!
:D
@@darthstigater6642 get off your high horse. you're no more objective than anyone else.
the brain and the body are the same thing.
I've never been this captivated to listen to a man speak about subjects an topics that could be stereotyped as "boring" and "tedious". But somehow, Dr Peterson is so genuinely passionate and knowledgeable about what he talks about that I can listen to his interviews and lectures for hours even if I struggle to grasp or retain a lot of it. I've listen to comedian's podcasts that I'm a fan of for hours, but these lectures are on a whole different level of pleasant entertainment because at the end of them, even if I don't retain most of it, I know it wasn't a waste of time.
How could anyone possibly listen to this guy and conclude that he's hateful in any way? SJW's are pure poison.
FANTASICK They really are poison. I heard Peterson explain somewhere in another interview that what's at the core of the SJW mentality is revenge. These people really are acting out their hatred for existence itself through passive aggression.
FANTASICK Yes. They are. Look up yuri bezmonov useful idiots. They didn't come out of nowhere. They were raised. He said this back in 1984,-kgb defector. That'll blow your mind when you see the Marxist plan.
John G. Boy you were busy giving weak arguments in this comment section. Is Peterson's analysis of communism unfounded too? Or how about his thoughts on free speech? Did you read a Dawkins book and feel super duper smart or something?
FANTASICK actually, social INjustice warriors are poison.
It's like he said in the Kathy Newman interview. "They don't actually listen."
JP has primed my brain with the prerequisite knowledge required to read and digest books that, despite my interest, I just could not fully absorb a few years ago. Thanks JP 🙏
I don't think I ever heard a more valuable interview in my life. Going to rewatch it with a notebook for sure.
Do you eat rocks for breakfast?
Wow, really great stuff. Very rare to find such an intellectually honest proponent of philosophy.
He deals with many hypotheticals.
My 3 year old niece is more articulate than this blowhard
I'm not a "clever" or "educated" man, so it was great to hear him say he didn't understand a book and had to read it three times before he started to get his head around the concept of it.....
Too many people commenting who obviously cannot comprehend his valid argument. He has considered this for 40 years. Read all the scientific, neuroscience, social, mythological, political, philosophical, economic, anthropologic, religious literature. All hail the logos embodied and articulated. Poppa prof peterson the prophet. The great father, orderer of chaos, cleaner of rooms. Teller of truths. Articulator of the archetypes.
I am an atheist but I think theology might be a really interesting subject to study, in a similar way to me as mythology might be really interesting to study. Jordan Peterson goes over my head but I really enjoy his passion, enthusiasm, dedication, and love of his studies that he expresses so well ( although as I said, it goes over my head, but I presume from comments and my general belief that his studies are expressed so well ).
I love it! Go clean your emotional room one little problem at a time! Reminds me of the 12 Steps.
This is really one of the best discussions of epistemology I have ever heard. It is interesting how, from what I can see, JP runs through a perpetual cycle of using Darwinian and Newtonian thinking to make his points. Everyone does it, but he is one of the few people with the humility to acknowledge this and admit we may know jack shit.
Thank you for your kind words. Please share and stay tuned for more content. As mentioned under my personal avatar, we hope to do another interview in the spring.
His definition of Truth as Utility, considering that we are Motals, is a fantastically humble concept. Absolute Truth my ass!
@@bblackburn1823 Utility doesn't exist without a goal which requires an ideal which requires absolute truth to be justified as aiming for. Thanks for playing though.
Well, that was.... wow. At the end, when he talks about seeing the "light come on" in his students, that happened with me. Just in the short time of listening/watching this, I've begun to rethink the way I see atheism and religion (I've been an atheist-agnostic for many years now). I remember reading Dawkins and being excited for new information but walking away feeling very uninspired. The question "why do I need to feel inspired" has been gnawing at me ever since. I think it may be that I found some things within religion that resonated with me. Still need more thought on this though.
John G. I've written better stories about my experiences with your mum.
Immensly valueable --> 2:31:54 This whole interview is gold, though.
Thank you, we're glad you think so.
hydraelectricblue what? I didn't notice any racist comments. Racism is definitely stupid, and so are SJWS because they are implicitly racist ie they believe that skin color is important and a cause for concern. Skin color is not a causal factor in behavior and life outcomes, there is only a correlation.
I think this is the most profound JP interview/conversation I've seen. It shows how well-read and comprehensive his thinking is, and it helps me to close some of the gaps in my own thinking. It's great that the interviewer can keep up and help the conversation flow the way it should.
It's so great to have another lengthy video where we can listen in depth to Dr Jordan Peterson! Thanks for posting!
Our pleasure, glad you find it interesting.
This is a better synthesis than the TED talk as far of time constraints go :) So nice to have his classes here in youtube as well to go to the depths of all this genius.
JBP you are the only one that made me listen to the part of me that wants to change my life for good. I'm 32 years old, all my life I have been attracted to the hyper rational, religion bashing atheistic, arrogant left leaning world view. I had a traumatic life, raised by a neurotic single mother after my father was murdered few meters from my home. I always saw myself as impossible to fix, as a deterministic result of a chain of bad events. I have made bad decisions that were self destructing, and I knew it and did it anyway, and I justified it by saying to myself that those decisions were a deterministic result of my unfixable character. The way you harmonize theology, philosophy, evolutionary psychology and self help is magical to me. I now see the value in religion and tradition, I'm less cynical, more respectful to people, more open to learning from people I always saw as inferior to me. Most importantly I think I can be a good father to my daughter and stop hating and fighting with my wife. I want to thank you, I thought I know everything and no one has anything to teach me, but I was really really blind. Now instead of always loosing to the part of me that wants to be lazy, and blame others, and escape from responsibility, the good part wins sometimes, and you feel it when it wins and that's how you know which way is up. It is still a daily struggle for me, but when I'm aiming down I listen to you and you orient me up again. Thank you for believing in the part of me, that I didn't even knew existed, without you even knowing me personalty.
Wow, what an absolutely amazing interview. Thank you for sharing.
Our pleasure.
I am an atheist, but I still admire Jordan Peterson.
Dash Antony Same here
***** He's a Christian.
We might need a definition of "Christian" here.
Your system of belief shouldn't determine who can and can't receive your respect. I just hope other Atheists have the courage to come forward with such moral principles like you :)
Kon Berner The problem is, it's hard to believe that there's a perfect God who would make his message so ambiguous and in need of re-interpretation.
Thank you Dr. Peterson for putting this on KZhead.
I can't speak for Dr Peterson, but as the interviewer/videographer, you're certainly very welcome. I hope you find it insightful.
Oh! O.K. Yes the interview is very insightful and for me dense. I will watch it a few more times. Thanks so much!
This interview is pure gold. How anyone in their right mind can dislike it is beyond me.
Thanks sunnydae9! Check out the 2017 one as well, you may enjoy. FYI, we just filmed a new one, focused more specifically on his experience reading and presenting the Bible. My Patreon supporters get early access to the audio and/or video (depending on level of support), so if you’re curious, please sign up! www.patreon.com/transliminal
I appreciate the fact that Jordan Peterson gets Carl Jung AND religion. On both points, Richard Dawkins (et al) looks foolish and irrelevant. It's not an accident that Peterson starts this long 'interview' by referencing Jung. Some believe that there is no one like Jung today, even though he died in 1961. Might Peterson be in the running? I think so. This talk, and Maps of Meaning, does a good job discussing the ineffable - *'being'* and *'existence'*. On a specific point, I agree with him that Jung's message is terrifying. I think the reason is as follows: Many of us, perhaps all of us, from time to time, have moments when we are conscious of _being lived_. Let me say it some other ways: I am _Being_ lived. Or - I am Being _lived_. Or, I _am_. These experiences are unfiltered, and unmediated by language/culture, and are definitely rare, but they provide a powerful, unforgettable experience of transcendence when they do happen. Another way to say all this might be 'we don't have the control of our lives that we might imagine'. There are other, larger, archaic, eternal, ??, forces at work - in and through us - that we hardly understand, merely because *_we are / in_* this creative destructive dynamic grip we call life. Where are the intellectuals discussing good and evil today? The fact that Peterson takes Jung / Religion / Myth / Metaphor so seriously makes him relevant and worth listening to!
Very well said
Hear, hear. I'm glad that came through in the interview.
blue jacky hey hope youre enjoying your ivory tower! Hows the view up there? morons eh? cant live with em cant live without em though eh?
John G. Have you never noticed women often choose partners who are similar to their fathers? Or seen jealousy from a male toddler when their dad kisses their mom? Pretty weak to just dismiss an idea like that. I'm not even a big fan of those two but it's retarded to find one idea from someone you don't like or that is incorrect and dismiss all their other ideas. For instance I don't find much quality content in the idea of manifest dreams or the idea that people are born bi and socialized into their adult sexuality, but Freud still has some ideas with merit. Oh, and good argument, bro. Super insightful, great points made. I'm convinced
John G.: You obviously haven't read Jung.
I love the way he uses a cross discipline approach.
Rick Holden philology
@@MagnumOpusYTwhat’s that
"The first guy who figured out how to drop a stick on a snake... he was VERY popular"
great interview and discussion. Sums up many of the points from Dr. Peterson's lectures. Thank you for posting and I look forward to more!
Our pleasure. Glad you enjoyed. You may be interested in the new series we're working on: www.newscienceofreligion.com ... It'll be a converted into a MOOC on edX.org in Jan 2017.
Wonderful and the interviewer was great too. You got the BEST from Jordan Peterson. Thank you - what a delight.
been watching Dr Jordan for a long time now and I just have to say...you have saved me man. A huge part of my journey. Continue to be..
+Michael Randell - xitzprofessor obviously not the original jordanpeterson channel but if you ever read these...
I am visiting him after a 6 month hiatus. He still never misses to amaze
I’m going to see him in Providence R.I. next month. I can’t wait to give him the respect of a standing ovation. Also bought his book. God is good. And waking him up and now he shares his message with all. Thank you Mr Peterson.. ❤
This is the perfect primer for JP's mighty philosophy. I'm a fan of one year and have changed a lot of my thinking because of the lectures he puts online.
This was the interview that started it all for me with Peterson - it totally took my breath away.
I can't conaint the waves of excitement, fear, and awe. "The truth will set you free.", Is haunting me.
Revisiting this older Peterson content really re-ignited my appreciation for the guy. He has had such an influence in my life and thinking, and I am so grateful for having access to his journey and his mind.
Same. This talk is one of his best for sure
i keep coming back to this interview.... AND it keeps getting better!
It's one of the best for sure
I cried at approximately one hour into the documentary. This man has saved my life.
How did you find him?
If Jordan Peterson could see me he would have fun seeing my eyes shine every time when it clicks while listening to his lectures or interviews. He is certainly the source of opening my eyes - to something which I had somehow intuited, but couldn't get it in words. After I met Ken WIlber's books 20 years ago, Jordan is an equally big impact on me and my understanding of the world. I am very grateful for that!
Jordan is my hero. I don't believe he just talks about hero myths; I think he's lived many cycles of hero myths in just his one life and he shares that experience with everyone because he can. Thank you for this interview
Interviewing Dr. Peterson before he became famous. Well done.
Every time I watch one of Jordan’s videos for the first time, I love him even more. He is brilliant. ✝️❤️
Absolutely brilliant. First time i properly spent some time to hear what he has to say. Was not disappointed.
There's something calming about listening to this man. The fact that I know there is a person out there that will speak out to stop ourselves from ripping each other apart makes feel like there's hope for us. Dr. Peterson has a way to see things and explain them to a simpleton such as myself that I would otherwise never be aware of. I honestly feel he genuinely cares about humanity. No one I know comes across to me like he does. He understands humanity and the horror we are capable of. I think we humans scare the crap out of him. And he definitely feels threatened by power and the human who craves it is also capable of. He has obviously read, heard, and most likely seen how dam destructive we can be.
Whenever I listen to Jordan Peterson dive deeply into these subjects, I am shocked at how much of what I've learned, of what I consider to be true, fits exactly into the framework he describes. And we have utterly different backgrounds and life paths, yet have come to the same place. That is not random chance or accident.
The poster in the back says "Study like Lenin" :D
wow... watched this interview years ago and who knew this would have been the catalyst for me finding God and drastically improving my life. One of Petersons best interviews imo
THE best. Clearly.
Peterson's hand gestures are second to none
I remember mowing a very large lawn in 2016 listening to this. I'm so GLAD its still up, took a minute to find. A seminal JBP interview covering what Jordan found personally interesting at the time, pre fame.
This is hands down the best a la carte Jordan Peterson video.
This interview is superb. Peterson does much more than 'fill in the gaps' left by thinkers as great as Nietzsche, Freud, Jung, Darwin, Mill, and Descartes. He presents, in the course of two and a half hours, a near complete ethics; metaphysics; epistemology; philosophy of religion; philosophy of science; philosophy of mind; and philosophy of language (and perhaps even fragments of a political and aesthetic philosophy), all of which are grounded in and unified by a highly parsimonious evolutionary framework. It's genius. Not to mention that he did all of this completely off the cuff. I really wish he answered the question of how Islam figures into all of this. He may have glossed over it simply because his experience lies predominantly in ancient and Judeo-Christian mythologies. Or he may have glossed over it deliberately for some other reason. In any event, thank you so much for capturing this for posterity. And kudos to the interviewer, whose questions, patience, and demeanor were top notch.
Truly our pleasure. Glad you found it insightful.
Yes, that's the only thing I found unsatisfying about this interview, was how he did an almost politicians dodge of the question. it was the only place he fell into word salad for a bit. His reaction and agreement w/ the interviewer's very pointed questions said it all for me though. I take the latter, didn't want to deal w/ the hot potato approach to why he dodged it.
Oh, and when he answered that ideology is a parasite on religion, in his Joe Rogan interview recently. I'll hazard a guess that is part of where he feels Islam falls. He answer answered about dogmatic hell. How the dogma is needed to uphold the structure and integrity of religion, but to go extremely dogmatic creates a rigid, over structured hell w/ no joy and freedom. Sound exactly like Islam to me. And he wasn't dealing w/ Bill C-16 then and his stand against it, so since U of T is so multi culty, I guess it would be really akward to take a strong public stand against it. W/ today's climate, that would probably get him in front of a tribunal quicker than tranny pronouns.
***** I agree. He's smart enough to not spread himself too thin. There are plenty of other people taking on that fight and doing a great job: Ezra Levant at Rebel Media; Mark Steyn, formerly of McLean's Mag.; Gad Saad, of Concordia U, a jew who fled Lebanon during the Islamic takeover attempt there and religious cleansing that took place; Tarek Fatah, a muslim himself who addressed our Canadian congress about the dangers of extremist and even so called moderate Islam and what they really say in those mosques.
He probably ignored Islam because it's incoherent, toxic, groundless, psychotically hateful, and utterly worthless.
Dude, this is great. Sums up his thinking and then some. Still haven't finished though.
Watching in 2020. Still superb. We need JP back in shape!
I watched this Interview at least 5 times so far. Really loved it. Good job man, keep going.
DAMN, is that amazing quality video... Gorgeous, cinematic, well lit.... It looks like a feature film. Excellent! I'd love to know what camera is being used.
Panasonic GH3, Lumix 12-35 f2.8
Transliminal Thanks! I know what I want as a birthday gift! XD
It's actually old kit. If i were you, i'd spring for the GH4 or even GH5, which is supposed to be released early 2017 ;)
this is fascinating, i could listen to this man talk for hours (more than these two and a half)
Tyler J hundreds and hundred of hours on youtube
Awesome work with the timetable there! Much appreciation.
YES! That's all. Simply, yes.
These are still the best interviews of JBP after these two years of interviews. Just ridiculously dense compared to all the others - even most of his own lectures - for some reason. What is your secret Transliminal!?
Thanks for the kind words :) ... I think the secret is that i'm not interested in Peterson's take on SJW/free speech stuff in the least. This interview took place before all that nonsense began. I'm a cognitive anthropologist by training and i just find Peterson's actual work interesting. .... Please consider signing up as a Patron for more like-minded content! :)
Thank you for uploading this video, thank you so much.
It's a privilege to be able to listen to the thoughts of someone who's been thinking and educating them self on the these matters for so long.
You may not condone his post 2016 work and gender statements, but I and millions of others certainly do.
Thank you for filming and sharing this interview. Thank you also for the laborious labeling of the different parts of the interview. The part titled : "like a smart 13 year old boy" referring to Richard Dawkins is funny, as there is a video where Dawkins goes around trying to peddle his views to high school (or elementary ?) children, while vehemently refusing to debate some particular people who challenge his views. in my uploads, I have a video honoring Prof. Dawkins, titled : "Richard Dawkins : Verbal Gymnastic".
from my earliest years, i was hardened against death itself. my father was old enough to be my grandfather....which meant all our relatives were dropping like flies , we had death as a constant companion..was years before i figured out there are much worse things than death...suffering, depression, etc. then i got diagnosed with a death sentence...and continue to live under one , if not two of those factors, it's brought me to realize, at age 55... that i'm far more afraid of suffering before death than death itself. i'm almost thankful that i had those harsh lessons early in life.
Very enlightening. I wish I could have a talk with him some day. This is how far a human can get with paying attention and speaking the truth.
JP wasn't overweight. He was just blown up with knowledge that he needed to share with the world to become thin again.
Thanks for this great interview. My friends and I are starting a book discission group to delve into the sources Peterson discusses here.
Not many people of notoriety in the modern era that speaks so deeply and fundamentally. Jordan is one of the few.
I'm very happy that he got better with his health. Here you can clearly see how he struggled to even breathe before he had started eating beef. I love this guy, I get almost hypnotyzed listening to him. I can say without hesistation that her filled a missing a father figure in my life.
Thank you thank you!!!
That was excellent. Thank you for a job well done on the interview. It was elevating.
Thank you, and our pleasure. You may be interested in the wider project we've been working on, www.newscienceofreligion.com. It'll be available as a full-length online course (for free) via the edX.org platform in 2017: www.edx.org/course/science-religion-ubcx-religionx
The thing about the lights coming on at the end us exactly what I felt when Peterson w as talking about Horus. Thank you!!
Need the podcast! This is awesome!!
Thank god for Dr.Peterson
dr. peterson your definition of religion as an 'evolved action' is the best working phenomenological definition i have heard.
I loved how JP explained breaking things down to a singular element. For instance, when at the beginning talking about "power and sex" being the motivation for a phenomenon. That's exactly how most of my undergraduate classes went.
So many layers of reality...hard to keep up with them all...but every time you try you understand yourself a little better. "The best thing you can do for the world is to straighten your mind out. Understand the scope of things you are capable of, and choose the path that keeps you out of proverbial hell/the distorted mind"
Hey Jordan, I doubt you will ever see this but I just want it known in the world that this is the best video of yours I’ve found. I am so glad you boil everything down and you’re not afraid of metaphysical arguments, something that too many people avoid when attempting to make a coherent argument. You’ve helped me become one of the best psychology students and achieve a level of thought I never thought possible. Thank you. Also, on the small chance this is noticed, what is your choice university for a PhD in Clinical Psychology with psychodynamic training? Thank you and I’m glad you’re still here
heavy stuff, thanks! can I share from this on my channel?
Sure, ideally in a playlist just linking the original video, here. ... Otherwise please be sure to note the production team (us), the URL and CC-BY-NC-SA license.
I've watched a lot of Jordan Peterson interviews..this has to be one of the best ones out there
Awesome video interview. Thank you for posting this video! Cheers
Brilliant mind, new look on some things. Thank you Profesor!
wow. what a great conversation. well done to the interviewer, and prof peterson as always is incredibly lucid and profoundly moved me.
Many thanks for the compliments. I'm glad you found it valuable.
Such a beautiful mind ! I never get enough of his ideas ! He is answering questions I was ashamed to ask even myself. I love his passion when he walks the shadowed territory between science and religion.
I respect your ability to get the best out of Dr. Peterson. It doesn't matter how many times I watch I extract value from these talks. Thank you.
This made my brain happy.
Screw Dos Equis, Mr Peterson is the most interesting man in the world. So glad I stumbled upon this
Very difficult, academic and esoteric interview with Peterson. Worth watching more than once for sure.
I'm like a tape recorder right now I have watched this interview all the way to the end 3 times already