Jordan Peterson on Gender, Patriarchy and the Slide Towards Tyranny
Jordan Peterson, author of 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, was joined by Anne McElvoy, Senior Editor at The Economist and head of Economist Radio, to discuss gender, identity politics, liberalism and #MeToo.
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We are liking this because of JBP, just to make it clear.
You're right!
Notice how the word intelligence is hovering over Jordan. Lovl
JBP is primarily full of shit... or we can call it metaphorical substrate if that sounds better...
Absolutely! She is close to ridiculous.
@@Tahoza Care to explain why? Any evidence to counter his points?
“I’m not interviewing clinical literature, I’m interviewing you.” What a stupid thing to say to a scientist.
Clearly trying to be provocative
@@regalsylvester no, I don’t think so. I think she just blabbed the first thing that came to her mind out of desperation. Peterson was poking holes in her way of thinking so naturally she felt threatened and responded, as shameful as it was.
THANK YOU
Lmaoooooo
He's a psychologist not a psychiatrist. Those are two different professions. One requires more science while the other one which Peterson is requires none at all!
Every interview I watch with Jordan he ends up explaining the interviewers argument better than they do themselves
Seriously.
I believe that's called the Socratic method.
It's important to not target a person. Rather the ideas their putting forth. Therefore it's positively critical to restate the idea to insure that one is truly arguing the idea. Jordan Peterson has long argued he will build up an opposing idea as strong as he can to pay it respect before taking it on. In this way no one can say he didn't give the devil his due.
To the OP: this is SUCH an important point you’re making.
In every single one of these podcasts, they always seem to want to "get" him on some point, yet they just give up and move on to the next question. This man is truly wonderful. 👏🏽
Jordan B. Peterson : "my message to the Hungarians: Do not rebel. What your leader is trying to do is to restore the metaphysical foundation of the Hungarian culture."
yeah people give up because its nearly impossible to get through a thick wall of words without meaning. thats the only thing this moron is good at. speaking convoluded and fooling you people
It's a common tactic by "journalists" fishing for soundbites. She also tries to load his lips several times with "what you're saying is....", and "so you believe ...". They're not used to dealing with someone of Jordan's caliber pushing back and they end up look amateurish. His highlight reel is right up there with the other Jordan I like.
Psychologically he knows he has won the argument when she moves on or changes the topic. Typical women.
Jordan: This is not my opinion. These are just the facts. Interviewer: I don't want to hear facts. I want to hear your opinion so that I can accuse you of having a terrible opinion.
Bang on!
Nailed it
He should have anwered: "I don't have opinions on facts; opinions should be relegated to questions like 'which is your favorite flavor of ice-cream?'"
Yep! 💯. Her intentions are as bad as they get.
Claps
If Peterson started a masterclass in having patience with obnoxious people, I would pay anything to join that.
Just be ready to not be able to have discourse with someone that already made their mind up on unfounded opinion.
The trick is to realize and accept a fundamental truth no matter how revolting or unfair: Good people have to play by different rules than bad people. Same rules don't apply to everybody. Evil people will taunt, mock, bully, provoke and all manner of immoral and uncivil behavior, in the attempt to get you to their level, where they can drag you through the mud. NOBODY will condemn them for that behavior, but will crucify you if you accept the challenge. They want to change the subject, no matter the debate, to how inappropriate YOU are, because they don't posses the truth or the facts and they know it. DONT LET THEM! DONT BE TEMPTED TO RETALIATE. No one will care who started it, and they will blame you, ALWAYS. It's hard, but if you keep your cool and stick to the subject, it actually becomes a lot more satisfying and productive, not only because you win the argument, but because this is what pains them the most. They are getting cancer while watching you destroy their rhetoric with facts, while their impotent attacks glance off you like toy arrows off tanks.
@@oldscorp That was really profound. Thanks. Is there any more literature on this idea?
@@callmepistol Lol, i don't know! Let me know if YOU find any.
@@oldscorp unfortunatley the sort of ppl you are challenging with logic comes in waves! so you can win against a wave or two but when something illogical comes and a cryout is made with only emotional perspective, the loss will be closer and closer! at the end of the day you will just have a war against yourself!
I met JP last month in Cincinnati (after an entire year of waiting). I've never been happier in my life. As soon as it was my turn to get a picture with him for the "meet and greet", anxiety hit me hard. It's so weird meeting someone you admire. I've listened to every one of his debates, speeches, and audio books, and he's genuinely changed my life. Anyways, it was my turn to walk up to him for a picture and I got major butterflies. I looked at him and choked up a little. I said "my heart is pounding so hard. You are my personal hero Dr. Peterson." He smiled, looked into my eyes, and asked what my name was. I told him and he shook my hand and said "It's a pleasure to meet you, Peter." His speech that night was incredible, insightful, and downright beautiful. The man radiates warmth, kindness, and compassion. I'm so glad I got a chance to meet the person I admire most in this world. He genuinely makes me want to become my best self.
JBPeterson: "My message to the Hungarians Do not rebel against your PM Your leader is trying to restore the metaphysical foundation of the 1000 years old Hungarian empire I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your PM. Another name for Jesus is Viktor"
i don't have any clue what all that drivel was. who's victor? what PM Huh? who ? who cares? ...what "message?" nothing you said made ANY sense at all@@furerorban9324
you are a very scary individual. there's nothing of foundation in your "empire" ....and your secret about JEBUS doesn't really impress me@@furerorban9324
Dork
You sound like the male version of a bieberfan lmao
I am I my sixties and writing a parenting book. This man has caused me to rethink much of my work! I’m grateful! 💚
Why are you writing a parenting book if you have to rethink much of your work? Maybe you are a student and not a teacher.
@@generalfusweden3797everyone Is a forever student of life, we all should strive to evolve our opinions based on relevant new data..she is humble and smart enough to admit that some of her opinions were changed, we all need to open to changing our mind and not letting our beliefs/views stagnate. New thoughts and tools are how we evolve.
We all were students, are students and will be students?@@generalfusweden3797And many great literary works were done by students and not by the masters.
Very few people would admit that, and this makes your work already very interesting to me
@@generalfusweden3797So, you decided at some point in your life, that you know everything there is to know and to stop learning? It must be wonderful to be as enlightened and all-knowing as you are!
The most frustrating thing about these types of interviews is that the interviewer has no genuine interest in understanding JBP and his views. That’s why I prefer people like Joe Rogan or Dave Rubin who have a genuine curiosity about the people they interview.
I Agugree.... (Rubin) kzhead.info/sun/fLdwYal8eKmOZKc/bejne.html
Yeah, she would do better after a few DMT or psilocybin experiences. Open her mind a bit.
I feel you dude but personally I'm unsure about Joe Rogan from what I've seen. I’ve noticed multiple instances of him not even trying to understand where his guests are coming from. He also didn’t seem to understand that people aren’t, on the spot, always able to say things in the exact spirit of what they mean. That kind of lack of understanding seems, to me, to be the temperament of someone who’s far more dismissive than they are curious. I’ve heard from people that he’s improved over time though so maybe I’ve just coincidentally seen his bad talks amongst an ocean of good ones, I'm open to that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Genuine interests in that Canadian hack!? Peterson is a no one who is out there to make some buck of out gullible impressionable males. And he is succeeding in that money making enterprise.
Nkanyezi Masondo yes. Truly a useless interviewer as she is only irritated and didn't understand half of what he was saying.
Can we just acknowledge that Jordan Peterson is drawing stars and circles in his notebook all while destroying this rude interviewer
using the word "destroying" towards other person really makes me think that you didnt pay any attention to the subject. Exactly that kind of terms were discussed, but it clearly didnt sink in. Or maybe you just took a nap mid-conversation
@@joananeto9607 sure the word destroying may not be entirely appropriate, how about dismantling, he dismantled every question he was thrown because he understands when someone is being intellectually honest and when they are trying to trap him in a corner with a soundbyte.
@@joananeto9607 He didn't destroy her, but he disproved her weak thinking upon the topics.
@@joananeto9607 Right! If you ask Fugazi to summarize the talk in a few words he couldn't even do that. He just thinks the woman lost just because she was non-assertive and allowed Peterson to talk over her.
@@jamberry8026 No. Peterson simply used facts that did not care about her feelings.
When she says she isn’t interviewing the clinical literature I almost lost my mind. Jordan is basically telling her that it’s not his opinion, these are just the facts, this is the reality. That’s like saying “I’m not asking the mathematical literature on whether 2+2=4, I’m asking you if you think 2+2=4.” That’s not something you “think” that’s something you know because it is a fact.
Aptly put!
I don't think she's capable of understanding the difference.
I get angry just thinking about it, how could she even say something like that, it's deeply wrong. If you are going to talk about something like that it's obvious that you are basing your knowledge on science and research, especially if you are an expert like jordan peterson, it's not a matter of opinion
When a woman starts talking like that, you just lower your eyes and back away slowly. You can't use bear spray, so all you can do is speak calmly and increase distance.
Common phenomenon that people couldn’t distinguish between person and information. More likely to observe in women in the past years, I have to admit.
Wild that Jordan is having such a complex and high level conversation while also doodling some stars on his note pad. He has an extremely well developed landscape of the ideas that they are discussing and excellent identification of persona that he can do both simultaneously, while still contributing to the conversation and helping the interviewer walk through her arguments. Excellent podcast, btw.
It's rude and dismissive and an avoidance technique
@@bereal6590 interesting. I could see how someone might think that's being a bit rude, but also what points did you think he was avoiding?
@@bereal6590probably helps him think. I’ll be doing stuff whilst talking to people all the time. Helps me stay more focused on what they’re saying tbh.
@bereal6590 incorrect...unless you have a thing against people with ADHD, cause a lot of us do this to concentrate better...I used to do this in school and would get yelled at for not paying attention, even though they would attempt to catch me not paying attention and fail Edit: typo
@@bereal6590it would be if JBP wasn't engaging with every question being posed to him. He most likely was doodling because she was boring the life out of him by not having an original thought/question for an hour straight
She's not actively listening, she's just thinking what she's going to say next to catch him out
She's listening to respond instead of listening to learn
Yeah, I thought that same thing
Maybe even listening for that gotcha moment..but it never came.
So? she's a woman! 🤷
@@cato7778 hopefully you’re being sarcastic, but as a bisexual woman, it is a definitely predominantly a woman thing 🥴🥴
Her face is that of a person not listening but waiting
Spot on.
The countless ironies are embarassing. She is so dismissive and condescending and just cuts him off when he's making a cogent point LOL
my ex wife had resting not listening but waiting face like 24/7
hahaha
Paradoximize the simplicity of your comment really captures my main issue with the host of this podcast. Well said.
Dr. Peterson is probably the most misunderstood man walking earth. My initial analysis is that it must be exhausting to continually be on the defense; however, after some thought it might not be as strenuous because he doesn’t have to remember to play a character. He simply shows up as himself, and shares information he’s learned over decades of study. People don’t realize he RARELY EVER gives his personal opinion on anything (unless he’s persistently asked to share), his thoughts are based off scientific data and research. I’m always inspired after hearing him speak, God bless you Dr. Peterson!
pretty straight forward
Her complete lack of humility and respect while interviewing someone who is so clearly superior to her is what (to me) is so shocking about this interview. Her behavior (trying to catch him and then casually changing the subject when she has obviously failed) was abhorrent. It’s also fascinating to me that so many people try to bring this guy down. My life has completely changed for the better as a direct result of him.
the interviewer has a beautiful voice though ill give her that
Cmon it wasn't that bad. She's allowed to ask questions and put him to the test
@@thebigstick5540 Body language, bro.
Literally no idea why these people try to end their careers talking to this man.
Our good friends Dunning and Kruger might be able to explain.
These journalists believe that they are smarter than JP, and if they can discredit him, they will be famous among other journalists... They never seem to realize how wrong their beliefs are in their ability to out smart someone so much more intelligent and educated than the journalists are.
" I'm gonna end this wahmen's whole career".
Pride.
rofl
She exemplifies female aggression as she's tries to argue against it.
On point
Do you recall the part where she's insinuating that Peterson is being a misogynistic asshole when he says that regarding aggression, women tend to lean towards verbal / gossip / character assassination (or was it "career assassination" or something like that?) as compared to men tending to lean towards physical aggression (at least comparatively)? Because it's so... ironic, let's say, that as she was insinuating that, she was exhibiting so much of precisely what Peterson was referring to immediately prior.
@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 The highlight segment 46:05 'Out of control women bullies will destroy reputations, which is the dominant female method of aggression. I studied this 15 years. I'm an expert.'
@C Atanic Sorry you can't read or understand. I quoted Dr. Peterson. You got angry and lied. He studied antisocial disorder for 15 yrs. Telling the truth is love. Leftists telling you lies is hate.
@C Atanic You are an empty troll bot channel. They are often paid by Soros organizations to tell lies and destroy good reputations.
Among the 12 rules for life - IF a cat comes up to on the street, pat it. I do that without have read this book. It's a wonderful feeling, actually. A friendly soul, small and vulterable, comes up and gives you affection, greets, implicitly trusts you etc. It's enough to make my heart melt. One such cat came into my garage. She was emaciated, with long matted gray fur, but with big and alert eyes. I was leaving the garage and she walked with me. I went out by the side door, closed it, and then she stopped. She turned around and slunk into a hole in the siding. Each day after that, I put out a bowl of chicken, and later proper cat food. My little "ghost" came out to greet me every morning outside the garage, and ate her food. Then one morning she came out with three tiny little kittens, and presented them to me. After that, I took mom and her babies into my family. There she and her kittens lived out their lives. We have one of those kittens left. He is now almost 16 years old. It all started with a lost and desperate soul trusting me with her life, and it lead to so much joy. Follow the rule, and pat a strange cat if it comes up to you. If you are able, adopt it.
That's super sweet.
Very sweet and loving
Nothing better than when he says, “I’m actually quite an expert on [the subject].”
It's so hilarious how she changes the subject every time she starts feeling cornered by her own ignorance xD
No joke, talk about moving the goalposts. Every single time he starts to explain himself or his position, she butts in and redirects the conversation where SHE WANTS IT TO GO. What a crap interviewer she is.
Agree. Some of these interviewers just want to challenge him rather than an intelligent discussion..
She started off so well. She was asking really good questions and didn't show any bias. But then...
Why in the world would you say that..... That's what 30 years of psychological data says. Ohh, uhhh let's move on Lol
She has good headphones taste tho
Can we officially canonize JBP as the internet’s “Patron Saint of Heavenly Patience”??? He deserves it after this one.
It's not just this interview, seems to be loads of media outlets were they send him up against a woman who does not want to listen and then fails to make basic assumptions that would be common place in normal conversation, like thinking that serial harassers are vomit inducing. To be fair though that last point mainly connects to that fact that these women are expecting literal Hitler to come to the interview, not the most mild mannered Canadian dad of the internet. JBP: "Clean your room" Internet: *Sigh* "Fine....."
Scott Ferguson True. Despite not really caring for Russell Brand, he gave EXACTLY what a proper interview consists of; questions that allow the person to dissect and explain what they mean, ask for elaborations, ACTUALLY LISTENING to the elaborations, approach the interview as if the person has something to teach you, don’t project, offer healthy criticism, play devil’s advocate when needed, etc.. She seems to be disagreeing just for the sake of disagreement without offering anything concrete to combat JP’s citations of well-established studies. As an interview, it sucks. But for the 4,000 “JP Destroys....” videos/week, it’s another goldmine.
Marino Mazzei Exactly! I was surprise by Russel actually he did a great job, and I think it mainly comes down to the difference between a discussion of ideas versus what we got here, point scoring.
Daniel Luna woah, that’s some crazy demolition of his whole schtick right there danny boy.
The discussion with Matt Dilahunty was also a really good one, and I think he actually challenged Peterson's worldview meaningfully and they both offered good justifications for their ideas. They demonstrated different ways to view the universe and truth, while being very entertaining as well.
Infinite amount of respect that JP actively engages in discourse with those most violently opposed to his views. Beyond depth of character it adds immeasurable weight to his message. Which I struggle to understand how people oppose - be the best person you can be, live a life worth living and tell your truth.
Peterson is brilliant at patiently explaining to the woke world what we all fundamentally know to be true. What is amazing is that that has become necessary.
Well, it is hard to see clearly. Ideologies fog everyone's sight.
@@iraqwarveteran470the ideology becomes the sight.
I didn't know Cathy Newman had a sister.
Not a sister but an identical Copy
Sexist! Don't you know it's now non-specific gender sibling.
i just watched these 2 interviews back to back and she is not even close to Cathy. You may not agree with what she thinks and that's fine, but, she wasn't overly aggressive, she didn't rudely interject as much and she definitely didn't put words in his mouth.
@@josoffat7649 you want to control woman?!?!?? She did put this in his mouth clearly
I see it the other way around. This is a great interview with two people who disagree.
Jesus Christ can we get ONE interview with a woman who isn't insufferable and condescending?
Phil Shen there is a good one, search Jordan Peterson on ‘12 rules for life’ The channel is Marjin Poels
Phil Shen He did one with camele paglia (wrong spelling but is on jbp's channel) it was good.
But these are the ones in which he particularly shines in his answers. I don't really want to watch someone agree with him for an hour, I want to watch him methodically dismantle someone's entire rationale from a psychological frame of reference. THAT'S the good stuff.
Just to be clear, I don't mind confrontation and hard questions, and I think I saw that with the maajid Nawaz interview. Granted I haven't seen all interviews with Peterson and others, and yes, it is a generalization that all his interviews with women have been with shrews. Also I do think he has brilliant answers. But I wrote my comment more out of frustration that so far all the female hosts that I've seen interview him so far seem to come into the interview not to engage him, but rather it seems like they want to gotcha him or destroy him instead. Plenty of male hosts (cough, vice) have tried to do that too, but from my limited view, I've at least seen more male hosts try to give him a chance, less see from female hosts. It probably doesn't need saying, this is not a reflection on women being "b*tches" -- rather I think it's more of a reflection of the women (and men too, to be fair) who are in media and what kind of ideology they subscribe to.
Phil Shen To be fair I thought this was a good interview, she gave him space to explain his views. She asked intelligent Qs as very far as the postmodern left can be expected to pose. I’ve seen almost as many Male interviewers being insufferably thick towards JP as female ones. I don’t think this woman qualified herself to be categorised in the same universe as e.g. Cathy Newman.
The patience and composure of this man speaks volumes past what he already speaks. As I need to work on myself I wouldn't be able to sit for very long while someone criticized my lifes work, views, and bombarded me with questions in an attempt to "get" the interviewed. As well as when the questions are answered in a logical and balanced way the interviewing switches to another topical question when they aren't "winning" the opinionated questioning. JBP keep going strong
The intrgrity, wisdom and BRILLIANCE of Dr Peterson shines through again 😁
Bingo
I just cant believe how he doesnt lose his cool during these interviews. Its unbelievable
He is a smart man. Kill them with kindness and facts.
@@scringe1 took the words right out of my mouth
He is probably redirecting his frustration with her ignorance. Notice how he is doodling on the paper whenever she's squawking nonsense.
he does though, he becames bitter, but i understand him
Oh don't be so naive. He's there because he wants to sell books. They both know that - she's working for a company that is benefiting from the click revenue. It isn't a debate to search for universal truths. It's a financial transaction.
Every time she can tell she’s outmatched she interrupts and changes the subject. He’s so gracious that he lets her do it Every. Single. Time. Kudos to him I couldn’t manage it.
I think that's the one thing he did wrong in the interview honestly. He needed to stay calm just as he was and drive some points deeper. Staying with his completely relaxed manner, he just needed to say "before we move on from _ _ _ _, I'd like to elucidate it further." That way Jordan could demonstrate the absolute invalidity of her points. I know for most non-lunatics what Peterson said was enough, but I'm talking about the ones that are on the fence of lunacy lolllll.
@@markshanahan8147 yeah I feel the same way. By letting her change the subject he doesn’t really get to show how wrong she is, and she definitely won’t change her mind about those points unless he makes her look foolish.
Hes a master class in eloquence and patience
I'm far more impressed about that he is never in need to call it out. He's more focused in embarassing her, by raising the quality of the conversation immediately up, when he starts to talk. Contrasting her argumentative inferiority.
it's weird to see someone so openly ignorant, and who is totally convinced of their being some value in her arrogance. She clearly hasn't understood what it is to appreciate someone who can so easily destroy their opponent like peterson does. She should be thanking him for destroying her. Such an ugly woman in so many ways
Quite an amazing interview. Hats off to both. She hectored as is her job, but was then rebutted, educated, and forced to acknowledge a more evolved and developed intellect and person. Peterson was magnanimous, and patient, with an aggressive ideologue feminist.
Damn I was going to make that comment! Awesome comment!
You think that's the job because of the media circus in which you live and your social expectations; you desire for "big brother" interactions as the norm. There are lots of really good books on discourse you can read one day.
Absolutely anhinatlsted. She tried to disms tled his arguments with passive aggressive jibes and switching topics. Solid performance for JP and why we love him. The antidote we all need. The journalist is a mouth piece drone for the mainstream.
The interviewer dramatically raised my blood pressure.
I think this was relatively tame xD
@@ZupaTr00pa well the absolute ignorance and straw manning she was trying to clutch was blood clenching
Then I dont recommend you watch the Cathy Newman interview, the Q&A with the australian politician or the debate with that NZ Professor of gender studies (whose face is btw extremely annoying).
This woman wrote an article in the evening standard titled 'The unvaccinated have become a lethal liability we can ill afford' dec 14th. Just thought you might want to know this to reinforce what a intolerable and toxic person she is. Not very compromising and agreeable at all.
@@ZupaTr00pa Yea I agree - it was no more or less aggressive than any debate I've seen, was done relatively respectfully even though they clearly disagree with each other on some stuff. Comparing this to the Cathy Newman thing is actually like night and day, THAT was hard to watch. This was more like...playing a game with debating strategies. It was a conversation that wasn't rife with talking over eachother/ad hominems/putting words into eachothers' mouths over and over
This woman does a good job at magnifying Jordan's superior intellect. And illustrating how Jordan has the temper of a saint.
Love this comment. I wrote a whole paragraph ranting and raving by how much this woman frustrated me. I am decided not to post, and will aspire to manage my temper like Jordan.
@@sarahroberts8724 He just perplexes these people doesn't he? These intelligent career women who think they've got it all worked out and think that because he appeals to incels etc that must mean Jordan is against women. He doesn't get angry; that's just one of the wiley ways we antagonise those we want to antagonise. He just can't contain his frustration at their relentless obtuseness.
@@hansiesma16 He absolutely does. I'm amazed they think that they can get the better of him with such pernicious tactics. It's sad they miss the opportunity to learn something!
@Suicide Booth Spot on!
He is talking to a woman who is literally determined to avoid the truth
I learn so much from Jordon Peterson throughout the years.
Wow she got absolutely schooled. Very intelligent interviewer but her loaded questions, disparaging remarks, and scoffs got her a profoundly well balanced and thoughtful response that she seemed to be bemused by. I wish her all the best and hope she can release some of her ideological resentment.
Wow this really hard to listen to, it's pretty obvious that she is attempting to trap him into some clickbait statement to add to her bias cause. I'm amazed at the temperament and patience of this man.
I think she did a good job of research, and had decent questions. The issue is her demeanor when she gets knocked off topic was slightly antagonistic and came from her political bias.
He is truly cool. When I was a boy I looked up to guys who had the confidence to walk up to girls in the street, as a man I look up to men who can engage them, challenge them, and make them laugh with intelligence, and charisma. Russell Brand and JP exemplify "cool" to me.
Honest Outlaw Reviews “patience”
+chucknastyness Russell Brand isn't the sharpest but he is definitely cool.
NotAsian Not necessarily politically but he is very witty and socially commanding
Drops loaded question. Doesn't hear desired answer. Drops more loaded questions with a hint of character attack. Gets smacked with perfect image destroying answer delivered while doodling.
*INTERRUPTS* to drop more loaded questions with a hint of character attack.
GIVE ME A ONE WORD ANSWER SO I CAN ATTACK YOU!!!!!! 👾
Math Don wow
Math Don LMFAO!
Math Don das big facts...after the third or fourth time I had to check comments 🤦🏿♂️
I love civil discourse but I wonder what she thought of the interview after viewing herself. It’s not so much about him winning or losing, but he had an articulate, well-thought response to every topic she raised. Appreciate the calmness he exhibited throughout. It kept the focus on the discussion/topics.
I think we can all agree that Jordan is just brilliant and unmatched in any challenge!
“Yes, women can be bullies”-hands her a mirror.
Lmfaoooo Dr. Peterson had too much maturity for that but it would've been stellar.
lol
🤣🤣🤣
I can never understand the mindset of thinking there are no differences between men and women and at the same time saying women are innocent and men are evil.
My wife is a bully!
How badass is it to intelligently participate in an engaging debate on live radio while casually doodling?
LOADS OF TESTOSTERONE
It's disrespectful. Immagine the reverse. Jordan B. Peterson is often flawless, but in this case his temper was very ill conceiled.
That's polite Canadian speak for "IDGAF".
Jordan was doodling from the very start of the video, while she gave her intro and then asked her first question. To me it seemed like he was already sick of her/the interview from the get-go. Curious about what their pre-interview conversation was like. Perhaps he was super tired and just over the whole thing, that day.
Agreed that it's disrespectful, The Frisian. I love Jordan, but not making eye contact with her during her questions for the first half of the interview seemed rude. And as I've said elsewhere in this thread - I wonder why he behaved like that. Perhaps he sensed what he was in for from the pre-show chat. And/or was just over the whole media thing that day..
My “like” is for the clinical Masterclass Dr. Peterson put on here in facing passive aggressive vitriol. 😮💨 What an absolute legend. 👏
JP is one of the greatest thinkers of modern times....a truly great man!
The frustrating part about all these interviews is how obvious it is the interviewers have a specific agenda but what’s encouraging is how much grace Dr Peterson shows while constantly being attacked.
I share the same sentiment this man is attacked and smeared and he handles it with such grace I don't think I can do it. She raises my heart rate just looking at her face
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Having a person who is continuously and maliciously trying to shove words into your mouth is a good enough excuse to lose it already. He was super patient.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 I don’t think you’re wrong at all. I also agree that he got visibly frustrated with her remarks. My point is that I think that was absolutely her intention,to get a rise out of him for views, and my praise of him is that though he was visibly becoming more irritated he never went after her like most of us might have.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Honestly, the whole debate itself is malicious enough. Look at the amount of material she brought and how she ground every word he wrote in his book. This woman prepared for war and if Peterson has slipped even just one, it'd be a public execution.
The frustrating part is that journalists act like experts or even intellectuals. They cite articles written by other halfwit journalists, and pretend they are learned treatises.
If I had Jordan Peterson as my teacher, I'd never miss a class
Jordan is internet dad to us all. Watch dad be a badass and clean the floor with these woke lunatics.
"My particular attraction for young, white men." Jordan Peterson
@@Sam-cx6gz No
@@Cyfog10 @Sam sams a weirdo
@@WedgeUhMite I mean, his quote is technically correct he just clipped that piece of it and posted it way out of context. I shouldn't be surprised at the internet at this point though 😂
I absolutely adore Jordan Peterson and I'm a woman. ❤👏👏👏👏 I'd LOVE to have a conversation with him, especially about how amazing it is being a housewife and mother. How it's empowering for me and how much my family depends on me and what a benefit my role has been on my child and husband. I think we have a pretty beautiful and healthy life, tbh. I'm very happy about what I've accomplished even though our society doesn't see it as such. We have treasures money can't buy.
sigh , here we go again "i'm a woman" as if your vagina gave you personal insight on something....i'm so sick of hearing "and i am a woman!" as if being one is so special its amazing you actually listened at all? huh?!
“I will now ask you a question then speak right on top of you once you start to answer the question - great shall we begin?”
"Just to be clear, you think that a water molecule is two hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom bonded together." "Its not that I THINK that!"
Felix Alrick well done 👍
Lol! It is frustrating. As a general rule if you're male, never go into a philosophical discussion with a woman.
Felix Alrick 😂😂😂😂😂😊
So you’re saying you support the unequal molecular gap in hydrogen and oxygen in water?
Oxygen is in minority, but it's the hydrogen that feels oppressed
The man has mastered the art of patience. That in itself is admirable.
Exactly what I was thinking.
He's playing the long game always
Indeed. I got annoyed and frustrated just listening to her. Most of her comments were there just to try to look smart. He, held his ground admirably though.
This is not a game! Why do men think this way. ?
@@bonnierobinson8684 gender is just a social construct sweetheart. Now go back to sleep.
Peterson outclassed her at every step.
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People have to stop trying to win an argument with Jordan and instead try to have a conversation with him. Interesting person with a lot to teach.
The problem is that the mainstream media are activists, not journalists. she wanted this interview, not to defeat Peterson, not to prove the far left justifiable. she wanted it so she could use him to stand atop her ivory tower and gain power from pushing him aside. not that she did, or could. she is here for woke points plain and simple.
So true. These journalists can't hope to match wits with people like JP. What makes them think they have a prayer?
if I may, I'll generalize your sentence: SJWs have to stop trying to win an argument with people who actually know what they are talking about, and instead need to try and learn something from those people.
Yes!
The problem is that these journalists begin with conclusions about the people they interview and try to get interviewees to confirm the journalists conclusions. The journalists already have their narrative, therefore have no need to really listen, or learn. They already believe that they "know" the facts based on their opinions.
As a 34 year old professional, it was 2 years ago after having my 3rd child, I am now a stay at home mother. I stand behind Jordan Peterson. A title and a high figure pay does not match bringing up and being a maternal constant for my household. Less emotionally disregulated children and peace than a decade ago. Keep it up Mr. Peterson!!!
Get the book "Two income trap" by Elizabeth Warren ... a lot of families are now wading through 40/50 years of financial hell only to realise that they're kids are not in a good space. Think a man can stay at home as much as a woman can (if that suits the couple) ... but the concept of dual income household as the norm for society is having / and is going to have lots of long term consequences
I agree and am so happy to read your comment. Enjoy that family- they grow up and leave so quickly, then there's time to pursue other interests.
Well as a society we are pushed in to believing that we need a certain amount of "stuff" to maintain a "normal" life or to give the appearance of success. The idea of success now is almost entirely material in the western world, it's no accident that people's individual happiness has gone down due to this desire to look materially wealthy.
@@dendradwar9464 ie Japan
I hope you extend that care and peace to your husband as well.
22:25 Exactly. It’s like a flat head screwdriver and a cross head screwdriver. Both are screwdrivers but the small difference matters a lot. Yet both might be able to try to do what the other does. That’ll destroy the screw head eventually and/or the screwdriver.
This woman sounded almost intelligent when she was reading the script at the beginning. As soon as her opinions began to fall out of her mouth, that illusion was quickly dispelled.
Yep. She didn’t sound terribly biased at the immediate beginning but it wasn’t long before she couldn’t even read the script without her bias ooze out into how she delivered it.
She's dumb. Gives bad name to women. She is just not getting anything AND doesn't let HER GUEST finish most of his arguments, so people who DO get it can listen. Is she a paid host who is hired to as questions or a catty argumentative witch in a bar? And whenever she gets so cornered by her own dumbness she can't come up with arguments she just says okay let's come back to...". Oh yeah and a few times she actually yells over (or at) her guest. What a mess of an interview did this witch create! Fire this disrespectful, dumb and emotionally unstable woman.
jup just this..listened to it while cooking and I thought this isnt a bad interview..then I came back with my food and we have the sudden jump from the first half to "MEE TOO, MEE TOO"..gotta admit this old hag got me fuming several times with her stupid pseudo intelligent smirks at this point. Kudos to him
@@ElenaKomleva 💯
@Elena Komleva i wouldn’t say she’s a representative of women, but she’s a individual, and a rather crass one at that. But I agree with everything else you stated.
Jordan Peterson is drawing while debating in this interview. The amount of respect I have for this man is through the roof
He's probably drawing a horrible accurate portrait of this woman. This woman is disturbingly disgusting
through the roof and off the charts
Haha, I just noticed that. JBP is an amazing man beyond any description that I have the capacity to write. Thank you so much for your dedication and honesty that is so evident to anyone watching.
The more complex one's mind, the more distractions it seeks while not being fully engaged. Fidgeting, drawing, playing with things, tapping fingers and a general restlessness are good signs of that.
Doodling
She has a lovely voice
Tom Waits! Damn, now I have to really love Jordan Peterson
My love for this man is beyond words. By the way I am a girl.
Isn't it a shame you feel you have to point out being a girl - hopefully what most will take away from it, is that you're a thoroughly decent one. All the best in 2020 xx
Ditto!
@@gnoelalexmay why is that a shame? That's embarrassing you even think that
@@bye92 I think you may have missed Graham May's point altogether.
An open logical person Or a woman?
She asked " Am I the average woman?" And got upset with an objective answer.
...like an average woman
If I was Jordan I would've answered "Do you feel like you are better than the average women?"
@@ObsoleteTutorials A bit too open ended. Leaves them a chance of recovery and doesn't force them to face the reality.
Guessing the rhetoric question and all the rhetoric answers are all coming from guys who consider themselves to be" average" men. Average misogynists, yeah :-)
@@Ounouh gold
Jordan Peterson is the essence of LOGIC! 🧠
i am reading mr. peterson's book right now and it helps me enormously. a lot of our own misfortune and unhappiness is created by ourselves. it is easier to spiral down then exceed in what you are doing. giving up is always easier than trying until you succeed. this resonated with me a lot. we are the smiths of our own lifes
Holy hell. Where do they find these women. Like push push push for an answer. The halfway they cut him off and switch topics once they see won’t get him to say what they want. He is a patience guru. Love this guy.
EXACTLY. wow..
Dr Peterson says women and men have about the same IQ. Unfortunately women talk show hosts just dont cut it.
@@totalchaos290 It is not about the average, it is all about the standard deviation. Men have a larger standard deviation in many traits. Even if the average is the same, a higher standard deviation means that men will be grossly overrepresented three standard deviations out on both sides of the distribution. This is probably the reason why most Nobel Prize winners in natural sciences are men or out of all self made billionaires only a handful are women.
It was more of a joke but Newman was way out of her league. Shes a hack shes just pushes her agenda and DR P put her down like the dog she is,
Well, that characterizational trait is precisely what makes up what a woman is, so...
Anne: writing notes on how she can try and push bullshit agendas. Jordan: destroys her agendas while drawing doodles.
I just noticed that
Well he was wrong on the trans issue. He rallied support for freedom of speech... everyone got on board, but in that same action he treated the trans community like a stubborn beurocrat placing procedural correctness before people needs. So I get the impression he probably have some flawed logic to his ideas on gender too
@@paulesposito7055 yah, no. He has said multiple time that he would respect a trans person's pronouns if they are being genuine. And calling a person by a pronoun, it is not a need, it is a generosity. BIG DIFFERENCE.
@@paulesposito7055 you have not listened to him
@@CourageToB I know him inside out. He’s a dog. As a consequence, his ridiculous concerns were ignored and the law sailed straight through
The talk show is called “intelligence squared” yo. I can’t even-
When Ms. McElvoy interrupted Mr. Peterson at 22:26, it drove me crazy.
Jordan has far more patience with passive-aggressive people than I do.
I am afraid of cancel culture. I have done bad things.
@@Grappapappa unless you're a big celebrity, i don't think you need to worry lmao
Passive aggressive is just a politically correct term for "you fight like a woman".
What you need to realise about passive aggressive people is that your anger/frustration gives them pleasure, don't let them see that they're getting to you and that will screw with them more than anything
@@GameGorillaYT You think only celebrities deal with passive aggressive people?? With a name like your I'd thought you'd be more wiser
The problem with this man is that he is so blisteringy intelligent he flies over most people's heads.
In the land of the one-eyed, the two-eyed man is crazy.
If he is so smart why did he back out of the Richard Wolff debate on Marxism, even going so far as to pretend not to know who Professor Wolff was? "There was this professor... Richard Wolff, I believe? He responded to my comments on Marxism..." LMFAO
@@KrisVic91 he's the king of talking incoherently in circles.
@@MonkeyDIvan what a reach
@@JayandSarah if you can't comprehend what he's saying, just say that lol
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I was in a dark place in my life. My life was a mess. As much as I tried, I couldn't get out of bed, I was in great depression in my life. Watching Jordan Peterson's online lectures, I started little by little. After two years, little by little, I managed to have personal responsibility, to have a vision for my future. You really helped me a lot. Thank you very much Mr. Peterson.
Good for you, thanks for sharing your story. It's very positive to hear that other people are also benefiting from his lectures!
Hey Paulo, I hope you're still doing well, and I hope for the best for you.
Yeah well that makes you baddd /s Its astounding how much shit peterson gets. History will be kind to him, while these false attacks, not so much.
I've not much time for Peterson but this is one of the few threads on this video that doesn't make my scrotum unwrinkle itself in shock at what I read.
I am on the start of this path hopefully just quit self medicating with weed and benzos and going to hopefully get my future straight. But who knows what the future holds
Another interviewer who came to the dinner table without a fork
Al E Gator she came with 2 knives.....
I was going to write that I was at @15:00 so far and she was doing fine, asking good, non-debaters questions that brought out some real knowledge. By @30:00 ... not so much. She's in a machine gun fight against a guy in an A-10 not knowing her gun is a toy.
Jordan Peterson is a runaway freight train these interviewers cant even catch up to his mind wizardry. LEGEND
Ahh really the pay gap again! They are still pushing that wheelbarrow of horseshit!
Omg I'm almost done, but the pattern of load a question get shot down with actual arguments, try and steer the argument to the feminist argument keep getting shot down. Bout time to quickly change the subject!
I find it amazing that Jordan doodles while talking. I sometimes do the same thing. It actually somehow helps to make me concontrate more on the topic. I remembered I used to get in trouble in school for doodling, but it helped me to actually focus on the class.
I love how Jordan will say the most well thought-out and eloquently spoken point and the interviewer just completely ignores it and asks about something completely unrelated lmao
Now this is a man of western culture. A truly admirable gentleman.
Alex Martinovic god bless him too. He puts up with ALOT of bullshit, and yet comes out shiney armor and everything lol
Yes 🙌
Which western culture? There are many.
'Western culture, that's a great idea.' Mahatma Gandi. Noooo maan. This guy is a citizen of the world, respects and consults spiritual traditions witch 'western culture' does not. Yet
Man the interviewer is pretty condescending. He’s actually right in what he is saying. She’s attacking him. 😣
I agree Simone. She attacks Jordan... and does a very poor job promoting her view. Bad questioner...asking bad questions, then not really hearing the responses.
@@carycunningham6588 I agree. She never actually bothered to listen to his answers and to try and grapple with them. It's so mind boggling that she doesn't even understand that he's actually criticizing the exact ideology she can't shake herself free from. Peterson: I don't believe you should be viewing the world through a lens of "group identity is paramount." Interviewer: So who's your favorite feminist?
@Patrick J Mims I think you're the one who needs to watch it again. Sheesh, the cognitive dissonance...
If I may...would you consider this...that what she was pulling was lower than attacking. I couldn't believe it at first but then it was so obvious..she was trolling him...and that's as cheap as it gets.
@simone - that's right. It's hilarious really. I'm sure she'd like to see herself as a radical and intellectual, and she doesn't realize that she's just coming across as thick and nasty. A poor man's Cathy Newman, I reckon.
Well done JP 👏👏👏
If we could all think before and after we speak like this gentleman, the left and right would balance out in a hurry
Every time he actually starts dismantling her assertions she changes the subject. CLASSIC manipulative practice. She is desperate to remain in absolute control of the interchange. Her goal is not to ask him questions and hear him answer, it is to force him to say what she wants him to say
Sounds like my relationship
Most telling when Jordan starts drilling down into the difficult question of how to regulate sexual behaviour at work. You can almost see the interviewer realising she is not going to pin anything on him and may well infact end up in a complex dialogue and wop change of topic.
Sociopaths
@@lukELfin All of the rhetoric and controversy over this feminism issue is part of a much deeper problem. But, it is the result of the constant bombardment and culture indoctrination saturating our society from the SJW Leftist and radical feminist. Who's main agenda is to spew out propaganda through educational institutions, TV/movie industry programming, commercials, and electronic mainstream media in order to indoctrinate young boys and "shame them" of their natural masculine traits & become effeminate_ more like girls, and tell young girls that their natural femininity has no value unless they become more masculine_ like boys to gain some notion of a perceived power which they must attain. Although, from their perspective, intentions are good. However, their noble efforts have become radicalized ideology which is ripping deeper & deeper at the bottom of the foundation of our Nation and society (the traditional family). It seems the radicalist structure, leftist politicians, and feminist won't be satisfied until we find ourselves living in a bizarro world with the sexes switched completely upside down. I think that only the delusional individual could believe that a world with a society like that would be healthy and thriving?
That must be why it seems like they can't close a topic, though Peterson does excellently at providing his thoughts.
I love how he casually dismantles her arguments, while completing his crossword puzzle. 😂
FACTS 😂
@nick m. Many were loaded questions with controversial assumptions. It's almost as bad as the infamous Cathy Newman interview.
@nick m. The largest psychological difference between males and females is their interest. Males tend to be more interested in things, and females are more interested in people. Boys tend to go for toy trucks, and girls prefer dolls. Psychologists have also done these tests with primates, and the results were the same. There have been international studies, with thousands of citations, showing that the more egalitarian a society becomes, the more different the genders become. In Scandinavia, where their societies have gone the furthest in egalitarianism; women outnumber men in jobs where people are the main factor, like nursing, by 20-1. Similarly, men outnumber women in jobs where comlex 'things' are involved, like engineering, by a similar amount.
@nick m. That's provable right from childhood. Boys tend to be more interested in lego. Girls tend to be more interested in dolls. Lego is more creative and thing oriented, and dolls are more social based. Inb4 you say "not all boys/girls do it," that's correct, but for the mass majority that is the case. Edit: I seem to have the same answer as Dean, so I'll further elaborate on mine to make it more diverse. I've had a lot of female friends growing up, and for the most part, all of the girls who also loved playing with legos ended up pursuing more thing based jobs (which are more occupied by you guessed it, men,) they tended to be a lot more tomboy-ish, and tended to focus more on their careers over social status and had a lot more work-ethic.
@nick m. he dont need to prove that if you do you homework
Guy from South Africa. Love the man and I'm inspired.
It truly feels like she is so convinced of her own truth, that whenever she hears something that logically shows her ideas to be untrue, she just goes blank and just doesn't allow it to integrate into her believes and moves on to the next subject still wondering slightly what just happened a few moments ago and why it didn't go as she imagined. Like when she asks "there's literature on gossip and innuendo?" Like she has no idea that is actually (like peterson says) "a well documented field". And you'd expect that after finding that out you'd reconsider what you said before that moment when you still thought he was just making this stuff up. But none of that. She just plows through without the slightest hint of actually having processed any of the answers she gets. It is an hour long of "I am right and I don't quite understand why my quest says different things than I expected but lets go on regardless"
This man's brain power and ability is unbelievable. How he stays calm and can easily dissect his opponents arguments is brilliant.
Yeah, and he doodles in the meantime
@@Khedaar Reminded me of Dennis from Always Sunny in Philadelphia at the Psychologist lol One of the best episodes ever
The problem I see with many people interviewing JP is that they are all baiting him and hoping he says something wrong. His wisdom and approach just leave them in the mud.
Like Jordan said. Women like to show aggressiveness through reputation destruction..
They try to outsmart him probably because he make them feel powerless
87stevan I’ve learned more from this man than I did in school
@@sluglif3424 and his point overwhelmingly is: power must be earned.
yeah... WHY? (...sounding like Russell Brand .. JBP's contemporary, i think)
I have never seen "I absolutely hate everything about this man" expressed purely in body langue before this video. That lady is absolutely seething. And she's clearly not stupid. She's just utterly ideologically captured.
Cubed root of intelligence as opposed to intelligence squared IMO
She doesn’t even let the man complete most of his responses. She wasn’t there to find out his views at all, it was more so to “catch” him in something that would connect her negative views of him as truth. She’s sickening
true, she was interviewing to vilify him
@@abhishekherCaptain Ahab hunting her great White Whale!!
Agreed, she was fishing and at the end, all she got was a big load of nothing. People like her is not interested in gaining knowledge. She's just trying to be the white knight of effenism and failing miserably. She however outed herself as an effenist ideologues and nothing more.
I see the same thing… we got to take the power back… Men and Women.”
her disdain and intent to catch him into being a horrible person makes it hard but so satisfying to watch Dr Peterson flowing like water
Doctor water peterjohn
i dont get why people think this. she is trying to conduct an interesting interview and how is she doing that? by challenging his ideas. i think you guys overestimate the adversarial position you believe the interviewer is trying to take. if she asked all fluff questions, how interesting would the interview be? the top rated comments for jordan peterson always seem to criticize female interviewers for their "lack of intellect" or "bad motives" which brings credence to the people who criticize jordan peterson. i dont think i have an issue with peterson, but i do have an issue with the conclusions a lot of his fans come to as a result of listening to peterson.
@@davemanning4005 so you have watched enough of these interviews, i would assume you see the same attitude by the same type towards him, now what don't you get?
@@davemanning4005 Every time he corners she directs the topic to where she wants it to go. Sorry but if you literally can’t let your client speak then you have not only failed at being an interviewer, you have also failed as a decent human being.
Thanks!
His thought process is so clear it feels like watching a Laser speak
"I'm right you are wrong" "lalalalalalalala" "not listening" How to be an interviewer in the 21st century
I def think he lost interest at the end! ;)
Lasse Kristensen he lost interest in the beginning 😆 he started doodling before the podcast began
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
I'd like to say something disparaging about this interviewer, but I'm going to clean my room instead. 😑
hell yes
Amen!
Hai Phan I kind of agree but you missed one point. Whenever she disagreed with one of his points she changed topic. And that happened quite a lot, like every minute or so.
Well done sir!
Word
Well said ❤️
I am a man.. from Indonesia.. I listen and study from Peterson's lectures..
Lol JP scribbling stick figures while taking this lady to school haha LEGEND
Matty Amato meanwhile this woman has lots of notes and still got owned.
Lol yes! Epic!
He doodles because he’s in control. He’s the smartest person in the room because he’s addressed every topic at every angle whereas she’s coming in very one sided with an ideology. If you’re that rational then you’re just talking sense ALL the time
i DIED when i saw he was drawing stars...LMAO
Yes, yes let me destroy your argument... but first of all... let me... finish this guys car... XD
Propably the most important man of our western civilisation.
And all it took was addressing the obvious in a research backed way (:
Thankfully he can shoulder the truth of it with humility. He's one of those who are a gift to mankind, being born for such a time as this.
@@casualamer8543 Yes, but the Left has a way of twisting what is inherently obvious to people. I think we've been "gaslighted" by them for far too long.
Christ?
@@jpaulo_ap Him too.
My man is drawing while dismantling ignorant arguments
I find it tough to watch predominantly one-sided intellectual conversations. Thank god for Jordan Peterson!
This interview should be titled “non-scientist disagrees with scientist’s conclusions bc she isn’t educated enough to interpret the data”
100% accurate. She's so uneducated. What I like most is the scene in which she tries to ridicule the 5 dimensions psychometric model and want to replace it by evidence of peoples "dealings". She should go to university before trying to mess with someone of JBPs caliber
@@simkrer She should absolutely NOT go to university, because she will come out with even worse leftist ideology than she has now ... it's a cruel world.
@@ljdasilva3139 Agreed in parts, but only if she studies the social "sciences". Statistics would help her
Hmm I'm going to some what disagree with this because data points are open for interpretation were as empirical data is not.
or just... "interviewer asks questions and gives a chance to address criticisms" - seemed like a good interview to me, you dont want someone who agrees with everything he says asking the questions
7 reasons why I already admire Jordan Peterson and I just discovered him last week Jordan Peterson makes being smart attractive!! 1.A good teacher Jordan Peterson is very intelligent ,he has the ability to take complex subjects and turn them into digestible, easily understandable information not to mention that he uses regular stories,the Bible and movies and different religions as examples 2.A great orator (Articulate/Assertive) He is very articulate , a great story teller in deed! one can listen to him for hours , I don't remember the last time I was excited to listen/watch an interview. He is very assertive, he knows how to get his point across and he alligns his words so well that if you would cut off the interviewer part his answers perfectly follow up ... just as if it was a speech . 3.Great composure/patience Anyone in their right mind would attack the interviewer not Jordan Peterson, I think he has a perfect mind that's how he can stand her, keep calm, even think about his answers ,and to some questions that I thought were pure mischaracterisation and that he shoud decline to answer ... nonetheless he answered ... so much respect to you Mr Peterson ! 4.His compassion his compassion and ability to show empathy and emotions when necessary. He cares about the individual ,his/her progress and that's how you know if he met you he would value you, #you matter # you are important# you don't have to come as a group to get my attention# I can see you True, we may have similar experiences but our copying mechanisms are different ,our challenges are different So it's important to be seen as an individual, to be encouraged to improve ,that's how one can feel valuable and since we are social beings we tend to share, we spread both negativity and positivity so that's how you start a cycle of goodness, hardwork, selfrespect....and more Basically teach me how to catch a fish and I'll do it myself next time. Not deliver fishes to me so I can be codependent and lose self respect because I am incapable of taking care of myself and I can't live without you. And by the way a strong group is usually comprised of strong individuals, a good team is usually comprised of good players there's no other way around it. One cannot aspire to the well being of the group while neglecting the individual. 5.His confidence/courage Jordan Peterson is so confident that he is not afraid to say the truth he stands for what he believes in ,he defends his ideas regardless the discomfort it may cause and that's very courageous 6.His humility Not only does he give examples about his own shortcomings but something else that's very fascinating about him is that regardless everything he knows that the majority if not all of his listeners or even average people don't know he has the humility of saying something most of us are ashamed of saying which is I don't know.. 7.His good looks I think I might be wrong that Jordan Peterson is the kind of handsome man who probably doesn't have a clue he is or who probably is even surprised people mention it but I'm glad to say I'm not the only non-feminist woman who says that ,He is very handsome indeed! and his calmness just takes it to another level So I would say Jordan Peterson is a perfect & imperfect man , listening to him definitely teaches me alot , I am becoming smart overnight! So thank you!
my. words.
@David Chicote obviously
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@Umwali Sharon how about we invite JP in Kigali to talk to our fellow Youth 😍😍
I agree with everything :)