Israelis: What do you think of converts to Judaism?
2016 ж. 7 Мам.
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converts are the ultimate legitimizers when it comes to religion...think about it...this means that someone found your ideas in their adult life, and consciously chose to believe and follow them instead of being brainwashed from birth. they are probably the truest followers of ANY faith they convert to.
Delusion is delusion, regardless of the level. You don't become religious through ANYTHING except brainwashing.
I agree completely. But from the religious persons perspective, a convert could be viewed as a great marketing tool. Judaism just doesn't market to non-jews.
Taylor Lords, Same with atheism. Lots of your atheist ideas are based upon being brainwashed by Dawkins, Krauss, Hitchens etc to reject scientific principles like causality and the universe being finite in support for your own religious faith in atheism. "B-but atheism is just lack" not to you it isn't, which is why you're going around preaching anti-religion and atheism with the dogma of any other religious fundamentalist.
@@thvvgu2054 nice
@@thvvgu2054 Very true and so well said
No matter what your race or religion, no matter how open-minded you claim to be, the ultimate test is how you react when your daughter brings home someone that isn't in your group. I think that's universal.
You are right
Can confirm
Do not want
I mean... We can pretend like what that other group is doesn't matter, but we all know it does. As a Northern European, if my daughter came home with a Jew or an Eastern Asian, I wouldn't mind one bit. If she came home with certain other ethnicities/races, I would mind a lot. Not being that way isn't a sign of character. It's a sign of not caring about your kids.
@@Galdring That’s a funny way of saying that you’re racist
Oooooh boi... Looks like "It's okay as long as is not in my house" is a pretty universal thing after all
Thank god.
@@randylahey8434 literally
I dont think its wierd, im from chechnya and we also most likely Marry a chechen. Even if we are strongly beliviers in islam we still prefer a chechen. For me it dosent matter as long there is Good personally conection but i do unterstand why specielly small nations marry their own. Marrige it chechenya is much more then just love with 2 people its about ur familys baounding and that means ur wifes family become urs aswell. So u prefer a chechen because u know what to expect and give.
@@4evermarx yeah, I understand what you mean, but these people start off by saying "yes, converts should be treated exactly the same as born jewish people", just to then say "I mean, not exactly. They can't marry my daughter"
@@dralfonzo24 i Think that they are not prepared for some deep question most of them seem confused about why they cant marry a convert but i Think they mean that they are happy and treat converts aswell as ethnic jews. But not wanting Marry converts dosent necassary has to mean that they donts see them as equal jew just probably are more comfortable with same traditions and culture. If some ethnic jew adopted a child and dont think anyone would see that child as convert.
"In the end, he was once a Gentile." Someone tell this guy, SO WAS ABRAHAM.
...and Lot, and Noah, and Enoch, and Adam and so on and so forth. Judaism is an outdated religion. Awaiting a messiah who’s already come but they rejected him while still thinking they’re “God’s chosen people”.
@@mukalal2160 so sure huh
@@mukalal2160 outdated lol yet the Torah over and over tells us that what happened that day at Sinai was an eternal covenant and anyone in the future that comes along and tells us otherwise are liars. You make it seem like our whole religion is just waiting for a “messiah” and that couldn’t be further from the truth. Our religion isn’t centered around 1 man. It’s a way of life that came from God himself.
@K. Sexton how dare you insult our mother Aisha R.A like that. She's not a slave, she's the beloved Wife of the prophet Muhammad PBUH. In the end she is happy. The age of marriage was different back then, and our prophet wasn't lustful like what you people accuse him as. He usually prayed at night (Tahajjud) and fasted during the day, sometimes there is no food even after the time to break fast. How could a Man have sexual relationship frequently if he is hungry? He is also busy about other things in the community since he is a caring Leader. not to mention he has a mission by God Almighty Himself. He didn't desire anything in this short worldly life. He worried about the afterlife of his ummah(Nation) more. He is our beloved prophet Muhammad shalallahu alayhi wasallam ❤️
Abraham was neither a jew nor Christian, he was Muslim. Like all prophets.
It's funny. Judaism actually teaches that a convert has a much higher soul than a born Jew, because he/she had the power to come back.
what do you mean come back?
they came back to Judaism, same as people that are born Jewish but didn't grow up religious. they have to change their entire way of life to keep the Torah, while people that are born into it have it easier because it's all they know
As someone who knows very little about Judaism and cynic of religion as a whole, I do commend it.
Judging without knowing is a quite weird thing to do. But do as you wish my brother.
thats not true at all... 'higher soul' wtf does that even mean? if i was born ethnically jewish, no amount of religious pscyho babble will make me not jewish, or will make another person jewish. religious belief is a fucking cancer. the entire point of israel was to minimize the effect of religious belief on Jewish identity.
so traditional orthodox jewish people don't sin? ah ok noice
claudia They are sinners. They believe that even a person who looks at a woman who is not the woman with whom he married and thinks she is attractive is a sin and that is why on Yom Kippur Jews do not eat and drink and then they immerse themselves naked in the sea or in the pool and pray to remove all sins!
They are a bunch of hypocrites. They are the worst. The ones that say to everyone "dont use any machine during shabbat" but let their tv turned on so they can watch it without "using it". They even have special elevator in Israel, that you get into during shabbat, they lift you at each floor so you dont have to press the button. 😐
JeremyLeMajestueux yea people get lenient on that stuff but who cares what other people do?
@QE ornotQE It's not "reneging on contracts," idiot. It's annulling vows. Like if you swore to G-d to do something which you couldn't fulfill, if you didn't annul the vow, you'd be liable for the sin of breaking a vow. Like, for example, if you said, "G-d, if you help me get this good job, I promise to give 10% of my income to charity" and then you get the job but you don't donate to charity, you've sinned. You're still obligated to honour contracts. The Gemara is absolutely stuffed full of law on honouring contracts and being ethical in business, which I can say because I have actually read parts of it, whereas I suspect you've never even seen one. And everybody sins. And nobody immerses on Yom Kippur, because we're forbidden to bathe or even wash our hands ritually except up to the second knuckle. (Yes, we still wash our hands after going to the bathroom. That's something else.) Ironically, I am a conversion candidate, which is why I know all this stuff cold. It's in the job description.
Biggest sinners out there mate.
Today I learned that "llama" means "why". As if the one who named the animal looked at it and said "Why God?"
Lol, in Israel there is a joke that says why (lama)Phil and Giraffe went into the cave and came out 3 ?? Because lama is it also an animal
😂😂 probably after it spit in its face 😂
“And then it spit in his eye for the insult”.
@@eliaslina4346 That's a funny joke even though it doesn't make any sense in English.
thanks for making these videos. been enjoying them for years and they're super interesting 🙏
Conversion to Judaism is a long and difficult process that pushes the converts to the limits of their dedication, therefore it is safe to say that most converts are real Jews with a deeper appreciation for the religion. I don’t think the question was a good one since the Torah specifically praise the converts and Moses married one.
You have a good point, but I think it was a good question to broach the topic. The follow-up questions addressed personal feelings more directly and showed a larger variety of opinions.
I saw someone become a Jew, it took about 30 seconds, he was asked by a fellow Jew if he truly wants to be a Jew, he said yes and he was pronounced Jew on the spot.
@@86Corvus you watched him undergo a bris and immersion?
@@86Corvus That's not the process, it has to be done but religious leaders..
Moses, Joseph, Jacob, Juda, Abraham, and many semite races had kids with canaanites, and egyptian. But i actually think the woman Moses married is median, this means shea also from Sem's / Abrahams line her self. Because when Sarah died, Abraham married the 3rd time and had kids with Kutura. I think he had 5 sons with Kutura and Abraham send them also away, same way he did to Ishmael. They became the Medians. Medians is the tribe Moses's wife came from. But yes the point is that semite races from Sem's line have allways been marrying and mixing with canaanites, and egyptians. But Y chromosone goes only from father to son. So the main semite dna line remains the same.
*The Talmud says: "When a convert dies, he is more precious in God's sight than a Hasid."*
Otis C-14 No. Many Jews do not believe in jesus. He called himself god, and he persuaded people that he was the messiah when clearly he was not as we are not living in the age of utopia as a redeemed people. According to Christians he fulfilled some but not all the prophecies, hence the supposed “second-coming”. The REAL messiah is to come, fulfill all the prophecies, and usher in a new era. Jesus also claimed that faith in him was the only way to reach “salvation”, and not the faithful observance of God’s commandments. I was a christian before. Paul attempted to do away with the commandments of God as well, (saying circumcision wasn’t necessary, sabbaths aren’t important, etc.) just shows how wrong it all is. No MAN has the authority or power to do away with ANY of THE LORD GOD’S commandments.
Emmanuel Avila except for the son of God , born of the spirit into a virgin mother. Jesus was the messiah .
IL NGR I guess it’s a matter of what you take as the truth. The messiah was born of the spirit . He is God manifest in the flesh . Jesus was here already . The second coming is the rapture of the church , and salvation for those who believe in Christ . Salvation does not come through law, but through faith .
IL NGR 1 john 2:23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
@IL NGR what do you say about Catholics?
I think the guy at 6:10 was trying to say that the community feels two converts are more compatible for each other due to a shared experience, and therefore make a better couple.
Agreed. I am not Jewish, neither born nor convert, and it seemed pretty clear to me what he was saying. After all, even if you consider a convert to be 100% Jewish, that’s not the only important part of making a marriage match. There are a lot of other factors that go into finding a compatible spouse, than just being part of the same religious group.
No he was being careful. It's racism.
Probably. Or he was thinking that the converts aren't as "clean" as they are (having been part of their life allowed to do things like smoking, pre-marital sex, music/movie industry, etc)
@@coldhands2802 not everything is racism, try using logic next time. 🤷🏽♀️ That guy wouldn't marry a born Jew who grew up secular, or even a Jew who grew up ultra orthodox but in a different subsect.
@@shabyheltay Right right but you wouldn't say that if a wyte person said this. You'd call it racism. Hypocrite.
I love this series of videos! Thank you for all your time and work putting these together. Most impressive is how well Israeli's describe they're viewpoint rationally. Thank you to all those interviewed for such amazing responses.
my dad converted to judaism and it's kind of funny that he definitely studies and practices judaism the most out of my family
This is the most common thing to hear😂 I don't know any converts who aren't like this. They are also the most receptive to debating halacha
Converts are usually better than those born into a faith anyway.
Converts are better in Judaism, They are said to possess a "loftier" soul than born Jews.
ITS LIEK ANUDAH SHOAH
Absolutely, they come into the religion with love and faith on in besides those who were born in it.
I don't think that that makes any difference in itself. The problem is that Human beings tend to impose through cruelty, several types of violence and dishonesty, the new thing that they have become convinced of; that's the pattern we can see that mostly happened everywhere for thousands of years. Until we understand this, we will not allow a better world to be formed.
You can't CONVERT...must be BORN...ROMAN CATHOLIC LIE
Thankyou for putting forth all the efforts necessary in the making of this video. I also want to thank the brave participants for sharing their personal points of view.
"a common or a regular person" (insinuating he is from a long line of ultra-orthodox)
The caste system is alive and well amongst the ultra orthodox.
I learned that lama = why in Hebrew. Therefore it is the Dalai Why!
If you wish an upgrade to this. then Da is "Know" in Hebrew, and Li is "to me". So you might say Da Li Lama means know, to me, why... Or in other words: know why there's an Ego (:
assaf elron My god...
in arabic we say : lima or limatha : both mean : why .
@@books.reader.misbah limatha means under/down in Hebrew lol
dalai why and doctor who
These videos are helping me learn Hebrew.
Nef Nav I
Its Yiddish hebrew mix not original hebrew
Mike Mack yiddish is completly diffrent and is not spoken at all in israel. The hebrew language was modernized in the 20th centuary by eliezer ben-yehuda which added words that the hebrew language was missing (ice cream, doll, plane, car etc.) Other than that the hebrew language havent changed
Squirrel did you know that היא pronounced like 'he' means 'she' in Hebrew? 😏
BB Bostic don't you know there are people who know Hebrew and see how ignorant you are? Hebrew came with Jewish people from all over the world, written in the Tora in the same way more then 2000 years ego. My family came from Morocco and pray in the same language as Ashkenazi jews, Ethiopian or Iraqis Jews. What you have herd in the video is pure Hebrew with extra modern words. You welcome.
Thank you for making this video and showing such a diversity of view points. It certainly challenged my preconceptions about what a 'typical' Jewish person would think about this issue! We can all be quick to speak or argue our own opinions and convictions of right and wrong, but it's not easy to listen, and I enjoyed listening to the people interviewed here.
This is a great channel and great important questions, thanks! That's really opens mind!
He closed it with the perfect answer: Don't call me convert or Jew by choice. I am a Jew.
@MegaLordBroly One of the founding issues with Christianity was whether non-Jews were included. Jews were 'God's People' and the covenant was signed arguably only between them and God. Fortunately most Jews today are accepting of non-ethnic-Jews into the faith, and Christianity decided to allow non Jews into it.
@ANT BANKS Finally someone who readed the talmud and know their truth
@MegaLordBroly You can only convert to islam or christianity Judaism is more of a race issue when it comes to convertion how much blood of the kin of israel you have is the question
@ANT BANKS So the torah is wrong about converts? The hebrew scriptures tells us that Ruth, whose lineage leads to king David, was a converted woman, was she not a jew? If that is the case, was kind David a gentile? The torah also teach us that the messiah will be a descendent of the bloodline of David, but if David was a gentile, will the jewish messiah be a gentile? Or did David's gentile lineage mixed with ''true jews'' throughout the ages? Many jewish sages were also converts or sons of converts. Can you explain your point based in the torah?
@ANT BANKS ''the( ger) a stranger - converts - can never be a jew it's that simple'' Can you elaborate based in the teachings of the torah? '' rabbi's can't determine who can be one'' I did not based my argument upon any rabbi's claim or point of view. The story of Ruth is present in the torah. '' and there's nothing in the Torah that is wrong.. the Torah also says very clearly that there was and will be mixing of the bloodlines.'' Does not contribute to your point at all.
Does the second man know anything about where David the King came from?
OnedayataTime are you insinuating that king David was not a jew from birth? If so I'd like to know your viewpoints, thx!
volleyball9292 king David has Rahab in his line the cannanite Woman who helped the spies in Jericho
Salvador Ceja-Monroy Right but his father was a Jew, tracing the lineage from the mother was a traditional concept I thought not a biblical one.
@@volleyball9292 I know this comment is a year old already but no one responded so might as well. In challaha (biblical law) the lineage is always traced from mother. And as David is a descendant of Ruth, he is essentially born of a convert. Therefore the messiah (as he will born of the lineage of King David) will also be born from a convert.
@@penislord7525 interesting thanks for the response!
Being a good person isn't determined by what you believe or where you were born, but it depends on what you do, or what you don't do.
@Imam Abu Ali ibn Abi Mas'oud Two religious unrelated men walk into a bar. Both believe that it is wrong to steal because that is what their religion taught them. Both order two drinks. One man pays his bill and leaves. The other man refuses to pay for his drinks and leaves as well. One man did what he was supposed to do according to his believes, and one man didn't do what he was supposed to do according to his believes. For me it doesn't matter what both men believe. To me it matters what one man did and what the other man didn't do. And I don't care if that is in Belgium, or Dubai, or Caracas, or Tokyo, or Melbourne, or Rio de Janeiro And the same story goes for people who are not religious at all.
@Imam Abu Ali ibn Abi Mas'oud, wrong. Many atheists who believe nothing are better than many religious persons eg Muslims, Christians, Jews ect
That’s very true but the issue here what someone who’s born Jewish thinks of someone who converted to Judaism, NOT whether or not someone is a good person.
@@HotVoodooWitch It should not matter if someone is "converted" or not. That's the point. The fact that people think differently about converted people is already a sign that something is wrong with the community.
Do try to stay on point.
This is such a lovely video and it makes me so happy
You shall love the convert because you were strangers in the land of Egypt. (Deuteronomy 10:19) There is no commandment mentioned more times in the holy Torah than to love the converts!
@John Doe Good question, I'd like to know the answer as well
John Doe those are not mutually exclusive. In fact, the Talmud literally proves things from the written scripture, and it is considered a logical flaw if anything contradicts anything from the written scripture. The Talmud is the oral law, while the Written scripture is the law written and by God and interpreted by the early Rabbis.
James these people. Aren’t even real jews they are europen converts
@@antoniogutierrezjr3175 😂
Good work corey, your videos helping people like me to better understand Israeli society and bringing positive thoughts.
I find the human race truly depressing
Why? They all said nice things about converts and most said they would marry them.
@@jobansand I think you're missing the point.
Well it’s racist religion
@@iainprendergast8311 and what is that point? If I may press for more information
@@captain_qwerty2626 That everyone else is considered inferior if you're not a paid up member of the club
It seems to me that some of the people were having trouble formulating why they felt they wouldn’t marry a convert. It’s not that they think less of them, as they made clear that they didn’t. It was that it may be harder for them to relate to someone with such a different background.
No its because they're xenophobic
i feel what you were saying, a lot of them seemed to be struggling with an internal monologue while talking.
The matrix is breaking, almost. It's as if they feel that the info was infiltrated in their brains, not grown naturally.
@@shadebinder9969 don’t make assumptions
@@dynawesome it's not a assumption I was raised yeshivish
Thank you for asking my question! Was a fantastic video. I just returned from Israel where I was a little hesitant to say I was converting when asked if I was Jewish. People seemed so interested and asked heaps of questions! Cheers for the whole project they are amazing and I look forward to every new release.
@Google7 Google7 I have read the Torah, Bible, and Qu'ran. I respect all of our religions, but Muslims have a soft spot in my heart. You guys are such loving people and I love the fact that you guys accept Jesus Christ as your savior. Us Christians and Muslims are bound by Christ. GOD BLESS YOU 🤍
Thank you for sharing this video! I look forward to more questions "on the streets of Israel". Great job! :)
“You know that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action.” Prophet Muhammad final sermon
Peace be upon him
Yes, the Prophet said that. But I see most people not listening to this. Some places (in Muslim Majority countries) are totally against out of caste marriages. A man would prefer a actual dog as a suitable husband to his daughter if he believed it was of his caste. Then there is the issues of the Sayyads not marrying non-Sayyads in attempts of keeping their blood "pure". The Shia and Sunnis. Muslims in the matter of being racists and prejudiced towards certain classes, are no different than Jews.
Police be upon him
I converted 36 years ago, its not a easy process, most of my converen class were couples who were marring a Jewish person. For me it was because some how felt drawn to Judaism. Three years of studying. I have felt welcomed my my rabbi and members of my temple.
I don't find myself religious, but I really enjoyed this video. The fact that it was almost instinctual for everyone to say conversion is excellent is so powerful. As the one girl said, sometimes the convert is an even better religious person because they chose it for themselves and learned more than a "born Jew" might have.
Why wouldn't it be "instinctual", it's common sense
biggest mitzvah in Torah is to respect a gair tzedek convert...Ruth ,Rabbi Akiva,Onkelos ,Rab Meir in Talmud all converts....
A great insight, thank you :) Shalom
Wow. I find these videos so fascinating. I really appreciate getting to understand better how people think and feel. Thank you so much! I’m an American convert to Islam btw :) My uncle converted to Judaism to marry his wife also. He’s not religious though.
Hey sis❤ Welcome back to the true religion. InshaAllah I will see you in Jannah Al Firdous! I will pray for you and your family to be happy and content. May Allah protect and bless them. Ameen!
Alhamdulillah sister, love you for sake of Allah.
Your family dinners must be fun!
Alhamdulillah
@@taeijuan9899 what is jannah? I'm interested in the Islamic faith
Umm, Are not the Ashkenazi significantly European? Which means there were many converts in the wood pile...
Yoel Cohen So, to paraphrase, Ashkenazi have admixture with their host countries.(i,e,) you look German
+weallnonothing You are obsessed with Jewish genetics because deep down inside you think Jews are the master race
עומר Could be..After All they're the chosen ones. But seriously, I do respect the evolution of the jewish people, with a strong emphasis on iq and learning. But you seem to what to distance yourself from your european bloodline..
+Yoel Cohen So if one's Father is Jewish that does not automatically make them Jewish? As opposed to if one's Mother was Jewish.
+Kathleen Joyce According to Orthodox rabbinical Judaism, yes. The Reform Jewish movement accepts as Jews people with a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother without asking them to convert, but Orthodox Jews (and the Israeli chief rabbinate, which is Orthodox) will not accept such people as Jews, nor will they accept Reform conversions to Judaism as legitimate.
Yet another wonderful video. Very informative, and refreshingly positive towards converts.
The second man was not correct to see converts as not 100% Jewish. We are supposed to treat converts, widows and orphans with special care and consideration-that is a Jewish law. I think the reason why some orthodox jews wouldn't want to marry a convert is bc it can sometimes be hard to marry someone with a very different background to you. I wouldn't want to marry someone sefardi bc the background too different. That dosnt mean I don't see them as a full Jew.
Wow... 1000x Thank You! You have answered a question that has plagued me for many years, and always kept me from converting. I had no desire to be the ever desperate hangers-on, forever doomed to wanna-be status. The answers your people on the sidewalk gave were invariably genuine, heartfelt and immediate, given without any sense of guile or ulterior consideration. Very well then.
@@MikhailPoda yes, Jews aren't allowed to remind you of your conversion, which includes not using your former, non Jewish name. However it is appropriate to disclose during shidduchim, particularly as converts can't marry Cohanim. They have different soul roots (can't be true soulmates).
He forgot about RUTH who said your people shall be my people your G_D my G-D!
My name is Ruth :)
in your translation of בעלי תשובה, you translated it (2:04) as religious people, but it is mostly used in parlance for someone who was at some point not religious, who became religious
The pet analogy was hilarious 😂
6:30 We can all learn a lot from this girls attitude. This is real warmth, God bless her.
Yet they can't say that they don't care about their partner's religion. They actually like the idea of submitting to their culture and assimilation in the name of love.
Clarify
5:10 The guy is a blue-eyed ginger Ashkenazi and still believes all his ancestors are originally from the Middle East. Wonderful!
Alphonse Duponey Ahed Tamimi is blonde haired and blue eyed, your point is null.
Anyone of any race or ethnicity can have red hair. Aboriginals, Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners... it's the result of a gene mutation, which anyone can have. It's just more common with Europeans for a lot of reasons that would take too long to get into. Malcolm X is a good example of a black person who was a natural ginger.
@@jodishapiro6733 Sure, there is another blond child living out there, so here's the master proof the whole lineage of that guy is 100% from the Middle Eastern Hebraic tribes. Seems obvious now. Where had my mind gone?
@@halaagmod Absolutely! That guy has grown ginger hair thanks to a genetic mutation that can happen everywhere to any people. The fact that this guy's ancestors spent a significant part of their live surrounded by pale blue-eyed ginger fellows like them in central Europe must be seen as a simple coincidence only, nothing more. No need to make stories, you're absolutely right.
@@Toto8opus If you don't believe me literally just do any bit of research on the MC1R gene and how it affects the appearance of an individual when there's a mutation. I'm not making shit up solely to try and start fights like you're intent on trying to do and it's not worth my time to have to explain it to someone who's too intolerant to actually care.
I really pity those Hasidic guys: that fur and clothes under that sun.
Hello,IT’S RELIGIOUS,stop hating on the Jews,because it is a traditional for them to wear that!!So if you see someone wearing a hijabi or a hijab you will make FUN OF THEM!!!NO,that IS NOT RIGHT!!!Ok so you better read and know why they wear those “fur and clothes under that sun”.First they HAVE TO WEAR FREAKING CLOTHES,DO YOU WANT THEM TO BE NAKED,probably not.SO STOP AND GET A LIFE!!
Don't pity what you don't know, I have respect for the Hasidic.
So many people here spewing hate about others. Love is the law.
You all need to stop throwing around hate and read the Torah to remind yourself who you are and what you are supposed to stand for.
@@mychloebaby1 mizrahi jews have fair skin too. They had to wrap themselves in shawls to protect themselves from the sun.
As a convert myself, I have to say that I have met with nothing but welcome and acceptance in the Jewish community.
Welcome! Jews are not allowed to undertake missionary work and try to convert others. So if you converted on your own will we will always accept and treat you equal. It's really great and congrats!
Progressive judaïsme 😂
No you’ll say you have ancestors in brown people land 😂 story of israel in a nutshell
"we will accept and treat you equal", you understand that you're not doing him a favor. that's a basic human right regardless of the religion@@ren2871
@@ren2871have you ever wondered why they’re not allowed to do missionary work? It’s because they believe in ethnic superiority. The religion is racist in its core. Unlike Christians and Muslims who (in their intentions) try to help all humans because they genuinely believe in helping people achieve a good afterlife and not suffer. Judaism cares about bloodlines
I am Orthodox Christian. My mom and dad are Orthodox Christians. My lovely grandparents were Orthodox Christians, so were my beloved grand-grandparents too. Would I be welcome to join Judaism as an adult? Thank you. Peace and Love.
anyone can and is welcome to join the Jewish people. Your family background is irrelevant. What matters is your willingness, sincerity and determination. Throughout history the Jewish nation has been enriched by converts- men and women who opted to enter the covenant and become part of the Jewish people
Of course!
Rabbi Akiva, great sage came from converts.
Quote from Maimonides: “Loving the convert who has taken refuge (lit., ‘came and entered’) beneath the wings of the Divine Presence [comprises] two positive obligations, one because he is included in ‘fellowship’ (and so is included in the obligation to love one’s fellow as himself (Levit. 19:18)), and two because he is a convert and the Torah said, ‘You shall love the convert’ (Deuteronomy 10:19). [The Torah] commanded to love the convert as it commanded to love G-d (lit., ‘His Name’), as it is stated, ‘And you shall love the L-rd your G-d’ (Deut. 6:5). G-d Himself loves converts, as it is stated, ‘...and loves [the] convert’ (ibid., 10:18).”
Thank you so much for clarification . I need primary sources like these for my school/uni project. Is there a verse or a line from the Torah or Talmud which clarifies the Cohen dilema . ( clarified by Corey at minute 1.39, stating that "COHEN CANNOT MARRY A CONVERT". ).
@@stephenharper7044 not in the Torah and I don't think there is anything in the Talmud either. Moses married a convert. The levitical restrictions on cohanim (that nowadays are not really observed, even by the religious Jews) is not marrying a divorcee or a woman of "illegitimate birth". But if they do, nothing really happens as there is no temple and the temple "purity laws" do not apply
It seems to me that everyone here is accepting and supportive of genuine converts. Hasidic Jews just prefer to marry someone that was raised in a hasidic environment. Ultra-Orthodox Judaism is pretty hard core and I don't see a reason why it's bad that they wouldn't want to marry someone who isn't totally engrained in that lifestyle.
So honest !!! So Beautiful!!! I thank HaShem that I am a Convert!!!!
Bless you, Shana Tova
Fun video on a serious matter. Excellent!
I really like your work.
I like your pic
Very interesting. Thank you for doing this.
An interesting question, or even a variation of every question you ask, would be "how do you think other [jews/arabs/whoever] would answer this question?". I think *that* answer could be even more telling.
When the sample group is 10-12 people out of millions it cant be telling anything (Statistics 101).
This gave me so much hope. Thank you ❤
Talk to other converts if you can.
i'm no jew but i like these clips. very good cross-section of all types of israeli Jews. i'd like to visit sometime. mazzeltov 😀
Actually I don't think there's enough representation to secular jews. Most of the people here are on the religious side, very few are truly secular and none at all are atheists or close. The truth is that there's a big majority of secular and mostly atheist jews in Israel who would probably answer "I couldn't care less what anybody does with their religion". I expected to see some of that as well, but I guess going after these people for this kind of question is a bit mundane and would get some boring results. :)
Alon Tako yea no real point asking them
They had what the talmud says Do this in closed doors abd watch the jews
It's very nice there
This idea of genetic purity, is inherently racist in my view and made up. My experience is people who convert to any faith , they tend to better people and follow the teachings of that faith more precisely without prejudice. Most 'selective' groups tend to just be about part of an elite. From a theological viewpoint, only God decides who is good, not people not religious leaders. My secular view is, actions determine whether you are good or not. Not belonging to any groups, faith or ideology. To say otherwise is extreme arrogance and will lead to eugenics issues, in my view Especially when they view groups as sub human. Our European history is already bloody with the atrocities of mad men who espoused such ideas. Let's not entertain such thinking for the sake of humanity. All human beings have rights, I don't care what faith you proclaim, what race, what nationality, what colour. If you believe in an ideology or theological belief, that is your right, and you have the right to practice it in peace and security without discrimination, but your liberty ends where my liberty starts. Religious law can only be applied to people who follow that faith, no one else. And that does not make people right. Its a belief, to be respected, but not accepted. To do otherwise would open up us to accepting anyone making up their own religion and imposing it on others. Europe had and has enough problems with this type of thinking.
Religion is a blight on humanity. It is used to control people and "justify" abhorrent behavior.
@@dugnice I agree with your sentiment. However having travelled the world, lived abroad, met and stayed with people of all colour, enthicity, faith/non faith. My view is actions determine whether you are good or not. Not a faith or ideology. Politicians, far right/far left ideologies are used to control and brainwash to hate others, commit atrocities. Genetic purity, religion , white supremacists was used in German 1930s to commit evil. Facisist ideologies were used in South America by the CIA to install dictatorships or cause civil uprisings. Communism (Stalin)Lenin, Soviet Union) used far left ideologies to murder millions. ..........it's all about elites and power, war and money... religion is used as a pretext ......I have no issue if people want to follow a faith, but I treat people who respect my liberty and I will respect theirs.......this is about humanity......
@@tahu1349 You're 100% right. I've recently started to dig into the history of religions and I'm always surprised and delighted to find how political they really are, when you restore their contemporary contexts. It makes for a great insight. (Also if only politics nowadays could be half as eloquent as then, now it's all just worldwide flood covered by the government this and stick a rock in your hoo-haa to detox that.)
@Yechiel Shulman I think that is over simplifying it and is an incorrect interpretation. Marrying within a tribe or sect is driven by a perceived assumption. If it was secular based, then you can say it's cultural or lifestyle. When religious based, particularly when is ultra orthodox, particularly with certain faith groups , the historical context they use, it's used as a genetic purity issue. I have seen it secular and religious groups in my travels. There are always exceptions. It's rarely about lifestyle.
@@neoqwerty organized nationalistic religions are just as dangerous as nationalistic secular ideologies, when they trample on the human rights of individuals or groups. Politicians , the arms industry and banks look them. Religions are a cash cow to the miltary complex and allow politicians to keep you hating an enemy and blame them , thereby distracting you and controlling the populus. I am amazed how even the most basic ten commandments are not even followed. 'Thou shall not kill'...yet that is exactly what they encourage you to do. An individual is responsible for their own actions. And we should teach children that. Your liberty ends where another person's liberty starts. You have human rights, but you have a responsibility to your neighbor as well. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Don't steal. Respect property etc..I see less and less humanity , compassion, and kindness....and politicians seem to want this, and they are the most corrupt evil and self serving bunch I have ever seen.
Very beautiful energy they have in these kinds of interactions.
I like the older gentlemen in the 7th minute. He gave some great insight. I would have loved to have heard more from him. Shalom!
The ultra orthodox guy is the most revealing because he has highlighted what is commonplace in the Jewish world, namely converts are not really truly accepted. His juxposition with criminals and animals says a lot.
+FlowerPowerNZ This is true for the whole world, but it's not PC to say it. I mean come on some immigrant walking around in Norway who has never skied in their life, make women cover themselves, talks Norwegian like 7 y/o even after decades and mutilates baby boys is not actually Norwegian and will never be.
norwegian isnt a religion dickhead. horrible comparison.
mysticx0 Jews considers themselves a culture, religion and race so go fuck yourself.
allolp it isnt about that because your comparison was to a nationality. nice attempt at dodging but again you fucking fail.
allolp lol you still dont get it! you cant convert to norwegian! lmao! fail again.
You know, as Muslims we usually praise reverts (we say reverts because everyone is born Muslim) saying they actually have stronger iman (faith) due to the fact they chose to study and follow the religion on their own accord instead of being raised with it.
Not everyone is born Muslim.
@@darius349 we muslims do believe so. Thats why if a child dies, he will go to heaven. Cuz everyone born muslim
@@soufyanvv7607 In my opinion, that's wrong. I respect what you believe though. It doesn't sound logical to me.
That's a very arrogant belief
@@vikasshukla4553 who ask for your opinion bruh?
About the guy who made the analogy about adopting a pet… I honestly didn’t think he was comparing converts to animals. It seemed as if he was comparing adopting a pet to conversion. A huge responsibility that you should only do if you’re prepared for it. It was a fair metaphor imo
I am leaning towards Judaism . I seem to feel more comfortable listening to a Rabbi than to a catholic priest.
That's because you don't speak Hebrew.
tFighterPilot I don't think so
you can't be jewish. being jewish is an ethnic/cultural/historic (emphasis on historic) designation. religion is bullshit and elaborate rituals will never make you a person who has generations of jewish history and hebrew in their family. it is actually extremely insulting to me that someone thinks they can clumsily read out of an ancient book and then they somehow share my ethnicity, culture, family history, language, etc... it makes literally no sense. For example while there are converts in Israel (generally spouses of authentic, born jews) the state was created for ETHNIC JEWS as a save haven from anti semitism (which is based on ETHNICITY). there is a misconception on what it means to be jewish these days. While ultra orthodox jews actually believe there is a god, etc... most Jews do not and simply adhere to the ethnic and cultural history of their family and country. So "believing" something would not make you Jewish in the eyes of the vast majority of jews and israelis. can I say a bunch of words in whatever native language you grew up speaking and now im a member of your ethnicity? da fuq?
+no newnames that is not your business
Guess that depends, I know a lot of really relaxed, really nice Catholic priests. I've also seen other videos of Corey's where the Rabbi's are really, really conservative and non accepting on certain viewpoints. Like with everything, it's about the individual.
Thank you for this video, I'm sometimes feeling a little bit like I may be "starting" a long journey in the end of which I may still not be fully accepted. I know you do not qualify yourself as jewish anymore and it must make you feel extremely weird to get comments just like mine from converts and future converts, but I think you're more working on tolerance and love on your channel than anything else, and, in the name of countless others, I have to thank you for this too. It doesn't seem much to you, but your videos are helping me, and probably others too, a lot ! In my case, your channel helps me on three points : a. it remotivates me b. it makes me believe there is a solution possible to the israeli-palestinian conflict c. it helps me in learning hebrew (pronunciation, syntax,...) and basically shows me how it is outside of the prayers I read everyday! So, please, keep up the good work, and thank you infinitely for everything !
Astrid I’m here with you on the same Journey. Good luck.
Astrid Absolutely!
Have you finished the process yet?
The second guy demonstrates how Judaism is not purely a religion.
it's never been purely a religion. It's a peoplehood, and anyone can join the Jewish people.
What a great video!
Interesting, so I was born in Poland to a Jewish father (100% Jewish on both sides, grandmother and grandfather, but highly secular) who in his 20s converted to Catholicism to please the family of my Polish Catholic mother (as the family was very traditional). Now, this does not make me Jewish because it only counts from the mother's side, AND my father, who is technically Jewish, converted to Catholicism. I am nonetheless interested in Judaism and have visited Israel many times (in fact my dad had 3 sisters whose children ARE still Jewish according to Halakha and 1 lives in Israel, married to an Israeli and they have 5 kids - my cousins, oh and by the way I have permanent residence permit from Israel). However, I personally would be unlikely to convert because my mother's family have specifically emphasized the importance of me remaining Catholic/Christian as I was baptized. For me personally, this situation is bizarre and funny at the same time. I love who I am, really.
Mk Dw Sm you just like the other converted so called jews most of them have Nothing to do with semite arabs are the one who are 100% semitic
Being a Christian,means you have progressed to the truthfulness and fact
@@rabihcorban2224 cringe
Its the pure in the heart that does matter and your part to god & the world.
You’re not Jewish.
I'm going before the beit din on lag b'omer, for conversion. I was pleasantly surprised with the attitudes of these people. I think it would be different if you asked haredi outside Israel though. BTW; I'm proud of my background, and I'm happy where I'm going. Shalom. Kia Kaha.
+otumoetaipat Good luck !
+otumoetaipat hey you seem to be Maori are you in NZ? I'm a Maori looking to convert as well could I ask how you got started with your conversion? Because I've been interested in Judaism for the past few months, learning Hebrew and speaking to more Jews but I'm super nervous. Are you having to go to Sydney or are you able to convert in NZ?
ArrantFrost g'day! i'm not maori, but am from NZ originally. i'm converting with the reform movement in north london. if you are interested in it, i would recommend going to local synagogues for shabbat, see which one you like, i don't know how much choice you'll have in nz? it's been a very interesting journey for me so far, there's lots of resons to convert, but make sure you think it through first, because it's not easy,. good luck! let me know how you get on.
ad hominemus well thats one perspective.....
ad hominemus there you go again..... ps, get a thesaurus
Chag purim sameach Umevorakh💜
I am showing my ignorance right now but what was that large fuzzy hat the guy in the pin stripe was wearing? It was neat but looked hot for the weather so it looks significant to him in some way.
As a convert myself I find this video to be very interesting.I always get positive feedback from other jews and I love being Jewish
I know this message is over 3 years ago but I myself am thinking of converting
@@ux3476 just out of interest, why? why Judaism over other religions?
@@xminteee300 It just made more sense to me, and am in love with its culture, history and way of life
@@ux3476 I am converting too! i have some family who is jewish and i’ve felt so connected to it and called to it in my life. i’m only 15, but i’m in the process of training. you can’t truly convert until your 18 but i am super excited! good luck to you (if you decide to convert)!
@@ux3476 good luck!
The part about pet care was totally on point.
Great video, topic really interesting and applicable to any other religions conversion. Thanks
I think what the one man was trying to say about marrying converts to converts is that there’s a difference in culture there. As someone who’s been practicing and trying to do all the things, it’s a COMPLETELY different culture and we get things wrong every single day. Lol. It really is hard!
im converting, and clicking on this video and watching it made me very happy, that people from Jerusalem are pretty supportive of converts
There are always close minded people but we love you.
Yet they won’t let their kids marry you... Judaism is a racist religion.
John Smith except for the Orthodox, there is a high amount of intermarriage in the Jewish community. A Reform, Reconstructionist or Conservative Jew would have no problem marrying someone who converted or is Christian. And there are Orthodox Jews who marry converts. Look at Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump.
Don't judge religion by it's followers Judge it by the holy book Did you read talmud to know the truth
@@nurousek123 Plenty of Jews marry converts including Orthodox Jews, as long as they are sure that the convert was sincere and they undertook all the obligations of the religion. Some very closed ultra-Orthodox sects discourage marrying a convert and it's rare in those sects for such marriages to happen, like one of them said, if a convert tries to join their community they encourage the convert to marry another convert instead of marrying someone born and raised within the sect. But likewise if a secular Jew, born to a Jewish family but raised irreligious, and then who becomes religious, tries to join their sect, they will also try to pair that person off with another newly religious person or perhaps a convert. These ultra-Orthodox extreme sects don't represent the majority of Orthodox Jews though, and even with these communities there are converts hwo occasionally join and marry born members of the sect (although usually it's to someone who is divorced or has some other "skeleton in the closet" and whose "worth" has come down). Back in the 1960s there was a very big rabbi, the leader of the extreme anti-Zionist sect Neturei Karta who married a French convert from Catholicism, after he became widowed. His followers didn't like it much though, but he did it anyway. But in the Modern Orthodox Jewish communities, both in the USA and in Israel, people marrying converts are not uncommon.
*RUTH...was a CONVERT to Judaism....and from her came the prophets, King David, King Solomon and the Son of God,* *"Yeshua Hamashiach ben David, Shevet Yehudah, ben-haElohim."* *(Jesus Christ of the House of David of the tribe of Judah, the Son of God.)*
And Rahab too (Rahab and Salmon where the parents of Boaz..)
And, most importantly, Yeshua.
Actually no, there were no organized religion called Judaism at that time.
@@yooaab In the Bible, God refers to Himself as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob ( Who was later named Israel) So the worship of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the religion. The chosen nation began with Abraham and was fulfilled in Jesus the Messiah.
@@jbcfamily4802 not at all. You will not find the Word judaism or religion in the Turah. And no Jesus did not fulfill anything even though im not a jew. The jews took the concept of a messiah figure from babylon.
The part where he asked the guy if he would let his children marry a convert and he said no….I totally understand their point…I converted when I was 19 and over the years i would date secular Jews and conservative Jews and they’d ghost me the next day once they found out that I’m a convert. I didn’t spend thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours studying Judaism and living with 5 different families to observe Shabbat and the high holidays just to be rejected by the Jewish community……like my Rabbi says “”once a Jew, always a Jew””. I was soon blessed to find a guy that accepted me as a convert and I plan to raise our children into Judaism like I was taught
I've always respected Jewish religion because it has never made any kind of proselitism. If someone wants to join the Jewish religion, the convertion must come from him, not from outside. That means tollerance and that's why I consider Jewish culture a pillar for Western world.
Orthodox Christianity also NEVER proselitize
I really think it's not so much to do with converts being seen as less Jewish as it is a preference for spouses who also come from Jewish families, given the importance of family ties in religious circles. Also, the comment about Sephardim wasn't referring to ethnicity, seeing as there is a religious (and as such cultural) difference between Chassidic, Lithuanian and Sephardic Jews in the ultra-Orthodox community. You'll often find that Ashkenazi Chassidim won't marry Ashkenazi Litvaks.
In Judaism, everyone is a convert to YHVH-monotheism. The very meaning of the word Hebrew means to "cross over". Jewry is not a race but a multitude of different ethnic types who have since the dawn of YHVH-centered-monotheism till present times kept converting from their ancestral faiths to Judaism.
These people are pleasant enough, like many living under religious authority. It’s when you get higher into their leadership that the control and hostility becomes more apparent.
kinda neat you interviewed that lady in tel aviv... I have cousins that live there and had the chance to visit... nice place, friendly people...
Quote from Maimonides: "Whenever any of the gentiles convert and accept all of the mitzvot in the Torah they are considered as Jews with regard to all matters, as [Numbers 15:15] states: "For the community: there will be one law [for you and the convert]." A convert may marry within the Jewish community immediately, i.e., a male convert may marry a native-born Jewess and an Israelite may marry a female convert."
Schalom ,I'm Muslim but I love the people from Israel so much. !!! :-)
MW Adam they don't love you back so shut up
We love you back, Don't listen to the haters bro!
+HajjahYemen Thank you for your message bro ! I will never listen to the disgusting haters ! I can't understand and I will not understand why stupid haters hate jews .
MW Adam I love them, too. It's really sad that people don't know that zionists and jews are not the same.
Over 1 million muslims live peacefully in Israel :)
Isn't Itzhak at 5:08 supposed be a student of Torah? How come his answer is "I don't know" to so many questions?
9:19 the level of disdain in those eyes... wow
Shalom from a נוצרי! ❤ I love Israel from my heart & soul! I pray for it that the beautiful from יהוה choosen country will stay strong against all enemies! ❤☝Love you Israel! ❤
+Castile 1956 ^^ What this guy said
Christianity is pretty much Judaism02. No offense meant.
yeaa keep killing people and say that you have a lot of enemies
@@ThunderK01 i agree
Bless you
Just about everyone made it very clear: we don't have anything against true gerim.
I do. you cannot be jewish by saying elaborate word out of the torah. my great grandparents did not flee poland because of religious belief.
im sure your greatparents didnt want you to have something against anyone just because they are not like you. i guess they flee because that reason exactly.
+no newnames 1.your grandparents fled because of bias and discrimination from people like you 2. Many Polish Jews are descendants of Khazars (a Turkic tribe that converted to Judaism in the 8th century, and after its offspring spread to Eastern Europe), converted Slavs and Romans, and so one. Actually they are the group of Jews who look less Semitic in my opinion. 3. If you read the Torah, you would conclude that the main requirement for joining the Israelite nation is accepting it. There wasn't a thing like "Jewish people" before the Sinai. And this is not about religion, but every aspects.
That's what they say, but in the next sentence define "true gerim [converts]" in a self-serving manner.
Matheus Bahia no evidence has ever concluded in even a single Ashkenazi Jew having any Khazar ancestry
See, Jews basically are the descendants of twelve sons of Jacob. Abraham was the grandfather of Jacob. Isaac was Jacob's father. But that that doesn't mean that almost every Jew is a pure descendant of the twelve sons of Jacob. In the old testament, there is a record of non Jew converting to Judaism. In the city of Moab there lived a widow named Naomi. Her daughter in law, Ruth was a non Jew. She converted to Judaism. She said that she wanted her mother in law's God to be her God. She said that she wanted her mother in law and that she would go and live in Canaan
Re: 1:10- 1:35. Wow, I'm a Baltechuva and since I've come into the religious community in nyc I have not ever heard anyone say that a genuine convert is not 100% Jewish.
as a daughter of a convert (and married to the son of one) i am offended by the second interviewee. FYI my husband said that what he said that converts aren't 100% jewish isn't true. third guy had interesting things to say, and i'll give a pass to the chassidish guys, they wouldn't marry a non-chassidic ashkenazi girl. probably never laid eyes on a convert (a girl anyway).
+Notmy Realname , BS
+Notmy Realname , grow up, you moron.
i know. it's funny how people always think of Judaism as a race, or ethnic group, when it totally isn't, we are a nation of all races. anyway, my mother is Jewish from birth, a bas Levi even.
BH,yoel.
Shema, Israel, Adon-ai is one.
I'm a twelve year old muslim girl and I really want to convert to judisam when I'm older I still love islam but it's not the religon for me does anyone have advice about how to pray the Jewish way I just want to now as much as I can about this amazing religion and all the guidelines.
All 3 major religions are abrahimic ,if you donot know about your own religion then you cannot understand the other 2.so my advice for you to know about your own religion 1st,not just sayings of Mullas and so called religious scholars, the best is Quran with translation
You're either some rss troll or really dumb troll.
Bless your soul, God will guide you ....
5:42 the striped jackets look so cool!
Bro please sort out the subtitles
Im a Muslim & I thought Jews don't accept the converts. Because they think they are the chosen people which is not true. But this video cleared many things. It's good.
Sorry to say but Abraham was not a Jew They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah." (Surah Al-Baqara, 135) Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding? (Surah Al-Imran, 65) Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah.s (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah. (Surah Al-Imran, 67) Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For Allah did take Abraham for a friend. (Surah An-Nisa’, 125) Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Messenger and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith. (Surah Al-Imran, 68)
Abraham was Not jew.prophet moses he is your prophet and mohammed he is my prophet ln the torah there is no jewish word?
not too much 80/100
The Torah is distorted
All you questions you will You'll find it
not sure if you noticed but all your videos have double subtitles
And they are pretty annoying!!
Click on the 'CC' (subtitles/ closed captions) icon on the bottom right corner of the screen. That will turn off one set of subtitles leaving the embedded ones intact.
Moise battino You have to turn off your own subtitles on KZhead.
As a Gentile, I really believe there are a lot of important and beautiful lessons in Judaism. However, it is so tightly tied to a culture and history which simply doesn’t resonate for most non-Jews. I believe that culture and history plays an important part in its ties to Judaism for Jews. I wish there was a way to make the universal lessons more accessible to non-Jews.
I'm with you for the first bit but I'm not so sure I'd like "universal lessons" in their history to be all that accessible.
@@walterrowe3410 could you say more on that?
@@briannewman9285 God forbid we HAVE to learn some of the lessons that the Jewish people had to - that's what I'm getting at. To be such a persecuted and despised minority in so many nations (for no good reason whatsoever) for so long must have been truly awful.
when you convert, you join the jewish people, their culture and history. It becomes yours as you become a part of the jewish people in far more sense than just religious practices. You can see it as naturalization. In the past, the converts basically assimilated into the jewish culture and rarely, if at all kept any aspects of the gentile culture. In modern times it is different of course and cultures are mixed to a certain extent anyway. But if the jewish culture and history do not resonate with you at all, I'm not sure why would you want to convert and join the jewish people then. There is an interesting correspondence between one Obadiah, a 12th century convert from Islam, and Maimonides, a prominent philosopher and influential Jewish scholar in the Middle Ages who lived in Spain, Morocco, Egypt and Palestine. Obadiah wrote several letters to Maimonides, asking about the status of the convert in Judaism. Could he say the parts of prayer that refer to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as his forefathers? Could he thank God for having taken “us” out of Egypt or thank God for not having made him a gentile? (not that there is anything bad about being a gentile)-all parts of the standard prayer liturgy. Maimonides replied to his letters, assuring him that he could. As a full-fledged member of the Jewish nation, Obadiah was just as much a descendant of our forefathers, and heir to the Jewish tradition, as any other Jew.
Why?
Alhamdollilah, so blessed to be a muslim.. No race, color matters, or even if you a revert, the only thing matters is how Allah consciuos a muslim is, how muc he fears Allah (God).. I feel judaism is more of a race than religion
Yeah sure... black muslims would disagree, thats all on paper, or should I say back in the days of the profit, today its a different story. I grew up in a golf state and I get shivers each time I meet someone from there
Not true, anyone can convert to Judaism as long as they accept all the laws. Unfortunately fake converts give us (real converts) a bad name
@@truehope2344 yea thats why more black Muslims and women especially from the west are reverting to islam these days.. Why would they accept a religion tht oppresses them.
@@truehope2344 can't even use the right "Prophet". Shows how intelligent you are...
@@truehope2344 Actually I understand your argument so I kind of agree and disagree with you.. Agree: There is still to this day racism based on color, and even slavery (especially in the GOLF area but also in other parts in the middle east).. However I do disagree with (It is all in paper) as the prophet in Islam (Mohamed) literally said in a very very detailed Hadeeth "statement" (An Arab is not better than a foreigner/nonArab, and a foreigner is not better than an Arab, and neither is a white man better than a black man, nor a black man is better then a white man, except by devotion, and we all came from Adam and Adam came from dust).. Now I am not sure what is your own beliefs but the prophet words strengthen the fact that there is literally no difference in Muslims backgrounds/ancestry, keep in mind that this hadith came at a time when slavery was very prominent and Arabs culturally had (and still kind of have some of them )some strong tribal values, hence why Mohamed emphasized there is no difference at all.. But I do agree that sadly there are still some people who do otherwise and think they are better.. P.S. I identify as Arab