Since he had it banned, you've been asking to see it. Here it is.
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Been waiting a long time for this one. Glad you posted it!
Thank you for posting this video. You were not too hard on him. I am not a fan of watches laced with diamonds either, but but apparently there is a market for people who love it.
You were very respectful to Producer Michael as a person. You gave your opinions on his collection. You have different taste. You both appreciate watches and the work that it takes to create a timeless masterpiece. The copyright strike sound like someone him or in his camp got their feelings hurt on someones else's opinion when they should stay in their lane. If you put it out for the world to see opinions and critiques are part of the territory. Thank you for this and I hope this one stays up this time.
I have to say one does and one does not.
PM’s collection is the collection of someone who started broke remember that for him it started as status to look rich wasn’t looking for Subtlety he likes factory stones only now so he learned as he went he has memories with all the bust downs now so hard to give up something you once loved and made you feel better I like his stuff let’s be real poker night with the guys would be kool to bring out some kool looking watches I get it they have ruined some but I’m sure he has original one as well and to be honest his collection is so much more fun to watch for a viewer must people got ten Rolex and a couple Royal oaks and some dress watches and that’s about it
Looks like a difference of opinion, O repeatedly emphasizes this "it's not my cup of tea" or "it's not my kind of thing" etc. Aside from the bare differences in opinion, it may have been O's emoting, including laughter, and exclamations that rubbed PM the wrong way.
.... What a lot words , are you swallow to much RITALIN ??
‘I dont think I have enough alcohol left in the house to get through this!’ Just a brilliant TWC quote! 😂
Producer Michael is living his best life. Good for him. He also gives the impression that he shares a certain love for the objects. He also appreciates the attention..
One of the first few videos I watched after subscribing. I thought it was a great video. Some criticism on the watches but lots of respect giving to PM. I did buy his cologne btw. Lots of compliments on it. Keep up the good work. Most watch channels are about themselves and not the watches. That’s why I enjoy your videos, it’s about the watches and presenter second. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
You were very respectful and friendly during your review and I’m shocked he took offence with it. A copyright strike was a terrible decision and he probably owes you an apology. One thought, he may have been offended by your use of the word ‘Rape’ to describe his watches; that word is very offensive to many and is often misused. Thanks for the content.
He comes from the music industry, his collection is as near to completely tasteless rapper bling as is possible. The word ''rape'' is completely at home within that scenario.
@@kingsnurglegurglesonthevik4517this is entirely false, no one I know in the music business is comfortable with the word or the concept at all.
. @Ds92817 My wife did one tour with Smashmouth as a roadie, setting up the stage between gigs. She would tell you a very different story of what she saw going on in the music industry, date grape drugs were rife. I've also known and seen a ''musician'' using such things profusely.
You did it well! You talked about his watches and everyone has their own opinion, mine the same btw Great video, as always!
I don't understand why he'd have this removed. This is a great video, Oisin! I really enjoyed your commentary about the watches and some extra insights. Hopefully it stays up this time. Thank you for reposting!
I remember it the first time around and to be honest, I think you went easy on him! Great video.
The thing is... Michael lives in a completely different world to most of us. He is obviously super wealthy, and that has enabled his natural eccentricity to evolve in whichever way he chooses... and along with it his tastes. He is clearly a super nice guy though. I sometimes watch his channel, not because I like his watches, but because it is like an anthropological study. His wealth and eccentricity have shaped his tastes and so I just shrug my shoulders. I mean, I think gold and diamonds make a watch look less refined, not more expensive, but that's just my taste and I don't know the criteria that Michael uses to judge a watch. What I would LOOOOOOOOVE Michael to do, if you are out there reading Michael, is a video covering what criteria you look for in a watch... so we can understand what your tastes are, rather than judging them from the perspective of our own tastes. Then I would be able to appreciate better where Michael is coming from and join in on his enthusiasm more. And by the way, I don't like Oison's tastes in watches either. I find Rolex as boring as dog turds... but I love the other watches he covers, I love just hanging out with Oison as he chats about watches and life, and I enjoy the style and intelligence of his videos and video editing. His Panerai and Interstellar videos are little masterpieces. Maybe one day Oison, you can explain at a deeper level what you like about Rolex.
as my father would say "owning a rolex is a sign that you follow the crowd rather than lead it" my father was never fond of cheap watches, he always wore jlc and patek, myself, i wear a grand seiko sowflake, costs as much as a basic rolex but is vastly more classy, only rolex i own is a cellini, because they are honestly great
@@bigfrankfraser1391your father sounds like a spoiled brat.... If he grew up with nothing do you know what a Rolex represents? ... What a lame statement
You both have different tastes in watches , you did a great honest job.
No, you were fair and gentle. Love it.
I saw this when you first released it, I thought back then and can now confirm you didn’t say anything out of turn, in fact you were very complimentary of the person, plus it was quite funny to be honest. Isn’t this what YT wants ?
well said
There are pimps and rappers out there who see Producer Michael’s watch collection and think, “Nah. That’s too much for me”. The guy has such tacky taste for a man his age and with such level of wealth.
But that's Hollywood, Beverly Hills all over, people there are bonkers and rich, so this creates people like Michael, he is fairly normal for where he lives
I have not a clue how they threw a strike at you for making this. I thought this was extremely well done. Well mannered. And very honest and fair. Rattzo was insulting and his video and that was kept up. I don't understand it. But anyway I really enjoyed this. You should do an updated reaction video on PM. And maybe some other collections too. Hearing your take and ideas is always world class.
I subscribe to both of your channels for different reasons. But what you both have is a sincerity and I really cannot see anything for Michael to object too; he certainly never comes across as over sensitive in his videos, so not sure what he could have taken offence to. I thought your perspective was entirely reasonably presented and respectful, while honest👍
Good to see the infamous video after hearing about it for a while. I think it is pretty clear that Producer Michael and I won't be fighting over the same watches in future. He has the occasional watch in his collection that I might be interested in owning, but for the most part, not my taste. As to whether or not he was right to be offended... tough call. Obviously you (Oisin) were a little acerbic at times. I personally can't disagree with much of what you said, but I can imagine that someone who is personally/emotionally invested in their collection, could be hurt. We all like it better when something we like is liked by others. I have a huge spot in my collection devoted to Panerai. Not everyone likes Panerai, I get that. Could I be okay with someone ripping apart my favourites, maybe. I'm quite active in the watch community. I often see people who are proud of a watch that my inside voice is going, "Oh hell no". My outside voice usually tries to find something nice to say about it. Though that would make for a really dull reaction video.
I liked this video the first time it was played and then it disappeared, keep up the great content
I totally agree with your review of this gentleman’s watches, some amazing pieces overstated with diamonds, you were honest and probably held back a lot of your thoughts, a good assessment though, baz.
Now I need a drink as well. A strong drink. Nothing wrong with your comments, definitely not too harsh. I could literally feel your pain.
Producer Michael just keeps it real !! He is, who he is!! His style makes life fun !!
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Keeps it real lol he the most fake guy on KZhead lol 😂 WOW some people hey!!!??
@@darrenfry4695 take a step back man being a hater is cringe af
@@AltoAtik that's not hating that facts.. LoL 😂 if you think that's hating will all thats happening in the world today you ain't got a clue. Wow !!!
@@darrenfry4695 look how easy you get upset you might be the problem lol
Watched a fair few of your videos but never seen this before . I thought it was a straight shooting, non offensive thoughtful review of someone else's collection and I agree with virtually everything you said ....and I noticed him bantering back with Nico..can't understand why he would find it offensive because it's all about opinions ... Enjoyed the video ! Thank you
this guy is the epitome of money doesnt buy you taste
And who are you actually talking about?
Wot money?
I assume we’re talking about Oisin…. Have to agree Just because you’re polite, doesn’t mean you’re not still acting like a smug asshole
@@JoaoGomes-ce4th he’s talking about Producer Michael of course
I would rather have the money than good taste. Taste is what other people see. The money buys the things you like. Who cares what other people think, they aren’t that important.
Every video producer Michael puts out,he shows respect to everyone,He should also receive the same…
Nah
@@ms.bunniesarecute2287 great response that.
Yes indeed, respect…
Thank you👍
Not entirely true . He does criticise certain things , makes and models , what he likes and dislikes occasionally . We all do that
These diamond encrusted Pateks remind me of a reptile shedding its old skin. There’s real beauty hidden under that crap! I remember watching that video the first time around and I still don’t get what the fuzz was all about, it was an honest reaction video. Big thumbs up for the old intro! 👍🏻👍🏻 Cheers!
Producer Michael just released a video of him reacting to Nico Leonard reacting to his watches. His taste in watches have changed and he no longer "mutilates" them as he says. The Rolex GMT is factory and I personally love it. You are correct, Nico Leonard tore him up and you were much kinder in your assessment. I believe Nico did an updated review recently which was much nicer since there weren't any bust down watches in that video.
Been looking forward to seeing this….
lol one of my first videos of the Producers, and thought the same as your thoughts, well done, and a respectful review in my thinking, mad respect to you, i like the old stuff, and the classics,, -
I don’t particularly like every watch of his but I do love most of them and it is fun to see even the strange looking ones. Producer Michael is a legit cool dude and I’ve always gotten a kick out of his very unique but cool style. I couldn’t imagine a world without the eccentric but fun good people like Producer Michael. I don’t understand why he reached out and had you remove the video I think you were fine. You obviously have a deep love and appreciation for watches, the insane crazy skills it takes to make those intricate beautiful parts and the history of watch making so I would have been very flattered had I been Michael to see you took the time to review and give your opinions on my collection, honestly.
Producer Michael is living proof that money can't buy good taste.
its called "being yourself" something the media hates because the world wants you to obey them like sheep. pm is being himself without giving a fuck about what people think of him
Did he book a pleasure cruise with Coach?
If you are broke your opinion doesn't matter
😂😂
lol
I don't think Oisin was betraying his own beliefs or usual style. However, I personally fell in love with this channel because it produces things in a very unique way compared to what most of the other watch YT channels does. Authentic style and freshness in contrast to submission to the community hype and to the likes and subscriptions numbers. In my humble opinion it was a mistake to make a reaction video on first place because it will eventually get you into a "beef" and this channel is about something else. keep your essence up Oisin!
Awesome 👏 I love this reaction vid Oisin. Bravo 🥂
After watching PM’s reaction to Nico’s video my first question to PM was why he struck down your video and if we would be okay with you posting it again. I’m glad this video is back.
Their video should be minimized and your reaction video should be the bigger picture!! Thats is my guess
Very balanced, not harsh, nicely done
Oisin a very good and fair review. I have watched many of your videos and Michael's videos. I have enjoyed all of them and often tasked my son to watch them as well. I think the only thing anyone might get upset about is the reference to the R word at the end. Apart from that I can't imagine why he was upset. Good video.
I just happen to see Producer Michael reacting to Niko's reaction on this very same video yesterday. PM was laughing about Niko's brutal reaction to his watches. I don't understand why he felt compelled to strike your video. Compared to Niko your reactions were gentler and more civilized. I do enjoy watching Producer Michael even though his taste is something to be desired.
Because Oisin is actually respectable, Michael's feelings were obviously hurt and I think a deeper analysis of that kind of behavior would prove a bit of flattery. Niko on the other hand is low hanging fruit at this point.
totally agree with you O man. Didn't think your critiques were over the top whatsoever but sort of respectful and yours. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and also own tastes period. PM is a great guy and watch lover and appreciater and humble and has some amazing pieces and maybe just bought those ostentatious iced ones for a bit of investment but some of them are indeed grotesque in terms of the brand designs. i would never buy several of them if I had millions no way no how. take a crack at SuperCarBlondies collection if you dare! haha
I thought that was a really interesting review and throughout you balanced your opinion with his thoughts. At the end of the day it is each to their own and I would also agree that the diamond crusting is a bit much! Sometimes classic design doesn't need augmentation......Producer Michael obviously feels the need to personalise his collection. At the end of the day, there is a good reason why you don't get body kits for Lamborghinis! Great video, keep up the good work!
Awesome we got to see this at last. My opinion? Well I'm guessing that if this was posted today, it wouldn't get blocked, what with the following you have now etc, but I think that it slightly comes across as negative, but that is possibly down to the timing of the video and your following etc. Now, I totally agree with you, the guy is super loaded and is not truly a 'watch guy' How can he be FFS. It almost wants you to be rude about the guy, but like you say, he has the right to do what he wants in his position and he seems a nice bloke. I used to follow him, but it's clear that he isn't into it like most of us. I enjoyed watching this, so thanks for the opportunity, however, I think you would produce a much better video today. I think you alluded to that in the intro. Loving your work, still one of the better channels on YT today. Got me thinking actually about the reference to jewellery in watches in the video. Don't you think its interesting how Bulgari have refrained from the jewellery element in mens watches of late and they are a true jewellery champion! the Octo and Finissimo range in particular. Very masculine, but beautiful along with interesting, original and revolutionary. Ever fancied a finissimo? Tried one on and they are quite large, but could suit your wrist.
I'm amazed Michael had your channel given a strike. That's so bad. He should take accountability for that. Hope he addresses this soon, maybe KZhead can take back the strike on your channel.
Guys that wear stuff like that come across to me as being show-offs. Nobody likes a show-off. “Hey….look at me over here with all my diamonds all over my watch!!” No thanks. I don’t think you were harsh. I think you were honest.
Great review 👏
I remember watching this during lockdown👍 never understood why PM got so butthurt🤣 but you are borh good guys, time heals 🍺
Love the old intro theme. This channel will forever be known to me as The Timeless Watch Channel !!!
Great video Oisin. I don't see why YT took it down on you, maybe a slight influence from Michael. His collection makes me want to "bust down" my Explorer 114270, hahahahaha, just kidding. Thx for sharing!
YT didn't take it down. Michael did. YT, eventually put it back up but by then, i had already deleted it myself.
Great video. Agreed with all you said. Absolutely not my taste either but I guess it's the taste of the people in the world Michael operates in. Have to say he always comes across as nice guy with a real sense of over the top fun .
Michael recently admitted he has moved away from aftermarket modified watches and vulgar stuff to more classic and factory original watches on one of his videos. So maybe his thinking has changed to agree with your view a bit more Oisin. Good video and nice to see it again.
Michael probably just realized that spending big money to ice his watches actually made them less valuable.
Good video, no point of him going after you to take it down. You showed respect for the man , and you just reviewed the watches from you point of view . Some were good , some were very bad .
Dear Oisin you’ve made informative and logical remarks in your video! Can’t agree with your remarks more!!
Michael recently did a reaction to Nico's reaction, which was light hearted and it seemed Michael has "lightened up" quite a bit.
Loved your review. Totally agree. Perfect analogy of plastering a gorgeous woman and covering her face with diamonds. Pretty much sums up Michael's collection.
One of your most entertaining videos. And there is a serious point here about the relationship between aesthetic and moral values. The string quartet comparison at the end absolutely nails why the collection is more than just ghastly; at some level it represents a much deeper failure. Probably why he had the video blocked!
You were kind and discreet. Much nicer than I would have been.
I don't get the issue (currently halfway through the video). You don't share the same taste. Ok. But you've complimented him multiple times on his humour and humility. For a colourful guy like Michael, this is all good. It's a great fun video and I love your views. Literally no idea why someone would take against this. Keep doing what you're doing. Really enjoying it.
I saw your commentary on his watch collection and I most agree in everything you said . Class is class and all the money in the world can’t make you classy . It’s not about having a million dollar collection, it’s having a classy collection that you love .
The old adage: Class and NOT arse
More jealous salt from a member of the third world. Go figure.
I thought this review was as respectful of Michael as possible while giving your honest reaction and opinion of his collection. While I lean more towards your perspective, I find his videos to be quite entertaining and I find him to be rather likable most of the time.
It's a matter to agree to disagree
I recall enjoying this film the first time it was released. I like Producer Michael in that he’s everything I’m not, flamboyant, wealthy and super confident but he shouldn’t have requested you be given a copyright strike. Especially if he agreed that you could critique his collection beforehand. Regardless, very entertaining film, I’ll look forward to parts two, three, four, five, six…
Hi Oisin, I saw the video that Nico did of Producer Michael's watches. Very hypocritical of Producer Michael to permit Nico's video and not your original video. Than you for sharing.
Love Producer Michael, love your review of part of his collection.
Pretty scathing Oisin! 😂 But not unfair at all.
I think the timing of video is very relevant with lockdown. Although you are respectful to him.. it does come across like you enjoy putting the boot in. We know what he's like and about, the watch family should stick together. We are good people with standards. I just feel the video is not needed , but who cares. Still watched it and enjoyed it, like most of your videos. I love the omega seamaster video you did, could you do round two of that watch video. For nostalgia 👊🏻
Need to get the popcorn in...
Glad I saw this again. Back to Back with Nicos review of the same video is very entertaining. Glad Producer Michael has been a good sport about this. So far at least. TWC at itas best.
I bet producer Michael is very very angry about this video being released !! Lol Great video Totally agree with you !!
Your most hilarious vid by the way. I really need a drink. 😂
I like Producer Michael because he is a wealthy guy but he is not pretentious. He is a nice person. On the other hand, I do not care for his taste in watches. I still like to watch his videos even though I cannot relate to his watch decisions or his lifestyle decisions. Live and let live I always say.
😎 It's not that Michael wants to sh$t all over these superb watches it's just that he needs attention from ALL the world to notice him😉 He's got to be the loneliest man on earth. Dear Michael consider selling All of these watchs at action and feeding the homeless and poor in Los Angeles you would get the entire world to respect you and remember your kindness for a hundred years. God bless you my brother. 🦁
Why aren’t you out there helping the homeless then?
@@torqueofthedevil8145 Actually I do all the time. The last time I took the shoes off my own feet and gave them to man walking barefoot on the sidewalk. He just took them and walked away. No big deal just help anyway👍🐎
The tone of your comment suggests you're from a minority community, and considering that is your position means the hubris of your empty blessing is inappropriate and out of place. Do better in future, please.
I can't stop laughing. I've yet to see a Richard Mille I'd wear even if I could afford it. But a diamond encrusted Rolex GMT? Please! Great job Oisin. Loved it!
Let’s goooooo!
11.05 the phone ringings, "I hope my house keeper picks it up, because I'm not going to" What a classy chap, just like his watch collection.
I find this video very tame in comparison to Nikos video - good video I’m glad I saw it before you have to take it down again
Oisin, You made me laugh so much... Excellent.
Oisin, greetings from Norway. Probably a stupid question. But is it possible to salvage a watch that has been attacked by after-market diamonds? Thinking of the Pateks, Producer Michael has blinged out. Can they be restored to their original beauty, or are they f.....? Love your videos.
Since the process requires drilling cavities in all the surfaces where diamonds are set, I doubt you could restore the watches without replacing all the drilled parts. It might be worth it if it’s just the bezel and/or dial.
Svaret er nei, ingenting will bli orginalt selv om du restaurerer den med orginale deler, som alle som blir montert fra fabrikk har et dele nummer, så om du bytter ut feks urskiven, med en som har et annet nummer, så er ikke klokken å betrakte som orginal lengre. Hilsen en som har samlet high end klokker i 20 år.
I honestly believe you were very respectful/light on your comments! Nothing to be offended by....oh well his problem. 🤪
I absolutely love that alley you were walking down in the beginning of this video. Is that somewhere in London? I'd rather live in a unit on that alley than live in The One.
I think you were respectful; and producer Michael's Watch collection is certainly not for everyone! I have seen more than a few of his videos which all have the theme of abundant success - and profit. He is used to willing and affable sales people around him - he is, after all, an agreeable, Grade One big hitter himself! It has been 2 years since your interview and he will have seen his watch collection rise in value so he will have come around to the realisation that: a gentle critique, a little praise, a sniff of controversy has done him no harm whatsoever within the distinguished circles of his milieu. Continued good fortune to you both!
LOL! You simply said out loud what everyone was thinking.
Having been a watch collector for some 40+ years, I must say that Producer Michael watches tells me that money does NOT by class (not talking about the way he dresses). But then again, diamonds are a girl's best friend. LOL -
You went light on him…definitely respect that we all have different tastes when it comes to horology, however just because he can afford to do that to watches does NOT mean that he should…if there’s one thing I’ve learned from watch collecting is that taste changes so my only hope for him is that his does sooner than later
Absolutely NOTHING WRONG with this at all , completely fair and honest opinion & personal view. Will be very interesting if we see a repeat reaction from him again in light of how he has responded to Nico's video.
You are missing WHY it was struck. It is a copyright violation to publish the mans work without consent.
@@JayandSarah ohhh right. This isn’t another reaction video like everyone else produces in this space.
@@JayandSarah did you miss the part where Oisin says he had gotten permission from them?
Im 17min in and already can see why PM didn’t liked it😂😂.. u sh17 on him, his clothes and most of his watch collection 😂😂🤦♂️🙏. I LOVE IT! Only good thing u said about him is that he’s a nice guy and that he’s rich. Don’t get me wrong, I think he pussy too but I didn’t made a whole video about it😂👏👏👏… u get a sub and 👍 for it .
Hi Oisin I enjoy your videos and you live in a romantic place, plus the watch reviews of course, keep up the good work. Charles from England.
PM has made a fool of himself with this.
Yeah, that was harsh. The visceral disgust over pieces that were not of Michael's creation goes after everyone involved, and who owns anything similar.
@@richardbartlett6932 Probably some professional rivalry involved.
“Welcome back to The Timeless Watch Channel, guys”. Not gonna lie, I’ve missed that. And the Bach.
I thought your comments were fair tbh. Nobody wants to be told by others I guess that they have poor taste. Sometimes ego just gets in the way. Nice vid Oisin.
to be fair to the bloke, he said back then he was just a watch collector. He did a video the other day about this video and how he was embarrassed by his watches and his attitude towards them. So i don't think he's that embarrassed of the actual vid!
Great and honest review on Producer Michael’s watch collection. I don’t have or plan to have a watch collection like that even if I had the money. What I do have is a two family heirlooms. One is a 6538 while the other is a very rare Mido from the Korean War era. I have my 5-digit sub and my BB58. That’s all I need or want. In saying this I am wondering what your thoughts are on my question below: Do you think Producer Michael would bedazzle a Rolex Sub 6538? My thinking is he would. I agree bedazzling one’s watch is feminine and wouldn’t do it but as you said each is his own.
I don’t know the backstory of this drama. That said, I find your review of these watches to be balanced, thoughtful, and informative. Producer Michael comes across as a thin-skinned narcissist. He has the taste of a Third-World dictator who has been pillaging his country’s treasury for years.
The guy's username is "Producer [his name]", what did you expect? His username is actually what put me off immediately and made me not even bother with any of his videos, it just reeks of self-importance and douchebaggery.
Due to the slagging he’s had,I think the non factory diamond watches are gone probably at a big loss😢.His collection is becoming more refined.I say wear what like not what is in fashion.
I liked this reaction video. It’s was very fair nothing harsh about it at all 🇮🇪
What’s funny is that now in 2024 Producer Michael doesn’t have any of those watches anymore. He realized they were ugly and started buying more traditional watches that are factory made.
Yes I know. Not long after I made this video, Nico Leonard made a similar one and he was way more brutal. No strike on him though. Brits in America.
Ya I saw that review. I think Nico did 2. One brutal and one a little more friendly.
Oooooo the old intro!
great video, I couldn't agree more and I think you may have bruised his ego a bit
“What I see here is tragedy”. Oisin, you nailed it while being humane throughout.
Producer Micheal did a reaction video to Nico's reaction video yesterday...
So first off, love your content. Cheers! I originally thought the comment about his "flowery shirts and shoes" might have hit a nerve but ... I think it was the comments around his pride and joy Richard Mille and then comparing it to cheap plastic covered furniture in Queens 🤣🤣 classic. Overall, nothing here that should have put a hair across his hind parts.
I’d love to hear him say ,,Vashiron Constantine with those teeth😒!!!!! What we have to realise my friends,,, Is poor old Michael has ABSOLUTELY no taste,, You can’t buy taste,,you can’t rent taste,, you either have it or you don’t,,,SAD,😒😒🇬🇧
If you're broke or not able to buy what you like, his collection would bother you. Buy what you like no matter what the next man says.