Rinaldi America setup & review! How to hang a slipfit axe! Tree felling and bucking!
2024 ж. 15 Нау.
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I got a package from France! In this video, I take you through the process step-by-step to get the axehead ready, shape the handle and hang the axe! And I give it a testrun in the forest, felling and bucking a tree!
Its great. Right out of the box building a life long bond between the axe and the craftsman. Thank you for your time, great personality.
Glad you appreciate it, hope you’ll be back fore more!
Thanks for the video. The excitement of getting to try a new axe overrides feeling sick ! Must try it out !
Go for it! If you can’t find a dealer closer to you, I suggest you check out La Frontiére.
I very much enjoyed the sound of the spoke shave !! You got that chopping very well ! And Sharp ! I like how the thin blade panetrates so deep on the bucksplit. The bulbous eye comes along and shoves the split out very nicely !! We have Sandhill Cranes that migrate right over my house also. But the wont be here gor another 2 months.
My favourite moments in the workshop is when I use the handplanes … I get into a peaceful state of mind that’s not possible with powertools. From what I understand about the climate you live in, I totally understand why the cranes wait a bit longer there. Actually, I think it was 2011 when we had a winter that lasted longer and also was colder than normal. That spring, cranes were observed in the south of Sweden, when they came back from the south, turning around and flying back again. They didn’t come back for a month or two that time.
Hello Olaf ! Nice review. I knew you would like your new Rinaldi axe from La Frontière (you know I have the same). By the way your french accent is perfect !! Bonne journée. Christian from France
Thanks, Christian. I think this model has become very popular. And I think it’s obvious why.
The cranes going overhead let us know when it is spring and fall here in NM USA. This is the second Renaulde axe video I have watched, both seem to be happy with them
As long as you’re prepared to do a little bit of work on them yourself, Rinaldi axes are good. But they should look at their handles, I’ve had poor quality handles delivered along with the axehead twice now.
Beautifull axe and nice job setting it up👍 I am waiting for my Prandi Trade Axe 1200g. A very similar pattern, slip fit and Italian too. It is my first axe in this style. I am more used to the typical american pattern and the german Rhineland pattern. Nice technique for the bucksplitting. Only learned about this recently over at Theud Bald's La Frontiere-site (excellent site!). Can't wait to try out bucksplitting a tree planned to come down this summer. Thanks for all your interesting uploads🙏👍
Thanks for all your appreciation! The Trade Axe has a shorter edge, right? Otherwise it’s similar. I believe I saw Thibaud demonstrate it recently on his channel, Theud Bald. I think a cheekier axe would be even better for the bucksplit technique, but as long as the dimension of the trunk isn’t too large it works well with these thinbladed latin style axes. I hope you’ll enjoy my upcoming videos aswell!
@@myoutdoorways Yes, the edge length is 11 cm on the Prandi 1200g, so shorter than the Rinaldi America 1100g (13cm) so I expect a slightly more wedgy blade but still thin ... a least I am hoping for a rather thin blade for felling and bucking small diameter trees and limbing trees in all sizes. I actually became interested in thin blades to be used for bucksplitting. I expect them to be superior to axes with fatter cheeks due to deep penetration in the cross fiber cuts and less risk of glancing when splitting along the trunk during bucksplitting.... time will tell👍😊
I recognize the advantages with cross fibre penetration and less risk of glancing with thin axes. And for small diametres they are really nice. But I will also get a cheekier and heavier axe for larger trees and splitting stringy log bottoms. I hope you’ll like your Prandi axe when it arrives!
@28:35 I do generally make myself the axes handles out of ash wood which is perfect for making any tools handles as it has a good straight grain and it is very easy to carve. In North Italy almost every tools have a slipfit handles, therefore my easy trick to fit a handle is to get closer as much as I can to the tool eye size and then, after having spread a generous amount of oil in the eye, I do press the handle into it by an hydraulic press. It works always successfully! This handle you are working on has a bad grain and it will bust quickly: I would even say it is not quite safe using your axe with this handle, as you'll never know when it might bust and the reaction of it !
I also prefer ash myself. But these beech handles that Rinaldi seems to favour are ok too, if the grain is straight. In this case, I’ll use it as an experiment, too see how it holds up. And I’ve been offered great compensation from the seller.
@@myoutdoorways That's goog. I am very happy for you how the issue ended. Anyhow, just discovered now your channel and I will continue to watch your videos which are with great content.
Those are kind words indeed! You’re welcome as a subscriber.
Great video! Love the axe!
Thank you!
I'm really sorry about the handle's grain! Your video makes me think that I absolutely must train my coworker to put aside these kinds of handles. I'll contact you by email to solve this problem 🖐️
Not that big of a deal to me, but it would probably be a good idea to contact the company that makes the handles and encourage them to improve on their production. A lot of inconvenience for you if you have to go through every delivery and return some of the handles every time. But I’ll check my e-mail if you want to talk about it there.
Looks like a fun axe. I'm a big fan of slip fit tomahawks and this one reminds me of a (different shaped) Cold Steel Viking Axe
I wouldn’t necessarily call it viking, for one thing I don’t think there are any findings of viking age axes with slipfit handles … but the similarity to tomahawks is perhaps easier to see, at least for me. And yes: it is a very fun axe! I’ll be back with more content showcasing it soon!
Well done. I have two Rinaldi Trento's, the 1300 which is also a slipfit and weigh 1388 actually and the 500 which is not a slipfit. I am a big fan of slipfit axes, have 10 Basque axes of which 8 is slipfit.
I haven’t come in contact with any Basque axes, but I must say, after now bought my third, I really like slipfit axes too.
Great thoughts!! Thank you so much👌
No problem!
The first cranes here flew in several V-formations a few days ago. "Honk honk" across the skies, making our dogs grumpy but me, happy. The opposite to the ordinary, then 😊 It's nice seeing you chopping with this technique, but it's also making me wonder why the heck it hasn't been in use by many more people. It's really great! 👏 🪓 🛍 (there was no chopping emoji, so I used a shopping ditto. Then I realized, it's a great choice, since you did buy the axe. I will pretend I thought of that from the beginning of this long and rather elaborate, albeit nonsensical, post). I will crawl back into my cupboard now.
Your elaborate comments mostly annoys yourself, I believe. To all others they’re just amusing. I don’t know how old the technique actually is, but I know for sure that I’ll use it forever now that I learned it.
@@myoutdoorways I'll stop when I start annoying myself, for sure, or if I wake up to a world without coffee. Or with all the axes dull and nothing to sharper them with. Or no bacon. Have a great evening, everyone! Also, give your toddler a hug from me and the missus.
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Very nice vid. Thank you. Good review and thoughts. That issue with the grains in the handle is really not worthy that axehaed. Good work.
Thanks. I’m going to treat this handle as an experiment, see how long it lasts.
"Well... It shaves, but I wasn't going to bring it to the bathroom, anyway" 😂 I think Bea wouldn't approve of an axe in there, no.
She’s pretty used to me bringing tools into the house. But she wouldn’t approve of the shave!
So glad you didn't use the , nice old sweedish band saw! 🤪,,,"relax and listen to the sound of spoke shave" he he couldn't have put it better myself, That handle is a bit of a concern!, I could probably find better and cheaper here in UK , I was lucky the other day whilst at work driving my bus I spotted a village hardware shop, so making full use of of the bus stop outside, I nipped in and brought a top grade handle, with beautiful straight grain, for my pickaxe, and at only £7.50 I was well happy, I lauded it down on the luggage rack at the front of the bus, and continued on to do the school run,,,,, It was odd how well behaved the kids were that day He he😂
Hi Rupert! Great story, nice that you had time to pop into the store while on the job. Glad you got my point of enjoying handtools … I hope that quite a few viewers do that. To be fair, I don’t have a vast experience of beech handles. Maybe the grain orientation isn’t such a big issue … but if I’d made my own handle I’d definitly made it with the grain running as straight as possible. I’ll just use it and see.
@@myoutdoorways, Mmm my experience is limited to, I would prefer the grain straight, I a hammer, axe, paddle, long bow, It's got to be safer that way? " if you were to film a destruction test I think you know already the outcome, And my friend you work with wood a lot more than I do, maybe I should order a handle from that company,. Test it myself, Actually, I would like to be proved wrong! But,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if it breaks at least we get to watch the Here's one I made myself video! 🤪
Yes, if it breaks that would probably result in a handle making video, a bit quicker than otherwise.
Good video! Nice handle fitting advice from Theud Bald, I could have saved myself some difficulty if I'd done it in that order instead of shaping the handle without making sure it's totally dry. At 40:05 your right foot looked in danger based on close calls I've had and made me nervous enough to be worth mentioning.
Thanks! I think I saw a video of you where you talk about how you check and adjust the handle continuosly as you use it, I thought that was a pretty good method too. Or is my memory off? Wasn’t that in one of your videos? But even doing so, it’s good advice to give the wood a chance to dry beford shaping it. Not sure how much difference one day makes though, but I did as instructed and it didn’t make anything worse, that’s for sure. Maybe the idea is to remove any potential extra moisture the wood could have absorbed in transit? About foot in danger, you mean when I step over to the other side with my right foot? Perhaps that was a bit careless, or at least it seems so watching the video. But I was very aware of the potential risk, plus the impact angle of the axe wasn’t that low, so the risk of glancing wasn’t that high. But I see your point.
@@myoutdoorways yes I do like to adjust the fit as I is am using it but last time I had to work harder at it after the handle shrank
@@myoutdoorways I know videos can make it look more dangerous depending on the angle just making sure. I have a video showing refining the fit as I used an axe but it was more of a hassle than it would have been if he handle hadn’t shrunk also.
Perhaps a moisture gague is a good tip. I just dug mine out, but to check the moisture in firewood. It can be a bit uncertain when you buy a handle if it’s really seasoned or not. But when you make your own handles it’s not as big an issue, since you probably kept the wood in a somewhat controlled environment for a while.
A moisture meter is a good idea. I keep my lumber outside in a shed but my axes live inside so there is significant difference in humidity in the winter. When I make a handle I try to account for adequate inside drying time but it would be nice to know when it has been long enough@@myoutdoorways
My only Rinaldi is a Calabria heavy duty (I think it's a 1300g head). My biggest critique is the handle. Being trapezoidal makes it less than comfortable and it doesn't have much flex. I think the America is what I would buy if I were to buy a Rinaldi today.
I agree with you. The eyeshape of the Calabria dictates the shape of the handle, and that turns out a bit thin on the front, which isn’t very comfortable. Even so, I would like to have that 1300g version, but Rinaldi don’t make it anymore.
@@myoutdoorwaysit is a beast that really bites into the wood. I just need to reshape the handle a little; only the part that fits through the eye needs to be that odd shape. I'm impressed with what I've seen from Theud Bald, even though my French isn't very good any more. Watching his KZhead videos, he seems to know what he's doing.
Yes, he’s a great inspiration. If you don’t fit a slipfit handle to it of course you can make the handle any shape you want. I’ve seen people do that before.
@@myoutdoorways Yes, I saw where Ben Scott had converted one on one of his Rinaldi or Hachss Juaregi models. Thanks for the replies.
Maybe that’s where I saw it aswell, I’ve been watching his videos quite a lot.
It,s a bad grain for an ax, but it would make a beautiful wall hanger.
I’ll treat it as an experiment and make a new handle when it breaks.
Thank you. I will. Im sure your very busy but what are the sharpening devices you use for your axes?
I’m no expert yet, but in general it helps with a pretty small bevel when felling and limbing green trees. But you shouldn’t go smaller than 15 degrees, that can make the edge fragile. For bucking, it depends a bit on method and preference I believe, but for that you could use a wider angle that splits easier and pops chips better. I use coarse and medium files to alter the edge profile(1:st cut and bastard), then whatever sharpening stones you prefer. I sometimes use a double sided diamond stone, 400 & 1000 grit, and sometimes an axpuck with similar grain. Then I strop the edge, leather glued onto a wooden board, flesh side out, polishing compound applied. If you substitute files with a grinding machine of some sort you have to be really careful not to heat the edge too much, ruining the hardening. Ben Scott has a lot to say about edge geometry and sharpening, aswell as thinning down axe handles, and I’ve learned a lot from his videos. So check his channel out too!
i have an Scandinavian bearded axe that was gifted to me with a D shaped eye. Is it mean to have a slip fit handle like this ?
Probably not. I’ve never seen a Scandinavian axe with slipfit. But it’s easy to check: if the eye is wider at the top than at the bottom it’s a slipfit.
Do you prefer this axe to the Calabria?
Yes I do. Partially because it’s a bit heavier, but also because of the difference between the eyeshapes.
This is the axe I want, but I can’t find it in the states. Do you have contact info you can share?
I’m not sure buying from France would be the best option for you, but if that’s what you want, the adress to Thibaud’s webshop is la-frontiere.fr. I think there are at least one dealer in Canada now, but I have no more solid info about that.
@@myoutdoorways Thank you. I tried that site. They don’t ship to the US. I will keep looking. I love your new channel!
There’s a guy called Emmanuel Bélanger up in Canada, I believe. I think he’s started selling Rinaldi axes now. Check him out.
@@myoutdoorways I found him and ordered one. Thanks!
Great! Glad I could help you out.
Arboles noooooo👎
What do you mean? Do you feel sorry for the tree or what?