North Carolina State Senior Owen Lloyd posted the fastest time in the Men's 1650-yard Freestyle, earning him the ACC Title, an automatic entry to the National Championships, and a new best time. Moments later, an announcement was made that Lloyd had been disqualified for "interference with another swimmer."
The rule(s) at play from the NCAA rulebook:
- Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1a: "Any competitor who interferes with another swimmer during a race shall be disqualified from that race, subject to the discretion of the referee..."
- Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified."
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this sport does damn near everything in its power to disallow fun
Big fan, and I totally agree. Love your videos!
Love the vids bro.
I agree. Swimming is never going to become a popular sport if dumb stuff like this continues.
Totally right kyle, this is also pretty good footage documenting everything happened after the race and disqualification
have they tried Galactic Swimming?
This feels like getting a 0 on a test because you spoke with your friend after you were both done
Except like 50x worse. Also, Jesus Christ loves you! He is the only way to heaven. May God bless you! 😊
This literally happened to me moments after finishing a test in high school. We were instructed not to talk, and I had forgotten that and commented to my neighbor “that wasn’t so bad.” The teacher gave us both 0s. I had to plead with the teacher to at least excuse my neighbor as it wasn’t her fault that I had leaned over to make the comment. It worked, but I still got the 0.
@@petelancaster6715 The teacher was right. Answering the comment: yes, if you are doing an important test and not only you're not allowed to talk after finishing the test (not at least until everybody else has finished aswell, or the time limit has runed out) but it's explicitly in the rules that you will be disqualified as punishment if that happens, in that case if you break the rules the only one you can blame is yourself.
@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alot thanks but kinda random
@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alotlove how you threw in that hustle at the end 😂
The worst thing is he was celebrating with his friend who ALREADY finished the race
yeah but others were still finishing up is the issue. however he didn't impede them so i guess they chalked it up as unsportsmanlike conduct.
*already
Its splitting hairs, I used to competitive swim. Its down to literally what the rules were for that event, word for word. Im betting its written no swimmer shall cross lanes at any point, regardless if the race was finished or not. But yes, the man broke a record, he deserves the win.
@@dajosco115 Its irrelivent, when a swimmer finishes his laps the timer is instantly stopped the secind he hits the wall. but on the other foot, it distracts the audience from cheering on the other swimmers, and "takes some of their glory" at their finish I guess. Not worth DQ my opinion.
@@user-iy1vo2jf2q *irrelevant
I’m just imagining the referees saying something like “great job everyone, we sure showed that guy! Maybe that’ll teach him not to celebrate winning next time!” Such miserable people…
I'm just imagining thee swimmer saying something like "Yo everyone, I just finished first in a record time! Now everyone else who's still swimming doesn't matter to me. I can cross rings to wherever I want." Such an entitlement..
@@julius7506 how is it entitlement when there was no interference? He crossed into the lane of the swimmer who had finished (who was also his teammate and celebrating with him). Nobody was affected by his celebration. Ah yes, he’s entitled for celebrating something he’s been working towards his entire life. So selfish.
@@julius7506You have a sad life
@@mrdoodlesvlogs Firstly, this rule wasn't made by me but by actual experienced swimmers and experts. Compare this to a field running event. In swimming, there's no finish line that you cross and come out. When a swimmer finishes, he's still in the 'field'. So crossing over into another lane (doesn't matter if the swimmer of that lane has finished or not) is like a person finishing a 100m running race and then moving into other athlete's lane within crossing line. That would certainly distract other athletes. In sports, a single second of distraction could be the difference between win and loss. Hence this rule. If a professional swimmer didn't know the rule beforehand, may be he needs to relearn the sport.
@@Charlie-yu3qs We don't define life as happy or sad around here. May be it's common at your place.
I like how the woman said “but thats what you do when you win, im sorry, listen theres not a lot of rules i have a problem with but that, i have a problem with that, that young man deserved that win” and the end she sounded really sad
Yeah, I think it's the first time a hear a commentator become so emotional. You can hear in her voice how she was on the verge of crying.
@@Leonion6yeah I could hear it too :(
He would've owned it if he didn't react defeated. He knows he won the race. If you don't consider yourself the victor, then you aren't. In the interview it should've said: 'Disqualified? So what? I know I won fairly. So, I want to thank those that helped me to winning this swim! I couldn't have done this without you. It was a great honor to participate!'
He cried like a bitch, how pathetic
What are you talking about? The judges decide whether to keep his record & advance him to nationals or not. He could "act like a winner", but it would't change the fact that he's robbed of a career-defining opportunity.
who let a reddit moderator become a referee
LMAO true.
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Dude this is the best comment on KZhead honestly this made me laugh!😂
😂😂
The most accurate comment ever. Reddit mods are truly awful
Next time he wins you know he will not celebrate again; this is how you kill someone’s happiness. So sad.
Nwo master plan
Good, maybe win with some class and follow the rules of the competition, this isn’t a frat party.
@@Soskouy Are you dumb? The guy won by a landslide and in the heat of the moment wanted and deserved to celebrate. I can tell you are absolutely miserable.
@@Soskouy where the fuck do you people come from?
@@Soskouy there is a reason you are the only person with that opinion. The part your emotional problems have a problem with isn't what he got disqualified for anyway. he could have done the same thing litterally 3 seconds later, he just made a mistake not thinking lanes on the other end where still active so he couldn't cross into one where his team was already done. This is an optionally enforced rule for causing problems with other lanes that was used at the wrong time. Thanks for pulling out frat party from no where as it isn't slighly relevant to the video. Every living thing that sees your comment will go away knowing you have something wrong with you. just because you see a guy happy about an accomplishment like beating his overal best time doesn't mean something is wrong. work on yourself a little.
Bro, over a hundred people disagreed with the judges, including the person he apparently crossed lanes with
That's called thinking with your emotions.. not logic
Bla bla bla@@iGrindBudz
@@iGrindBudzI'm I like 99.87% sure you're a troll, perhaps even a little evil goblin, maybe even a deviled egg, possibly a broken fire hydrant, might even be a raisin cookie that wasn't a chocolate vhip cookie Edit: ratio
@@iamastegosauruses2734 yeah, I understand your feelings got hurt here but the ref made the correct decision.
@@iamastegosauruses2734 listen to yourself. That's mental health. Read what you said
I can't believe judges did this and stuck to this decision. That so stupid to disqualify an athlete like that. He didn't interfere with anybody, his teammate had already finished his race, that "during a heat" part of the rule was completely dismissed somehow. So stupid, unreasonable and downright cruel thing to do. Shame on those judges.
MAD respect to the guy who said he wouldn't take the winning spot.
This is disgusting. The judges have lost their humanity. God bless his teammate for his attitude and support.
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@@kristinleigh545 The referees literally had no other option as the rule mandates automatic dq for the swimmer. So maybe be angry at the swimmer for breaking rules and stop being disgusting.
@@lunalane Rules suck. Everyone knows that. Read the room.
@@lunalanethe only thing that is disgusting is your comment.
The guy who ended up taking the technicality saying he’s not taking the medal is a serious friend and shows amazing sportsmanship
"He beat me fair and square and he deserves that medal not me" Good teammate and friend
I mean, any decent human being would do the same, no one would take that medal in pride
u know they homies coz id do the same for mine ✊✊ respect to him man
Rules like these were made by fools.
K kid
this actually made me cry. as a young athlete myself, that validation of winning feels incredible, and having it stripped away over something so stupid is the most crushing, despairing feeling ever. my best wishes go out to this guy.
My gosh, its not a dude who just won a prize from a rulette or the lottery, he literally gave years and put real effort for this. This is disrespectful with that young athlete and even with all of us who saw he didnt interfered at all and that he won fairly.
@@angiec.7315 wait i’m genuinely confused how am i being disprespectful
@@lorenn_knows_nothing You weren't being disrespectful. I have no idea what that guy is on about..
He would've owned it if he didn't react defeated. He knows he won the race. If you don't consider yourself the victor, then you aren't. In the interview it should've said: 'Disqualified? So what? I know I won fairly. So, I want to thank those that helped me to winning this swim! I couldn't have done this without you. It was a great honor to participate!'
@@joris5429 later, yes, that’s a great way of thinking. but in the moment? i don’t think anyone would think like that.
I'm glad everyone, including the commentators, came together in agreement that was the biggest load of bull they've ever seen in swimming competitions
He would've owned it if he didn't react defeated. He knows he won the race. If you don't consider yourself the victor, then you aren't. In the interview it should've said: 'Disqualified? So what? I know I won fairly. So, I want to thank those that helped me to winning this swim! I couldn't have done this without you. It was a great honor to participate!'
@joris5429 youre not him bro ‼️‼️
Holy shit. This is crushing. What a perfect way to absolutely discourage future athletes from wanting to compete.
Why cause they can’t follow the rules…
@@rolandoramirez1193 Because if you're not allowed to celebrate victory with your teammate, what would you do it for
@@StefanRial he could have climb the pool and celebrate on land. Not a hard thing to do.
you mean like in football, where players get ejected from the game and fined for celebrating?
@@StefanRial the Australian women's swim team beat the world record in the olympics and was disqualified for something the same....it resulted in the USA getting the gold metal. USA team didn't complain...hell they pointed it out....its heart breaking and a bit S*?t.
how miserable do you have to be to disqualify a kid for celebrating WITH his team mate AFTER the team mate already finished too! there was no “interference”. he made HISTORY.
a rule is a rule. not that hard to follow. cross the lane after everyone leaves. that's totally fine.
@@noob.168 do you want the officials number? I think he is looking for boot lickers.
@@noob.168 bootlicker alert
@@noob.168you must be fun at parties
@@noob.168 You must be fun to hang around
I don't know why i watched this, I hate fucking injustices. This video made me fucking angry
same and I knew it would too. I just couldn't help myself
@@malxntI literally cried for him too! 😢
He would've owned it if he didn't react defeated. He knows he won the race. If you don't consider yourself the victor, then you aren't. In the interview it should've said: 'Disqualified? So what? I know I won fairly. So, I want to thank those that helped me to winning this swim! I couldn't have done this without you. It was a great honor to participate!'
he probably got some water themed revenge
You watched this video because you consciously clicked on it ‘Tard
Whoever ruled him out probably should have been named and spoken to 😂
That is a bit much but... If you are so miserable to deny a winner their win over fun, I guess I wouldn’t mind fingers of shame being pointed on that judge
@harbour2118 how is it a bit much ? If you don't do your job well you need to be corrected. Nobody needs to protect your feelings if you are in the wrong and that kind of thinking is why so many problems never get solved
the juden chooses to speak with the mouths of others
@@harbour2118 nah its not a bit much if he can decide something like that he deserves to be criticized harshly by the fans and players
I get the point of the rule, not going into someone else's lane to avoid interfering with another swimmer, but when they've both finished the race the ruling is as pedantic as it is ridiculous
Rules are rules dude
@@KhaoShungsome rules are stupid
@@KhaoShung rules have exceptions
race was over @@KhaoShung
@@KhaoShungrules should be a guideline to avoid negative behaviour, but then there's also people like you
This is the perfect example of some try-hard ref enforcing a rule but completely and utterly ignoring the spirit of the rule. Obviously no interference was caused and the swimmer in that lane was already done. Insane.
that what i said to cops: you are insane, there were no traffic on the road, you are ignoring the spirit of red light, it means: do whatever the duck you want on this street and i was happy about my job promotion!
it’s stupid. it’s as if robots are enforcing the rule. this clearly isn’t what the rule tries to prevent and any person with common sense can see that. the judges just said “well technically, he broke a rule” without actually considering why that rule exists in the first place
Is it not allowed if the lane is finished? That is dumb
hey, ask a stupid question, get ... wrecked.
@@zloidooraque0 that’s- without a doubt- the worst analogy i’ve heard all week. breaking traffic laws and hugging a teammate who’s finished with the race are two totally different things. to fix that analogy, it’s more like getting that promotion, driving home with your work friend in separate cars, getting out of the car, having a drink to celebrate, and getting a ticket for a DUI in your own house. do you think you can see why that doesn’t really work now?
The guy who got second is a good friend
this is exactly why i hate swimming competitions. you get disqualified for the most simple things. one small movement = starting too early. like wth? that’s just stupid.
@@poa2.0surface77 im talking about when you have to do the start. if you just move slightly = disqualified.
@@poa2.0surface77 what i mean is that the rules are unfair. im a competitive swimmer myself so ik what a competition is. just accept that i dont think the rules are fair nor good
yap
@bweaddss blud cant accept opinions
@@BANSHEE._WC no it just looked like you were talking by yourself in the reply section lol
Disqualified for huggin his teammate when both were done swimming??? That’s ridiculous!!!
don't u just love america.
These crowd should have went after the judges
Other people were still swimming.
@@xiaokaSo what? That’s not th point, the rule is in place to stop finish swimmers from interfering with people still swimming. They were both done so the rule doesn’t apply. It’s literally his own teammate too
@@jurelrossanyonsmith-gk1pbbro what?
As an experienced Swim Coach myself I understand the rule, however if both swimmers have finished the race, referees need to apply some common sense. Every winner in swimming history celebrates like that! Pathetic officials.
Isn't other sanction possible for this mystake ? He broke le rule so sanction seem normal but discalification is just too high !
I have never seen two swimmers competing in the last heat and the rest were a lap behind +. what kind of beer league is that? there is no winner under FINA sitting a celebrating on lane until everyone is done
He broke the rules and got DQ. What's the problem?
@@iGrindBudz Punishement is too strong regarding the fault.
@@Simon-if2hs but he broke the rules...
I like that everyone even the commentator and even the other swimmers defended him that is true sportsmanship right there
"ummm technically🤓"
I was expecting to see some disgusting display of egotism and hubris. This kid was excited that’s all. Totally deserves the win and to celebrate. Ridiculous ruling.
Same. This is so wrong
Unfortunately for him, he screwed up. Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat hadn't finished. Stupid rule, that could be revised, but it is what it is. All sports have some unpopular rules but they certainly shouldn't be changed from play to play. It's the participants responsibility to be aware of them. Accountability...a value of the past?
I'm going to be honest and real when I say I genuinely wish there were more egotistical people winning and celebrating their victories. Getting really tired of the "humble and modest" people winning. It's just hating at that point
The race was still on going, the other guy is irrelevant as the rules are you can’t cross lanes while the race is on, he got jumpy.
@@roberthedrick1397 That rule is clearly to punish disrupting swimmers that haven't finished. He crossed into a lane of a swimmer that already finished. We have brains, let's use some fucking logic and give the kid the fucking medal. Shit like this is fucking pathetic.
Swimmer: "YES!!! I WON!! MY BEST TIME EVER!!!" Referee: "Fun detected. Engaging emergency protocols."
No: Rules violation detected; psychopathy inferred.
It was the right thing to do : when he lets himself fall in the other lane, he makes waves that can affect the chrono of others swimmers. Imagine the first F1 pilot who finishes the race starts to make a burnout and makes smoke al overt the finish line. That's the same thing, and that was the right decison to disqualify him.
@@Zuriki_ but look how small those waves are
@@Zuriki_ “”””waves””””, bro he literally broke a record, who cares????
@mickeymousesupremency149 Having worked in the mental health field in numerous positions for over 25 years, including direct client care, and without yet searching Google, I'd say it means presenting the personality disorders and conditions of a psychopath. Now I WILL look it up: "Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior." Bit of advice: the ad hominem is the worst fallacy of all: It instantly demonstrates you have gifted your opponent a very satisfying win.
That day he won something more than a medal. A long life friend.
It is understandable that you cant cross the lane when swimming but when he finished he saw his teammate was too and crossed the lane. In what way could that affect the race, his teammate was already done and his time was already on the books. How could the referees do that, that is just so rude and I can't imagine how Lloyd would have felt.
Literally everyone is against that decision, the fact they kept the disqualification tells exactly who they are.
aleksandr karelin lost the olympic gold in wrestling on a technicality. learn to control your emotions
@@grawakendream8980thats the same as legally right but morally wrong
@@Altair2786 so now it's question of morality lol. ok
@@grawakendream8980we talking about swimming and homie brought up wrestling
@@grawakendream8980 So... having basic empathy and an oppinion in the matter is now being emotionally unstable? sure pal. I'd reccomend you to project elsewhere.
He didn't interfere with anybody still swimming . Well done to the team mate who would not stand on the podium in first place .
i dont even watch swimming comps or know anybody here till now, i felt so bad for him, wanna give him a hug. hope they did resolve the issue though. he def deserved that win
What a skilled ref, somehow manages to make people uninvolved in the sport viscerally angry at him
whats his name? and adress?
@@consumoholic not the best way to indicate your agreement here
Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't even watch Swimming at all. And I want to become involved in this sport just to support this young man and see Justice take place.
@@consumoholic You hear one swimming rule and youre ready to grab pitch forks. Bro it’s not that serious. Wild to me you make that joke but they’re actually receiving threats.
Facts
I mean to be fair, he did win first before crossing the “line,” and as far as I’m concerned, he does have the medal, so therefore he won. The crowd has spoken.
how to utterly destroy someone’s passion and strip away recognition for their hard work. genius refs you got there
He didn’t get it. His competitors didn’t get it. The crowd didn’t get it. The TV reporters didn’t get it. This really isolates the judges.
Anyone with a brain got it. Don't break the rules.
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c bet you're fun at parties
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c Wow. I'm sorry officer.
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c What rule did he break? obviously no one understood
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c Anyone with a real brain understands that you can't interfere with a another swimmer that has already finished the race, plus it was his TEAMMATE, it's not like he fell into a random competitors lane while they were still racing, that would have been uncalled for That rule is the equivalent of a baseball player celebrating a home run by giving someone running to the plate behind him a high five after he goes over the plate, and getting the homerun disqualified because of it, it makes no sense and everyone knows it
He did not interfere with the other swimmer. The guy had already finished swimming. This needs to be protested! Stupid rule!
@@basnoordermeer4249gtfoh😂 you can’t even sit here and act like this wasn’t stupid asl jus stop.
I have to agree! Lloyd got this fair and square! Never liked that rule.
He crossed into an inactive lane (teammate was done swimming). So... how, exactly, is the rule "effective" in this case? Wouldn't it only be effective when applied to active lanes?@@basnoordermeer4249
@@basnoordermeer4249This is snowflake rule
@@basnoordermeer4249 yes, it was an incredibly stupid interpretation and use of that rule, and I say that as a swimming coach and ex pro swimmer. He didnt interfere with any other active swimmer, and the spirit of the rule is only about those. Such celebrations actually happen all the time even in Olympics without such stupid disqualifications happening. Mongoloid ref with a pathetic need to use their power, or someone with an agenda, vengence, or something.
I’ve never teared up so much about sports until his teammate defended him. 😢 What a GOAT. Everyone who works hard deserves their moment!
I got emotional, too haha. I love that we remain keepers of our original humanity , despite the state of the world.
I wanna cry he seems so sad and he is in public and probably feel pressure to not cry but he was so happy he worked so hard for that
I can understand a penalty for being a sore winner, for gloating, for rubbing your win in an opponent's face, or being disruptive. That isn't what happened here. The judges are incredibly pathetic and immature.
Idk man, getting up on a lane line while competitors are still swimming is pretty disrespectful. I swam competitively (I was mediocre, not a record breaker), and we were always taught that when you finish, you stand and wait until everyone else finishes before you do anything else
@@Sklounst_Actualdude whos lane he entered was also finished genius
@@Sklounst_Actual AGREED! The judges were simply following the rule. Don't like the rules? Change them. The kid made a terrible mistake. He can learn to weave it into his life for the better if his coach and family help him. The lady announcer? She's wrong. You do NOT celebrate in someone else's lane when the race is still underway.
@@Sklounst_Actualmaking up rules that don’t exist AFTER someone has already broken the rule doesn’t mean anything. You people have mental issues
@@Sklounst_Actual Ur obviously crap at what you do if you believe what he did ruined the experience for the runner-up. If I was that athlete in second place, I would throw my medal into the guys lap and stated pubically that i'd came second. It isnt right and yet some people like you defend the stupid decision all because that would've hurt YOUR feelings.
I like how the judges don’t have enough balls to actually show themselves when making a dumb decision like that.
Afraid the spectators may chuck them in the pool😁
Bruh, the rules are there for a reason. Also nobody has to show themselves on camera for you to see. This is not a fight, people are just doing the job they are paid to do. It's not like the judges gain anything from him not winning. They are just doing their job.
@@webrevolution.found the judge
@@webrevolution. bro will lick anyone's boots christ almighty
@@webrevolution. They could have let it go. Rules are there for safety and fairness of the sport. In no way did his actions interfere with the outcome of the race. The fact that they are judges and could not use good "judgement" appears that they weren't doing their job
I loved how everyone from the crowd to broadcasters to his teammate who got the win from it were on his side
Wish I could give them both a hug. That is a true teammate!! RESPECT!!! sending you both love! Stay strong guys
Crazy how much people love to use authority to ruin other people's fun.
On the point, that is also why our society is so fucked up unfortunately. Power with the wrong hands and you can clearly see how everything is ruined year by year..
Sad people with no power over their own lives so they try to take it out on others. Pathetic humans.
Yeah, who needs to have rules!?
@@mintymusnot stupid rules lmao dumb
@@mintymus Tyrannical rules are shit, normal rules are ok
The judge is the same type of person that reminded the teacher in school there was homework. What a scumbag. What a Karen. I feel bad for him.
Damn nice to see you here! Love your channel!
Judges had no discretion in disqualifying Lloyd under rule 5.1b. If you want to complain, complain to NCAA for making the rule that all swimmers must remain in their lanes until the heat is finished.
@@hottuna2006 no, they are judges... not rules enforcers. They are their to interpret the rules, so a fair race is run.
So you dislike rules? That’s pathetic all by itself. These rules have been ingrained in him since the start of his competitive career. He knew the rule and broke it
@@coleforbes2059 read the rules, this is not the rule. It's not what the rule is there for. He didn't even break the rule as written.
“well um, technically, he did not in fact finish swimming yet 🤓👆”
They should disqualify that official from that job.
I agree, but officiating isn't a job (unless it's been changed recently). For both swimming & track & field it costs money to take the different levels of officiating courses & it's all unpaid volunteer work.
The person who made the rule should.
Rules are rules
@@temp5782 You can bent a rule though if the rule isn't any helpful in a certain case. Or at least you should do it. Some people just follow rules blindly even if it only courses harm. Tolerance of ambiguity is an important trade!
@@maestro3887 Yes… but not on this level of sports. The rules should be discussed and changed arbitrary. He knew the rules and agreed on them. This is sad, bad rule but the judges job is to enforce the rules.
Owen's teammate is the definition of a true friend.
straight men always supporting each other’s questionable decisions, all in favor of protecting their warped values of patriarchy and machismo… disgusting
He might be, but honestly what else should he have said in that situation?
@@maximilianmaier3950he should have said "yeah he truly deserved that disqualification. Thanks everyone I'm better than him."
well said! a true athlete and a true friend right there
@@dashinblu lol that would've been so funny. But seriously, what he said was exactly what pretty much every other athlete would've said in that situation, whether they really mean it or not. If you would say something like you deserved the win and you start celebrating, everyone would think you're an asshole and even people who are actually assholes know that. Imagine someone tells you his girlfriend broke up and you had a crush on her for years, you still would not say "oh great, finally she's free and i can hit on her"
"His waves were causing disruptions in other competitor's lanes." People, this is a swimming pool. Everyone should be disqualified for making disruptive waves according to this logic.
He worked so hard for that win just to end up getting disqualified🤦if he did that in new zealand even my own people would make the stadium rock in cheering that young fulla on because of his victory💯 hang in there owen much love from new zealand❤
He and his teammate were already done with the race when he entered the other lane. That rule was specifically written to prevent interference while the race is still in progress. But as those two were already finished, he caused no interference. Major props to his teammates for supporting him and refusing the automatic win.
also no interference with those still racing, nobody for obvious reason noticed him celebrating because they were swimming and racing
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat hadn't finished. Stupid rule, that could be revised, but it is what it is. All sports have some unpopular rules but they certainly shouldn't be changed from play to play. It's the participants responsibility to be aware of them. Accountability...a value of the past?
@@roberthedrick1397 you realise what judges exist for right? if all we did was take rules for a sport at face value, judges wouldnt even have a job. they are there to decide technicalities and nuance. the spirit of the rule not the words. the world isnt black and white. i can tell you never watch sports and just want to wag your finger to pad your ego. he didnt interfere with other lanes still in progress, therefore most judges would deem no interference and let it fly but i guess the judges this time were similar to you. egotistical with their head in the clouds.
@@newp0rtThat guy is just copy pasting that comment in threads. Clearly never achieved anything and is resorting to demeaning others to make himself feel better. Pathetic.
@@newp0rt This is even more egregious when you see that the teammate who technically won by default of the disqualification said he wouldn't accept his own "win" either and admitted the guy won fair and square. I don't watch sports though, so I don't know much about the nuances of this, but I would be inclined to believe a judge is there to make the calls in line with the spirit of the rule on a case by case basis.
"He will be getting that medal" The closest thing to "FU judges" without actually saying it.
Also an absolute daydream.
@@debrasnipes7431 Well, no. They are going to put that medal around his neck and he can easily take it off and give it to his teammate. Not super surprising that someone would do it, either. Who in hell wants a gold medal for a race in which everyone saw him finish second?
You just did! ...and rightfully so!
not second but first since one got disqualified . @@mrdevito2063
@@the_one_and_carpool the point went right over your head.
I don’t even care about sports and this broke my heart. To see someone’s dreams taken away like that has actually made a pit in my stomach. My heart goes out to him.
His teammate is such a chad on making that bold stand against that unfair disqualification.
@@user-se3kj5ej4d I am just a fish
@@user-se3kj5ej4d buhu
was surprised, yeah. to see some honesty and good sportsmanship in sports...unheard of
@@user-se3kj5ej4dNo. No more content creators! Get a job.
Rules is rules my dear
The kid who took the win after the disqualification is the true definition of sportsmanship. “He beat me fair and square”
If only the same applied to Eurovision.
it was the saddest 1st place finish. He didn't even look like he won.
@@hkar4385 cuz he didnt
Yeah a very dissatisfying win that would forever be tainted.
Kid?
The pure raw emotion, the pure shock, the pure despair in that mans face when he heard the news is just...
Man, that female reporter is freaking amazing. We all need someone like that in our corner. Her level of empathy is priceless
Respect to his teammate, that's a man with integrity.
@@HelpMeplease991 you are some random teen who makes "music" and tryna get some attention for that cash by spamming comments with your alt account promoting your real account and trying to make your comment seem relevant by associating your comment with the video's topic
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Well his heart is in the right place but he was wrong to "defend" Lloyd. This implies that him being disqualified is at least potentially someone else's fault. That isn't the case. Lloyd disqualified himself and there is nothing that could be done about it. It is terrible and upsetting but, there is no injustice to right here.
@@joshuamorrison8332so I've seen a lot of people say that the Rule Lloyd broke is a discretionary rule which means the judges could've decided not to count it as in this case it didn't interfere with Ross who had already finished but they still decided to enforce the rule.
@@joshuamorrison8332 🤓
I'm not a sportsperson nor am I sports-enjoyer. Don't know how this even came into my feed, but my heart goes out to that man, he totally deserved that win. Some people are just terrible in this life.
I don’t think people actually watched the entire video. He was disqualified for going into another persons lane, not for celebrating. If he celebrated in his own lane that wouldn’t have happened. Either way it’s dumb because the lane he went into the guy was done
He would've owned it if he didn't react defeated. He knows he won the race. If you don't consider yourself the victor, then you aren't. In the interview it should've said: 'Disqualified? So what? I know I won fairly. So, I want to thank those that helped me to winning this swim! I couldn't have done this without you. It was a great honor to participate!'
pretty sure we all watched the video, you're not special
Holy shit do you live in your own little world? We all know people like you would cry the hardest when stuck with a decision like this. This is not your Internet comment section where you can gloat about your fragile non existent pride. This is the real world. Stop being a fake Macho. Go outside. @@joris5429
That’s like a dick move you’d expect from a school PE teacher who always had a grudge against you during the entire school year for no reason.
@@lopez8277is your brain dented?
@@lopez8277 grow up
@@lopez8277 >> that would be cheating How is celebrating with his teammate, who had ALSO completed the race, even _slightly_ cheating?
True@@mbg4681
@@lopez8277How stupid are you?? I played soccer almost all my life, touching a ball is so different compared to cheering your win with your teammate that already finished the swim as well. You must have a rough life for being so cruel. Touching a ball is literally everything against soccer. Since you can only use your feet😭😭💀
The people that disqualified him should be ashamed of themselves
all sport judges are there for the power trip. shame is not compatible with that desire.
A young man trains hard his whole life to become the best! An old POS gets to judge him in 2 seconds, ruining everything he's worked for. Human beings suck. Society sucks. The more you know 🌈
thats what you young kids think these days. Rules are put in place in society for reasons. doesnt matter circumstance.
@@mikegrazio5376the judges could have given them all a warning before, plus it's ridiculous to disqualify someone just because they celebrated their long awaited victory 💀
God loves you all
Stupid rules like this are what kills the fun for a lot of people. When watching some of the older, more obscure sports (not necessarily talking about swimming here), they always have dumb rules that were made in the 80s and never changed for no reason. Seriously, this rule serves no good purpose. You shouldn't get punished because you and your teammate finished before some guy 3 lanes away it's dumb. If the lane he jumps to doesn't have an active swimmer, there is no reason to get him disqualified.
99% agree he won 1% Rule robots say he should be ashamed for mocking the sport
As someone who does not watch swimming, the NCAA just gave me a great reason to never watch it again.
So, no loss to them.
My thoughts as i was watching the video. It was just sad...
@@MattMcConaha Yeah one guy might not be a lot of a loss to them, but when me, him and many others do the same, thats when the damage comes
@@MattMcConaha Pure trash comment. You know this was BS. Don't be that guy.
Same
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1a. He DID NOT interfere with another swimmer. Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b. He WAS NOT an active swimmer who changed lanes during a heat. He had finished as did the other lane swimmer who had also finished. Both rules refer to active swimmers He needs a lawyer and a Go Fund Me page
All the other people in the comment section who argue against the winner saying he just “broke the rules” need to see this
@@prabhav1788 well, the majority of people that say that just want to be different that's all
@@bernardkoey4087 yeah, kinda figured they were rage-baiting anyways
I don't know for the Go Fund me (??) but the lawyer, sure.
He's an NCAA kid in 2024. He doesn't need a GoFundMe now that he can get paid for this.
this is what you get when you have brain-dead incompetent judges who does not understand the rules or the reason for said rules. Rule is to avoid interference, of which there was none in this case. The athlete should get the win back, and the judge should be banned from any more ruling after showing clear incompetence.
I hate this. Imagine getting disqualified for climbing into a competitors lane after the swimming is over.
The heat was still on going. And the rules clearly state do NOT enter another lane before the heats are over.
@@iGrindBudzYou got over 100+ comments, what a loser
Crossing into the lane of someone who is still swimming would be a reasonable disqualification. But the swimmer in the next lane had finished also. This decision is totally bonkers.
That's what I'm saying... Dude was already done and even celebrated WITH him... WTF?!?
Yup. The referee is just a power obsessive human being. This decision tells a lot of his/her character.
Was this upheld?
That other finisher WAS HIS TEAMMATE
100%
"Hey so even though you just beat your personal best by 4 seconds, won a conference championship, and punched a ticket to nationals, we couldn't help but notice that you got a little too happy about all that..."
Exactly we’re all human and it’s a stupid rule anyway!
@@billweeks9606I'm sure ladies are pleased around you
@@billweeks9606his excitement shown through him literally hopping over to celebrate with his teammate (who had already finished swimming). *Its a dumb rule.* Just accept it
@@billweeks9606it's also illegal to walk down the street with an ice cream cone in your back pocket in some states. Don't you think some rules are plain dumb?
@@billweeks9606 how bout you breakdown that rule for us? How tf did his action disrupt the race in anyway??
This was literally one of those moments where an official is free to interpret a rule as they personally see fit. The rule exists to prevent any interference of another swimmer before the race is finished. 0 swimmers were interfered with. The official is an asshole. Honestly I think the crowd should have gone on riot.
And on top of that consider the following. Some nasty competitor deliberately takes an hour to complete the heat so noone can exit the pool or they are disqualified. To all the blind sheep reciting "rules are rules", I guess you did not think of that.
Nah, it was more so the rules being shit to begin with. Judges make decisions based on the rules, and try to not do it on their own opinions, and its most likely this was always never allowed and they're just applying that. Awful, but probably absolutely not the judges fault, but whoever makes the rules for the national qualification.
@@tortoisewarrior4855100% the judges fault, making a judgement call in that situation, reaching the decision “let’s take away this kids medal for celebrating with his teammate who finished even though he interfered with no one” 🤡
Whoever decided this, should show his name and face.
@@tortoisewarrior4855 How is the rule shit? You can interfere with other swimmers, seems like a most obvious rule, Otherwise whats stopping you from kicking, punching or biting a swimmer to beat him? I agree with the judges, the race wasnt over, and hes blocking other lanes.
How could they do this to him...? That's so increcibly cruel and to a child no less. Disgusting behavior. I think some judges need to be disqualified.
He would've owned it if he didn't react defeated. In the interview he should've said: 'Disqualified hmm? So what? I know I won fairly. So, I want to thank those that helped me to winning this swim! I couldn't have done this without you. It was a great honor to participate!' If you don't consider yourself the victor, then you aren't. If you know you won, you can claim your victory for yourself
@@joris5429 That's an interesting take on it. I actually agree with you. He was young though and not mature enough to understand that.
@@nathanlee6099 its probably a bot or someone just copy and pasting the same thing ove rnd over again
wait they are a child?!??!
@@Grayson-tk5hn to me he is. lol.
its the fact that the crowd the other contestants and even the live announcers dont agree with the decision that really gets me, everyone knows the judges are in the wrong but the judges
The purpose of this rule is clearly to deter swimmers from interfering with other swimmers still racing. Both of the swimmers involved here were obviously finished with the race.
Lloyd was disqualifed under rule 5.1b and has nothing to do with interference.
@@hottuna2006 It does bro, Section 5 Article 1 A-F are ALL labeled underneath "Interference" as a subsection to Fouls as a whole. It is quite literally only there so you don't unfairly interfere with other swimmers, going into a lane that has a swimmer that has already finished and is totally fine celebrating with you is not interference.
Could you please explain what the rule means instead of just sighting its number? I can't seem to find a list of rules for competitive swimming that has this numeration @@hottuna2006
@@chaotikkiller1617 not to mention the other swimmer was on his own team too
but the race wasn't over yet. You clearing don't understand racing, and I hope you try to race one day in any sport because its timeless tradition, that doesn't change for any generation, especially this one.
His team mate is a legend for standing up and defending his team mate.
I wished I could see how he stayed on podium for the second, leaving the top empty. Did that happen?
His teammate did what he was supposed to do.
Class act.
Using the word legend loosely… I bet you call your mom a legend for her driving you to school.
@@sforza209those are 2 complete different scenario’s
I mean the rule makes sense, and if he wouldve went into a lane where a swimmer was still swimming it wouldve been deserved, but the refs are literally there to apply the rules reasonably, since the other swimmer had already finished this was all very fair and really sad to watch
The sportsmanship of the 2nd place... immediately gained my respect even though I don't watch people swim and I did not know who he was.
Props for the judge for letting 3.5M people witness greatness opposed to a few thousand
His reaction made it worth it
Great point 👉
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Big law suit , who made that decision? Its not like that lane was still swimming
Sorry, pal. Your backhanded wit gets a you a forehanded rebuke: There's no sport without competitors. Like so many other things, it's all about RESPECT.
I just imagine the NCAA Officials smiling as he's breaking down. Legit scumbags for doing this.
What does that stand for?
National Collegiate Athletics Association@@gunnar1797
@@gunnar1797 National Collegiate Athletics Association. They are the governing body for college sports in the US
It's not the NCAA. It's ACC officials in this case.
It's most likely retaliation towards NC State by disgruntled ACC members. NC State has the current head of the ACC and all the big schools (Clemson, UNC, FSU) have a grudge against him for various reasons related to other sports@@rustytutton9473
The referee is like that one kid who reminds the teacher about the homework
I got chills when Dent was angrily exclaiming how the other guy beat him fair and square. Absolutely insane how everything you can imagine gets ruined by power hungry people who just get a kick out of ruining other people's lives.
The #2 kid showed great courage of conviction.........a real team mate and a real man.
Absolutely. Impressive young man.
W mans
Dang it even sounds like the lady announcer was going to cry at the end
100%. He in protest stated he would not accept the default win, as Owen was the one who deserved the win.
ya man, imagine how embarrassing it is for the #2 swimmer, who didn't win #1 due to skill, and Owen didn't cheat nor disrupt. Like anyone who is the #2 swimmer will know they didn't earn the medal, as witnessed LIVE on TV. Judges clearly didn't think this through and made a haste, lack of human element, decision. similar case of DQ on technicality but Don Calhoun "He Made A Million Dollar Shot And They Didn't Want To Pay Him". Even if "legally right", Michael Joran still felt its wrong.
Whoever disqualified him should be fired
the coach of the swimmer still in the pool probably issued the challenge and the rule is the rule.
@@MoonDirectedTarot oh please give me a break. Whatever petty IDIOT disqualified him SHOULD be fired. Period.
Or at least receive the harsh judgement of the people in his home town.
@@MoonDirectedTarot - So the "LOSERS" affected this kids win? THAT sounds logical.....😏🤤
😂😂😂
how dare he celebrate and enjoy himself in such a serious event
Imagine if you win first place in a Marathon but then have to wait for hours until the last person crosses before you can celebrate. Very dumb rule.
For the teammate defending that excellent swimmer, that is a hell of a good example of sportsmanship.
I wouldn’t wanna win that way, even it means gold medal and higher price. Especially if it’s our own friend that we know so well
He's sticking up for his teammate. If it were a guy from another team, *then* it would've been a "hell of a good example of sportsmanship".
He's a great white knight lol
he would be hated if he didn't react the way he did
Outstanding sportsmanship.
The swimmer he "interefered with" was done swimming and was congratulating him. What a disgrace to the sport to make a call like that.
Nope, its just the application of the rules. The swimmer knew the rules. If he didn't like the rules, he should chose another sport. Every sport, btw, have the same 'seemingly' bonker rules. EVERY sport!
@@evertvdb000the rule is for interference with another swimmer for crossing the line, the swimmer already finished therefore he didnt intervene with the swimmer. this was literally either a dude with poor eyesight or argueing that crossing affects everyone at the swiming pool
@@bandi642he still crossed the line before the whole race ended so he's guilty
@@itdobelikedattho8112unnecessary
@bandi642 Others hadn't finished the race yet...
Epic performance from Lloyd, epic sportsmanship from Ross, epic fail from the judges. Everything here is epic in one way or another.
Seeing him so broken like that is awful, man.
New rule for any sports players in 2024: Anyone caught winning will be immediately disqualified!!!
winning is incredibly unfair for the other athletes, as it immediately ensures that they will lose. this is very bad sportsmanship and should be punished severely
@@brightblackhole2442you’d be an amazing swimming judge
lol The judge should be disqualified and sanctioned, and permanently barred from judging. The winning swimmer committed no violations.
dumb.... just like you are finish a marathon... and you can't celebrate till everybody finish the finish lines... dumb rule... the swimmers should become lawyers. Do the judge know all the US rules/articles?
They have no problem with a dude pretending to be a female but celebrating that’s just not allowed 🤦🏻♂️
His teammate was a class act with that " he will be getting that medal"
Totally agree
well I don't want to be that guy but.... I'm a terrible human being and even I wouldn't want that hunk of metal, It doesn't feel earned, where's the pride in it?
that alone is enough for both to earn
@@bungiecrimes7247 What do you mean
@@qqy He means the guy who came in second, he wouldn't want the medal because he didn't deserve it, Lloyd deserves it
just stole a kids dreams away from him. wow. You can hear the anger in the commentators voice right at the end of the video.
Obviously someone was paid to be cartoonishly evil
Props to the guy who said he wasn't gonna take the glory while they snatched the obvious winner's dreams away. The referees made a fool out of that event and themselves.
i wouldnt do that, and he never did, he won it fair and square.
@@goodbyemr.anderson5065what do you mean, I hope you aren’t saying he didn’t give it to him. Cause they both came out and said that it was given to him, it’s in his room. It went to the rightful winner
@@zealotdraws3017Your overuse of pronouns makes it impossible to follow what you are saying.
@@philipmccracken697 no it doesn't lol
@@philipmccracken6973rd grader reading comprehension skills
"Interference with another swimmer" implies that you interfered with their qualifying time. Both swimmers were obviously finished at this point.
Rules exist.
So does logic @@planetvegan7843
@@planetvegan7843and so do stupid rules. This is one of them
@@planetvegan7843 only idiots follow idiotic rules
@@planetvegan7843they do exist, well done. Job done. Black and white thinking in place. Clearly you are a great team member in whatever job you do. Anyone would be happy to have you.
Its strange to demand a dq when the swimmer didn't interfere with anyone actively swimming. They should just give him a reprimand, not a dq. That's crazy
Man no one was even swimming in that lane when he went in there. Fire the refs.
IF he'd crossed into a swimmer's lane who hadn't finished that ruling would be accurate. But no interference took place... WTF...
The judges are correct. You don't go into another lane or get out until all swimmers have finished. That's the rule and he would be aware of it. He screwed up.
@@fireskycam9889 read the rule book again
@@fireskycam9889 The rule might state for interference, but no other swimmer in that race would have been affected by what he was doing, the lane he fell into was finished too. I could understand if he was still swimming but should not have been a dq
@@fireskycam9889 Stop being a spaniel you're whole life. Rules are there to remedy problems - not to be blindly adhered to. The point of the rule is to stop interference between swimmers - yet he went into the lane of a FINISHED swimmer.
So the kid so much better than the others that he had the time to finish, realize he won, see he has an incredible time, go over a lane scream how happy proud he is before dropping in the other lane that already finished. BUT when he did there was still people not finished and that wen't agaisn't him? He won. He did nothing wrong. Judge is a morron.
The judges should all be fired with no severance pay.
It's the judge's duty to announce when someone has broken a rule (it's their job), a very easy concept to grasp. Yes?
@@user-sh4qc8ck4yshut up virgin
@@user-sh4qc8ck4y It is also the judge's duty to apply common sense for applying said rules. A very easy concept to grasp. Yes?
Yes, but please refrain from stealing my identity.@@ennieminymoo6675
First of all, restrain yourself from mimicking me (it's not funny), secondly the rulebook isn't a human it doesn't have emotions therefore it doesn't care about your moral feeling towards the disqualification of a person that you don't even know personally, and with all of that said I think you should ..-. ..- -.-. -.-/ --- ..-. ..-.
W Lloyd | W teammate | W crowd | L referee