Sid Lowe APPLAUDS Swedish FA for rejecting VAR | ESPN FC The ESPN FC crew react to Sid Lowe’s strong thoughts on Swedish FA rejecting VAR after clubs raised objections. #espnfc #fc #espn
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It is amazing how quickly we've forgotten all the issues the game had before VAR that were alleviated. Sure, we can talk about players looking for contact in the penalty box, but remember that before VAR it was a valid strategy to just flop and if the ref fell for it there was no way out no matter how obvious. Or look up something like Arnautovic's red card in Sweden v Austria (featuring Elmander). That's the kind of garbage we used to have that isn't viable anymore. Is VAR perfect? Of course not. Could it be implemented better? Of course. But anyone who thinks that football has gotten less fair because of VAR is completely deluded.
@DrZaius314111 күн бұрын
Also, believing that going from 94% to 97% isn't massive is too ignorant to realize that this HALVES the amount of mistakes. That's massive. Because of those 94% correct decisions, the vast majority wouldn't even be contested. So when it comes to actual decisions, the increase is even more noticeable.
@DrZaius314111 күн бұрын
VAR is awesome!
@peacefulliberal564111 күн бұрын
@@DrZaius3141 I was gobsmacked hearing this, that someone was allowed to not only spew anecdotal stats out on a professional network, but then to completely misrepresent the change as a 3% change when it was a 50% difference!!!
@ShutThePuck11 күн бұрын
You are right. It's a question of implementation. Not the fact that it enhances the referee's ability to make crucial decisions based on better information capture.
@Iron-Bridge11 күн бұрын
I don’t care if it improves accuracy of decisions. It still should be scrapped. People have less tolerance for referee decisions because of VAR. You can’t celebrate goals anymore.
@environm3ntalist54911 күн бұрын
Before VAR injustices were definitely happening all over the place. This Sid guy is insane.
@haitiancreolewithluciano11 күн бұрын
Given, now only Real is the ultimate benefactor, so one thing didn't change
@companyofcules11 күн бұрын
Stfu. Real lives in your undeveloped brain 24/7🤡
@JohnC-iz2dg11 күн бұрын
Injustices were real but subjectively they were more often genuine mistakes - now Var with its million replays and angles have NO EXCUSE to be using subjective opinion in the game Indeed the rules have actually been streamlined to help Var succeed, ie HANDBALL is HANDBALL but for a very few definitive rules like hands at the players side. Instead the player can do whatever he likes if he plays for Man City and the response is "not for me" Arsenal player can play basketball ball in his area to stop Salah scoring and it's fine. That's not a mistake it's something far more sinister
@sugarsaint11 күн бұрын
@@companyofculesReal Madrid has the highest number of goals dissallowed by far (i mean goals that Real Madrid score). You are categorically wrong.
@filipcar9611 күн бұрын
@@sugarsaint What you're describing is not so much of a VAR problem as it is a "Rule Around Var" problem. If you have a corrupt league like the EPL, of course you'll have tons of problems even with VAR - but now referees don't have the excuses that they had before - like "We only have a split second to make a call". At least, now we have an explanation for their bad calls - and can't claim that it's because they were under pressure - or the action happened too fast - or too far. Remember, if the teams want the rules of the league to change, they will. But this is not a problem with VAR specifically. You're right in that rules around handball need to be less subjective. We also need to keep tabs on referees that make questionable calls - vet, and sanction them according to their performances. But, please - do not advocate for going back to "Naked eyes". I suffered a lot especially in the Barcelona days.
@haitiancreolewithluciano10 күн бұрын
VAR is not rubbish. Game was riddled before. VAR has brought improvement, not prefect, but an improvement.
@esorkinc401111 күн бұрын
Massive improvement, the robbery's that would happen every weekend were insane, and we all just had to put up with it, it was criminal at times
@ShutThePuck11 күн бұрын
No it hasn’t / may get a % of more decisions right but it’s ruining the game as way to slow
@tvgcmma921511 күн бұрын
Nonsense. The only decisions it's getting "right" that it wasn't getting before are these marginal offsides that nobody cared about before. Now 2cm offside decisions are now the difference between wins and loses.
@russellward462410 күн бұрын
Swedish FA just trying to cut costs lol. No one thought VAR would get rid of every bad call. People believed they would be reduced greatly and they were (94% to 97% means a 50% decrease in incorrect calls). It even discourages dirty play like diving. It’s not VAR’s fault that referees are sometimes unable to use it correctly. And the argument that it prevents players from celebrating is just weird because they still do
@Kevinnn11111 күн бұрын
That is really inaccurate. Swedish FA wanted to imply VAR. The fans of the clubs voted against it. 51% rule and democracy. Has nothing to do with Swedish FA or costs
@thomas243510 күн бұрын
Exactly!! 50%! Watch next season when some calls go the wrong way. EPL voted against semi-automated offside, now they want it.
@fm_1310 күн бұрын
@@thomas2435fair enough but my point still stands that the criticism VAR gets is unwarranted
@Kevinnn11110 күн бұрын
@@Kevinnn111 I get your point. But we don’t want VAR because we think it ruins the emotions of the game. Mistakes are part of football and it feels very good to celebrate a goal knowing it won’t be ruled out after a 5 minute check where they draw sketchy lines. Also, in Sweden, VAR would be way worse than in the bigger leagues because of available camera angles and so on. So it’s not because of the incorrect calls that we don’t want it, it’s because it ruins the emotions we believe.
@thomas24359 күн бұрын
We also don’t have goal line technology which I think would be good, but many in sweden see it as a gateway to introducing VAR and I also agree with that
@thomas24359 күн бұрын
Stevie is completely right and it’s very refreshing seeing someone who’s older and played the game so long ago being on the side of technology
@voidoflife705811 күн бұрын
Appoint Afcon VAR officials to train them! Not one controversy throughout the tournament.
@kennyogunbekun246611 күн бұрын
We aren't now going to pretend that the controversies with VAR are the same with out VAR. It's also still new there is so much left to be done to improve it. but even this version is better than before
@briansanchez669911 күн бұрын
Sid’s archaic approach and old school football mentality is legit like saying, “yes 10 percent of weapons went past airport security, so therefore we don’t need airport security whatsoever.” Soooo delusional
@jmehd10 күн бұрын
Why was VAR working so well at AFCON but not in Europe?
@intelysisconsultants825311 күн бұрын
Maybe because they don't mess around, they're tough.
@youtubeee842610 күн бұрын
VAR is an absolute mess in England.
@JackPaul-vs3bq10 күн бұрын
Stevie on 🎯, we just need to improve how var is used
@user-zn4hs8ky5q11 күн бұрын
Sid is right - actual match going fans have been polled and they're mostly against VAR. Those who sit at home don't have the same experience.
@AM2K210 күн бұрын
Well said Stevie, VAR is a MUST & here to stay. It has improved the game but is only not perfect because of the incompetent referees using the technology. Imagine if a clear offside was the difference between winning the title/surviving relegation but it was missed cos there was no technology, wonder how Sid would be feeling after that…
@GOATBryan1011 күн бұрын
So we're spotting things we haven't spotted before, to make it a fairer game; and that's wrong. Got it.
@davidt395611 күн бұрын
It's 2024, every country that can afford it should have VAR involved. This whole anti-VAR message is really odd. The problem lies not with the actual technology, but with those who operate it.
@spikyturtle5411 күн бұрын
VAR has been around in Rugby and Cricket since the beginning of time. It's simple, easy and frankly normal. It's 2024...
@shawncook32311 күн бұрын
Completely different sports
@environm3ntalist54911 күн бұрын
Sid is expecting VAR to completely wipe out human error, but how can it when it's human operated.
@benban805511 күн бұрын
it's exhausting when people look at the incompetency and decide "VAR IS BAD!" and not "PGMOL IS BAD!!!" when so much of the problems with VAR happens in england and not other leagues.
@DisillusionedAcronym11 күн бұрын
The problem is not with technology but the officials using it. VAR was so aptly used during the African cup of nations. There were no controversial decisions during the AFCON because of VAR. I thing the UEFA has to probably give refresher courses on the technology.
@ngashuwilliamseyongegbe837610 күн бұрын
I can't believe we are having this discussion, VAR is not perfect but it is miles ahead of what we used to have..
@azzanqk90810 күн бұрын
I guess this means they prefer to spontaneously celebrate goals offside than not so spontaneously celebrate fair goals 🤷♂️
@the_twowheel_turtle93411 күн бұрын
VAR is not about making the game perfect. As long as theres a net positife its worth it which there is. And as time goes on theyll continually improve it such as semi automated offside. It is the way forward. We cant go back now
@redflamelcd11 күн бұрын
LMAO SID HIGH SCHOOL PHOTO LOOKING LIKE A HOGWARTS STUDENT
@Wayfa4011 күн бұрын
I think VAR and replays can still be effective while maintaining game flow if some restrictions are made (Limited zoom/slo-mo and if there isn’t anything clear/obvious after 20 seconds, play on)
@sanbell11 күн бұрын
as much as all these comments are against Sid, I think he has a very valid point. The idea that football had to be "fixed" is the root of most of these problems with VAR right now
@dead_r33d11 күн бұрын
I hate that technology with all my heart. It messed up the beautiful game
@nhlakaniphomkhize1089 күн бұрын
I completely agree with Sid here. VAR has fundamentally changed the best moment in sports - the moment when your team scores a goal. It used to be such a wonderful explosion of joy - now it’s yay-oh-uh well now let’s wait to see if what we just watched will actually count. And we still have just as much controversy about bad calls now as we used to.
@abanb11 күн бұрын
The best moments in sports happen with fairness stop it nobody wants to see people diving everytime their in the box
@dfynestmax871610 күн бұрын
Utter drivel from Lowe. VAR has cut down massively on bad calls. Football was getting farcial before it, just a total lottery. VAR is still in its early stages, give it time. And get people who can use it properly, unlike the PL.
@gomey7011 күн бұрын
true as a spurs fan i am happy that a liverpool fan is saying this. VAR is great.
@harrismazari548410 күн бұрын
Sid saying going from 94% to 97% correct decisions thanks to VAR isn't good enough, well that literally means that the amount of wrong decisions has been reduced by 50% though..
@Kuddochan10 күн бұрын
VAR is a benefit to the game, there's always going to be subjective decisions that people wont like regardless. I can't count the amount of people I've seen wrongly enraged over VAR. People will always look for someone to blame. The ref Is ultimately responsible for bad decisions, VAR reduces this. The pack mentally you see from enraged people grouping together over perceived injustices is outrageous. It's understandable when things are objectively wrong but it's often a matter of opinion (dus the 'clear and obvious'). There would be more objectively wrong decisions without VAR. Some people need to wake up to that reality. People praising Sweden for this are wrong to do so. It's a poor idea to ultimately not reduce bad decisions overall. Accountability on controversial decisions is what I would call out for, based on how often refs or VAR officials make dubious decisions. They should be demoted to lower leagues or potentially face being sacked. An open merit system on bad/good officiating if you will. Accountability for the individuals, not the removal of the tools (VAR) that ultimately help more than they hinder. P.S- Please don't engage me in the replies, I've said my thoughts on the matter. Not looking to debate or converse about it with others.
@TheMainAnon11 күн бұрын
Stevie is completely right. And I don't get ppl like sid saying var massively effects games badly like its a fact. Games feel almost the same to me as before. Few more stoppages to get the right calls... Big deal
@andyb283011 күн бұрын
Sid is completely wrong. Stevie is absolutely right.
@cpttreebeard911211 күн бұрын
No, they are both wrong, I am the only one right, and that is 100% of the time, all the time.
@mnemonija11 күн бұрын
It’s a liability, are you kidding?
@user-bf1bd6kf4z11 күн бұрын
He reminds me of that Japanese soldier that hasn’t realized WW2 ended 27-30 years ago. It’s like bro you lost, move on.
@rh8145411 күн бұрын
@user-mc8wi2lg2m Nope
@rh8145411 күн бұрын
Sid is right. Stevie is right.
@myp0h11 күн бұрын
goal line technology, and that's it. Beyond that VAR is unnecessary. Oh, and getting GOOD referees and linesmen.
@ferrantepallas10 күн бұрын
We need to see more of Sid. Intelligent writer.
@caspiadegrelle842111 күн бұрын
Unfortunately a lot of fans here in Sweden are against VAR (which is why the FA has not been able to go through with it).
@noellinder9910 күн бұрын
Don't need VAR? Tell it to Ireland
@anatoliybakaev60011 күн бұрын
VAR is an improvement on the game. How the different leagues use it, however, leaves a lot questions rather than answers.
@ebenezermarboh584910 күн бұрын
There's no debate. VAR needs to be in the game. End of story
@jurgenkriess84089 күн бұрын
Sid is an amazing journalist. I completely agree with him and his points. VAR has really killed my enjoyment of the game. I notice that I watch less football now.
@musy34511 күн бұрын
4:52 "clear and obvious" not being exactly that is NOT an issue with VAR. It's an issue of interpretation of footballing laws. If anything, VAR has made us realize that many of our laws rely on interpretation and hence, need reworking.
@IT70719 күн бұрын
VAR issues have to fixed. It is ruining the game While it has fixed few things…
@pallavpurkayastha11 күн бұрын
With all the problems that we've had with the VAR it's still better than no VAR at all. I think the biggest problem of the VAR is all of this nonsense about "is it really clear and obvious" and "the VAR must not re-referee the game" that created this grey area that people can use to justify all kinds of calls. At the end the person that sees the most should have the possibility to evaluate the game on his own without having to consider if there may be a reason why the original call by the referee might not be totally wrong. The VAR needs more responsibility not less.
@user-ws5sw9gu7f10 күн бұрын
The subtle "hates VAR" below Sid's name 😂😂😂🙈
@user-tm3kq5sb3l10 күн бұрын
VAR just gives you the opportunity to revisit some genuine refreeing mistakes, the final decision is for the refree to make. VAR has drastically improved refreeing and there is no going back. Its a new tech and it will improve. Me as a fan i don't wanna lose games and trophies because of refreeing mistakes.
@YeneTubeMedia-ts9cv11 күн бұрын
Does VAR help refs make more accurate calls absolutely. I just prefer it without VAR because refs messing up brought an extra level of excitement to the game. The refs calls brought another dynamic to the game, it was like a mystery box you just didn’t know what you would get and honestly it was fun
@non45211 күн бұрын
Fixed time!!!! Pause the clock whenever it goes out of play and thats it.
@timberhoff10 күн бұрын
Do you remember the Goal from Maradona against England (the Hand of God). Some people forgot the 80 and 90 with al the weird goals and hard fouls.
@babbaunited588210 күн бұрын
true if there was var back then england would ahve lost 5-1 as they wouldn't have been able to kick maradonna as much as they were able to.
@harrismazari548410 күн бұрын
Just have an appeal system like cricket; three appeals and if it’s a good call they keep them, if it’s a false one you lose your chances.
@intheinterestofthings284810 күн бұрын
Where would Varca and Varchester be without it? 😂
@awesome1ru8 күн бұрын
I’d like to see VAR of the Swedish FA rejection VAR.
@finbarrmcgrath168611 күн бұрын
It definitely feels it disrupts the game. I also think its changing how players play the game. Trying to look for things like PKs rather than play and score.
@mllohrma10 күн бұрын
Players were diving since foerver
@stefan573010 күн бұрын
VAR should be used like tennis or cricket. Give the captains and managers the right to send the ref to the monitor 2 times every game (you only lose if the decsion isn't changed). And semi-automated offsides. Will add a new dimension to the game. will take expenditure on extra var officials etc and will put the onius on the team to get their decisions checked.
@harrismazari548410 күн бұрын
Zlatans height sees everything from above and only through zlatans approval can a goal be allowed😂
@billymaseko869111 күн бұрын
Get rid of it. Cant celebrate a goal anymore. Its runied the best part of the game
@ciaran858711 күн бұрын
I’m sure VAR will helpus on the road to endless but perfect and controversy free 0 -0 games with perfect attacking and defending BORING
@shantydoctor11 күн бұрын
If you saw Chukwueze's disallowed goal vs Sassuolo the other week you'll know automatic offside isn't perfect either
@glesgagreg225511 күн бұрын
When decisions go against teams, they'll miss VAR.
@mukundbalasubramanian122911 күн бұрын
VAR, Very Annoying Regulations. Needs to go. If not, it needs to be implemented correctly by the officials. Too many grey areas with the current rules.
@mushypee110 күн бұрын
Pundits and commentators keep saying "we need to use var betrer"... but var in EPL gs in complete shambles. Howard web and PGMOL are responsible
@user-mz9dv4js5j9 күн бұрын
As a fan. Try celebrating a goal these days...you need to wait 5mins to see if it is a goal or not.
@lesgourlay624010 күн бұрын
VAR has been a mess! 😂
@JackPaul-vs3bq10 күн бұрын
VAR as is belongs in the bin. There are at most four things video assist should be used for imo. Goal line technology, fully automated offside decisions, finding hidden red card worthy offenses and clearing up cases of mistaken identity. In short VAR should only deal with things that either don't break the flow of the game or that truly violate the spirit of the game. Everything else should be in the hand of the on-field referee with no outside interference. Yes, there will be a few more wrong decisions, but real football isn't a factory product, it's entertainment. And human imperfections are a significant part of what entertains people. With music most studio produced songs are arguably better than listening to a live performance if we are talking about audio quality and yet listening to a band in person is a far better experience even if the singer messes up a note, the lead guitar misses a beat and the audio equipment isn't tuned to perfection. Same with art, something fully computer generated without human input doesn't speak to us on the same level as what a painter can do, because of the human imperfections and idiosyncrasies. With football all the wrong decisions we argue about are part of the entertainment. Of course you want as few as possible, but if they occur in the heat of the moment and just because of human limitations and not gross incompetence we can accept it if we enjoy it live. What kills the enjoyment is celebrating a goal only to watch the referee stand around for a minute and then run to some screen and decide wherher to award the goal because of a supposed foul somewhere. Stop treating football as something you order on Amazon and from which you can expect perfection and treat it as the human live performance it is.
@bearzerger10 күн бұрын
Refs are already awful. You want to remove something holding refs accountable.
@loganhenderson65011 күн бұрын
VAR was supposed to help better decisions but they are not. Most times they backed up wrong decisions of the referees or didn’t intervene because not “clear and obvious”
@suhaimimanaf10 күн бұрын
The proof we all needed for way too long: the guy is out of his mind.
@lacko22311 күн бұрын
Just keep goal line technology. In the past it was easier to accept a refs mistake. Now fans are always baying for blood
@njabulombuyazi513210 күн бұрын
VAR for the lines only, those constant interruptions are against the very nature of the game.
@HgHg-yp6ft11 күн бұрын
Just use var when the goal is on the line or over the line..handball in the penalty should only be consistent enough for referee to judge whether it's ball to hand or hand to ball.. handballs outside the box need not have to use VAR..it's the referee decision without the var .
@RazeefRazeff10 күн бұрын
Replays have helped the nba for decades
@allanawanyo496611 күн бұрын
Sweden is correct. Technology can’t fix everything and clearly it hasn’t. VAR even with replay even with the thousands of angles even with extra people looking at it have still messed up horribly. It is no different mistakes were had before VAR and they are being made with them also.
@joekrumsee91510 күн бұрын
IT should be rejected at this moment in time, the powers at the top use it too loosely.
@linsithebe708011 күн бұрын
VAR worked well for us Scousers this year , just watch the Spurs game again and get back to him lads!!
@padraiglocke884411 күн бұрын
Var will improve if the people using it new what they were doing .Better usage like rugby union .
@ashleymoore906310 күн бұрын
then again should we trust the opinions of someone who can't spell knew
@harrismazari548410 күн бұрын
Clear and obvious error. That is the key, in my opinion. VAR should only be involved when they spot a clear and obvious error from the referee. A penalty that takes more than 30 seconds to decide is not clear and obvious. An offside that takes different color lines on the pitch and players' body to check is not clear and obvious. A red card foul that takes multiple viewing at 5 different angles at super slo mo is not clear and obvious. A handball that requires the camera to zoom 400% to find the mark between shoulder and arm is not clear and obvious. A clear and obvious error should only takes one replay viewing in less than 10 seconds to notice. If not clear and obvious, ruling on the pitch stands.
@abuluqman854210 күн бұрын
To any denier of VAR: Let me hear that strong argument when you get a goal against you on a final and it should’ve been disallowed 😉
@SynysterNick9 күн бұрын
Why is everybody having a go at Sid. He's just voicing his opinion. How many people on here have moaned about the decisions, week in, week out.
@lesgourlay624010 күн бұрын
5:01 like the Barca ghost goal
@IAmJeka11 күн бұрын
Geez people football has existed for over 100 years without var, and lived with refereeing decisions... which contributed to the excitement and passion of watching a game. Every decision doesn't have to be analysed down to a science
@user-mz9dv4js5j9 күн бұрын
Var has killed the fan experience. I rather run the risk of my team having a decision go against them due to referee making an error and I will be able to enjoy football again
@user-mz9dv4js5j9 күн бұрын
VAR may get a % of more decisions right but it’s ruining the game as way to slow in making a decision and way to many stoppages
@tvgcmma921511 күн бұрын
VAR is not perfect. It needs improvement. But, there is no way we r going back...
@shahriartanvir97711 күн бұрын
Sid Lowe "Really hate VAR" hahahaha well played ESPN!
@RedViper911 күн бұрын
What about goal line technology
@dylanleeling164011 күн бұрын
fantastic statement about VAR. VAR WAS THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENED TO FOOTBALL
@alfaith255310 күн бұрын
and the gambling houses rejoiced they thought that point shaving was a dying art they are so back baby
@clachdhearg210911 күн бұрын
They know Malmo would never win the league again🤣🤣
@onlyinmzansi678411 күн бұрын
Sid Lowe is such a top journalist. I don't agree with him on this particular issue, but he puts his thoughts and opinions across very, very well. Love listening to him.
@kwabenaagyenim754711 күн бұрын
Sid is just a romantic. He believes we should be fine if referees make a wrong decision and the whole world accepts it as sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn’t. It’s an extremely personal and short-sighted point of view. In this day and age, if officials don’t look at replays, you can 100% bet every news channel, media outlet, YT creator, etc will look at replays and will bring a tremendous amount of pressure to bear on referee performance. Can you imagine if Maradona’s Hand of God happened today and there was still no VAR? Do you think with media being so much more present and immediate today you could tell England the same “just accept it” line? Before the game was over, replays would be going, clips of the handball from stadium spectators would start going viral on Twitter, etc. Maybe even before the game is over, the referee’s head would be demanded. And Sid thinks that scenario is fine. That if a handball eliminates a country from the World Cup, that’s fine because it otherwise interrupts game flow. He’s English but I doubt he speaks for England in this case.
@thisismarkmac10 күн бұрын
haven't heard a worst take on anything in a while, wow just wow
@erwinditer45010 күн бұрын
How about you simply have better refs AND VAR? Only the EPL has got as much issues with it. EPL is not a good example. Take notice of other leagues such as Bundesliga or La Liga. They have introduced VAR almost perfectly... those league simply have much higher quality refs than the EPL does.
@ThomasSamoth-ls8ed11 күн бұрын
Sid just be yapping
@crimnvL11 күн бұрын
not a big fan of VAR but now swedish fans have to accept that referees makes mistakes !!
@boulieontour10 күн бұрын
Don’t do away with var lots of mistakes caught
@kalohpaul410011 күн бұрын
It's like people who complaing about VAR don't understand there are humans behind it. There's nothing wrong with the system....humnas will just always make mistakes.
@jeanjacqueslundi350210 күн бұрын
Never forget Chelsea vs Barcelona, thats why we need VAR
@PlurLife76510 күн бұрын
Good job Sweden 🇸🇪 👏 👍
@judecio455410 күн бұрын
We need a VAR Lite, because I fundamentally don't like offsides because of 'a toe', or something of the same ilk.
@biggdogg619611 күн бұрын
WOOHOO go Sweden!!!! Sport is entertainment. Does VAR make the sport more or less entertaining? Less. SO, so much less. Instead of a wrong decision, we get to wait 5 min for a wrong decision. And why is Stevie defending VAR? His Liverpool lost the title (10+ points) to refs/VAR, not City or Arsenal (ie Doku high booting McAllister in the Chest, Luis Diaz "offside", Odegaard handball, Gakpo live ball). We tried VAR, it hasn't worked, so let's try automated offsides and maybe--like goal-line tech--it'll be ok and a good addition. Isn't VAR just the FA trying to cover themselves legally after getting sued by relegated clubs a couple years back? I mean seriously this is crazy.
@hadenwesley65488 күн бұрын
Sid is on point.
@timredshaw924111 күн бұрын
Unbelievable....all these fans are then the ones that cry out corruption or conspiracy theories when a ref gets a decision wrong.
@lac227511 күн бұрын
I like it a lot even though nobody watches swedish football anyways
It is amazing how quickly we've forgotten all the issues the game had before VAR that were alleviated. Sure, we can talk about players looking for contact in the penalty box, but remember that before VAR it was a valid strategy to just flop and if the ref fell for it there was no way out no matter how obvious. Or look up something like Arnautovic's red card in Sweden v Austria (featuring Elmander). That's the kind of garbage we used to have that isn't viable anymore. Is VAR perfect? Of course not. Could it be implemented better? Of course. But anyone who thinks that football has gotten less fair because of VAR is completely deluded.
Also, believing that going from 94% to 97% isn't massive is too ignorant to realize that this HALVES the amount of mistakes. That's massive. Because of those 94% correct decisions, the vast majority wouldn't even be contested. So when it comes to actual decisions, the increase is even more noticeable.
VAR is awesome!
@@DrZaius3141 I was gobsmacked hearing this, that someone was allowed to not only spew anecdotal stats out on a professional network, but then to completely misrepresent the change as a 3% change when it was a 50% difference!!!
You are right. It's a question of implementation. Not the fact that it enhances the referee's ability to make crucial decisions based on better information capture.
I don’t care if it improves accuracy of decisions. It still should be scrapped. People have less tolerance for referee decisions because of VAR. You can’t celebrate goals anymore.
Before VAR injustices were definitely happening all over the place. This Sid guy is insane.
Given, now only Real is the ultimate benefactor, so one thing didn't change
Stfu. Real lives in your undeveloped brain 24/7🤡
Injustices were real but subjectively they were more often genuine mistakes - now Var with its million replays and angles have NO EXCUSE to be using subjective opinion in the game Indeed the rules have actually been streamlined to help Var succeed, ie HANDBALL is HANDBALL but for a very few definitive rules like hands at the players side. Instead the player can do whatever he likes if he plays for Man City and the response is "not for me" Arsenal player can play basketball ball in his area to stop Salah scoring and it's fine. That's not a mistake it's something far more sinister
@@companyofculesReal Madrid has the highest number of goals dissallowed by far (i mean goals that Real Madrid score). You are categorically wrong.
@@sugarsaint What you're describing is not so much of a VAR problem as it is a "Rule Around Var" problem. If you have a corrupt league like the EPL, of course you'll have tons of problems even with VAR - but now referees don't have the excuses that they had before - like "We only have a split second to make a call". At least, now we have an explanation for their bad calls - and can't claim that it's because they were under pressure - or the action happened too fast - or too far. Remember, if the teams want the rules of the league to change, they will. But this is not a problem with VAR specifically. You're right in that rules around handball need to be less subjective. We also need to keep tabs on referees that make questionable calls - vet, and sanction them according to their performances. But, please - do not advocate for going back to "Naked eyes". I suffered a lot especially in the Barcelona days.
VAR is not rubbish. Game was riddled before. VAR has brought improvement, not prefect, but an improvement.
Massive improvement, the robbery's that would happen every weekend were insane, and we all just had to put up with it, it was criminal at times
No it hasn’t / may get a % of more decisions right but it’s ruining the game as way to slow
Nonsense. The only decisions it's getting "right" that it wasn't getting before are these marginal offsides that nobody cared about before. Now 2cm offside decisions are now the difference between wins and loses.
Swedish FA just trying to cut costs lol. No one thought VAR would get rid of every bad call. People believed they would be reduced greatly and they were (94% to 97% means a 50% decrease in incorrect calls). It even discourages dirty play like diving. It’s not VAR’s fault that referees are sometimes unable to use it correctly. And the argument that it prevents players from celebrating is just weird because they still do
That is really inaccurate. Swedish FA wanted to imply VAR. The fans of the clubs voted against it. 51% rule and democracy. Has nothing to do with Swedish FA or costs
Exactly!! 50%! Watch next season when some calls go the wrong way. EPL voted against semi-automated offside, now they want it.
@@thomas2435fair enough but my point still stands that the criticism VAR gets is unwarranted
@@Kevinnn111 I get your point. But we don’t want VAR because we think it ruins the emotions of the game. Mistakes are part of football and it feels very good to celebrate a goal knowing it won’t be ruled out after a 5 minute check where they draw sketchy lines. Also, in Sweden, VAR would be way worse than in the bigger leagues because of available camera angles and so on. So it’s not because of the incorrect calls that we don’t want it, it’s because it ruins the emotions we believe.
We also don’t have goal line technology which I think would be good, but many in sweden see it as a gateway to introducing VAR and I also agree with that
Stevie is completely right and it’s very refreshing seeing someone who’s older and played the game so long ago being on the side of technology
Appoint Afcon VAR officials to train them! Not one controversy throughout the tournament.
We aren't now going to pretend that the controversies with VAR are the same with out VAR. It's also still new there is so much left to be done to improve it. but even this version is better than before
Sid’s archaic approach and old school football mentality is legit like saying, “yes 10 percent of weapons went past airport security, so therefore we don’t need airport security whatsoever.” Soooo delusional
Why was VAR working so well at AFCON but not in Europe?
Maybe because they don't mess around, they're tough.
VAR is an absolute mess in England.
Stevie on 🎯, we just need to improve how var is used
Sid is right - actual match going fans have been polled and they're mostly against VAR. Those who sit at home don't have the same experience.
Well said Stevie, VAR is a MUST & here to stay. It has improved the game but is only not perfect because of the incompetent referees using the technology. Imagine if a clear offside was the difference between winning the title/surviving relegation but it was missed cos there was no technology, wonder how Sid would be feeling after that…
So we're spotting things we haven't spotted before, to make it a fairer game; and that's wrong. Got it.
It's 2024, every country that can afford it should have VAR involved. This whole anti-VAR message is really odd. The problem lies not with the actual technology, but with those who operate it.
VAR has been around in Rugby and Cricket since the beginning of time. It's simple, easy and frankly normal. It's 2024...
Completely different sports
Sid is expecting VAR to completely wipe out human error, but how can it when it's human operated.
it's exhausting when people look at the incompetency and decide "VAR IS BAD!" and not "PGMOL IS BAD!!!" when so much of the problems with VAR happens in england and not other leagues.
The problem is not with technology but the officials using it. VAR was so aptly used during the African cup of nations. There were no controversial decisions during the AFCON because of VAR. I thing the UEFA has to probably give refresher courses on the technology.
I can't believe we are having this discussion, VAR is not perfect but it is miles ahead of what we used to have..
I guess this means they prefer to spontaneously celebrate goals offside than not so spontaneously celebrate fair goals 🤷♂️
VAR is not about making the game perfect. As long as theres a net positife its worth it which there is. And as time goes on theyll continually improve it such as semi automated offside. It is the way forward. We cant go back now
LMAO SID HIGH SCHOOL PHOTO LOOKING LIKE A HOGWARTS STUDENT
I think VAR and replays can still be effective while maintaining game flow if some restrictions are made (Limited zoom/slo-mo and if there isn’t anything clear/obvious after 20 seconds, play on)
as much as all these comments are against Sid, I think he has a very valid point. The idea that football had to be "fixed" is the root of most of these problems with VAR right now
I hate that technology with all my heart. It messed up the beautiful game
I completely agree with Sid here. VAR has fundamentally changed the best moment in sports - the moment when your team scores a goal. It used to be such a wonderful explosion of joy - now it’s yay-oh-uh well now let’s wait to see if what we just watched will actually count. And we still have just as much controversy about bad calls now as we used to.
The best moments in sports happen with fairness stop it nobody wants to see people diving everytime their in the box
Utter drivel from Lowe. VAR has cut down massively on bad calls. Football was getting farcial before it, just a total lottery. VAR is still in its early stages, give it time. And get people who can use it properly, unlike the PL.
true as a spurs fan i am happy that a liverpool fan is saying this. VAR is great.
Sid saying going from 94% to 97% correct decisions thanks to VAR isn't good enough, well that literally means that the amount of wrong decisions has been reduced by 50% though..
VAR is a benefit to the game, there's always going to be subjective decisions that people wont like regardless. I can't count the amount of people I've seen wrongly enraged over VAR. People will always look for someone to blame. The ref Is ultimately responsible for bad decisions, VAR reduces this. The pack mentally you see from enraged people grouping together over perceived injustices is outrageous. It's understandable when things are objectively wrong but it's often a matter of opinion (dus the 'clear and obvious'). There would be more objectively wrong decisions without VAR. Some people need to wake up to that reality. People praising Sweden for this are wrong to do so. It's a poor idea to ultimately not reduce bad decisions overall. Accountability on controversial decisions is what I would call out for, based on how often refs or VAR officials make dubious decisions. They should be demoted to lower leagues or potentially face being sacked. An open merit system on bad/good officiating if you will. Accountability for the individuals, not the removal of the tools (VAR) that ultimately help more than they hinder. P.S- Please don't engage me in the replies, I've said my thoughts on the matter. Not looking to debate or converse about it with others.
Stevie is completely right. And I don't get ppl like sid saying var massively effects games badly like its a fact. Games feel almost the same to me as before. Few more stoppages to get the right calls... Big deal
Sid is completely wrong. Stevie is absolutely right.
No, they are both wrong, I am the only one right, and that is 100% of the time, all the time.
It’s a liability, are you kidding?
He reminds me of that Japanese soldier that hasn’t realized WW2 ended 27-30 years ago. It’s like bro you lost, move on.
@user-mc8wi2lg2m Nope
Sid is right. Stevie is right.
goal line technology, and that's it. Beyond that VAR is unnecessary. Oh, and getting GOOD referees and linesmen.
We need to see more of Sid. Intelligent writer.
Unfortunately a lot of fans here in Sweden are against VAR (which is why the FA has not been able to go through with it).
Don't need VAR? Tell it to Ireland
VAR is an improvement on the game. How the different leagues use it, however, leaves a lot questions rather than answers.
There's no debate. VAR needs to be in the game. End of story
Sid is an amazing journalist. I completely agree with him and his points. VAR has really killed my enjoyment of the game. I notice that I watch less football now.
4:52 "clear and obvious" not being exactly that is NOT an issue with VAR. It's an issue of interpretation of footballing laws. If anything, VAR has made us realize that many of our laws rely on interpretation and hence, need reworking.
VAR issues have to fixed. It is ruining the game While it has fixed few things…
With all the problems that we've had with the VAR it's still better than no VAR at all. I think the biggest problem of the VAR is all of this nonsense about "is it really clear and obvious" and "the VAR must not re-referee the game" that created this grey area that people can use to justify all kinds of calls. At the end the person that sees the most should have the possibility to evaluate the game on his own without having to consider if there may be a reason why the original call by the referee might not be totally wrong. The VAR needs more responsibility not less.
The subtle "hates VAR" below Sid's name 😂😂😂🙈
VAR just gives you the opportunity to revisit some genuine refreeing mistakes, the final decision is for the refree to make. VAR has drastically improved refreeing and there is no going back. Its a new tech and it will improve. Me as a fan i don't wanna lose games and trophies because of refreeing mistakes.
Does VAR help refs make more accurate calls absolutely. I just prefer it without VAR because refs messing up brought an extra level of excitement to the game. The refs calls brought another dynamic to the game, it was like a mystery box you just didn’t know what you would get and honestly it was fun
Fixed time!!!! Pause the clock whenever it goes out of play and thats it.
Do you remember the Goal from Maradona against England (the Hand of God). Some people forgot the 80 and 90 with al the weird goals and hard fouls.
true if there was var back then england would ahve lost 5-1 as they wouldn't have been able to kick maradonna as much as they were able to.
Just have an appeal system like cricket; three appeals and if it’s a good call they keep them, if it’s a false one you lose your chances.
Where would Varca and Varchester be without it? 😂
I’d like to see VAR of the Swedish FA rejection VAR.
It definitely feels it disrupts the game. I also think its changing how players play the game. Trying to look for things like PKs rather than play and score.
Players were diving since foerver
VAR should be used like tennis or cricket. Give the captains and managers the right to send the ref to the monitor 2 times every game (you only lose if the decsion isn't changed). And semi-automated offsides. Will add a new dimension to the game. will take expenditure on extra var officials etc and will put the onius on the team to get their decisions checked.
Zlatans height sees everything from above and only through zlatans approval can a goal be allowed😂
Get rid of it. Cant celebrate a goal anymore. Its runied the best part of the game
I’m sure VAR will helpus on the road to endless but perfect and controversy free 0 -0 games with perfect attacking and defending BORING
If you saw Chukwueze's disallowed goal vs Sassuolo the other week you'll know automatic offside isn't perfect either
When decisions go against teams, they'll miss VAR.
VAR, Very Annoying Regulations. Needs to go. If not, it needs to be implemented correctly by the officials. Too many grey areas with the current rules.
Pundits and commentators keep saying "we need to use var betrer"... but var in EPL gs in complete shambles. Howard web and PGMOL are responsible
As a fan. Try celebrating a goal these days...you need to wait 5mins to see if it is a goal or not.
VAR has been a mess! 😂
VAR as is belongs in the bin. There are at most four things video assist should be used for imo. Goal line technology, fully automated offside decisions, finding hidden red card worthy offenses and clearing up cases of mistaken identity. In short VAR should only deal with things that either don't break the flow of the game or that truly violate the spirit of the game. Everything else should be in the hand of the on-field referee with no outside interference. Yes, there will be a few more wrong decisions, but real football isn't a factory product, it's entertainment. And human imperfections are a significant part of what entertains people. With music most studio produced songs are arguably better than listening to a live performance if we are talking about audio quality and yet listening to a band in person is a far better experience even if the singer messes up a note, the lead guitar misses a beat and the audio equipment isn't tuned to perfection. Same with art, something fully computer generated without human input doesn't speak to us on the same level as what a painter can do, because of the human imperfections and idiosyncrasies. With football all the wrong decisions we argue about are part of the entertainment. Of course you want as few as possible, but if they occur in the heat of the moment and just because of human limitations and not gross incompetence we can accept it if we enjoy it live. What kills the enjoyment is celebrating a goal only to watch the referee stand around for a minute and then run to some screen and decide wherher to award the goal because of a supposed foul somewhere. Stop treating football as something you order on Amazon and from which you can expect perfection and treat it as the human live performance it is.
Refs are already awful. You want to remove something holding refs accountable.
VAR was supposed to help better decisions but they are not. Most times they backed up wrong decisions of the referees or didn’t intervene because not “clear and obvious”
The proof we all needed for way too long: the guy is out of his mind.
Just keep goal line technology. In the past it was easier to accept a refs mistake. Now fans are always baying for blood
VAR for the lines only, those constant interruptions are against the very nature of the game.
Just use var when the goal is on the line or over the line..handball in the penalty should only be consistent enough for referee to judge whether it's ball to hand or hand to ball.. handballs outside the box need not have to use VAR..it's the referee decision without the var .
Replays have helped the nba for decades
Sweden is correct. Technology can’t fix everything and clearly it hasn’t. VAR even with replay even with the thousands of angles even with extra people looking at it have still messed up horribly. It is no different mistakes were had before VAR and they are being made with them also.
IT should be rejected at this moment in time, the powers at the top use it too loosely.
VAR worked well for us Scousers this year , just watch the Spurs game again and get back to him lads!!
Var will improve if the people using it new what they were doing .Better usage like rugby union .
then again should we trust the opinions of someone who can't spell knew
Clear and obvious error. That is the key, in my opinion. VAR should only be involved when they spot a clear and obvious error from the referee. A penalty that takes more than 30 seconds to decide is not clear and obvious. An offside that takes different color lines on the pitch and players' body to check is not clear and obvious. A red card foul that takes multiple viewing at 5 different angles at super slo mo is not clear and obvious. A handball that requires the camera to zoom 400% to find the mark between shoulder and arm is not clear and obvious. A clear and obvious error should only takes one replay viewing in less than 10 seconds to notice. If not clear and obvious, ruling on the pitch stands.
To any denier of VAR: Let me hear that strong argument when you get a goal against you on a final and it should’ve been disallowed 😉
Why is everybody having a go at Sid. He's just voicing his opinion. How many people on here have moaned about the decisions, week in, week out.
5:01 like the Barca ghost goal
Geez people football has existed for over 100 years without var, and lived with refereeing decisions... which contributed to the excitement and passion of watching a game. Every decision doesn't have to be analysed down to a science
Var has killed the fan experience. I rather run the risk of my team having a decision go against them due to referee making an error and I will be able to enjoy football again
VAR may get a % of more decisions right but it’s ruining the game as way to slow in making a decision and way to many stoppages
VAR is not perfect. It needs improvement. But, there is no way we r going back...
Sid Lowe "Really hate VAR" hahahaha well played ESPN!
What about goal line technology
fantastic statement about VAR. VAR WAS THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENED TO FOOTBALL
and the gambling houses rejoiced they thought that point shaving was a dying art they are so back baby
They know Malmo would never win the league again🤣🤣
Sid Lowe is such a top journalist. I don't agree with him on this particular issue, but he puts his thoughts and opinions across very, very well. Love listening to him.
Sid is just a romantic. He believes we should be fine if referees make a wrong decision and the whole world accepts it as sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn’t. It’s an extremely personal and short-sighted point of view. In this day and age, if officials don’t look at replays, you can 100% bet every news channel, media outlet, YT creator, etc will look at replays and will bring a tremendous amount of pressure to bear on referee performance. Can you imagine if Maradona’s Hand of God happened today and there was still no VAR? Do you think with media being so much more present and immediate today you could tell England the same “just accept it” line? Before the game was over, replays would be going, clips of the handball from stadium spectators would start going viral on Twitter, etc. Maybe even before the game is over, the referee’s head would be demanded. And Sid thinks that scenario is fine. That if a handball eliminates a country from the World Cup, that’s fine because it otherwise interrupts game flow. He’s English but I doubt he speaks for England in this case.
haven't heard a worst take on anything in a while, wow just wow
How about you simply have better refs AND VAR? Only the EPL has got as much issues with it. EPL is not a good example. Take notice of other leagues such as Bundesliga or La Liga. They have introduced VAR almost perfectly... those league simply have much higher quality refs than the EPL does.
Sid just be yapping
not a big fan of VAR but now swedish fans have to accept that referees makes mistakes !!
Don’t do away with var lots of mistakes caught
It's like people who complaing about VAR don't understand there are humans behind it. There's nothing wrong with the system....humnas will just always make mistakes.
Never forget Chelsea vs Barcelona, thats why we need VAR
Good job Sweden 🇸🇪 👏 👍
We need a VAR Lite, because I fundamentally don't like offsides because of 'a toe', or something of the same ilk.
WOOHOO go Sweden!!!! Sport is entertainment. Does VAR make the sport more or less entertaining? Less. SO, so much less. Instead of a wrong decision, we get to wait 5 min for a wrong decision. And why is Stevie defending VAR? His Liverpool lost the title (10+ points) to refs/VAR, not City or Arsenal (ie Doku high booting McAllister in the Chest, Luis Diaz "offside", Odegaard handball, Gakpo live ball). We tried VAR, it hasn't worked, so let's try automated offsides and maybe--like goal-line tech--it'll be ok and a good addition. Isn't VAR just the FA trying to cover themselves legally after getting sued by relegated clubs a couple years back? I mean seriously this is crazy.
Sid is on point.
Unbelievable....all these fans are then the ones that cry out corruption or conspiracy theories when a ref gets a decision wrong.
I like it a lot even though nobody watches swedish football anyways