I Bought A WOODEN P51 Airplane...Everything Broken
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I Bought A Wooden P51 Airplane...Everything Broken
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Hey Jimmy, I’m a boat builder on the Gold Coast in Oz, The little cracks in the back end of the leading edge cap are from differential flex between plywood skin and the leading each cap at the rabbit where the ply is glued and screwed. Not a big deal. We get the on yacht spars all the time, give it a little grind back with 36g resin disc, acetone wipe and reglass with 6oz E glass and West System epoxy, Peelply it, let it go off, rip the peelply off, sand it up and paint. Two hours work tops. Any questions Just ask, love your work by the way!
I am far more interested in content on this p51 than the "Elvis jet/bus". far more to learn regarding the p51. turning the Elvis jet into a bus has caused my interest to wander.
I feel the same. Jimmy get that bird in the air!
Same
Same, we came for the airplanes…. I’d personally have a real fab guy put the Elvis jet motor home together while I go find airplanes to start and film it! I feel like the MiG is a wash but that T-6 should be the brunt of the channel right now. Just my opinion
Pass on watching any more jet / bus conversion.....
The "Elvis Jet" that Elvis never laid eyes on...
Jimmy, the fuel could dissolve some of the adhesives and sealant if they are not rated for the correct class and type to be around fuel. If you can boroscope the wing that may be the best way to inspect it. You may need to pull the fuel tanks out to inspect the spar and other wing structures. -Billy
Where is the MiG and the other planes? Get us a update on all those
Jimmy, That P-51 is way cool and you need to do what ever you have to do to get it to fly again. This interests me way more than Elvis's jet becoming an RV!
agreed, the Elvis jet doesn't do anything for me.. hope he recovers his money.. but past the 1st tour video, i've seen all i needed to see.. i'd seen it before years ago too..
He should sell ALL
@@texastyrannyresponseteam794 yeah, agreed. I would much prefer to see some of those old airplanes getting in the air again.
Same.. I tuned out of his channel when all the Elvis stuff hit. Meh
Mini P51 cool. I hope you get it running, test fly it then ferry it home! Nice to meet you and Silas at Taco Tuesday recently-Dave and Craig, with 1947 v tail Bonanza.
Jimmy. Get that p51 back to Florida and show Cleetus. He needs that in his life. Imagine matching the 2/3 experimental to the RC plane he just got from Alan with the grandfather call sign. Such a cool and iconic build. Garrett would fall in love if he fit inside
The Bellanca Viking has wooden wings. Someone with knowledge of those could maybe offer some advice and guidance on wing inspection. The Viking 300 and the Super Viking were manufactured in Alexandria, MN.
So. after you did all the work for that family getting all the others running, I assume 100% at your expense, they back out of the deal. I also assume it then came back to them wanting more money now that you got them running for them? That's just really crappy of them to say the least. Personally, I would not have dealt with them on the P51 after being treated that way.
You also gotta think about the revenue from the videos getting them running. Lol
@@charlescarpenter1330 True, but given he said he was going to pay $100k for those planes, I seriously doubt all of them combined with a video series for each would have ever paid for that.
Same thought came to me but none of us were privy to the actual conversations.
After a hard landing on my MG, we had to check my wooden spar full length. Fred, my mechanic, used some type of hot tool to melt holes into my plywood skin and we visually checked spar full lentgh for cracks.
Happy new year Jimmy may God's love and blessings and support for all you do Amen ❤😂🎉
Hi Jimmy and happy new year to you and family...just becarefull we don't want anything bad to happen....lol your to smart anyway for something to go wrong....we love your show....and like we say you set a good example for all us guys. To care for family....you show your son and daughter everything. They are truly lucky to have a dad like you.. .may peace be with my good friend. We will always watch...god bless you😊
Keep it Jimmy, add radios/strobes and have the inspection and necessary repairs/upgrades done and fly it, take it on a us tour
You can stress the wings both negitive and positive to any "G" factor you want, Most aircraft have G limits. Pick one and buy a bunch of sand bags. If you can't brake it then fly it. Make you program alittle more interestin!!! Gramps
crazy. you are really cool for sharing and talking to your subscribers and being a content creator
Ranger engine was used in the PT-19 and Fairchild 24s. Both also had Radial engine versions. The PT-23 is a 19 re-engined with a Continental W670-4 Radial
The Luscombe was the best airplane of that lot. You should have taken that one.
Sell it Jimmy. Not a Florida plane and not worth risking your life
I used to work on wooden airframes, and that looks a solid build. I would have no problem flying that. Get an annual, as that will increase its value significantly if you did decide to sell it.
Great videos as always Jimmy! Cool plane! My Grandpa had a PT-19 and 2 J-3's to instruct in. I think the Fairchild F24 also used that engine as well. He had to sell them all after a attack before I was old enough for him to teach me to fly. Hopefully I will learn before I'm too old. Can't shake that dream.
The SZD-36A Cobra is one of the last gliders that have a WOOD wing. You could look for a Cobra owner, or contact the Bielsko company in Poland, and FIND people qualified to inspect and if necessary repair such a wooden plane. Walking away is a bit too simple. Wood and linen is classic. And safety could safe your life.
Spruce Eagle, I like that lol. How about Spruce Stang 😆? Stang to the Bang lol. I like whenever you do a video of a kit or a plane that somebody who has passed away owned or built cause it's something they have most likely spent lots of years and money and effort into and you get to put something from their legacy or what they left behind up on KZhead basically 4ever for everyone to see regardless of whether you buy it or not, that's awesome in my book. This thing is sweet just watch out for that wood I guess, bummer the wings can't come off to truck it.
Good morning from Minnesota! Great episode!
🌴 🤔 well I’m not the brightest penny in the bunch , but👈🏼 those wings looked pretty sturdy from were in sitt’n , ya you could do a flex test to see if there’s big concern , , but if your worried about the seams coming apart , due to moisture or probably expansion, you could just dremel out those seams and fill them with epoxy and mill fiber , a little primer and paint your good to go , and not that expensive of a fix , having another mechanic working on it with video or pictures of the repairs I think would be your best bet , as for flying it home , to Florida, a bit of test flying to make sure the little lady is trust worthy and let er rip ! “ WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG !” , hey do you own a parachute 😂
oh woah, id love to see you work on a baron, that would be awesome!
Damn that's a BEAUTY =D Would have preferred if it was aluminum and maybe a bit more power. I bet it's solid though. Aircraft quality like marine quality wood. Have to fit certain standards.
If the wood wasn't sealed properly and was old, you'd have some concerns. I think it'll be pretty solid. Definitely get a detailed and thorough annual, fly it to Florida and decide after you fly it if you want to sell it.
Thank you Jimmy for the video.
the cessna in back ground needs a will it start or the jet sitting over in the corner or the blue smurf thing or other airplanes to goof around with.
Happy new year hopefully you will see another one if you buy and fly that matchbox 😂😂😎
Should be some build pictures. A guy like the guy who built that, he did a good job, you can tell what the inside of the wings looks like by the rest of the plane. I’d cut our a few inspection panels. The crack is where the ply meets the leading edge. No big deal.
Buyer beware good luck with this plane great video thanks Jimmy
Back when we built our Glasair we knew of a couple guys who built all aluminum 3/4 scale P-51 mustangs.. this was back in the 90s.. i was never a fan of the smaller mustang myself as i didn't fit in it that well.. you little guys fit a lot better. i'd like to see you get it flying and back to florida.. grab you a handheld radio and go.. arrange a chase plane with similar performance so you have company and someone with you incase you have to set her down somewhere off field..
Great video Jimmy. It's just fun watching you.
I’d love seeing this plane fly. I hope you can find a way to keep it and make it work.
Love to see that fly....make it happen....hi from the uk
Jimmy, 🤔... The wings don't come off, However I'm sure the nose comes off along with the engine and the rudder... How long would it be if those came off? Would it be short enough if those were removed to stand it up vertical front side down on a low boy semi trailer? 😉... Oh, it's just a thought, even though it's a crazy one... Maybe just crazy enough to work... 🤪
I just bought a hummel ultracruiser today, and it's all broken too I know the feeling
You need to learn a little about the De Haviland DH88 Comet and DH98 Mosquito if you want to understand the advantages and strength of wooden built aircraft Jimmy.
Where’s the T6 Jimmy??
Not a fan of the walk the plank wood-stang. Gives me the Heebeegeebees. Some will point out the Vikings had wood wings, however there is a big difference between a legit manufacture, and a dude in the back yard. Sell the motor, then cut it up for firewood.
Your son is an excellent cameraman.
i agree...no hosepiping which is a relief!
I need to get ride of some planes…. Walks to the 150 “I’m gonna have to go talk to them about this “ walks to the Barron “ I’m gonna have to go talk to them about this”….. I don’t blame you one bit, I want one plane of each kind😅😊
Get the '51' checked out but if it was built correctly, just like a Bellanca it will outlast you! 🙂
Find a old A&P guy, with blanka experience. If the wood is separated I would be surprised. If the glue and grid layout was as good as you think, if it separated, you would hear a void when you tap around it. Love the show and your boy is doing a great job of filming you. OK maybe I should say video"ing" it. Lol
A moisture meter would help tremendously. If any moisture then just sell it. If it's good then get it going.
It's just so cool. Jimmy
9:08 I was gonna say the tie rod for the landing gear had damaged the frame but then I noticed the damage had been painted over so maybe it was put there for clearance.
Have you gotten in touch with Manna Aviation in Toronto, Australia? They have the plans for the aircraft.
As an experimental he had to keep a builders log with photos to show to the FAA inspector. It should show every step ofnrhe build including wings before they were closed in. You should get that log with the plane.
That looks like a leading edge impact on the starboard wing. Glue joints could be broken. Very sketchy, definitely needs a expert to take a look. I'd drill a few holes to see how deep the damage is. Doesn't look good, the lead edge could be fractured. Other then that Its a cool model Plane!
Claro tiee algo de recina, porque ahi jimmi lo que es inevitable es la sustentacion del avion se puede poner recina ahi de los 10 centimetros o menos para el vorde trasero 💪
Hughes plane was made of (Duramold)a birch base lamination process. It did fly, but only a few hundred feet on a test taxi run But that's it. It was poorly under powered.(FYI) keep up the good work. 👍
Jimmy how do you feel about a Titan 51 Mustang cool all metal Plane with a wide range of power plants to chose from! I like the LS motors the sound is amazing!
At 9:08 what are those metal tubes that join in a 6-way junction? Two of them are showing damage due to impact of some sort. These ar3e frame items doing some critical job, so that damage means a LOT. It could be very dangerous, and needs mechanical approval by an expert on that plane's building, or perhaps replacement, even.
if i'm honest--you're NOT flying that airplane. ever. And that's a SOLID decision!
First flight was only 6 years ago.... structure should be fine. A little cracking along the leading edge cap as the structure settles most likely.
Hope you keep it
Have you seen the Lear 24d in Golderdale Washington fr 20,000? Marketplace.
Do you know what sort of glue was used in the construction of the ply? It might have implications for any repairs you try to do. Personally I would sell it on to a wood worker.
Jimmy what you can do with the wings is hire a professional drummer that knows their Octaves and have them tap the wings for sound it'll find bad spots ,I've heard that drummers listen to the sound of cymbals and skin tones for the best sounds And they get hired to tap boats for wood rot Just a idea to try they can tell different forms of sound if the wings are solid ,Cool plane though
I couldn’t disagree with more than the previous commenter. Wood planes that have been stored indoors will remain as solid as the day it was built. All you need to do to check the planes wooden parts is to buy or borrow a digital moisture meter. If the wood is damaged or rotted, the moisture level will be high. I’ll bet that the meter tells you that the wood is solid and dry. The plane could use a paint job but otherwise it’s very cool Jimmy. I agree that you should sell it BUT, please get it going and take it for a spin first ok. Btw, I am a fan of wooden boats and have had several of them. Well maintained wooden boats last forever and that’s a hull that sits in the water for its entire life. Your wooden plane has maybe been rained on a few times but otherwise I’m 99% sure the wooden air frame is solid as a rock. Good luck either way my friend. 👍🇺🇸✌️
There has got to be someone you could fly down there for an opinion. You could easily use a hand held with a vox on it for a radio .
Makeing the glue is just adding water to Phenol formaldehyde resin.. same stuff culver props and gibson guitars uses
You're getting crazier and crazier. If you get a P-51, ya gotta get a B-17 to fly alongside!!
There is a miniature flying B17 too. Bally's Bomber. Really cool airplane, there are a bunch of videos of it around. Personally I have always wanted to build a miniature B-36 with 6 rotary engines to get the cowling shape correct. Have no idea when or if the mini B17 will ever be for sale, but how cool would that be to have both?
@@theodorgiosan2570It was at Oshkosh at least twice during the conventions.
Needs a 4 blade to look somewhat authentic....all good Jimmy
I thought you already had one of these??
And as the other viewer said Jimmy I know you're not going to listen to us you need to completely walk away from this it ain't worth your time it's just going to bring you more heartache and problem down the road I am so very sorry also that you lost those deals your son was really looking forward to that cub and I know you really like those other planes makes me sad that you wasted your time filming all that and all that location it was pretty much all for nothing that's like a gut wrench kick to the stomach I hope your future endeavors get better Jimmy best of luck to Jimmy's world Jimmy's World strong Jimmy's world forever
One of the most successful, versatile and fast aircraft of World War II was the British De Havilland Mosquito, built of plywood and powered by two Rolls Royce Merlin engines. Over 7,700 were built.
Yes, the USAAF should have built Lancasters amd Mosquitos, not ancient B-17s. /
Jimmy if you get checked out on the T-6 what we call the Harvard in Canada , You can fly anything,
Or a 150 !
Hi Jimmy; I think you should concentrate on the ElvisMoBile and sell this one. Or skin the wings with alum. sheet or ??
Chipmunks use the 'de Havilland Gipsy Major Series engines'. There have been conversions/modifications by NEW owner's who purchased these newly surplus to RAF requirements aircraft where different engines were introduced the this airframe.
That’s such a cool plane!!!
Jimmy, I say stick to fixing and flying what you have. The Elvis Jet was a waste of a lot of money and not at all interesting...at least to me. El Mirage, Arizona
I wouldn’t worry too much about much about the wood. You’re in dry Texas and it looks like it’s hanger kept. A good going over with a good A&P mechanic and she would be fine.
The problem is if he does fly it back to Florida, then it's in a humid environment and how long will the wooden structure last before it becomes a sponge?
I'm amazed it has very little (if any) dihedral to the main wings... The bad thing about wood, is it is much more susceptible to heat, and cold and humidity, than metal, and over time that stuff, mainly the glues, would dry out and not be flexable leading to delamination. That could be a very serious and a fatal outcome. awe hell, I think you should... a) keep it and b) fly it at least once! Then maybe park it.
If only first flown in 2017 you can be fairly certain the wood very good it would have all be properly treated and will probably be still good in 50yrs Get an inspector to look it over / service fit a simple radio and fly it home you start messing about fitting panels and lights it will just be another excuse not to fly it, You don't fancy it then get someone else to fly it back for you. Lot a pilots out there would love to own that aeroplane
It’s really sad how many old airplanes are rotting like that Beechcraft and Cherokee. They’re just so expensive to maintain and fly, and triply so if you don’t stay on top of them. Once it sits for a year or two it becomes even more expensive to get it back in annual. Once I get my ppl I think I’ll stick to renting or a flying club until I’m independently wealthy lol.
Go for mechanic class too
In reality, if you purchase a Cessna 150 or Cherokee 140, you can get your PPL in those and then after building a bit of time, sell it and come out with money in your pocket above the original purchase price. Prices are increasing every day.
I'm just curious, how many of the destroyed aircraft does Jimmy actually get restored and running? I've seen the simpler ones fixed up, but I am not that much of a viewer to tell if he has finished any of his big projects, like the 310 and stuff
Hi I'm a builder in New Hampshire, we use ultra sound to check structureal soundness. Windsock Village Ossipee NH
I'd be very wary about homebuilt aircraft being made of wood,with too many questions, especially in the humid climate of Florida. I'd look hard at the Cessna 150 or the Navion. Keep up the good content
The flying World was built on wooden aeroplanes many even used in ww2 like the twin engined mosquito
An EAA inspector is the best person to get on board they will know what they looking at.. the question is do you want this that bad..... pastor Jimmy the question is yours happy new year too you and your gang crack on
I didn't see the link or pinned comments for the sale of the other airplanes. thanks
Jimmy is this plane still in Texas? I thought when I watched your video you were somewhere down in the Medina Texas area... I used to live in Vanderpool I'm very familiar with wood airplanes if it's still here in Texas I could probably help you out.
Jimmy, pause the video at 9:08 and tell me what you see. How did those dents get there?
Awesome little airplane! You should see if Garrett aka Cleetus might be interested in this plane. I think he said a P-51 is his dream plane, so this might be right up his alley.
You can ask the crew in New Zealand 🇳🇿 that rebuild moskitos they are built exactly the same as this one, I’m sure that you can find videos on how to fix it, contact the museum in mont hope ( Hamilton airport) Canada 🇨🇦 they will be glad to help
This would be a good plane for Trever Jacob on the other hand.
Get it running and flying if its not a lot of trouble and sell it. or mabey runing and sell it or better yet buy the cessena 150 instead although its dusty it has not run is long time. Easier. wing did flex on the p51 when you picked up on it. left one did. To me it is scary.
Note; Aluminum aircraft can have extensive structurally compromising corrosion. Same for steel framed fuselages. .
could you get it xrayed or scanned maybe check condition
Sell the Elvis jet!! Stay true to your original content please!!! I can’t get enough of it
Links to the seller please. Still interested in the Preceptor N3 Pup UL.
The same construction is used on Bellanca super viking don't think its an issue
I am not sure, I would get a walabot to check the lumber. Just a thought.
Buenaso alta máquina ponemos un cable de la batería a la camisa de los pistones desde el polo positivo a ver si anda haceme caso,probalo después que ande o probalo en otro que ya ande, es fácil eso no puede ser de madera? Si es fuerte el chasis donde están los tornillos se le puede poner algo resistente un epoxi o algo similar para la proteccion
Sino chapa taladrada por eso está bueno saber si tiene buen chasis o si tornillas en el mismo lugar donde ya está tornillado!
Pls pls pls keep it. This is so cool!
You should consider getting the citation. Also, curious why you had to blur the aircraft tail numbers at the end of the video?
If you fly it home take a parachute with you with a homing beacon. We'd hate to lose you Jimmy. I don't trust it I know it flew but how long did it fly and Texas to Florida is a long time for a piece of furniture to be in the air.
it is a large scale model airplane pretty much,,which means its really strong.