Covering everything there is to know about Ultimate's funny grab counter. Subscribe: www.youtube.com/@FireThePyroY... Twitter: / firethepyro Music used in this video: pastebin.com/TJ5qLS4z
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I'm looking to get back into making stuff. Likes, sharing, and subscribing would be heavily appreciated to fight the algorithm. Next video is already in the works, expect something at least once a month.
@FireThePyroYTАй бұрын
Looking forward to it. Keep up the good work. 👍
@isaiahthechristiangamer8716Ай бұрын
Genius video and genius editing, hope you blow up
@Kriskirby1992Ай бұрын
This is fantastic content
@liampullman1198Ай бұрын
Hi just found ya, welcome back looking forward to new smash videos
@KuZaFGCАй бұрын
This is some dang good video cadence
@sunnycideup4725Ай бұрын
Cons - Sucks in damn near every catagory Pros - Funny
@jackoven8675Ай бұрын
Good enough for me
@Snooty483517 күн бұрын
That’s all you had to say
@CookieTwoStep15 күн бұрын
I'm sold
@ribsofmanhattan40415 күн бұрын
@@Snooty4835aroace pfp !!
@Proudaazz15 күн бұрын
@@Proudaazz this guy gets it!
@Snooty483515 күн бұрын
Counter throw would go so hard if it made mii brawler catch the projectile and throw it back
@just-meesАй бұрын
Watching Mii Brawler literally grab a laser out of the air and chuck it back like a Baseball pitcher would be funny to see.
@ihap5180Ай бұрын
hitting the kung fu panda 2 would be amazing
@Orio435Ай бұрын
@@ihap5180take the laser and make it into a hadoken with insane speed
@ducklett01godАй бұрын
😂 I mean we have villager and Isabelle for example right guys? 😊
@etherealbladerx8153Ай бұрын
Bruh someone make a Po Mii now@@Orio435
@mariustan9275Ай бұрын
The Worst Counter competitively. The best counter to land
@g0ddish434Ай бұрын
Not really the best to land when Shulk's counter exists
@AacroXАй бұрын
@@AacroX Counterpoint: Counter Throw is funny
@ebluegamer5397Ай бұрын
Reverse Gut Check 0 to death:
@biggestchungus6680Ай бұрын
@@AacroXis that the guy in the shock server??!??!!
@DDDTJАй бұрын
The only counter effective against move that normally make others completely invincible lol
@michaelbecket4901Ай бұрын
Most counters have a dramatic pause before the counterhit, but counter throw is so fast which makes it pretty funny how you just go 'no u'. It makes it hard to DI so it can net you some early deaths
@alfonshedstrom9859Ай бұрын
Not forgetting the highest launch multiplier.
@Scout_from_deep_rock_galacticАй бұрын
@@Scout_from_deep_rock_galacticgrounded version only
@nathanlevesque7812Ай бұрын
@@nathanlevesque7812 yes. Killing on the ground at 5% is still insane
@Scout_from_deep_rock_galacticАй бұрын
7:20 Plant: "Say sike right now."
@jjp_arxys2001Ай бұрын
Mii brawler: YEET!!
@CuteRedPanda64Ай бұрын
He learned from Marth
@thunderknight4149Ай бұрын
I thought Plant would say "Nope"
@thatguy763Ай бұрын
'u srs rite now'
@flaco3462Ай бұрын
Mii Brawler: “Nah.” *YEET*
@t-greenrock404Ай бұрын
The best purpose is to combine with ESK for a stupid knowledge check
@Gimmick_Ай бұрын
if only you could have esk, this, and head on assault on the same moveset
@arjayecho9890Ай бұрын
This one time I killed my friend at zero with it because he accidentally misinput a fully charged Straight Lunge.
@dprototype6431Ай бұрын
Why is it a knowledge check?
@coldmill8615Ай бұрын
@@coldmill8615 there are many things to know about ESK (has armor, reversible, kinda just better falcon punch, etc), and failing to know any of them can cost you a stock.
@arjayecho9890Ай бұрын
@@coldmill8615 It's safe on shield, if they try to punish with a smash attack or something you can counter it
@mossdude9594Ай бұрын
The sound effect and the "got em" feeling is all i need
@Neloch4Ай бұрын
JoJo Punch noise xd
@BackOff_xdАй бұрын
To add insult to injury: the counterattack hitbox of the grounded version of Counter Throw only hits a bit on front of him, and the hitbox is mostly horizontal. This leaves the grounded version of the counterattack highly susceptible to whiffing against characters below or above him if you somehow manage to land the counter against said characters, and whiffs easily against big disjoints. This is less of a problem with the aerial version since the counterattack is significantly bigger, but it is just an extra annoying thing the move has to deal with.
@the_bookworm8281Ай бұрын
and the worst thing about the aerial version of the counter throw is weaker than the grounded one
@davidegentilezza2311Ай бұрын
This move is frustrating to think about because the other, cripplingly bugged Mii move got patched eventually. Swordfighter's Side B 2, Gale Stab. It functions like Ike's Quickdraw. But when hitting someone with it, you were unable to grab a ledge after making contact, kind of like Jigglypuff's Rollout in every game before Ultimate. And just to make sure the move was worse than Ike's they never included the ability to continue your recovery after making midair contact. So if you knew about the bug and Swordfighter was attempting to use it to reach the ledge, you could run to the ledge and hold shield. The attack would hit your shield and Swordfighter would fall past the ledge to his death every time, no spacing could get past that simple trick. Even if your shield health was low, simply tanking the hit would also work. Somehow, someone on the dev team noticed the problem two years after the game released and fixed it, turning the move suddenly viable. It's too bad they didn't do the same for Counter Grab.
@ZappBranniglennАй бұрын
*Throw
@samuelbrown128313 күн бұрын
You can't stop me from taking this to bracket. I will take my single set and leave proudly
@NespeonАй бұрын
Years ago I tried to convince an entire KZhead comment section that Counter Throw is the worst, and they just kept saying "But it's really strong!" and cited Mac, Lucario, and Greninja. To that I say, AT LEAST THEIR COUNTERS ACTUALLY ACTIVATE!!
@thecrimsoncreep6665Ай бұрын
Counter Throw is more about prediction than reaction. Once you understand that and break the habits taught by the more generous counters, it becomes a lot more usable.
@Mordecai02Ай бұрын
@@Mordecai02 You can say that about almost any bad move. "Just read them."
@thecrimsoncreep6665Ай бұрын
@@Mordecai02Mfw I read a Pikachu's Down Tilt but this rat just step on my toe and combo me for it :
@vivelespatat267015 күн бұрын
@@Mordecai02 Any move can be usable if used right, doesn't make it good.
@homerman7615 күн бұрын
@@homerman76 Well yeah, doesn't _necessarily_ make it good. When you're talking about like the second or third strongest counter in the game (strongest outright discounting DLC), though... Seriously, next y'all gonna be telling me Ivy Valentine is bad in Soul Calibur.
@Mordecai0215 күн бұрын
You guys are just doing it wrong
@D-the-goatАй бұрын
Real
@King_Wump5 күн бұрын
Yes
@harrisonlien8123Күн бұрын
Finally some good ass smash content
@FateZiggyАй бұрын
Oxymoron lol
@GrayAeolusАй бұрын
Damn, this video’s editing is really good. And yeah, counter throw sucks
@legendarysoil1064Ай бұрын
This is ESAMS editor you’re talking about
@chanzearkman6595Ай бұрын
Ah yes, the only truly balanced counter.
@merio7271Ай бұрын
100%
@frappemreshАй бұрын
Lore accurate counter
@alexmendez746015 күн бұрын
The only reason this is my favorite mii brawler move is because my friends are idiots
@kiseki835127 күн бұрын
I think the biggest insult to injury is that Counter Throw actually replaced one of Mii Brawler's down specials from Smash 4, Foot Flurry, which I'm pretty sure was Mii Brawler's best edgeguard move
@justsomewheel9379Ай бұрын
It was, & was actually just a really cool move. But out of the three of them, I don't know what else could have viably been replaced. Feint Kick is, well _Feint Kick,_ & Head On Assault is just fucking hilarious. I do really miss Foot Flurry though, Mii Brawler doesn't have enough kicks to balance out the punching anymore. Honestly, I feel like it should've actually been a side special, & replaced that rush attack that sucks ass.
@CaptainCFalconКүн бұрын
6:31 as someone who doesn’t play Smash, that suicide move caught me so off guard it legitimately got me laughing 😂
@FlittaLink24 күн бұрын
Counter Throw is the only true counter to Banjo's Wonderwing.
@PizzaTuber12345Ай бұрын
True, but only without the rest of the DLC.
@KHloreExpertАй бұрын
Wait Sora's Counter doesnr work as well?
@ssctiyo473527 күн бұрын
Just grab, dummy
@rouge-ish32424 күн бұрын
@@ssctiyo4735it does, but that's because sora has the ULTIMATE DLC counter, which straight up ignores EVERY interaction by just not letting anyone continue with their attack. Every other counter grants invincibility to Wonderwing, but fails to actually punish it. Counter Throw is the only one designed actually make Banjo regret his decision to randomly throw out side specials.
@CaptainCFalconКүн бұрын
Funny part of that counter-triggerbox is that it aligns perfectly to fighting games and their special counters. SNK's counters usually have a upper and lower variant and get stuffed by cross-ups. They also can't activate against projectiles. What, you think you can lower-counter a wave of seismic energy? Puh-leese, Mother Earth is *not* amused. I think that alongside Smash Ultimate's design choices regarding new takes on counters, they may have wanted to see what would happen if they introduced a more traditional counter to the game. Anyways, good video. I hope that you'll continue to make things like this!
@just-linx8271Ай бұрын
even in casual it just doesn’t work due to the fact that smash is very much movement based unfortunately
@byzantiaimperia8593Ай бұрын
I just have one thing to say: PREDICTABO.
@pizzaeater8905Ай бұрын
Conspiracy theory: the ENTIRE purpose of this move was because they planned on adding Terry as DLC which means they were gonna add Geese as a Spirit fight which means the game needed a throw counter somewhere
@snuffysamАй бұрын
More good-ass Mii Brawler content? Hell yeah 🎉
@BigLordАй бұрын
Hi BigLord!!
@Ban-zx9seАй бұрын
Yes, the Mii Brawler is my favorite character
@olafgarcia6238Ай бұрын
I use to complain about Shulks counter because when mine activates it doesn’t connect. Now I’m grateful it at least activates
@HonkzlyАй бұрын
Oh boy! A new channel the algorithm has shown me with a format I enjoy with a fun editing style! Let’s check what else he’s uploa- Aww it’s new
@cheeseboy2251Ай бұрын
Using Bomberman 64: The Second Attack music? That's a win in my book! Aside from your great taste in a music, this was a nicely edited video! I think you've got the potential to make it big as long as you're consistent! So keep up the great work! =)
@YoshillerАй бұрын
5:44 In the game's code/parameters, Min Min's arms are considered unreflectable projectiles, which would explain why that happens. It may also apply to Olimar's aerials but I'm not sure
@SmaxSSB22 күн бұрын
source spaghetti type shit wtf
@FireThePyroYT21 күн бұрын
2:06 AYO WHAT A CALL BACK I DID NOT EXPECT MY CHILDHOOD GAME TO COME BACK HERE IN THE FORM OF MUSIC Nice (its timeman's (world) theme from Megaman Powered Up, kinda an underrated game cuz it also had a lvl creator even before mario-maker i believe)
@wisteqs6644Ай бұрын
I love how he LITERALLY calls out the move *MADE FOR DODGES AT THE LEDGE* 6:38
@gavenhassan405915 күн бұрын
This was genuinely a great video. You’re very talented at editing. Well Done
@ChicagoSSBUАй бұрын
I've been a brawler main for the longest and never had any issues with this move. It's a very tight window but I've had more dubs than losses with it. I mostly use it on stage to punish overly aggressive people or at random intervals because of how quick it is. Genuinely my favorite move because I'm not overly reliant on it and people always get caught using basic jabs or tilts trying to catch the speedy little bastards.
@IyoMiyoАй бұрын
honestly if feint jump didn't exist, i could see people arguing between using counter or head on assult, but feint jump is a good recovery tool for a character who doesn't really have many good recovery mixups (especially if you use thrust uppercut)
@ayoraster2970Ай бұрын
@@ayoraster2970 when people try to spike me off stage i use this to save myself a meteor, or axe kick them. as long as they can't get behind me recovery isn't an issue unless the kick back towards the stage sends me a bit too close or someone uses a projectile. even then, the side kick hits most of them and you can just keep going. it's easy to switch into a counter or axe, but after the first time probably won't work again. ig just don't let yourself get thrown off stage cause yeah.. their recoveries are very bad. I still love the axe kick though, and combined with up tilt you can clash or hit any pokes trying to hit you on the ledge or even pull people down with you while recovering if you tilt back at just the right angle, it's great.
@IyoMiyoАй бұрын
Great video! Can't wait to see more from you, I'm so down for it
@objection4614Ай бұрын
This video is amazing! Super professionally-made and has a great sense of humor. Looking forward to more! :D
@ResistancePastaАй бұрын
Really good video! Great editing and a script that is both fun and informative. Looking forward to future content from you!
@someaccount2299Ай бұрын
this video is way more fucking awesome than anyone has described thus far i promise you that
@salvatore_slateАй бұрын
Love the editing and the useful information about Mii brawler counter.
@PurpleMaster18Ай бұрын
This is a great video about a move that I’ve never touched.
@isaiahthechristiangamer8716Ай бұрын
This is a really good video Pyro! Can’t wait to see more from you
@AussieAwesomeАй бұрын
i actually like this video a lot. Love the mii characters, was nice to see someone talking about them :D
@Matuzo_CannataАй бұрын
This was an insanely good video man really fun and also informative!
@DJDonSSBАй бұрын
This video was great! I look forward to your next one!
@fishyweeb4820Ай бұрын
LOVE the editing and info on this vid, keep at it!
@dondewaayАй бұрын
Saw your Shotput vid in my recommended and had to check this one out too. Love the editing style and how well everything flows together. I haven't played Ultimate in a long while but I'm looking forward to whatever you put out next!
@Trebolt18 күн бұрын
this video is so good dude, awesome editing and I love nice little analyses about single moves that are fun to talk about
@aannАй бұрын
This was such a lovely video. Rarely do I get taught new things I didn’t know about the game, but it just kept on giving! I even learned that my main Greninja has invincibility in specific parts of his body long after the counter starts!
@asuuki2048Ай бұрын
This is great, really hope to see more content from you
@shari2383Ай бұрын
Great video man! Keep it up! You explained everything super well and had a great editing flow throughout the videos so i hope you do more vids
@edwardkustner3029Ай бұрын
Throw Counter being the worst counter in the game with the caveat of being hilarious elevates it to being objectively the best counter in the game, because you know you're upsetting whoever gets caught by it. And that's truly all that matters.
@mr_pants27822 күн бұрын
This video is fantastic! Based on its quality I expected this to be a multi year channel I had missed, but it’s your first in this style. Real excited to see what you do next!
@joshhurst9770Ай бұрын
This is a REALLY well made video. Also really entertaining, keep it up! 👍
@brodydrawsstuffАй бұрын
Just saw this and your strongest projectile vid after it being randomly recced to me. Very nice. Educational and entertaining. Seem to be your first videos of this style, and I'm looking forward to more from you.
@BoneBeastKimimaro16 күн бұрын
I wished I watched this sooner this was FANTASTIC, hope to see you make more like it
@yarkster9_25 күн бұрын
This video was incredible bro. Also you’re really entertaining and the pacing was also great. Keep it up man 😄
@mysticfilms4780Ай бұрын
I'm two videos into your channel and I've already subscribed. These two most recent ones just hit right.
@syweb214 күн бұрын
fire video man 🔥🔥🔥 keep ts up genuinely some of the best content out there
@moai9552Ай бұрын
“Smash worst counter but also the funniest counter” should be the title
@RoOrange7503Ай бұрын
One of my favorite moves just because it looks sick, and that one smooth motion is very satisfying; when it actually works
@StefinaterАй бұрын
Woah! Haven’t seen this channel before, and the editing and presentation style is super fun! Definitely looking forward to seeing more!
@kirbman255Ай бұрын
Great vid!! Very entertaining and informative plus great editing.
@dyll_pyckleАй бұрын
You haven’t uploaded in 3 years and come out with. Banger thanks
@Aesc_the_voyager21 күн бұрын
I love the effort you put in this vid. Congrats, you gained a subscriber
@LoreGoshiАй бұрын
you should keep making these, you could be like an asumsaus for the SSBU community; love this video
@Shadz64Ай бұрын
Very well made video! I hope to see more move analyses in the future!
@PlanetvortonАй бұрын
Really good video :) I'll check out your other stuff. Great humour and to the point
@StepBaumАй бұрын
I made an entire video IN SMASH (Simply called Yeet) Dedicated to Counter Throw Kills. Its such a fun move to land, even with all of its downaides. Best part? As someone pointed out, The Exploding Side Kick and its ridiculous lack of end frames makes it the perfect counter to punishes. And one time, I did pull a cloud from underneath the platform when the up-smashed. Absolutely hilarious. 11/10 counter.
@andrewwilliams8951Ай бұрын
This is one of the best smash video essays I’ve ever seen, great work. Deserves more subs Fs
@anothersoul1881Ай бұрын
This was a really good video! Loved the editing and don't think I've subbed to a channel this fast lmao, hope to see more
@jakeswierdfriend7204Ай бұрын
Great video, your knowledge on the game is really good, and it’s difficult to find new things to talk about for this 5 year old game, so really good stuff
@basicallybilly9137Ай бұрын
Ooooo I love in depth breakdowns of small things in fighting games!
@kelbym3710Ай бұрын
This is a great video, good job man
@bobdude273Ай бұрын
Your editing style is super great, I dig it, made me want to play SSBU again
@user-mp3pf2ir2p14 күн бұрын
The only acceptable counter, remove lucario
@theshadeow510326 күн бұрын
This video is great dude! Keep up the good work!
@AlemuАй бұрын
Never seen your content before, but this is great! Keep it up.
@WarioLandIVАй бұрын
I can’t really think of anyone who makes this style of content specifically for Ult. I would love to see more like this, the editing is great!
@Jay-ho7sfАй бұрын
I love using counter throw dude. The sound it makes when it connects is music to my ears. The counter overall just sucks but when it activates its basically like marth grab and is so hilarious picking up people from mars. It really needs to be buffed somehow though like maybe it being the size of soras, getting to chose which direction to throw, or idk working against any projectile but its still fun. Its crazy how this is basically the only melee counter that doesn't work on min min or olimar but works against mii gunner f smash
@ghastlydreamerАй бұрын
Unironically one of my most desired Mii Brawler buffs, just because I think this move is sick. Even if they don't want to make it more consistent, they could instead make it absurdly strong.
@HEX33C1FFАй бұрын
great video, just discovered your channel and i love your editing and commentary
@wasaswasas9258Ай бұрын
damn this is super high quality, keep it up
@BigTangoManАй бұрын
Wow I loved this video and it's your first one in 3 years. I'm subscribing. Great stuff.
@MetaKirb7Ай бұрын
please keep vids like this up. this is awesome
@j0hnturboАй бұрын
This is some high quality stuff. Keep at it.
@FluffyDragon-cm8bzАй бұрын
ngl, I didn't even know about the ridculously small detection window for this move! A high quality vid, def need more subs dude.
@nsanity4624Ай бұрын
Bro comes back to KZhead after 3 years and drops the most banger smash video out of nowhere
@dumpylumpАй бұрын
Wow this is really high quality content, love the vid
@Hackstr_Ай бұрын
pros: lore accurate melee marth grab cons: everything
@realshaperio13 күн бұрын
This video is high quality. Good work
@niffthesniff8258Ай бұрын
Great video, hope you do more!
@tomadams7553Ай бұрын
I was not expecting this level of quality from a 7-minute video But damn did I love it
@VerdantSeamanJL14 күн бұрын
I love that you added extra layers of sound effects, it's always nice when important sounds like that are emphasised.
@SickmmanerАй бұрын
You know who else can counter Wonderwing and Stone? Mii Swordfighter. And it's a normal counter so his whole body is protected during his long counter window.
@SoulHero7Ай бұрын
Very good vid, would love to see more diving into Ultimate minutia
@80constantАй бұрын
10/10 video. hope to see more like this
@HeavyRayneАй бұрын
4:19 BRO GRABBED THE CHAIN, PULLED EM UP AND LAUNCHED HIM TO THE STRATOSPHERE
@PhantomEnderium2 күн бұрын
Yo, loved your editing on ESAM’s videos. Glad to see you’re making your own content too, great video
@peterlynch9929Ай бұрын
Man I love Videos like this
@byrontheusurper6505Ай бұрын
I've seen enough Smash clips to know that it's not about winning, it's about sending a message. And 6:46 will definitely send a message.
@HugelagАй бұрын
Now talk about ESK for Brawler, arguably the best physical charge move in the game
@johnnyc.2307Ай бұрын
I found you through the shot put video, and I just wanted to say that you production quality is really good!
@marroon822015 күн бұрын
Just got recommended this channel out of the blue; how tf don’t you have more subs??? This is a great blend of both entertaining and informative (at least for an unskilled player like me).
I'm looking to get back into making stuff. Likes, sharing, and subscribing would be heavily appreciated to fight the algorithm. Next video is already in the works, expect something at least once a month.
Looking forward to it. Keep up the good work. 👍
Genius video and genius editing, hope you blow up
This is fantastic content
Hi just found ya, welcome back looking forward to new smash videos
This is some dang good video cadence
Cons - Sucks in damn near every catagory Pros - Funny
Good enough for me
That’s all you had to say
I'm sold
@@Snooty4835aroace pfp !!
@@Proudaazz this guy gets it!
Counter throw would go so hard if it made mii brawler catch the projectile and throw it back
Watching Mii Brawler literally grab a laser out of the air and chuck it back like a Baseball pitcher would be funny to see.
hitting the kung fu panda 2 would be amazing
@@ihap5180take the laser and make it into a hadoken with insane speed
😂 I mean we have villager and Isabelle for example right guys? 😊
Bruh someone make a Po Mii now@@Orio435
The Worst Counter competitively. The best counter to land
Not really the best to land when Shulk's counter exists
@@AacroX Counterpoint: Counter Throw is funny
Reverse Gut Check 0 to death:
@@AacroXis that the guy in the shock server??!??!!
The only counter effective against move that normally make others completely invincible lol
Most counters have a dramatic pause before the counterhit, but counter throw is so fast which makes it pretty funny how you just go 'no u'. It makes it hard to DI so it can net you some early deaths
Not forgetting the highest launch multiplier.
@@Scout_from_deep_rock_galacticgrounded version only
@@nathanlevesque7812 yes. Killing on the ground at 5% is still insane
7:20 Plant: "Say sike right now."
Mii brawler: YEET!!
He learned from Marth
I thought Plant would say "Nope"
'u srs rite now'
Mii Brawler: “Nah.” *YEET*
The best purpose is to combine with ESK for a stupid knowledge check
if only you could have esk, this, and head on assault on the same moveset
This one time I killed my friend at zero with it because he accidentally misinput a fully charged Straight Lunge.
Why is it a knowledge check?
@@coldmill8615 there are many things to know about ESK (has armor, reversible, kinda just better falcon punch, etc), and failing to know any of them can cost you a stock.
@@coldmill8615 It's safe on shield, if they try to punish with a smash attack or something you can counter it
The sound effect and the "got em" feeling is all i need
JoJo Punch noise xd
To add insult to injury: the counterattack hitbox of the grounded version of Counter Throw only hits a bit on front of him, and the hitbox is mostly horizontal. This leaves the grounded version of the counterattack highly susceptible to whiffing against characters below or above him if you somehow manage to land the counter against said characters, and whiffs easily against big disjoints. This is less of a problem with the aerial version since the counterattack is significantly bigger, but it is just an extra annoying thing the move has to deal with.
and the worst thing about the aerial version of the counter throw is weaker than the grounded one
This move is frustrating to think about because the other, cripplingly bugged Mii move got patched eventually. Swordfighter's Side B 2, Gale Stab. It functions like Ike's Quickdraw. But when hitting someone with it, you were unable to grab a ledge after making contact, kind of like Jigglypuff's Rollout in every game before Ultimate. And just to make sure the move was worse than Ike's they never included the ability to continue your recovery after making midair contact. So if you knew about the bug and Swordfighter was attempting to use it to reach the ledge, you could run to the ledge and hold shield. The attack would hit your shield and Swordfighter would fall past the ledge to his death every time, no spacing could get past that simple trick. Even if your shield health was low, simply tanking the hit would also work. Somehow, someone on the dev team noticed the problem two years after the game released and fixed it, turning the move suddenly viable. It's too bad they didn't do the same for Counter Grab.
*Throw
You can't stop me from taking this to bracket. I will take my single set and leave proudly
Years ago I tried to convince an entire KZhead comment section that Counter Throw is the worst, and they just kept saying "But it's really strong!" and cited Mac, Lucario, and Greninja. To that I say, AT LEAST THEIR COUNTERS ACTUALLY ACTIVATE!!
Counter Throw is more about prediction than reaction. Once you understand that and break the habits taught by the more generous counters, it becomes a lot more usable.
@@Mordecai02 You can say that about almost any bad move. "Just read them."
@@Mordecai02Mfw I read a Pikachu's Down Tilt but this rat just step on my toe and combo me for it :
@@Mordecai02 Any move can be usable if used right, doesn't make it good.
@@homerman76 Well yeah, doesn't _necessarily_ make it good. When you're talking about like the second or third strongest counter in the game (strongest outright discounting DLC), though... Seriously, next y'all gonna be telling me Ivy Valentine is bad in Soul Calibur.
You guys are just doing it wrong
Real
Yes
Finally some good ass smash content
Oxymoron lol
Damn, this video’s editing is really good. And yeah, counter throw sucks
This is ESAMS editor you’re talking about
Ah yes, the only truly balanced counter.
100%
Lore accurate counter
The only reason this is my favorite mii brawler move is because my friends are idiots
I think the biggest insult to injury is that Counter Throw actually replaced one of Mii Brawler's down specials from Smash 4, Foot Flurry, which I'm pretty sure was Mii Brawler's best edgeguard move
It was, & was actually just a really cool move. But out of the three of them, I don't know what else could have viably been replaced. Feint Kick is, well _Feint Kick,_ & Head On Assault is just fucking hilarious. I do really miss Foot Flurry though, Mii Brawler doesn't have enough kicks to balance out the punching anymore. Honestly, I feel like it should've actually been a side special, & replaced that rush attack that sucks ass.
6:31 as someone who doesn’t play Smash, that suicide move caught me so off guard it legitimately got me laughing 😂
Counter Throw is the only true counter to Banjo's Wonderwing.
True, but only without the rest of the DLC.
Wait Sora's Counter doesnr work as well?
Just grab, dummy
@@ssctiyo4735it does, but that's because sora has the ULTIMATE DLC counter, which straight up ignores EVERY interaction by just not letting anyone continue with their attack. Every other counter grants invincibility to Wonderwing, but fails to actually punish it. Counter Throw is the only one designed actually make Banjo regret his decision to randomly throw out side specials.
Funny part of that counter-triggerbox is that it aligns perfectly to fighting games and their special counters. SNK's counters usually have a upper and lower variant and get stuffed by cross-ups. They also can't activate against projectiles. What, you think you can lower-counter a wave of seismic energy? Puh-leese, Mother Earth is *not* amused. I think that alongside Smash Ultimate's design choices regarding new takes on counters, they may have wanted to see what would happen if they introduced a more traditional counter to the game. Anyways, good video. I hope that you'll continue to make things like this!
even in casual it just doesn’t work due to the fact that smash is very much movement based unfortunately
I just have one thing to say: PREDICTABO.
Conspiracy theory: the ENTIRE purpose of this move was because they planned on adding Terry as DLC which means they were gonna add Geese as a Spirit fight which means the game needed a throw counter somewhere
More good-ass Mii Brawler content? Hell yeah 🎉
Hi BigLord!!
Yes, the Mii Brawler is my favorite character
I use to complain about Shulks counter because when mine activates it doesn’t connect. Now I’m grateful it at least activates
Oh boy! A new channel the algorithm has shown me with a format I enjoy with a fun editing style! Let’s check what else he’s uploa- Aww it’s new
Using Bomberman 64: The Second Attack music? That's a win in my book! Aside from your great taste in a music, this was a nicely edited video! I think you've got the potential to make it big as long as you're consistent! So keep up the great work! =)
5:44 In the game's code/parameters, Min Min's arms are considered unreflectable projectiles, which would explain why that happens. It may also apply to Olimar's aerials but I'm not sure
source spaghetti type shit wtf
2:06 AYO WHAT A CALL BACK I DID NOT EXPECT MY CHILDHOOD GAME TO COME BACK HERE IN THE FORM OF MUSIC Nice (its timeman's (world) theme from Megaman Powered Up, kinda an underrated game cuz it also had a lvl creator even before mario-maker i believe)
I love how he LITERALLY calls out the move *MADE FOR DODGES AT THE LEDGE* 6:38
This was genuinely a great video. You’re very talented at editing. Well Done
I've been a brawler main for the longest and never had any issues with this move. It's a very tight window but I've had more dubs than losses with it. I mostly use it on stage to punish overly aggressive people or at random intervals because of how quick it is. Genuinely my favorite move because I'm not overly reliant on it and people always get caught using basic jabs or tilts trying to catch the speedy little bastards.
honestly if feint jump didn't exist, i could see people arguing between using counter or head on assult, but feint jump is a good recovery tool for a character who doesn't really have many good recovery mixups (especially if you use thrust uppercut)
@@ayoraster2970 when people try to spike me off stage i use this to save myself a meteor, or axe kick them. as long as they can't get behind me recovery isn't an issue unless the kick back towards the stage sends me a bit too close or someone uses a projectile. even then, the side kick hits most of them and you can just keep going. it's easy to switch into a counter or axe, but after the first time probably won't work again. ig just don't let yourself get thrown off stage cause yeah.. their recoveries are very bad. I still love the axe kick though, and combined with up tilt you can clash or hit any pokes trying to hit you on the ledge or even pull people down with you while recovering if you tilt back at just the right angle, it's great.
Great video! Can't wait to see more from you, I'm so down for it
This video is amazing! Super professionally-made and has a great sense of humor. Looking forward to more! :D
Really good video! Great editing and a script that is both fun and informative. Looking forward to future content from you!
this video is way more fucking awesome than anyone has described thus far i promise you that
Love the editing and the useful information about Mii brawler counter.
This is a great video about a move that I’ve never touched.
This is a really good video Pyro! Can’t wait to see more from you
i actually like this video a lot. Love the mii characters, was nice to see someone talking about them :D
This was an insanely good video man really fun and also informative!
This video was great! I look forward to your next one!
LOVE the editing and info on this vid, keep at it!
Saw your Shotput vid in my recommended and had to check this one out too. Love the editing style and how well everything flows together. I haven't played Ultimate in a long while but I'm looking forward to whatever you put out next!
this video is so good dude, awesome editing and I love nice little analyses about single moves that are fun to talk about
This was such a lovely video. Rarely do I get taught new things I didn’t know about the game, but it just kept on giving! I even learned that my main Greninja has invincibility in specific parts of his body long after the counter starts!
This is great, really hope to see more content from you
Great video man! Keep it up! You explained everything super well and had a great editing flow throughout the videos so i hope you do more vids
Throw Counter being the worst counter in the game with the caveat of being hilarious elevates it to being objectively the best counter in the game, because you know you're upsetting whoever gets caught by it. And that's truly all that matters.
This video is fantastic! Based on its quality I expected this to be a multi year channel I had missed, but it’s your first in this style. Real excited to see what you do next!
This is a REALLY well made video. Also really entertaining, keep it up! 👍
Just saw this and your strongest projectile vid after it being randomly recced to me. Very nice. Educational and entertaining. Seem to be your first videos of this style, and I'm looking forward to more from you.
I wished I watched this sooner this was FANTASTIC, hope to see you make more like it
This video was incredible bro. Also you’re really entertaining and the pacing was also great. Keep it up man 😄
I'm two videos into your channel and I've already subscribed. These two most recent ones just hit right.
fire video man 🔥🔥🔥 keep ts up genuinely some of the best content out there
“Smash worst counter but also the funniest counter” should be the title
One of my favorite moves just because it looks sick, and that one smooth motion is very satisfying; when it actually works
Woah! Haven’t seen this channel before, and the editing and presentation style is super fun! Definitely looking forward to seeing more!
Great vid!! Very entertaining and informative plus great editing.
You haven’t uploaded in 3 years and come out with. Banger thanks
I love the effort you put in this vid. Congrats, you gained a subscriber
you should keep making these, you could be like an asumsaus for the SSBU community; love this video
Very well made video! I hope to see more move analyses in the future!
Really good video :) I'll check out your other stuff. Great humour and to the point
I made an entire video IN SMASH (Simply called Yeet) Dedicated to Counter Throw Kills. Its such a fun move to land, even with all of its downaides. Best part? As someone pointed out, The Exploding Side Kick and its ridiculous lack of end frames makes it the perfect counter to punishes. And one time, I did pull a cloud from underneath the platform when the up-smashed. Absolutely hilarious. 11/10 counter.
This is one of the best smash video essays I’ve ever seen, great work. Deserves more subs Fs
This was a really good video! Loved the editing and don't think I've subbed to a channel this fast lmao, hope to see more
Great video, your knowledge on the game is really good, and it’s difficult to find new things to talk about for this 5 year old game, so really good stuff
Ooooo I love in depth breakdowns of small things in fighting games!
This is a great video, good job man
Your editing style is super great, I dig it, made me want to play SSBU again
The only acceptable counter, remove lucario
This video is great dude! Keep up the good work!
Never seen your content before, but this is great! Keep it up.
I can’t really think of anyone who makes this style of content specifically for Ult. I would love to see more like this, the editing is great!
I love using counter throw dude. The sound it makes when it connects is music to my ears. The counter overall just sucks but when it activates its basically like marth grab and is so hilarious picking up people from mars. It really needs to be buffed somehow though like maybe it being the size of soras, getting to chose which direction to throw, or idk working against any projectile but its still fun. Its crazy how this is basically the only melee counter that doesn't work on min min or olimar but works against mii gunner f smash
Unironically one of my most desired Mii Brawler buffs, just because I think this move is sick. Even if they don't want to make it more consistent, they could instead make it absurdly strong.
great video, just discovered your channel and i love your editing and commentary
damn this is super high quality, keep it up
Wow I loved this video and it's your first one in 3 years. I'm subscribing. Great stuff.
please keep vids like this up. this is awesome
This is some high quality stuff. Keep at it.
ngl, I didn't even know about the ridculously small detection window for this move! A high quality vid, def need more subs dude.
Bro comes back to KZhead after 3 years and drops the most banger smash video out of nowhere
Wow this is really high quality content, love the vid
pros: lore accurate melee marth grab cons: everything
This video is high quality. Good work
Great video, hope you do more!
I was not expecting this level of quality from a 7-minute video But damn did I love it
I love that you added extra layers of sound effects, it's always nice when important sounds like that are emphasised.
You know who else can counter Wonderwing and Stone? Mii Swordfighter. And it's a normal counter so his whole body is protected during his long counter window.
Very good vid, would love to see more diving into Ultimate minutia
10/10 video. hope to see more like this
4:19 BRO GRABBED THE CHAIN, PULLED EM UP AND LAUNCHED HIM TO THE STRATOSPHERE
Yo, loved your editing on ESAM’s videos. Glad to see you’re making your own content too, great video
Man I love Videos like this
I've seen enough Smash clips to know that it's not about winning, it's about sending a message. And 6:46 will definitely send a message.
Now talk about ESK for Brawler, arguably the best physical charge move in the game
I found you through the shot put video, and I just wanted to say that you production quality is really good!
Just got recommended this channel out of the blue; how tf don’t you have more subs??? This is a great blend of both entertaining and informative (at least for an unskilled player like me).
Great video my guy 🔥🔥