Stain can look REALLY gross

2022 ж. 28 Сәу.
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Method 1:
- Apply gel stain
- Wipe off excess
- Apply three cots of oil-based polyurethane
Method 2:
- Apply water-based pre-stain conditioner
- Wipe excess
- Apply two coats of water-based stain, wiping the excess after each
- Apply two coats of water-based acrylic
- Sand with 320 grit
- Apply a final, thin coat of acrylic
Method 3:
- Apply water-based pre-stain conditioner
- Wipe excess
- Apply a coat of water-based stain
- Wipe off excess
- Apply coat of oil-based stain
- Wipe off excess
- Apply 2-4 coats of oil-based polyurethane
- Sand flat with 320 grit, then sand up through 400, 600, 800, and 1000 grits
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- Behr Water-Based Stain - Jacobean
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  • The accentuated look of the grain from the Gel stain, is EXACTLY what I am looking for in my countertop I am working on. I know you don't like it, but I like the tone difference in the wood. It makes it more "lively" than a solid finish IMO. Thank you so much for this video!!!

    @g2tegsown@g2tegsown Жыл бұрын
    • That's what I was thinking too. I really like the dramatic shade drop from the rings and think it makes it more of a show off piece than just another wood project I kicked out to end the nagging.

      @timmajorsdj@timmajorsdj Жыл бұрын
    • @@timmajorsdj I dont like this guy or video. He doesnt mention you can use tea or coffee as a prestain, since the answer with guys like this is always buy and consoom product . He has no tips or tricks because hes an imposter and an affiliate. Once you recognize their style you can pick them out easy. Furthermore, what are you doing with a stain? A stain is a paint. it prevents UV light from destroying woods lignin, corrupting its structure and making it grey. A stain prevents UV penetration and hides lignin corruption. So a very light stain coating may look attractive, but may not be the way to go, depending on where your locating your project.. Because its initially, and you have no experience or even know what youre doing to see what it would look like 10 or 15 years down the road. There's a reason for going with a dark stain and heavy application, in certain instances. Just food for thought.

      @gantz4u@gantz4u Жыл бұрын
    • I completely agree. I think the first one looks much better. If I wanted the natural beauty of the wood to disappear, I would just paint it.

      @tinynolamike6360@tinynolamike6360 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, I would have ranked them in reverse order too. The one on the left looks the best by far. It's all subjective, but why use natural wood if you want the result to look unnatural?.

      @PaulWolfe1@PaulWolfe1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@gantz4u nobody uses tea or coffee as a prestain

      @fantasyfan9320@fantasyfan9320 Жыл бұрын
  • I like the one you called "awful". I think it looks pretty cool

    @Desert-hagg@Desert-hagg Жыл бұрын
    • It may look fine on a single board, but on a larger scale it tends to look busy.

      @CheeseBae@CheeseBae Жыл бұрын
    • I agree with you, Karen. The one that was termed awful looked very good to me.

      @lockedloaded4942@lockedloaded4942 Жыл бұрын
    • I completely agree. The beauty of wood is the grain contrasts, design and flow. Otherwise, you may as well use mdf 🙄

      @bitmap1638@bitmap1638 Жыл бұрын
    • Imo it's not that it looks bad, it's that it looks dated. Reminds me of something I would see in my grandma's house

      @Hyperlooper@Hyperlooper Жыл бұрын
    • @@Hyperlooper good point.

      @Desert-hagg@Desert-hagg Жыл бұрын
  • 'Gel based accentuated the growth rings in a pretty darn ugly way' That was EXACTLY the look I want for my retro 70's look recording studio thanks for the tip haha!

    @Viriditas@Viriditas Жыл бұрын
    • Living in a house with random-width stained pine on the basement room walls, I can't see why *anyone* would want to do this to themselves :)

      @Psychlist1972@Psychlist1972 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Psychlist1972 I've since finished my build and I think it looks awesome!

      @Viriditas@Viriditas Жыл бұрын
    • @@Viriditas Nice

      @Psychlist1972@Psychlist1972 Жыл бұрын
    • I really like 70s wood styles. It’s interesting to how the rings look with all their curvy lines.

      @retroryan838@retroryan838 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Viriditas With the right lighting, the wood rings can accentuate a lava lamp.

      @Blodhelm@Blodhelm7 ай бұрын
  • I strongly prefer the accented grain. To me, that's half the point of staining, to make it "pop" and highlight the fact that I've gone to the expense and effort of using real wood, not OSB with a plastic veneer over it. The last thing in the world I would want, is to make the wood look less like wood.

    @gabrielfraser2109@gabrielfraser2109 Жыл бұрын
    • it looks like a cheap stain and not an expensive wood.

      @DETHMOKIL@DETHMOKIL Жыл бұрын
    • Depends on what the customer wants! If he wants the highlighted wood so be it, it has its own charm

      @swissalmonds2775@swissalmonds2775 Жыл бұрын
    • You can't use all accent wood everywhere in your house though. You need to have your accent peices have a subtle background or they look busy and not special.

      @climatecrisisdragon3628@climatecrisisdragon3628 Жыл бұрын
    • But wood doesnt ever look like that naturally.. so you end up making it looking less like real wood.

      @noahoros20@noahoros20 Жыл бұрын
    • That's exactly the issue "look at me, I'm using real wood" it's tacky.

      @Fco_Arana@Fco_AranaАй бұрын
  • I actually prefer the accentuated grain finish. It’s adds some depth and detail that I think can be a really neat feature.

    @TravisMcMurray@TravisMcMurray Жыл бұрын
    • see that's your opinion

      @eksine@eksine9 ай бұрын
    • I thought most of us did😂

      @terwillagermcghee4148@terwillagermcghee41486 ай бұрын
    • I think most people probably would too.

      @nedcramdon1306@nedcramdon13064 ай бұрын
    • It's just not a good look if used too much, google "Victorian home interior" and look at how they used the wood back in the day, in stairs and panels and furniture, the grain is very subtle and looks really beautiful and deep as a result.

      @Fco_Arana@Fco_AranaАй бұрын
  • I use gel stain specifically because it accentuates the growth rings, and I love that look.

    @MNNski@MNNski Жыл бұрын
  • It's remarkable how good youve made this construction lumber look. I sincerely didn't think it could turn out like this.

    @nickbailey202@nickbailey2029 ай бұрын
  • I liked the second one most of all. The final version just looked very Ikea to me. Really cool seeing how different techniques end in different results!

    @willnottel5598@willnottel5598 Жыл бұрын
  • I have stained a ton of clear pine from home stores with gel stains and it works extremely well as you demonstrated to avoid blotching. If you run into areas where you do not wipe off the stain fast enough, sometimes you can reapply the stain, which tends to reactivate the dried area and wipe it back off. This doesn't always work but it is a lot faster than sanding back to bare wood when it does. I have also had great luck spraying water based top coats (sanding between coats) to get a quick build up finish. This helps avoid the overlapping challenges you mentioned.

    @seanfollis5639@seanfollis56392 жыл бұрын
  • Love the humor. You're crushing it with these videos!!!

    @MakingMadeSimple@MakingMadeSimple2 жыл бұрын
  • I'm really enjoying your videos, Scott. Great information but presented with humour, which keeps it interesting. Thanks!

    @markh7484@markh7484 Жыл бұрын
  • Another great video Scott. It's interesting to see some fine furniture level work being done on construction lumber. Keep up the good work.

    @frankpratt529@frankpratt5292 жыл бұрын
  • Your videos are just great. Love the personality you bring along with really trying to be entertaining and informative. Keep up the great work!

    @brent1041@brent10412 жыл бұрын
  • Very good video! My husband and I are full time carpenters and I absolutely loved this. I like to play with stains and finishes to get the results the customer wants. This is very informative and helpful! Keep up the good work. Thank you!!!

    @brookswolfe6478@brookswolfe6478 Жыл бұрын
  • This might sound silly, but I have had good luck with some of my wife's acrylic paints watered down as a stain. Of course the wood gets prepped and finished in the other ways mentioned, but for my little projects I just can't be bothered to deal with picking out stains at the store. I have no idea what the cost comparison would be if we didn't already have the paints.

    @nefariousyawn@nefariousyawn2 жыл бұрын
    • Regular old latex paint works as well. There's a couple videos here on KZhead about it.

      @russellborrego1689@russellborrego16892 жыл бұрын
    • I’ve used burnt umber with great success.

      @scottrevia1611@scottrevia1611 Жыл бұрын
    • Paint washing is awesome!

      @victorialawrence4782@victorialawrence4782 Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome and well presented as always Scott! Loving all those comedy clips, absolute bonus 🤙🏻

    @monkeyboysworkshop@monkeyboysworkshop2 жыл бұрын
  • For a newbie like me, this is a great video! And I think I will master ONE type of stain/finish way before jumping to another, many details in each. Great job and keep your supporting actress in front of the camera! Great duo!

    @ericpetitclerc5519@ericpetitclerc55192 жыл бұрын
  • The water + oil finish is soooo good! It makes the cheap lumber looks so nice.

    @chomp54321@chomp543212 жыл бұрын
    • I think that was more the 1000 grit finish. IMHO

      @robertbrandywine@robertbrandywine Жыл бұрын
  • Appearance is subjective. I like to see the wood grain, and the splotchy areas. I think it makes the wood more interesting to view. Your work is excellent, it looks factory made.

    @catmando4914@catmando4914 Жыл бұрын
  • Lots of great information in this video. I need to watch it again and take notes. Great job Scott

    @WoodworkingYouTubers@WoodworkingYouTubers2 жыл бұрын
  • What a well thought-out and presented video. I came with a question about wood conditioner, and left feeling entertained and maybe even a bit smarter. Thanks.

    @filmismorefun@filmismorefun2 жыл бұрын
  • This is the video I wished was around when I first started working with stains and finishes. Great job Scott!

    @AJBuiltThis@AJBuiltThis2 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks AJ!

      @ScottWalshWoodworking@ScottWalshWoodworking2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video! I would've loved to have seen a final labeled comparison at the end.

    @Snausages32@Snausages322 жыл бұрын
  • You really kept your video moving. Well done. Thanks!

    @Steve-hj6xv@Steve-hj6xv2 жыл бұрын
  • I am going to finish my new natural wood door frames. Your taste isn’t my taste and vice versa. Lots of very worthwhile tips. Thank you so much for showing us all those techniques. I actually like all of the tree rings showing.

    @JASHJustASectionHiker@JASHJustASectionHiker2 жыл бұрын
    • so do I. and I HATE the plastic look of the poly

      @burtreynolds3143@burtreynolds31432 жыл бұрын
  • I appreciate the info as well as the humor. I was cracking up at a few parts.

    @robertgillcrist9528@robertgillcrist95282 жыл бұрын
  • Regardless of one's preference, is nice to see these options and how they vary the results. Thanks for sharing!

    @chuckbowie5833@chuckbowie583310 ай бұрын
  • Funny, informative, and with everyone's favourite guest star! What more could anyone ask for! :)

    @rachelsalsberg5011@rachelsalsberg50112 жыл бұрын
  • Great overview! Well presented, it's always good to see the direct side-by-side comparisons on test boards. One thing I think _everyone_ should explore though is wipe-on poly. Wipe-on has _so_ many advantages over straight oil-based poly, chief among them being that the method is so almost impossible to screw up that even first-timers can get a great result with almost no effort. The application method inherently gives one or another very nice surface finish - the "hand-rubbed look" is sort of the default - without any significant extra sanding. Not that I'm suggesting people go out and buy wipe-on, because then you pay them (too much) for giving you less actual finish haha. Diluting your own is generally way cheaper, plus it gives the user control over the dilution level which may be best tweaked during the process (1st coat thinner, coats 2-4 less thin, last coat thinner again) and definitely should be tweaked season to season (more dilute for cold weather in an unheated workspace), and what solvent to use (OMS v regular mineral spirits v naptha or xylene) to make a faster- or slower-drying finish as suits the user (and their tolerance for solvent odour!) along with the drying conditions.

    @tungsten_carbide@tungsten_carbide2 жыл бұрын
    • It's remarkable how much the video and this comment echo my own experience and recommendations. However, while I also like rub-on poly, I'd advise caution with the rub-on over stain and especially gel stain. Even after a long stain cure (i.e. a couple days) the solvents like to lift the stain and leave it pale, thin, and blotchy or smeared - especially if the target shade was very dark. To avoid this, I thinly apply the first coat with the lightest method practical (such as a foam brush if small scale), let dry without "rubbing," and sand with straight paper only (like printer paper). After that there's enough protection layer to handle firmer application and more aggressive denibbing. But if going from very light wood to very dark stain, and lighter duty protection is sufficient, that milky-when-wet water-based Varathane finish is still more reliable and foolproof. I also personally prefer that finely textured satin sheen over all but the very best oil-based results in any sheen.

      @HonoredMule@HonoredMule7 ай бұрын
  • I love the detail you go into in this video. I'm assuming most of those tips would transfer to other woods too. I dont use stain much at all. I tend to find the wood that looks like what I want it to look like. I understand thats not always cost effective though.

    @DylansDIYWorkshop@DylansDIYWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
  • Love your videos! This was a great comparison thank you 👌

    @jeffbesselaar3964@jeffbesselaar39642 жыл бұрын
  • The pillows and feet in the air were a hilarious bonus. I thought she was just gonna fall but then her feet fly up and surprised me. I also laugh at the conversation that goes on when you tell her what you are asking her to do for the video.

    @FearsomeWarrior@FearsomeWarrior2 жыл бұрын
  • If you want to avoid oil-based products, I've had a lot of success with dewaxed shellac (like Seal Coat) bringing out figure in wood before whatever topcoat you want to use (I've used water-based poly and other products, but the dewaxed shellac can be a barrier coat between any two types of finishes). Bonus: the same Seal Coat product will work as your sanding sealer before staining. It also smells really nice. I generally avoid pine (I just don't like how it looks), but other woods, like Cherry, can easily blotch up as well.

    @Psychlist1972@Psychlist1972 Жыл бұрын
  • Scott's production, performance and scripting are excellent. I wish he would have slowed down on his best and final so it'd be easier to track the steps. He definitely has strong feelings about imperfect coloring and pine grain patterns, but in the right setting and project, imperfect can be the better balance. I love modern design and perfect finishes, but in my house I prefer a more casual, light-rustic feel.

    @independent900@independent9002 жыл бұрын
    • This mans advice right here

      @ryanbiggs7083@ryanbiggs7083 Жыл бұрын
    • Whenever a video is a bit too fast paced, I like to click the gear icon in the corner, and set the playback speed to 0.75x. Easier than rewinding over & over. Cheers

      @mikegammo9002@mikegammo9002 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mikegammo9002 Great tip, thx

      @independent900@independent900 Жыл бұрын
    • Same, I love the colors and contrasts. When I look back at color corrected photos from the 60's to 90's, it makes me wonder, where has all the color gone? Why is everything dull and monotone now? Anyways, for me, seeing the grain pattern in wood is extremely soothing and enjoyable.

      @FrostyPixelsOG@FrostyPixelsOG Жыл бұрын
  • I’m really trying to get better at hand planing most of my final surfaces to reduce sanding time, sand paper expense over time, and reduce dust. There’s a learning curve for technique, and a huge learning curve for how to tune up the cheap home store versions of the tools. I’ve had mostly good luck starting out with that thanks to KZheadrs focusing on the diy/new woodworker hobbyists. Thanks for the great video.

    @MemphisCorollaS@MemphisCorollaS Жыл бұрын
    • Hand planing can burnish wood surfaces. The grain gets closed up. Then finishes may not apply well. So before I finish a piece I've planed I rough it up some with sandpaper. Very fine sandpaper. 220 grit works for me. I am just looking to knock off the case hardened layer. That light sand evens everything up.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred2 ай бұрын
    • @@1pcfred thanks for the tip

      @MemphisCorollaS@MemphisCorollaS2 ай бұрын
  • One trick I see a lot for getting a really good sanded finish is that you spray the boards down between each grit with water so that the fibers expand naturally like they would once you start staining, and the sanding takes that off, not just the dry fibers.

    @1steelcobra@1steelcobra Жыл бұрын
    • Sanding wet wood is annoying :c

      @chang.stanley@chang.stanley Жыл бұрын
    • @@chang.stanley You don't soak it, you just get the fibers on the surface to pop a bit.

      @1steelcobra@1steelcobra Жыл бұрын
    • @@chang.stanley you let the wood dry before sanding it. Still makes the grain pop and you get a better result

      @sarahjoyce5041@sarahjoyce5041 Жыл бұрын
    • @@sarahjoyce5041 Oh, cool :O

      @chang.stanley@chang.stanley Жыл бұрын
    • This is called water popping. Wood floor installers/finishers use this too.

      @narlycharley@narlycharley Жыл бұрын
  • I love the interaction with your wife in your videos. Fantastic VoiceOver ;)

    @kristianhorsager2968@kristianhorsager29682 жыл бұрын
  • For top coats, I've gotten really good results with several thin layers of wiping poly (like 4 ish?), and a thin rattle can coat on top. After it's set up I buff it out with a paper bag aggressively. Ends up looking real nice :) I started with wiping stuff because wow do I hate cleaning brushes.

    @SamJantz@SamJantz Жыл бұрын
    • Progressive thinning coats is how I achieve a fine finish. I want the final finish to be chemical sheen. So I want it to just level off. One secret is after you've built up a finish you need to realize you're not longer finishing wood then. You're finishing finish. So that means you can wet sand. You should wet sand too. I have brush cleaner so I don't mind cleaning brushes. After I brush clean brushes I wash them out with soap and water. I am not a fan of wipe on finishes unless they're just an oil.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred2 ай бұрын
  • Great video! Thanks for sharing

    @brainwashingdetergent4322@brainwashingdetergent43222 ай бұрын
  • I rarely use stain because getting the right technique can be a challenge. I like method 2 though. Very well presented. Thanks!

    @Erik_The_Viking@Erik_The_Viking2 жыл бұрын
  • The way you present all this info...so nice. Other videos have you watch them stain the entire process and you just skip right to it.

    @BattlefrontZero@BattlefrontZero7 ай бұрын
  • Sanding is our true hobby, everything else is a by product of that hobby.

    @wyildcard@wyildcard2 жыл бұрын
  • Wow that last one looks fantastic for construction lumber. I’m trying to add some 2x10 treads on my basement steps since I’m finishing the area. I just test stained a piece with true black which may be a bit too dark. If I could get the result you had with the Jacobean I would be thrilled.

    @elemento1991@elemento19915 ай бұрын
  • The Bob Ross clip was hilarious!

    @chuckmaddox6725@chuckmaddox67252 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the video. I like the look of the water based stain. The last method looked plain.

    @ElCidPhysics90@ElCidPhysics902 жыл бұрын
  • I used Behr stain and poly in one on a recent office unit. 2 coats and your done. Looks and feels great

    @drvwoodworks@drvwoodworks Жыл бұрын
  • I love this video, and I'm going to use your method 3 on a 14'x4' table I just finished building. I will have to figure out a way of sending you pictures when I'm done

    @jordanbowes5707@jordanbowes57072 жыл бұрын
    • Sounds great! You can send it to me on instagram, @scottydwalsh

      @ScottWalshWoodworking@ScottWalshWoodworking2 жыл бұрын
  • 2 coats Danish oil + 3 coats water-based polyurethane is my go-to finish. Sand with 180 grit between coats on the urethane. Watco's been super backed up on their manufacturing side though so you might have to haunt a bunch of different stores to get the hookup.

    @mo0seboy@mo0seboy2 жыл бұрын
  • You definitely deserve the likes on this one. Very thorough. Wife succumbing to fumes.. Hilarious.

    @MarketsReframed@MarketsReframedАй бұрын
  • Thanks, that video was helpful to me. I also like your trademark "bye" at the end.

    @eCitizen1@eCitizen12 жыл бұрын
  • I do a similar sanding progression between coats, except I use Scotch Brite pads instead of sand paper. Maroon is 320 grit and then I work up through Green, Grey, and White on the final coats.

    @NastierNate@NastierNate Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent presentation

    @aalovelace2776@aalovelace2776Ай бұрын
  • I love the look of the gel-based stain, but you can't deny how clean that final one was.

    @LordMogatron@LordMogatron Жыл бұрын
  • I started using General Finishes Arm R Seal for my top coats and it is so easy to work with. Highly recommended

    @bobkrueger194@bobkrueger1942 жыл бұрын
  • I liked method 3, I think I’m going to try it! Thank you😊

    @offwitmelkychrms@offwitmelkychrms Жыл бұрын
  • My favorite finish to use on soft woods is Shellac. You can buy it as clear, amber, or smoke color... or you can dye clear shellac with alcohol based stains. Shellac is easy to apply, easy to repair, & easy to smoooooooooth.

    @OOTurok@OOTurok Жыл бұрын
    • Shellac is nice but can be difficult to apply evenly on large flat surfaces. Plus its horrible for tabletops due to it being soft. I only use Arm-R-Seal by General Finishes for table tops.

      @LBCAndrew@LBCAndrew Жыл бұрын
    • @@LBCAndrew If you apply thin coats & sand between coats... shellac is very easy to aplly evenly on large surfaces. Shellac being soft is only a problem if you build a thick finish. In that case, if you desire a glass like coating over a table top... then a self leveling epoxy is better.

      @OOTurok@OOTurok Жыл бұрын
    • @@LBCAndrew I don't have a problem with shellac because I am not looking for a final finish with the first coat. I use cut shellac as a sealer on the first coat and it mostly gets sanded off. For me if I'm looking for a fine finish on wood it typically takes me at least 3 coats. I expect the first two coats to come out like trash. If I'm lucky whatever I do the third time around works. But I don't always get lucky. I keep finishing until I get the results I desire. I will apply poly over shellac for a more durable finish too.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred2 ай бұрын
  • Great video, Scott. I'm gonna have to try some of this. Usually the projects made of construction lumber aren't really the ones I'd put much time in finishing them. But with this guide these projects may end up looking a whole lot better. Thanks!

    @Pete_76@Pete_762 жыл бұрын
  • Method three wins but I just can't! I need the shortest and least time consuming method to stay sane. And for that reason, I'm going with the first method. Looks great and thanks for the help!!

    @BlakePizzey@BlakePizzey2 жыл бұрын
  • I find sanding after a long day at work really relaxing!

    @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531 Жыл бұрын
  • Haven’t stained and sealed yet but supplies are on the way. LOVED your video with lists and comparisons. Found your video while trying to answer the question Which Conditioner to Buy (for water based stain or for oil based stain) and why are those conditioners different? My cabinet-water-splashed-stain-repair project is going to be finished with Oldie’s Oil, not available in box stores.

    @katylowe3504@katylowe3504 Жыл бұрын
  • This video helped me determine my guitar finish, THANK U 🙏

    @aaronquinn8241@aaronquinn8241 Жыл бұрын
  • I really liked the Gelstain look. Would love this effect on my board game table.

    @biodelic@biodelic Жыл бұрын
  • Serious question, do people really dislike sanding? That's my favorite part of a project. It's really when you start to feel the texture and see the work that you put into a project. It's so satisfying!

    @ThePhilocypher@ThePhilocypher Жыл бұрын
    • @B.L.A. That sounds Like a good thing to me.....

      @ThePhilocypher@ThePhilocypher Жыл бұрын
    • I'm not a fan of sanding. I find the work pretty tedious to do. But at the same time I realize it is part of the job. Still, if I had a magic wand that could do it I'd use it. Sanding is what makes or breaks a finish, that's for sure. If the surface isn't smooth your finish isn't going to be smooth either.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred2 ай бұрын
  • Well explained and demonstrated. thank you. Appreciate the tips and tricks. God bless!

    @travis7904@travis790410 ай бұрын
  • I have finished using either Helmsman Spar Varnish or Diamond Varathane. I have sanded with 220 after it has dried and reapplied another coat. The Spar is a much longer process. To apply them I generally use a Spongie but I have poured the finish on the project and used a plastic blade type applicator, like you use doing bodywork to spread the finish. I tried using that milk white Pre-Stain stuff but I did not see any real difference except it cost more and took longer. I use a lot of colored stains like blues, greens and reds. About the only oil based stain that I use is Minwax Dark Walnut. Lately I have taken to trying out Shou Sugi Ban using Unicorn Spit Stain and applying wipe-on Poly. I recently tried the 3 Coat Varathane. It's expensive. I bought a can, used that and a week later went back for more. Only to discover at every place that sells it they inflated the price ten dollars. I'm in Canada. I love staining over painting. So I buy good wood and can still see the wood after staining. Even construction lumber can look really impressive when stained. But when you paint, you have no idea what kind of wood it is. I pretty much stain everything I make. The only time I generally paint is if the situation is such that I have no choice in order to hide problem areas.. In particular when I have had to fill in places with wood putty. Then again it depends on the wood I used as well. Can't stain MDF and Particle Board very effectively but I have given it a try. Really like your videos, very informative, I always learn something. And I enjoy the humor you bring to them. Thanks.

    @hardrock1826@hardrock1826 Жыл бұрын
  • The first one is exactly what I’m looking for. It’s going to be in a closet so it’s not something you see all the time but gives you something interesting to look at when you do see it

    @pennypincher1232@pennypincher12325 ай бұрын
  • thanks Scott, super helpful

    @rtzi57905@rtzi579052 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you 😊

    @robertjackson1407@robertjackson14077 ай бұрын
  • Take a tip from furniture manufacturers: avoid stain, use alcohol-soluable dyes instead. Add the dye to the topcoat and spray it on. One and done. Obviously, this isn’t for everyone. But dyes (available in both water and alcohol-soluable formulas) are *much* less prone to splotchiness than stains. A stain is a mixture of colored solids ground up and suspended in either water or alkyd. The solids collect in the small troughs between the growth rings present in any wood, making them stand out. Dyes have no solids, so they provide more even color. A bunch of years back I used a bright green stain (Solar-Lux) on BCX plywood (after sanding to 180), covered by acrylic poly. It looked great with nice even color.

    @bunkie2100@bunkie21002 жыл бұрын
    • I'm a big fan of alcohol-based aniline dyes for non-brown pieces. I used a bright red and bright blue dye on some simple boxes about 20 years ago, and the colors still pop. You have to exercise some care when using them, but because they're alcohol based, there's no heavy oil stink afterwards, and they dry darn near instantly.

      @ughtentide@ughtentide2 жыл бұрын
    • Another advantage to alcohol dyes is that they're very easy to mix and customize once you learn how.

      @mychalevenson7710@mychalevenson7710 Жыл бұрын
    • I would never add the dye to the topcoat since it makes it look muddy. I put my dye in the wood, and the finish ON the wood.

      @LBCAndrew@LBCAndrew Жыл бұрын
  • I've had good luck with water based stains topped with 3-5 thin layers of clear shellac (light sanding between each layer.) You get the color of the stain with the vibrant depth of shellac, and most home stores still carry clear (and orange) premixed shellac so it counts. I've used this technique anywhere that isn't a table surface people commonly eat off of. For table surfaces I prefer the durability of a poly.

    @BokBarber@BokBarber Жыл бұрын
  • I agree, my favorite look was the gelcoat on pine!

    @stevenaoliver2341@stevenaoliver23417 ай бұрын
  • Ooh I love those 3M sanding disks they're so nice 🤩

    @missmedjool@missmedjool7 ай бұрын
  • This is super helpful!! Thank you for sharing this! If I also want to wire brush it to add some 3D texture but I also want a even colored stain( like method 3), do I brush it after staining?

    @mikochanlulu9805@mikochanlulu9805 Жыл бұрын
  • Great vid.That Bob Ross clip made me laugh out loud!

    @pattyseel1892@pattyseel1892 Жыл бұрын
  • I love the more even stained look. the main problem is, in my country, nobody sells pre-stain conditioner.

    @Veronensis@Veronensis4 ай бұрын
  • Well done. Have to try your method 3 combining water and oil.

    @steelsunpi@steelsunpi2 жыл бұрын
  • I'm making a spray booth, I'll try this stuff once it's done. I might not even have to sand between coats, maybe the last few coats of clearcoat. I'll try using 2K clearcoat and basecoat too, and tinted candy clear too

    @eksine@eksine9 ай бұрын
  • I kind of like the accentuated grain look, though! The water than oil combo does look nice. I finally graduated from 2X & plywood building to hardwood. And boy does sanding make a *HUGE* difference. Thanks for another excellent video. That slap of the hand in the beginning was hilarious!

    @hansangb@hansangb Жыл бұрын
    • Me too

      @carrie893@carrie893 Жыл бұрын
  • I was looking for this video. Thank you

    @diycad@diycad Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. I will take your tip on vacuuming between sanding passes to fix some issues I had on a recent project (couple of swirles made it through). As for my favourite method...Optionally wipe wood with water to open pours if I want to get darker stain (with a quick final sand after it dries). Next apply oil stain with an old sock (no lint due to years of washing, holes optional) but only wipe on what the wood can immediately absorb for an even coat (re coat if needed later). Apply thinned out layer of oil based poly for first coat. Apply second coat. Sand second coat with either 600 grit paper or fine steel wool. Apply final coat with foam applicator but super thin, like squeegee/push it on not brush (adds final gloss without any brush marks).

    @rpower1401@rpower1401 Жыл бұрын
    • Traditionally you're supposed to use a tack cloth to remove dust between coats. But if a vacuum does it then more power to ya. The problem with running a vacuum is it may put dust in the air. Dust that may then settle on the work you're doing. We don't all have HEPA vacuum cleaners.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred2 ай бұрын
  • I am a big fan of wipe on Poly. It’s super fast and always smooth.

    @radpatriotmom4306@radpatriotmom4306 Жыл бұрын
  • The method I was taught by my father and have used for about 50 years is the 2 rag method with oil stains, wipe and rub until you achieve the colour you want then wipe off immediately with the second rag then a final wipe. For a finish my favorite compromise is an oil based wipe on poly, lay out all of the rags to completely dry.

    @monteglover4133@monteglover4133 Жыл бұрын
  • This is great. Thanks!

    @SunandSnowGardening@SunandSnowGardening10 ай бұрын
  • I just came here to say the one you called awful is Actually the best looking one and looks nice and rustic and like natural wood! I’m looking to achieve that look exactly.

    @zabiafaryabi5622@zabiafaryabi5622Ай бұрын
  • So many different types of finishes you can make look awesome. Each one can make a piece of furniture look very cool. Sometimes even sanding is not desirable depending on the project. Sounds crazy , but its not. I use spray paint on wood all the time before i ever sand. Add stain that has been deluted with thinner so it goes deeper into the wood, gives a good color without saturation of that color. Then after sanding adding colored wax instead of sealers. Just one way, but it goes to show that theres a thousand ways to get great colors and depth with and amazing soft to the touch feel. If a piece is suppose to look old then process changes compared to just a new stained product. So many fun ways. Get creative in your project by exploring different ideas. Youll be amazed. Great channel and great information.

    @user-bd5md5cm2j@user-bd5md5cm2j3 ай бұрын
  • thank you!! very helpful :)

    @shayliugolini9125@shayliugolini91255 ай бұрын
  • I just redid speaker cabinets. oil based stain, 3 coats of satin polyurethane. knocked off nibs with 320 sandpaper on coats one and two . coat 3 ( final) was pretty good. a few specks. used 1000 grit wet sandpaper, wiped it across finish and it took off nibs. didnt dull the finish. im happy with the result .

    @bigd835@bigd835Ай бұрын
  • Good tips! Thanks

    @bbur75@bbur75 Жыл бұрын
  • The one you think is so ugly, I actually love. It's far more interesting IMHO. Though it clearly depends on what you are working on and what you hope to achieve.

    @allyssaedwardssinkler@allyssaedwardssinkler Жыл бұрын
  • I usually use 3-0 steel wool on each coat of poly to get the smoothness and lustre of the finish in your final piece. Keep a strong magnet nearby and shop vac running to clear the air of steel wool bits, in addition to a good mask.

    @Sleveless@Sleveless5 ай бұрын
  • I actually vastly prefer the "ugly" accentuated construction wood stain, the others just look like a bad paint job to me. The whole point of staining is to have contrast, it's like with pattern welded metal.

    @swedneck@swedneck Жыл бұрын
    • i agree you want the contrast otherwise its well boring, nothing to see here

      @ronaldtreitner1460@ronaldtreitner1460 Жыл бұрын
    • the whole point of staining is to change it to your preference

      @Linguine1177@Linguine1177 Жыл бұрын
  • I like to go for method 3 but, swap the polyurethane for a tung oil finish and make it super glossy with a variable speed orbital polisher and wood wax

    @davidperry4013@davidperry4013 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. Suprised you don't have 1m views. Please keep at it.

    @2PercentJJ@2PercentJJАй бұрын
  • I often use a little CA glue on the attachment point of cheap foam brushes. Helps hold them together.

    @Farback95ww@Farback95ww Жыл бұрын
  • Interesting and helpful video.

    @GeorgeLowrey@GeorgeLowrey2 жыл бұрын
  • HI Scott. Love the finish on the last one. Do you find the paste gives it a more natural look over poly alone? And does the past take time to dry/cure and leave a greasy finish? Thanks!

    @jroy4646@jroy46464 ай бұрын
  • Personally I like cathedral grain and choose/cut my lumber to get more of it. This dose bring its own problems with cupping. As long as you are aware of this and work with it it can make for some dramatic finishes.

    @rolandkeys8297@rolandkeys82972 жыл бұрын
    • Cathedral grain is the least desirable cut of wood. It is indicative of flat sawn wood. But that's what low end wood is. Better wood is rift or quarter sawn.

      @1pcfred@1pcfred2 ай бұрын
  • I've seen recipes for that conditioner as just a mix of water and some wood glue. I tried it and it worked really good. I consider it necessary on pine unless you want strong grain effects. I'm pretty sure commercial places like Ikea put a clear coat on pine before a spray stain.

    @cadthunkin@cadthunkin7 ай бұрын
    • There are some waterbased conditioners/prestains that are pretty much the equivalent (oil-based ones are typically just highly thinned finish). In case you don't know, almost anything you can apply prior to stain application that partially blocks off the wood's ability to over-absorb colour in localised areas can work as 'conditioner'. In the more recent past a "washcoat" or "spitcoat" of shellac was pretty much the go-to method, prior to that it might have been diluted hide glue. You might want to try either or both of those in direct head-to-heads with the diluted wood glue, see how you think they'll compare (spolier: I think you'll be pleasantly surprised). P.S. One other thing that's worth trying, if you're not already doing this, is to apply whatever you're using and leaving it to dry prior to a light final sanding (with the same grit you stopped at previously).

      @tungsten_carbide@tungsten_carbide7 ай бұрын
  • my favorite way of applying stain is with a rag a brush can be better if theres alot of carvings or small details in the wood but for all other thing a rag is perfect

    @niq872@niq8722 жыл бұрын
  • With the water based stain, on a large panel, I would be inclined to try using a 4" terry cloth roller, moderately saturated, so it does not pool or drip, to apply evenly and quickly, then immediately wipe away excess with clean cotton rags.

    @orcoastgreenman@orcoastgreenman Жыл бұрын
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