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Cessna 183

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2023 ж. 6 Жел.
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A Cessna 183? What?!! Mark goes over the upgrades of this Cessna 180 that make it more like a Cessna 185 than a Cessna 180.
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  • It's such a pleasure watching someone who knows what he's talking about, talking about something he knows about!

    @av8bvma513@av8bvma5135 ай бұрын

    • Thanks.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Another priceless lesson from Jedi Master Obi Wan Pilkington. Thanks a lot from all your padawans.

    @tailwheel@tailwheel5 ай бұрын

  • This is currently my favorite aviation KZhead channel. I just love listening to the different model information, walk arounds, and little details. It’s great

    @FloridaFlying@FloridaFlying2 ай бұрын

    • Thank you

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50232 ай бұрын

  • Oh Mark, you're such a Cessna detail nerd! Reminds me of myself in my younger days. Well done! The 185 has always been my Cessna of choice, but this '183' is very nice indeed. I always smile at the Captain Morgan pose and comment! Keep up the great content!

    @Kwajdaddy1@Kwajdaddy15 ай бұрын

    • OK, Will do. Thanks.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Love your vids. Thank you. My grandson is in flight school, so I have to keep up ;)

    @TheRealRenn@TheRealRenn3 күн бұрын

    • That is awesome!

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity502310 сағат бұрын

  • thanks to your editor for leaving "cut" in the vid at 5:40 and the fumble at 10:40. fantastic deep dive. I wondered what a 183 was.

    @flysport_tedder@flysport_tedder5 ай бұрын

    • Editors choice.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • this is my old airplane! owned it for almost 10 years...fabulous bird, i still have the 5th-6th seat for the back i should sell.

    @phillipelgin1241@phillipelgin1241Ай бұрын

    • Did we buy it off you back then?

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity5023Ай бұрын

    • @@skywagonuniversity5023 yes you did..

      @phillipelgin1241@phillipelgin124116 күн бұрын

  • We had C185s waaay back in the early 60s that delivered afternoon newspapers to country Victoria…..out of Moorabbin Airport. We went through 205, 206 and horrible 207 to BE36s…….plus Cherokee 6 and a Comanche 400.

    @davidpearn5925@davidpearn59255 ай бұрын

  • Mark again this is my very most favorite Tailwheel ever made

    @bernardanderson3758@bernardanderson37585 ай бұрын

    • Me too.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

    • I would like to come out there to demo one with you 😃

      @bernardanderson3758@bernardanderson37585 ай бұрын

  • Great to see you back again Mark - I was beginning to get worried! I really enjoy your somewhat light-hearted and very informative videos which should be essential viewing for anyone looking to buy an aircraft covered by one of your episodes

    @officialbritishtaxpayer5609@officialbritishtaxpayer56095 ай бұрын

    • Thank you kindly!

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • I bought my '61 182 from Steve Knopp.. (pponk industries) went up to his place to see it, fly it.. (he flew it, i watched from the right seat) ..his runway is about 1200 ft, maybe?.. the 0470-50 with a 3 blade McCalley made short work of it anyway. It was a fun hot-rod. Merry Christmas Mark and Don! 🌲

    @earlelkins9086@earlelkins90865 ай бұрын

    • Thank you.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Wow - I learned something ! Can’t imagine no tail wheel lock , Scare me ! Zinger ground loop .

    @bobwilson758@bobwilson7585 ай бұрын

    • 180 and 185's hardly ever use a TW Lock.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • I learn something every time I watch one of these videos. Nice to know I own a 186.

    @Cmoredebris@Cmoredebris4 ай бұрын

    • So is a 186 a 185 with an IO-550 by any chance?

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50234 ай бұрын

    • @@skywagonuniversity5023 According to my wife, it refers to the 186k I spent on every other upgrade.

      @Cmoredebris@Cmoredebris4 ай бұрын

  • That sound! LOVE IT! Purrs like a kitten 🙂 (Granted, a lion cub 🙂 )

    @Conn653@Conn6535 ай бұрын

  • I always used the tail wheel lock on the 185 because it did shimmy without it. Never stuck. Didn’t have two pins. Had a collar with a center key that rotated back into a key way in the top of the tail wheel fork trunnion.

    @wadesaxton6079@wadesaxton60795 ай бұрын

    • It will only shimmy if there is something wrong with it or you have a big tailwheel and the axis of the rotational disc is not horizontal to the ground. Set up right they never shimmy.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

    • @@skywagonuniversity5023 there was nothing wrong with it. It only shimmied briefly at touchdown, particularly when a lot of rudder was input for crosswinds. Just lock it and it’s straight and does have to shake before finding center.

      @wadesaxton6079@wadesaxton60795 ай бұрын

  • Great video Mark. Always learn something about the Skywagon from your videos. Love my 1954 180 with the O-470-50 Pponk

    @rmiller640@rmiller6405 ай бұрын

    • You own one. They are great engines, especially in the lighter older planes like yours.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • I used to fly tours in 61266 out of Rangeley Maine! This was my baby! Had it on PK floats back then.

    @davidspacek7750@davidspacek77505 ай бұрын

    • Small world. Excellent.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • LOL, C183, "I made it up!!" Good video Mark!!

    @johnrezzonico1139@johnrezzonico11395 ай бұрын

    • Thanks.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Nice aeroplane, I wouldn't say no. Youre a mine of information Mark, thanks for the enlightenment ✌️👍😊

    @musoseven8218@musoseven82185 ай бұрын

    • It's a nice one.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

    • @@skywagonuniversity5023 Yep it's a beauty for sure 👍✌️😊

      @musoseven8218@musoseven82185 ай бұрын

  • Thank you for the time spent creating yet another video…love the content.

    @stlflyguy@stlflyguy5 ай бұрын

    • Thanks.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Hi Mark - Great video! One note, I own a 1980 180K with a factory float kit. When I bought it, it had an optional *factory* tailwheel lock. It’s in the POH as well as an option. We ended up removing it for a tailwheel upgrade but it was a factory option at least for that model and year.

    @danielsallee@danielsallee5 ай бұрын

    • True. 180's had TW locks if the new buyer when new ordered it.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Love these plane overviews!

    @AnthonySaccoM@AnthonySaccoM5 ай бұрын

  • Awesome Plane!!! Thanks, Mark!

    @ph5915@ph59155 ай бұрын

  • Great information ❤ tks

    @JohnDoe-we9yk@JohnDoe-we9yk5 ай бұрын

  • Mark, did this plane have a wet wing? Noticed the windshield brace as for a float plane. I had a Cessna 180 J, 1974. Best toy I ever bought.😊

    @chriskiwi2601@chriskiwi26015 ай бұрын

    • No wet wing until 1979. That one is a 1977

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Mark.

    @skipmaloney2126@skipmaloney21265 ай бұрын

  • New company plane. You did good, everyone has a jet, your company plane has class.

    @DWBurns@DWBurns5 ай бұрын

    • I wish it was mine.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Thank you Mark, Fantastic video as usual.

    @JamesLangford-Cosslett@JamesLangford-Cosslett5 ай бұрын

    • Glad you enjoyed it

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Love the video Mark. Don’t know if anyone else made the correction but the 185 gear starts in 1964 G model

    @natekick7589@natekick75895 ай бұрын

    • Thanks, I was caught on the fly there.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Another great video. Never apologize for the "Captain Morgan."

    @eplyoung@eplyoung5 ай бұрын

    • It amuses me more than it should.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • A most enjoyable vid. Love the technical details 💪🏽

    @nigelhenry1327@nigelhenry13275 ай бұрын

    • Appreciate it!

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Great work as usual!

    @BIGJOESXR@BIGJOESXR5 ай бұрын

    • Appreciate that

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Mark, and I know you know this but the 470 and 520 essentially have the same cases and similar cranks, either 2.5 inch journals or in a BB 2.75 inch journals. But the big difference is the piston bores, 5.25 in a 520 and 550 and a 5 inch bore on the 470. With 550 the stroke was also increased from a 4 inch stroke on the 470 and 520 to 4.25 inches on the 550. So a 470 was a 5X4 bore and stroke, the 520 is 5.25 X4 inches and the 550 is 5.25X4.25. Cygnet has the STC to convert a 470 to a 520.

    @larryweitzman5163@larryweitzman51635 ай бұрын

    • True.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Aeronave bonita e desconhecida.

    @raimundodanielpereirasobri5898@raimundodanielpereirasobri58985 ай бұрын

  • Oh look it has a Float Plane Exhaust. Yes, we are paying attention. So what are you to call the modified 182??? 184!!! Good Job Mark! Mery Christmas Sir!

    @garyjones6914@garyjones69145 ай бұрын

    • Ha, well spotted, yes it does. Modified 182, hmmmm. 184? not sure about that one.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • 3:20 the old classic case of the 185 ego-itis haha

    @FlyingNDriving@FlyingNDriving5 ай бұрын

    • No substitute for Horsepower.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • I agree Mark! I love the detail and the way you explain the intricacies of all these aircraft. Can't help it notice, this turbo normalized RG while you're flying it looks like the strut cover is collapsing and opening up? Is that the camera effect or is it really doing that?

    @chapanation856@chapanation8565 ай бұрын

    • That is the camera wobbling

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Really enjoy your videos Mark. My 76J 180 does have a tail wheel lock, would that have been a special order as you stated that they were only on 185s?

    @bradadamson46@bradadamson465 ай бұрын

    • Yes that would have been ordered when it was new. Very rare.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Note that I have a 1981 Cessna 180k with a tail wheel lock.

    @timothyfarrell602@timothyfarrell6024 ай бұрын

    • Tailwheel locks on 180's were a factory option.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50234 ай бұрын

  • Ok … cut to the chase cobber ..$$$$ no pork pies … You could pass as an Arthur Daley ..😂

    @woodwelder@woodwelder5 ай бұрын

    • Not many people know who he is in his sheepskin coat and his old Jag. Arfer.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Thanks Mark. Love the video's. But the stinger is actually the tail cone with the light on the end. The bit with the tailwheel is called the Tail Gear Spring. Sorry :)

    @Texmexifly@Texmexifly5 ай бұрын

    • Erm, I think the stinger is the tube that the tailwheel is on. The bit that the light is on is the tailcone. :-)

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • The flying horizontal tail planes on the 185 … ? As in no elevators - Am I right ???

    @bobwilson758@bobwilson7585 ай бұрын

    • The 180 and 185 and 182's from 1956 to 1961 have a trimmable horizontal stabilizers with an elevator attached behind it in the conventional way. No trim tab though. The elevator becomes the trim tab ... in effect.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Do you ever get to see a Wipaire Boss 182 on amphibian floats. Would love to see you review it.

    @bobcfi1306@bobcfi13062 ай бұрын

    • If I get one, I'll do it.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50232 ай бұрын

  • Excellent video Mark! Love this deep dive. If you have one, a video on a Bushliner would be cool!

    @TheWiseGuyzz@TheWiseGuyzz5 ай бұрын

    • And by this I mean the 1850!

      @TheWiseGuyzz@TheWiseGuyzz5 ай бұрын

    • I'll do a Bushliner as soon as there is a complete finished one.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Interesting, the lightweight prop, does it not add a bit of vibration at idle speed?

    @johannviljoen64@johannviljoen645 ай бұрын

    • No, It is very very smooth. The big Continentals are very counter-weighted internally.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Damn, if I buy a plane I’ll pay you to do the pre buy!!

    @loub747@loub7475 ай бұрын

    • Ha. OK.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • You should showcase the Navion you have for sale. They are cool planes. Very P-51 ish...

    @FlightSimVRDad@FlightSimVRDad4 ай бұрын

    • Very good idea. Here you go! kzhead.info/sun/isqqop2kpJ17YJs/bejne.html

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50234 ай бұрын

    • @@skywagonuniversity5023 thanks a bunch! 👍

      @FlightSimVRDad@FlightSimVRDad4 ай бұрын

  • What no cell phone calls during recording of the video?

    @Mongo63a@Mongo63a5 ай бұрын

    • His phone must be broken!

      @JeremyJoubert@JeremyJoubert5 ай бұрын

    • My phone was on and in my pocket, we got lucky.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • I wonder if Hartzell is feeling the competition of the composite materials competitors? Would you still use aluminium? 🌏🇭🇲

    @johnfitzpatrick2469@johnfitzpatrick24695 ай бұрын

    • Each prop type has it's place.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Why the Gross weight difference on a 1956 180 between wheels(2550lbs) and Floats(2870lbs)?

    @jasonpeterson4166@jasonpeterson41663 ай бұрын

    • It's just how Cessna Certified them.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50233 ай бұрын

  • 180 cabin is narrower than the 185 though, right? Same size as early 182s and 170/172s

    @MichaelVanHeemst@MichaelVanHeemst5 ай бұрын

    • 180 and 185 cabins are the same from beginning to end. A 185 is the same width as a 172.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • How many of these 183's do you think are out there?

    @tungstenair375@tungstenair3755 ай бұрын

    • Quite a few. 180 owners, and 185 owners will modify them a lot. The favorite is a bigger engine and STOL Kits.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • So one bother. You said the 180 strut was the same as a 182. So must be the on board piece that precudes an AD?

    @garyjones6914@garyjones69145 ай бұрын

    • The 80 and 185's are not included in the lower wing strut AD. It's how they attach and it is different to a 182.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • You may have been busy but not in selling my friends 170😊!

    @michaelsamson3276@michaelsamson32765 ай бұрын

  • What is the compression ratio on the O-470-50

    @rogerwilco1910@rogerwilco19105 ай бұрын

    • I think that it is 7:1

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • Feel lucky that I went with the 185 right off the bat. This is an awesome airplane but a lot of downtime and money in mods to make this what it is.

    @fiedlertimify@fiedlertimify5 ай бұрын

  • I’m in San Diego. Where is it?

    @RaceMentally@RaceMentally5 ай бұрын

    • It's at Placerville in North Eastern California (KPVF) near Sacramento and it is of course for sale.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

    • @@skywagonuniversity5023 talking that 182

      @RaceMentally@RaceMentally5 ай бұрын

    • @@RaceMentally Which 182? I have several for sale and several coming in.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

  • 183? So it’s just a touch closer to being a 185 than the 180 it was born as? 😉 Would a “183” sell for slightly less than a comparable 185? Or are they so close it’s based on the individual aircraft?

    @erniekelly2479@erniekelly24795 ай бұрын

    • Yes, it should be a 182.5 but that's hard to say. Regarding value, They sell for more than the equivalent 180 but less than the equivalent 185.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын

    • @@skywagonuniversity5023 That just makes too much sense. Thanks so much for that great and incredibly informative video. Hope you had fun with it. Happy Christmas.

      @erniekelly2479@erniekelly24795 ай бұрын

  • Whats the name of the intro tune?

    @MarcP985@MarcP9855 ай бұрын

    • It was free online music.

      @skywagonuniversity5023@skywagonuniversity50235 ай бұрын
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