1953 Polished Cessna 180

Thanks. Come on up.

You have to live in a dry place to have one.

@@skywagonuniversity5023 darn corrosion!

The tail is flying in the propwash and steering is with brakes. You should see some of the real STOL planes flying off-airport. They never put their tails down.

@@skywagonuniversity5023 I’ve always wanted to get my tail wheel endorsement but then you see all the fabulous videos of people ground looping their birds and I just never got around to it.

@@robertd4468 It’s worth it. It opens a whole other world. I took primary in a Champ at LVK and my checkride in a Citabria on a max crosswind component gusty day at RHV. It’s akin to my dad forcing me to drive stick and learn a 3-on-the-tree non synchro clutch, and spending a full day with that van in San Francisco before I took my driver’s test. I never have to question my “law of primacy” inherent core skill level. You won’t regret the time invested to make it happen. I promise.

The control wheels have been unbolted and bolted on "upside down" for more knee clearance! 🤠

Good, not too much "geekiness" then?

Never enough Geekiness! If someone wants less go to another channel! You have such a wealth of knowledge and making sharing that your KZhead niche is great!!

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Bro…you do realize the industry and the clientele you are speaking to, right? I read your mini-bio on your website. You’ve been at this longer than I was wearing combat boots, and I’m fully retired for the past 3 years. If you don’t know that we are nerds-by-design by now, you’ve got a blind spot. I bet everyone reading this comment is knowingly nodding their heads. I’m being straight honest when I say that the first time I saw your site and watched your tempo and tenor and level of detail, and then saw it mixed in with “regular guy” personable conversation with the owners or fellow pilots, I thought to myself…”this cat is really on to something. He’s got the accent … that he’s probably about to school me is actually an anti-accent … … (as he reminds ME the actual name of the language that I speak, and then asks me a geography question, possibly referencing the originating epicenter of “Zulu Time - to remind me just exactly which of our two “accents” is uniquely native) But that sets him apart from the crowd. He isn’t a young hustler, unrelatable to most customers in the socio-economic demographic that can usually enter this market. He isn’t an old crusty fella that sneers at tech in the cockpit. But he seems more at home with a Scott 3200 and steam gauges than excited at an Avidyne or Garmin glass stack, and is the first guy at PVF I’d be likely to ask to give me a hand throw to fire up my Continental A-65 hanging wood on her nose. And he doesn’t gloss over the little things that make an inherently frugal and detail oriented customer realize inherent value at a premium to what we see while cruising Trade-a-Plane or Barnstormers (My Champ was restored using PK screws to the ribs vs Rivets…you are the one fella I’d vote most likely to highlight that quality level of detail in an ad) And most importantly of all, he takes us FLYING with every ad. And there are pilots reading this comment of mine that are only now reminding themselves that it was actually an advertisement (oftentimes) because it doesn’t feel like an ad. It ain’t a Cal Worthington commercial. It’s not a deep dive full length documentary. It’s just right. Multiple times I’ve watched them and thought to myself “how can I pivot his approach slightly and massively extend his reach…this has got to be easier than it seems, because NOBODY else is doing it as right as this guy.” That’s the real reason I mentioned taking you out for chow when I come back to Hangtown. I see some real brilliance in how you approach this and look forward to every notification I get when you upload content. I’m gonna guess I’m far from the only one that thinks that. Kudos on all that you do, Brother. This is precisely how we keep GA and antique birds relevant and intriguing to the next generation and beyond. TL/DR: No. Not too geeky.

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@@SnoopDougieDoug Thank you very much for this.

Thank you very much!

You are welcome, David! - Don the Camera Guy

I remember. Going for a first ride in a 180 can be very expensive.

Great airplane, my Dad had a 1955 180, actually a pair of them, ser. 31920 and earlier ser. 32005 if I recall correctly up in western Canada in the 1960's & 70's. Those old 180's gotta love em

@@dwaynemcallister7231 My dad sold that airplane a long time ago and like 20 years later I get these pictures in the mail. It was a totally reconditioned N2238C !! Some guy in Minnesota bought it and he used it for business. He literally {and I mean LITERALLY} flew N2238C from Minnesota to California and back and to the East Coast and back, and everywhere else in between. I'm not sure what kind of business he had, but I just thought it was great the airplane was being used for something useful.

It's a very good idea. Than ks for responding.

That's the one. 70 years of history in it.

Zip had removed every thing that wasn’t necessary to lighten the aircraft and we used it as a ranch “pickup”. I had a controller in Midland, Texas gripe at me one time on final approach when he asked me to do a 360 as I was getting too close to a C-150 in front of me….I told him I would “stop right here for a minute” to give them 150 more room! He chewed me out for not telling him I was a “helicopter”……..I replied that I was a C-180 with a Horton STOL kit not a Helicopter…..Lots of good memories in that bird. Zip last flew it to Ruidoso, New Mexico in Sept. 1991 to pickup the Aerostar to fly it to Reno for Jimmy’s airshow. I was asked to go with him on that flight but but I couldn’t make it. The pilot Jimmy hired to fly the “star” crashed right after Takeoff killing Zip and himself……pilot error! I wished for years that I had gone with him as the crash would have never happened! Those were the days…..

@@edblevins8764 Interesting about the slow flight in the 180. Fun doing that. Sad about the crash in the Astar.

@edblevins8754 I came here to leave the same comment about the first notch of flaps. My Dad, Andy Clayton is familiar with the airplane and explained that to me.

I get away with it sometimes.

Great old planes. No-one knew that they would be "generational"

Thank you, Tony! We got a new camera mount that makes it possible to mount (on some aircraft) to the outside of the plane. We'll keep using it in future videos. - Don the Camera Guy

Back when cars were made of steel and you could ride in the back of your drunk uncle's pickup truck.

It can have a burble over the approach end of 23 in a wind.

300 landings to get that one. Ha ha, no, got lucky.

@@skywagonuniversity5023 it was a textbook landing nonetheless Mark.. well done.

Thanks.

I can help......

Thank you for the praise, Tomasnock! - Don the Camera Guy

Thanks.

Wet on the coast in the panhandle. Desert dry in the interior and all moisture is frozen all winter. Alaska is mostly very dry.

Shades required.

Thanks.

I will . Thanks.

An Aero Commander 112 next.

​@@skywagonuniversity5023 Those Rockwell Commanders are the coolest looking small airplane ever built. They have some front seat room too which is nice because I'm 6'4" and 270lbs. I'm looking forward to the video. I tried to buy a 112A when I was in college. N1355J. It was abandoned for a few years on the airport I worked at. It had been repo'd and I think that PNC Bank didn't know what to do with it. I made them an "as-is" offer, but they ended up putting it through the shop to get it to pass annual. It was in good shape minus some "lawn mower rash" on an aileron. I think the repair for the aileron was the most expensive thing we did to it, but all the little things it needed from sitting around really added up.

It looked staged, but that was a real call. Sorry. Ha ha ha

@@skywagonuniversity5023 The calls being real is why we know we are watching Skywagon University

Thank you.

Ha , sorry. Couldn't resist.

Glad you enjoyed the video, Cameron!

Thank you, John! The overlay is just a representation of the panel, using GPS data to create it. Not perfect, but still useful! - Don the Camera Guy

And it is 70 years old.

Even with rear seat vents?

Like the one that taxi-ed by after I landed?

You must be in England. I used T-cut on my old cars back when I was at college.

@@skywagonuniversity5023 - Great stuff, we generally mixed ours 50/50 with Absinthe, mainly for the 'Harvey Wallclinger' or 'Scrumpy Surprise'. Oddly, the SU bar would never serve it pre-mixed. Good for the odd paintwork job too : )

I could not steer my pedal tricycle at 5.

@@skywagonuniversity5023Yes, but I had been practising steering, madly pedalling everywhere like crazy, in a blue, pin-wheeled, 16 gauge steel Mk1 Zephyr pedalcar, since at least 3.

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Well, apparently she flew herself anyway.. lol Here is an excerpt from the '3rd level NZ' link.. "Cessna 180, ZK-BUF (c/n 180-32935). The Auckland Star, carrying a promotional article on the Club’s activities, reported that “The Cessnas ‘fly themselves’ once they are at the required height and on a steady course. The pilot just relaxes and, if he wishes, smokes.” While regular flights were made, the Great Barrier service tended to operate on an air taxi basis."

Yes, you can put an injected IO-470 in it.

Even if they are not turned over, worn rivets are replaced by bolts on many planes.

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Yeah, I've owned two Cessna 140s and they both had bolts. I was told it wasn't legal and had to replace them. You're also not allowed to replace windshield rivets with screws, but it's a common practice. Not hurting anything, just an FYI!

I've talked to Alain De Cadenet a few years ago. He is famous for being buzzed by that Spitfire too. I have not seen the show but will look it up.

She's a working girl.

But I'd have to have a lot of wagons here to go over the schemes.

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Fair enough, that would be a lot of work. 😁

Very true.

The extra knee clearance makes it far safer but I know what you mean.

First thing I thought, and if anything happened, they’d screw the mechanic who signed that off/signed that annual

It's a deal.

It is 70 years old. They have a lot of fans over the years. Thanks.

Look on the channel there are three videos about 170's

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Yes very good, no AD's

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It’s on his web site for a cool $199K

The gauges take info from the Go Pro GPS info. The Go Pro must have been confused.

The overlay is created from GPS data. I knew it wasn't great when I saw the turn coordinator acting like it had just spiked an 8 ball of crack. The better the GPS data, the better the overlay. It's just a representation. - Don the Camera Guy

@@skywagonuniversity5023 Thanks, I was worried about you guys for a minute there.

Let me know when.

I suppose you could clear coat it but it's be so shiny before you coated it that the coating would not stick.

Hmm didn't think of that with clearcoat, but maybe a light oil-like coat would work. Would probably have to reapply regularly after flying tho. I at least know that works for all the polished stuff in my kitchen

Nearly like his.

In fact it was his. ;-)

i believe Mr. Mckenna has a 170B polished, don't see the 180 anymore up here.