Watch the Kifarucast episode first. Commentary on the Bowmars is always a bit risky. DONT SUE ME!!!
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I live in Alberta and when Josh killed a bear up here with a spear, it was in fact legal. As for the ethics of the bear kill, if you saw the video, the bear went down quick. That’s the way it should be. I’ve heard of far too many numbnuts wounding bears with rifles or bows, and yet they don’t get dumped on like he did. But the media generated by his hunt was so huge that Alberta Conservation “immediately “ changed the law banning spears. Would I do it? Hell no. But I fail to understand why he got dumped on for a legal and ethical kill. I know nothing about his issues in the US, and if they screwed up, well then you pay the penalty…period.
@mmcguire5687 Жыл бұрын
Since kifarucast comments were off, I figure, let ‘em rip here!
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
A hood civil conversation is always a plus, especially in today’s society. More honest discussion would do the world a lot of good.
@officerfoxtrot3633 Жыл бұрын
This is why I love watching your channel!! Real honest dude!
@jimputnam7539 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about any of that but I'm always excited to see you post a new video. Thanks Brandon.
@88northoutdoors29 Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@CJLiveFromTheOutdoors9 ай бұрын
About the spearing of the black bear, doesn’t Tim wells use a spear to kill a black bear?? If he did it why can’t he?
@nathanpeters8547 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always Brandon. I love this take on such a hot issue.
@redbeard_outdoors Жыл бұрын
The hunting community may need an integrity check.
@grizzledmillennial4765 Жыл бұрын
A small minority of the hunting community....yes! The vast majority of us are nothing like that idiot.
@fishnhunt3488 Жыл бұрын
Mic dropppp
@greekmaster1001 Жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you listened to the Chris Roe and Aron Snyder analysis podcast? They discussed a lot of the same concepts in great depth. Thanks for putting your honest opinion out there! I it isn’t easy these days!
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Why is it that every time I watch one of your videos, the opening of “Bulls On Parade” starts playing in the background of my mind 🤔 Love your content, man!
@brentbandy35666 ай бұрын
All I can find is a reaction video ep. 455 on KZhead. Can’t seem to find the original podcast anywhere.
@ckkone Жыл бұрын
Is the podcast still up or was it pulled down because I can’t find it.
@thesouthernoutdoorsmen Жыл бұрын
Very good perspective and honest assessment. I also appreciate It didn’t take a 3 hr podcast.
@dbpirate29 Жыл бұрын
Well said. I believe it was less a mistake on their part and more of turning a blind eye which would fit the sentencing they got. Sucks every way you look at it. Hopefully they learn from their choices and everyone can grow and move forward.
@JakeThomasFSU Жыл бұрын
Well put.
@CJLiveFromTheOutdoors9 ай бұрын
How is not reporting illegal activity a crime? This was the basis for their conspiracy charge. Insanity!
@davida.49338 ай бұрын
I wish a link to the podcast was posted as I had no idea about it.
@r1sabotage Жыл бұрын
I trust all your reviews in the archery industry , never been disappointed with a product you have shared !!! Thanks for everything you do !!!
@jamesk8275 Жыл бұрын
Very well thought out opinion, and great video!
@brettwelch8368 Жыл бұрын
For something we all care so much about it's hard not to be sensitive to this, I think most hunters/outdoorsman pride themselves on ethics and honesty.
@Bowsonthebrain Жыл бұрын
DNR officers in my state would disagree,they tell me ,they believe 75% of hunters are not ethical or honest. After working in the industry for some years I would have to agree with them. Such a shame .😮🤯😢
@anthonyforfare7223 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyforfare7223 that is sad, I had no idea the number was even close to that high !
@Bowsonthebrain Жыл бұрын
@@Bowsonthebrain neither did I bothered me immensely to hear that was really the numbers,I guessed 35%. 😮🤔🤯
@anthonyforfare7223 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyforfare7223 🤣🧢
@casanovafrankenstein8875 Жыл бұрын
Where can I get one of those black camo hats from?
@tullymahin3 ай бұрын
Well said agree 100% love the video. Great job watch both channels.
@tytownsends7709 Жыл бұрын
I don’t often comment on KZhead videos but I wanted to take a minute to give you props for your approach and demeanor with things like this. Definitely a very hot topic in the community and many would let their emotions take control, but I always feel like you do your best to try and have open dialogue and lead with as much neutrality and reason as possible. Well done sir
@davidwinn7294 Жыл бұрын
@@Brandon_Mcdonaldhuh?
@davidwinn7294 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly put, we have all screwed up and payed a price for something in life. They will move forward and only be smarter in the future.
@hellcatoutdoors Жыл бұрын
That outro... was gold.
@tjdreyer Жыл бұрын
Succinct and to the point. Well said. Especially the closing👊
@curtishulet7661 Жыл бұрын
Good discussion. First off, thank you for a very concise message. I could see other KZheadrs turning this into an hour long discussion. That's fine, but i tend to put long-form video discussions on my "watch later" list and never get to them. When i see a quick hit from you, i know you won't waste my time; it will be beneficial to me and it will delivered in a manner befitting a grown-ass man. Thank you for choosing to share your thoughts on the social mefias.
@CJLiveFromTheOutdoors9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching it! For some reason I lost some people with this one.
@brandonmcdonald61218 ай бұрын
My take on this is the Bowmar's got into a situation that they probably had no idea was getting as big as it was until the shit hit the fan! I would say the plea fit the crime and they being in the industry made it a bigger deal than what it was thus blowing this up and causing all the other BULLSHIT to start flying! Time to move forward, these folks are not bad people, just got caught in a bad situation that they knowingly should have removed themselves from years ago!
@paradisevalleyoutdoors7328 Жыл бұрын
What about when he purposefully used his crop burns to get insurance money. The man had 2 fire claims on his insurance in as many days.
@johndenver50292 ай бұрын
Perfect perspective
@macbarb12 Жыл бұрын
Well said, appreciate the honesty in your opinion.
@gettothepointarchery7932 Жыл бұрын
@@BrandonMcdonald.. Thanks for the offer, I always feel like it's a scam when I get massages for gift on here. Appreciate the offer, I hope it's not something I really want! Lol, Seems like new archery gear is arriving daily at our household. Cheers
@gettothepointarchery7932 Жыл бұрын
I just don’t wanna get sued. Lmao
@haydenjohnson970 Жыл бұрын
The problem I had was how Josh and his legal representative played the card that the Lacey act was the problem. He has never been accountable for his actions. He proclaimed innocence even after accepting a plea, which is an admission of guilt. The other aspect is Josh was in business with the business owner, so he was a little more involved with the outfitter than you presented. If he ever came out and admitted his wrong doing, and apologized for how he represented himself and the community, I’d say all sins forgiven once he satisfies his legal repercussions. That’s the point of being found guilty and paying the price isn’t it, your held accountable and learn from it. But he will never do that, his ego won’t let him.
@6saturdaysaweek Жыл бұрын
His ego or the roids.
@d500mag2 Жыл бұрын
@@d500mag2 lmao
@6saturdaysaweek Жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@jeffeager9779 Жыл бұрын
@@d500mag2 lmao
@6saturdaysaweek Жыл бұрын
Very well said! Gave me a different perspective
@joem6097 Жыл бұрын
Very well said and laid out there brotha. I also will not cast a stone at them. Thanks for using your platform to stand for what makes true integrity
@dustinhoffman9843 Жыл бұрын
Very good video Brandon!
@louisholtzhausen7436 Жыл бұрын
I can’t even find it I’d like to try and suffer through the podcast
@ryanhowelloutdoors7454 Жыл бұрын
I guess I need to watch the podcast.
@jeffboothe2102 Жыл бұрын
Never heard of Josh or Snyder or listen to podcast.
@stevepav8604 Жыл бұрын
Where’s the podcast? Latest one I see is the one they did with Hamskea
@coltonblanchard2605 Жыл бұрын
Kifarucast
@jeff_8789 Жыл бұрын
@@jeff_8789 it’s not there. The most recent was the one Aaron did with hamskea
@coltonblanchard2605 Жыл бұрын
It probably got removed.
@wadethewild Жыл бұрын
The ending was perfect LOL
@vanniek71 Жыл бұрын
1 thing that i noticed the whole podcast. Was snyder ask josh over and over about they had to know this stuff was going on. But josh just kept swaying away from that question. Like just say yes we knew but didnt think it was anything to do with us. Cuz we whernt doing anything wrong.
@lifeatfulldraw7163 Жыл бұрын
Well sir this is not about today's topic,but I figured you would want to know that someone used your video comment section to say I had won a Hoyt bow last night,but said they needed me to pay shipping with my credit card. I told them no thanks,but that I would notify you that scammers were using your site! As far as the Bowmar scandal,they were not wrong in how they killed that bear in my eyes,but knowingly breaking the law really hurt our community,just added fuel to the fire!
@virgilwilliford1581 Жыл бұрын
I lost interest in Kifarucast when Aron had Eddie Gallagher on (yes I think Gallagher is a war criminal). Bowmars mean nothing to me and they aren't representative of the hunting community either. Kifarucast turning off the comments is reflective of Arons thin skinned persona, which I don't understand why he cares what others think about him. He's done some good things for the hunting community. But the same thing happened on Rokslide when the Aron and Frank breakup occurred, a thread was locked when an open discussion happened on the board. Either way, let the Bowmars continue their cringe act, and huck their products.
@joeybennett1491 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Aron is a little too thin skinned, ego. He & Dan, from Elkshape,, dissed Troy(RF) & Dr. Ashby. During a podcast. Most of what they said was verifiably wrong. But, Troy corrected him on a podcast.
@timl8302 Жыл бұрын
You don’t get to be that much of a cocky jerk then just automatically get forgiven.
@Masonjar946 ай бұрын
Very thoughtful video on so many levels, I wish more communities of people felt this way...
@yganator Жыл бұрын
Excellent !
@ernestroger3326 Жыл бұрын
Meh. Idk. The court system will drive you to exhaustion to take a plea bargain just to be done with the case if they want you bad enough. Plus if they had gone to trial there is a chance things could have gone way worse. I suspect we have all turned a blind eye to someone we know doing something wrong at some time or another. Having said all that, in his position, yea he should have gotten out of Nebraska sooner.
@notzac5392 Жыл бұрын
@Brandon_Mcdonald Yess im so excited! What did I win?!
@notzac5392 Жыл бұрын
Would have to agree with you. A lot of temptation in the hunting world and I would imagine one would be hard pressed to find a hunt club or outfitter without a member that has crossed the line before (through their own actions), failed to report someone else’s wrong doing, or turned a blind eye. I don’t think being a member of the hunting community automatically means anyone deserves appreciation or respect but as humans always best to forgive and never forget.
@matthenney9075 Жыл бұрын
Next Aron will platform Muley Freak
@Mike69108 Жыл бұрын
I love you brother this takes a hell of a man to put that out there in a way I think you're doing the right thing you're letting them know that you accept them I never did not accept it because I agree 100% with you everybody makes mistakes and everybody deserves Redemption there's no way in hell that any one person judged it right none of us on Earth we have made our own mistakes but 2 have faith in the judicial system that's when you just went nuts LOL you're crazy as hell you have faith in the system I feel like every day there's an innocent proven to be guilty and I think our system shows that very well I love you though like a fat kid loves cake Brandon McDonald great video maybe we'll get other people to actually realize that they are not the judge they're not the jury and they don't hand down the verdict
@gibsonlife573 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never had a better compliment than “I love you like a fat kid loves cake”
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
I feel at ease that I could give not a single shit about any celebrity hunter. Good, bad or ugly I just don't care who they are or what they do.
@OutdoorShellback Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@chriskotaska8124 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to keep watching his videos, I dont agree with everything he does so I just chose to switch the video. Every person I'm subscribed to on KZhead I do the same thing. Hes got some pretty cool hunts, wasn't a fan of the hippo, just because I don't see a hippo as something you'd eat, doesn't look tasty at all lol, but that didn't stop me watching his channel. I love his nose button, help my accuracy and consistency tremendously.
@tylersweeney22 Жыл бұрын
Acceptance of hunting guilt, what about false advertising on their products guilt? Their overreacting to people that disagree with them, and the constant lawsuit distribution, hard to dicifier them as value to the hunting community
@rescueridgeadventures7776 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has needed to ask for forgiveness in the past, i agree with you brandon. Even though they might not care i forgive them.
@faulknertjf1984 Жыл бұрын
Josh has that intrinsic motivation to come back from this, and I don't think this issue will define Bowmar's success. Josh needs to put on the blinders and move forward with minimal attention to this mistake. On the other hand, he might need to hit the gym again to get back in shape first. "So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander" 1 Peter 2:1.
@The_Huntmaster Жыл бұрын
The fact that they argue/ block accounts and delete comments about them paying, losing huniting rights in a state and pleading guilty to conspiracy is what gets under so many peoples skin. It’s incredibly dishonest and disingenuous. No love lost for them from me, there never was any to begin with. The hunting community doesn’t need another snake in the grass. Justice may have been served in court, but not in the community.
@Mackerel1776 Жыл бұрын
So, I have zero issue with him being in the hunting community. Just like Tim Wells, we need our “extreme” personalities to push the limits on methods available to harvest game. That does not mean that I have to support his brand, businesses, or channel. He has been sentenced his punitive damages for this incident, and he will/has paid his dues. I hold nothing against him. He’s just not my cup of tea for a few reasons. The issue I have with Bowmar has always been his dishonesty. Any comment he gets on his videos that isn’t “way to go” or “wish I was you” gets deleted. I had some comments deleted that were constructive criticism without being overly negative. This provides a dishonest front that everyone agrees with him and his style. The other thing was the suppressed rifle on the mule deer hunt he was charged with. From what I understood, archery hunting or recovering game cannot be done with a firearm in that area. His video showed the guide and him celebrating upon recovery with the guide clearly possessing a suppressed rifle on his shoulder. His own video showed it clearly but he stated he didn’t know the guide had it then stated he didn’t understand it was illegal. I don’t believe the firearm was used at all. Lastly, the baiting. Yes, it was legal in his area and you couldn’t hunt within 200 yards of it. I don’t believe he was illegally baiting. But he admitted to hunting within a few hundred yards, presumably more than 200 but within sight (and his own account of 220 or so) of baitpiles. To me, that’s like a child with his finger a millimeter away from your eyeball saying “I’m not touching you.” Was he illegally hunting over bait? No. But was he hunting immediately outside of the bait in order to harvest animals to and from the bait pile, or to at least draw animals in to his hunting area with bait? Yes. So while true, I believe he was testing the limits of the law and hunting outside its spirit. So, all in all, here is my take. He’s been served his justice. Let the industry and the community decide as a whole how welcome back he is. I don’t mind if he remains in the community, but I stopped watching his channel for the most part before this legal issue came to my attention and I doubt I’ll watch much of his channel now.
@officerfoxtrot3633 Жыл бұрын
You know what though? Josh will kill more awesome deer than you ever will, just from this point forward. And it won’t be with a 1050 grain arrow either.
@progradepainting37553 ай бұрын
@@progradepainting3755 😂 I’m sure he will. I don’t have 6 figures of disposable income for hunting, even though I wish I did. Other than tracking my comments from a different Brandon McDonald video to here to make fun of me or antagonize me, was there a point you wanted to make? Or just insult me? I’m glad you have so much free time on your hands. Have a wonderful night. 🙃
@officerfoxtrot36333 ай бұрын
@@officerfoxtrot3633 kzhead.info/sun/pciqZct8gmKtbKM/bejne.html&si=w42GgrwYs53ctIuq they need a big tv at your dept. where this is playing 24/7, and all your excuses are posted below. Lol
@progradepainting37553 ай бұрын
I will forgive them this time because people makes mistakes as long as they don't repeat it again
@garyk76 Жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with them at all...he said himself he knew things were going on but didn't participate and that's what he plead out to..I love the nose button..Everyone always puts themselves high and mighty like they wouldn't dare do anything wrong . 180 inch buck walks out 1 min after last shooting light all the ethical hunters are gonna turn to poachers..There is a world of gray not just black and white..If you have 2 beers at a 1 hour dinner and drive home, should you be arrested, dui, have your license suspended. And he didn't want the bucks so what? They were his he don't have to take them, mount them, care about them. And so many people talking about unethical shots...define that...not everyone has the same ethics and skill.. If I am a really good shot at 70 yards and iv smoked 10 deer at 70 but lose 1 its unethical? If your confident in your skill is it unethical? If you don't like him don't watch him..I don't watch all his videos or live my life like he does but he has some good content that I enjoy..
@whitetailtherapy7908 Жыл бұрын
Any shot that is far enough away that an animal can react in time to move (and thus get badly wounded - and you KNOW it is likely to happen) is unethical. Josh's neck shot from 100m+ was a prime example of skill meaning nothing at that range - and for him to try to claim he had a double lung shot on offer was just a straight up lie. The guys ego is so big (to compensate for something - obviously) that he can't handle the tiniest bit of criticism or honesty. He's just a douchebag.
@NPC-fl3gq Жыл бұрын
@NPC #4079338 so then really 40 to 45 to you is the start of unethical shots? I mean we are taught to hold low or even under the deer to anticipate the drop. Which means we are taking a shot we know they deer js gonna react...But if they can drop they can also turn and turn into a disaster. But that's just differing opinion and that's fine.. and he is douchy..he does have an ego.. Im just trying to get at he isn't some type of monster lol..Alot of people are making him out like he needs to be hung in the gallows and my opinion is just not that.. But we all have pur opinions...doesn't mean either are right
@whitetailtherapy7908 Жыл бұрын
Steroid charges next? lol
@patrickpk62999 ай бұрын
I love you're insight Brandon, but I can't agree here. The Bowmars have been a cancer on the hunting community for years, the bear with a spear situation is just another thing to add to the ever growing list.
@jmike8934 Жыл бұрын
lots of people spear bears. Tim Wells has been spearing animals for years and broadcasting it on his KZhead.
@brockpeck7073 Жыл бұрын
Whats the problem with using a spear to hunt with?
@codysmith8042 Жыл бұрын
You must not follow Tim 😐 he spears like crazy.
@nathanwebb4784 Жыл бұрын
What’s the differents between josh bowmar and Tim Wells with spearing a bear
@jasondukette4155 Жыл бұрын
@@jasondukette4155 Irrelevant question and whataboutism is pointless. This was a Josh Bomar and not a Tim Wells video. That said if you want to argue then I will say you can remove the whole spearing a bear situation from his resume and it doesn't really alter how big of a cancer he is to Bowhunting. It's not really the fact he took a bear with a spear, it's how he conducted himself. There's a reason this topic became controversial when similar situations with people not named Bomar get ignored
@jmike8934 Жыл бұрын
The guy is a bone head, and bad for hunter / non-hunter relations. He and his wife both regularly take unethical shots and claim to have "smoked em", or made a great shot on the animal when the video shows otherwise. I think the guilty until proven innocent was out the window because of this type of stuff. Pretty Ballsy to go on a podcast like he did though, but still a bad name for hunters regardless. As for justice being served, do you honestly think they'll change anything they do? Or the way they hunt? I don't, does anyone else think they will? Also "90lbs" draw weight....how does he never get a pass through? I'd be curious to see a research video on this. Lol I'm not smart enough to do it myself.
@Akeela.4 Жыл бұрын
It’s the broadheads that he uses when he was shooting sevr he was getting pass throughs but since the switched to shwacker they probably bc of bigger cut and the way that they open
@darryckpellshaw3112 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to a 90#’er later this year. An APA King Cobra Dg. I’ll probably put videos up sometime of it if your interested.
@officerfoxtrot3633 Жыл бұрын
@@officerfoxtrot3633 definitely, thanks
@Akeela.4 Жыл бұрын
👌
@shadrickyoder8782 Жыл бұрын
Read the charging documents, they knew exactly what was going on there based on their text messages. Also let’s not forget, it isn’t just Josh, Sarah arguably did the worst of it poaching turkeys without a tag. I can’t believe there’s so many people that keep giving them an out when they keep up their trash behavior.
@wiscofan53821 Жыл бұрын
he was found guilty
@patrickpk62999 ай бұрын
We have all done something that we regret. Hopefully they learn from this. This is no different than a family member doing something stupid and they change and we accept them back. Learn to forgive
@edricheson Жыл бұрын
Didn’t this podcast of Bowmar on Kifarucast come out years ago?
@davidhoward7691 Жыл бұрын
They just released a new one about a week ago
@matt21418 Жыл бұрын
It's on KZhead. Kifaru episode 455
@fattybourgeois1014 Жыл бұрын
Good perspective. I think one of the biggest hang ups for me was how they handled the situation after taking a plea deal. They made multiple posts saying all charges were dropped making it seem as though they did nothing wrong. In reality, they plead guilty to one thing in order to avoid going to trial for other alleged offenses. They could have chosen to be transparent with this information, but rather, it seemed as though they tried to mislead their followers. In addition, while I believe the system works and "justice" was served in this situation, I think we can both agree that just because the plea deal included dropping certain charges does not mean they did not commit those alleged crimes.
@koypotthoff9750 Жыл бұрын
Why do you attract so many scammers?? I just called out three on previous comments..... I am waiting for one here.
@harveygalloway3965 Жыл бұрын
Amen Brandon! I completely agree with everything you said. It's over so let's move on.
@johncannady6105 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact you had the balls to do a video on the matter and share your opinion 👊 I'm just bugged that the dude and his wife had near zero remorse on the matter.... I mean guilty by association at the very least and man up to it.
@zeddro Жыл бұрын
So anyone that says they broke the law is wrong. You can bait in Nebraska. You cannot hunt within 200 yards of the pile of bait. You can shoot deer on bait if you are more than 200 yards away. Also the fines where charged to them three times because there was 3 entities there. I thought that podcast was very enlightening because every article says they poached and was no evidence. Also the bear spearing is sweet. Your condensed material misses some of the points that are made and is made to get clicks. They made a mistake knowing stuff was going on yet never had hard evidence that they broke the law. I’m not trying to talk down to you in your video but I’m just saying that everyone needs to go listen to the podcast because it helps everyone understand the context of everything.
@ColtonGunitoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Better check the regs…. Hunter nor animal can be within 200 of baited area. Area considered baited 10 days after removal of said bait. From Nebraskas big game guide book “It is illegal to hunt any big game animals or turkeys within 200 yards of a baited area. An area is be considered baited for 10 days following the complete removal of all bait. The hunter and the animal must be outside of the baited area during the harvest or attempted harvest. A baited area is any location where grains, fruits, vegetables, nuts, hay, minerals (including salt), or any other natural food materials, commercial products containing food materials, or by-products of such materials that may attract big game or turkey. The use of scents alone, normal environmental conditions, standard farming and ranching practices, forest management, wildlife food plantings, orchard management, or similar land management activities do not constitute a baited area.”
@rugerhoyt Жыл бұрын
I didn't watch the kifarucast because well I just don't care to. If anyone of us is judged on our worst of days we're all screwed. It's not a pardon on what has been done, but like stated in this video justice has been served. Now if the Bowmars don't change their ways and break more laws send them to the fire.
@hunterdolanch8725 Жыл бұрын
I support the bowmars. Watch all there videos and buy there products. I mean come on they never poached a deer so what's the big deal!
@glendonyoder9722 Жыл бұрын
I don't think they did anything malicious
@mikeguy966810 ай бұрын
I’m not accepting or rejecting them. Really, I just don’t enjoy their videos. They’re both narcissistic. However, everyone deserves a second chance after they pay their debt to society.
@waynestevenson9613 Жыл бұрын
The American Constitution doesn't say a single word about hunting regulations. The Constitution does say it's the supreme law of the land, and any any state law, order, act, mandate or decree that violates your rights, automatically has no standing. If we lived in America and not under the U.S corporate title, where you are seen as government property, their would be no issues
@dannydyer9961 Жыл бұрын
The libertarian in me has a boner.
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting the brush fires of freedom in the minds of men - Samuel Adams
@dannydyer9961 Жыл бұрын
Great ending haha. I think the reason this whole thing is such a big deal is because it’s the culmination of years of “buffoonery” and lack of regard for the impact of their actions/videos/publicity stunts on the public image of hunting. I can respect them for the reasons that you stated, and respect the legal justice that has been served, but I have a very hard time respecting them as hunters or “ambassadors” of the hunting community - broken laws or not. Their years of blatant disregard for common hunting ethics and respect for wildlife are what leave a sour taste in my mouth. This case is just the cherry (or cherry shaped turd) on top. But like you said, I hope this legal justice is sufficient and I hope it creates a significant change in their actions.
@jackson__engel Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe people are still talking about this. Just let it go. People still praise Lee Laskosky and Tyler Jordan when they got caught poaching. Let it go and move on
@rrrrr5118 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Perfectly, wonderfully, said. We have faith in the system. They are apart of the hunting community. Hugely. And liked! And they better not do it again. Ever. : )
@africanwidow Жыл бұрын
At first I thought you were bagging on the bowmars but as I listened to the full video I agree with you and you did very well. At first I was against the Bowmars and hated on them but I was wrong as I have learned the whole truth now. I know the legal system and if you poached or broke a law and the state or feds had proof then they will 💯 % prosecute you. They dropped the other charges because there was no proof and the Bowmars would have won in court. All in all list all the good things the Bowmars have done and make a list of the bad then you will have your answer. We all deserve to be forgiven and not judged first.
@ben-jaminmorrese605 Жыл бұрын
Their morals overall don’t align with the hunting/conservation community. They knowingly broke the law in the name of creating content, which at the end of the day is profitable. We are already under intense scrutiny as hunters by other hunters and non-hunters alike. Him, his wife and Chris Brackett are birds of a feather. Brackett is no longer relevant and rightfully so! I believe it’s time for the Bowmars to get cancelled in the same way. But I also think they will end up remaining in the hunting & content creating community more so than Brackett, because they sell a lot of different products like you touched on. I haven’t checked to see if they have publicly apologized or not. Did they? And if they did was it actually heartfelt? Your opinion about the Bowmars, although I don’t agree with them, are argued concisely.
@Cody_Austin Жыл бұрын
In all fairness he didn’t poach or get charged with poaching. He got charged and plead guilty to conspiracy of knowing it was going on. There’s a massive difference. Bracket had video evidence of him poaching, there’s a massive difference and bracket and bowmar shouldn’t be in the same sentence
@HuntFishShootChannel Жыл бұрын
@Hunt Fish Shoot what about the claims of hunting baited sights, when he knew it was illegal, and Sarah shooting a turkey from the road, and shooting a turkey without a tag? I think no one, but them knows, or can say one way or the other.
@WolfinWolvesClothing713 Жыл бұрын
I met Chris Brackett at the NWTF banquet in Nashville a few years back and he was one of the most smug bastards I've ever had the displeasure of meeting.
@pisswhistle5306 Жыл бұрын
Josh lost me when he literally said he invented a bottle that had already been around for several decades. My wife had one to do her nails with in the bathroom the day he released the Bowmar Bottle. That was just blatantly dishonest.
@chadsimpson2438 Жыл бұрын
Lol and people buy it from him
@greekmaster1001 Жыл бұрын
They did they same thing with nose buttons. I got served a cease and desist for making my own and selling in my website.
@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@ApexPredatorOutdoors yes but your copy was almost same as Josh's
@greekmaster1001 Жыл бұрын
@Elgreco Eg You honestly think Josh has the ability to invent or make anything? He literally took a leaf blower to a fire in order to put it out… anyone with half a brain knows more wind creates a stronger fire. Not to mention he burned down their neighbor's cabin and is being sued for currently
@phillipthewise7758 Жыл бұрын
@@phillipthewise7758I heard the cabin was a different fire he started
@d500mag2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts and point of view. Josh is from Ohio, at one point a friend of mine jeff bigler was his camera man, Africa and a few big game hunts. He branched off right abt the time Josh and his wife moved to Iowa. I’ve met him once at the Ohio big buck convention, very arrogant, he’s very knowledgeable and skilled but came off a bit to over the top for me. I personally think the do to much reaching for content. If they came back after all this and just focused on being real and not all abt the trophy’s, kills and intense content I think it would benefit them. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts sir.
@quintinkale1242 Жыл бұрын
Love your view, just wondered how many times they broke the law and didn't get caught. So for me they are done.
@jamesdecicco9137 Жыл бұрын
Yet, they’re still around….When they turned off the comments for Kifaru, you knew it was on! They Bowmars are too stupid for their own good…SMH
@g-man22283 ай бұрын
His huntr Podcast episode was pretty epic. Dude spends a lot of time prepping for white tails.
@brandonmcdonald61213 ай бұрын
A lot to like about Bomar...more to dislike though. I would need to see a huge change and an acceptance of guilt and apologies. Also at least some time of idk not getting in trouble with the law or burning your truck to the ground lol.
@HuntsT10 ай бұрын
Josh Bowmar literally has 80X more subscribers than you do. (you 20.3k him 1.6mil) I see what you're doing. lmao
@zacharypage31355 ай бұрын
Here is my only issue with Josh and that situation. If you pay money to go shoot big deer why would you shoot a 120” buck or even a 150” when you have an opportunity to shoot a 200” deer? I don’t understand that, my brain says he shot those to Cover His A**. But I don’t know Josh and don’t really care either way and honestly my opinion doesn’t matter. But this is just something that doesn’t make sense.
@brandonpatterson5705 Жыл бұрын
6-figure fine. They paid more than most for illegal bait. My question is did they waste game? That is the only thing i would hold a grudge for. And you know that fool is taking every scrap of protein he can get in his mouth.
@bryanheimann53705 ай бұрын
The entire reason people have jumped on this is because they consistently lied and made claims they were innocent...when they weren't. They were only sorry because they finally got caught, the "hunting community" doesn't need them or anyone who puts content and products over regulations/laws. They aren't good for the industry, when individuals with large followings or spotlight gain attention all hunters are viewed this way by some parts of society. I say let the Bowmars sit in the hole they dug and let's not waste anymore time or attention on them.
@lawsonhuntsSWVA Жыл бұрын
Josh seems like a good guy but he is also a narcissist. We definitely need people like the Bomars within the hunting community - ultimately, they represent the few "fighters" we have. In Wisconsin, there are a ton of men who rail at the crossbow's inclusion into the archery season, yet they sat on their couch while the fight was occurring. Additionally, baiting is illegal in the county I live in, yet people in my neighborhood put out bait. The DNR allows a ton of illegal activity to occur unfettered, like stands left on public land or considers sketchy activity like shining to be perfectly legal - do I have to turn in my neighbors because they are too "busy" to investigate? Thank you for allowing comments on your channel.
@h-minus2212 Жыл бұрын
The court documents are pretty black and white. They poached… but I would forgive them if they just admitted it and moved on. Aaron did a decent job of asking the questions. But Josh didn’t answer truthfully.
@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын
What is your definition of poaching and HOW exactly did they poach? Im bipartisan, just curios your opinion.
@codysmith8042 Жыл бұрын
No way in hell I would accept them. As a public hunting figure they made us all look bad and gave fuel to the other side. They need to go away.
@cmullenb9008 Жыл бұрын
If their integrity isn't in question after all of this I'll give you a little more insight to their thought process. Go watch Josh's video when he burned his truck to the ground. Pay close attention to his phone call to Sara, the first thing out of her mouth is not are you ok Josh. It's did you call the insurance company. Yeah I sure did and I told them " hey dude I just burnt my truck to the ground and I got it all on video do you think its covered"? Oh no it wasn't the trucks fault I'm just a jackass and caught it on fire then tried to put it out with a badass leaf blower. Lmao. Do they deserve a second chance, possibly. Do they deserve all the scrutiny they are receiving whole heartily so. Gonna take a little bit to earn that respect back.
@sammyhughes6769 Жыл бұрын
Brandon, you are at the top of your game….
@marklaw6949 Жыл бұрын
What’s his game? And how is he at the top?
@AA-mk4pu Жыл бұрын
Everything he shoots is a world record whether it's here or in another country
@jasonreis1974 Жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with spearing a black bear? That’s literally the roots of what we call hunting today. Not a fan of Josh at all but if you don’t like spear hunting, don’t do it just like the guys who don’t like bow hunting don’t bow hunt. Will never argue that Josh Bowmar is a turd tho!!!
@PSEordieАй бұрын
I’m sure they have done it many times over. This is just the first time they’ve got caught. They have no remorse. They are in it for the likes and follows. They’d gladly pay a fine of 6 figures to not be labeled a poacher if their livelihood is coming from the hunting community. They’ll make that 6 figures back from the publicity of their lies.
@OkestCyclist Жыл бұрын
I bet you’ll be getting a letter from a lawyer soon.
@cwalter2013 Жыл бұрын
I love the Bowmars for what they bring to the community.. Josh's highlights and long distance archery shots are irrefutable as far as learning what a hunter is capable of.. I hate that they jeopardized their dignity and respect within the law and the hunting community. It only ever takes one of us to make us all look bad.. have they served the recompense? I can't answer that but I can forgive them if it never happens again. Thank you BMac for your take and opinion.
@SoSwiff Жыл бұрын
Serious question: What do they "bring to the community" that's not covered multiple other places by far better people/channels???
@DB.KOOPER Жыл бұрын
@@DB.KOOPER Seriously have you not seen Josh hit a hail Mary on a moving springbok at 100 yards? Before everyone else caught up Josh was getting epic footage of slow motion long distance arrows in flight and landing perfectly placed shots... maybe im a fanboy but not coming from a hunting background when I got into hunting the Bowmars were one of the firsts I was taking notes from.. from arrow building to bow tuning and more.
@SoSwiff Жыл бұрын
@@SoSwiff 🤮🤮
@casanovafrankenstein8875 Жыл бұрын
What the heck is going on? I’m a hunter and I think hunting with a spear is insane. It seems unnecessarily gruesome except maybe in extremely limited circumstances.
@beaubellamy2999 Жыл бұрын
Did everyone forget about Tyler Jordan shooting a buck with a spotlight in a creek ran by dogs with the outfitter? Also Bowmars paid his dues plate is clean.
I live in Alberta and when Josh killed a bear up here with a spear, it was in fact legal. As for the ethics of the bear kill, if you saw the video, the bear went down quick. That’s the way it should be. I’ve heard of far too many numbnuts wounding bears with rifles or bows, and yet they don’t get dumped on like he did. But the media generated by his hunt was so huge that Alberta Conservation “immediately “ changed the law banning spears. Would I do it? Hell no. But I fail to understand why he got dumped on for a legal and ethical kill. I know nothing about his issues in the US, and if they screwed up, well then you pay the penalty…period.
Since kifarucast comments were off, I figure, let ‘em rip here!
A hood civil conversation is always a plus, especially in today’s society. More honest discussion would do the world a lot of good.
This is why I love watching your channel!! Real honest dude!
I don't know about any of that but I'm always excited to see you post a new video. Thanks Brandon.
Agreed.
About the spearing of the black bear, doesn’t Tim wells use a spear to kill a black bear?? If he did it why can’t he?
Great video as always Brandon. I love this take on such a hot issue.
The hunting community may need an integrity check.
A small minority of the hunting community....yes! The vast majority of us are nothing like that idiot.
Mic dropppp
Just wondering if you listened to the Chris Roe and Aron Snyder analysis podcast? They discussed a lot of the same concepts in great depth. Thanks for putting your honest opinion out there! I it isn’t easy these days!
Why is it that every time I watch one of your videos, the opening of “Bulls On Parade” starts playing in the background of my mind 🤔 Love your content, man!
All I can find is a reaction video ep. 455 on KZhead. Can’t seem to find the original podcast anywhere.
Is the podcast still up or was it pulled down because I can’t find it.
Very good perspective and honest assessment. I also appreciate It didn’t take a 3 hr podcast.
Well said. I believe it was less a mistake on their part and more of turning a blind eye which would fit the sentencing they got. Sucks every way you look at it. Hopefully they learn from their choices and everyone can grow and move forward.
Well put.
How is not reporting illegal activity a crime? This was the basis for their conspiracy charge. Insanity!
I wish a link to the podcast was posted as I had no idea about it.
I trust all your reviews in the archery industry , never been disappointed with a product you have shared !!! Thanks for everything you do !!!
Very well thought out opinion, and great video!
For something we all care so much about it's hard not to be sensitive to this, I think most hunters/outdoorsman pride themselves on ethics and honesty.
DNR officers in my state would disagree,they tell me ,they believe 75% of hunters are not ethical or honest. After working in the industry for some years I would have to agree with them. Such a shame .😮🤯😢
@@anthonyforfare7223 that is sad, I had no idea the number was even close to that high !
@@Bowsonthebrain neither did I bothered me immensely to hear that was really the numbers,I guessed 35%. 😮🤔🤯
@@anthonyforfare7223 🤣🧢
Where can I get one of those black camo hats from?
Well said agree 100% love the video. Great job watch both channels.
I don’t often comment on KZhead videos but I wanted to take a minute to give you props for your approach and demeanor with things like this. Definitely a very hot topic in the community and many would let their emotions take control, but I always feel like you do your best to try and have open dialogue and lead with as much neutrality and reason as possible. Well done sir
@@Brandon_Mcdonaldhuh?
Perfectly put, we have all screwed up and payed a price for something in life. They will move forward and only be smarter in the future.
That outro... was gold.
Succinct and to the point. Well said. Especially the closing👊
Good discussion. First off, thank you for a very concise message. I could see other KZheadrs turning this into an hour long discussion. That's fine, but i tend to put long-form video discussions on my "watch later" list and never get to them. When i see a quick hit from you, i know you won't waste my time; it will be beneficial to me and it will delivered in a manner befitting a grown-ass man. Thank you for choosing to share your thoughts on the social mefias.
Thanks for watching it! For some reason I lost some people with this one.
My take on this is the Bowmar's got into a situation that they probably had no idea was getting as big as it was until the shit hit the fan! I would say the plea fit the crime and they being in the industry made it a bigger deal than what it was thus blowing this up and causing all the other BULLSHIT to start flying! Time to move forward, these folks are not bad people, just got caught in a bad situation that they knowingly should have removed themselves from years ago!
What about when he purposefully used his crop burns to get insurance money. The man had 2 fire claims on his insurance in as many days.
Perfect perspective
Well said, appreciate the honesty in your opinion.
@@BrandonMcdonald.. Thanks for the offer, I always feel like it's a scam when I get massages for gift on here. Appreciate the offer, I hope it's not something I really want! Lol, Seems like new archery gear is arriving daily at our household. Cheers
I just don’t wanna get sued. Lmao
The problem I had was how Josh and his legal representative played the card that the Lacey act was the problem. He has never been accountable for his actions. He proclaimed innocence even after accepting a plea, which is an admission of guilt. The other aspect is Josh was in business with the business owner, so he was a little more involved with the outfitter than you presented. If he ever came out and admitted his wrong doing, and apologized for how he represented himself and the community, I’d say all sins forgiven once he satisfies his legal repercussions. That’s the point of being found guilty and paying the price isn’t it, your held accountable and learn from it. But he will never do that, his ego won’t let him.
His ego or the roids.
@@d500mag2 lmao
Bingo!
@@d500mag2 lmao
Very well said! Gave me a different perspective
Very well said and laid out there brotha. I also will not cast a stone at them. Thanks for using your platform to stand for what makes true integrity
Very good video Brandon!
I can’t even find it I’d like to try and suffer through the podcast
I guess I need to watch the podcast.
Never heard of Josh or Snyder or listen to podcast.
Where’s the podcast? Latest one I see is the one they did with Hamskea
Kifarucast
@@jeff_8789 it’s not there. The most recent was the one Aaron did with hamskea
It probably got removed.
The ending was perfect LOL
1 thing that i noticed the whole podcast. Was snyder ask josh over and over about they had to know this stuff was going on. But josh just kept swaying away from that question. Like just say yes we knew but didnt think it was anything to do with us. Cuz we whernt doing anything wrong.
Well sir this is not about today's topic,but I figured you would want to know that someone used your video comment section to say I had won a Hoyt bow last night,but said they needed me to pay shipping with my credit card. I told them no thanks,but that I would notify you that scammers were using your site! As far as the Bowmar scandal,they were not wrong in how they killed that bear in my eyes,but knowingly breaking the law really hurt our community,just added fuel to the fire!
I lost interest in Kifarucast when Aron had Eddie Gallagher on (yes I think Gallagher is a war criminal). Bowmars mean nothing to me and they aren't representative of the hunting community either. Kifarucast turning off the comments is reflective of Arons thin skinned persona, which I don't understand why he cares what others think about him. He's done some good things for the hunting community. But the same thing happened on Rokslide when the Aron and Frank breakup occurred, a thread was locked when an open discussion happened on the board. Either way, let the Bowmars continue their cringe act, and huck their products.
Same here. Aron is a little too thin skinned, ego. He & Dan, from Elkshape,, dissed Troy(RF) & Dr. Ashby. During a podcast. Most of what they said was verifiably wrong. But, Troy corrected him on a podcast.
You don’t get to be that much of a cocky jerk then just automatically get forgiven.
Very thoughtful video on so many levels, I wish more communities of people felt this way...
Excellent !
Meh. Idk. The court system will drive you to exhaustion to take a plea bargain just to be done with the case if they want you bad enough. Plus if they had gone to trial there is a chance things could have gone way worse. I suspect we have all turned a blind eye to someone we know doing something wrong at some time or another. Having said all that, in his position, yea he should have gotten out of Nebraska sooner.
@Brandon_Mcdonald Yess im so excited! What did I win?!
Would have to agree with you. A lot of temptation in the hunting world and I would imagine one would be hard pressed to find a hunt club or outfitter without a member that has crossed the line before (through their own actions), failed to report someone else’s wrong doing, or turned a blind eye. I don’t think being a member of the hunting community automatically means anyone deserves appreciation or respect but as humans always best to forgive and never forget.
Next Aron will platform Muley Freak
I love you brother this takes a hell of a man to put that out there in a way I think you're doing the right thing you're letting them know that you accept them I never did not accept it because I agree 100% with you everybody makes mistakes and everybody deserves Redemption there's no way in hell that any one person judged it right none of us on Earth we have made our own mistakes but 2 have faith in the judicial system that's when you just went nuts LOL you're crazy as hell you have faith in the system I feel like every day there's an innocent proven to be guilty and I think our system shows that very well I love you though like a fat kid loves cake Brandon McDonald great video maybe we'll get other people to actually realize that they are not the judge they're not the jury and they don't hand down the verdict
I’ve never had a better compliment than “I love you like a fat kid loves cake”
I feel at ease that I could give not a single shit about any celebrity hunter. Good, bad or ugly I just don't care who they are or what they do.
Agreed
I'm going to keep watching his videos, I dont agree with everything he does so I just chose to switch the video. Every person I'm subscribed to on KZhead I do the same thing. Hes got some pretty cool hunts, wasn't a fan of the hippo, just because I don't see a hippo as something you'd eat, doesn't look tasty at all lol, but that didn't stop me watching his channel. I love his nose button, help my accuracy and consistency tremendously.
Acceptance of hunting guilt, what about false advertising on their products guilt? Their overreacting to people that disagree with them, and the constant lawsuit distribution, hard to dicifier them as value to the hunting community
As someone who has needed to ask for forgiveness in the past, i agree with you brandon. Even though they might not care i forgive them.
Josh has that intrinsic motivation to come back from this, and I don't think this issue will define Bowmar's success. Josh needs to put on the blinders and move forward with minimal attention to this mistake. On the other hand, he might need to hit the gym again to get back in shape first. "So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander" 1 Peter 2:1.
The fact that they argue/ block accounts and delete comments about them paying, losing huniting rights in a state and pleading guilty to conspiracy is what gets under so many peoples skin. It’s incredibly dishonest and disingenuous. No love lost for them from me, there never was any to begin with. The hunting community doesn’t need another snake in the grass. Justice may have been served in court, but not in the community.
So, I have zero issue with him being in the hunting community. Just like Tim Wells, we need our “extreme” personalities to push the limits on methods available to harvest game. That does not mean that I have to support his brand, businesses, or channel. He has been sentenced his punitive damages for this incident, and he will/has paid his dues. I hold nothing against him. He’s just not my cup of tea for a few reasons. The issue I have with Bowmar has always been his dishonesty. Any comment he gets on his videos that isn’t “way to go” or “wish I was you” gets deleted. I had some comments deleted that were constructive criticism without being overly negative. This provides a dishonest front that everyone agrees with him and his style. The other thing was the suppressed rifle on the mule deer hunt he was charged with. From what I understood, archery hunting or recovering game cannot be done with a firearm in that area. His video showed the guide and him celebrating upon recovery with the guide clearly possessing a suppressed rifle on his shoulder. His own video showed it clearly but he stated he didn’t know the guide had it then stated he didn’t understand it was illegal. I don’t believe the firearm was used at all. Lastly, the baiting. Yes, it was legal in his area and you couldn’t hunt within 200 yards of it. I don’t believe he was illegally baiting. But he admitted to hunting within a few hundred yards, presumably more than 200 but within sight (and his own account of 220 or so) of baitpiles. To me, that’s like a child with his finger a millimeter away from your eyeball saying “I’m not touching you.” Was he illegally hunting over bait? No. But was he hunting immediately outside of the bait in order to harvest animals to and from the bait pile, or to at least draw animals in to his hunting area with bait? Yes. So while true, I believe he was testing the limits of the law and hunting outside its spirit. So, all in all, here is my take. He’s been served his justice. Let the industry and the community decide as a whole how welcome back he is. I don’t mind if he remains in the community, but I stopped watching his channel for the most part before this legal issue came to my attention and I doubt I’ll watch much of his channel now.
You know what though? Josh will kill more awesome deer than you ever will, just from this point forward. And it won’t be with a 1050 grain arrow either.
@@progradepainting3755 😂 I’m sure he will. I don’t have 6 figures of disposable income for hunting, even though I wish I did. Other than tracking my comments from a different Brandon McDonald video to here to make fun of me or antagonize me, was there a point you wanted to make? Or just insult me? I’m glad you have so much free time on your hands. Have a wonderful night. 🙃
@@officerfoxtrot3633 kzhead.info/sun/pciqZct8gmKtbKM/bejne.html&si=w42GgrwYs53ctIuq they need a big tv at your dept. where this is playing 24/7, and all your excuses are posted below. Lol
I will forgive them this time because people makes mistakes as long as they don't repeat it again
I don't have a problem with them at all...he said himself he knew things were going on but didn't participate and that's what he plead out to..I love the nose button..Everyone always puts themselves high and mighty like they wouldn't dare do anything wrong . 180 inch buck walks out 1 min after last shooting light all the ethical hunters are gonna turn to poachers..There is a world of gray not just black and white..If you have 2 beers at a 1 hour dinner and drive home, should you be arrested, dui, have your license suspended. And he didn't want the bucks so what? They were his he don't have to take them, mount them, care about them. And so many people talking about unethical shots...define that...not everyone has the same ethics and skill.. If I am a really good shot at 70 yards and iv smoked 10 deer at 70 but lose 1 its unethical? If your confident in your skill is it unethical? If you don't like him don't watch him..I don't watch all his videos or live my life like he does but he has some good content that I enjoy..
Any shot that is far enough away that an animal can react in time to move (and thus get badly wounded - and you KNOW it is likely to happen) is unethical. Josh's neck shot from 100m+ was a prime example of skill meaning nothing at that range - and for him to try to claim he had a double lung shot on offer was just a straight up lie. The guys ego is so big (to compensate for something - obviously) that he can't handle the tiniest bit of criticism or honesty. He's just a douchebag.
@NPC #4079338 so then really 40 to 45 to you is the start of unethical shots? I mean we are taught to hold low or even under the deer to anticipate the drop. Which means we are taking a shot we know they deer js gonna react...But if they can drop they can also turn and turn into a disaster. But that's just differing opinion and that's fine.. and he is douchy..he does have an ego.. Im just trying to get at he isn't some type of monster lol..Alot of people are making him out like he needs to be hung in the gallows and my opinion is just not that.. But we all have pur opinions...doesn't mean either are right
Steroid charges next? lol
I love you're insight Brandon, but I can't agree here. The Bowmars have been a cancer on the hunting community for years, the bear with a spear situation is just another thing to add to the ever growing list.
lots of people spear bears. Tim Wells has been spearing animals for years and broadcasting it on his KZhead.
Whats the problem with using a spear to hunt with?
You must not follow Tim 😐 he spears like crazy.
What’s the differents between josh bowmar and Tim Wells with spearing a bear
@@jasondukette4155 Irrelevant question and whataboutism is pointless. This was a Josh Bomar and not a Tim Wells video. That said if you want to argue then I will say you can remove the whole spearing a bear situation from his resume and it doesn't really alter how big of a cancer he is to Bowhunting. It's not really the fact he took a bear with a spear, it's how he conducted himself. There's a reason this topic became controversial when similar situations with people not named Bomar get ignored
The guy is a bone head, and bad for hunter / non-hunter relations. He and his wife both regularly take unethical shots and claim to have "smoked em", or made a great shot on the animal when the video shows otherwise. I think the guilty until proven innocent was out the window because of this type of stuff. Pretty Ballsy to go on a podcast like he did though, but still a bad name for hunters regardless. As for justice being served, do you honestly think they'll change anything they do? Or the way they hunt? I don't, does anyone else think they will? Also "90lbs" draw weight....how does he never get a pass through? I'd be curious to see a research video on this. Lol I'm not smart enough to do it myself.
It’s the broadheads that he uses when he was shooting sevr he was getting pass throughs but since the switched to shwacker they probably bc of bigger cut and the way that they open
I’m going to a 90#’er later this year. An APA King Cobra Dg. I’ll probably put videos up sometime of it if your interested.
@@officerfoxtrot3633 definitely, thanks
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Read the charging documents, they knew exactly what was going on there based on their text messages. Also let’s not forget, it isn’t just Josh, Sarah arguably did the worst of it poaching turkeys without a tag. I can’t believe there’s so many people that keep giving them an out when they keep up their trash behavior.
he was found guilty
We have all done something that we regret. Hopefully they learn from this. This is no different than a family member doing something stupid and they change and we accept them back. Learn to forgive
Didn’t this podcast of Bowmar on Kifarucast come out years ago?
They just released a new one about a week ago
It's on KZhead. Kifaru episode 455
Good perspective. I think one of the biggest hang ups for me was how they handled the situation after taking a plea deal. They made multiple posts saying all charges were dropped making it seem as though they did nothing wrong. In reality, they plead guilty to one thing in order to avoid going to trial for other alleged offenses. They could have chosen to be transparent with this information, but rather, it seemed as though they tried to mislead their followers. In addition, while I believe the system works and "justice" was served in this situation, I think we can both agree that just because the plea deal included dropping certain charges does not mean they did not commit those alleged crimes.
Why do you attract so many scammers?? I just called out three on previous comments..... I am waiting for one here.
Amen Brandon! I completely agree with everything you said. It's over so let's move on.
I love the fact you had the balls to do a video on the matter and share your opinion 👊 I'm just bugged that the dude and his wife had near zero remorse on the matter.... I mean guilty by association at the very least and man up to it.
So anyone that says they broke the law is wrong. You can bait in Nebraska. You cannot hunt within 200 yards of the pile of bait. You can shoot deer on bait if you are more than 200 yards away. Also the fines where charged to them three times because there was 3 entities there. I thought that podcast was very enlightening because every article says they poached and was no evidence. Also the bear spearing is sweet. Your condensed material misses some of the points that are made and is made to get clicks. They made a mistake knowing stuff was going on yet never had hard evidence that they broke the law. I’m not trying to talk down to you in your video but I’m just saying that everyone needs to go listen to the podcast because it helps everyone understand the context of everything.
Better check the regs…. Hunter nor animal can be within 200 of baited area. Area considered baited 10 days after removal of said bait. From Nebraskas big game guide book “It is illegal to hunt any big game animals or turkeys within 200 yards of a baited area. An area is be considered baited for 10 days following the complete removal of all bait. The hunter and the animal must be outside of the baited area during the harvest or attempted harvest. A baited area is any location where grains, fruits, vegetables, nuts, hay, minerals (including salt), or any other natural food materials, commercial products containing food materials, or by-products of such materials that may attract big game or turkey. The use of scents alone, normal environmental conditions, standard farming and ranching practices, forest management, wildlife food plantings, orchard management, or similar land management activities do not constitute a baited area.”
I didn't watch the kifarucast because well I just don't care to. If anyone of us is judged on our worst of days we're all screwed. It's not a pardon on what has been done, but like stated in this video justice has been served. Now if the Bowmars don't change their ways and break more laws send them to the fire.
I support the bowmars. Watch all there videos and buy there products. I mean come on they never poached a deer so what's the big deal!
I don't think they did anything malicious
I’m not accepting or rejecting them. Really, I just don’t enjoy their videos. They’re both narcissistic. However, everyone deserves a second chance after they pay their debt to society.
The American Constitution doesn't say a single word about hunting regulations. The Constitution does say it's the supreme law of the land, and any any state law, order, act, mandate or decree that violates your rights, automatically has no standing. If we lived in America and not under the U.S corporate title, where you are seen as government property, their would be no issues
The libertarian in me has a boner.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting the brush fires of freedom in the minds of men - Samuel Adams
Great ending haha. I think the reason this whole thing is such a big deal is because it’s the culmination of years of “buffoonery” and lack of regard for the impact of their actions/videos/publicity stunts on the public image of hunting. I can respect them for the reasons that you stated, and respect the legal justice that has been served, but I have a very hard time respecting them as hunters or “ambassadors” of the hunting community - broken laws or not. Their years of blatant disregard for common hunting ethics and respect for wildlife are what leave a sour taste in my mouth. This case is just the cherry (or cherry shaped turd) on top. But like you said, I hope this legal justice is sufficient and I hope it creates a significant change in their actions.
I can’t believe people are still talking about this. Just let it go. People still praise Lee Laskosky and Tyler Jordan when they got caught poaching. Let it go and move on
Hi. Perfectly, wonderfully, said. We have faith in the system. They are apart of the hunting community. Hugely. And liked! And they better not do it again. Ever. : )
At first I thought you were bagging on the bowmars but as I listened to the full video I agree with you and you did very well. At first I was against the Bowmars and hated on them but I was wrong as I have learned the whole truth now. I know the legal system and if you poached or broke a law and the state or feds had proof then they will 💯 % prosecute you. They dropped the other charges because there was no proof and the Bowmars would have won in court. All in all list all the good things the Bowmars have done and make a list of the bad then you will have your answer. We all deserve to be forgiven and not judged first.
Their morals overall don’t align with the hunting/conservation community. They knowingly broke the law in the name of creating content, which at the end of the day is profitable. We are already under intense scrutiny as hunters by other hunters and non-hunters alike. Him, his wife and Chris Brackett are birds of a feather. Brackett is no longer relevant and rightfully so! I believe it’s time for the Bowmars to get cancelled in the same way. But I also think they will end up remaining in the hunting & content creating community more so than Brackett, because they sell a lot of different products like you touched on. I haven’t checked to see if they have publicly apologized or not. Did they? And if they did was it actually heartfelt? Your opinion about the Bowmars, although I don’t agree with them, are argued concisely.
In all fairness he didn’t poach or get charged with poaching. He got charged and plead guilty to conspiracy of knowing it was going on. There’s a massive difference. Bracket had video evidence of him poaching, there’s a massive difference and bracket and bowmar shouldn’t be in the same sentence
@Hunt Fish Shoot what about the claims of hunting baited sights, when he knew it was illegal, and Sarah shooting a turkey from the road, and shooting a turkey without a tag? I think no one, but them knows, or can say one way or the other.
I met Chris Brackett at the NWTF banquet in Nashville a few years back and he was one of the most smug bastards I've ever had the displeasure of meeting.
Josh lost me when he literally said he invented a bottle that had already been around for several decades. My wife had one to do her nails with in the bathroom the day he released the Bowmar Bottle. That was just blatantly dishonest.
Lol and people buy it from him
They did they same thing with nose buttons. I got served a cease and desist for making my own and selling in my website.
@@ApexPredatorOutdoors yes but your copy was almost same as Josh's
@Elgreco Eg You honestly think Josh has the ability to invent or make anything? He literally took a leaf blower to a fire in order to put it out… anyone with half a brain knows more wind creates a stronger fire. Not to mention he burned down their neighbor's cabin and is being sued for currently
@@phillipthewise7758I heard the cabin was a different fire he started
Thanks for your thoughts and point of view. Josh is from Ohio, at one point a friend of mine jeff bigler was his camera man, Africa and a few big game hunts. He branched off right abt the time Josh and his wife moved to Iowa. I’ve met him once at the Ohio big buck convention, very arrogant, he’s very knowledgeable and skilled but came off a bit to over the top for me. I personally think the do to much reaching for content. If they came back after all this and just focused on being real and not all abt the trophy’s, kills and intense content I think it would benefit them. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts sir.
Love your view, just wondered how many times they broke the law and didn't get caught. So for me they are done.
Yet, they’re still around….When they turned off the comments for Kifaru, you knew it was on! They Bowmars are too stupid for their own good…SMH
His huntr Podcast episode was pretty epic. Dude spends a lot of time prepping for white tails.
A lot to like about Bomar...more to dislike though. I would need to see a huge change and an acceptance of guilt and apologies. Also at least some time of idk not getting in trouble with the law or burning your truck to the ground lol.
Josh Bowmar literally has 80X more subscribers than you do. (you 20.3k him 1.6mil) I see what you're doing. lmao
Here is my only issue with Josh and that situation. If you pay money to go shoot big deer why would you shoot a 120” buck or even a 150” when you have an opportunity to shoot a 200” deer? I don’t understand that, my brain says he shot those to Cover His A**. But I don’t know Josh and don’t really care either way and honestly my opinion doesn’t matter. But this is just something that doesn’t make sense.
6-figure fine. They paid more than most for illegal bait. My question is did they waste game? That is the only thing i would hold a grudge for. And you know that fool is taking every scrap of protein he can get in his mouth.
The entire reason people have jumped on this is because they consistently lied and made claims they were innocent...when they weren't. They were only sorry because they finally got caught, the "hunting community" doesn't need them or anyone who puts content and products over regulations/laws. They aren't good for the industry, when individuals with large followings or spotlight gain attention all hunters are viewed this way by some parts of society. I say let the Bowmars sit in the hole they dug and let's not waste anymore time or attention on them.
Josh seems like a good guy but he is also a narcissist. We definitely need people like the Bomars within the hunting community - ultimately, they represent the few "fighters" we have. In Wisconsin, there are a ton of men who rail at the crossbow's inclusion into the archery season, yet they sat on their couch while the fight was occurring. Additionally, baiting is illegal in the county I live in, yet people in my neighborhood put out bait. The DNR allows a ton of illegal activity to occur unfettered, like stands left on public land or considers sketchy activity like shining to be perfectly legal - do I have to turn in my neighbors because they are too "busy" to investigate? Thank you for allowing comments on your channel.
The court documents are pretty black and white. They poached… but I would forgive them if they just admitted it and moved on. Aaron did a decent job of asking the questions. But Josh didn’t answer truthfully.
What is your definition of poaching and HOW exactly did they poach? Im bipartisan, just curios your opinion.
No way in hell I would accept them. As a public hunting figure they made us all look bad and gave fuel to the other side. They need to go away.
If their integrity isn't in question after all of this I'll give you a little more insight to their thought process. Go watch Josh's video when he burned his truck to the ground. Pay close attention to his phone call to Sara, the first thing out of her mouth is not are you ok Josh. It's did you call the insurance company. Yeah I sure did and I told them " hey dude I just burnt my truck to the ground and I got it all on video do you think its covered"? Oh no it wasn't the trucks fault I'm just a jackass and caught it on fire then tried to put it out with a badass leaf blower. Lmao. Do they deserve a second chance, possibly. Do they deserve all the scrutiny they are receiving whole heartily so. Gonna take a little bit to earn that respect back.
Brandon, you are at the top of your game….
What’s his game? And how is he at the top?
Everything he shoots is a world record whether it's here or in another country
What’s wrong with spearing a black bear? That’s literally the roots of what we call hunting today. Not a fan of Josh at all but if you don’t like spear hunting, don’t do it just like the guys who don’t like bow hunting don’t bow hunt. Will never argue that Josh Bowmar is a turd tho!!!
I’m sure they have done it many times over. This is just the first time they’ve got caught. They have no remorse. They are in it for the likes and follows. They’d gladly pay a fine of 6 figures to not be labeled a poacher if their livelihood is coming from the hunting community. They’ll make that 6 figures back from the publicity of their lies.
I bet you’ll be getting a letter from a lawyer soon.
I love the Bowmars for what they bring to the community.. Josh's highlights and long distance archery shots are irrefutable as far as learning what a hunter is capable of.. I hate that they jeopardized their dignity and respect within the law and the hunting community. It only ever takes one of us to make us all look bad.. have they served the recompense? I can't answer that but I can forgive them if it never happens again. Thank you BMac for your take and opinion.
Serious question: What do they "bring to the community" that's not covered multiple other places by far better people/channels???
@@DB.KOOPER Seriously have you not seen Josh hit a hail Mary on a moving springbok at 100 yards? Before everyone else caught up Josh was getting epic footage of slow motion long distance arrows in flight and landing perfectly placed shots... maybe im a fanboy but not coming from a hunting background when I got into hunting the Bowmars were one of the firsts I was taking notes from.. from arrow building to bow tuning and more.
@@SoSwiff 🤮🤮
What the heck is going on? I’m a hunter and I think hunting with a spear is insane. It seems unnecessarily gruesome except maybe in extremely limited circumstances.
Did everyone forget about Tyler Jordan shooting a buck with a spotlight in a creek ran by dogs with the outfitter? Also Bowmars paid his dues plate is clean.