Apple’s Strange Rhapsody OS on a 1997 ThinkPad

2023 ж. 3 Қар.
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Today we're installing Rhapsody for Intel on the most compatible and powerful possible laptop - the ThinkPad 765L!
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  • having hte keyboard open like the hood of a car is absolutely genius design for ease of maintenance. You can have it open to work on, then turn it on briefly to test it, without having to turn it over and throw in screws.

    @curvingfyre6810@curvingfyre68106 ай бұрын
    • You may like the Framework Laptop 16

      @ckingpro@ckingpro6 ай бұрын
    • @@ckingpro I'm aware of framework, and while I'm not exactly unhappy with the design, I wouldn't say its necessarily where we should be headed. Mostly, cause while it is standardised to itself, it is not an industry standard, and likely never will be, because it clearly relies on repeat buyers of their ecosystem to be profitable. It's not really the same kind of modularity we had with older swappable components like pc cards, express cards, conventional socketed CPUs, and mobile gpu slots.

      @curvingfyre6810@curvingfyre68106 ай бұрын
    • And I thought I had many PCMCIA/PC-CARD ethernet dongles!

      @alexandershendi7428@alexandershendi74286 ай бұрын
    • ​@@curvingfyre6810right to repair is a human right. stop defending big companies.

      @polocatfan@polocatfan6 ай бұрын
    • Wait... what ?

      @TheSliderW@TheSliderW6 ай бұрын
  • I'd like to see the laptop hood come back in modern laptops, would be so nice for getting inside lol

    @Feli_Heli_@Feli_Heli_6 ай бұрын
    • was the Framework laptop of the 90s

      @TheSulross@TheSulross6 ай бұрын
    • Haha - no problem, we just all have to get onboard with carrying 2-3” thick laptops again.

      @nickwallette6201@nickwallette62016 ай бұрын
    • I'd be down for that....for someone like me who likes to tinker with computers, but not an expert in anyway, this just made life so much easier

      @fullautoshotty@fullautoshotty6 ай бұрын
    • Framework 16

      @blastbottles@blastbottles6 ай бұрын
    • Lol! No, it won't happen. Soon laptops will be filled with epoxy, because a repair prevents a replacement (sale)!

      @Iowa599@Iowa5996 ай бұрын
  • This Rhapsody video was suite! A true symphony for the eyes. Thank you for orchestrating it!

    @draygosmith@draygosmith6 ай бұрын
    • I laughed :D

      @jeffcullen6573@jeffcullen65736 ай бұрын
  • I just love the ever-growing crossover between the tech enthusiast community and the car enthusiast community.

    @RemotelyHuman666@RemotelyHuman6666 ай бұрын
  • this channel is always at the bleeding edge of advancing the retro computing state of the art

    @TheSulross@TheSulross6 ай бұрын
  • Gotta love an old IBM thinkpad from the late 90s to early 2000s

    @rmcdudmk212@rmcdudmk2126 ай бұрын
    • I think I get the love for these now!

      @greatquux@greatquux6 ай бұрын
  • Man that laptop is *unhinged* ! Get it because it has a hi-

    @xmlthegreat@xmlthegreat6 ай бұрын
  • It's possible your 3C589 card and PCMCIA slot are fine, the OpenStep/Rhaposody Etherlink III driver works but can't do media detection, so unless you've hard-set some options on the card it won't see the cable. You need to use a DOS setup utility to set the media select in the EEPROM, then it will work. I have a ThinkPad 560E that I run OpenStep4.2 on (It's just like the MacWorld 97 machines!), from which I learned that the hard way. The NetBSD 3c589 driver from 5.1 - the last version that could boot from 2 floppies - can do runtime media selection, but it won't persist through a power cycle. (I think this comment is being eaten by automatic moderation because I put a link to my own findings on this; I've tired to post twice and it keeps not sticking. Trying again without the link.)

    @pappp1428@pappp14286 ай бұрын
  • The thing I miss the most is being able to go into a laptop without having to almost break the thing.

    @baroncalamityplus@baroncalamityplus6 ай бұрын
    • Almost break it? You must have mad spudging skillz.

      @michaelwright2986@michaelwright29864 ай бұрын
  • It's funny how replacing the screen on a thinkpad hasn't changed much after almost 30 years

    @caviar_dreamz@caviar_dreamz6 ай бұрын
  • IBM thinkpads bring back a lot of memories. Great install. Love seeing those NeXT inspired windows! 😊

    @retropuffer2986@retropuffer29866 ай бұрын
    • needs to be a NeXT Linux distro

      @TheSulross@TheSulross6 ай бұрын
  • It’s amazing how laptop screen bezels got larger (by a lot) in the 2000s and then smaller again in the 2010s

    @Jutsch80HD@Jutsch80HD6 ай бұрын
  • So cool! I've got a 760ED buried in storage somewhere... pretty sure I have the external floppy case too! That machine started a life-long ThinkPad obsession. I believe it's on the OpenStep HCL as well. Fun to see some of these "projects" I've been putting off for years come to life on your channel!

    @jeffcullen6573@jeffcullen65736 ай бұрын
  • You missed that the keyboard can also tilt up when you open the screen, there are two levers near the top of the keyboard on either side. Depending on how you put the levers you can disable this, which appears to have been done on this laptop.

    @VorpalGun@VorpalGun6 ай бұрын
  • A user serviceable, modular laptop in 1997... We've abandoned this to make them "lighter and thinner" as if someone need to put a laptop in his pocket.

    @sonic2000gr@sonic2000gr6 ай бұрын
    • To be entirely fair, light laptops are pretty nice. Those late 90s chonkers are too big. But we should have light AND modular AND serviceable laptops, not one or the other. If needed, add *some* width, there's no real need to go ultra thin.

      @elu9780@elu97806 ай бұрын
    • ​@@elu9780 framework! That brand has released and sells some heavily impressive modular laptop systems!!

      @bigbe3tsdrumming@bigbe3tsdrumming6 ай бұрын
    • @@elu9780 Framework wants a talk with you.

      @hydroponicgard@hydroponicgard6 ай бұрын
  • Absolutely love watching your videos every Saturday, and it was so nice to see you again at the VCF Swap Meet! Can't wait to see what "totally normal" computing shenanigans await you in the future!

    @LevelUp_ErikJ@LevelUp_ErikJ6 ай бұрын
  • Next time for the "Quirks and features" reference, I would play the ding dong sound from Doug's little intro as well. hahahahahahahaha Maybe even have the dot bounce LOL.

    @DickDawsonTheShills@DickDawsonTheShills6 ай бұрын
    • “THIIIIS is an IBM Thinkpad 765L!”

      @NielsPaul@NielsPaul6 ай бұрын
    • HAHAHA@@NielsPaul Big news! This actual thinkpad is for sale on...

      @DickDawsonTheShills@DickDawsonTheShills6 ай бұрын
    • Check out “computers and bids”

      @SciFlyGal@SciFlyGal6 ай бұрын
  • "quirks and features" But we gotta know, what's the DougScore of this beautiful ThinkPad?

    @lirodon@lirodon6 ай бұрын
  • I would love this one even before OS X…

    @andresbravo2003@andresbravo20036 ай бұрын
  • i just purchased this laptop so fast on ebay, thanks action retro

    @serenitysuccubus9231@serenitysuccubus92316 ай бұрын
    • Haha nice!

      @ActionRetro@ActionRetro6 ай бұрын
  • IBM were ahead of the game with how modular that laptop is

    @mspeter97@mspeter976 ай бұрын
    • Really love this laptop thanks to that! Apple's PowrerBook G3 "Pismo" copied ThinkPad a bit: you could remove the keyboard so easy with no tools and then get access to RAM, HDD and stuff. Maybe you could take away the keyboard on "Lombard" also. It's not about who's best or first. Just wanted to point out that around those years, the laptops were so nice. Thicker yes, but so nice!

      @cjeelde@cjeelde6 ай бұрын
  • Cats and dogs, living together...

    @jarms40@jarms406 ай бұрын
  • Rhapsody is my 2nd fav old OS next to BeOS

    @derekw6811@derekw68116 ай бұрын
  • About a year ago, I found one of these (or one VERY similar) at a flea market without the power supply. It apparenely came from a local TV station. I pulled the hard drive and looked it over thinking I'd find videos and other TV related things, I didn't. I think It was running windows 95, and was running some type of software that allowed it to work from and store everything on a server.

    @djkraze5018@djkraze50186 ай бұрын
  • MMmmmm, that Platinum window style goodness. So good, I use a Platinum UI visual style on Windows to this day.

    @charlesswansonii9319@charlesswansonii93196 ай бұрын
  • If memory serves correct, for bootable system Floppys there was a generic internal CD-ROM Driver from ATAPPI, and a generic external CD-ROM Driver from IOMEGA. Both can be found on the system CD installation disc for Norton Ghost.

    @penfold7800@penfold78004 ай бұрын
  • I saw a few of those Thinkpads when I worked in a laptop shop. Absolute joy to work on. If one of those was broken, it had flown off the roof of a car or something. They were tanks.

    @coyote_den@coyote_den6 ай бұрын
  • Nice. I installed Openstep 4.2 on my Thinkpad 380D (with working battery) recently, audio works through SoundBlaster Pro compatibility.

    @FlanGaming@FlanGaming6 ай бұрын
  • Very nice video as always. Where did you find the screen?

    @TheChimeraMan@TheChimeraMan6 ай бұрын
  • I've always been a huge fan of the 700 series thinkpad laptops because of that wonderful modular design..they sure don't make em like they used to

    @fullautoshotty@fullautoshotty6 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, it's a shame really. Soldering stuff straight to the board to save a few cents but not pass that savings to the customers and all that. Imagine if laptops still had socketed CPUs plus also got GPUs that could be slotted in. It would truly be magnificent.

      @InfernosReaper@InfernosReaper6 ай бұрын
  • Quirks and features? Doug Demuro has entered the chat

    @RedShift5@RedShift56 ай бұрын
  • The three best laptops of that era were Thinkpads, Sony Vaios, and Powerbooks. I had all three, loved all three.

    @tarik158@tarik1586 ай бұрын
  • I was able to get Rhapsody DR2 running in Virtualbox at some point. Driver support wasn't the best, but it was functional for the most part.

    @the_beefy1986@the_beefy19866 ай бұрын
  • So…since it’s running on an IBM product, and IBM is “Big Blue”….is this “Rhapsody in Blue”? If you used that joke, I haven’t gotten to it in the video yet. 😂

    @sjgrall@sjgrall6 ай бұрын
    • anybody searching "Rhapsody in Blue" would not be disappointed in viewing this video

      @TheSulross@TheSulross6 ай бұрын
    • Rhapsody on Big Blue…

      @sjgrall@sjgrall6 ай бұрын
  • Action Retro loves his new daily driver! 🙂

    @cdl0@cdl06 ай бұрын
  • 1:42 Doug is smiling!

    @hellion9547@hellion95476 ай бұрын
  • perfect form factor

    @gsestream@gsestream6 ай бұрын
  • I like this Gui. In fact, on Linux I've been using Wmaker for years, and still use it sometimes on small computers :))

    @nalinux@nalinux6 ай бұрын
  • i have an hp elitebook that opens similarly. just push the switch to remove the back panel and you have access to all the important parts. i wish more laptops incorporated that sort of design.

    @stinkymoth@stinkymoth5 ай бұрын
  • It's the most un-Apple like Apple laptop - thick, black and easy to open with a multitude of ports on its edges.

    @ncot_tech@ncot_tech6 ай бұрын
  • Sean did you get my email a few weeks ago? Anyways off topic, cool looking video, watching it in a minute!!

    @charliesretrocomputing@charliesretrocomputing6 ай бұрын
  • I had back in the days a ThinkPad 365XD with a similar design, but a bit lower end. I remember the CD drive was a CD-ROM drive. It could only read CD-ROM and not burned CD-R, at all.

    @alexandrecouture2462@alexandrecouture24626 ай бұрын
  • One should be able to hot swap the cd rom and floppy, there is a switch on the lid when open the bios will switch off circuit and resume when you close the lid

    @stevencarlson5422@stevencarlson54226 ай бұрын
  • Listening to a recording of yourself on camera and being totally okay with it is such a flex

    @tropicaljupiter@tropicaljupiter6 ай бұрын
  • Original Title: Building a 1997 Rhapsody Hackintosh

    @Cart1416@Cart14166 ай бұрын
  • Great video. But all I can think of is the picture of Steve Jobs flipping off the IBM sign in New York. Lol…

    @chriswaldrip2739@chriswaldrip27396 ай бұрын
  • Show off live window resizing. I"d like to see it

    @MaxOakland@MaxOakland6 ай бұрын
  • "Quirks and Features" . . . Were you watching some Doug DeMuro earlier? ;) great vid man as usual!

    @bramvandenbroeck5060@bramvandenbroeck50606 ай бұрын
  • Hi Shawn; what electric screwdriver did you use for this and other recent video?

    @schnuder@schnuder6 ай бұрын
  • Wonder how it's run on my Thinkpad 770 from around the same time. Came out in 1997 but does have a single USB port

    @kathrynradonich3982@kathrynradonich39826 ай бұрын
  • I'd love to find one of those era of Thinkpad

    @JohnSmith-xq1pz@JohnSmith-xq1pz6 ай бұрын
  • This is amazing. I had such high hopes for Rhapsody at the time. Was so disappointed that it didn't develop into a real product for PCs. Although, in retrospect, what did I expect it to actually be? 🤷‍♂️

    @AntneeUK@AntneeUK6 ай бұрын
  • I played around with Rhapsody a few years ago out of curiosity. It was interesting to get it running on PC hardware but after that, it was essentially useless as there were no apps for it.

    @ferrellsl@ferrellsl6 ай бұрын
  • Great video. I used your image at Macintosh Garden to put on Virtual PC 5. But trying to change the resolution and it's asking for root password. What is it, or how can I change it? I indend to get a ThinkPad on eBay or maybe a Powermac G3 to run Rhapsody, what has been your best experience (ThinkPad looks like you enjoyed it with the sound recording you made). Thanks,

    @_berskyboy@_berskyboy5 ай бұрын
  • macOS Catalina also was released for off the shelf pcs

    @marcello4258@marcello42586 ай бұрын
  • We had a Rasphody OS computer in my house around that time. I think I was the only one who ever used it. I was just a young kid back then, so there wasn't any novelty that I could appreciate.

    @FunkyDeleriousPriest@FunkyDeleriousPriest6 ай бұрын
  • Don't forget the IrDA receiver on the back! hahah

    @atptourfan@atptourfan6 ай бұрын
  • I want to do this to my thinkpad - where do I get the best ISO for Rhapsody for Intel? Any what was actually on the floppy disks?

    @sandycheeks7865@sandycheeks78656 ай бұрын
  • The add hardware dialog at 11:20 says "NEXTSTEP" instead of Rhapsody :D

    @Daniel15au@Daniel15au6 ай бұрын
  • Laptop hood needs to come back, 100%.

    @Prisoner416@Prisoner4166 ай бұрын
  • Now I want to see if I can get this running on my Thinkpad 385xd...

    @brocka.6479@brocka.64796 ай бұрын
  • So...this is now an IBM ThinkMac? 🤣

    @MSmith-Photography@MSmith-Photography6 ай бұрын
  • I had one of those in the early 2000’s I finished doom 2 on it 😅

    @ebilvampireboy@ebilvampireboy6 ай бұрын
  • Ahh yes... The good ol days...

    @memadmax69@memadmax696 ай бұрын
  • I’m using a ThinkPad T480 running macOS 13.6.1 Ventura.

    @MultimediaLucario@MultimediaLucario6 ай бұрын
  • What did u do with the suse cd?

    @brandenfourie2449@brandenfourie24496 ай бұрын
  • Very cool. This is before Apple's lick-able GUIs.

    @pjsampras7072@pjsampras70726 ай бұрын
  • It's just OpenStep with the Finder slapped on top.

    @TheyRiseBand@TheyRiseBandАй бұрын
  • Absolutely no one: This guy: 👋🤚🖐✋👈👌

    @emala.banana@emala.banana6 ай бұрын
  • 1:43 Action DeMuro Retro 😂

    @Filipcreate@Filipcreate6 ай бұрын
  • Hello will you try install a/ux on mac or just make a video about it please

    @Cyber_Gas@Cyber_Gas6 ай бұрын
    • He made a video a while back about running A/UX on a period accurate machine and even ran a MUD on it

      @TylerFurrison@TylerFurrison6 ай бұрын
    • @@TylerFurrison can you send link pls

      @Cyber_Gas@Cyber_Gas6 ай бұрын
  • Omniweb was slow compared to Netscape navigator back in 1999/2000, I wouldn't hold much hope for it working on modern websites. And I was running this OS on my dev desktop. I noticed there was significant lag in the apps on this laptop which I never had on my desktop machine.

    @daveamies5031@daveamies50315 ай бұрын
  • Nice

    @mahdihassan523@mahdihassan5236 ай бұрын
  • What kind of screw driver is that? I'd love something that small that's powered.

    @SRQmoviemaker@SRQmoviemaker6 ай бұрын
    • I very much want to know too

      @nathant4634@nathant46346 ай бұрын
  • All early ThinkPad's have that design with the flip up keyboard. The designers referred to it as the bento box because they got inspiration from their lunches. So it's not really a quirky but a standard of IBMs of the era. And I think one of the best laptop designs of all time. People give the G3 PowerBook a lot a of credit as being super expandable and easy to work on, it doesn't hold a candle to bento box ThinkPad's. 100% toolless removable of drives, battery, ram and the cmos battery? In 1994? Its one of the easiest laptops to work on from any era.

    @mattwhite7421@mattwhite74216 ай бұрын
    • IBM Thinkpads are true legends!

      @km-xr5im@km-xr5im3 ай бұрын
  • Have you actually found a build of OmniWeb for x86 Rhapsody that works? I haven't been able to find one yet. Please let me know.

    @crashbandicoot4everr@crashbandicoot4everr6 ай бұрын
  • Does macOS really still have Chess? I've never looked for it. Thanks for the heads-up.

    @RWBHere@RWBHere6 ай бұрын
  • shoutout tortex picks

    @UVClay@UVClay6 ай бұрын
  • I’ve ran it on an i810 based system with a small amount of success.

    @RetroReviewYT@RetroReviewYT6 ай бұрын
  • Check the SMD fuses that bring power to the PC Card slots, I guess they are gone.

    @VladoT@VladoT6 ай бұрын
  • Rhapsody is an operating system? Are they the same company that also made an iTunes-like/Spotify-like streaming music platform?

    @blaizejosh@blaizejosh6 ай бұрын
  • ahh a fellow user of Tortex guitar picks, I see!

    @hisham_hm@hisham_hm6 ай бұрын
  • what that "quirks and features" a reference to Doug Demuro?😄

    @goqwertygo@goqwertygo6 ай бұрын
  • Rhapsody DR2 was great. In hindsight,, Apple were wise to release it as Mac OS X Server 1.x for PowerPc machines, with its rather primitive BlueBox environment for classic Macs, and the native API being so alien compared to what went before, that the likes of Adobe threatened to leave the platform (hence Carbon). For the x86 platform it would have been even worse, with only a handful of of programs .

    @danielnesbitt9565@danielnesbitt95656 ай бұрын
  • QUIT IT WITH THE ADS!!!! great video.

    @datboi-ux2yb@datboi-ux2yb4 ай бұрын
  • can you tare off the menues in rhapsody?

    @red_ben3487@red_ben34876 ай бұрын
  • 2:49 Remember when laptops were highly user-serviceable...😢

    @chu-icehugehard1820@chu-icehugehard18206 ай бұрын
  • You could had hot-swapped the floppy drive with the cdrom drive after finishing loading the driver floppy.

    @monchiabbad@monchiabbad4 ай бұрын
  • I have a ThinkPad 760CD, wonder if/how that would run Rhapsody! (EDIT: Looks like it would work, but with no audio.)

    @nticompass@nticompass6 ай бұрын
  • i saw the two screws in the middle and thought that they were googly eyes

    @BarackOBonzo@BarackOBonzo16 күн бұрын
  • Your recorded voice sounded like 90s era Steve Jobs presenting the NeXT..... you should repeat the test but now with a "I think I speak for everybody at NeXT saying it's great to be back. ", which of course would be epic on Rhapsody on an IBM Thinkpad, knowing that IBM broke with Apple just before SJ returned, then sold all their PC businesses to Lenovo and then basically left Apple as a siting duck with PowerPC as they switched all their servers to POWER4. There's was even a mythical ThinkPad with a PowerPC 604e that never got off the ground, and Workplace OS (OS/2 6) which was just Mach (with an H) with an OS/2 front end. Supposedly, they would have created a Mac OS 9 UI if everything worked according to plan. Tip: it didn't.

    @CarlosOsuna1970@CarlosOsuna19706 ай бұрын
  • Does it count as a hackintosh if Rhapsody was made to work on normal PCs anyway?

    @Z64bit@Z64bit6 ай бұрын
  • Another totally pointless obscure OS install on battered hardware. I love it. Thanks for all the late nights that your channel has caused on my bunch of junk ;)

    @scottharvey-davies1607@scottharvey-davies16076 ай бұрын
  • I wish we could open up modern laptops so easily. Hint, hint framework!

    @Sir_Uncle_Ned@Sir_Uncle_Ned6 ай бұрын
  • Why did this get canceled. Did anyone continue it.

    @ryanzmuda3167@ryanzmuda31676 ай бұрын
  • 7:27 You are NOT in 1 bit

    @karmaduq@karmaduq6 ай бұрын
  • "If you get these settings wrong, it may prevent NEXTSTEP from starting up" oops missed that one!

    @toxicfem69@toxicfem696 ай бұрын
  • "Oh yeah, it works great!" [*Screen has the most blurry, fuzzy and out of focus picture you've ever seen*]

    @DankRedditMemes@DankRedditMemes6 ай бұрын
  • pensar que tuve un par de thinkpad, pero de la era xp

    @matiasezequielandreu877@matiasezequielandreu8776 ай бұрын
  • How Bohemian!

    @klocugh12@klocugh126 ай бұрын
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