Japanese Failed To Understand United States Could Never Be Brought To Bargaining Table (Ep.22)

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In this video series, we delve into the gripping narrative of "Battle of Midway" by John Parshall and Anthony Tully. Join us as we explore the intricacies of one of the most significant naval battles in history, offering insights and analysis inspired by their meticulous research and unparalleled expertise. 📘 Get your copy of "Shattered Sword" by John Parshall and Anthony Tully: [www.amazon.com/Shattered-Swor...]
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  • Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Part 22 of battle of midway from Japanese Perspective. Image used in this video depicts Imperial Japanese Naval aircraft carrier Zuihō. Link of the playlist kzhead.info/channel/PLGjbe3ikd0XHzcsNpM8r8Z5NRMk_BaaCe.html Link of Part 1 kzhead.info/sun/lLuohbukhKR7l6s/bejne.html Link of Part 2 kzhead.info/sun/ermAhKiqi2Ong58/bejne.html Link of Part 3 kzhead.info/sun/bNhrlcWLZ5eApmg/bejne.html Link of Part 4 kzhead.info/sun/oKqOdc2im3mDdJs/bejne.html Link of Part 5 kzhead.info/sun/ptOYqdNsfntnh3A/bejne.html Link of Part 6 kzhead.info/sun/jN6hqK17cHxvpGw/bejne.html Link of Part 7 kzhead.info/sun/Z7mAnrivoHmmgnk/bejne.html Link of Part 8 kzhead.info/sun/dJuyqZGKn4mslKc/bejne.html Link of Part 9 kzhead.info/sun/qrNmipRoj2Kva40/bejne.html Link of Part 10 kzhead.info/sun/acyQYKaqrXmjZmg/bejne.html Link of Part 11 kzhead.info/sun/fampiqevq32vg4U/bejne.html Link of Part 12 kzhead.info/sun/pdB7kdaGj359f5E/bejne.html Link of Part 13 kzhead.info/sun/dLqpo7WmjnyLYJs/bejne.html Link of Part 14 kzhead.info/sun/htalmLWEcIJ3pIE/bejne.html Link of Part 15 kzhead.info/sun/aK6PpKpsbZatiXA/bejne.html Link of Part 16 kzhead.info/sun/mdx_nMWRonh5mqM/bejne.html Link of Part 17 kzhead.info/sun/ecmxYbiDjpmEfqc/bejne.html Link of Part 18 kzhead.info/sun/qNNyZqeRoax-YGg/bejne.html Link of Part 19 kzhead.info/sun/aseSfZyriJV_YGw/bejne.html Link of Part 20 kzhead.info/sun/iaeqY51sgouhoIU/bejne.html Link of Part 21 kzhead.info/sun/dbmJhcyyj52hip8/bejne.html

    @WW2Tales@WW2TalesАй бұрын
    • What is the written source that the AI program is reading from ?

      @simonstuddert-kennedy8854@simonstuddert-kennedy8854Ай бұрын
    • Why use the picture of Zuiho, a ship sank during Leyte Gulf Battle and not Hiryu of which pictures are available.

      @johndeboyace7943@johndeboyace7943Ай бұрын
    • @@simonstuddert-kennedy8854 - Doesn't sound like AI... British accent... correct pronounciations...

      @buzzwaldron6195@buzzwaldron6195Ай бұрын
    • 👋

      @Paulftate@PaulftateАй бұрын
    • If the Japanese were bluyed and over co fident in their naval dioctrine based on the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-5 Then they were compkete fools. As the Russian Baltic Fleet was the most incompetent fleet ever to sail the seas. Not long after they left Latvia, the sailors, so new and on edge. Dirsd on 2 British trawlers, and ended up foring on themselves as well. The ran aground as well as many more appalling incidents during the 7 mo voyage. It was hardly a fair fight and basing dioctrine off the "victory" was foolish

      @jameskipp66@jameskipp669 күн бұрын
  • At the 11:00 minute mark, the discussion of quality over quantity was very dismissive of the capabilities of their opponents. Not only was the American forces able to produce excellent equipment but, the military’s ability to produce highly competent leaders and tactically sound NCOs and troops. Americans by nature are aggressive and love combat. I don’t think the Japanese understood the history of the American people. Americans are religious outcasts, social outcasts, and many want to be left alone. Stomp on those traits and the fight is on.

    @sgt.grinch3299@sgt.grinch3299Ай бұрын
    • I think it’s better to say that Americans are aggressive by nature rather than simply casting us as loving combat. That aggression can be easily channeled into avenues of combat. Americans are and were, as you say, social and religious outcasts - we didn’t and we dont mind that; it is a trait of American individualism. The reason people came to America from all over the world was to get the H___ away from the rest of the world and their definition of what we should be in their eyes, make a new country and a new life of our own. That is the heart of our individualism and isolationism: you do your thing, we will do ours. Japan, then, as now, sees the world through a collectivist lens. They misunderstood America’s isolationism and reluctance to enter into the global conflict as collective cowardice. They could not comprehend that the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor would cause what to them was a complete transformation of the American character. It wasn’t. As you said, Japan stomped on those particularly American traits and the Japanese suffered the consequences. The Japanese soul is iron; it will endure until it reaches its absolute breaking point, after which there is only death in battle or suicide. The American soul is steel; it will buckle before it reaches the breaking point and it can rebound. The American psyche can endure shame and learn from it; the Japanese psyche flees from shame in horror and death a preferable refuge.

      @denvan3143@denvan3143Ай бұрын
    • It's the Irish influence. The Irish love a good fight.

      @Conn30Mtenor@Conn30MtenorАй бұрын
    • Even more than the Germans (and the Confederacy in the Civil War, for that matter), the Japanese looked at the U.S. and did not see a nation of warriors. They then concluded that they could prevail because of superior warrior spirit. They were half-correct: Americans are not a nation of warriors. We are a nation of killers, which is much more dangerous.

      @pinverarity@pinverarityАй бұрын
    • The Americans were not spoiling for a fight. They were spoiling for revenge. They got it.

      @thomasbeach905@thomasbeach90525 күн бұрын
    • ​@@Conn30Mtenor Nope, we don't.

      @norwegianzound@norwegianzound13 күн бұрын
  • Japan's carriers were essentially irreplacable. By the end of the war the United States had 101 carriers. Japan never had a chance. They could have kept their carriers all together but eventually they would have been lost, most likely all together as happened at Midway. The USA coming to the bargaining table and making an unfavorable peace with Japan? Absolutely impossible. Also impossible was the ability of the government of the United States to declare war on Japan without an event like Pearl Harbor. Japan had Asia, albeit without the Phillippines, in its palm. All they had to do was leave the United States alone. Put up with the trade restrictions and count their blessings that in North America, very few knew where the Empire of Japan was located on a world map, nor did they care. ..

    @MrDavePed@MrDavePedАй бұрын
    • Even more was the irreplaceable core of the naval aviators. The selection criteria of the IJN in recruiting pilot recruits was ridiculously narrow, which was cultural to a degree. The Japanese aviators in 1942 were the best in the world, but they could not be replaced quickly nor efficiently.

      @Conn30Mtenor@Conn30MtenorАй бұрын
    • @@Conn30Mtenor As I understand it the aviators could have been replaced, or properly trained, as the Americans were doing it. If some of their best pilots had been sacrificed in order to train the rookies but.. they were not willing to assign some of their best pilots to be trainers and of course many of their best were loath to become trainers. Also, they did not develop a better fighter and so similar to the Red Baron's triplane, the Zero started off great but later in the war it became a definite disadvantage to fly them. ..

      @MrDavePed@MrDavePedАй бұрын
    • Losing four flight decks in one morning would be crippling to any navy of the period. To Japan it hastened the inevitable.

      @Conn30Mtenor@Conn30MtenorАй бұрын
    • @@MrDavePed they actually didn't lose that many pilots at Midway, except for Hiryu's group which was pretty much wiped out. Hard to believe, but true (Parshall & Tully, Shattered Sword). Santa Cruz and the Guadalcanal campaign pretty much did wipe them out, though. Attrition.

      @Conn30Mtenor@Conn30MtenorАй бұрын
    • @@MrDavePed the Zero was good, no doubt. But the Japanese, being Japanese had a huge cultural blindspot in fighting an industrial war. They pretty much farted around with aircraft development when they should have been working on a replacement for the Zero. They developed some interesting interceptors late war when the B29's started appearing in numbers but it was way too late, there was a serious shortage of fuel, trained pilots and strategic materials. Many of Japan's leaders thought that they would keep winning simply because they were Japanese.

      @Conn30Mtenor@Conn30MtenorАй бұрын
  • Very good insight into the history and reasons for Japan’s thinking going into WWII. Passed victory means nothing if you assume the next combatant will behave exactly as the last.

    @davidlj53@davidlj53Ай бұрын
    • Past

      @markprange2430@markprange2430Ай бұрын
  • Indeed. Flight deck and mechanic losses are as dire as the loss of pilots.

    @charlesjames1442@charlesjames1442Ай бұрын
    • especially for a country with a low level of industrial skills among the general population, most definitely. Not to mention the egotistical and irresponsible suicide of their most experienced carrier commander, who abandoned his service and nation that had a lot more war to fight.

      @Conn30Mtenor@Conn30MtenorАй бұрын
  • Wow! I am grateful for another episode. Thank you Sir.

    @sgt.grinch3299@sgt.grinch3299Ай бұрын
    • @sgt.grinch3299 Sir our ww2 tales team is forever grateful to you for your love , your generous support, your kind words , your appreciation , your encouragement , may you have a long healthy peaceful life , Our team loves you and have a huge huge respect for you Sir Grinch 💐💐💐

      @WW2Tales@WW2TalesАй бұрын
    • @@WW2Tales Lol, calm down my man.

      @Wings_of_foam@Wings_of_foamАй бұрын
    • @Wings_of_foam Sir we really admire Sir grinch and few other channel subscribers because of the love they show for our content

      @WW2Tales@WW2TalesАй бұрын
  • Excellent series! Even though I’ve read much about Midway, this series has been more informative than anything I’ve read or seen before.

    @ronmartin-dent1190@ronmartin-dent119023 күн бұрын
  • I have read many books about the Battle of Midway and find this reading very insightful from the Japanese point of view. F.Caruso

    @user-dk2hs2rz3s@user-dk2hs2rz3sАй бұрын
    • Do you have a copy of "Shattered Sword"?

      @Conn30Mtenor@Conn30MtenorАй бұрын
  • If you translate the two nations into boxers Japan was a slugger who fought without endurance training. Hoping to deal heavy and strong blows in the first few rounds but was exhausted after. While America was an outboxer who waits till you tire out trying to deal a decisive blow. Then hits you with everything they have when you waiver.

    @arcticfox5769@arcticfox5769Ай бұрын
    • Japan was the slugger with a glass jaw.

      @bobharrison7693@bobharrison7693Ай бұрын
    • I don't think so. Aside from the first months of the war, when the United States was busy losing Wake Island, Guam and the Phillippines, The United States waged numerous long term battles against Japan. First that was to protect the allies we COULD protect (not the Philippines) including Australia. Once the United States was reduced to the hard nubbin of what need to be protected (stage 1) it could go on to an aggressive challenge to Japan with the Doolittle raid and Guadalcanal. So I don't see it as you do, with the United States being primarily a one time slugger. Instead, King and Nimitz used the rapidly expanding resources they were given in long term campaigns to destroy the Japanese military . ("Go the distance.") MacArthur too.

      @SeattlePioneer@SeattlePioneerАй бұрын
    • Thinking tyson vs douglas. In the first 6 round.tyson throw anything he has at douglas.by 7 to 10 rounds he was exhausted.

      @richardque4952@richardque4952Ай бұрын
    • Japan was already totally mobilized for war even before they attacked the USA. Once the USA was fully mobilized, they out boxed, out punched, and out lasted the Japanese military.

      @fernandoamy8278@fernandoamy827827 күн бұрын
  • Not all Japanese commanders were rigid and unyielding in their operational doctrine. This very channel tells of CPT Tameichi Hara, a destroyer captain that changed IJN torpedo doctrine, changed his ships operating procedures when the US began skip bombing their fleets, and was foresighted enough to realize that ending his own life was a waste of all that knowledge gained during the war.

    @MIronLance@MIronLanceАй бұрын
    • Given that Japan waged war against the US, a country 26 times its size with twice the population and virtually unlimited resources and economic potential, everything done by the imperial Japanese forces, how ever well planned and well executed, was by definition a bad idea.

      @denvan3143@denvan314328 күн бұрын
  • Incredibly useful lessons illustrated here.

    @osea5000@osea5000Ай бұрын
    • Glad you think so!

      @WW2Tales@WW2TalesАй бұрын
    • 38:00 William Slim

      @osea5000@osea5000Ай бұрын
    • Are these lessons being observed by the People's Liberation Army Navy? As China increases the number of carriers it operates, how should the United States respond? One method is that Japan is back to building carriers. Perhaps the United States will withdraw carrier forces from patrolling the trouble spots of the world --- such as the Red Sea and horn of Africa, in favor of concentrating it's forces where they can oppose the forces of the PLAN as a united force? That may already be happening, perhaps? That might leave the ocean going traffic of the world exposed to a lot more conflict than it is used to having since the end of WWII. Will the United States Navy be willing to abandon it's doctrine of protecting freedom of the seas in order to confront the PLAN with a united force? SHOULD it be willing to do so? Is "freedom of the seas" protected by the USN merely a luxury of abundant naval power possessed by the United States and it's allies since the end of WWII? A luxury that should be abandoned when confronted by a real threat such as that of the PLAN?

      @SeattlePioneer@SeattlePioneer29 күн бұрын
  • Japan's error in Kido Butai was in not realizing that the first battle was going to be their only chance in bringing the US to its knees. They should have taken Hawaii instead of The Philippines as their first invasion. With the supply chain gone, the Philippines would have fallen easily, later. Even Australia would have been easier to take once Hawaii was gone as the US's cargo ships needed to refuel to reach there.

    @twotone3471@twotone3471Ай бұрын
    • Then, as now Hawaii was dependent on shipping for its sustenance. If Japan had conquered Hawaii, it would’ve taken the burden of supplying the population on itself. That would’ve been a huge undertaking with an enormous supply lines, which would have been horribly vulnerable to US intervention. Hawaii is a long way from Japan.

      @denvan3143@denvan314328 күн бұрын
    • @@denvan3143 1 When did Japan start caring about civilians? Secondly, most of Hawaii was white. We know (Thanks to the Philippines) that most of those would be taken for slaves, or killed, so the amount of supplies needed would be minimal, once the genocide was done. Japan should have invaded with the Pearl Harbor attack, then sailed on to destroy the Panama Canal with that first strike. Station a fleet at the straight of Magellan, and the Pacific as a whole would have been a Japanese lake. But Hindsight is 20/20 isn't it?

      @twotone3471@twotone347128 күн бұрын
  • The video is correct on The Battle of Coral Sea. It was an unnecessary weakening of the Japanese carrier forces. It should have been "all or nothing".

    @philipmiller2618@philipmiller2618Ай бұрын
  • In war, the force with the superior intelligence and reconnaisance is nearly always the victor. As much as America's superior industry, radar and codebreaking were instrumental.

    @MrDavePed@MrDavePedАй бұрын
    • AMEN - JAP NAVAL UNITS WERE DONE BEFORE THEY ENGAGED

      @Macombdji@MacombdjiАй бұрын
    • IJN carrier commanders wouldn't use their aircraft for scouting, preferring to keep them all for strike duties. Yet another example of overemphasis on the attack. You can't attack what you can't see.

      @Conn30Mtenor@Conn30MtenorАй бұрын
  • One could argue that the Japanese won at Pearl Harbor not so much for what the Japanese did but because of what the Americans did not do. The Japanese were bold and the Americans were surprised at this new kind of warfare that had burst on the Pacific. The critical question is can you learn and absorb the lessons and get better. The Americans did and the Japanese didn't.

    @philipmiller2618@philipmiller2618Ай бұрын
    • There is no way Japan could ever win after Pearl Harbor. They just put themselves on an inevitable pathway to ruin. When the Japanese were effectively crushed and the US started to back off future production the US was still building up. What the US could have potentially built if the war went several more years is almost unfathomable. The B-36 was already for production, the Midway class carriers were already being built, jet fighters were already being built, nuclear weapons and on and on. The US was never even significantly threatened in the war and Japaness had little effect on the US ability to keep itself supplied.

      @matthewhuszarik4173@matthewhuszarik4173Ай бұрын
  • Really Interesting

    @1945Memoirs@1945MemoirsАй бұрын
  • 24 years in writing communication annex to operation plans in the Marine Corps. Careful about bandying about the "no plan survives first contact" cliché." In communications and other logistical operations, as well as tactical, operational, and strategic combat arms, failure to detail plan, to include detailed contingency planning, will doom an operation outright before it even gets started. All assumptions must be evaluated at the lowest levels of command and command relationships clearly defined. That being said, don't fall in love with the current plan because planning is continuous. It never stops.

    @markgrissom@markgrissom17 сағат бұрын
  • Yamamoto spent many years in the US both as a student at Harvard and as a military attaché in Washington. As such he gets off easy when blame is assessed for the war in the Pacific as he’s rumored to have said Japan couldn’t win in an extended campaign vs the US. While that is accurate, Yamamoto was the architect of the PH attack. He failed to adequately recognize that Japan couldn’t win any war against the US if they directly attacked US bases. The US would never negotiate a settlement if its bases had been attacked without warning. The surprise attached galvanized US support for the war, the exact opposite effect that Yamamoto and others had predicted.

    @livingadreamlife1428@livingadreamlife1428Ай бұрын
    • Japan knew they couldn't go toe to toe with the US. The hope was that they could take enough of Asia before the US renewed it's strength in the Pacific. Yes, they would have to give up some of the territory they'd taken. But still have more (Eastern China, French Indochina, Korea, and possibly Philippines) then they had started with. The goal was to turn Pacific fighting into a meat grinder and force the US to negotiate. This failed on three points. 1) The US took far less time to build a Pacific fleet capable of going against Japan than expected. 2) America did island hopping and skipped over several. This reduced casualties and allowed them faster advancement towards Japan. Less incentive to negotiate. 3) No negotiations. The American terms of surrender were almost absolute. Japan would get to keep none of their conquered territory. The above is oversimplified, but a general list of Japanese miscalculations.

      @christopherconard2831@christopherconard2831Ай бұрын
    • > Twenty five years later, North Vietnam defeated the American war aim of preserving South Vietnam through just the strategy Japan hoped to use during WWII. And that was after killing not the 2500 dead at Pearl Harbor, but 55,000 American dead during the Vietnam War.

      @SeattlePioneer@SeattlePioneerАй бұрын
    • ​@@SeattlePioneernot even close the same.

      @Dularr@Dularr29 күн бұрын
    • @@Dularr Just denying reality doesn't make it so. Isn't that what you say Japanese military leaders did? The United States military and political leaders figured the United States could not lose in Vietnam just as Japanese military leaders figured they would win. BOTH were wrong.

      @SeattlePioneer@SeattlePioneer29 күн бұрын
    • @@SeattlePioneer not even close. The goal of Japan was to establish an Asian empire similar to the British empire. The goal of the US was to stop the spread of Communism. While it was messy and cost many lives, the US suceeded. After the US withdrew from South Vietnam and the eventual fall of South Vietnam. The Vietnamise abandoned communism, kicked out the Soviets and Red China. Then established just another authoritative regime. A few years later China invaded Vietnam, but withdrew. The US got their goal, the containment of communism.

      @Dularr@Dularr29 күн бұрын
  • Not demeaning the loss of American lives at Pearl, the Japanese did the US a favor by taking out their battleships and forcing the US to rely on and switch to carriers.

    @stischer47@stischer47Ай бұрын
    • Agreed, and of course, it brought all Americans on board. My mother was 13 in 1941, and she remembered her father saying, " we're at war."

      @marckg6950@marckg6950Ай бұрын
    • After the attack, my father tried to enlist, when he told them he worked at Baldwin locomotive making boilers. They told him to go back to work.

      @brianferus9292@brianferus9292Ай бұрын
    • @@brianferus9292 That may have been both well intended AND the correct thing to say, as boilers were and remain a component used on all large ships.

      @gregparrott@gregparrottАй бұрын
    • Even if some of the BBs had survived PH, the only weapon Nimitz realistically had for counter strikes were his CVs. For this, the BBs were too slow. The wiser heads already knew CVs were the answer.

      @bobharrison7693@bobharrison7693Ай бұрын
    • ​@@gregparrottAnd Train's, Moving Supplies.

      @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cgАй бұрын
  • Another author of WW2 noted that the Japanese carrier force, while powerful in the early years of WW2, was just a raiding force. They didn't stay in one place for long. In comparison, the U.S. carrier force, after about mid-1943, did stay in place for longer periods of time. This is a fascinating difference. It may be a factor of better supply lines or larger forces. Comments???

    @philipmiller2618@philipmiller2618Ай бұрын
  • Thank you for the Whole picture

    @joopmar6@joopmar619 күн бұрын
    • Thank you so much sir 🙏

      @WW2Tales@WW2Tales19 күн бұрын
  • Japan gave up on negotiations and opted for war to take what they wanted. Then tried to use the war to get back to the negotiating table which the United States was never going to do. What a waste.

    @alu.minium521@alu.minium521Ай бұрын
  • The Japanese penchant for overly-intricate battle plans may have come partly from the British, upon whom they modeled their naval doctrine. I don't know about the British navy, but Gen. Bradley commented that in Italy, British battle plans were often hopelessly over-complex (in contrast of the Americans, whose battle plans consisted mostly of large arrows pointing north up the Italian peninsula).

    @johndoeboston123@johndoeboston12325 күн бұрын
  • Thanks!

    @2Oldcoots@2Oldcoots18 күн бұрын
    • @2Oldcoots thank you so much sir for your kind support , we are very much grateful to you , kind regards

      @WW2Tales@WW2Tales17 күн бұрын
  • One point that's interesting is that unlike Jutland and Tsushima in the first Sino Japanese War, the Chinese battlefleet had superior large gun battleships, while Japan had superiority in destroyers and torpedo boats. Obviously Japanese had other qualitative factors in their favor, but this was an example of the deadly effects of torpedoes, smaller craft and asymmetric warfare.

    @maemorri@maemorri19 күн бұрын
  • Doing my small part for the algorithm.

    @davidsmith7372@davidsmith7372Ай бұрын
    • @davidsmith7372 Sir david thank you so much

      @WW2Tales@WW2TalesАй бұрын
  • America was founded on the policy of non-negotiated settlement to war. The Continental Congress refused King George's request for settling the war. King George basically pleaded for a settlement. It was refused. General Grant policy of Unconditional Surrenders was accepted and admired by Lincoln and the American public. The Korean War was our first negotiated end. It hasn't gone well for us since then, has it??

    @craigkdillon@craigkdillonАй бұрын
  • The biggest Japanese mistake is not understanding a victory over a collapsing czarist Russia was irrelevant to war with the rapidly ascending and nation which had just proven to be the deciding element in WWI. The second biggest mistake was not recognizing the emergence of naval aircraft on a battlefield involving more than 25% of the earth’s surface.

    @michaelgeraghty3989@michaelgeraghty3989Ай бұрын
    • The US looked at similar circumstances and decided it meant they needed a bigger navy. During the Spanish/American war it went against the failing empire of Spain. This led to relatively easy victories in Cuba and Philippines. Later it was President Roosevelt who oversaw peace negotiations in the Russo/Japanese war. He took these two lessons to justify building the Great White Fleet. Though he didn't get near the navy he wanted, it did mean the US had something more than a glorified coastal patrol when WWI rolled around. Unfortunately the US didn't do much to upgrade after the war compared to the rest of the world and had to start well behind in the late '30s when it was obvious another war was likely.

      @christopherconard2831@christopherconard2831Ай бұрын
    • @@christopherconard2831 Japan, saw that lack of preparation by the US, but we’re surprised when the United States Navy came out of Pearl Harbor with the attitude that they were there to chew gum and kick ass, and they were all out of gum.

      @denvan3143@denvan3143Ай бұрын
    • There was no Japan. The Japanese didn't believe in their own system. They knew it was out of control. They sabotaged themselves. That is why none of their decisions made any sense. The same thing happened in Italy.

      @Arigator2@Arigator25 күн бұрын
    • @@Arigator2 Au contrere. Japan’s Diet is structured like the US Congress or British Parliment, and was established in 1890. It also had a Prime Minister and was thought of as a nation. Theodore Roosevelt won the Nobel Peace Prize for his role in ending the Russo-Japanese War in 1905. Japan was a US, French and British ally in WWI and had a delegation at Versailles, where their allies screwed them over, one of the causes of WWII. As Germany became militarized in the 1930s, Japanan’s militarization began in the 20’s, culminating with Tojo becoming PM in 1941.

      @michaelgeraghty3989@michaelgeraghty39894 күн бұрын
    • @@michaelgeraghty3989 Irrelevant. The Imperial Army and Imperial Navy held all the actual power. They had their own economies and supply chains and made their own decisions. The Imperial Army started the war in China and the Imperial Navy attacked America. The civilian government was just pretend.

      @Arigator2@Arigator24 күн бұрын
  • Japan already felt it was in an existential battle for survival, after the history of the previous centuries, where Europeans dominated trade in East Asia. China was on its knees. Japan had resisted, until Commodore Perry sailed (and steamed) into Tokyo Harbor and forced Japan to trade with the West on the West's terms. Japan was the last man standing in Asia. I don't they kidded themselves about being able to win a sustained war against the USA. Their best, albeit low-probability, hope, was to overwhelm the U.S. Navy, early, and bring the USA to the bargaining table. They knew they couldn't win a total war against the USA, if it lasted very long. The rest - topics such as this video cover - was pretty inevitable. But nobody talks about colonialism in East Asia before the war. Nobody talks about that.

    @harrymills2770@harrymills277021 күн бұрын
  • And yet the Emperor lived and remained a figurehead (without any power of course). The surrender wasn't quite as unconditional as they were expecting.

    @kenmcnutt2@kenmcnutt26 күн бұрын
  • Here for Al Gore’s Rhythm.

    @sgt.grinch3299@sgt.grinch3299Ай бұрын
    • AL Bore !

      @jnstonbely5215@jnstonbely5215Ай бұрын
    • @sgt.grinch3299 Thank you so much Sir Grinch 🙏

      @WW2Tales@WW2TalesАй бұрын
  • The level of training for scouting pilots for the Japanese were poor. If the scout plane were flying above the clouds, they weren't likely to see any ships below them. They would have to get below the clouds in order to see the surface of the water. One of the Japanese scouting planes at Midway made this mistake. Neither side had dedicated scouting divisions with highly trained pilots. A missed opportunity.

    @philipmiller2618@philipmiller2618Ай бұрын
  • It is doubtful that Japen thought they could beat America in a long war before Pearl Harbor. Japen launched their Pearl Harbor attack, presuming that America could be brought to the bargaining table after a few victories. And that would allow them to be free to have their way of aggression in the Pacific. Why they thought this is baffling, as American had no history of going to the bargaining table so easily. Pearl Harbor actually got them the opposite effect they hoped for.

    @stevefox7566@stevefox7566Ай бұрын
  • OK so the narrator is the same person who made the video on Battle of Jutland? I recognized his voice!

    @kyrgyzsanjar@kyrgyzsanjar27 күн бұрын
  • If you're quoting Eliot Cohen I don't hold a lot of weight to the arguments

    @whofookncares2149@whofookncares2149Ай бұрын
  • Another Japanese doctrinal failure is that instead of reassigning carrier pilots to a new ship when the ship was lost or in the yard, they would wait for the ship to be replaced or repaired then retrain an entire new air group instead of giving those pilots to replaces losses on other ships. This lead to an overall decline in effectiveness and carriers being shorthanded when there was the total amount of pilots was available to man the carrier air wings

    @XxAces15xX@XxAces15xX25 күн бұрын
  • Will there be an episode 23?

    @sgt.grinch3299@sgt.grinch3299Ай бұрын
    • @sgt.grinch3299 yes sir and probably 24 and 25th too

      @WW2Tales@WW2TalesАй бұрын
  • Japan thought that through a surprise attack they would achieve a decisive naval battle and they would force America to the negotiating table. They didn’t and they didn’t.

    @denvan3143@denvan3143Ай бұрын
    • I'd say they forced SEVERAL decisive naval battles. But they lost them all.

      @SeattlePioneer@SeattlePioneerАй бұрын
    • @@SeattlePioneer the Japanese didn’t take into account the vital factor that with a decisive naval battle the enemy must also admit defeat. The US didn’t, when Japan was beaten it still didn’t. Each thought the other side was going to play by the book; neither did. So much for Alfred Hassan.

      @denvan3143@denvan314328 күн бұрын
  • Did Japan see what they would do, like to captured enemy soldiers, and incorrectly assume that their enemy would do the same thing?

    @greggweber9967@greggweber9967Ай бұрын
  • This is a good but lengthy analysis of the battle and Japan's Navy and tactics. In my opinion, what started the US slowly going anti-Imp Japan was their utterly barbaric treatment of Chinese civilians. That's 1 huge reason the public swayed; and govt putting it out to the public. This directly impacted commerce, and Japan's steel and oil needs. Had they been humane, the steel/oil would've kept flowing. Pearl Harbor may not have occurred. In my opinion.

    @user-io9ie5cs8j@user-io9ie5cs8jАй бұрын
    • Considering the treatment of the Chinese by Americans during and immediately after the building of the transcontinental railroad the concept seems more than just a little schizophrenic. We finally got rid of the last of them in the 1920s-just in time to feel bad for them and become their allies.

      @robertmongerthe9025@robertmongerthe9025Ай бұрын
    • ​@@robertmongerthe9025 Spare me. The Japanese murdered in every conceivable way over 20 million Chinese civillians just for the hell of ot because the Asian Japanese consider ALL other Asian societies beneath them. Go ask every country that came under the largess of The.Greater Asia Co-prosperity sphere. Hell, most Japanese considered the population of Okinawa, even though.actual Japanese citizens as inferior "little brown monkeys". So much for the Japanese saving Asia from European whitey.

      @stevewhite3424@stevewhite3424Ай бұрын
  • Japan had two major technical weaknesses that alone shorted the war. Their Damage Control was bad at every level, and their aircraft had almost no armor.

    @KasFromMass@KasFromMassАй бұрын
  • Armchair analysis is easy,i In the moment a battleship / naval guns were were the main focus, the airplane was a new addition and it came into its supremacy during this war.

    @richardtardo5170@richardtardo5170Ай бұрын
  • is this going to take a long time ?

    @peterjohnson617@peterjohnson61729 күн бұрын
  • Sub-category of failure to anticipate what the future may bring. Believing that the enemy will do the same thing, perform the same way, and not learn from their previous mistakes cost both American and Japanese forces. In a skirmish, hitting your opponent with a new weapon or strategy can make one the winner. In a prolonged fight, the opponent may adjust their approach, or develop a counter weapon, that negates your initial advantage. The ease with which Japan overwhelmed US forces at the beginning of the war led them to believe that Americans were soft, weak, and devoid of fighting spirit. In truth, the Japanese surprise attacks caught the US fielding a primarily peacetime military. In relatively short order US aviators developed better tactics and got better equipment, US soldiers were trained and prepped to fight, and the Navy learned the hard way which of their commanders knew how to maneuver their ships and fight. There are numerous accounts of Japanese officers commenting on how surprised they were at how hard the Americans fought. Add in the intellect and capability of US industry to furnish replacements for ships and planes lost, upgraded planes, ordinance, landing craft, RADAR, and all of the necessary gear. Credit too, the logistics effort to get everything where it needed to go. The US in general reacted to problems and came up with solutions more quickly than did Japan.

    @stevengabalis4986@stevengabalis4986Ай бұрын
  • 14:47 "more fleetingly" all learning in the navy is fleeting. Not as grounded as army experience😅😅😅

    @drkrbrown@drkrbrownАй бұрын
  • It never mattered what strategy was used by the Japanese, the war could never have been won by the Japanese. Americas ability to train pilots and build ships would have led to the Japanese defeat regardless. The U.S. resolve would not accept defeat at any cost.

    @jonathanfreeman4607@jonathanfreeman460716 күн бұрын
  • Most of the time, the synthetic voice that is generating what we hear works well. Sometimes it seems to be at 3rd grade level. Kind of a work in progress I guess

    @kevinh2955@kevinh2955Ай бұрын
    • Much better than I have heard elsewhere. It pronounces most word properly. So much so I didn't identity it as artificial.

      @matthewhuszarik4173@matthewhuszarik4173Ай бұрын
  • The war in the pacific was determined on December 7th 1941, the day Japan sealed its fate. It didn't matter if they took Hawaii and California.

    @j.dragon651@j.dragon65123 күн бұрын
  • Who's writing is this? Because they argue against their propositions all the time. This is a theory quite definitely in search of minimal ways in which they are supported.

    @michaelcoe9824@michaelcoe9824Ай бұрын
    • An inordinate amount of Monday quarterbacking on a tactical level; and some insane speculation on a strategic level that never accounts for the human frailties of any commander in the mix.

      @michaelcoe9824@michaelcoe9824Ай бұрын
  • You forgot to include the attack on Australia!

    @Paul-zf8ob@Paul-zf8obАй бұрын
    • I never heard of an attack on Australia, can you tell me about it? You got me curious!

      @blockmasterscott@blockmasterscottАй бұрын
    • I knew Japan had plans to attack Australia, but I'm unfamiliar with it. What was that attack called?

      @gregparrott@gregparrottАй бұрын
    • ​@@gregparrott Darwin raid.

      @roberteugene7295@roberteugene7295Ай бұрын
    • The kido butai attacked Darwin and sank lots of ships and decimated the area! I also remember they dropped some soldiers in Australia but picked them back up in another action! They didn’t really have the capability of taking Australia!

      @Paul-zf8ob@Paul-zf8obАй бұрын
    • @@roberteugene7295 Thanks for the info.

      @gregparrott@gregparrottАй бұрын
  • Too many interuptions!

    @haroldhahn7044@haroldhahn7044Ай бұрын
  • It wasn't that the US Navy was so much better, nor was it the fault of any Japanese individual or dogma. Japan lost because it was morally lacking.

    @TogetherinParis@TogetherinParisАй бұрын
  • The tinny nasal voice of the narrator makes these series unlistenable!

    @paulbirch8576@paulbirch857625 күн бұрын
  • When you are so arrogant you fail in your ability to adapt and spend more time on trying to save face when you should be learning from your mistakes your going to get your ass kicked.

    @RaiderCBR6.5@RaiderCBR6.5Ай бұрын
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