How To Make The Most Efficient Copper Coil Alcohol Burner
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PLEASE NOTE: Just an update, use car exhaust paste instead of silicone to seal the pipes to the lid, silicone finally melts after long durations of use. I have had no issues with car exhaust paste
It's too late now, I've burnt the shed down ..
@@choomanfoo Why would you do something so silly
@@simplifygardening I tried to warm the garden up.
@@choomanfoo Are you the one who also burnt down that lady's tea shed on T.V. ?
@@larrywhalen596 I heard it was an insurance job. She hired a bunch of pyrotechnic experts from Mayhill, Swansea.
I'm in my 60's and you would not believe how many times I kinked a good pcs of copper pipe trying to bend it over the years, I learn something new today, lol, thank you.
That is awesome!
This is one of the BEST "hacks" I've EVER SEEN!! (Something that's INGENIOUSLY practical, AND useful for basic "survival"!!)
Thanks, A quick tip I learned after long use. Instead of silicone to seal the pipe to the lid use car exhaust paste instead this will go hard and is heat proof
@@simplifygardening AWESOME!! (Thx a million!👍)
Great video, thank you!! Suggestion: instead of using silicone to seal the copper pipes in place, use super glue and baking soda - super glue first, then baking soda until done. It sets up instantly, hard as steel, and is easy to finish. (Military helicopter technicians use the technique to patch chips in helicopter blades.)
I did add a note in the comments to use car exhaust paste instead
@@simplifygardening Thank you!
Salt from a salt cellar is easier 😉. I make copper pipe lamps, and that's my technique for small bends. Love the heater. 👍🏼👍🏼
I'd like to know more about that
Cellar....👍
@@sadiegirl5312 👍🏻🤫
Great idea
Great
Great idea Tony ! Just curious how long that jar of alcohol lasts burning so efficiently like that.
Wow, so impressed what a brilliant burner.👍
If you cannot plug the vapour hole in the jet coil, all the alcohol will evaporate. I suggest using a new, unaltered lid for storage and store the wicks/jet coil in a small cotton bag. Cotton will let the wicks dry and keep them clean as well. Cheers from Alberta, Canada.
I was just thinking that, it would definitely start absorbing water from the air. easy to switch caps tho.
They actually sell these! the ones I've seen use a cork to plug the little hole.
@@TheUpsetter couldn't you just place a little square of clear tape over the hole until you need it?
@@toshikotanaka3249 I dont think it would work, Merry Christmas .
@@TheUpsetter Merry Christmas to you also. Do you know why it wouldn't work?
What a great idea, good tip filling the piing before bending as well!
Ive only watched 3 of your videos so far and im really impressed
I found using silver bearing solder works great. It cures instantly and its strong as nails.
Thank you lots for sharing and I was able to understand because thankfully you had subtitles. What a great gadget, so good,I am going to try build one.I enjoy watching you because it's all natural surroundings, home from home and using everyday stuff .hope to see lots more of the things you do because it really helps us out a lot.Thank you
Well done!
Another brilliant idea Tony. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Cheers Patrick, glad it was of interest to you :)
Excellent video. Easy to follow and very informative. Many thanks for sharing
brilliant idea with the coil burner nice one
Great job drilling that small hole! Champion!!!!
Hi Tony, Loved the candle and this is even better, keep the great tips coming .. all the best
Glad it was of interest to you Matt. :)
Love the use what you got to hand ...cheers mate great video
great little project.
We are going to give this a try, thanks Tony looks great.
mark use exhaust paste instead of silicone. will last much longer mate
Well Done Tony
Great video. You need to get yourself an "emp" tubing cutter, it has three wheels, two wide ones at the bottom which acts like rollers, and the top wheel is the actual cutting wheel, the device clamps around the tube,tighten the thumb wheel and rotate it while simultaneously tightening the thumb wheel, makes a super clean cut in a snap. I usually dril my gas hole in the copper tubing, then bend the tube around my mandrel, it put the hole directly under the upper radius,kind of an OCD of mine...lol Thanks for sharing!
great work, I like the explanation you made. Thanks
How clever. 😮
just made mine and put it in my 18 x 6 greenhouse. Its awesome thankyou.
very nice device im gonna biuld one for my greenhouse in the Netherlands thanks for the idee!!
Brilliant. Now I need to work on my husband to make it.
What a brilliant idea it's the best I've seen so far and probably would heat up quite an area thank you so much
Check out the pinned post Dan
Super cool Tony! Thanks for sharing, was worth the wait! Here's to warmer weather for all of us anxious gardeners! :-) Nicole
Thanks Nicole, Spend the summer making some ready for the winter 2 of these would keep a large greenhouse frost free easily and maybe 3 would keep it to about 12 even in winter
Just an additional method for people t use or think about :) all info thats all. folks can choose what suits them best
Awesome idea. Going to make this for the coming winter.
Excellent nick, Tip, dont use silicone around the pipe, get exhaust paste instead :)
Great video. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
i noticed that Tony put the coil too high above the lid and sealed with silicone and later it was repositioned lower to the lid. The silicon... I'm not sure but the heat from the flame will transfer down the copper coil and effect the silicon. JB weld would be a far better option.
exactly what happened so i ended up using jb weld
JBW is what I used. JB has never failed me. They have a high temp. and quick set version too!
no you wrong, silicone is higher temp safe
@@japdog9 Best way to determine which has a higher tolerance to heat is to request an MSDS/SAFETY DATA SHEET from the manufacturer rather than rely on what you might have heard.
@@larrywhalen596 do that , request it......then tell me im wrong . 1300c to 1500c is more than enough , its on the package , any person like yourself can read it ...unless there just TROLLING looking for arguements . .... have a nice day😀
fabulous!!!!!!!!! thanks me and my brother are gonna make these this weekend!!!!
They are brilliant to make
Great work, thank you so much. Greetings from italy
Hey Benjamin welcome my friend. always nice to make new friends from italy sorry for the late response had a family funeral yesterday.
That`s a brilliant idea, thanks for sharing .
Glad you found value in the video
Thanks Tony
Nice idea I've got loads of those Kilner jars spare and I have a spare piece of copper piping so I think it's my next project cheers 🍻
Great if you got car body filler use that instead of silicone as it will hold the pipe better but other than that your good. I just didnt have it
Great video, I will be making some for my greenhouse here in Maine!
Thanks Sorry for the late reply. A load of comments said they were responded to even though they were not. I am slowly working through them all.
wow this uses the same principle as my hiking stove! Nice one!
Yes very similar and perfect as it only uses the vapors Are you going to try building it?
UK Here We Grow yeah i reckon i will... however ive had a lot of other stuff to do around the plot as the raised beds arent ready yet for veggies for this season so need to prioritise a little... i have the shopping list prepped to get all req'd materials and ill see how i go
I have a tonne of work to do too, but plenty of time just get the seed in and out when you can :)
this is a hot tip 😉 thanks v much Tony
this is a top video. Thanks for sharing
Glad it was of interest to you, Thanks for commenting
what a stunning idea. i suppose it works on the same basis as a tilly light but a lot cheaper. thanks tony
Yes, exactly
Tilly does burn the fuel though not fumes
The irony is this was 5 yr ago, and that weather could be last week. 🤣 i love these there full of useful info pall.
Hi Tony. Just found your channel. What are the advantages for polytunnel heat of the 100 hr candle vs the copper coil alcohol burner? I imagine it would be really easy to put a large #10 tin can around either one to become something hot that would them radiate the heat out into the polytunnel. Which one do you prefer for this application? Thanks
A great idea!
Cheers Alan, Glad it was of interest to you
Amazing tony
Thanks Gaynor, If you make one switch out the silicone for exhaust paste. the silicone didnt last long enough but exhaust paste good to 1000 degrees
Great idea thanks for sharing
You are so welcome!
Awesome! Thanks so much!
Our pleasure!
Amazing!
Simple but brilliant. Great work!
thanks
Fantastic idea m8
Awesome! Thanks!
No problem g;ad you enjoyed it
The copper bending with the sand is brilliant ...
Or.... one could use copper coil.
Wow thanks
Thank you.😊
You're welcome 😊
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shame I didn't see this before tonight! frost due in 6 hours. my man will be shown this tomorrow, maybe I will have one by tomorrow night! you're so clever.
Pam Holloway they dont take long to make pam. if you click the bell icon on one of our videos you will get a notification each time we put a new video up.
great job. Thx
Thanks glad it was of interest to you :)
thanks!
Tony, having looked at your alcohol stove video again, it’s a great little heater, have you thought of using Methylated Spirit as the fuel and would it work? Just a thought. Great videos on gardening, you learn something every day. Bas
No i havent tried any other fuel. Im not sure it was produce enough and constant stream of fumes to remain ignighted
Tony thanks for this video. This season we used candles but this looks so much easier. Love watching your videos.
Glad it was helpful! If you decide to make one, instead of silicone to seal the pipe, use exhaust paste it will last much longer
@@simplifygardening thank you I will do
A great little heater, just remember the column of heat rising off the top and don't let the top of your tunnel get too close to the flame. You might need a shield, or to dig a shallow hole to lower the burner enough (ask me how I know, lol).
How do you know?
Not a woman job. Who can build one and sell it to me.
@@lynnboutwell3420 women can make this. What on earth?
It would be cool to see this in action. And I don't think everyone has the tools/toolset to build this. Great ideas all around though. ☺️
Excellent work. I'd have put silicon from the inside side too, to keep the coil more secure.
Good idea! But I found the heat build up melts it. Ive changed to using exhaust paste now and this works brilliantly
This is cool mate
Works perfect in the tunnel. also check out the 100 hr candle video mate
This is brilliant! I think it would be possible to use a sealed stainless steel food jar for added safety:)
Yes, definitely
🙂 Very interesting 👍
I think I would use 2 jars - for safe storage. Take the second jar lid and cut a hole large enough so that you can epoxy it upside down over the lid with the tubing. Then when you want to store the burner, just screw the other jar into the lid you epoxied on. While this makes it twice as tall to store, it protects the soft copper coil from damage.
Yes Ron, that could be a great way to support it.
In most stores that sell camping stoves the offer a tiny funnel that is small enough to add fuel to a lantern . . . Usually yellow or orange in color
Hi Tony, watched this on Friday, built one on Saturday, got the alcohol today, it's burning sweet in my greenhouse tonight, cracking idea mate, thanks. Have you ever done a video on building a heater from a gas bottle ?
its on my to do list :) glad its working for you :)
Thanks mate, it is,
It's perfect for a greenhouse because its a co2 generator as well
Are you still using this little alcohol heater/co2 generator?
I used thinner copper tubing and did the same with questionable results! Instead of doing the tight wrap I did a rather loose wrap over distance as some other video showed , then all you do is push horizontally to get the loops together. However as he will tell you a bit later in the video you need to put a tiny hole in the tube and as we all know tiny drills are not long drills so before making a tight loop of copper tubing get a vertical hole in the pipe. My questionable result was from drilling a hole after getting the loops tight. That directed the flame away from the tubing thus defeating the vaporization process.
That was amazing I'm curious how long will it burn before you have to fill the jar??
Fantastic
Thank you so much 😀
I could see an alcohol burner such as this used to heat the convection water pipe attached an Ofuro!!!--Japanese Bath Tub!!!😁👍🏻
could it be placed in the T duct of a old butane heater fan duct ect to spread the heat better?
Open the two upper parts and a hole on the sides. BLESSINGS THANK YOU.
Glad u enjoyef
Impressed! How long would that jar last tho. Thank you for sharing
on evaporation this jar would last quite a few weeks
Lone Wolf till you drop it. Lol
great job tony. Do you think one could be made that holds a lot more fuel in a metal box, something like an old ammo box with a sealed lid and have multiple burner heads? I need more heat and was thinking of putting the burner in an insulated burning chamber, having a coil of copper inside and slowly pump water through it so heating the water which goes into a water tank then this is pumped through underfloor heating tubes layed under my raised beds and greenhouse for winter growing. what do you think?
Yes that would prob work it just needs to be gas tight to make the pressure and only allow it to escape through the copper tube
UK Here We Grow thanks Tony will give it a go. cheers mate.
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Yeah its a brill bit of kit, Dont use the silcone though use a pipe cement to hold the pipe :) learn from my mistakes lol
@@simplifygardening 😁 Hahah, YES OK 👌🏼 WILL DO SIR. ( KNUCKLE👊🏽BUMP ) UK/Tony.....
Hi Tony! Excellent idea. I've been wondering how to heat my greenhouse to keep my seedlings safe. I have a small greenhouse, about 25x16. How many of these would I need in that size space? Is one or two enough?
Only one of these would do it. but use exhaust gas paste instead of silicone to seal the tubes
@@simplifygardening Thank you
Hi, nice video! Where do you get the wicks from? What are they called? Thanks!!
Nice video thanks for the demo but if you watch Copper Annealing - 3 Steps video you will see how soft the copper pipe can be for bending and you can do this before you fill with sand and bend plus if you drill your hole first and use that as your centre point you can get it in the middle Thanks Bob in the UK
Verry good
😀
Tony I know this is an older video but it's that time we need it. How much fuel does that jar hold and how long would it last on a continuous burn?
Around a pint and half I guess maybe. I ran it for nearly a week continuous and it still had just under half left
Great video, I just subscribed, and am planning to make one of these myself. Just curious, that looks to be a one liter jar so I'm assuming approximately 750ml of alcohol, what is the burn time?
use exhaust paste instead of silicone to seal the pipe sorry about the late reply, YT didnt notify me of a load of comments
These in the tiny (as in short) mason jars work great in the 14 inch SPARK Potbelly Stoves but you will want 4mm or 6mm tubing
Fricken love this idea!
Dave just an update mate. Don't use the silicone it doesnt last long enough. If you make one get some exhaust sealant paste and use that to seal the pipe to the lid.
Hello, I’m new to this site of Tony, I really like this video, can I ask Tony about the glass jar. There are lots of big jars, ones used for mince meat, gherkins etc, these have seals in the lid so would these jars work or do we really need the same jar used on this project? Really good presentation,.
Any jar would work as its not under pressure and does not get hot
@@simplifygardening i might be wrong but i beg to differ,,the coil transfers lot of heat back down into the fuel where it vaporizes and pressure builds in the jar and this also helps push the fuel up the wick ,,i think the jar will have some pressure but so long as its venting through the hole it should be safe enough,but the jar lids should have a rubber seal,some do some dont
Perhaps you could place the burner inside a large clay flower pot. That may help distribute some extra radiant heat. Maybe with a clay saucer on top if you could drill out a large hole to vent the flame? Also, You could try using a two-part kneadable plumber's epoxy or J.B Weld to seal the copper? (after heat testing of course.) Great project. Since this burns cleanly, it might also be used for an emergency heat source in a power failure. Update: Oops just read you did use the J B Weld.
A fantastic way to use them just be mindful it doesnt crack as these put out much more heat than candles
@@simplifygardening, Yes may crack unless the hole is big enough...and the pot dense enough to resist the high heat. Going to try making a couple of these before next winter. Always looking for low cost ways to heat my 10' x 32'greenhouse. I'm experimenting with a solar "heat sync" pod attached on the south side. I'm using a 12 volt fan to pull heat inside the greenhouse to heat up black water barrels during the day. Theoretically, the barrels will radiate heat back out during the night. A couple of these jar heaters my be just the thing to help supplement the "heat sync".
I've seen the same idea with candle heaters. I was just thinking that a section of clay stovepipe would be perfect. Tall like a couple feet much thicker and very heat tolerant. The terracotta pipe sections come in square or round. Deffinately just updated my idea on how to do it.
Thanks Tony that's a brilliant way of heating the greenhouse. How long does the alcohol last?
That jar burnt for over a week
Wow! 24 hours a day for a whole week? That is definitely impressive!!!
An excellent project Tony and I shall definately be building a few of these 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 A few questions for you 😀.... What would you say is the smallest efficient drilled burn hole you could use? (I can go down to about 0.010") Any advantage of having more coils and use a larger jar? Do you need to tape over the burn hole when not in use to prevent evaporation? Compared to the 100 hr candle, does this give out more heat? Sorry for all of the questions......Many thanks of this one.................Cheers mate....
Hi, mate yes this will give out a shit load more heat than the candle. No need to tape over the hole when not in use as the evaporation only works when heated. I wouldn't use more than one coil per jar and if you have the car filler putty use that instead of silicone as it will hold the coil better. make sure your drill hole is straight I had to straighten mine as the flame wasn't riding right initially but easy to do and works brill now. The flame must turn that blue colour or you won't get a clean burn. a small drill hole is preferable otherwise it will produce too much gas and blow out your flame, but not too small that the flame can't be supported. glad you liked the video and hope this lot helps :)
I've used bootlaces cotton is best ...easier to get up the hole. I have used parachute cord (Nylon) didn't wick very well. It might have something to resist solvents since it is genuine US surplus.
Wow, what an amazing little eco heater. Great for power cuts too, ant ideas on how to. Make a sadety surround to house it in, i would worry this could start a fire if knocked over by a mouse or cat or something? Also how long would that lamp fuel last for?
A tin box would work
He said in reply to another comment that he burned it continuously for a week and only about half jar of fuel was consumed.
Sorry I'm a bit late to the party ( just found your site😉) I'd like to know if there is a way to add an attachment that could make this into a cooking device. That would make it useful for heating the greenhouse or cooking when the power is out.
Cathy, Probably not an attachment but I guess you could use something like a bunsen burner stand that would fit over it?
Oh and its much better late than NEVER :) Thanks for joining and hope you stick around
Thanks for video. I do have a question tho, won't the copper heat up to where it melts the caulk or whatever that was that you used to seal the tubing to lid?
Yes it will Kathleen that is why I added a note in the comments to change that and use car exhaust paste which is made for heat to seal the pipe instead
Could this be used as an emergency heater in case power goes out? If so how much space can a burner like that heat up to, saya small room to around 69 degrees? Anybody know? Also how long can a bottle like that burn for being filled up one time?
Use your vice while sawing the coil off, or use a tubing cutter which will do it much better than a hacksaw
Thanks
Glad you found value in the video
can you use 10mm micro bore pipe instead? or is it too small? I was thinking it would be easier to bend into shape/work with?
No it will work
i built one and it does not go like yours can I use any other fuel like heAT? and heat silicone to me seems better than jb weld