Good range, but it’s expensive! (Peugeot 3008 plug-in hybrid 2022 review)
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We test the new 2022 Peugeot 3008 GT Sport plug-in hybrid to see if it’s worth your cash.
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The Peugeot 3008 is one of our favourite SUVs, as a petrol or diesel - but is the expensive hybrid option worthwhile? Priced at $79,990 before on-road costs, the 3008 GT Sport PHEV is much more expensive than a RAV4 Hybrid, but it is cheaper than the Lexus NX 450h+. So, does this PHEV make sense?
In today’s episode of Chasing Cars, journalist John Law conducts an independent test of the 2022 Peugeot 3008 hybrid.
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I drove the 3008 when it was released and I was impressed. I remember the poor performance of the RAV4 in the swerve test recently and the Peugeot would kill it. Peugeots have always had great handling and even though they are a small player in Australia, they are one of the best sellers in Europe. Australians should raise their horizons! Price of this model is quite daunting though and will probably only appeal to Peugeotphiles.
A very underrated brand in my opinion..I recently hired a 3008 Allure for 800 ks. I found it fantastic to drive and with the latest Peugeot innovation, I felt completely at home. I think the 3008 Phev would be a perfect combination ....
In a lot of ways the low-end 3008s are the most charming
Great review! So so so good to get practical economy figures i.e after the short electric range has been used. For me, still too impractical for charging and just misses. Thanks again and keep up the great reviews.
Thanks for review
The thing often not reviewed or shown in ads is the boot space with both rear seats down. Otherwise a very helpful video - thanks!
Great review John, I took delivery of a 3008 Blue Diesel GT 3 weeks ago, and so far it is fuel efficient (which will improve once run in), refined with a nice ride, great quality, and EU 6 emissions compliant.
Like the diesel!
What about resale value? Any promises from peugeot ?
I just purchased the diesel (ex demo - 10,000kms) for $42,000 - great deal - it had a couple of scratches but that didn't worry me. I wouldn't pay $80,000 for the hybrid. The Peugeot diesel engine is a tried and true engine - absolutely reliable - plenty of power.@@Luceq
I live in Greece, and here the road landscape is a little weird, on one hand half the country lives in Athens and it is kinda crowded with short narrow roads, and on the other hand most of the country side is mountains with very twisty roads. So a car that can handle very well in the corners, is relatively short for the cargo/passenger space it offers, is tall, and has a small turning circle, is really what most of us need. Add to that great performance and great fuel economy, especially in the city, and we have a winner. I agree that it is expensive (though with the price of fuel here and the taxes eventually you are going to recoup that cost difference....), but really i would buy this over any german/korean/japanese rival in a heartbeat. It is a great package.
May as well pony up the extra cash for an NX450h
At $10K more you would have to consider the Lexus.
@@chasingcars Don't forget you also get access to Lexus Encore Platinum which gets you an installed wallbox home charger
True. And lots of other benefits.
No reviewer ever seems to reference it. Too expensive to compete with affordable korean brands but not expensive enough to compare with premium Germans..
Not really. The NX450h has worse acceleration and top speed, far worse turning circle, and is much bigger and heavier than this, plus its sunroof is smaller and not panoramic if that interests you. Not to mention that with the battery empty, the NX450h has far less power since its petrol engine is only 185 ps at 6000rpm, no turbo. So less efficient and less powerful. Lots of drawbacks actually.
Is the 308 hybrid wagon coming here?
Nice review thanks John. A couple of questions: You mentioned the performance with all 3 motors working - on a PHEV, when the tiny battery runs out of power, I assume only the ICE engine is working, and it's just lugging that 400kg of additional dead weight around, is that right? If so that punchy acceleration is only available for the first 50km of your drive from Sydney to Melbourne, and thereafter you have reduced performance, reduced fuel economy and reduced capability with no spare tyre... So this car would be best for people who commute about an hour a day? Cheers
Not quite. Because to get that level of acceleration and power it’s using all engines together at the same time. The 50km is pure electric only driving which wouldn’t use the petrol engine so it wouldn’t be as quick. When the car works as a hybrid with both electric and petrol together it goes much much further. It’s actually smarter to drive a plug in hybrid as a hybrid and not just in ev mode because it will go further.
Thanks for another great review, John. The 3008 is an attractive car inside and out and it seems to drive really nicely. For me, it’s too expensive and I’d find the recharging requirement annoying. I like the car but wouldn’t buy one at that price.
Thanks, Stephen. The turbo petrol or diesel options would be a better fit for most.
@@chasingcars You are correct. I just purchased a 2022 3008GT (ex Demo). Mine was fully optioned except it had 18" wheels not the 19" (a bit strange!). The new car price was about S65-67,000. I got mine for $42,000 cash no trade. I specifically looked for the 2.0L diesel because it is a proven engine over time (It's actually about 15 years old - and has only had minor modifications). It has plenty of power. I just don't think Australia is set up for the electric revolution, although that may come in time. BTW a great review - very balanced. My only complaint (and you can now tell my age) is that there is no CD player. Nothing beats a good six stacker. I know I'm a dinosaur.
Got mine two weeks ago in UK 300 gt GT Premium top of the range, gutted no electric headed seats as standard £700 extra. leather black £1700 red leather £2000
Wow ..John mentioned Android Auto for once! 😉
Also what will the Mazda CX60 PHEV be priced at?
Hard to say. $70-$90K?
Peugeot make very nice cars I must admit , and all owners I have spoken too have nothing but good things to say. BUT why so expensive! I would consider buying 508 , or maybe the new 308 wagon.. do you know when that will arrive in Australia?
Just bought a brand new factory order one of these in the UK with £9k off the list price ....makes it worthwhile if you shop around for a good deal .
Do they actually sell many Peugeot in Australia? Very rarely see any??
They actually sold over 1000 3008s last year. Not a massive number but not nothing.
Maybe at 10 or 15k less worth a look by at 80k they are just taking the piss do Peugeot actually want to sell any cars?
The turbo petrol and diesel would be a better, and cheaper, buy for most
Is there an official wading height for this vehicle? Thanks.
Don’t believe so but we will check
No!!!! ..i'll watch your whole video later John ;) Hey I am a Peugeot owner! I have 3!
I think that massive centre bin is for wine bottles, is it not?
Got a @lure model in UK not hybrid. Great car and better than any German motors interior
So this is where Haval stole their grille from?
Probably the other way round
MG hs phev is only $48k da with a full ev range of 63km. unfortunately not a lot of review by aussie reviewers
You can’t say the sound system provided by the Focal speakers are just “decent”. There’s 0 objectivity in this review.
I'd be amazed if they sold 10 countrywide at 80k.
It’s ambitious given how good the much cheaper petrol and diesel models are
Crazy price
Here in New Zealand they are $96000 so stop complaining 😄
At 80 K i rather lexus NX450 hybrid
I’ve never understood why you should need two power sources to fuel one car. It’s complexity, weight and too much of a price hike for little in the way of benefits. A modern diesel, or mild hybrid diesel makes far more sense. A survey conducted in the UK of 2000 plug-in hybrid vehicle drivers found nearly 90% of them just run the cars on their petrol engines alone, never recharging the batteries, most likely because they only have the car for tax benefits and can’t be bothered to recharge the car as well as putting fuel in it.
Owners using PHEV vehicles incorrectly, doesn't mean they are not worth it. If you are exploiting its benefits properly, it can actually be vastly better than any other type of car. Depends on where you live, where you need to go, if you can charge at home and/or your destinations. Diesels can be expensive to buy and service/repair relative to petrol, and they only make sense if you travel long distances (to clean them) often because otherwise they often need expensive repairs due to bacteria in the tank and filters. And even the best diesel is not more economical than a PHEV that is charged frequently. Plus a PHEV can also have great performance, like this 3008 with its 5.9 0-62mph time....
@@user-bs1wx1tb7e Diesel engines are far cheaper to maintain than petrol engines over the long term. Just normal servicing. The 2.0L diesel is the best engine ever put into a Peugeot. Absolutely reliable. My 2012 308 diesel (165,000kms) was just run in - never had a problem. And that's why I purchased a 3008GT with the diesel engine - it is proven over time. Now, I only travel 15,000 per year (less during COVID) - still no trouble with the motor. Every so often you just rev it out in manual mode through 1st, 2nd, 3rd, gear. and service it correctly with European specialist mechanic.
For this kind of money I’d rather buy a Lexus NX450
Love the French aesthetic, but there's too many shortcomings here. No spare, charges like a USB 1.0 device, price is higher than Cheech and Chong. Will be interested to see the pricing of the 308 wagon later in the year, but the 1.2 ICE may be budgetarily more accessible than the hybrid.
Do not buy the 1.2 engine. - buy the 1.6 or the 2.oL diesel (only available up to 2022 - no diesels after that)
80k.......um....nope. Good luck selling these in any great number. One for the Peugeot diehards only, and even then it's a stretch.
In Europe its a best seller
Just about the exterior design, it got me thinking more of 2008 than a 3008: the mid-cycle refresh makes it look smaller.
True.
Love Peugeots like my 2008 GT but man Peugeot Australia is delusional on their pricing. They think they have brand recognition/respect =/> Audi/VW and refuse to acknowledge their bad reputation as a French car company. There’s a reason the limited Peugeot dealerships always have stock even in a global chip shortage… prices across the range are 10-15K above where they should be.
They don’t deserve a bad reputation as a French car company, but they do appear to think they compete with BMW and Mercedes when they’re a Volkswagen and Mazda competitor.
In Europe they are best sellers. Also they don't have that reputation now... And vw isn't comparable to peugeot, vw is a mainstream brand, peugeot is semi premium to premium
@@chasingcars No vw makes cheaper cars than Peugeot with cheaper interiors, ugly design and outdated tech. Mazda is a semi premium brand like peugeot that makes more and more steps to become an officially premium brand. Their cars for example the 3008 has much better quality than a gla which has creaky plastics or a q3, x1 and a lot better design too.They are the best in their segments, in Europe they are all best sellers and win tons of awards. Don't forget ds too
@papaxristou what they are in Europe is irrelevant as car pricing is completely different for Australian market. Peugeot interiors are very plastic at the base models like all brands including VW. Outdated tech I don't know what you're on about there's a bunch of tech from VW group you can't get in a Peugeot. While Peugeot is aiming to be a semi-premium brand in Australia you can't demand that yet from consumers by pricing your cars so high with the limited reputation it has.
@@jamesking7946 wtf? I am sure you don't like peugeots. Where's the outdated tech? Eveyone talks about how hightech they are and about how good their interiors are. I don't live in Australia so i don't care. Here in Europe they cost the same as their German rivals. My family has plenty of cars including 3008,x1,q3 and gla. So let me know better which car has the best quality and tech. Also vws are awful, many platics in all trims. And outdated interiors. And super unreliable
Peugeot ❤
80k.. fark me.. that's pretty model y territory when it gets here.. and 600 a year to service...
Already in Ioniq 5 and EV6 territory
I love it one of most beautiful suvs. Tiguan looks dated and no elegant at all. It's a lot cheaper also. Also the kia and rav 4 doesn't have nothing in common eith it. They have too many plastics and they look awful
Not worth 80K...Their customer service in AUS is not good as well
Help for 🇺🇦 Ukraine
No thanks. I'll take a RAV4 hybrid please
And pocket $30k
In about a year when they become available :) Speaking of, can you go out and buy 3008 Hybrid right now, or is this also at the mercy of COVID delays?
The 508 fastback phev is worse. Single 81kw motor, to the detuned 1.6 t ice, giving you the same power and torque, but charging an extra $17k 🤷♂️
Like the channel, not really enthused by the use of the work "killer", seems so out of place....
Common parlance.
Used here all the time. Could you please make a comment on the car? (from an English Teacher!!!)
Parts for these are a lot more expensive than Toyota.
This is a luxury car, Toyota isn't
Toyota's are reliable Peugeot's are not.
@@glennstevenson6242 Are not? 🤡🤡. In every reliability survey they do great and they have won 3 reliability surveys.
@@glennstevenson6242 Toyota are ugly, Peugeot are beautiful i know what i would sooner drive
Peugeot and Citroen surely can’t wonder why they are so irrelevant here in Australia. They price their cars above everyone else but don’t have the necessary luxury or brand luxury to warrant the price! Crazy.
Are you stupid? Peugeot is a semi premium brand that making more and more steps to become premium. And its proved by their cars which have great quality even better than most German rivals , tech and the best design in their segments. That's why they sell so much and win tons of awards. Citroen is a mainstream brand and makes quite cheaper cars than Peugeot
How on earth you compare this to a RAV4 ????
Because Peugeot, like Toyota, is a mainstream brand.
@@chasingcarsif so compare it with 5008
I have no idea... I mean this car has a great build quality looks good inside and out...
@@chasingcars peugeot is no longer a mainstream brand... Toyota build quality is still awful but they always come around with a good engine
The 3008 is the vehicle that competes with the RAV4, not the seven-seat 5008.
The price kills it. Petrol and diesel 3008 are already good and this does not offer much more to justify paying 80k. If I had that money there would so many other cars I would be looking over this. Good luck Peugeot but I feel like it’s going to be DOA.
In Europe its a best seller
The worst car I've owned, firstly came with no electric heated seats on gt premium, dealer not interested Anthony motors Aber. glitchy engine 225 hybrid. poor build creaky seats and door trims. Very twitchy at speed now starting with electrical problems, looks good but a terrible car to drive and poor dealer service.
I just purchased a 2022 3008GT. It has electric front seats - both heated and full leather.
Sorry - Electric drivers heats but both heated.
Sorry but peugeot decided to change the spec on 2023 car with no explanation or warning, do your home work.
@@dalescarfe9908 sorry mine is only a 2022 model. The 2023 model in Australia has electric drivers seat and heated fronnt seats. However we only have a limited range of models. Not sure what is standard and what is an option.
80k$ for an hybrid Peugeot?!?!?!?
In Europe this costs 60k and its a best seller
No
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