Jocko Podcast 316: High Stakes Push-Back and Accountability. W/ Stuart Scheller
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0:00:00 - Opening
0:13:32 - Stuart Scheller
3:22:40 - How to stay on THE PATH
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Hackworth confronted and outed military hypocrisy in 1971 and was crucified for it. Scheller confronted and outed military hypocrisy in 2020 and was also crucified for it. I believe Jocko reaching out and giving Scheller a voice honors Hackworth's legacy.
I venture it would be safe to say Hackworth did cross Jocko's mind during his decision to bring Scheller on and had a little influence in the outcome of that decision.
Comparing Hackworth to Mattis was a punch in the stomach. Hackworth is an American military icon and Mattis was hands down the shittiest most ineffective CO I ever had
@@willm.n2178 Really? That's a rare opinion to my understanding. What made him terrible?
@@GunBreaux As a commander, deliberate use of tactics that guaranteed high casualties and prolonged conflict, and then as secdef, deliberate use of misinformation to provoke airstrikes and troop deployments. This includes 2 catastrophic invasions of Fallujah that accomplished nothing. The first was a defeat and rout and the second killed 100 American servicemen in a few days. Insurgents considered it their best success of the war. People forget that Obama hired him before Trump did. Not unlike Trump, Obama also fired him. As Centcom commander Mattis did such a poor job in Afghanistan they didn't even want to wait the few months Mattis had remaining in that billet. He was truly awful, but highly intelligent, which prompts the question: If he's smart, but only loses in war, could it be deliberate? I know he says he quit in protest because Trump wanted to end the afghan war but in reality they were all sick of his bullshit. Mattis was just another shill for the mil-industrial complex. Down on the level of low ranking guys like me, we all can't stand him because he makes jokes about killing people and he's never killed anything in his life. We all know he's a fraud
@@willm.n2178 While I don't think I agree, I can understand where you're coming from. He would not be the first 'booksmart' officer that made tactically poor decisions, which arguably I can see how he fucked up here and there. Are there any books or articles you could point me to where other people criticize him? I'm always open to a new opinion.
I love how fired up Stuart still is. Don't stop the fight, brother. We are still in the great conflict of our time and we need people like you.
Not worth it imo. Retirement, marriage etc. He is loyal. Sacrificed his family for the Marine Corps. Wife was righr., second place is no place for a partner who built a life and bore children.
@@dropshot5948 gvvvvvvvb P.M. v
Fuck yeah brother
Those who complain about Stu cannot fathom the sacrifices made by those on the alter of freedom for the liberties they enjoy in their criticisms.
Stand for something or fall for anything…. Every once in awhile you have to say F@ck political correctness and say your truth on how you feel or lay there and be “sheeple”. He took a stand in a very political environment which now is death since Obama gutted out patriots who took the oath to protect the Constitution against ALL enemies foreign and DOMESTIC!! The Democrats have made their definition of a domestic enemy “WE THE PEOPLE” who vote and go against them…. This is the real difference and the damn Republicans go along to get along…. So stand up in unpopular places and stay true to George Washingtons vision of America… land of the free and home of the brave…. My oath never expires….
LtCol Your a outstanding human being and a STELLAR MARINE!! I’m a 03 Marine Vet and I assure you sir that there IS NOT ONE veteran that I know who disagrees with you or looks down on what you’ve done and are doing. SEMPER FI & STAY DANGEROUS☮️
0311 here and I approve this message.
11B and I support him, but i know a few who dont support him
I too am an 03, bit older, but I agree 100% and this is the kind of Marine that makes me proud to be a Marine!!
@@Jarhead0331 LOVE HEAVY GUNS 💪💥💪👊⚔️ Turns out LtCol Scheller endorsed a friend of mine who is a grassroots Congressional candidate here in Ohio( 9th district aka snake on the lake) He’s salt of the earth kinda guy. USAF vet it’s only off the people if it by WE THE PEOPLE💥👊💪⚔️🙏🇺🇸✝️☮️ Stay frost, salty & READY Leatherneck our Country needs is now more then ever. It’s not my way it’s Yahweh. And GOD LOVES MARINES
0370 here! every Raider I have ever met loves this guy and agrees emphatically. We all are behind him and are glad that some more mid/senior officers are like him. Hope more guys with rank would do what he did.
As a 51 yr old Marine Corps Gulf War Vet, every Vet and current active enlisted Marine I know, support Stu Scheller!
That is 💯 correct from what I’ve seen as well. Semper Fi & our Country needs is now more then ever!
You’re wrong, we know he’s a fraud
@@NYRalltheway14 why do say he’s a fraud? In what way is he a fraud? You may not agree with his actions.. but why would you say he’s a fraud?
@@enlightenedpreparingep4006 Every single man in my MSOT and most guys throughout the rest of the Raider Reg that I know love this man. We love professional guys who speak straight facts, no BS, and he is the crowning jewel of the Marines, even if the brass doesn't know it yet.
@@aauwhatitdo1582 he’s days aren’t done I think when shit gets squared away he needs a Star ⭐️ if you haven’t yet check out the clip Jocko just dropped. I shit U not I was/am squaring away my pack when it dropped. Stay hard, sharp & ready brother. Semper Fi 💥👊🏻⚔️🙏🇺🇸✝️
Very glad to see Stuart Scheller on. We still don't have accountability.
We are all gonna be accountable in the end. We need to Bring God to the front of our nation once again.
Less somehow.....
The marines snipers being sent into Irag in 06 from the 24th MEU he spoke of were sent into Ramadi at its height. I didn’t realize it until now, but I deployed with Scheller in 06.
Did you ever get to meet him personally?
@@leftphilange69 I don’t think so. I was in a different company.
Shit that’s cool man. Good on you. Glad you made it back brother.
@@leftphilange69 I was in his unit for a while but in another company. Scheller was 100% in it for the wellbeing of his Marines. He even approached me from time to time just to spark up a friendly conversation, which was not at all common between enlisted and officers. He knew every single Marine in his company, he was thoroughly invested in their wellbeing. Even after leaving the military many of my friends who were in his company stay in touch with him. Even today he will stop everything in a split second and drive cross country to help/support one of his guys. I can name 1 great leader who I had in my company, someone who has supported me long after I left the military. Within his company he was that guy for all his Marines. I share this as I see some Marines trash talking him, thinking that he has some form of ulterior motive based on seeing him on the news and promoting his message. This is absolutely not the man myself and my peers know. He is genuine, intelligent, kind, caring, and will jeopardize anything positive in his own life to support his men. In retrospect I am not surprised that he of all people spoke up, and I know he did it for all the right reasons. I think Jocko does a great job at showing the world who LtCol Scheller is.
It is always wild to realize what a small deployment world this is.
One of the best Jocko Podcasts ever. Stuart Scheller is a modern day Hackworth which is why it is so fitting for Jocko to have him on.
This is, IMO, one of the most impactful episodes for this podcast. The frustration in Stuart Scheller is palpable. There is a lot that this great American warrior has to process but it is also sad to see that we have lost such a solid leader in our Marine Corps Infantry. More like him are definitely needed in the O-5/O-6 ranks.
And so it is so. Know what I see 👀 is the have UNLEASHED a dog of war gave him a more accurate mission set. And like i said now the dog is off the chain. We need more like him in Washington. A Dwight D. Kinda POTUS’ in our future. We need a Convention of the states to fix some problems. Dual citizenship comes to mind. Atmospheric geo engineering is another biggie but I was thinking rampant treason was the best place to start. But idk what do I know I’m just a 🖍 crayon 🖍 eater
Stuart I evacuated Beruit with you in 06, I used the orient Queen cruise ship with 13 other Marines, took 1000 civilians at a shot to Cyprus, did 6 trips. Got the call for that while in Bahrain with a Centcom anti terrorist react platoon. Then Fallujah in late 2006
That’s awesome
Thank you for your service Mark!
Scheller lives by the ethos all military strive to be if more Americans were like him we wouldn't be where we are in this country some of us have morals and principles. True hero. Thanks scheller
It was disappointing other officers didn’t have the balls to stand up..hopefully now as he moves forward positive changes can be made. Thanks for standing with him Jocko
It's this simple. Doing the right thing when it's convenient or beneficial for the person is easy. Doing it when it's not convenient and you stand to lose everything is tragically hard. Most people aren't based and rock solid in their beliefs. They espouse certain qualities when they're in the company of others and it's easy to do so but it's just a facade. People like Stuart Scheler are very rare.
@@mediaistheenemy The people who oppose Scheller are liberals, and the point is that liberals have no integrity and bend with whichever way the wind blows; "when it's convenient or beneficial". As long as we allow liberals to run this country, we will continue to have these "How did this happen?" events.
@America First Patriot The truckers did/do!! Mothers & Truckers make the world go round.
@ Tracy Tayag: In reply I’d say get out of the left/ right & Conserv/ Lib paradigm. It’s one of the ways we’re tribalized, and thus divided & controlled. Ironically, “Liberal” is a Latin word that means LIBERTY. And, The Enlightenment inspired framers of The Constitution are considered “Liberals” in political science. Aloha. And Semper Fidelis.
@@andrewcanady6644 👍 Semper Fi
"I always worked out, sometimes I worked out and drinked." The most Marine thing that could be said.
Yut
Hahahah
Yep...Lol Semper Fidelis!
And ate crayons, stole hot sauce from mess deck
Semper Fi Brother. I remember getting trashed and showing up with my circle of hell raisers for our PFT at 0700 after drinking till 0200 just to prove we could still get a 1st class score or hearing the Company Gunny leading PT and telling us we smelled like a brewery lol
The unforgivable sin: demanding accountability from the "leaders."
I know right!
Thank you for having him on Jocko. As a retired Marine it answered a lot of questions about him for me.
Stuart will always be a legend to me. Wish I could do more to support the guy. I'm just a construction worker from a small town.
Accountability is everything.
Integrity.
2 1/2 hrs into the podcast and I suddenly remember Echo's in the room
Marine mindset at its finest: "I swim across the water, get to the shore, I start making rope bridges so guys can shimmy over...We have a soilder going down stream because he let go. On the iComs the Taliban are maneuvering on us. Our last vehicle in the patrol let us know the soilder just went by. We are about to be attacked, this is getting messy real quick." Jocko: This is a little beyond getting messy...this is horrible... "Yeah...and so we got air support denied..."
Why are there so few views on this podcast? Seriously? Anyone associated with DoD needs to listen to this because he is absolutely right about the larger implications of this lack of accountability. He fell on his sword to bring light to this tragedy that has unfolded over the last 20 years. If we don’t learn from this we WILL lose the next big war…
Algorithm man. The shit you should see that is controversial is buried and silenced. That should be extremely apparent after the last two years
@@smallfry0764 Exactly!
@@smallfry0764 yeah that and most people are pods, only out for themselves and could care less what goes on till it effects them
@@Pokey-xp9gn Agreed. I’ve wanted to shout from the rooftops that this world is fucking nuts and whoever is pushing all of the agendas that have attacked and withered the very fabric of our country needs dealt with but; I’ve watched in silence. Absolutely mystified that people can be that dumb and malleable. So, I’m just as bad as the ignorant. Evil prevails when good men do nothing to prevent it.
They are scared. Pure an simple. USMC and DOD will crush any service member who gets on this bandwagon.
As a civie that has never served, this podcast has brought me the humility I needed as an American. My day-to-day problems are nothing in regards to the likes of our service members.
You have the same problems, concerns, worries. No different. We’re all living in our illusions, in the matrix, trying to get out. That’s all that matters. We do it together. That’s the most valuable journey and mission, to ourselves and others. Aloha.
For someone to care enough about this planet and give up something huge deserves to be digitally recorded forever to share. Congrats jkopod 316 well done.
This guy is a leader, a badass, a patriot & he has all my respect. And I give a lot of credit to Jocko for having him on the podcast because as much as I totally respect Jocko and he’s everything that the American warfighter should be (and leader of warfighters), but generally he toes the company line and doesn’t usually have people on that pushes back hard against the commands and the system. He’s pretty much stayed away from those that have gotten into big trouble with the military. So the fact that he has this guy on the podcast has made me respect him that much more. Leaders hold other leaders accountable. Good job by both of these American heroes
War is a racket by General Smedly Butler!
@@richardrichard5319 Yep...The Banana Wars while he was active...an easy way to know that war is a racket: ask yourself who benefits from it. Who benefited from the Banana Wars? Who benefited from Vietnam? Who benefited from Iraq and Afghanistan? Did the American public benefit from any of those wars? Rhetoric...
@@tracytayag3989 Afghanistan satisfied the need for vengeance that was burning in most Americans in that era, but the rest I won't argue with.
Indeed and the poor leadership goes all the way to the top. Commander-In-Chief casually dismisses this awful mess by saying meh...."that was 4 days 5 days ago". Meanwhile 2 and a half years after, we're still obsessing over some excited protesters at the Capitol.
He should be reinstated with full pension and our political leaders and generals should do an Infantry tour to live what they are sending our troops into!!!!
He should save his marriage.
These women are not loyal. Looking to monkey branch at first chance. Walk alone walk in peace.
@@discofishing part of me feels like his wife will come back. At the core of who he is and has become thats who she fell for and im sure still loves. She KNOWS he is an honerable man. Her struggle is how his choices upended many of her life sacrifices, totally understandable. But i feel in short time, before the divorce gets far, she will suddenly see him and this whole picture as one, and fall all over again. Its made him a different kind of honest man. Once she sees that, maybe she already has, she will stand fast at his side in full support of where life takes them from that point on.
@@whiskerbiscuit99 So his wife is a teacher. If she were to witness behavior that was detrimental to the children at her school would she say anything? Or would she shut up to keep her job? Lets say she did speak out and was fired. Would it then be ok for her husband to divorce for putting the family in financial hardship? LTC Stuart is one of the few among us who put it all on the line to speak to the truth. In the end an individual can only depend on themselves and God (if u r a believer).
@@joepuszakowski9052 lmao as if she didn't spend 17 years of her life raising his kids with him constantly out of the picture and then going on to destroy their financial stability. I support this guy full throttle, but come one dude lol
I did 4 tours in iraq in a recon effort. Very kinetic environments. In 2006 I was wounded in muqdadiyah diyala province. It's funny but not really how we promise of families that we will do more during work ups, like paint house textile floors ect. Needless to say I was solid in combat and sucked at home. I also missed the birth of my daughter in 2008 during the surge in baghdad. I can relate to all this stuff, how we experienced the same shit in combat and at home. God bless fellas.
Some Marines should be boxed up and unleashed only for war. Stay frosty Marine our service is not done. 💥👊💪⚔️🙏🇺🇸✝️☮️
I think some of us were just on that deployment loop IE in the 82nd deployed every other year while others were in 20 and never left their first assignment. Oddly the deployment felt more chill till it got real than preparing to deploy. I guess black hawks vs rocket propelled grenades was not something I was originally concerned with until an air assault gone wrong. Even while not deployed missed a ton of weekends doing training exercises and mini missions. I cant imagine maintaining a family during all of it if not married to someone in your unit. Folks are very lucky to have a supportive spouse although the military kind of killed my perception of marriage. I remember saying you could not pay me enough to come back to Afghanistan after the first 15 month tour and next thing you know 8 years of my life😅 Hopefully your injury did not take you out of the game entirely and everything worked out.
Is there a transcript of this podcast. Total respect for Lt Col Stu Scheller!
This is the podcast EVERYONE wanted.
Thank you so much for having Scheller on here! Semper FI Sir! I was with Charlie Co 1/2 in Nasiriyah in March of 2003.
It's very commendable to have him on the podcast! Great job! As an former enlisted soldier, I fully agree with Lt. Col about upper military leadership failing the men and country. It is refreshing to see an officer that's willing to put his butt on the line! I'd follow him...
Thanks for giving LTC Scheller the chance to walk thru his career and what ended it. Major respect after spending my afternoon listening to this entire podcast. Great interaction, pacing, questions, reactions and genuine respect. Outstanding point calling out insurgency doctrine and policy.
Col Scheller is a righteous dude. I can't say the same for his command structure.
I watched the entire podcast, it was very interesting. As a former Marine Corps Officer myself, watching the events unfold in Afghanistan was very upsetting to say the least. Few thoughts in the context of Jocko's books (Extreme Ownership, The Dichotomy of Leadership and Leadership, Strategy & Tactics): 1) I'm glad that in one of his videos he criticized all FOUR administrations for their mistakes over the years. Recency bias can influence us, but the reality is it took 4 administrations to get us to this point. He demanded accountability / ownership from senior leaders - both past and present. 2) Jocko is big on NOT making decisions when you're emotional. LtCol Scheller was very emotional about Afghanistan, and understandably so. But to post those videos when he was emotional was a bad idea. 3) Jocko is also big on NOT digging in. When you dig in, then you cannot maneuver anymore. LtCol Scheller dug in and had no ability to maneuver. 4) LtCol Scheller did not consult any mentors, peers, his CO, and not even his wife about his intent to take on this massive risk. I can't wrap my head around that. His wife stood by him for 17+ years, through all the moves, deployments, long hours, etc. and he didn't even think maybe he should consult her. That was shocking. 5) Very disappointing to hear about how some of his colleagues and Public Affairs treated him (i.e. the one who started texting him posing as a friend, and then bringing screenshots to the trial). That's brutal. 6) LtCol Scheller wound up losing more than he gained. He lost his career. He voluntarily lost his benefits. He lost his marriage. Was it worth all the stress he put himself and his family through?
I like that Jocko is quite capable of giving us a thoughtful and informed critical analysis and does so, demonstrating a level of objectivity without being offensive or intimidated. True leadership.
Jocko has what you don't & never will!
@@matthewjohnson2853 I did not see a sign that said women were not allowed in this man cave and to GET AFTER IT. I share some of Joco's interests and lifestyle, and his podcasts are useful. I will not be mentally constrained by fashion, makeup, and changing diapers. I highly respect Jocko. He has helped a lot of people, and I am not in any competition with him. What would Jocko think of your comments? That's not who he is. OUT.
An honor to have served with you Sir. Enlisted guys always have a negative perception of "new officers". I'm glad you were open and honest, I also knew nothing of the Marines til I joined.
Stuart is a true Marine, a man of honor & integrity.
Thank you Jocko for having this patriot on the podcast. Can’t deny this man’s ability to take Extreme Ownership.
I Got out of the Army in 97 after doing 6.5 years because of an incident that happened there at Ft. Campbell Some soldiers got hurting killed because the Brigade co failed to follow Procedure by calling in EOD when a young Lt. lost a grenade on a live fire range. There is a lot of failure to take responsibility at high levels .
Outstanding individual. Need more of him in congress
48:45 yes… agree. My uncle was also involved in delivering duffel bags full of cash and it never seemed to sit right. Glad he talked about this and how conflicted he felt about it.
It’s easy to Monday morning quarterback the way he handled things, but this was very insightful. I was kind of surprised to see Jocko have him on.
Probably my favorite episode in a long time. Scheller is a hero and I'll forever respect him for drawing his line in the sand at what ever cost. He's an example to all of us to stop being a follower and start leading by example.
My impression before watching is that this guy is a great American. Can't wait to hear what his thoughts are.
I would love to see many other officers speak out and support Scheller. Damn shame there has not been more!
Thank you @Jocko for providing a wider voice for Stuart and allowing people to hear the history. By all accounts from friends and other Marines, He is as solid as it gets. I am sorry it has come to this but I am thankful for how strong he is and how strong he has stood. Support is there for Stu and the community at large wants to help him carry forward because of his bravery and integrity.
It’s an honor to hear this young man tell his story. We are weaker as a nation without him but far more importantly, the young Americans currently serving do so without the training, wisdom, and ultimate protection a man such as this provides. Good leaders are hard to find and expensive to educate. Can’t imagine how the Marines have benefited from throwing this man away.
Mad respect for Stu. Thanks for having him on. America is lucky to have people like him
Stuart is a national hero ! So refreshing to see somebody in a position of leadership, that is willing to speak the truth regardless of the outcome. Principle over personal gain. And good God almighty,, Stuart has paid such a price for his courageous stand.I hope and pray that he continues to speak out. Courageous leadership like this is a rare find in today's world
Lt Col Scheller took a stand for what was right and what was just for the members of the United States military. Furthermore his call to action and accountability were in the best interest of readiness of our Armed Forces.
Not certain I agree with everything he seems to stand for, but the guys got a spine of steel. Seems to be morally sound and mission focussed.
I was a corpsman at the school of infantry and then g 2/4 in the early 90s. Learned to love the Marine Corp and loved being a corpman with the Marines. I find this so disgusting what the Marines allowed to happen to this officer. This is just one more tragic chapter to the whole Afghanistan debacle. Worst of all he lost his marriage.
Awful I can't believe it.. But this man and his struggles should serve as and inspiration to all Of us.. I know he does for me
Loved every second of this podcast. Was great to hear from him and his story. Nothing but respect for that man.
Best interview ever! Scheller's superpower is his honor and his convictions. This is what a man is supposed to be, and this is what a leader is supposed to be. I have seen men who talk-the-talk, and walk-the-walk to a certain extent, but Scheller walks-the-walk all the way. What I mean by this is, most men will talk-the-talk and walk-the-walk right up to the edge of personal cost. When personal cost is on the horizon most men will back down. Scheller has never had it in him to back down. If Scheller had been in General McKenzie's shoes (at about 3:11:30 ) he would have either convinced the National Security Council or he really would have resigned rather than continue with a halfass plan that he knew was ineffective and dangerous. I am making my son listen to this interview with me because I want to talk to him about how important it is to do what's right and to have convictions that you aren't willing to negotiate on. The world needs more Stuart Schellers. Thank you for the interview.
Same. Be not just a man, be a Good Man. It may land you in jail, do it for the right reasons.
As an active duty Air Force air traffic controller, without taking a bullet that I know of Stu Schiller is a hero in my mind
Thank you for having him on. When I saw his post I felt like he was speaking for all of us on the outcome of this disastrous withdrawal!
The infiltration of politics, especially leftist politics, into the military was one of the major reasons I rejected my ROTC scholarship and opportunity to join the Academy with my other JROTC classmates after HS. Now almost a decade later I have zero regrets; you don't need to be part of an increasingly corrupt and subverted chain-of-command to learn the skills they offer in the armed forces.
My teenage son had intentions of joining after ROTC & high school. He’ll be a senior next year & has begun completely change course for the same reasons.
Politics is no reason to not serve your nation… some one has to. Sack up or shut up. Leftist political point of view is trash…. But with that mindset…. Things are worse
@@nathanmiller3987 Worse because of leftists.
@@samneedsanap7802 I wish him the best, biggest piece of advice I could give him is to study abroad and/or learn a second language. Even though I'm in STEM it was one of the best decisions I ever made.
@@nathanmiller3987 It is when such politics lead to a lowering of standards across the board. Wasn't too keen serving under or putting my life in the hands of a 5'0" woman or a CO who's so mentally ill that he thinks he's a woman; however, now it's even worse as even the upper chains of command are acting purely in their own personal political interests. No way I could in good faith "serve my country" when these people are only concerned with pushing their agenda. I'd rather be a citizen serving in a militia than become a pawn for closet marxists.
Lt. Col. Scheller.. THE Definition Of "No Good And Right Deed Will Go UnPunished."
“Idk if this organization cares about me as much as I care about it?” Powerful question. The MC likes to push the propaganda of a band of brothers with tight camaraderie, but no one treats Marines worse than Marines. The military has changed and is extremely hypocritical. These “commanders” and senior leaders who enforce the UCMJ and good order and discipline are guilty of the same crimes that they charge and relieve their Marines of. No one is morally clean in the MC, everyone does shit behind the scenes. Literally it’s an organization of don’t get caught.
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I saw it kill my brother in arms. It kept the shitbags and didn’t promote the warriors. I don’t regret enlisting, but I’m disgusted at its incompetence and hypocrisy.
Totally and completely spot on served 84-88 VMFP-3.
It is the reason why I will not continue service if I leave or are removed from the Raider Regiment. In my experience the Raider Reg is the only unit in the corps that seems to care and fight for me like I do for the unit.
@@aauwhatitdo1582 I know this off topic but I always had this question do people take steroids.
This was a phenomenal interview and I respect LTC Schellers sacrifices. He is a true leader and such people are needed desperately to fix our country in turmoil.
Agree woth him or not. Dude served. And gave alot. Stood up. And owned it
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When you asked Stuart after explaining how you were so rebellious and Stuart never really had a rebellious point, until that moment. The first thing that came to mind was the saying about “when good men do nothing”. Stuart determined to do … something .. If only more people took that step..
Thanks for having Stuart on the podcast! I don't actually get much news coming in to me these days as I just don't care to waste my time with social or main stream media. With the pandemic there is enough going on in each of our own lives. I am willing to pay 3 hours of my time to listen to a real break down of the situation than to pay 10 minutes of my time looking at bullshit on popular media platforms. Not saying you are my news outlet, I just wanted to convey that I value my time and that listening to your interview is something I consider as valuable!
You always seem to have the best guest on your show Jocko. You always cover the real issues that military guys and girls are thinking about. You're the man!
I truly believe we need more Americans whom exemplify the value of accountability in all organizations. Our government and the armed forces can only get better if we/they can be introspective. Like Stuart says, he is a realist and being able to accept where the current situation lines up is a great quality. It hurts peoples feelings, it makes people angry, it bucks the system. But it doesn’t make the issue any less serious or the situation any less serious. In this occurrence people died and on one hand that is what a Armed Forces personnel know could happen. But those actions need accountability and Ownership. Thank you Jocko for keeping that in the lense.
Dude "Falling Down" Michael Duglas lost his job with a Arms manufacturer and wife left him. They portrayed him as a push over . I respect Mr Stuart for standing behind what he believed. I agree with him 100 percent. I do feel like this war we just got out of will present it self again and if we don't change SOP and the tactics we used then history will repeat it self. This was an awesome episode and I'm glad he had the balls to stand behind what he believed.
He actually was an engineer in Falling Down.
@@willyjordan8997 yes for a defence company
Thank you Jocko for having Lt. Col Scheller's six. Extreme Ownership Roger That 👍🏻 Hooyah and Siempre Fi 🙏🏻
I was in ITB Charlie company in January 2009 . I was 0311 in 2D LAR Alpha Company I deployed during the surge in December in Afghanistan, Helmand province . The battle of Marjah I was in , I’m pretty sure we crossed path when I was young marine in ITB .
Jacko OUTSTANDING interview! What a Patriot, should have been a General! This man has the BALLS the size bowling balls! I am so proud of this Patriot it gives me HOPE for our Country. Now people get out and vote, because our future depends on it !
Can't wait to listen to this tonight. Keep it coming
I was wanting for this Man on this podcast. Thanks. Respect from Romania.
Remember kids, the military is a job. Your branch doesn't love you. They only care about you as far as a owner cares for its property. Do your job well, care for those around you, mentor when and if you can. Above all else, don't let a JOB change who you fundamentally are. Give the military what it gives you, nothing more.
Nothing more..
If you join the military without the express goal to get something tangible out of it, then don't even bother. It will chew you up, spit you out, and leave you with absolutely nothing. Save your money, plan for what you do when you get out, and stay in touch with your homies. Seems like common sense, but too many dudes absolutely ignore this advice and become dependent on the structure the military provides which lulls them into a false sense of security. The military isn't your parent and sure as hell isn't your friend.
These two men have done more good for people than the entire swamp. This is the kind of leadership/guidance and representation this nation needs.
Scheller is doing what more people should. We all should hold our leaders accountable. Leaders aren't exempt from their mistakes.
"If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken twisted by knaves to lay a trap for fools"- Rudyard Kipling. This Marine was right in his assessment and i wish him success in his endeavors.
GNARLY. Awesome episode. Props to you Jocko for having him on.
It's one thing to hear about historical events way after everything is said and done... completely different, when history is made in front of your eyes!
Man…thank you for doing this. So thankful you got him.
Glad to see him here!
The leadership today in our military is more about “me” and what I can get or how I can move up I rank; rather than actually leading troops and truly caring about them. Also, just taking accountability and that has to start from the top. That is not happening.
It’s the”I got mine” culture.
@@keithgoodsell711 exactly!
I’ll vote for this dude all day!
Many are called. Few are chosen. I'm very proud of you Mr Scheller. What you did impacted me on a very deep level. Been praying for you ever since. God Bless. Thank you Mr.Jocko and Mr. Charles. Sincerely
This is one of the best podcast shows jock has done
Strength and Honour. Fortune favors the strong.... Level up, own it, get some ... Thank you gentlemen
I’m confident that Stuart’s voice will be remembered by history as the voice of a patriot. And I will tell you my son will not fight for this nation until people with Stuart’s convictions have taken reign of America’s military might. Accountability. Thank you for your service Stuart.
So thankful for podcasts like this to get the side of the story the MSM can't or WON'T show.
SCHELLER FOR 2024...!!!!
That jerk that shared your texts with the command investigation is a spineless tool. Would love to meet him someday
You are an honorable man Stu! The world needs more men like you.
I'm always humbled when I watch/listen to this podcast. Most of us civilians take too much for granted, that needs to stop. I'm grateful for men like this who try to follow what they believe is right even when it's not popular.
Outstanding
I was hoping this podcast would happen. Thank you gentlemen. Respect to you both, two good officers here.
This man is an absolute hero in my book not just by the usual standards of a war fighter, Career military… BUT because he did what no one else was willing to do, I firmly believe history will remember him fondly & we will absolutely refer back 2 his demand 4 accountability as a reminder of not only one of America’s greatest failures BUT also our leaders repeat of history in refusing accountability & sweeping it all under the rug, I’ve never been so ashamed of my country’s choices but this man reminded me that there are still men of character & principles willing to die on there sword
Stay The Course Stu !
When you’re stuck at work and desperately wanting to hear this podcast, but can’t until you’re off 🙃
I am counting the time till I am off, cooking dinner and listening to this podcast
A very important podcast. Excellent conversation.
Thank you to every single STRONG man standing up for rights of others! Mr Schuller thank you for your incredible service including the most important attention you brought to this matter.
The operation that he’s talking about at 1:01:37 I was the EOD team on that operation. That was July 3rd/4th of 2010. That resupply was to FOB Tillman. That shit was absolute chaos. Ran many missions with Sheller! Outstanding Marine!
I think we all need to praise him for what he did right and accept what he did wrong. When I was in the service you could almost always speak up to authority, but you HAD to do it the right way, and if you slipped on that part, you had BETTER DAMNED WELL BE RIGHT ABOUT WHAT YOU’RE SAYING. He went too far off the reservation when it comes to the ‘how’ and it subtracted from what was right about his point. The USMC and senior leadership… they BLEW THIS far more than Scheller did, and that is what really needs to change here. I feel bad for Scheller and his wife. Prayers for them both.
Love Scheller's linkedin experience updated from Oct' 2021-Dec' 2021 - "Transitioning Officer Under a Gag Order" haha good for you man! Love this
Thank you Jocko Willink for bringing the true stories of these true American heros to the public. God bless you, God bless all first responders, God bless our Great Military and all out Veterans amen 🙏
So glad Jocko had Scheller on 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲