Elvis (2022) vs Priscilla (2023) - The Battle of the Biopics
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time stamps:
00:00 - intro
03:32 - a quick elvis and priscilla history lesson
06:44 - the premise
11:56 - the acting
20:56 - the music
25:56 - the contents
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When I walked out of Priscilla, my first thought was "I LOVE that they didn't use any of Elvis's music. It was a brilliant artistic choice that really kept the focus on her instead of him." When I found out it was because they were not allowed to use his music, it made me laugh because the Elvis estate basically, imo, made a decision that ironically improved the movie.
fully agree, & i love that they used dolly's i will always love you for priscilla finally getting out because elvis wanted to record it and dolly didn't let him so it was like finally something he hadn't touched
I read Priscilla's book and according to her, she didn't even see him perform live until much after they met. And he usually kept her home while he was on tour or making movies.
Totally, it added to the feeling that she was entirely isolated from all the iconic parts of Elvis's celebrity. It also made him seem more like a real person instead of this untouchable piece of history.
Priscilla was a producer for her film tho & I thought she was in control of his estate?
@@AprilMHeil-cc1me No, the estate was turned over to her daughter when she turned 21. She was only ever the caretaker until her daughter came of age.
The absurd height difference between Cailee and Jacob Elordi works so well. She looks like a literal child next to him as she should because Priscilla is a child.
Don't translate.... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
was about to comment that! also i remember up close shots of both their hands in Priscilla and yeah.... shes a kid, hes an whole adult man!!! Love how Sofia never let us forget about that throughout the movie
YES also how petite she is like she could fit in a box 📦 he literally towered over her
@@ville__I hope it does :)
fr! i’ve seen people actually COMPLAIN about the height difference and im like ???? i assumed the point of the height difference was to make the audience feel even more uncomfortable about the age difference and it definitely did that
the male vs female perspective is such a major difference in both of these films
in elvis’s perspective bad things only happen to him and he’s basically innocent of everything. vs in priscilla he’s a distant and predatory
Priscilla never brought up having her bf leave his pregnant wife to move in with her. I’m sure that’s a Female POV issue 😂
@@oki__ It's interesting how you make it sound as if that man was an inanimate object, while in actual fact he freely chose to abandon his pregnant wife.
@@oki__ he's a fully grown man he chose to leave ?? why are you acting like he's the child and not her ??
"HAVING her bf LEAVE his pregnant wife" Omg Elvis who was older than her was being controlled by her?! He left his pregnant wife because she forced him and not of his own volition and choice?! Damn Priscilla, Gimme your witch powers girlie, I am gonna use it to make all the bad, perverted men LEAVE their child Brides and my friends alone!! If only the world worked that way..if only
"this makes my father look predatory" he was 24 and she was 14 what are you on about
@@A.P087nah 14 and 24 was weird even by fifties standards. Who are you to decide if Priscilla was a victim? She didn’t ask for your opinion.
@@A.P087First off, it doesn't fucking matter if standards of the time were different. It could be the 1940s or the 1400s, seducing and marrying CHILDREN IS WRONG. Second, in most of human history, most people got married/had children in their 20s (though, they could be betrothed at younger ages but not necessarily married). This is no different for the 1940s and 50s. In the time period where Elvis met and dated Priscilla, the average marital age was 23 for men and 20 for women. So Elvis being 25 going after a 14 year old was weird for 1940s-40s standards. The only reason why people didn't call him out was because he was rich and famous.
@@A.P087 14 years old in 1950 is still the same physiologically as 14 years old in 1850 or in 2025. They have just started puberty and are flooded with increased hormones, their frontal cortex is nowhere near fully developed so they have little impulse control, rational thinking or even self esteem. Elvis was 25 so was sexually mature and had a fully developed frontal lobe. Not to even talk of the social and financial power he had compared to a 14 year old girl who didn't even have a high school diploma. To put it in context, he was handling millions of dollars, hard drugs and meeting the president whilst his soon to be wife should have been studying for chemistry tests. That is victimisation. It's sick. The eras change but the facts of the human mind do not. We stopped being peasants working the land long before 1950, it was wrong no matter the date stamped. Besides, ever actually think why women were married off so young? It wasn't because they were seen as mature by 14, it was to take advantage of the very underdevelopment I mentioned. Marrying girls off young was a way to entrap and subdue them at an age when they barely knew the world or themselves better so they'd be forced to rely on their husbands
@@A.P087 it was weird in the 50s.... it was more accepted but it was not normal to date a 14 yr old at 24. why do you think he waited to have sex w her? bc it wasn't legal.
@@A.P087another actor during that time, did the same thing: dating a teenage girl who was also his first cousin (???). The actor was criticised whilst Elvis was praised. Both these young women were indeed groomed by the power and fame of these two famous people. And yes, they are both victims. They didn't know what was happening was not considered normal because they were being told it was (normal)(again grooming and manipulation at play).
When considering Lisa Marie's reaction to the Priscilla biopic I couldn't help but be reminded of this Bonnie Burstow quote. "Often father and daughter look down on mother (woman) together. They exchange meaningful glances when she misses a point. They agree that she is not bright as they are, cannot reason as they do. This collusion does not save the daughter from the mother’s fate."
that’s an insane quote because at times i catch myself in that position with my father vs my mother :( i’m curious to know why that is, is it internalized misogyny ? crazy /:
@@saranavarro8417it's a mix of internalised misogyny and how we [women] have been raised in the culture of men first, and to always be praised by the man at the cost of women's feelings and opinions. It can be unlearned!!! but it is detrimental to both of the women's minds because the cycle will forever repeat until one of the daughters somewhere down the line stops it and could even turn it on its head and share glances with the mother over a point the father misses. though of course fighting fire with fire will only burn everything ten fold
Boy does that quote hit him as an only child and daughter of my parents
@@saranavarro8417my theory is because daughters are often the first women/girls in a man's life that he views as an actual person. Not as a mother figure or an object of sexual desire. It could also be because he sees more of himself in her as his child, and therefore deems her worthy of respect. Either way the daughter often picks up on that subconscious disdain he has for her mother and mirrors it as a way to bond. I know this happened in my family.
Very interesting quote. I’m sure that is reality for many. Maybe my family is more matriarchal though, bc it’s usually mama & I looking down on dad, lol.
Lisa Marie was NINE when Elvis died. Of course she doesn’t see her father in the way he was portrayed in “Priscilla.” She grew up only knowing the version of him from when she was a kid + the world speaking highly of him/his legacy. Priscilla may have contributed to that fanfare, but doesn’t mean what Elvis did to her was ok.
@@kin_the_tshe didnt do anything but preserve an a-holes legacy and leave her daughter rich. go away elvis apologist
@@kin_the_talmost like child brides don’t make the best mothers
@@kin_the_t Being a bad mom & continuing a cycle of abuse doesn’t cancel out the fact that Priscilla herself was taken advantage of at a young age by Elvis. Many things can be true at the same time.
@@kin_the_t you’re missing the point. When you are groomed by an older person for sexual/romantic during your developmental years and then go on to marry and have children with this person you are robbed of important psychological development. My own mother treated me terribly but by looking into her past it’s obvious how she ended up doing the things she did. It’s not an excuse for child abuse but it is an explanation.
@@SlighlyMacsignore them. They aren't making good faith arguments based on their comment history
the way that Elvis barely brought up the fact that Priscilla was FOURTEEN and made it such a little deal and that in Priscilla it was a major part of the plot really shows something
And always calling her little girl …… HELLO????
Don't translate.... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
@@kin_the_this side of the story doesn’t change the fact that she was 14 tho
I didn’t even think about it in this way before I read this comment. Obviously I knew that the avoidance of Priscilla’s age in Elvis was bad, but your comment really made me see the societal commentary it makes: for the man, or the groomer in the situation, his victim is just a drop in the ocean, unimportant really. For the woman, or the groomed, her entire story is about this man. And I think that in and of itself says multiple things. On the one hand, Elvis’ grooming of Priscilla is the main story in Priscilla’s life because that’s what grooming does, it makes your entire world revolve around your groomer so you can never leave. But it also speaks to the effects that grooming has. Even after divorce and escaping the situation, Elvis is such a big part of Priscilla’s story because she then has to do all the work to deal with the grooming and the trauma and everything that was instilled in her for years. For Elvis, he just got to move on. His grooming didn’t further affect him. Basically the difference in these movies focus shows an aspect of WHY grooming is so pred-tory (don’t want this comment to get auto removed). The victims entire life gets built around their victimizer. The victimizer gets full autonomy, full selfhood, full ability to just ignore the reality of the situation
Wether you like it or not, back then, it obviously didn't matter much. It wouldn't have changes the fact that they got married and that no one really batted an eye about it. To point out would be to pander to today's world views. But that not what ut was back then. Why do you think Disney princesses, fairy tales, sweet sixteen and quinceaneras were a thing? Romeo and juliet for goodness sake. Btw I'm glad that the age of adulthood has risen but I'm not ignorant enough to think that people of the past had completely different views on those things then. We are supposed to look through a lens of what it was back then not how we think it should have been.
Honestly Lisa Marie’s reaction to Priscilla is really sad to me. Her mother finally gets a chance to share her story literally based on her memoir and with her as an executive producer and her own daughter diminishes her experiences to “protect her”. It seems like Priscilla did her best to shield her daughter from realising her father’s sh!tty behaviour, but when she was finally ready to open up about it her daughter wasn’t willing to support her.
@@tlo3571ain’t nobody reading all dat
@@kin_the_tand??? She was literally born from predatory love/groomed
@@britneybritneywhaaaaaa?!?!?! What happened?! I don’t know anything about them, just here for Jordan’s commentary, but this is an interesting point if you care to elaborate.
@@kin_the_tPriscilla didn't protect her enough you're right, but Priscilla was broken by all the grooming of course she couldn't be a good mom. That's why grooming is bad. It messes people up.
@@Mochalolo1928 Sometime after Elvis and Priscilla split, she started dating a man named mike edwards. Mike admitted that he was attracted to Lisa Marie. Lisa Marie was very much a child at this time. This led to him praying on her. I didn’t know any of this until I read ‘Child Bride’ a very detailed read of Priscilla’s life
The thing is, priscilla's life was elvis. She was isolated from her family, she didn't have friends, elvis managed money and everything. I think the movie depicted the grooming process perfectly. She was a child that got grommed by a famous person, that's the story the movie tells and everyone being horrified by that is just because it was elvis...
The whole way through I was feeling horrified by what I was seeing. I felt so bad for her. I was like: please someone get this baby out of this situation. It was painful to see.
@@KuR58 same i was like please someone take this man to prison
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In a way, I understand Lisa Marie Presley's anger towards the film and denial about the actions of her father. When I was a child, my grandpa was my grandpa whom I loved and was a fun person I enjoyed being around. As I got older and after he passed away, I learned that he was an abusive alcoholic who preyed on my grandma when she was 16 and he was 24. In the years I knew him, he had "mellowed out" so to say. It's still difficult for me to reconcile the reality of who he was in his past and the man who was my grandpa.
add a financial incentive on top too
Did we have the same grandpa? Mine was a full decade older and they got married when she was 16, which was pretty normal in their country then. Except my mom didn't try to sugarcoat who he was.
Priscilla let her bf take advantage of an adolescent Lisa Marie. Priscilla is a scammer and money hungry.
FELTTTT, my dad got my mum pregnant with me when he was 27 and she was 15 and my grandad assaulted two of my aunts (his daughters) the two male figures in my life I loved the most just turned out to foul men. Can’t love them the same after all that tbh.
To a lesser degree same. Like my dad has mellowed out a bunch but as an adult knowing he was violent with my mom (before they thankfully divorced) its hard to know how to feel sometimes when he's always been nice in my memory
I think it is good to contextualize that Lisa Marie had a fraught relationship with her mother. She grew up having Elvis as the "better" parent compared to Priscilla, who was a much more strict and demanding parent than her ex-husband. It did not help that Priscilla introduced Scientology to Lisa Marie and disregarded her daughter's pleas when she was being h*r*ssed by her then-partner. Comparing the two, it's no wonder Lisa Marie idolized her father. Even until the very end, I think it was hard for her to reconcile who Elvis really was.
That's what sucks about abuse. It messes up a victims ability to maintain a healthy relationship. It's not their fault, but it is their actions. It's just tragic.
Thank you for bringing another layer of nuance that isn’t as well known or discussed. This is obviously a messy, messy, situation
You don't know who Elvis really was and nothing prisiclla says is credible. Priscilla is the only child molester in this story and you take her word as gospel.
i went into priscilla with a jacob elordi obsession, and left with a cailee spaeny obsession. she’s amazing and so beautiful, and she really should have had more recognition after the film came out
Don't translate.... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
She was fantastic in Civil War too! Highly recommend
Check out civil war!
@@abbym4916 i will, ty!
Dolly Parton actually wrote the song to describe parting ways with Porter Wagoner, a mentor of hers. So Elvis wanted ownership over a very intimate piece of story telling, something we know he had a habit of. Go Dolly for holding on to it! She sings the songs in a duet with an Elvis impersonator on her recent rock album!
Don't translate.... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
@@ville__get a life
It wasn't Elvis, it was The Colonel as he was handling the publishing affairs. Dolly has stated that multiple times herself. And Elvis did sing the song in private (for example to Priscilla while walking out of the court house after their divorce processing) as he adored it.
@@patricialokijockel4266 more context! Thanks!
I also think a whole movie could be made about Porter Wagoner’s horrible relationship with Dolly- he controlled HUGE aspects of her career and personal life and her leaving his show/their partnership really parallels the scene the song is used in in Priscilla. Dolly in the end rose above it all and forgave him, even buying the rights to all of his music and gifting it to him before he died
I felt Lisa Marie's email was incredibly disrespectful to her mother. Like... she doesnt understand whats being made? Shes too incompetent to have accurately described and experienced her own life? Okay.
@@KreatureCargeaux I could understand if she was a child or a teenager but she wasn't. She must have known how old her mother was when they got together and the issues he had. I wouldn't call it like ignorance and not wanting the truth, but willfully rejecting it
@@kin_the_tshe was 17. I remember being 17 and how young and innocent I was. Cope
@@kin_the_t "almost"
@@kin_the_tpriscilla was a doting mother to both her kids. Even her son couldnt stand lisa marie bc he said shes a marcissist who couldnt handle sharing a mother. But nice try
@KreatureCargeaux I understand what you're saying, but it's not like he died yesterday... and he was a public figure. Much of his life and behavior has been known for decades. It's just bizarre to me that she would recognize that Priscilla spent her life elevating Elvis' legacy, then in the same breath insunuate Priscilla must be naiive or too ill equipped (i.e. senile or mentally unwell) to understand the script when it's based on her own memory. It's... insulting lol.
It's telling that Elvis featured more in Priscilla's biopic than she does in his. While Elvis loved Priscilla and Lisa Marie, he was too consumed by his addictions and fame.
I don't think we can assume that he did, sure it's a possibility but we will never know. As a girl who was also groomed by an older man at 14, love is not the word I would use. Our relationship lasted 7 years. He found me sexually attractive and formed a relationship around that. He still claims that he loved me, and for a long time I believed it. As I grew older I realized a grown man doesn't go for a child for true love, they're just easier to manipulate. I think it's far more likely Priscilla actually loved him and Elvis was using her as a source of *feeling* loved, sex and emotional support.
Don't translate.... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
It's telling, certainly, because it is a reflection of the reality of male directing and why more women are needed in the industry. It's the same with Barbie and Oppenheimer. Men in Barbie got a massive role despite it being purely fiction and targeted at women. Whilst even though Oppenheimer is based on historical events and people, women's roles were actually minimised and, dare I say, diminished. All mentioned films are wonderful, though, it's just faschinating (and sad) when you compare them to see how women are rendered smaller than they are, even when a film is based on history and they played a massive role in real life.
@@kin_the_tExactly 😂 the real biography of Priscilla. In fact in the movie they also change the name of Currie Grant in Terry West 🤔
@@jl2280I personally wouldn’t say that about the women in Oppenheimer’s life in the movie (Jean & Kitty). I still have that impression that they’re still being presented as having great influence in Oppenheimer, both good & bad. Sure, it would be nice to feature the Curies & Meitner, but they themselves are not involved with the Manhattan Project nor his personal life. And the film has to focus on major figures, including Oppenheimer.
the way you pause halfway through talking about the portrayal of Elvis' affairs to say "I just realised I look like the Sims robber if he slayed" and then go right back to the point you were making... nobody does it like Jordan Theresa fr
It scratched my brain so well
i had a good chuckle at this
The reality is Elvis never cheated when they were married and has girlfriends before because he had no romantic intentions with a soulless china doll like Priscilla.
I think Lisa Marie’s stance on the Pricilla film was more about protecting the business of Elvis’s legacy, than him as a person. She was 9 when he died, and Pricilla put a lot of energy into preserving his legacy so she had something to inherit. Pricilla’s autobiography is kind of wild. She describes him grooming her in detail, but romanticizes it. It’s genuinely quite sad.
I listened to her memoir as an audiobook, which if I remember correctly, Priscilla herself narrated, and throughout she says things very lightly and chuckles a lot in hindsight, even the parts that describe things that are very obviously abusive to anyone but the victim. I think it makes such a good point to how grooming works. Like it affects a child/teenager's perception so much that it takes soooo much work to unbrainwash themselves even well into adulthood.
@@Andy-ne5qi Unbrainwashing....healing seems to hurt more than hurting itself when it's all you've ever known...and even that's being taken away
@@Andy-ne5qi I always think of Celine Dion's marriage also... I don't understand how/why her family allowed it to happen!
Priscilla's autobiography is nothing but lies.
i didn’t like elvis as a film just in general but i especially found the way it treated both the Priscilla situation and Elvis stealing music from black musicians so insensitive and borderline dangerous… i loved priscilla on the other hand and thought it was so gentle and tasteful (e.g. by never showing them actually having sex), i understand the criticism of ending the film when she finally leaves elvis, but if the real priscilla presley was part of the production and happy for her story to be told like that, then i don’t see a major problem with it
@@kin_the_tYeah bullshit lmao. And he literally stole his little shimmy shit from Chuck berry lol
@@chikari123 The same Chuck Berry who said “Describe Elvis Presley? He was the greatest who ever was, is or ever will be.”?
@@adasga that doesn't mean elvis didn't copy him lol
@@jamiegibsn7543 The truth is that people today LOVE to say silly things like you do about Elvis stealing and appropriating culture. But the very people like Chuck Berry, B.B. King, Fats Domino et, you think you're fighting for had nothing but love and respect for the man.
@@adasga Yeah him! Quick question do you think black people back then would talk shit about Elvis? Rock n roll had already been white washed and white people were trying to claim that they were the catalyst for rock n roll, and Elvis peak was during the most turbulent times in America surrounding race. So why would any black person talk shit about Elvis back then? Let’s use the context of history next time 😬
Fun fact about Tom Hanks accent it drove me so insane when I watched the movie that I looked up interviews with the Colonel from around the exact same time and he actually had quite an American sounding accent because he’d lived there for a while so it is even more insane as a choice
i havent watched the movie or heard his real accent but that choice feels kinda like the basic foreign-sounding villain to contrast the wholesome all-american protagonist thing that american films do a lot very interesting !
This is just my opinion, but there are a lot of interesting choices regarding accents in American movies and dubs. For example actors not knowing how the original person/language sounds like and doing a "general" accent that might be from the region. Sometimes they even add accents where its not even needed.
I think this has to do with whoever ther accent or language coach is @@judit5173
After seeing Elvis in person with my bf, he said "wow they really glanced over the fact that Elvis was 25" in reference to him meeting Priscilla when she was 14. And it became an ongoing inside joke to say "hey I'm 25 year old Elvis Presley" because it doesn't directly mention Priscilla's age, but it implies it. It's such a major aspect of their relationship because of how much Elvis took advantage of the power imbalance
actually have a closer look at elvis videos on youtube and you will see what a humble kind guy he was .He was 22 not 25 . Met when 14 doesnt mean he slept with a 14 year old
@@dunedin158 wow 22 year old dating a 14 year old and not a 25 year old huuuuge difference truly!!!!! Humble, in the interviews, and sooo...?
Your comment is incredibly ignorant. 22 to 14 is disgusting. Doesn't matter how humble and lovely he was. @@dunedin158
@@dunedin158 I'm 25 year old Elvis Presley
@@dunedin158 actually a very quick search (or reading an actual book) puts him at 24, almost 25 (met her in September 59, turned 25 in January 60). not that 22 is much better but this is factually incorrect
I just watched Priscilla a few days ago. I’ve never seen the Baz Luhrmann Elvis (not a fan of his directing style). But I loved that Sofia Coppola emphasized how inappropriate Elvis and Priscilla’s relationship really was. Cailee Spaney did an amazing job of playing a naive, 14 year-old girl. I wish she’d gotten more awards recognition
I like that it was done in a way that lacked heavy moralising like she shows the inappropriateness of the age gap without explicitly positioning Priscilla as a victim and making that an overly central part of the film, even if technically she was. It feels more honest(?) like her at 15 probably wasn’t preoccupied thinking hmm this is a dodgy dynamic and I’m clearly a victim of the grooming of this fully grown man etc.
@@mauve9266yeah things like the shoe and clothes being too big we’re perfectly subtle ways to send the message
The real Priscilla was anything but naive and was far more sexually experienced than Elvis.
@@SeanIgo a 14 year old? Yeah alright mate.
@shanel4294 yeah. Priscilla's mother stole her childhood long before she met Elvis. She liked to live her dreams through her daughter. Honey boo boo on steroids. Look into it.
No one wants to believe their parent did monstrous things but the truth is, Elvis used his power and fame to seduce a very young girl. He may not have done it sexually (we don't truly know) but the power imbalance is so large that it makes sense that Priscilla fell for him fast. It is entirely possible that Elvis was a good father the Lisa Marie but was too young to understand or see how he treated her mother in the later years. In the original miniseries "Elvis and Me" (available on KZhead), there was an instance of marital rape that Priscilla felt the need to walk back on. I'm she did feel (and clearly was) violated but that would never be accepted by Elvis fans nor her daughter. Having grown up in his shadow, I can understand the need for Lisa Marie to defend her father but she would never get the chance to know him as her mother did.
@@A.P087 i feel like i can believe that a man who's 24 being w a 14 yr old can do bad things. she also wasn't his last 14 yr old.
@@A.P087you're justifying pedophilia and grooming alot in these comments
@@jamiegibsn7543Who were the other minors he groomed?
I thought the Priscilla film was very fair to Elvis. I definitely did not condone a lot of his actions in regards to Priscilla, but I found it hard to really think of him as a villain. It showed how he was affected by fame and his management team. He had all this power, and yet not much power. He felt like a PERSON. Who did some really awful stuff.
these were also my thoughts after watching Priscila, I didn’t think Elvis was a villain but definitely a horrible person at times , it seemed like he didn’t know how to handle pressures of fame and became too self entitled
Yea but grooming a teenager and being predatory towards Priscilla and other women is a fucked up thing to do
@@natasha5553 it is but also her parents basically gave him the okay to groom her and it’s like did he even have the capacity to think it’s wrong because her parents were okay with it?? It would have been nice if the actual Elvis movie showed i’d this man even had an ounce of a conscious to not even get invested in her I don’t doubt he didn’t talk about it with the Colonel guy
Y’all have truly something wrong with yall. Dude literally dated a child unapologetically, eventually married her and somehow you come up with this? This is the exact reason why so many kids are groomed, manipulated and molested by adults or other older teenagers and then have no one on their side. Get some genuine sympathy for the actual victim fr
@@munmunilit’s a responsible decision in the parents behalf yes, but he was the one who would convince them that she would be alright and treated well yet he wound up grooming her and being borderline verbally abusive
I didn’t like that they didn’t mention Pricilla’s affairs etc. because it would have added so many more layers to her character and the relationship.
Fair enough
I know we don’t want to criticize Lisa Marie too much since she has passed but I found her email really condescending towards her mother…. Especially since Pricilla had a chance to take back HER story.
The email to Coppola complained about her SCRIPT, not her mother's story. In fact, her script is not so faithful to Priscilla's book in many parts. When I see these scenes of Priscilla walking in an empty house I laugh (that house was always full of people and she always complained about the lack of privacy)...when I see Priscilla finding a dog alone I laugh (in the book is Elvis who kindly gave it to her )...when I see Elvis throwing a chair to her, I laugh (it never happened in that way as Priscilla is declaring in her book and recent interviews). In the movie the actress always seems like a 14 year old manipulated girl Priscilla decided her look (as she stated many times ) had all the freedom to go whenever she wanted, had her affairs with other men and so on, but you don't see this in the movie. You only see Elvis being mad or aggressive to her. Lisa was conscious about the problems in the marriage and why Priscilla left . Lisa was absolutely right about the movie and the false and distorted perception of his father. In fact people are writing so many absurdities you can't keep count. This movie is only crap 👎🏻
@@elvis78ale right because you were there the whole time and Priscilla maybe wasn’t truthful in her book and she wanted to be truthful in this movie? the lying works both ways when a victim to cope with your situation
@@munmunilI can’t stand all these thinly veiled “Elvis Stan’s” in the comments section trying to discredit Priscilla the movie as well as Priscilla’s own life story. It’s like there’s no nuance with these people, there’s only “one” truth to them, and it’s “defending the honor” of this man who’s been dead for 50+ years who they will never know. it’s pathetic really. Yeah maybe Priscilla isn’t “The Perfect Victim” (spoiler alert: no one is) but no amount of “oH sHe ChAnGeD HeR sTorY” comments can change the fact that she was 14 and he was 25. Period done. Nothing that Lisa Marie said about the script of this movie changes the facts: she was 9 when he died, and did not even remotely get to know him the way her mom did, and two, she herself is no longer with is and can no longer speak on behalf of herself. Any complexities or nuance Lisa Marie could have provided is now gone because she is gone, so it’s actually kind of twisted for these people to use her words against Priscilla (who is still HER mom mind you) to try and create this narrative that Priscilla is a bold faced liar, when Lisa can’t even comment on any of that. Like how can we, comment on their family dynamic when not only we’re none of us there, but two of them aren’t here with us anymore. All we have is the facts, and no amount of nostalgia or previous attachment can change what really happened. I know this is a long paragraph to dedicate to a tiny amount of naysayers but my god, it’s like people don’t know how to decide for themselves anymore. some people are truly blinded by para social relationships and nostalgia
The movie was not true to Pricillas book. And Lisa is allowed to not like her mother, especially after all the things that happened to her under her care.
@@stxrstrxckmxteo515 no one is saying she wasn't groomed the point is if you are going to make a movie of someone's SERIOUS TRAUMA maybe at least be true the the book the literal victim wrote?
18:15 “he sounds like the Lindt master chocolatier” MADE ME CHOKE 💀💀💀
It's been nearly two years since that film came out and I still find great amusement in hearing people's descriptions of what Tom Hanks' accent sounds like
I appreciate the choice to cast a stork of a man like Jacob Elordi as Elvis. He looms large in the movie, in both a good and a bad way.
I just find it funny that Lisa-Marie called the Elvis biopic true to her fathers persona. Like ma'am he died when you were a literal baby what would you know about the complexities of him you barely remember him. And this is not to say she can't view her dad however she wants. But when you start to openly critique your mothers experiences to uplift your dead father, well thats just petty. She clearly viewed her father in a very rose tinted way because she never really got to know him. Where as she got to constantly pick her mother apart for leaving him.
she was not a "literal" "baby". that is not how the word literal works, first off. second off, she was 9. so a child, but not a baby.
@@Man-ej6uvtrue but the point still stands- she hadn’t even hit double digits. I only realized my dad cheated on my mom and that’s why they divorced after I became a teenager, despite the divorce happening when I was 7-8. Worse yet, the gravity of that didn’t settle in until recently. Until all of this, I’d viewed my father with very rose tinted glasses. Now I’m not saying that my experience should apply to all kids, including Lisa Marie, but I’m just trying to give an example of how age can affect how you see things. She probably hardly knew much about her father at only 9, yet acted like the view she had since then was what he was actually like.
@@Man-ej6uv 9 is a literal baby. You dont know anything about who your parents truly are at 9. Also this man was never home anyway. He spent more time in other women than he did with his ex and child
@@cyagami90true you don’t fully know your parents at 9, but literal baby? That’s flat out wrong
@@renoirrrfacts i didn’t really see my parents for who they are and even holding grace for a parent who i seen as the “wrong” parent until I myself became a parent tbr
Having empathy for the experiences of someone who is a manipulator AND thinking that person is problematic are not mutually exclusive. Elvis was thrust into a very unnatural life at a very young age and then was exploited by people he trusted. I can absolutely understand why he turned to drugs and binging and how he came to be a problematic person to his wife. I don’t like this assumption that both things cannot be true. It’s the exact same with Michael Jackson.. these two were artistic trailblazers and the impact of their art is forever. They were both deeply traumatized by their experiences and then, like many many other people, turned to addictive and abusive behaviors to manage that trauma. There is space to laud them for their craft and there is also space to criticize who they became while also acknowledging what lead them there. Another great video, friend. ❤
Sorry but how is it the “exact same” as Michael Jackson???
@@emmamendes4962 we can have empathy for the abuse and exploitation he endured AND ALSO accept that he was a pedophile and committed crimes against children.
How was MichaelJackson abusive? I know we’re not talking about the “victims” who stories keep changing every 5 years. Those allegations seem like a setup to me.
It’s almost like neither biopic was actually about Elvis, the Priscilla one is obviously about Priscilla and her relation to Elvis, but the Elvis film is basically the whole ‘last 7 minutes’ theory for Col. Parker. It’s his deathbed dissertation on how HE wasn’t wrong. Elvis isn’t portrayed for himself, we don’t actually get to know him, EVER.
"I look like the sims robber if he slayed" I just cackled
I absolutely loved both movies. In different ways of course. I think people may be looking too deep into the first film with Austin butler- I think the point of the movie was digging down into Elvis’s relationship with his manager Tom Parker and the financial abuse that happened during the duration of his career. Yes, they could have discussed the relationship between Elvis and Pricilla more, but it wasn’t the main highlight of the movie itself. Whereas “Pricilla” was about the relationship between her and Elvis and only that. Both were great and I enjoyed them very much.
When I was a child, I thought KFC colonel sanders and colonel tom parker were one and the same person
I mean Lisa Marie did marry Michael Jackson so I wonder if she had certain rose colored glasses around very famous musicians
What’s that supposed to mean?
Honestly, I think the two movies just focused on different things. It’s the same life but two different perspectives. Whereas Elvis focused more on his career trajectory and his fame and public life, Priscilla is told from her point of view and it really peels back the fame to reveal what he was like at home, how different circumstances in his life made him who he was. Honestly it was hard to fully villainize him after watching Priscilla, because his arc was just very human. The fame and his management team really controlled everything about him, and to cope he turned to his vices. I found it to be very humanizing
Actually, "I Will Always Love You" was not written for Elvis. Dolly Parton used to be a performer for basically a country music show and she had grown quite popular, due to her immense talent obviously, and her agent had urged her to leave the show and start her own solo career. Dolly wrote the song "I Will Always Love You" for the host of the show (can't remember his name) because she and the host were very close, and if I'm not mistaken that was the last song she ever performed on that show before she left. It could have been written for Elvis though, or maybe at one point she claimed it was written for Elvis, I'm not sure, but since the song was written before she was really famous I doubt it. Let me know if I'm wrong: )
Written for as in written for him to preform
You are right. She had already recorded it and it was a number 1 hit before Elvis even asked to cover it.
@@cyagami90 no, she performed it.
When she says written for Elvis she means written by Dolly for Elvis to sing and perform.
@emmamendes4962 but Dolly didn't write it for Elvis to perform . . . Sure he did, that's one thing, but that would mean that Dolly wrote the song with Elvis in mind. Which she did not.
Theres no way Lisa-Marie never had a conversation with her mother about her life with her father or AT least about what her memoir said about him. So either she genuinely believed her mother had an exaggeratedly villainous view of her father and is wrong (Mind you she was 9 when he died); Or she was attempting to protect her father’s image in order to protect her inheritance and probably her mental peace by diminishing her mothers experience Either way we will never know how she would reacted to the film. Though by the looks of her 10 page email it probably wouldn’t have changed
Actually, Lisa Marie has read the book that the biopic was based on. In fact, she stated on multiple occasions that it was the only book about her father that she would ever read. Lisa was well aware of the things that happened in her marridge. The email discussed in this video was NOT about Priscilla's experiences as a wife, it was about the script of the movie. Because Coppola actually significantly changed events and atmosphere surrounding Elvis and Priscilla's life. Lisa Marie was taking issue with the changing of events to make Elvis look worse than he actually was. There are multiple events of physical abuse in the movie that never happened in Priscilla's memoir. And in fact, Priscilla has talked about those moments in movie and how they're not accurate, never happened, and she doesn't know why the movie writers did that. Lisa Marie was not disparaging her mother's story, she was condemning the writers for making bullshit
@@harley69 that’s a much more comforting reality but weird as fuck from the writers
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The little Shawol party in the comments makes my heart so happy 🩵💚
For anyone interested, Child Bride: The Untold Story of Priscilla Beaulieu Presley by Suzanne Finstad is GREAT! It is one that really ruffles feathers bevause it uses sound evidence to show that there are a lot, ALOT of differences from the story Pricilla told vs what actually happened. I am happy to have read that because it gave a well-rounded picture to who Pricilla really was. Totally worth reading.
@@A.P087 oh no! A 14 year old girl got taken advantage of by adult men, what a provocateur she is!!
im sure it offers a more nuanced portrayal or atleast a diff side to priscilla, but the reviews of the book from diehard elvis fans seem to be just as hellbent on painting her as one (usually evil) thing as the ppl who criticize that book 😵💫 i plan to read it, although im kind of skeptical of it from some descriptions of it, that imply the book consists of victim blaming priscilla rather than simply acknowledging complexities for a wider narrative & context
But that was debunked. Priscilla sued Finstad and won.
@@marabanara she didn’t sue her. It’s so weird to write that on the same internet that you could have used to simply Google this information. Pricilla sued Grant for claiming they had sex, not the author of Child Bride. Let’s stop with the misinformation, please.
maybe the difference between priscilla's is that, from elvis' point of view she was mature, she was a woman, whilst in priscilla we see her as her true form, a child (like you said) playing dress up this is very visible during the wedding scenes from both movies, also the male and female gaze play a very big roll with the movies
NO! NO! NO! 💯% Wrong! Dolly Parton wrote "I Will Always Love You" for her mentor and professional partner Porter Wagoner. She has said that she imagined Elvis singing the song, but she didn't write it for him. This fact has been well documented in many interviews of her talking about why she wrote the song.
When my husband talks about the actor who played Elvis, he means Jacob Elordi, because he loved Priscilla and hated Elvis. And I totally love my husband for it
you literally articulated all of my issues with the Elvis biopic so well
Love the video! Just wanted to mention that Dolly wrote the song as a goodbye to her former business partner. She sang it to him to say farewell since she had to move on with her career but would always cherish the time they had. When Elvis approached her saying how much he loved the song and wanted to make a recording she really wanted him to do it but had to pass since she didn’t want to give up the rights to the song. Dolly is such an amazing singer songwriter. Her songs have felt personal to so many people even a superstar like Elvis!
"Priscilla" was so good and made people talk so much that it got "Elvis" more views. reminds me of "Barbenheimer". there was an article about how so many people would go to the cinema for "Barbie" but it would be sold out. instead of going home they'd buy "Openheimer" tickets because "Barbenheimer" was talked about so much. if "Barbie" and "Priscilla" weren't made (and so popular), they other two wouldn't be AS successful.
I actually like how the two movies kind of juxtapose each other and show two sides of a coin. I loved how Elvis told the story about the relationship between Elvis and the colonel, since that story has never (that i know of) been told. I think if Elvis included the issues surrounding him and Priscilla any more it would have been WAY too much for the movie. that’s why I love how Priscilla gives her that voice and tells the story of their relationship in a much different way.
Liked Elvis, haven’t seen Priscilla. I think there is absolutely a space for both films and the stories they tell, but never expect Baz Luhrmann to be subtle or character-driven 😆 He knows how to convey star-struck feelings like nobody else, but I would be open to seeing the depth and tenderness with Sophia.
as someone who enjoyed both films, i’m so excited for this video
I feel like this story is just not meant for film. elvis was fast and engaging but by the end I thought “this is STILL going?” whilst Priscilla was slow and subtle but by the end I thought “wait that’s it?” 😂
that lindt comparison caught me so off guard but it was so on the nose
Hi, very big Elvis fan here: I wanted to start commenting things so BADLY while I was watching this video, but I reserved my thoughts until the very end. There are two major differences between “Elvis” and “Priscilla” that need to be pointed out. The first being that “Elvis” was made to reignite the fan base and tell the story of Elvis’ life. It was made intentionally for the fans of Elvis. It was meant to almost be lighthearted and just show his life without getting too much into the gritty, dirty aspects of it. It showed the highlights. “Priscilla” was not made for Elvis fans. And it was not intended to be watched by them. It was meant to tell the story of Elvis and Priscilla’s relationship from her perspective. Secondly are the viewpoints of each film. “Priscilla” was made with Priscilla Presley working directly on it. It was made (the second of its like. “Elvis and Me” made in 1988) from Priscilla’s memoir and added in her direct thoughts and emotions throughout her relationship with Elvis. It’s a first person look at what happened from her side, her experiences, her emotions, and her perceptions of what was going on. “Elvis” is a third person look at “here’s Elvis’ life. This is what happened.” It lacks emotion and intimacy. It has historical inaccuracies and missing pieces. Essentially, it’s a fluff piece made to make Elvis look good. But it’s lacking because we don’t have Elvis’ perspective. We don’t have his direct thoughts and emotions guiding the scenes. We don’t have him to tell us why he made the decisions that he did, or why things happened the way they did. We don’t have his perspective on what he experienced through his life; the traumas, the good times, the drugs, the sex and food addictions, the stress. We have essentially NOTHING from Elvis. And we never will, because he’s not here to tell his story. We only have recounts of things he’s told to interviewers and from the friends and family that he confided in. Unfortunately, Elvis getting involved with Priscilla as young as she was, was just a product of the times. Older men looked for younger women that they could mold into good wives, into good family makers. It was just what happened then. Was it right? Hell no. And that’s why, as a society, we’ve evolved beyond that. Women started pushing back against being controlled entirely in relationships and standing up for themselves. The feminist movement started because women were tired of being pushed around and controlled by men. Elvis was, unfortunately, a product of his time. He did what he was taught a man should do. He didn’t do things differently because he didn’t know to do things differently. At the end of the day, Elvis was a human being who experienced a lot in his life. A lot of trauma and hardship, and was thrust into a career and a level of stardom that was unknown at that time. No one knew how someone that famous was supposed to act. And being a man, Elvis didn’t like to talk about the things that were troubling him. He stuffed himself full of drugs and food because that was the only way he knew how to stifle the emotion. You didn’t just talk about what you were feeling then as a man. Ultimately, that mindset is what lead to Elvis’ death. Because he had a major health issue that he refused to talk about. He wouldn’t discuss the issues with his stomach, because he was a man and a man didn’t talk like that. His personal physician tried to offer him a way to fix it, and he refused. Elvis definitely had anger issues, as was shown very well in “Priscilla”. He didn’t know how to control his emotions. While I didn’t like it, I think “Priscilla” did a very good job at showing the more human side of Elvis. Portraying their relationship in parts that happened. I think the reason EPE didn’t support the film is because it didn’t show the superstar Elvis and it didn’t do much to try to protect his image. It didn’t glamorize his life in the way that they have been since his career began. It showed true, raw, human emotion that leaned towards making Elvis look bad because of his own actions. Also, Lisa Marie felt that Priscilla had been wishy washy on what things did and didn’t actually happen. Over the years, Priscilla has stated that things happened and then later stated that they didn’t happen in the way she said before. Part of the reason EPE didn’t support the film, is because who was to say how much truth there was to some of it? These things happened only between Elvis and Priscilla, and half of that perspective was missing and would never be recovered. While I did mostly enjoy “Elvis”, I felt unsettled by a lot of the inaccuracies and fluff that was added. They added things just to make Elvis look better or cooler. They also did injustice by making the Colonel look so over the top evil. The Colonel was financially abusing Elvis and exploiting him for more financial gain. As was shown through Elvis’ horrible slew of films. Elvis was not allowed to be taken seriously as an actor, because it meant that he would make less money, and in turn, the Colonel would make less money. In the midst of the ‘60s, Elvis was so burnt out by the “Elvis movie formula” that he was ready to quit making films altogether. He no longer wanted to be an actor if it meant doing this. A director suggested that Elvis should take a break and go to an acting school to learn techniques (something that had been suggested starting from even the very beginning when he did Love Me Tender). But the Colonel didn’t allow it because it meant taking a break from money. He forced Elvis to continue making films until he had a way out through the comeback special. After the comeback special, Elvis made 3 more films but was also allowed to return to performing. Colonel Tom Parker used Elvis as a pawn for his money making schemes. Anything that didn’t fit the narrative, Elvis wasn’t allowed to do. When Elvis finally caught on and tried to fire Colonel, he was met with blackmail and the threat of being sued. And because the Colonel had sucked up most of Elvis’ financial gain, he couldn’t afford to go through that and simply just had to continue. While Elvis was an autonomous human, he did not get to have much freedom over choices in his own career and life. When he did push back and try to create freedom, he was mocked and punished for it. The Colonel had a way of humiliating and manipulating Elvis into doing what he wanted him to do. While I think “Elvis” did a good job at showing this just a little, the ways they showed it were over the top and almost unbelievable. To conclude my essay: Both films did a good job at showing different things from different perspectives. I don’t think there’s really a way to compare them, as they’re both meant to be consumed by completely different audiences, and don’t share the same tone. “Elvis” was meant to show Elvis Presley’s life in an enjoyable, albeit fast paced, drawn out film. They cut out the things they felt didn’t show Elvis in a good light, so that newer generations of fans would have something to feel good about at the end of the day. It was meant to show ELVIS the legend and image, not the man. If they tried to fit every single aspect of Elvis the man into a film, it would likely be over 5 hours long and probably wouldn’t have generated the same amount of revenue or appeal. “Priscilla” was intended to show raw emotion between two human beings who shared a relationship. With one being a superstar trying to juggle his image and his personality, and the other being a child who is thrown into this lifestyle that even the person creating said lifestyle didn’t know how to control.
This comment says everything I was think and more about the two movies. I do think this video is biased towards Priscilla and more inclined to take her perspective as the more truthful side. I believe the truth of Elvis and Priscilla's relationship lies somewhere in between.
No disrespect to Austin or Jacob, but I find it kinda disappointing that we now have two Elvis biopics and none of them cast Spencer Boldman. The guy was literally compared to Elvis at the start of his career, and given how stoic and reserved he is in real life, I think he has a very clear mystique that would have translated really well to Elvis. He has it all-the looks, the acting prowess, the charisma, the connections-and yet I rarely see him cast in anything. He deserves a major breakout role, one that launches him into the big leagues the same way Elvis did for Austin.
Austin did tv for 20 years before a break out role, it doesn't always happen for every actor and i think that these actors were chosen for very different reasons
Random fun fact I have since Little Richard was mentioned, my grandmother's father was a security guard for celebrities, particularly while they were in Vegas and the surrounding region, so when she was a little girl she would sit on Little Richard's piano while he did his more intimate shows which is just so insanely cool to me and I wish I had a photo of it, maybe one day I'll find one lol
Haven't seen either movie, but I know I'm going to like Priscilla so much more based on everything I've heard about it
Not having heard Elvis' music before these films is just something I truly can't fathom😂
i might be in the minority here but i felt a bit unsatisfied with Priscilla? i really liked the movie but what did we know about her before she met elvis or even after she left him? it was kind of still all about elvis in a way (understandable bc this relationship was a huge part of her life) but i wish the movie was a bit longer so we could have seen more
i guess that's bc it was based on elvis&me! so priscillas life with elvis. but i agree, i would'e liked to see her on her own as well. more of what happened after their seperation or even after his death
Personally i don’t know what they would or could show about her life before she met him as she was 14 so beforehand she was a child - school and family was her life; it would have been interesting to see something of her life afterwards though but I understand if it’s based on her memoir of her life with elvis that’s all it would encompass so in that the name of the movie is a bit misleading
Oh, there would be a lot to show from the time before she met Elvis and how she actually managed to meet him and from the time when she continued to live in Germany - just read "child bride"!
There's an older film, called Elvis and me I believe made not too long after her book. My aunt use to watch it every year on lifetime on elvis' birthday. It shows a bit more of her life before and after, like how she was just a normal teen wanting to go to dances. Haven't seen this new one but I grew to love that one. It doesn't expand a ton bit could be fun to contrast the differences in both movies based on Priscilla's book.
she discusses this in the video and explains why
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16:33 I mean, i think Cailee's Priscilla was just as *intentionally* acted and written as Olivia's Priscilla. In fact, i thought Cailee's Priscilla came off as more of a caricature than Olivia's, because she's sooo toned-down and innocent and passive throughout the entire movie. Cailee's Priscilla in hindsight was only abt 70% like the actual Priscilla to me, who seems much more outspoken in interviews and videos irl. If I had to unnecessarily analyse why, i think it's because Priscilla Presley is a bit of a family friend of the Coppolas through Lisa-Marie's past marriage w Nick Cage and Sofia probably didn't want to go too deep with her film.
I think Lisa Marie's response to the Priscilla film cause she wants the nice image of her dad she remembers. Yeah its hard to see an idol or a believed family member portrayed badly but if thats what the truth reflects more one the bad portrayal versus the shiny Baz version, you may need to try rethinking how you view that person
i think it was the financial incentive, he died when she was 9 you would think as she got to her big old age and heard her mothers stories she’d put truth over him
@@sunkhan9468 Lisa said that the movie doesn't depict the man her mother talks about. And if you have heard hours upon hours of Priscilla talking about Elvis in documentaries and interviews and it's clear to see even as an outsider that it doesn't add up you might only imagine how Lisa would have felt.
I always find your takes so nuanced and interesting. Thank you for putting so much thought into your videos. It always makes me excited when I see a new one!
That moment when your realize people can watch the same film and get two different perspectives of it. I found the Elvis biopic to show his infidelity and drug abuse quite acurraretly. At no point does he comes across as “loyal to Priscilla”. And you see how Priscilla grows increasingly more distant from him in that. Drugs were also shown through the beginning middle and end of the film. With him drinking, taking pills before performing and him needing to get injected so he could perform.
The biggest issue with Priscilla was they made it all about Elvis. They didn’t even t get into the fact that Priscilla’s biological father died before she was born, or her eventual romance with Mike Stone who’s included in the movie. All the identifying details of Cillas life were cut. Those were vital parts to the Elvis and Me novel
I totally agree with most of the comments. But most of the filming schedule for Elvis was heavily interrupted by covid shutdowns on the Gold Coast in Queensland where the film was made. Tom Hanks's own covid bout halted production for ages. they had huge cast of extras to work with and other conflicting deadlines. they cut a lot of what was actually filmed.
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Elvis wanted to record I Will Always Love You for Dolly Parton, Colonel Tom Parker insisted on the outrageous demands that made Dolly Parton decline, and Dolly Parton actually cried bc she so badly wanted Elvis to sing it. However, he DID sing the song for Priscilla at the courthouse after their divorce. Also, nothing compares to Dolly's version and later Whitney who did the song so much justice.
That song came out in 1974. Elvis's friends said he listened to it and found it great for a probable cover. Elvis and Priscilla divorced in October 1973. Another myth that maybe Priscilla invented to fill her fantasies. I really doubt Elvis knew the whole song months before, just to sing to her. If he ever sang to her, as she claims, was sure not at the courthouse.
And what if I said I didn't like either? We hardly got to know Priscilla at all in a biopic about her. Relegating her moments of self-discovery to a montage sequence and then adding as she left Graceland as if she ceased to exist after she escaped Elvis' orbit seems so...contradictory to the supposed mission statement (a mission statement that has been assigned by fans of the movie and not the writer-director herself who has been very coy and continuously called it a love story which in reality, it was NOT).
Priscilla is not interested in making you know herself and the truth. During the years she has built her own fantasy. This movie ended in a fictional way. The reality is that she has been having another man for almost a year (Mike Stone) and left Elvis to live with him. He was married at the time and with another child coming...she stole him from his family. She is not a saint.
I’ve been waiting for this vid and here I am 5 min after it comes out 😮💖💕
Loved this perspective. Thank you for posting 🫶🏽
been looking forward to this video since you mentioned you were working on it on the podcast :)
that tiny kath and kim reference just made me love u so much more omg queen
8:50 *OMG the little Kath and Kim edit* YES!!!
OMG this upload just made my day, week, month and year
i really dont get why Lisa Marie was so against the production of Priscilla. If there was anyone who should back her mother up, it should've been her. Heartbreaking to me that she passed away with possibly resentment for her mother because of it.
I really appreciate this breakdown. I love your content girl thankyou 💓
basically, in elvis, elvis was the victim of everyone and everything else. in priscilla, priscilla was his victim. i'm so frustrated about the elvis film because i'm so invested in telling the stories of artists who are exploited and traumatised by the music industry (which is still continuing to this day). but doing so without nuance and sanitising elvis so modern audiences will like him just feels so disingenuous, lazy, and boring.
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another great take of you, love when you make this type of content
Was super into the video essay but 32:10 when she suddenly went "omg i look like the sims robber if he slayed" absolutely took me out 😂😂
Omg wait i just learned about Dolly and her credits! If you look at Beyoncé’s new album (cowboy carter everybody go listen), Dolly is credited as the sole writer! Standing on business fr
Just going to say before I even watch your video. I watched both. Coppola's stuck with me more. I do not recall -not- liking Elvis, I just don't remember it.
I noticed the lack of Elvis songs in Priscilla. I didn't know Coppola was denied use, but I honestly love the outcome. It made the focus be more on the time and more on Priscilla.
And at the end of the video, I can say I agree with everything you said regarding Pricilla. I love Baz, but this wasn't his best work. One is clearly better😅.
Elvis is more focused on Col. Parker so much that you only have a shallow impression of Elvis Presley
i think 'i will always love you' was already dolly's hit, elvis just wanted to record his version of it too when the rights issue happened! but yes, go dollyy 🙏
The Elvis movie being so fast paced really made it so hard for me to keep up with Due to watching it while cuddled up with my boyfriend & we were too busy kissing, or making jokes that when we finally were paying our full attention it felt like I was doing drugs Anyways we ended up watching the lego Batman movie like right after
I LOVE YOU Jordan! Love your topics ! Clicked on Your video sooo fast lol
i know so much about elvis, despite all his issues he still holds a soft place in my heart bc i would go to his birthplace in tupelo, MS every year. but priscilla is so powerful and i’m glad her story is being told. i feel like it’s hard to get an idea of how important elvis was (my family in the southern US cut out a picture of him and put it in our family photo album) and so his absence/distance in Priscilla is a really cool subversion, it takes him from god status down to human
Jordan your hair looks SO good
Omg what a great video idea!!! I’m gonna loveee this ❤
18:15 “he sounds like the Lindt master chocolatier” I choked on my water and almost died thanks lol
Another great video. ILYSM Jordan!! ur so smart and im so happy you make videos!!!
This is it love 🖤 your best video yet! 🎀
your hair is GORGEOUS
Love this one! Had lived under a rock clearly because I wasn't aware of either of these films but I loved the coverage as per! Xx
I am 54 and have always been a huge Elvis fan!! Ive seen all his corny movies and the movies made about him. I haven't seen Priscilla yet, but i will. Ive also read all the books about them both. I have been to Graceland and actually cried walking through the front door!! After all that i honestly didnt really like the new Elvis movie. I really wanted to but i just couldn't 😢. 😊
Interesting that Elvis did have access to his music but rather than just using those classic recordings, they had rappers and modern producer create modern sounding remixes of the songs which is just jarring. As for Priscilla, which I haven't seen yet, most of Elvis' songs were covers or written by other people. They may not have been able to get his recordings, but they could have probably gotten the rights to use new recordings of some of those songs.
not related to the video but phone in bed time w new uploads from u r always the best !!!
your videos are so insanely good
hagiography is a pretty good word for most modern biopics esp the big ones imo. good job on this video as usually Jordan (and co)!
Love the hair colour!!!
I love your videos Jordan, and this one was no exception. I basically never comment but whenever I do it’s 90% on your vid to give u and ur content some love - just because honestly you and Jonna Jinton are my all time favourite online content creators :) and that’s saying a lot coz I’ve been on here since like 2010 xdd
i loved priscilla, sofia's filmmaking makes it feel like memories from a friend? it's so romantic and sweet, and rooted in that dreamy girlhood aesthetic, which is perfect for telling the story because that's exactly what the viewpoint would be like as a young girl falling in love :,) i think jacob elordi's performance as elvis was amazing because he's obviously really charismatic lol so i felt like i was on board with priscilla's feelings for him as they developed and deteriorated. he was never a caricature, especially with his music not even in the film, it made him just the person elvis instead of the famous icon elvis. but cailee's performance was perfect to me. a combination of subtle but real feeling and relatable to me?????? for me it really feels like priscilla's my friend telling me a story lol like THE LITTLE DETAILS like the perfume moment...... that's something my friends and i would talk about for sure lol. also the end scene.. chills. CHILLSSSSSSSS. omg.