ETERNALS: Every Plot Hole EXPLAINED + EGO's Origin and Is THANOS an Eternal? | Marvel Explained
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The Eternals is the next big evolution in the Marvel Cinematic Universe...but it left a lot of unanswered questions. Is Thanos an Eternal? Why was dane Whitman in the movie? Why Deviants? Why Kro? We answer all of your questions about how this movie relates the to greater MCU, and what we can expect next for the Eternals.
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Do you have more questions about the Eternals?
Have marvel painted themselves into a corner?
Celestials makes more celestials, then what?
So it’s said that the Eternals inspired Gods and heroes of ancient mythology’s. If so, do you think the Deviants look like creatures like Griffins or lions because the evil creatures of Mythology are inspired by Deviants?
They can regenerate in comics...just like doctor who
The biggest problem left at the end of that movie is that earths core would be damaged and the whole world would crumble geographically and would no longer be a stable planet to live on so next movie i don't want to see a construction crew taking this thing apart like vultures team. Like bruh the earths core would be messed and the earths axis would tilt
Turning Sprite human is just a way to explain why the actress is older later.
They could keep her ageless through mocap/CGI.
@@roddlez which generally looks like shit and is way more expensive. I honestly thought she'd be killed off back when they first revealed the cast for this very reason.
Yea it was a pretty smart way for them to do that which she will probably be in the young avengers team up in the future
Not necessarily. I think that’s part of the reason they made sprite female. The probability of the actress growing in height is fairly small. Makeup, the wig, and a little CGI would keep her looking the same. Take Nick Fury for instance. He looks slightly older in every film. However, he looked extremely young and natural in Captain Marvel.
That's what I was thinking too. And this way there is still an Eternal on Earth to help Dane and others make sense of what happened when the celestial appeared in the sky, possibly in a sequel or another follow up movie.
"They have seen humanity survive multiple disasters: Wars, floods, New Kids on the Block." 🤣
Omg... he just threw that one in there. Caught me off guard 🤣🤣.
That’s far from the worst boyband
He’s actually pretty good with them random jabs
Did we though? Did we really survive that disaster?
@@keithcross7554 we are all extinct now.
It looks like Kro and Ajak's healing ability has to be actively used, it''s not automatic. You can see Kro in the film always turning on the power in order to use it.
I should've read the comments before making almost exactly the same comment as yours right now. lol
Why was Ikarus able to easily cut their spaceship in half with his eye beams yet he has difficulty killing the Deviants with it? Seems like they should be powerful enough to vaporize them with one shot. Same with Thena, her sword was able to easily slice that head deviant into pieces at the end but during the fighting earlier she isn’t able to one strike the deviants. Seems like there was inconsistency in power being applied for convenience sake in the movie.
We see that Sersi's powers were greatly increased once Tiamut started to emerge, this was evidenced by her turning a deviant into a tree and finally killing tiamut. This increase in strength I assume was gradual for everyone else too, starting as Tiamut awoke and ending once he died.
It was actually mentioned in the last part, where as tiamut emerged, the celestial get connected to the eternals. That's why their power scaling became significant towards the ending.
@John Doe Just because Ikaris was shown to be on the sun super fast doesn't mean it took him that fast. It was spliced to save time. Do you think a movie would wait more than an hour for him to reach the sun? 🤦♂️
@John Doe Lmao that was an assumption you dimwit. He can fly but he cannot fly that fast for sure. It was spliced there to show that he managed to reach the sun to end his life. It doesn't mean that he was fast going there. It could've took him hours to get there. What video compression are you even talking about wtf. It is clear that you cannot show the whole thing of him flying to the sun in its entirety. That's just stupid. So it's just fitting to show that he went to the sun to die there.
Also, it is highly probable that he used up all his energy to do so, because it was already a suicide with no turning back, without regard for health consequence etc. As you can see they're all vulnerable to weakness and fatigue. Also, as I have pointed out in an earlier comment, being connected to Tiamut, the Eternals had massive power scaling jump throughout the end of the movie. I bet you didn't read that.
I get the reason they gave for Kingo not being part of the final fight, it just sucked cause every second he was around was a delight. What really sucked was not having Gilgamesh, Phastos, and Kingo on the screen at the same time for any real period of time. They are three brilliant and hilarious eternals with really cool powers and I'm sad that they weren't around each other more.
I was waiting for kingo to make a dramatic entrance in the last battle lol
>Calling Phastos hilarious Did we watch the same movie?
Wouldn't Tiamut rising out of the ocean have created a giant tidal wave that would've flooded a huge area of neighboring lands? I mean, just his hand was bigger than the island. His entire body rising out of the ground & through the water would have a devastating impact.
haha yeah if an earthquake can cause tsunamis, imagine what that would've done.
I think it did. Hence the news coverage at the end of the movie.
Unless it was stopped by Atlantis. Remember, the Celestials sunk Atlantis, so the Atlanteans would have known what was going on as soon as Tiamut started emerging. They have the technology and mastery of the seas to _create_ civilization-ending tsunamis (which they've demonstrated in the comics), so they can probably stop them too. We may find out when Namor shows up.
And this event should caught a lot of attention. Say Doctor Strange, Wong, Sword Organization from the WandaVision series and other shits related to Marvel. Since the Thanos event, people should be more aware of this types of occurences and should respond immediately. Its like seeing Kate Bishop getting pummeled by tracksuits before Clint even shows up. I think someone who is a hero on New York (spiderman, daredevil, whatsoever falcon shit) should intervene and help fight those tracksuit idiots.
@@hamate6086 maybe the footages from Kingo's valet would be made public and people/org/team/govts would now have an idea of this cosmic proportion.
What if Ego was not a celestial and just a living planet. He wanted to figure out what he was and believed himself to be special, so he called himself a celestial?
That´s actually a good point
Canonically, Ego is an Elder, not a Celestial. So he's more related to The Collector, and The Gamemaster than he is to the Celestials. He's also very narcissistic, so that can explain why he thinks of himself as a Celestial.
He lived on earth for a period of time, and to us a planet is a celestial body, so even if he is a planet, he is not wrong to refer to himself as a celestial when speaking to his human earth son.
What if Ego was the surviving disembodied amnesiac brain of the celestial head called knowhere?
In this Marvel version. He is a celestial but he wants to do his own thing.
THE GREEN TABLET: "As for the Tablet, it’s the registry of sacred texts left behind by Hermes Trismegistus, a syncretic combination of the Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian god Thoth. The Tablet supposedly contains the secrets of alchemy and the recipe for the philosopher’s stone, an artifact capable of giving its user eternal life." - Collider
I was going to write this and its actually "The Emerald Tablet" includes the quote about alchemy "as above so below"... also I really think, isnt Makkari also as in god Mercury so she/he is Hermes, Thoth, Enoch, Idris etc...
It's always shown that Ajak's healing power requires a conscious use, through her hands, and that they're not activated automatically. Can't conciously use your ability if you're unconscious or, let's say, your brain in sliced in half, like Kro's. We always see Kro direct the palm of his hand to his wounds in order to heal. Edit: So, I should've read the comments before because several people had already pointed this out.
Rocks Doug, they were smashing rocks
Real soft rocks
Wasn't Sersi shown a production line of her synthetic copies of herself? So, the Celestials wouldn't need to save this Ikaris from burning. All they would have to do is pull one of the replicas and give it memories. That's why I wasn't too worried over those three. That's my theory and I do hope they are brought back.
But you don’t want the memories to burn up or be damaged..
But you have to actually care about him
@@blackbunny3912 any man on earth with a job and a girl felt ikaris pain..
@@supablack 🤣🤣🤣🤣The i guess the vast majority of people is unemployed and single my dude , cause he was pretty trash
@@blackbunny3912 it just flew over your head. Just imagine being the best worker but not getting that promotion because of the supervisor and finding out your wife in love with someone else all because you didn’t want to hurt her.. and on top of that he went against god.. all over love.. it was some Adam and Eve shit.. and now we punished because of women and that love shit
Fun movie with mostly forgivable plotholes. Most serious plot problem is you just can't have a giant stone marble Celestial taking up a huge chunk of Earth's interior down to its core without massive problems for Earth: gravity upsets, destroyed iron core of Earth that creates the planet's protective electromagnetic field so we don't all fry to death from the sun's radiation... y'know, science stuff. Just that Celestial popping outta the ocean floor would've created massive tsunamis smashing every coastal city in the hemisphere. (Of course I get that they needed to show at least some of the Celestial for dramatic story-telling.) Equally big plot problem: If it only takes ONE populated planet to spawn a single Celestial who can then create an entire galaxy of new populated planets, and the only alternative is watching the universe slowly fade into death and darkness, then some rogue Eternals performing a Celestial-abortion are the biggest threat to the entire universe. Far greater than Thanos ever was or Kang could ever be. I ASSUME the writers have sketched out an improved plan for Celestial creation that doesn't involve mass genocide, and the Eternals' endgame will be to eventually shift Arishem's paradigm to that new method. Because otherwise, the Eternals are the GREATEST EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE ENTIRE MCU. By recruiting other Eternals to go rogue (which is where the Domo was headed at the end of the movie) and abort all new Celestial births, they'll literally doom the entire universe to extinction. (Apparently the currently existing Celestials are all outta new-galaxy-spinning juice.) Fair warning: MCU needs to tighten up their universe-building narrative QUICK before they write themselves into a blackhole of paradoxical plots. They're FIRST venture into time travel and multiverse-building is already showing major cracks in the foundations. For example: where are the Celestials in Loki's end-of-time scenario where He-Who-Remains is chilling? That dude is nothing compared to the Celestials. There's no way he outlived all of them to be the very last sentient being in existence. Speaking of which, now we've defined these genuine all-powerful creator/judge Gods as purely just farming humans for Celestial baby food. Joke's on anyone religious in the MCU who thought "God" gave a fuck. (Captain America makes a reference to a Judeo-Christian "God" in Avengers 1, and Star-Lord mentions Jesus in Infinity War.) In their reality, people are actually nothing but livestock. Thor is NOT defined as an actual god. They're very clear about that in the MCU. Asgardians are just another alien race who appeared to be gods to humans in medieval times because they were so advanced and long-lived. Celestials on the other hand... They created EVERYTHING. So they ARE the defined Gods of the MCU. Of course then you get into a chicken-egg paradox with Celestials and Planets and eventually have to introduce the One Above All as the Ultimate God of the MCU. Hope that whiteboard in the writer's room is crystal fuckin clear where they're going with all this, or else the entire MCU thread is gonna start unraveling pretty damn fast in the future. Once they cross the point of contradictory silliness beyond redemption, all their movies and TV shows will lose gravitas as meat for serious cultural discussion and most people will simply stop giving a fuck. Y'know... like exactly what happened to comic books.
I don't think you really get the scales involved. Even at the scale of Tiamut, it's like a grain of sand emerging from a beach ball. It's the birthing process which destroys the planet, not the physical emergence.
If you're not worried about the science behind Hulk's pants you shouldn't be worried about this either.
@@NoJusticeNoPeace that’s literally not true. We see in wide shots that Tiamat’s finger are above cloud level… that means just those are the equivalent of a small - medium sized mountain range… just appearing; that’s a ludicrous amount of energy just being released, there would have to be shockwaves created. Just a couple days ago a volcano on Tonga erupted and the shockwaves travelled half the world before dissipating, all the states on the pacific were out under tsunami watch. Tiamat’s head and finger alone emerging should have been a natural disaster.
It's fine
@@NoJusticeNoPeace when he actually feeds on the planet to take all it's energy and redistribute it , thats what destroys the planet
I think The Eternals really get the MCU ready for Galactus, not just us the viewers but the people inside the MCU (the heroes). I mean after seeing a big robot pop out of the ground and seeing one just floating out in space no one is going to be surprised when something like that is going to want to eat their planet.
But Galactus has no reason to show up on Earth now, the whole reason he "eats" planets is to prevent Celestials from being born, he is population control for the Celestials, as per the Earth X storyline, which is where the Celestial reproduction cycle comes from. Galactus devours all life on a planet to prevent Celestials from using it to grow more.
@@SA80TAGE and the MCU HAS never changed comic canon to fit there own narrative before…
@@neallong2480 you got a better idea how to handle Galactus?
@@SA80TAGE He eats planets because he's hungry, and it's what he does. It's not that hard. The Celestial thing was only one storyline out of many that involved Galactus.
@@daedalus25 right, because Marvel isn't known for updating characters motivations that have real purpose behind them... Its not like Thanos snapped half the Universe away just to impress a girl in the comics
I think people forget about travel time even on earth. The entire end sequence at the volcano takes place in about 15 real time minutes. So even if we assume this is before Spiderman Far From Home (they never really make it clear when exactly the movie takes place), the only hero who could realistically get to the Indian Ocean would have been Captain Marvel, but only if 1) she was on earth and 2) that if she knew that there was a huge fight between powered people at the time, 3) she was notified before the 15 minutes were up and 4) she new the exact location, and then she could have gotten there in time. There's just no way Bucky, Falcon/new Cap (if he even is New Cap at this time), Spider-man, Ant-man, etc. are getting there. Even Dr. Strange needs to know the exact location he is traveling if he teleports, which probably puts Wong and Strange on the sidelines too.
Absolutely, great point
Not to mention most these guys wouldn’t even stand a chance against the deviants or Ikaris
Dr Strange and Wong could easily show up there especially since the size of the celestial would have been broadcasted on every news station and social media platform. They would have easily seen and heard where the celestial was.
@@dj0rtega Dr Strange survived Dorrmamu so I’m sure he could survive against the deviants.
@@JBurnz001 the celestial was so large and was just out in space around the planet. There is countless locations Strange or someone could have tried to address that thing and never ran across the Eternals since the size of the celestial was larger than the planet
Ajak and Crow have to manually heal, they don't have a healing factor like Wolverine
*Kro
I know some folks say this should've been a Disney Plus series, but I loved it started as a movie to leave us with many questions that could be dwelved into in a series.
Thank you visuals would have been subpar
So Eternals did nothing against Dormammu, who was ready to transfer Earth + a Celestial in his Dark Dimension. They simply let a doctor (dr Strange) to deal with the problem, despite being immature with his powers. Simply because there were no Deviants involved.
I believe Dormammu is actually stronger than celestials, at least in his realm. Deviants are programmed organisms , that interfere with the natural process. They only get involved with A) their own mistakes B) their creations making "mistakes" , otherwise it is disturbing the natural cycle. Also if you plant a seed in a bad location , sometimes is better to not deal with it and plant elsewhere.
@@JRG333 possibly in his realm but not multiple celestials.
How would they have known that was happening?
@@ecm95 I mean he’s only 80 stories tall
How would they have known? They were scattered around the world( some in super rural areas.) The events and locations in story happen quicker and in areas such that the other MCU characters didn't even have time to react.
The green tablet would clearly be the ‘emerald tablet’ associated with Hermès in alchemical traditions. Has nothing to do with Marvel per se as it is an actual historical legend in real life, but I’d imagine it could possibly have been inserted into the comic books.
I thought they were created by Thoth
There is an overlap in gods assigned to the tradition as it ended up spanning several cultures. Basically the Greeks assumed the Egyptian god associated with the alchemical tradition was synonymous with their god Hermes.
@@halfvisual thanks didnt know that :)
Hermes is also Mercury (Makkari)
So glad someone else commented this, I was loving all of the real life legends that they placed the eternals into during the film. (A)Thena, Gilgamesh, Ikarus, (He)phaestus, I'm sure the rest have some aswell but I'm not clued up on the stories on their real world legendary counterparts.
The Emerald tablet(s) are a lost artifact that have been widely reported on throughout history. They are purported to be written by Thoth the Atlantean who also went by the name of Hermes who the Romans called Mercury which is (in the MCU,) a corruption of Makkari.
Wasn't it implied that Deviants evolve absorbing traits from species they hunt? In the alien planet flashback, a Deviant had the traiths of a local predator.
Quote from the movie: I think the Deviant that attacked us in London killed Ajak and absorbed her power. Deviants have never done that in the past.
@@jeffrey53sola The Eternals said that, because they never observed that trait before. Arishem however, told Sersi that the Eternals were created to correct a flaw in the Deviants. The Deviants changed overtime, becoming more like the predators they were originally created to destroy.
If they took the remaining eternals back to study their memories, it means the next time we see those eternals, they will not have their memories. This may prompt Black Knight to go to the world forge to rescue his love's memories and implant return them to her.
Memories can be copied.
In one of the flashbacks, Makkari states that she can sense vibrations, even those of peoples voices.... which is literally what "hearing" is. so if that's the case, why do Makkari and the other eternals pretend she is deaf, even among each other? they have literally no reason to use sign language
If she were able to hear then it would only be like buzzing noises
Preference, it is probably what she was comfortable with and preferred. Even for robots they all had very distinct personalities.
Because that scene litterally answers your question. You pointing out what exactly "hearing" is, is spot on. She *can* hear, she's not deaf she's mute. Simple as that ;). Also there is a shot of her screaming, where it's sounding like deaf/mute people who don't make sounds often, struggles to just make a noise.
Ryan, I always look for your ScreenCrush videos when I want to see all the easter eggs and connections in an MCU project. Your videos have lots of insight with very little hype!
I love when you close plotholes
You'll have to tell me when he actually manages it then... because literally none of these "answers" covers anything, they are guesses at best. And the last one didn't even make sense, the question was why some Eternals were taken and others not, answer given was that they were the ones on Earth at the time, but they were all on Earth at the time.
The whole they couldn’t interfere is weak excuse. So they are suppose to protect the planet because the energy is needed. What if Ultron had won and cause the world wide destruction?
@Villager Wow, yes, because a Celestial can’t track down the other Eternals on the ship of his making when Eros and his drunk troll can. Please, do go on.
@@BluishGnome lol beat me to it.
@@latin504 while I'm not defending the obvious plotholes, its conceivable that the Eternals just didn't know the level of threat posed by Ultron, there's certainly no way they could know his plan, or act in time to prevent his plan once activated.... The entire final battle in sokovia lasted maybe an hour at best. Makkari could make it in time to help, assuming she knew what was happening, but unlikely anyone else could make it in time, and Makkari wouldn't be able to do much on the ground when the city is in the clouds. Just saying, there IS a plausible explanation for why they didn't help against Ultron. But if you want to counter and tell me how the Eternals could possibly know about Sokovia and make it there in time to be useful, I'm all ears.
2:41 It wasn't really clear whether Sprite was able to keep her powers as a human, but I hope so bcos they were awesome tbh. If Sprite did retain her powers, I wonder how & when she'll appear next in the MCU (especially since she didn't leave Earth with Thena, Druig & Makkari, nor was she collected by Arisham along with Sersi, Kingo & Phastos).
young avengers maybe?
Yes she does retain her powers, meaning she can be one of few eternals to have kids like Thanos and Eros
Probably Blade
Dane is supposed to be in blade so I won't be surprised if sprite is in it to.
Sprite was lame
for them not doing anything about thanos, I feel like since thanos is technically an eternal, erishem didnt want to risk them interacting with him and learning their truth
I would also add that the Eternals team were inactive/separated when Thanos arrived, and even then he was only on Earth for a short time, so they had no knowledge of him/his actions until after the snap
I think the dead eternals regenerating at the world forge either mind wiped out with one of their old sets of memories makes Icarus’s actions make a lot more sense. If he thinks Ajak will just be regenerated he didn’t have to feel bad about killing her and his suicide is less weird if he expects to be regenerated.
I feel like it also has something to do with the fact that he betrayed his family and his creator. He couldn't face anyone of them.
My theory is that after studying the eternal’s memories the celestial‘s will find humanity not worthy of saving and thus send Galactus to devour earth. And so it enters the fantastic four.
Galactus has no quarrel with the celestials there technically enemies galactus is population control for celestials meaning if they were to cross path it wouldn't be friendly
@@amirp6604 can u reword it pls
@@trap784 My grammar makes complete sense ill state it again, Galactus has no quarrel with the celestials there technically enemies galactus is population control for celestials meaning if they were to cross path it wouldn't be friendly
Galactus is not a Celestial
Option 4: Eros and Thanos are brothers in the same way our Eternals consider themselves family. Eternals are designed to blend in with the home planet. Eros and Thanos were part of the Eternals group on Titan or a planet prior to Titan. Both Eros and Thanos are cursed with knowledge.
Some people have already pointed out that the green tablet Mekkari sought out is probably supposed to be the Emerald Tablet, which 1) has associations with the god Hermes/Mercury (who in the movie!verse lore were likely inspired by Mekkari herself) and 2) is supposed to contain the alchemical formula for the Philosopher's Stone, which creates an elixir for eternal life. BUT there's a third reason to include it imo: the Emerald Tablet is also supposed to contain the formula for transmuting other substances into gold. Tiamut appears to be gold (or golden, at least) and Sersi turns him to stone, the alchemical process happening in reverse there, so maybe it's just a funny little Easter egg. But maybe it's also a little plot seed that could somehow factor into the next Eternals movie (if there is one); like, now they might possibly have the formula to transmute Tiamut back to gold again.
lemme just pause this video first, and comment on the awesomeness of your background wall~ clearly 90's selections, and DVD? brings back memories~~ oh, local DVD rental stores, how I miss thee.
Funnily enough a comic that came out like 4 weeks ago explained on how Thanos and Star Fox where even born. So this is how it went down. A’Lars (Thanos father) left earth after his “father” Kronos pretty much became a god leaving the eternals with no leader and to avoid starting a war between his “brother” Zuras after they were having a disagreement over something and A’Lars wanting to do experiments with the eternals. A’Lars went to Titan and met a female eternal named Sui San (thanos mother), the only survivor on Titan after a moon Dragon killed every eternal there, then he asked her do she want to help him create life by procreation, she agreed but in order for them to create life A’Lars called upon Kronos to help them. So he gave them the Quantum Bands which allowed them to mate and thus creating Eros who they named after their love for each other, and Thanos who they named after their triumph over death. Also A’Lars was able to repopulate Titan by creating new eternals through genetic engineering. The only difference between these eternals and the regular eternals is that Titan eternals can breed, and that all of them are basically scientists because of A’Lars, and for the regular eternals well they’re just stronger due to their exposure to cosmic energy. And what makes Thanos and Star Fox’s special from other eternals is that they have no weird programming like the regular eternals so basically they have free will to do anything they want, they can also have kids, along side the fact they are just as strong as the regular eternals if not stronger. Also it was revealed that A’Lars is a special eternal due to him always being destined to always deviate from his programming and do his own thing no matter how many times you erase his memories. And I know you’re probably sick of reading at this point but I can see the mcu following this same exact storyline, I mean the quantum realm already exist and the Quantum bands get their energy from there. Also Thanos did say that Titan became overpopulated which led to its down fall, and the only way that could happen if the eternals there could breed.
Wait so to understand the fact that thanos is a robotic thing, we have to read a comic?
Nice. Thanks!
The mcu doesn’t always go by the comics so really we have to wait till the future movies show us the TRUTH
@@quinezleebos in this case they better have, cause ill never watch a marvel movie again if they kill him off
The more I let the film sit with me, the more I’ve grown to like it. I still think it was too much story for one film but still fun and excited to see how things change in the mcu.
I have the opposite reaction. The more I think about this movie, the more I question it. I don't like that they imply humans needed help making even simple farming tools. Does that mean they influenced Stark to make his tech, or the Wakandans to use vibranium? Just so many implications when you make such an involved story set in the past. The movie did look great, and it fleshed out a little bit of the cosmic stuff. I'm feeling like it's setting up Galactus. I totally understand people liking it, it just didn't work for me.
I didn't think it was anywhere close as bad as everyone is constantly saying it is. I think Disney simply made a mistake trying to pack all of the narratives they had in to one movie instead of turning it in to an eight episode Disney+ series. There had to be another reason why they couldn't, and didn't go that route but the movie overall was okay if you don't spend 6 hours of your day nitpicking things that don't actually matter like most marvel fans apparently love to do.
This was not only the worst marvel movie it was one of the worst movies Ive ever seen In My 44 years...
@@kosmok.3825 Sure buddy. I guess you never watched the first Deadpool movie, or Green Lantern, or Captain Marvel, or Antman and the Wasp, or Avengers: Age of Ultron. Shang-Chi? All of these movies, Marvel and not, have been questionable, outright bad, or as uninspired as Eternals. I think you might be suffering from selective memory loss.
@@Nimoodles oh I saw all those movies..and at least they partly entertained me. This pile of shit should never have been released
I like the idea of Phastos working on a super soldier serum, after all it was designed to work with only good people. I think this would something phastos would design with weird rules to it.
And it would make sense why he wasn’t given any credit for it since, well, he’s a black man and it was the 1940’s.
you really seem to know your stuff - subbed for when i get confused next time(and thats often)
My biggest peeve is Sersi turning that boulder into birds or butterflies or whatever after telling Dane it doesn’t work like that
The emerald tablets are the Emerald Tablets of Thoth/Tehuti from the Halls of Amenti that are supposedly under the Sphinx.
This is my first time watching, I enjoyed your breakdown very much. New sub👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The question and answer about whether Thanos was also a robot made me realize that the TVA probably knows about Eternals and that’s why they have the body scanning machine at the beginning of the captured variants’ entry point! Is that a deeper purpose of the TVA: to wrangle in “weary” Eternals?!
Doctor Strange should have seen the Celestials when he was going through the different scenarios in Infinity War
Why? they played no part in Infinity War or Endgame.... he was only looking at the outcomes of that one conflict, he wasn't looking through the entirety of the future.
It could be said that that's exactly why he let the snap happen
@@kari548 the snap makes no difference to the celestials, the universe would replenish populations in less than a hundred years (smarter people than me have done the math, and is based on population growth statistics of humans over time)... which is literally the blink of an eye to the Celestials. Even a thousand year delay on the emergence is the equivalent of your alarm clock being 1 minute slow. Nothing Thanos did was of any consequence to the celestials.
One of the main things I didn’t like was at how weak they felt, I know Disney/marvel likes to make their character’s power levels progress through the movies but these guys are supposed to be god level and Thor, captain marvel, and Wanda/strange would probably defeat them easily in my opinion.
I have to give it to for a long time comic reader. U are really good. Thanks so much. I have subscribed.
I was about to get excited when i remember Okoye's report of a random earthquake that they decided to ignore, it could be part of emergence but then the report was made during the Blip so an Emergence should be out of question. Hoping for more explanations in future movies as always~
Ya'll speaking of Tiamut like he was a "fetus". I'm pretty sure that Celestials come forth from the "emergence" fully formed and functional. They're not going "goo goo gah gah" and needing Pampers. It's basically a giant butterfly coming out of it's "cocoon" (the planet it's seed was planted in). 🙄😏😂😂😂
Yea. Wait. Didn't he like help them kill him? I thought he basically understood their plight and gave them more power for the connection.
@@rogerdalzell they mentioned that this connection with the emerging being is the reason they survived their previous planets, so we can assume that the sharing is done automatically. We can also assume that it was probably embedded by Arishem as a mean to protect his creation in order to recuperate their memories, as this seemed to be one of his constant priorities.
that was why I disliked the movie, he was a baby because he was never given a chance to live :(
The Green Tablet in the movie is one of the 13 Emerald tablets of THOTH. 13 indestructible tablets from over 50,000 years ago telling of our development and the secrets to immortality. They are real tablets, and I love how they incorporated them in the movie
Lmao your voice for your dog reminds of Rick from Big Mouth! 🤣😂🤣 Loved it!
Awesome answers!! Loved it!
A-Rose is an exception cause he's friggin Harry Styles.
To continue with that last question, the reason why sprite isn’t among the eternals arishem levitated out off the planet is cause she’s no longer an eternal so he no longer has any control over of her
Thank you I needed this info
Damn, this was a dope video. Glad you got recommended to me
Honestly loved this movie. All of the characters, actors, reveals/twists, action sequences and most importantly the genuine fear of not knowing which characters would survive made this addition to the MCU a welcomed one
Could the galaxy or place that Arishem is at be traveled to? Maybe by Captain Marvel…?
Mutants was hinted in Ironman 2, on the map showing where Namor is. Namor being the first Marvel mutant. It was also hinted in the deleted scene when Tony asked J.A.R.V.I.S for the Project E.X.O.D.U.S file. The first mutant mentioned was in the Black Widow film (jail scene (Bear)).
God Ryan is so good at this
They literally called the "green tablet" the Emerald Tablet. Something that exists in the real world. It has some interesting lore around it, but ultimately may or may not be relevant later.
I loved this movie and these videos are a great companion to them!
Okay. Not usually a big fan of the dog, but the 'What did they smash?' line got me. Lol stupid but funny. 4:57
Thanks Ryan!
“What did they smash?” legit made me laugh aloud. 😂
One is caught up playing the impassioned protagonist in one’s Subjective Narrative of Self.🎈
You sound like the kind of guy that knows we’re all literally the same person
what does this has to do with Eternals
About Arishem taking only Sersi, Phastos and Kingo, maybe he only took them and didn't bother hunting down the others because they were the ones that cared most about earthlings. They seemed to be the most invested in living the life of a human and having experiences with other humans. If he's looking going to judge humans based on what the Eternals saw and experienced, those three would have the most data. Since the point in time the team split, Thena was isolated because of her condition, Druig stayed in a small community in the Amazon rain forest and Makkari was a hermit hiding in the Domo. Also, Sprite being human may mean that Arishem can no longer download her memories into the World Forge so no point in taking her either. A (possible) plot hole that wasn't mentioned is why would an Eternal be made with a deficiency. I can accept that Hollywood is trying to be more inclusive so having a deaf actress in the cast would make sense but if the Eternals are sent to a planet to wipe out Deviants, why "make" one that can't hear? Even the scene where Makkari says she can feel vibrations isn't really enough of a sell. Everyone can feel vibrations; that's how we hear. We "feel" vibrations that travel through the air and into our ears. Plus, being particularly attune to vibrations could just be a skill of anyone of them. As far as in universe logic, it just doesn't make sense.
Great video 👍🏾
Druig is an amalgamation of Quezecatl and Thoth. The green tablet is the Emerald Tablet of Thoth, said to contain all the information there is about everything. Thats why Makari was stealing items. Not because she thought it would be cool steal a bunch of stuff, but because she wanted to learn EVERYTHING. It is said that the emerald tablets are only able to be read while in a certain state of mind. She is seen speed reading books and attempting to acquire knowledge. Why? I'm not sure but that was her ENTIRE identity. It seemed like she was a thief of rare goods, but she was a collector or rare knowledge. She was doing she job as an eternal and as what would be seen as Hermes the messenger God. Between her and Druig, mankind would be an infinitely better place.
I thought the MCU was leading to the snap and infinity war. It felt like the perfect end. I did not expect the story to keep expanding. It’s insane and pretty incredible how there’s more and more. How the hell do they write these. So clever! It feels like the MCU could literally go on for the next 100 years. Marvel cinematic century!
Considering the MCU takes stories from the comics. The stories for the movies are endless
@@tmac731 I was gonna say something similar. And now with the introduction of INFINITE UNIVERSES…. That means potentially infinite stories for movies and shows. Unless humanity is wiped from existence, Disney and Marvel are pretty much here forever. Even if they attempt any reboot or remake or even a simple recast, it’s just apart of the MCU’s multiverse and an infinite variety of variants. I’d wager that’s how they’ll eventually bring back Tchalla within this decade as a variant. Ofc the same could go for DC, but they’re not the juggernaut marvel is when it comes to the movies
There is decades worth of material to pull from
@@Nutterbutter123 that’s what I’m saying bro. The multiverse is here so just recast Tchalla that way as a variant. Yaya Abdul mateen(black manta actor) would be perfect
Isn't that magical? However everything ends eventually, so the next best question is when. I think if you look at the Golden Age of Comics and compare it to this golden age of cinematic comic book movies, they have achieved the biggest cinematic crossover ever , and have finalized the Infinity War saga. So it's somewhat correlating , but faster and it's more lucrative and widespread than comics ever could have been. I would say that after a couple years, the golden age will end and the silver age where it is still relatively good but not as new and crazy as the beginning. Considering that I predict we will have another 10-15 years of kick ass Marvel movies!
When it comes to the question about the rare deviant that absorbed the eternal powers, it was shared in the movie that the Deviants started to absorb/mimic the nature of the predators on the planet. So potentially, they always had the ability, they just never had the opportunity to absorb an eternal. Ajax being set up by Ikarus was their first kill of an eternal and thus their first opportunity to absorb an eternal which then modified the Deviant who absorbed her. They had already gained a pack mentality, so the eternal just boosted the one deviants mental prowess further. That is why it became more human like with each eternal it absorbed. Plus both the deviants and the eternal were created by the celestial. That knack of evolving from their kills pushed the deviants to be uncontrollable as the evolved past their original programming and then the eternal were brought in to correct that as they became the new predators of the humans they were supposed to pave the way for. The eternal were the corrective action to the first failed attempt to cultivate the planet.
The Emerald Tablet is associated with legends of alchemists and in particular with the creation of the Philosopher's Stone.
So why did the Eternals immediately accuse Kro of helping Icarus when he actually showed up with an assist? He punched the guy into the ground…was that an editing error? If I’m not mistaken, the Deviant first proposed resisting Arisham’s plan. Wouldn’t that make them temporarily aligned? What’s the point in absorbing the Eternals’ abilities if there would be no planet on which he could survive and use them? I’m at a loss as to how to make sense of Kro’s motive at this point..
Another unexplainable plot hole. I'm just upset that Marvel fan boys won't accept that there are genuine plot holes and poor scripting and they go to illogical lengths to defend writers' poor decisions.
If I'm not mistaken, the why are you helping Icarus is directed at Phastos when he shot at Kro when he lunged at Ikarus.. which makes sense since Ikarus is busy killing them and the deviant was actually helping them.
Maybe Kro thought by absorbing all their powers that would make him strong enough to kill the Celestial on his own?
@@ferryspeksnijder1972 You are correct. The other two dweebs on this post need to stop trying to make things bigger than they are.
Bro, all the other deviants are dead. It was only him left. That's why he showed up on the beach alone. He never actually said that he wanted to resist Arishem's plan though, he merely told the Eternals that they will pay for what they did to his species.
im trying to multi-task and can't stop watching this video.
this video contains basically all the answers to my list of unanswered questions. Thanks! IMO, still a bit disappointed Doctor Strange or Sam Wilson didn't come to help fight Ikaris or any connection to mutants.
5:01 beyond adorable
Druig's living with Memmonite like dressed people in the Amazon (partly deforested) forest makes sense if he is trying to escape war as their tenets forbid military service. And yet he employs them as a mind-controlled army. There are about 90-100 colonies of Memmonites in Bolivia, and more colonies in the Peru's Amazon forest and elsewhere in South America.
I interpreted that as being the Mayans and conquistadors that he forced to stop fighting. He took them into the forest and made them play nice.
Damn brother, i enjoyed this from start to finish!
My only question is how long were sersi and Ikaris actually together? She tells Dane 5000 years but the flashbacks don't show them actually getting together until like 4000 years after they arrived on earth.
I have another 2 more. 1) If the Eternals are these super advanced androids/robots, why is Mecari def? Seems to be there shouldn't be any defects in highly advanced androids. 2) And the explanation given makes no sense of why they didn't pitch in to fight Thanos, when their whole purpose was to cultivate humanity on Earth so that humans could serve basically as food for Tiamut.
Uhh they didn't know about Tiamut except Ikaris and Ajak before the movie remember?
1) we cannot question why the Celestials create Eternals that way in the World Forge. They know more than everyone. That's the whole point of Sprite asking why was she made to never grow old. Also Makkari is mute not deaf. 2) They are ordered not to interfere unless Deviants are attacking Earth. Earth needs to learn how to defend itself (from wars and diseases) so they can naturally have a higher population enough for the seed to grow. Thanos is a part of humanity learning.
It's so that she doesn't get affected by the Sonic boom she keeps making.
@@jhedjoardumago7691 Makkari is deaf-mute. Because she cannot hear (deaf) she is unable to develope speech (mute).
How do eternals die? We saw two die from the deviants but when Athena started fighting the other eternals, they were bleeding from the stabs and slices and said she almost killed them. Also, Sprite tries to kill Sersi in the final battle by stabbing her with a normal blade. So are they able to bleed and die like humans? If so, how do they not die to other things that would kill seemingly human like bodies like the g forces of being carried at incredible speed by Makkari or going into space without a suit? Also, if they are just a creation of the celestials like the deviants, do both deviants and eternals die the same way? How are the deviants dying to shotgun blasts and things falling on them and crushing them while the eternals survive much more lethal injuries but are injured by much less like a simple blade?
They die just as deviants die not one deviant was killed by a shotgun they were simply bothered as hulk with bullets and missles they can be killed with the right amount of power its just there cosmic force within them gives them a amazing withstand against lots of powerful forces
And eternals are stronger than deviants that's why there are so many deviants and few eternals to keep the population under control or possible extinction as they believed them to be before Ikarus found them frozen
I think of the eternals like Vision. Synthetic beings which are very high durable (can be thrown around etc.) But still have weaknesses, like vision got stabbed in infinity war and he was heavily injured for the entire film because it affected his inner workings like an androids would. So unless healed/fixed the eternals would be very vulnerable and possibly die.
My theory is that they are really durable (que the scenes where Sersi got knocked into a house by the Deviant and Druig surviving from Ikaris laser beam). We have to understand that Athena's weapon is made of cosmic energy, so it's not surprising that she can wound them but they can definitely regenerate and I think that they had mentioned it before in a scene about the cosmic energy in their bodies regenerating them. They can't regenerate quickly though, so it was up to ajak to heal them quickly if they were to suffer severe injuries I think. They aren't just like Deviants though, they were created not entirely the same but for the same purpose. Not one Deviant died by shotguns and things falling down on them btw. As for the blade, I'm assuming you are referring to Sprite's blade. We have to understand that that blade is her weapon. It's not your everyday regular blade by a human blacksmith. It's an Eternal's weapon. It easily allowed Sprite to penetrate the skin of a Deviant. I would assume that it is made by a special material.
The green tablet is the Emerald Tablets of Thoth. It is said that Thoth was self-created at the beginning of time and, as an ibis, lays the cosmic egg that holds all of creation
I like videos like this. Good job.
Is it just me or does Ryan look extra handsome this episode?
Right on👍
Are we suuuuuure that the Earth and all of us actually survived NKOTB?
0:11 I like the new framing
The events of Infinity War take place in less than a day. It was so quick.
8:52 resembles me of the scene in Death Stranding, where five figures (so called Extinction Entities) were floating above ground, seen from a distance
How did Sersi heal herself after turning Tiamut into stone? How was Ikaris and Sprite able to join the uni-mind at the end to help Sersi kill Tiamut if they didn't have the bracelet created by Phastos to do so?
Wasn't this explained in the film? Part of the emergence was a natural uni-mind with the emerging celestial. This is what allowed Sersi to tap in the celestials power and ultimately kill Tiamut, with some left over to make Sprite human. This would also allowed the eternals to survive a complete emergence.
4:48 What was the green tablet Makkari was after?? It was the Emerald Tablet . The tablet says "That which is above is from that which is below, and that which is below is from that which is above," "The Earth carried it in her belly, and the Wind nourished it in her belly, as Earth which shall become Fire.". Does it sound familiar?
never seen any other video but that dog is cuter than any dog in the world, I will subscribe
i legit just finished the movie and during the whole movie i was thinking “so why was ego even trying to take over if he himself is a celestial”
I finally watched this movie last night and it definitely doesn't deserve all the hate it got. It is not the worst Marvel movie at all but it certainly is different from every other one so far and that meant that it would have been hard for the casual fans to take a liking to. Many elements worked well though so I liked it alot.
Good video.
5:00 green tablet… referring to the mythical book of Thoth?
The Eternals Cosmic energy looks very similar to the Protection spell of Strange Supreme from WHAT IF?... 😅😅
Well sorcerers had to learn magic from somewhere
An amazing movie. It was a life-time experience. Thank you Marvel
The "green tablet" Makkari was after is the emerald tablet of Hermes. It's a reference to an occult/alchemical document that apparently is from the Demigod Hermes Triamagestus in our world. That saying as above so below is from this apparent tablet it was just a reference to something in our world that we could relate to. It's quite a famous document the actual tablet doesn't exist but lots of people have done interpretations/translations of it like Isaac Newton. check it out sometime it was a fun little Easter egg they put in the movie for us
You mentioned how everyone's out of commission except Thor and Valkyrie. The two of them are a force to be reckoned with.
Kingo's thought process makes me wonder if he was operating under the influence of religions of the area he was in. Staying away from war and things like that
Not exactly a plot hole but Phastos giving up on humanity felt waisted and unnecessary because it was resolved like 5 minutes after it was introduced and never really brought up again after they leave his house.
He gave up on helping humanity with technology. He married someone so he obviously didn't stop caring for them.
I think what he really means is he will never give humanity another of his 'toy' ever again but his attachment to human for past 7000 years not just gone just like that and he married to one and has a kid too OR He maybe giving up in humanity in general but he will do anything for his family and helping humanity in the way is just a bonus.
Most of nonsense like that happened in the film. Sprite was quickly forgiven after she stabs sersi. Phastos also said that Ikaris always underestimate Seris but it was never shown in the film.
@@showmeyourmoves8551 of course Sprite was forgiven. She's family and a perpetual child. Just as Icarus was forgiven by Ajak while he was murdering her. She saw it as her failure. It's much more difficult to hate someone you love. Especially if you understand and appreciate why they're doing what they're doing.
Ayyy I made it in finally! Now I'm forever preserved in KZhead servers. On a serious note, I think the inventor guy said that if they wear some bracelet, the powers *that help them regenerate (which is why they're always young)* will instead be stored, which can be used to create the uni-mind or something.
Except phastos created them right before they were taken by the judge and they don't age because they are programed not too
Some of these questions make me wonder if people pay attention during movies... 🤷🏻♂️ A good portion of these were answered on screen.
There's a celestial eliminating life in Guardians of The Galaxy with the power stone. Why would it do that if they need populations to nurture celestials?
Because Celestials also have the role of judging planets to see whether they're worthy. Since a Celestial foetus requires conscious beings to feed it, presumably they don't want to feed their babies sour milk. If a planet is judged unworthy, it's scoured clean of life to start all over again and maybe get it right the next time.
If a planet fails to nurture a seed then they judge the population. If they are judged poorly then the Celestials give em the good ol kaboom
@@NoJusticeNoPeace and I'm guessing EGO is one of those seeds that had its planet judged, destroyed, and then left drifting off in space as a seed. An isolated, celestial brain who doesn't know what to do next.
@@jhedjoardumago7691 Omgggggg yo this makes so much sense.
P.s. Not all planets are host planets. Only some.