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Ok, a couple of hints. Firstly, because a matter device can connect to multiple controllers, there are two codes. The matter code on the device connects to your FIRST controller, then to connect to a second controller you get the first controller to generate a new pairing code. Secondly, if you need to update an echo device without a screen, you can simply ask "Alexa, are you up to date?". This will force an update without waiting.
Thanks for jumping into the Matter pool and letting us watch! I'm looking forward to Matter maturing. As an Apple HomeKit person who wants my setup to be as simple and bug free as possible, I may want to hold off on buying smart home devices that are Matter ready but not native to HomeKit.
I can only imagine if you told Thomas Edison that someday we will need to reset firmware on a light bulb.
Its good to see... You working way through the issues. It helps me feel good about having to do the same thing! thanks!
This is all so confusing for the common person. Maybe this was not ready for prime time. Think I’ll wait for a few months or a year.
Do we need the 4th gen still? I have 3 echo dot and I can't make it work :(
Hi, Philips Hue has also released official matter update. Any video, Now what, coming ? I have high hopes for this update as regards multibridge (hue) and alexa max hue devices limitation (with only one hue bridge). Thx
Steve, you showed that the bulb was connected but never showed if Alexa could control it? Your experimentation with Matter is spot on as I’m guessing lots of us automakers are waiting to see how & if it works. I’d love to see if you get it going & then see how it integrates with SmartThings! Thanks for your continued efforts in getting this new protocol working!
Sorry about that Dan. I've been playing around with it today and trying to link it up with SmartThings. I'm now more confused than ever. haha
ring compatible smart locks allow you to arm and disarm the alarm while locking, but finger print locks are awesome too, wish they made one for ring.
Is the echo dot 4th gen the only one with the thread border router? there latest 5th gen doesn't even, have it? seems odd.
Thank you for your videos. Great job. But please tell me... where tf is your mic? What a great voice quality without a visible mic 👍
I don’t know if I this helps but with HomeKit, on your iPhone if you go to general there’s a section that say matters accessories.
Great video. This "Matter" stuff IS WHAT MATTERS... Subbed... I am somewhat new to this and learning as I go. Thx for bringing this info to youtube.
Spent nearly 2 hours trying to get a smart plug to connect to my girlfriend's 4th Gen Echo, that was initially set up on my SmartThings Station. Turns out, the Echo just needed the good ol' "have you tried turning it off and on again".... What a headache that was 🤦♂
Hi, i recently bought an echo show 15 2nd gen. Unfortunately, when i got nearly to the end of setup it downloaded an update, that rendered the device unusable. It wouldnt res, wouldnt do anything. Dispite saying in setup, the device was registered to me, it wasnt. I spent over 2 hours on the phone to amazon trying to return the device. And have the cost of it credited to my account.after 2 weeks i got the refund. I am in the uk. Just wundering uf you have heard of this issue. Thanks
Hello Steve, I can see where the confusion might lie with the strip, the bulb, and the Echo 4. First off, it’s important to understand that all Matter-compatible ecosystems need a Matter Controller, which is sort of like the ‘organiser’ for your Matter devices. The Echo 4 is a Matter Controller, as are almost all recent Echo devices now. Your Echo 4 also has a Thread Border Router built-in, which is only for Thread-based devices, like the Nanoleaf bulb, which is a Matter over Thread device. The Govee strip is a Matter over WiFi device, so whilst it needs to connect to a Matter controller to be told what to do, it doesn’t require the Thread border router, as it just connects to WiFi. I hope that makes sense. Finally, only devices that are Matter compatible will be part of the Matter environment you set up, so whilst they’ll all be in the same app working with Alexa, the legacy devices you have already set up, will not be part of that Matter ‘club’, and honestly may never be, with a few exceptions. If you have any Hue products, these will currently be working with your Alexa setup because your Hue account and Alexa are registered with each other. When Hue release the Matter update for your Hue Bridge (if you have one), you would then remove your hub and devices from Alexa, re-add the bridge as a Matter-compatible device, and from there, any devices connected to that bridge will be exposed to your Matter ecosystem. This also means that you no longer need your Hue account to be tied to Alexa, which is essentially cutting out that ‘cloud’ part we all want. Unfortunately, Alexa doesn’t support Matter Bridge devices just yet, but you get the idea!
did they announce they were gonna support Matter Bridge devices? I remember seeing that Samsung said they wouldn't, but I don't remember Amazon's stance here.
@@arthurnunesc I’m not sure if it was announced, but Amazon do now support bridges, as do Samsung SmartThings.
Thanks Steve....love it!
Thanks Jeffrey!
I’m also spending time like you. There is a bug in Alexa. It can only detect the first endpoint of a Matter device that has multiple endpoints. For example, if a wall-mounted switch contains three switches, Alexa only adds the first switch.
Matter still doesn’t matter! Thanks for the update. U rock 😅
Which version of the Echo did you get? Version 4 and 5 are supposed to be Matter devices.
This is the full Echo 4th gen. Not the Echo Dots.
Best to update devices first. With Nanoleaf bulbs that is currently done in the Nanoleaf app.
Is it an IOS issue or an Amazon issue? With this new setup does that mean you dont need separate apps to control all the features? You could voice command "Alexa, turn living room to music mode" and the lights would go to that mode? You could mix and match manufacturers as long as they are Matter enabled?
Keep in mind matter is just a standard so each company that makes an app or border router may or may not implement things differently. I know from watching others I think Eero showed more details about the thread network. Things like how the mesh network was connecting to each other, what was a border router vs leader vs router. I want to say it was on smart tech today, but I can't remember.
It may have been eve app
I think it's just a MATTER of time until they iron out the kinks but this is Amazon after all. I also think this is a slight user error. As a few have mentioned below, you scan the QR on the product instead of the paper. I also like to turn on the device I want paired a few seconds before I ask my assistent to start scanning for it.
So how do you know your echo is “ready” for matter?
Hi man, I think you r misunderstanding what matter is. Matter is a standard communication lenguaje for smart homes. What this means is that if something connects via matters it will work in all big smart home standards. HomeKit, Alexa, google etc. products that communicate via Matter can communicate with each other in different ways. Such as wifi, thread, etc. when you say if a product run in the cloud or locally it has nothing to do with wifi. I have multiple devices that use wifi as their way of communicating and as long as my wifi is on, even I my internet is down the products still works, the question there is if the product has a hub that tells it what to do locally or if I need to Connect for a server.
Matter is in the shortcut bar when you add a new device, just scroll to the right. 👍
Try scanning the code on the bulb and not the one on the paper. That worked for me.
Thanks for the tip. I'll try that next time.
If you don't mind, it don't MATTER !!! 😂😂😂
Wow....8 beers in ..and I still don't know ...thanks ...off to get more beer 🍺🍺🍺
haha Thanks Clive! Get a 6pk for me too.
matter isnt exactly user friendly that is for sure. Mine tend to disconnect some too. I am sure it will get better though.
No Matter logos on Amazon Echo page now...(58 minutes after this vid was posted)
Reallly?? Wow yea, i wonder if there was a hiccup with the roll out.
Amazon still refrains from supporting Matter bridges like Hue(beta) and Aqara's M2 hub.
Yeah, in fact Amazon still miss on a number of devices. Last I heard they only support lights, sockets and switches (I think) It seems to have come as a suprise to some companies that they needed to support bridges as a device and many are still playing catch-up on this (including Samsung, I think)
i'd recommend doing the usual zigbee light process: note the MAC address of each device and write a number on it with a sharpie. really helps debugging what is up. but as usual: nobody would "consumer grade" smart home tech provides any logs, debugging tools etc. I'm waiting for Home Assistant on a raspberry Pi to support threads+matter; no point suffering until then.
Nice! Matter 1.0 smart devices is the future 💯
Need Matter 2.0 to support video doorbells and cameras via local control so they work even when the cloud or internet is down and have low latency. This isn't ready for prime time and looks like you have to get all new devices, there won't be firmware updates for existing devices as promised, much like trying to add wifi 6e to a 6 router, not gonna happen you just have to get a new router. Local control will also allow for better privacy.
Yea, there are a lot of cool things that Matter is promising, but i don't see the need to seek it out yet.
What's Matter? ... nothing whats a Matter with you?
Actually you did you test matter with the Internet disconnected??? You can look at the device information in the 'home' app and it will say the connection is matter...at least on Google home....
Shame on you for not yet having at least one 4th gen Echo. What are you buying on Prime days?!
haha, i have plenty of Echo devices around the house. I figured having the Echo Show 10 meant that i didn't need to waste time with the giant Echo speaker.
Do you know how much they go on sale during prime days? They are 30% off right now. Is it worth the wait? :)
@@mandypdx A lot of them are 50% off on Prime Day and Black Friday!
regardless of the outcome, to manually update Echo devices ... you can talk it into a manual update ... "Alexa, check for updates"
Is it only available in America
Oh, good to know.
The Amazon app said 'connected via' right there at the top...
Hi Steve. I liked your video and I'm really interested in new technology and I'm trying to catch up with. Thank you for the info and I will be checking out your other videos. 👍
Wiz now supports Matter 1.0 👏👏
I usually even buy the product you're talking about but in this case I'm going to pass that's way too much work for me. Thanks for the video
Good thinking. It still needs work.
Really useful video 👍
"Matter will make everything easier"... 1 hour later, "i still cannot connect my lights to Alexa" 😂
As a developer, I can say Amazon has the worst developers and their UI/UX teams slap things together. This does keep their costs down. Now with as large as the Alexa echo system is, they really shouldn’t be using the lowest cost foreign labor for everything.
True
My printer says connected to my echo now. Just like randomly over night lol.
still waiting for motion sensors to be supported by google home. I'm hoping matter will allow this hopefully soon
Iam so confused so what exactly is matter
My Thread devices are connected to my Apple TV 4k2's Thread hub. Amazon sees them all just fine.
How are you linking Alexa to your Apple TV? Maybe that's what i'm missing.
This comment is about 4 months late, but you just say "Alexa, check for software updates" (or something similar) and the Echo will check.
You’re thinking about matter in the wrong way. It’s just going to allow for easier connection between your smart products no matter if your using Apple, Google or Amazon it with just work.
as a software developer can i warn that "just work" depends on some loose definitions of "just" and "work". we shall see
Amazon can enable matter but they can't auto update their devices. What's up with that?
Half baked it seems I’ll stay where I am
yes, there are a LOT of kinks to still iron out.
Technology shouldn’t be this hard to set up ffs
I prefer Google ecosystem 😊
Why? How will this improve my life?
amazing , so many words , no info . im going to to ahead and say ...bla
How many times is this guy going to say "Let's go ahead"! Honestly, it's the most annoying thing in the world!
That's what it's all about waste money, and use more plastic, a box in a bag shame on amazon
No offense, but you're confusing Thread and Matter. You would have a much easier time of it if you understood those things
Blabber blabber , no clue what you’re talking about.