2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT Mid Muffler Delete to 3 inch X pipe. Idle, WOT, Flybys, Revs
2020 ж. 19 Қыр.
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Enjoy. Please watch on your HiFi and not some crappy phone speaker!
Enjoy. Please watch on your HiFi and not some crappy phone speaker!
This video made me buy a 2021 SRT GC ..mama Mia
Hell yeah John. Congrats. We just turned 40k on this one. It still offers smiles per gallon that are so much fun.
@@MRBLACK947 thanks! Plan on doing this same mod ASAP
Sounds awesome! I love the SRT8 Grand Cherokees. Such a beast!
Hey Scruf, thanks for stopping by. This Jeep has been one of the most fun vehicles we've ever bought. I still grin ever time I get on the throttle. If you get bored some time check out the last couple videos of my Corvette. It's getting a little over the top.
Whatever mic is on this camera is amazing….I know that’s outside of the video purpose😂 but I watched this vid and heard it…now I’m gettin this same setup on my 16’ JGC SRT👍🏾
Mic is an Olympus ME-51 stereo Mic plugged into a gopro Hero 5 Black using a Mic Adapter. Mic is covered with a deadcat so there is no wind noise. Somedays I still wish it was a little louder but at the end of the day this is good.
Just bought ripp supercharger today. Im up in Arlington, wa. Ill upload video when installed.
Dude, that is going to be awesome! That is the Vortech based kit? It doesn't take much boost to make a 392 easily competitive with a hellcat.
Thank you for this video going next week to get this mod done.... cant wait.. cheers
You are welcome Kanu! We had test drove one with this mod but didn't buy that one. When we got this one it was torture driving it stock lol. Way way too quiet.
I was intially considering either to go with crosa or borla but they are very extreme and are expensive systems.. when I saw this mod and the way it sounds it was perfect... lol yea once you like something or hear something in a car and dont have it ...u want it even more
@@kanukalra2981 A lot of things for these SRTs seem to carry a Corvette Tax in the price department lol.
I have a 2017 with AFE cai, spacer and catback. It sounds amazing and yes you will get a performance boost. My best 0 to 60 is 3.9 after bolt ons.
That's good to know Benny. I was just reading about someone that dynoed with the air filter out and picking up a bunch of power. We installed a JLT intake last week. :)
@@MRBLACK947 Install a catch can if you haven't.
@@bennybolick1360 Done! my boy and I made a couple videos of those two projects.
@@MRBLACK947 Excellent. If your not chasing horsepower I would recommend the AFE silver bullet throttle body spacer. It's gives a veryyyy satisfying sound at low rpm. Just Crack your window and enjoy the sound. No one has ever made a video showcasing the spacer. Would be fresh content for ya.
@@bennybolick1360 I will definitely check that out Benny. Not much more horsepower to be had without going to a procharger haha.
So I got the exact same thing done to my 2016 JGC SRT it’s been a couple days now and I can say I’m very pleased with the result considering it only cost me 250$ It’s very quite at cruise with the slightest hint of drone I mean you have to have the radio off and be listening for it to hear but at throttle it comes alive it’s really fun to use the paddle shifters I was wondering if it was too quiet at first and I almost turned around to get the mufflers deleted as well remember I came from a 08 JGC SRT8 with dual Borla Atak mufflers and though it sounded very mean and got a lot of attention and thumbs up’s it was loud not sure I want to be that hooligan at the moment or anymore I say that to say this is more of a mature sound and though I haven’t had a chance to drive with the widows down yet living here in the Pacific Northwest I look forward to hearing it like that before I make any other changes. So thank you Mrblack for you videos and for your input and answering all the questions I had beforehand it was greatly appreciated. I’m very pleased with what I got 😃
Glad to hear it 503. We are in PNW as well. Pierce County unfortunately.
Hey 503 thanks for Sharing I want to do the same but so worried about drone …
I did this and installed cutouts after the X pipe dumped on each side before the resonators for on demand straight pipes
Every time I drive this thing anymore I'm itching for it to be a little bit louder. It's a shame that all the exhaust systems for these things carry a massive Corvette tax. Cutouts are definitely an option but for us I think I'd rather have a more refined sound all the time. Thanks for checking us out Tristan.
Awesome video thanks going to do the same
It's been my most favorite mod to a vehicle in a long time and the price was right! Good luck Andrew.
lmao that Jeep sounds wild lol ..I have to get one of my rides sounding good ... I have check on some more videos
I am glad I am able to keep your Saturday evening entertained!
@@MRBLACK947 I love this man I like to binge youtube watch and comment. thinking of a BIG project. doing some research getting inspired by you guys
Wonderful!
Thanks!
Sounds good in the earbuds. I was even using my crappy earbuds cuz the good ones are charging. (I use a lot of electricity for my earbuds at work). All those You Tube videos aren't gonna watch themselves, ya know?
I hear ya Mr Hornay. I don't give earbuds enough credit these days.
I’m going to copy this is what I want mine to sound like thanks for posting.
I think you will enjoy it 503. It's a nice compromise between hearing nothing and being obnoxiously loud lol. At first we wanted it even louder but I think after putting a couple thousand miles in it, it's best to leave well enough alone.
@@MRBLACK947 yes i think so too this is my 2nd JGC SRT i had a 08 with dual Borla Atak mufflers it was loud i liked it at the time but i think something a little less crazy for my 2016 JGC SRT is they way for me now. my only question is did you also remove the stock mufflers or did you leave them in place and just suitcase delete and add X pipe. my appointment is monday for this. agin thanks
@@503TD only suitcase delete. the rest is stock.
Thank you!
Oh sorry I was blabbing on and forgot to ask 1 more question. I noticed when I first got my Borla Atak exhaust done it started out high pitched and raspy but I would say after about 1,000 miles it got a really deep bassy sound i was wondering if you have noticed a change in sound since you’ve had it done?
No there's no real reason for it to change since it's just pipe. Usually when exhaust system tone changes it's from mufflers that have packing in them like Magnaflow or the such.
Sounds so good, been debating getting solo but don’t really want to spend 1200 on a catback at the moment. Where did you get your x-pipe from?
Yeah I don't know why Ricky but I swear exhausts for the SRTs carry a Corvette Tax on them to the point of ridiculous. The x-pipe was an off the shelf part they keep in stock at the shop that did the work for me. It's a standard x pipe no name brand.
I have a couple of questions, I been reading the comments..first off thanks for the video! I been thinking about doing this to my 2015 srt Jeep but really haven’t seen any really informational videos up until I saw yours. So my question is, I see you did the resonator delete, 3” piping with an X pipe and kept the rear mufflers but did you do anything about the exhaust flap things that are located after the resonator before the mufflers. I see people either remove them or just weld them open. Just wondering what you did with yours, I was also curious on if you have any obnoxious droning when cruising on the streets or freeway? Did Any check engine lights come on after this mod?
Christopher, this jeep has no flapper deals in the exhaust. Best I can tell they were done away with in 2014 so you should not have them either. There is absolutely nothing obnoxious about this mod other than the removal of the mid muffler does tend to accentuate the 4cyl mode exhaust noise but you have to take the good with the bad. There is the tiniest amount of drone when climbing hills at around 30-40mph and the trans stays in high gear but its not bad at all. These things are very heavily insulated and sound deadened. No check engine lights have appeared in 4k miles. Thanks for checking it out.
@@MRBLACK947 thanks for the info, definitely my next mad...
@@daduranman08 I don't think you'll regret it at all.
Hey there ! About to do this as well. Saw your comment below regarding drone...I actually like on a hill so up and downhill I almost daily , is the drone very loud in cabin when holding at high rpm or just minimal that can easily cover with music ? I have a rear delete but that's not enough, I want to go your setup, but don't want drone in general. Is the drone fairly close to stock or way louder?
Alex. I don't think it's that bad at all. My wife has never complained about it so that should say something right there. Now if you are going to leave the rear deleted and delete the mid muffler that is going to be very loud. I don't listen to music when I drive the SRT. That's how great it sounds.
@@MRBLACK947 great thank you ! I had a solo before , uphill when it holds at like 3000 rpm it's a disaster , so loud through the cabin, same with downhill when it engine breaks. Drone was annoying in auto mode , hear it eventide accelerating through auto. You'd say your setup is pretty close to stock incabin and drone level ? (To me stock drones in auto mode too when MDS kicks in lol) , I am very interested to go exact route as you , but I can't go much louder than stock in every aspect. Solo traumatized my mom 🙃😂
MAN that sounds amazing! I just got my 2018 jeep SRT and i want it to sound exactly like this. Im going to a shop for them to do it cause i dont mind paying for it. What should i exactly tell them to do to get the exact same sound as yours? appreciate your help!
Thank you The One and Only. My best recommendation is to pause the video where I show the xpipe assembly and do a screen capture. Print that out and take it with you to your favorite exhaust shop. :) Or just play the video for them on your phone when you go to get your estimate.
Love the sound great job !! Just tell me what is the drone like inside from 1-10 ten being highest, this will be my daily driving car and want any drone… please share
That's a good way to put it Anthony. I would say at it's very worst and only if you held it there maybe a 3. Probably closer to 2. Like I said in the video and other comments its only there under very certain conditions usually high load but high gear 35mph. Don't like it ease into the gas and it shifts to a lower gear and it's gone. I don't think it will do it in sport mode at all. This is technically my wifes daily driver all though she works from home mostly lol but that being said if it droned to any point of being obnoxious it would have been had to be fixed or I'd be dead lol.
@@MRBLACK947 well noted thanks very much I think I will proceed with mine and report back soonest
@@anthonyandrews4336 I would be shocked if you hated it. There are days where I wish it were a smidge louder but in my automotive world that would be a bad idea.
How’s the drone with this mod? Any? Looking to do this to my 2020 SRT, had the Magnaflow on my 15, it’s was a clean rumble with no drone, but like you stated, price is significantly more.
Overall I would say no. There is the tiniest amount of drone at 30 50 mph and just starting to climb a hill but it literally shifts gears right out of it to the point where you don't even notice it. This is my wifes primary daily driver and she would never tolerate drone so take that for what it's worth. There are days where I wish it were a little louder yet but in the end I just don't know if it's worth it.
Do you have 3inch piping from the x pipe back? I’m currently catless with fully custom 3inch system with an x pipe all the way back and no rear mufflers. Start ups sound amazing, but the cabin drone drone drives me nuts, especially on the highway arohnd 2200 rpm. I’m putting my cats back on and adding rear mufflers in hopes to quiet down the cabin drone to where I don’t have to yell talking with people.
Tailpipes or I should say everything AFTER the X pipe is stock. It is a goofy size tubing which IIRC is 2.75 inch. I'd really like to make ours a little louder but have refrained from doing so. Also I've always heard that drone can be a problem on these engines.
What brand of x pipe did you install? Wondering cause I want to do the same thing to my 2017 srt with fastman 88mm throttle body intake and mufflex delete… sounds wicked btw
It's nothing special Ryan. They buy them in bulk from the same place they get their tubing from. Thank you. Still loving this mod after a year and a half. There are days where I wouldn't mind it a little bit louder but the reality of it is it would probably be a bad idea. It's nice to be able to cruise long distances and be civilized lol.
Wicked! Thanks for the info! If you want it louder I would recommend and mufflex muffler delete…. That’s what I have and with the resonator still…. It does sound wicked…. I could only imagine how mine will sound soon enough! Cheers
Hows the fuel economy after installing x-pipe? Planning to do the same on my 2015 gc SRT. Btw, great work! Awesome sound!
Thank you. I would have to say no noticeable change in fuel economy. Definitely notice way bigger swings from winter to summer back to winter.
@@MRBLACK947 No worries. Thank you. :)
Nice sound. Is it too loud? does it drone? And did you remove the valve, the better-fly? Sorry a lot of questions.
This year does not have the valve in the exhaust. I think that stopped in 2015 but I'm not positive. Drone is very minimal and usually you have to be going uphill to make it happen. My wife has never complained about it so if that's the case it won't be a problem.
@@MRBLACK947 thank you for replay. I appreciate it.
Where’d you get that picture from @ 0:27-0:28 ??
Google Images
Awesome vid. Your still using the stock mufflers and tips right?
At this time yes. There are still days where I wish this thing was a tiny bit louder.
@@MRBLACK947 I have the Mufflex mufflers installed and love the tone it has now and I think this will be my next mod to make it a bit more louder and deeper thanks.
@@wunfstsrt7716 You're welcome wunfstgsr. Thanks for stopping by.
That sounds really good. The cabin noise was minimal. Nice fab work on the exhaust as well. I see this escalating. What’s next ?
Probably a nice cold/hot air intake for a little added noise. No expected gains in performance lol.
Hey buddy did you feel like you lost any torque doing the mid muffler delete ? I have a 13 srt and really want to do this as well.
No I don't think so. If it did it definitely wasn't measurable with a buttdyno.
@@MRBLACK947 I see people keep saying leave the stock rear mufflers in or get an axle back if you delete the mid . For back pressure reasons .
@@Tracklyfe_T Well I certainly wouldn't straight pipe it for sure if that's what you mean. It will just sound like a noisy farm truck at that point. You can replace the rear mufflers with a louder muffler if you so desire but you may induce drone so be careful if you go that route.
Did your shop use stainless parts or just regular steel?
Ryan it is alumanized steel. It if last 10 years for the dollars I'd be very happy. We shall see how long it lasts.
Got a 2018 top gun in sumner? I’m from maple valley I will defiantly give them a call!
Yup probably about a half hour away with no traffic. Still love this mod every day dima.
@SofaKingCool I'm guessing there's more to this story.
@SofaKingCool Not implying anything other than they TOP Gun are more than capable of doing the job. There has to have been another reason they didn't want to work with you. If you would share the reason why they didn't want to do the job that would tell me why I shouldn't go there anymore.
@SofaKingCool No worries Sofa. I think we had to wait about 7 days at the time for an appointment to get it done. He wanted to do it himself and not be in a hurry. Happy you found a good shop. There aren't many left.
Do you experience any drone?
Not anything that is annoying. There might be the tiniest bit when just starting to climb a hill but the 8 spd trans shifts out of it in a half a second to where you don't even notice. What I find more annoying than anything else is when it goes into 4 cylinder mode this sound is exaggerated into the cabin a bit. It just sounds stupid. even that I've grown to ignore. Overall I still give this setup a 9 out of 10. Some days I still wish it were just a little bit louder.
I bought a magnaflow X pipe and it doesn’t sound as good as yours, interesting!
Does it look the same? like exactly the same? There are about 5 different X pipe designs out there and they do in fact all sound different.
Where did u buy your x pipe exhaust ?
Top Gun Muffler Sumner Washington
What do I need to bring to the shop
Nothing if they know what they're doing. Any quality shop should have everything on hand to build what you want from the cats back.
Curious how much did you pay top gun? I might go their too
dima if I remember correctly it was 300 plus tax. He provided the tubing and the X.
@@MRBLACK947 thanks I appreciate it 😇
@@Shabdima You are quite welcome. I hope you enjoy it if you go this route.
That was fun. 80K for a Jeep. I find myself somewhat aghast. Sweet sound though.
If that quakes your boots they make one more even MORE expensive. 95-100k. It's called an SRT Trackhawk Grand Cherokee. It has the supercharged Hellcat engine in it. That's what momma originally wanted. I'm like, uh hell no. Thanks for checking it out Art.
@@MRBLACK947 OMG, you could buy an airplane for that. Could I get one in baby blue?
@@ArtTiller I'd have to say you just really put that into perspective lol.
Is this California smog legal
I can't say for certain as I don't live there but I don't see why it wouldn't be. You are not removing any smog devices or doing anything that would trip a CEL.
The Rear Mufflers are deleted as well?
Negative MoparFam, only the mid muffler. Rest is stock.
@@MRBLACK947 Gotcha, thanks!
Did you keep the mufflers installed? Why x-pipe rather than straight pipe?
The rear mufflers? yes they are still there. It would be stupid loud with no mufflers at all. The x pipe makes the sound much cleaner. I have driven JGC SRT with straight pipes and while it still sounds good it has just a smidge more of a farm truck sound. The x pipe cleans that up. Also have some form of a cross over in the system is generally more efficient than a true duals type of setup. Would I hate it if it had straight pipes? absolutely not.
@@MRBLACK947Thanks for replying. I drive a 2014 Range Rover Sport, 510 horsepower. I got rid of the resonators and still have mufflers. I like the sound, but I've been thinking about putting in an x-pipe and getting rid of the mufflers but I have no idea what it will sound like in a Rover. I've only seen videos of SRT / Trackhawk with x-pipe and no mufflers. I've also seen h-pipes, but can't find any good information on the difference between x and h.
@@carycoller3140 I have a feeling if you removed both the resonators and mufflers it will be louder than you may think. I don't have a problem with loud but in my case I still want to be comfortable inside especially stuck in the traffic hell we have around here.
@@MRBLACK947 I saw a video just before I saw yours. In that video the guy had a stock Jeep SRT exhaust. He got rid of his mufflers and resonators and put in an x-pipe. It had a decent mello tone and only got crazy loud when he got on it hard. But again, that was on a Jeep, not a Rover. I can't make a true comparison since the two engines are so different. I'll find the link to the video and link it.
kzhead.info/sun/dpydZaudhZOCda8/bejne.html This is the one. He really talks too much. Fast forward close to the end and adjust accordingly. He put in an x-pipe and removed resonators and mufflers in his SRT8.
Any power loss?
Highly unlikely. I have no way to measure other than butt dyno.
Just did it , here's my review, it'll be louder slightly overall , much louder outside than inside. However in auto and eco , it Is kinda annoying annoying MDS. it will drone a bit when you cruise at low speed then tap on the gas , right when it goes through 1k to 1.4k rpm it got a bit of a disgusting drone and vibration. Just throw it in sport mode all the time.
I think this is a pretty spot on review. I will say that once you stop focusing on the negatives and just get in and drive the way you normally would you won't really notice it. I think I've put ours in sport a whopping two times since we've owned it. Get out there and hammer on it. That's what it's made for. :)
Any drone??
Very little at low rpms in a tall gear from 30-40mph going up slight up hills. these things are so heavily sound deadened and insulated that it is not a bother at all. Listening to the 4cyl mode is more dumb than any small drone there might be.
@@MRBLACK947 Awesome! sounds absolutely amazing brother
@@skoluh Thank skoluh. It's a great compromise between stock and being so loud it takes the fun out of it on a daily driver.
@@MRBLACK947 I finally got me A JEEP SRT at end of April wanted one forever! Been doing mods ! as well I just got mine done with MID Muffler delete & X PIPE On Tuesday ! I LOVE LOVE IT! NO DRONE!!! and not too crazy loud but sounds mean at high RPMS Thanks for posting you are the one that got me convinced to give it a try LOVING IT!!! next is my AFE CAI!!! I just posted my first Video n this
@@gjamin7 Congrats Gee Z. Still loving this Jeep and the exhaust here as well.
Can't hear anything over the trees. -Chuck
Say what?
@@MRBLACK947 Just kidding. lol The sound kind of reminds me of an AMG Mercedes. Like the kind Jeremy Clarkson would rave about on Top Gear. I'm probably wrong about that though.
@@PanzerPlatform It has a Euro note on the shifts for sure.